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Imperial Artisans ... The Painters, Crafters & Writers Guilds => The Brush and Palette => Topic started by: ZeroTwentythree on March 03, 2008, 07:23:11 PM
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I've had a paint log at Warseer for a while and I've meant to post stuff here at W-E for a while. I was recently reminded of this in my latest update, so here's a little bit of what I've been working on recently.
I've probably mentioned this before... this is for a Marienburg army. I've been collecting Empire miniatures for a very long time (3rd ed?) but never actually put togeter an army until now. I think the concept I wanted to do just seemed a bit daunting. Since Marienburg is a diverse merchant city, I wanted the army to have a mercenary landsknecht look, with no uniform and a variety of races (humans, dwarves, sea-elves, ogres, halflings...) This should work well with some of the old-school figures I have, plus the addition of some of the newer figures.
It's been a while, but I've slowly been working on getting enough figures done to play some games. (I've played a couple of small games using some unpainted figures, but it was rough as gaming with unpainted figures goes against my principles. ::heretic:: )
Below are the first 42 swordsmen I've finished. I still need to make a standard for the standard bearer. I'm trying to come up with an alternative to doing it in paper. I'd prefer plastic, but then I need to figure out how to attach it securely. I've got 8 more partially complete (including more command figures) and have started assembling even more swordsmen, so I can run at least 2 parent units of 25 and 2 detachments of 9.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/swd21a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/swd21b.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/swd21c.jpg)
Also worked on some artillery crew. One can never have too many. I started Leonardo years ago (5+), but only recently finished him. I think he's one of my most long-term projects.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/artcrw02.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/loe01.jpg)
ACHTUNG! I've removed my progress list and started to streamline it for my own convenience & sanity. If you want to peek at where I'm at in terms of painting troops...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmWnOHNZEk4TdGFnRGx6VWljcEtYbW5ERFkxT2pqQkE
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Wow.
I wish I had the patience to paint them all in different schemes, I tried it for some Dwarfs once, was put off very quickly.
I love all the old models too, especially the champion, he's such a good model, I want one :-D
Good luck with all the painting
Cheers
Jusk
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Nice painting. In my army, not every model, but every unit has it's own colours, so i guess we're kinda alike.
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Beautiful! Send them all to me at once! :icon_eek:
Did you make the bucklers? Or buy them from somewhere?
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dont send them Rufus, send them to me. I promise I will treat them with respect. Were the bucklers from the original early shields with the holes in the centers? BTW you did a darn good job on the troopers, I eagerly await the revelation of your standard. If possible post the back ranks individually also they look sharp from what I can see. Thanks for sharing, steveb
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dont send them Rufus, send them to me.
I'll fight you for them.
I've been thinking about going for the multi-coloured landsknecht look on some of my vast mountain of unpainted models, and now that I've seen these I know it can work. Not that my painting is as good though...
Oh, and get some pikemen!
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Thanks guys.
The bucklers are mostly from Old Glory. I drilled holes into the hands and into the back of the buckler and pinned them in place.
I looked at using some of the old round shields with the holes in the center that steveb mentions (and using the center parts from the really old skeleton boxed set) but they weren't exactly what I was looking for -- just a slight bit larger than these.
What I would really have killed for was a pile of around 100 of those bucklers from the Mordheim set. (I only have 2) I've even contemplated trying to GS cast them. I know GW has even gone as far as publishing instructions on how to do that with their own bits in their own magazine, but I didn't want to get nailed for it if I ever play in one of their tournaments so I figured -- strangely enough -- that it was safer to go with the competition. :|
As far as pikemen... I have a bunch of Foundry landsknechts, some of which I've even started to paint. But those will be waaaay down the list of priorities right now. Especially since there's a slim chance I'd even use them in Warhammer Ancients as the HRE/Germans kind of got the shaft. I've really contemplated building some pikemen with the plastic spearmen, but it seems they are getting hard to find now. And I keep getting outbid on eBay. (I know you're out there reading this, whoever you are. :x )
The trick to painting all the multi-colors is to work on a batch of 6-10 at a time and do them all in similar colors, but different patterns. It helps speed things up when you're working with the same paints, even if the figures aren't exactly the same. I'd even go as far as mixing troop types next time.
