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Offline Athiuen

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Help! - Tournament Rules
« on: March 05, 2025, 10:58:56 PM »
I have a tournament coming up and the rules were just posted but I have no idea how to interpret them (specifically the character rules).
What does this mean?

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WARBANDS
[ ] 5 x 1000 pt games (90min each)
[ ] 4x4 Tables.
Characters:
[ ] 35% army character limit.
[ ] Max 4 wounds.
[ ] No Duplicates unless a BSB
[ ] Only characters with a maximum of (x) points may be used.
Unit Strength 1- 95pts
Unit Strength 3- 110pts
[ ] Maximum 0-50pts of Magic items/ Runes/ Tattoes/ Virtues/ Gifts/ Vampire/ Big names combined per character.
Army:
[ ] 3+ units (characters and war machines don't count)
[ ] No single unit size over 250pts or 25 models.
[ ] No unit entry duplicates. Except if in core where you can have a second of the same unit entry.
[ ] Max 2 war machines.
[ ] Magic banners- core only
[ ] Any model can only ever use 2 different saves.
[ ] No special characters.
[ ] No Allies.
[ ] No Mercenaries

I think I have a handle on the units rules - they're pretty straight forward.

The character rules, however, are a mess.
Is each US1 character limited to 95 points (before or after magic items/enhancements) or am I limited to 95 points of US1 characters? Do character upgrades (non-magic armour and weapons) count towards this point value or is this just the buy-in value?
What about US2 cavalry characters? Are they unlimited?
Are the magic item restrictions for all characters or each individual character?
« Last Edit: March 05, 2025, 11:07:08 PM by Athiuen »
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Offline Footpatrol2

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2025, 12:49:15 AM »
Contact your tournament organizers. If your confused then likely others are as well.

Offline Athiuen

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2025, 01:19:30 AM »
Yeah, I have. I just wanted to see if others saw the same problems.
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Offline Motley

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2025, 10:22:01 PM »
Please report back because that looks confusing to say the least.

Offline Athiuen

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2025, 10:05:57 AM »
Here's the update:

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WARBANDS

[  ] 5 x 1000 pt games (90min each)
[  ] 4x4 Tables.

Characters:
[  ] 35% army character limit.
[  ] Max 4 wounds.
[  ] No Duplicates unless a BSB
[  ] Only characters with a maximum starting profile points of (x) may be used.
Unit Strength 1- 95pts
Unit Strength 3- 110pts
[  ] May add any further upgrades (Wizard lvl, mounts, Armour, weapons)
[  ] Maximum 0-50pts of Magic items/ Runes/ Tattoes/ Virtues/ Gifts/ Vampire/ Big names combined per character.
[  ] Max 1 Lvl3 Wizard if available.
[  ] All Wizards +2 cast/dispel max.

Army:
[  ] 3+ units (characters and war machines don't count)
[  ] No single unit size over 250pts or 25 models.
[  ] No unit entry duplicates. Except if in core where you can have a second of the same unit entry.
[  ] Max 2 war machines.
[  ] Magic banners- core only
[  ] Any model can only ever use 2 different saves.
[  ] No special characters.
[  ] No Allies.
[  ] No Mercenaries

Here's a Nuln List that I think would be pretty nasty within the confines of the rules:

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City-State of Nuln [1000 pts]

++ Characters [345 pts] ++
Empire Engineer [235 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Battle Standard Bearer
- War Wagon
- Von Trickschotte's Wondrous Arquebus

Captain of the Empire [110 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Brace of pistols
- General
- Empire warhorse
- Squintsoffen's Marvellous Magnifier

++ Core Units [290 pts] ++
10 Nuln State Troops [100 pts]
- Halberds
- Light armour
- 5x State Missile Troops [Hand weapons + Handguns]

10 Outriders [190 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Pistols
- Repeater handguns
- Heavy armour

++ Special Units [125 pts] ++
Great Cannon [125 pts]
- Great cannon
- Hand weapons

++ Rare Units [240 pts] ++
Helblaster Volley Gun [135 pts]
- Veteran
- Vanguard

5 Empire Road Wardens [105 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Brace of pistols
- Heavy armour
- Feigned Flight
- Vanguard
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Offline commandant

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2025, 10:30:56 AM »
I would break the 10 outriders into 2 groups of 5.   As they are core this should be permitted.

Offline Athiuen

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2025, 11:59:36 AM »
I would break the 10 outriders into 2 groups of 5.   As they are core this should be permitted.

1 unit per 1000 points is core.
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Offline commandant

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Re: Help! - Tournament Rules
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2025, 12:47:08 PM »
I would break the 10 outriders into 2 groups of 5.   As they are core this should be permitted.

1 unit per 1000 points is core.

Forgot that