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Re: 40K
« Reply #1375 on: July 22, 2011, 06:00:28 PM »
The basing is really easy.

I put some clay on some of the bases to add a bit of uneven ground.
Then tix 2 grades of grit I bought from a hobby store.

Paint scorched brown, drybrush calthan brown, drybrush bleached bone.
Then PVA glue a bit of static grass on. Mine is all green, but would probsbly be better with some different shades.
Then PVA glue little clubs of the moss/bush stuff which Fr1day sent me, but you can by from hobby stores.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1376 on: July 22, 2011, 06:04:55 PM »
That does sound an awful lot Finlay.  Mine takes long enough using just pva, brown paint and flock!

If you are interested in advice for list building guard, I can point you towards a site I use for 40k advice if you want?  That is if I am allowed to link other sites!
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1377 on: July 22, 2011, 06:18:27 PM »
Not really, just painting some grit and gluing some flock on! MY orc and goblin bases take a lot longer.


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Re: 40K
« Reply #1378 on: July 22, 2011, 09:09:03 PM »
What is IGMB?

I use 3++ is the new black, it has indepth looks at a lot of different armies
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« Reply #1379 on: July 22, 2011, 09:16:17 PM »
Can "3+++ is the new black" be translated for us non savvy internet browsers?
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1380 on: July 22, 2011, 10:16:29 PM »
Might as well post my only painted 40k here. Should be the starting point for whenever I collect another army.


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Re: 40K
« Reply #1381 on: July 22, 2011, 10:41:37 PM »
The basing is really easy.

I put some clay on some of the bases to add a bit of uneven ground.
Then tix 2 grades of grit I bought from a hobby store.

Paint scorched brown, drybrush calthan brown, drybrush bleached bone.
Then PVA glue a bit of static grass on. Mine is all green, but would probsbly be better with some different shades.
Then PVA glue little clubs of the moss/bush stuff which Fr1day sent me, but you can by from hobby stores.
Sent you a pm inquiring about this, and thanks for sharing this! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1382 on: July 22, 2011, 10:47:03 PM »
The basing is really easy.

I put some clay on some of the bases to add a bit of uneven ground.
Then tix 2 grades of grit I bought from a hobby store.

Paint scorched brown, drybrush calthan brown, drybrush bleached bone.
Then PVA glue a bit of static grass on. Mine is all green, but would probsbly be better with some different shades.
Then PVA glue little clubs of the moss/bush stuff which Fr1day sent me, but you can by from hobby stores.
Sent you a pm inquiring about this, and thanks for sharing this! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
That's why I typed it out. Happy to help!  :happy:
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1383 on: July 23, 2011, 12:52:11 AM »
Nice termies Mike-Mike!
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« Reply #1384 on: July 23, 2011, 10:16:05 AM »
Yea not a problem,

http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/p/codex-reviews.html

This has quite a few indepth looks at the different 40k codex books.  I really enjoy the site, and they talk a lot of sense.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1385 on: July 23, 2011, 10:41:58 AM »
Since Finlay is putting up lots of guardsmen, I thought I would put some close ups of my guard armour.  Hope you like them.











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Re: 40K
« Reply #1386 on: July 23, 2011, 11:27:05 AM »
Hope you like them.

They look amazing! Send them all to me!

How do you paint them?

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« Reply #1387 on: July 23, 2011, 11:36:21 AM »
Hope you like them.

They look amazing! Send them all to me!

How do you paint them?

With a brush!

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Re: 40K
« Reply #1388 on: July 23, 2011, 11:43:49 AM »
Painting was easy,  I managed to paint all 6 Russ tanks in one day using this simple method.

I used Army Painter Uniform Grey as undercoat, as per all of my guard models.  This was done a day or so in advance, so maybe me claiming they were all painted in one day is a bit of a stretch!

I then painted the Blue bits, Fenris Grey [as this is the same colour I use for my guard models armour plates/helmets].
The guns were painted Orkhide Shade and Boltgun Metal
The tracks and exhausts were painted Tin Bitz
The yellow is Iyanden Darksun
Then I drown the model in as much Devlan Mud as I can get on it, this does all my shading. highlighting etc, and it obviously collects towards the bottom of the model, giving me a kind of weathering/dirt and grime effect.

So far my Guard army has used 4 full pots of Devlan Mud.  It isn't working out an especially cheap painting method!  I think for future armies, I will be using an alternative shading method, perhaps an Army Painter Quickshade, which seems considerably cheaper than GW.
Finally, apply the transfers, then use matt varnish to ensure the transfers dont keep coming off.

Some of the models have other steps, primarily if they have plasma weapons, but it is a straight forward process.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1389 on: July 23, 2011, 12:03:57 PM »
Well, they look great! Thanks for the info on how you did them.

I still don't want to paint tanks though.
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« Reply #1390 on: July 23, 2011, 12:09:51 PM »
Oh my god armour!

awesome.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1391 on: July 23, 2011, 12:15:36 PM »
Just for you Finlay, I thought I would post up most of my painted guard foot units too  :)  I have included two different perspectives and one using flash that I am not too sure about!