For example, take 4 handgunners, 4 greatswords, 6 swordsmen, 2 crossbow, an artillery crew and a command figure and paint them all with a blue and white color scheme. Then some of the last minute details can vary, like the bows around the legs, 1/2 could be yellow, 1/2 could be red (or whatever).
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How old is that standard bearer? I think he's the coolest mini of the lot...
sj
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I think I'll join the fight for those minis, they look absolutely stunning!
I'm trying to come up with an alternative to doing it in paper.
If I were you I'd use aluminium sheet, just cut up a beer or soda can and there you have it! Flatten it first of course (for this type of banner as the beauty of the stuff is that you can bend it into any shape you want and stay that way) and glue it to the banner pole with superglue (or an epoxy glue if you really want it to stick).
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lead sheet is even better !
And I want to sign up for this fight too...
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These guys look great! Very beautifully painted and a riot of color that works well together.
I'm trying to come up with an alternative to doing it in paper.
You may want to try a combination brass rod/plastic banner. The brass rod gives it strength (lead banner poles tend to have short lifespans) and the plastic is easy to work with, and pretty strong on it's own. Just drill out the standard bearers hand for a 1/16 brass rod (it'll be much stronger if your hole goes through the base as well. Add a dab of epoxy to the bottom for a bit of ballast and an extra strong pole).
The banner can be made out of an old 6th ed banner or plastic rod/tubing and plasticard. If using an old 6th ed banner, slice up the old plastic pole and remove the cylindrical sections of "fabric". Drill a hole thru the sections and slide them over a brass rod. Mine fit snugly, but use a bit of glue if you need it. You can also drill a few sections of plastic rod out and put them on a brass rod, or if you're lazy, just use the right size tubing. After that, just glue your banner to the plastic "fabric" cylinders. You can heat up the plasticard and place some ripples in it for a waving effect if you want a wavy banner. If you left a bit of banner pole poking out of the top of the banner, you can add a decorative banner top of your choice. Skulls work fine, as well as banner tops from the knightly orders sprue or the new soldiers boxes.
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I like the standard bearer too, nice paint job. I think he is an old Marauder Miniatures figure. Very nice units.
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The standard bearer is an old Marauder figures, as Hendrid mentioned, later worked into the main Citadel Empire line. Late 80's maybe?
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm60ftrs.htm
The champion is here, an early 90's figure I think.
http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92356empcommand-01.htm
(Shameless begging: I'm looking for the figure to the left and right of the musician & standard bearer in the first pic and "hero with sword 1" and "hero with halberd" in the second pic. If anyone's got any of them and interested in selling or a trade for something send me a private message.)
I've done paper and metal standards before, and I'd really like to try plastic this time (bending it a bit, as Pistol Pete mentioned). I think I will probably do it that way and replace his banner pole with brass as suggested. At first I was thinking about making the plasticard banner, gluing on 2 or 3 pieces of hollow tubing and then sliding that over his existing pole (after cutting the finial/top off)
Thanks for the replies everyone.
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WOW, your army is really beautiful! :-o I never thought painting every model differently could work so well for imperials. Oh, and I also love the old blue-gold dude with the book.
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I like!
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I have that hero with swords guy... but I can't sell it... he's too cool - unless of course you have something as cool as that guy.
:D
sj
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Love it! Great looking force, and keep up the good work.
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Really sweet use of colors, and a very slick layering technique. :eusa_clap:
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I had planned on getting a bunch of painting done this weekend due to the massive snowstorms. We got snowed all weekend, but I ended up spending time doing a bunch of other things around the house, exploring the frozen neighborhood with my dog, and a ton of shoveling snow.
In addition to the painted stuff in the pics, I assembled & primed another 9-man swordsman detachment, converted a broken 6th ed. handgunner into a crossbowman and cleaned up a DOW mounted hero to use a a mounted warrior priest of Manaan. Or a mounted hero. Not sure yet.
On to the pics...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gs22a.jpg)
5 more greatswords, bringing my completed total to 22. My present goal is to get a unit of 25 ready for the battlefield. The top (front) part of the pic is a bit blurry. I have two salvaged metal greatswords. I got them for almost nothing because they were missing their arms. I fixed this with plastic arms from the militia set. Also, second from the left is an old "Paladin" from when GW had figures of 4 or 5 "Fighters." I've got some more, but the rest look more bretonnian than empire. I suppose this shouldn't matter since Marienburg presumably gets bretonnian recruits, so maybe I will paint some of the others up. I'm trying to stick with the empire look, though. The other two (center and furthest right) are just plastic figures from the 5/6th ed. sets, the "middenheim" two-handed hammer arms with the actual hammer cut off and replaced by some greatswords that I think came from the mordhiem set.
