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Offline commandant

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Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« on: April 16, 2025, 05:54:06 PM »
Might be good at murdering wizards. He would have re-roll to hit and re-roll to wound. Most wizards don't have any armour and with multi wound (2) there is a reasonable chance he could straight one shot a level 4.
Given how powerful magic can be it might be a worthy investment to take out your opponents magic.

Put him on a peggy and he costs 135 points. Most level 4's cost more than that.

That said ring of fortune + giant blade has the same impact for one turn and would be Str5 instead of Str4

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2025, 07:54:21 AM »
I tried it at some point but the two attacks didn't do much. He was in a unit and not on pegasus though, it could allow you to really get your targets then.

What really bothers me with the Witch hunter is how easy it is to kill due to its lack of armor. The sword of justice costs just as much as the WH... I'll need to try it again with a build such as Twice-blessed armor to handle a few hits. I also like the dual weapons to have a better chance to land a 6 to wound, but I didn't do the maths on how it could be better than another build.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2025, 08:20:07 AM »
The thing is that most wizards only have 3 wounds, so only 2 if you have Multi wound 2.
Sure the witch hunter will die but the wizard is worth as much as the witch hunter (even an empire level 4 is worth 135 points most of the time) and limiting your opponent to 1 fated dispel a turn would be massive

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2025, 02:44:14 PM »
I think Pearl daggers are the only magic weapon thats worth it.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2025, 06:52:18 PM »
The thing is that one of the big advantages of the pearl daggers is built into the witch hunter.

The idea is not volume of attacks that causes the kill but the quality of the attacks. Multi wound 2 is quite good against a 3 wound model. It is worth remembering that the peggy also has attacks.

I think the ring of fortune plus giant blade might be the way to go really.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2025, 11:46:32 AM »
Its very rare to get the hatred unless you play friendly games.

There are just better choices for a MW weapon. 2 attacks with WS4 is terrible for it.
Giant blade have no AP. So you are lucky to even get one wound.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2025, 01:07:43 PM »
Hatred is built into the witch hunter.   The idea is to use the manoeuvrability of the peggy to slam him into your opponent's level 4.

2 attacks at WS4 (against the W4 or 3 of the wizard) with hatred gets you 2 hits on average 75% of the time (more if your opponent's wizard is only WS3).   With the giant blade you will be str 5 so wounding most wizards on a 3 with a re-roll.

Certainly there is no AP (well except Armour bane 2) but wizards generally don't have armour so that isn't a massive concern.

On top of the witch hunter's attack there are also the 2 peggy attacks.

Mathematically you have at least a 50% chance of wiping the wizard in 1 round of combat.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2025, 04:37:42 PM »
You only have hatred vs an army. Not all the time. If you got to choose at the beginning of the match its ok. But you have to choose when you muster. So you wont have hatred 90% of the time.

When it comes to Wizards most Wizards in this game wont stand so you can charge them. If you can charge them they kill you first. MR 2 wont save you and your 3 Wounds 4T 6+ save is terrible.

Pearl daggers give you the opportunity to face a lot of opponents. Like killing Dragon ogres.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2025, 04:46:00 PM »
Witch hunters have hatred v wizards.

A witch hunter on a peggy has a 17 inch charge range and a 20 inch move.

If your opponent's wizard is in a unit (which is very common) it would be reasonably easy for you to line up a charge against that unit given you 20 inch fly move and 360 degree LOS.

Very few wizards that I can think of have I9.

You have your own wizards to provide magic protection against your opponent's wizards.

If the opponent's wizard flees from your charge then he can't dispell your casting attempts.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2025, 09:31:40 AM »
It can work. I've run him bare-bones with just dual pistols, as well as with the Twice-Blessed Armour, which gives him both resilience and quite a good potential output. Occasionally, just the threat is almost as good as actually getting into combat, he makes lone wizards REALLY cautious.

Of course, other times he's failed terribly, but still absorbs a few spells due to his MR(2).

Image below is Turn 3 of a game where he finally caught up with his quarry. No killing blow but he did win the fight eventually. He was eaten by a Manticore on Turn 5 but hey... glory to Sigmar and all...


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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2025, 10:22:54 AM »
Even if he just pushes the opponent's wizard out of dispell range of your wizard he is very useful.

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2025, 09:00:00 PM »
It can work. I've run him bare-bones with just dual pistols, as well as with the Twice-Blessed Armour, which gives him both resilience and quite a good potential output. Occasionally, just the threat is almost as good as actually getting into combat, he makes lone wizards REALLY cautious.

Of course, other times he's failed terribly, but still absorbs a few spells due to his MR(2).

Image below is Turn 3 of a game where he finally caught up with his quarry. No killing blow but he did win the fight eventually. He was eaten by a Manticore on Turn 5 but hey... glory to Sigmar and all...



What model is that?

Offline Count James

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2025, 11:21:58 PM »
He's made from lots of bits, there more pics in the linked post below:

The rider's head and body are Reaper Miniatures' "Abram Duskwalker", plus some Free Company arms and pistols, legs from a plastic Outrider, cape is the original model's metal, then a bit of a wizard plus a layer of green stuff. The pegasus body is from the Hurricanum and the wings and front legs (and back hooves) are the plastic Brettonian pegknight.

Clicky above
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Offline Motley

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Re: Witch hunter with sword of justice.
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2025, 01:06:02 PM »
He's made from lots of bits, there more pics in the linked post below:

The rider's head and body are Reaper Miniatures' "Abram Duskwalker", plus some Free Company arms and pistols, legs from a plastic Outrider, cape is the original model's metal, then a bit of a wizard plus a layer of green stuff. The pegasus body is from the Hurricanum and the wings and front legs (and back hooves) are the plastic Brettonian pegknight.

Clicky above

Thanks, that’s a great thread of all you Empire army.