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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3175 on: June 20, 2017, 07:21:47 PM »
That doesn't necessarily mean that they are Italians. The Landsknechts were primarily German mercenaries who fought in conflicts all over western Europe. The Italian Wars were a series of conflicts over the course of several decades and almost all of the Western-European powers were involved in some way or another.

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« Reply #3176 on: June 20, 2017, 07:24:11 PM »
I bow to your knowledge.
I admitted  elsewhere I was somewhat ignorant of this era.

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« Reply #3177 on: June 20, 2017, 07:28:36 PM »
Indeed. The Landsknechte were competitors to and often mortal enemies of the Swiss mercenaries (Reisläufer).
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« Reply #3178 on: June 22, 2017, 07:04:00 PM »
The Italian Wars were Italian primarily in the sense that Italy was the theatre and the prize fought over. The main contestants were the House of Habsburg and the House of Valois, and the main prize was the Kingdom of Naples. Actual Italian states played a secondary role, engaging in their usual games of thrones in the shadow of the clash between these two royal dynasties.

While pretty much all European states started raising similar kinds of pike and shot armies at some point during the Renaissance, Landsknechts refers specifically to the German kind, wearing the extravagant puff and slash style we know from the Warhammer Empire. They and their Swiss equivalent were indeed mortal enemies, with the Landsknechts having originally been chartered by Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian von Habsburg as a specific counter to Swiss pike, in an (unsuccessful) attempt to put an end to Swiss independence. During the Italian Wars, Swiss pikemen were often in French employ, and thus repeatedly ended up clashing with Landsknechts in battle. Pushes of pike between Swiss and Landsknechts became particularly infamous for being bloody in the extreme, with a combination of exceptional discipline and sheer hatred negating the inhibition against marching straight into a spiky pointy formation of doom, making them instead go full ham at each other.
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« Reply #3179 on: June 23, 2017, 10:29:08 AM »
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3180 on: June 23, 2017, 05:44:38 PM »
Now the back of the box.



Not sure if you can read the text, but it does say that:
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"The figures in this boxed set can be used to represent the Landsknechts raised in Gerany or the Tyrol as well as early Swiss pike regiments"
 

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Plastic components to make either 30 pikemen, or 24 pikemen and 5 arquebusiers.

Command Sprue with options for officers, standar bearers , drummers, etc.,

Background guide with 5 colour flags 

Not sure about the maths of 24+5 but we'll see.

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« Reply #3181 on: June 23, 2017, 08:41:04 PM »
Finally!

I will be getting a box for sure.  :happy:

Any speculations about the price? I've never ordered anything from Warlord games so I have no idea about that.
I've seen prices around 20$, but I don't think those were multipart kits.
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« Reply #3182 on: June 24, 2017, 02:35:54 PM »
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« Reply #3183 on: June 28, 2017, 01:35:55 AM »
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Plastic components to make either 30 pikemen, or 24 pikemen and 5 arquebusiers.

Command Sprue with options for officers, standar bearers , drummers, etc.,

Background guide with 5 colour flags 

Not sure about the maths of 24+5 but we'll see.
Hmmm ... obviously 30 does not equal 24 + 5. :icon_lol:
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« Reply #3184 on: June 29, 2017, 08:35:52 PM »
Maybe one of the pikemen is made from 5 arquebuses, cunningly assembled a la Voltron.
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« Reply #3185 on: June 29, 2017, 08:52:23 PM »
Sounds like a conversion that needs to happen...

Alternately, one of the pikemen simply is an arquibus who is needed for one of the five firing arquibusiers.

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« Reply #3186 on: June 30, 2017, 08:22:57 AM »
Sounds like a conversion that needs to happen...

Alternately, one of the pikemen simply is an arquibus who is needed for one of the five firing arquibusiers.

Surely that still leaves you with a spare body, that supposedly you cannot make a pikeman or a arquebusier out of yet you can make 30 pikemen.

I am guessing the 24 is a misprint  :biggriin:
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« Reply #3187 on: June 30, 2017, 05:15:11 PM »
No, no... I'm almost certain one of the pikemen can replace his pike with the body of one of his comrades and fire him like a gun.

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« Reply #3188 on: June 30, 2017, 11:26:09 PM »
Really, Michael outdid himself with this set and I am truely happy to see this happening.

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3189 on: July 04, 2017, 03:50:46 PM »
Do we have a confirmed released date for the ProGloriaWarlordPuffySlashDudes?

Because . . .


I asked on the warlord game forum few month ago to know where were these landsknechts. I had an answer one month ago :

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I spoke to John Stallard on this a couple of months ago. At that time he told me that they'd just gone in for moulding. The plan was to have a sprue with 10 bodies on it. These could all be made up as pike or (I *think*) up to 2 could be made as arquebus/handgunners. At the time I had that conversation I was told that they expected to be able to release them in about 5-6 months.

I hope they have shortened the release date.  :-D

That quote (I found the original) is from April 24th. "A couple of months ago" should place the conversation with John in late February. Six months from then would be late August.

Anyone have any more information on it?
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3191 on: July 07, 2017, 10:25:25 AM »
Those are nice!
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« Reply #3192 on: July 07, 2017, 11:29:15 AM »
Forgetting the plastics for a minute,  MAX, GOTZ and GEORGE :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: and  some new officers :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:.
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« Reply #3193 on: July 07, 2017, 01:21:27 PM »
Those are nice!

They are the Pro-Gloria ones from the Kickstarter many moons ago - I agree, they are very nice. I do not need more Empire infantry, but I will admit to being tempted :)
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« Reply #3194 on: July 07, 2017, 02:20:37 PM »
I agree, they are very nice. I do not need more Empire infantry, but I will admit to being tempted :)

Same here. I'm sure I will pick up at least one box.

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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3195 on: July 07, 2017, 06:03:48 PM »
About time! Edit: Just ordered a set.
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« Reply #3196 on: July 07, 2017, 09:03:14 PM »
a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!
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« Reply #3197 on: July 08, 2017, 07:52:28 AM »
I do not need more Empire infantry, but I will admit to being tempted :)

We always need more Empire infanry!  :biggriin:

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« Reply #3198 on: July 08, 2017, 07:52:44 AM »
Error. Please supr!
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Re: Other Manufacturers
« Reply #3199 on: July 08, 2017, 01:15:08 PM »
a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!

Yes, please!

Sadly, they apparently got rid of some head, body and arm variants that were originally planned:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/plastic-landsknecht-box#/
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