I like the look of the armoured arms better, but these will all be back-rankers, so I'm not too worried.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gs22b.jpg)
Here's the unit so far. Only a few more guys and I'm done. For now.
And a bit of terrain I did over the weekend...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/hdg22a.jpg)
Simple hedges. Green dish scrubber cut into strips & glued onto two-ply chipboard (from the art store, it's the cheap board that's sort of made up of the plulp from all the leftovers of other papers & boards, usually grey and pretty dense stuff.) Drybrushed 3 different greens, did the bases similar to the figures bases and the other terrain and future (and past) gaming table. Each is 4" long.
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Nice work! I like the greatswords and hedges! Oh wait, that's all you posted! :icon_mrgreen: :wink:
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The freehand on the banner is great! That is one area I really wish I was better at :icon_biggrin:
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Thanks. I'm happy with the freehand banner, but it's not quite up to some of the others I've seen. I'm hoping to improve a bit on the next few.
What I have found helpful so far is to do a few quick sketches of what I want on the banner on paper at the exact size. I'll draw the outline of the banner a few times then sketch in a few designs to get the spacing & proportion working. Then I'll do the same thing again with paint, but I'll just do it in a sort of sketchy way. Same concept - so I'll have an idea how I want to proportion the brush strokes, highlights, etc.
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High quality stuff. These guys really look like some of the landschneckts from old.
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Thanks. I'm happy with the freehand banner, but it's not quite up to some of the others I've seen. I'm hoping to improve a bit on the next few.
stop making me feel bad : (
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I've had very little time to work on my Marienburgers lately, but here's a few items..
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/mwp01.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/mwp02.jpg)
First a DOW captain I'm using as a mouted warrior priest of Manaan. I like the figure, and like that he's simple but elegent looking. I can always use him as some other sort of hero (captain/mounted general) if I change my mind or convert a new WP.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/hrb01.jpg)
A Helstorm. The first of two and a half.
Half? Why yes, after seeing steveb's pics, I had to dig out an old model to press into mercenary service...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/orb01.jpg)
The old Nippon rocket launcher. I may use it, I may not. Maybe for those big games where I want 3 Helstorms (sincne Helblasters aren't that great and STanks are only for the retarded.)
A pair of conversions...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/fwp01.jpg)
First is a a warrior priest of Manaan on foot. It's the legs from the hero on the old comand sprue, the armoured torso of a knight (I think), an armoured left arm from the Mordheim sprue, the halberd arm also from the Mordheim sprue, a 6th ed spearman sheild with the embossed portion cut & filed off, a head from the hairy sprue, cloak from the outriders sprue (arm carved out of it) and some bits of plasticart and florist wire for the trident head.
This was my first time trying to cut a weapon from plasticard. Consdiering the shape of a trident, it was a real pain, even considering that I tried to stick with something nsimple & angular. I put the wire (as cord - I'll add some knots with greenstuff) to help hide the joint between the shaft and the stabby-pokey bit. It doesn't look great, but I'm not sure what else to do. Any suggestions, feedback, etc. are appreciated. Let me know if you think it looks OK or not.
And lastly...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/cvstd01.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/cvstd02.jpg)
A converted standard bearer, from one of the old metal halbardiers. He's the only one I've got and I've been considering a couple different conversions (mainly making him into a greatsword) but was suddenly inspired to try making a few banners from plasticard heated up over the stove, bent into shape and glued onto some plastic tube. (This is one of 3 - the best, IMHO.) So I simply cut off the halberd, fixed up the puffy sleeve where it met, drilled out the hand and then used the head as the top of the banner pole -- mainly because I was having trouble finding something else I liked at the moment. I hadn't noticed this IRL, but in that first pic it looks a little crooked. I'll have to try fixing that.
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Awesome dude. Awesome! I like all those models, but I have to agree with rufus that the halverd head looks kinda weird.
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Wow! The mixed coloring of this units looks super and works very well together. :icon_cool:
Also, the standard with the Halberd head on it looks a bit top heavy.