You can see there I have a massive PCS, three CCS, two vet squads, one stormtrooper unit, one penal legion [catachans] and four infantry platoon squads.  Still to paint I have another one or two infantry units, four heavy weapons squads, psyker battle squad, ratlings and rough riders.  Oh yeah, and a bunch of "options"



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Re: 40K
« Reply #1392 on: July 23, 2011, 12:36:48 PM »
Just to make this easier for people to identify my units, I have split them up into seperate photos.
First photo are my platoon squads.
Second Photo has my two veteren squads at the front, penal legion and stormtroopers at the back.
Third and fourth photos are my various command squads.






Hope you all like these   :-D
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1393 on: July 23, 2011, 02:01:13 PM »
The armor is smashing! :icon_biggrin: :eusa_clap:

Appreciated seeing how those were painted, thank you. :icon_cool:

Enjoyed seeing the distribution of all that infantry, too. :::cheers:::
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« Reply #1394 on: July 23, 2011, 03:36:37 PM »
Nice models Crimson!


I'm having trouble with the grey knights army list. I can't get enough stuff into an army because things cost too many points.

How does this 1500 point list look?

HQ      Cortez                  100
                                                
elite      10 purifiers      incinerator            283
            psycannon            
            4 halberds            
            hammer            
            psybolts            
      rhino                  40
                        
      10 purifiers      incinerator            283
            psycannon            
            4 halberds            
            hammer            
            psybolts            
      rhino                  40
                                                                        
      vindicare assassin                  145
                                                
troops      10 henchmen      3 plasma guns            131
            6 hot shot lasguns            
            jokaero            
                        
      10 henchmen      3 melta guns            105
            7 hot shot lasguns            
                        
      10 henchmen      3 melta guns            105
            7 hot shot lasguns            
                        
      chimera                  55
                                                
      10 henchmen      5 death cult assassins            150
            5 crusaders            
                        
      chimera                  55
                                                
                     total = 1492



Is this rubbish? Where do I put Cortez? Should the transports go with different units? Should I have more meltaguns? Does the death cult/ crusader unit need the chimera, or can they just run at the enemy? How does anyone make a decently-sized army using this book?

I may as well use two units of purifiers, since strike squads cost almost as much but aren't nearly as good.

I had to lose my second inquisitor, because he just seems like a waste of points. Also demonblades are weak.
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« Reply #1395 on: July 23, 2011, 03:58:50 PM »
I don't have the book so take it with a huge pinch of salt

are vindicare assasins worth 145 points?
That's almost a chimera melta henchmen squad.
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« Reply #1396 on: July 23, 2011, 04:12:25 PM »
The vindicare is pretty much the most awesome long range anti tank unit in the grey knights book.   4d6 armour pen, at ap1 means it only takes a slightly better than average roll, [15 rather than 14] to pen, and that gives a 50% chance of destroying said tank.  Hits on a 2 as well.

I don't have a copy of the grey knights book on me at this moment, but the list is a bit confusing to me.  Purifiers? Are they the unit with the shoot through walls psychic power?

I would save points and not get hotshot lasguns.  You would be better having 5 decent guns [plasma or melta ideally] per henchman squad which can shoot out the hatch, and if you really want to include others, give them very basic gear, or alternatively take 5 crusaders/henchmen with carpace armour to throw spare wounds on.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1397 on: July 23, 2011, 05:13:39 PM »
Fair enough, sounds pretty scary to Guard! and long range AT needed for grey knights.

Tallarn test models.





They had blue on them already, and I quite liked it. But not convinced. Perhaps I should do it Green like the Cadian's tracksuits?
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« Reply #1398 on: July 23, 2011, 06:00:45 PM »
I am not sure either Finlay.  I like how the blue is done, but it just doesnt look right to me.  I cant put my finger on the reason for it though!  I am not sure green will look better than the blue either, the blue stands out quite nicely.

What I normally do is google and search CMON for colour schemes.  See what I can steal off vastly more talented painters than myself.   :-D
Alternatively, and IMO equally valid, is to look at historical warriors who fought with similar get up, and copy their paint scheme.  I would guess the turbans [or whatever they are called] would most likely be an off white colour in RL.

Yea the vindicare is a beast.  Not especially scary for guard, one leman russ tank shell and a failed dodge and thats your tank paid off.  In the last game I saw the vindicare take out a land raider in a single hit from around 35 inches away.  It is better than a lascannon at that range by quite a sizable amount and miles better than a multimelta apart from really close in.  Although the vindicare *can* shoot other targets, his other ammo types are somewhat less brilliant.

The evesor is my personal favourite assassin.  Gone are the days when he was incredibly poor.  Now he is a combat machine, easily capable of ripping any small elite squad to bits.  The only issue for me is, he only does things normal GKs can do, so the vindicare is IMO the better deal.
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« Reply #1399 on: July 23, 2011, 06:12:01 PM »
The blue is quite striking, but the green might be more in line with your theme.  At the same time, some sort of an off-white, cream, bone, light tan, light brown, or maybe even a light grey color might also work.

However, these are Tallerns, so perhaps it depends on the fluff of your army and how they fit into it.
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