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AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« on: October 29, 2016, 03:51:13 PM »
I'm a bit disappointed that GW got rid of our knights and that there is no captasus profile in the empire army.
 
Have you guys heard anything on whether or not they might return?

Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2016, 05:32:44 PM »
Indeed you are right arselus, it is a sincere pity that Games Workshop saw fit to rid the Freeguilds and The Empire of its gallant Knightly Orders and valorous Captains miniatures.

I canít say that Iíve caught wind of any rumour of their return to either the online or any bricks and mortar stores, so all I can advise is to either get creative and convert some from the kit available or shop about on ebay.

Either way if you hear any different please be sure let us all know, as the armies of Man are somewhat bleaker with their absence.  :unsure:

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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2016, 06:44:55 PM »
no news yet.. still waiting on a battletome for freeguild myself, hopefully with a few new things, but not even a rumor that it is on the horizon anytime soon
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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 11:41:39 AM »
Despite owning many, many of those plastic knights for my Empire armies, I'm not a fan of the kits, compared to the old metals.  But mainly because the horse miniature was as old as Altdorf itself.

It's a shame at the moment, the Freeguild's cavalry option is limited to Demigryphs, unless it's a General.  But hopefully down the line, this means we will get new, decent looking knightly orders again.   

There's nothing in the rumour mills regarding humans, rumours are pretty thin on the ground for AoS in general.  Tzeentch Arcanites looks likely to be soon, as well as plenty of rumours for Steamhead Duardin.   Everything else is probably speculation based on snippets of info here and there in the campaign books.

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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 06:17:03 AM »
how did they get rid of them? I thought the old warscrolls never go away?
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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 08:07:39 AM »
how did they get rid of them? I thought the old warscrolls never go away?

That's true, but if you take it from the new perspective only then they are sort of not viable in the new context
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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 02:25:12 PM »
how did they get rid of them? I thought the old warscrolls never go away?

The old warscrolls aren't going away, but the models are, and that probably means they no longer have knights in the fluff.   There's been nothing in the rumour pipeline regarding the Free Peoples any time soon

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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 10:14:52 PM »
how did they get rid of them? I thought the old warscrolls never go away?

The old warscrolls aren't going away, but the models are, and that probably means they no longer have knights in the fluff.   There's been nothing in the rumour pipeline regarding the Free Peoples any time soon

...people actually like the fluff? Its the Emperor unifying earth before the Great Crusade in 40k but told in a mythology of the gods kinda way. ...I never figured people would be into that.
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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 10:48:05 PM »
I am reading the fluff, and I don't see it as a Great Crusade at all.  I think that's a common criticism I've seen from people who've skimmed it, or read someone else's opinion, rather than followed the Realmgate Wars, which is is it's often incorrectly called 4k.

I think a valid criticism though is that's it lacking depth at the moment, it's very focussed on battles, and not on what the realms are like to be in.

Fortunately, Josh Reynolds says that this is being addressed in some of his forthcoming AoS novels

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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 10:58:50 PM »
I think it is already adressed in the current novels and I haven't read a lot of them yet!

Should surely get your hands on Gates of Azyr now that it's free this week in Black Library (digital one)
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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2016, 11:38:28 PM »
Get it because it's free, but it's the weakest book of AoS. IMHO.   I'm up to book 6 in the RGW, and I like the Hallowed Knights story arc, so that's the Stormhost I've gone for.

There have been mentions of scattered bands of humans, but barely savages,
There hasn't been much mention of what it's like to live in cities, to be rich or poor, what it's like to grow food, festivals, a days work, have families, what a pub in Azyrheim is like.

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Re: AoS: Our Knights and Captains!?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2016, 05:23:11 AM »
I am reading the fluff, and I don't see it as a Great Crusade at all.  I think that's a common criticism I've seen from people who've skimmed it, or read someone else's opinion, rather than followed the Realmgate Wars, which is is it's often incorrectly called 4k.

I think a valid criticism though is that's it lacking depth at the moment, it's very focussed on battles, and not on what the realms are like to be in.

Fortunately, Josh Reynolds says that this is being addressed in some of his forthcoming AoS novels

Well the great crusade happens after the events in Age of Sigmar.
Age of Sigmar is what happens on Earth while it is engulfed in a warp storm. The 40k fluff is fairly short and vague on this. Just that Earth was cut off because of a warp storm surrounding it. The Emperor unified the planet with his ThunderWarriors. And Mars sent out adeptus mechanicus forge world colonies(or something? its been a while since I read that).

I don't mind that they wrote it in the high fantasy style. ....I mean there is only so much scifi you can handle. And if they wrote it in the sci-fi genre it would probably just be alot like the Horus heresy books.
And its basically a demon world engulfed in the warp. Which could be difficult or boring to describe using sci fi. Just easier to use the fantasy trope.


I actually became much more interested in the AoS story after I found out it was the Emperor unifying Terra.
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