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(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/fwp01.jpg)
First is a a warrior priest of Manaan on foot. It's the legs from the hero on the old comand sprue, the armoured torso of a knight (I think), an armoured left arm from the Mordheim sprue, the halberd arm also from the Mordheim sprue, a 6th ed spearman sheild with the embossed portion cut & filed off, a head from the hairy sprue, cloak from the outriders sprue (arm carved out of it) and some bits of plasticart and florist wire for the trident head.
angulaThis was my first time trying to cut a weapon from plasticard. Consdiering the shape of a trident, it was a real pain, even considering that I tried to stick with something nsimple & r. I put the wire (as cord - I'll add some knots with greenstuff) to help hide the joint between the shaft and the stabby-pokey bit. It doesn't look great, but I'm not sure what else to do. Any suggestions, feedback, etc. are appreciated. Let me know if you think it looks OK or not.
To enhance your fluff and the manaan thing how about green stuffing seaweed instead of rope and maybe a little anchor chain with clam shells on the end. I am really impressed with your quality of work and conversions, keep it up. steveb
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You know 023, I think you inspired me to change my army from Stirland to Marienburg eh. Just the ecstatic colour combination alone is making me want to start painting in blues and greens and oranges and reds... bah! You are simply an inspiration!
sj
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You know 023, I think you inspired me to change my army from Stirland to Marienburg eh. Just the ecstatic colour combination alone is making me want to start painting in blues and greens and oranges and reds... bah! You are simply an inspiration!
sj
@ Soju: Is that reaaaallllly soooo? Well what have we here, a traitor perhaps??? ::heretic:: Well Soju you know what, I totally agree with you :-P the colours are outstanding, but instead of going over to Marienburg what I will do is to paint my 2nd unit of old greatswords in this manner. This way they have more of the Landsnecht mercenary feel and I can justify it by saying that they are hired mercenaries.
@ 023: Can you please provide us with so more close ups of different models from both your units? I would definately want to try to mimic your style and colours :eusa_clap:
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Well, like I said, I wasn't really that fond of the halberd top in the first place, so due to popular opinion... It's gone. I've added a simple flat cap (unknown bit, 40k maybe) and laurel. Forgot my camera at another office so no pics right now.
I also pulled the cord off the trident. I never actually glued it on because I wasn't sure I was going to use it. I rounded the base of the trident head off a bit. I'm going to paint it up that way and see how it looks, otherwise I may end up popping it off and starting a new trident from scratch.
I am really impressed with your quality of work and conversions, keep it up.
Thanks, that means alot coming from you -- I think you're the one that's set the bar pretty high with some of your conversions (and terrain)!
You know 023, I think you inspired me to change my army from Stirland to Marienburg eh. Just the ecstatic colour combination alone is making me want to start painting in blues and greens and oranges and reds... bah! You are simply an inspiration!
Muhahaha.... that's it... turn to the dark bright and colorful side.
Besides, we all know where the money's at... :closed-eyes:
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Yep. Right here. Mercenary army serving the Emperor! Oh yeah!
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Finished the first 5 Sons of Manann knights:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/26a.jpg)
I've got 6 more horses finished and riders started.
I've got about a month to get enough figures painted to play in the Buckeye Battles Indy GT
http://www.buckeyebattles.com/
I've already submitted my list, so I'm locked in. Roughly, I've still got to finish:
* 5 Knights
* 9 Archers
7 Swordsmen
1 Mounted Warrior Priest
1 Helstorm Rocket Launcher
*3 HRL crew
The items marked * can probably be substituted with some already figures from my historical Burgundians if I'm desperate enough. (I'm also trying to finish 2250 pts of Burgundians for a Warhammer Ancients tournament two weeks later. :icon_eek: )
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I love those knights, well done! If you paint another unit just like that try using white/off white on the horse armor, kinda like you did on the lances, with that blue collar (not color, but the part around the horses neck) that would I think look really sharp. Do not change these they are great but if you do another think about it. I think that part of it would be psychological, there is what artists call local color, e.g.; wood is brown, steel is silver and so on, well you successfully eliminated the local color reasoning on the knights armor and quite well done to, but then you use local color on the horses armor, it looks good, but deep down it reminds me that the knights armor is not local, by making them both break the rule you tend to make them in agreement with each other. But like I said before do not, do not , change these they are excellent as is. Keep it up. steveb
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Nice looking knights! :icon_biggrin: That armor looks quite nice, and is a nice change from the standard silver (and occasional gold). My only gripe is that the knights armor appears to be painted in a NMM style, where as the horses barding isn't. Just doesn't look right to me, when paired together.
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Good idea, I may try repainting the barding white later on. Or just picking up another box or two of knights in case I want to try out a cav. heavy army. Either way, I'm going to have to leave it silver for now as I'm in a crunch to finish everything in time.
Forgot a few things on the list above... Also need to paint 2 musicians & one standard bearer for my state troops and 5 pistoliers (which need greenstuff patching on the seams of the horses too.)
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One of the two musicians and a WIP standard bearer. This is the converted halbardier I previously posted. I ended up putting a simple "cap" at the top. Below is my "rough draft" sketch of the general look of the banner. Mainly just blocking out the colors & shapes to see if I like it.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/26c.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/26d.jpg)
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Oh very nice stuff as usual. I love the hornblower's ... horn. lol.
sj
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Dude, truly inspirational! Made me sit down and finish a unit of 23 swordsmen that have been staring at me for almost 2 months now!!!
Thank You!! :eusa_clap:
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Nice to see someone else who paints wildly. People are always suprised on how uniform a multicolored army actually looks. And the very fact that they don't think it would be uniform is the same reason most people who dislike it frown upon it. They would much rather stick to their bright exhuberant colors model after model :-P
The advantage of going multicolor is that 1, it dosen't get boring. You can try anything you like and just toss it in the pile. It just works; it's your army! Another advantage is that you don't have to paint in assembly line fashion, tho you certianly can as zerotwentythree has pointed out. This gives generaly raises the individual love and charecter for each model, and in my opinion makes evryone a unique piece that you couldn't recreate agian for your life. Whenever I get bored and have 30 minutes to spare I just do a mini. It is really great.
Long ago back in 6th edition, when Games Workshop did the green and brown color scheme for Dwarfs at the time, I made a post in Bugmans about how painting dwarfs multicoloered was actually more fluffy than painting them uniform. Being that they were clansdwarfs and all. I was promptly bombarded with page numbers and fluff examples of how wrong I was. About how proud a dwarf would be, and that he would,"never go to battle without shiny armour or looking all rag-tag..". Then 7th edition comes along.. :-D. You know the rest. We get multicolored clans-dwarfs. Ahwell.
Grudgie
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I like the standard bearer - that banner should look great.
I still think the knights look too blue, but you get bonus points for not giving them shields. :icon_smile:
Nice to see someone else who paints wildly. People are always suprised on how uniform a multicolored army actually looks. And the very fact that they don't think it would be uniform is the same reason most people who dislike it frown upon it. They would much rather stick to their bright exhuberant colors model after model :-P
Very true! Inspired by zero23's Marienburgers, I have been repainting my miniatures in a multicoloured way. I think it looks fantastic! I'd never do a uniform unit again.
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I like the Musician and standard bearer a lot. Stunning!
I like the knights too, but feel they might need a bit of high-lighting to make the armour a bit more 'metal' looking, but good for all that.
Looking forward to see your next works. Inspired to dig out some of those OOP figs I've got buried somwhere. :biggriin:
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Made me sit down and finish a unit of 23 swordsmen that have been staring at me for almost 2 months now!!!
Heh. Was the number of swordsmen on purpose? :lol: Thanks!
I still think the knights look too blue, but you get bonus points for not giving them shields. :icon_smile:
I think that's the history geek in me. I just couldn't put shields on them.
Regarding the multi-color vs. uniform painting, I do a mix of both, in a way.
I will sometimes take about 8-10 figures (sometimes mix them up, so 4 swordsmen, 2 handgunners, a greatsword and a spearman... or whatever) and paint them using the same colors. Not necessarily the same paint scheme (one might have red pants, the other a red sleeve, etc.) But sticking with the same colors helps speed up the process giving me some of the advantage of assembly line painting, but in the end I still have a big variety.
Other times I will just paint a single figure, or a command figure, or try out a new color scheme like Grudgie said. And yes, it makes it easier to hide the ones that don't quite work out. :engel:
Regarding the standard, I showed it to my GF to get her opinion. She's generally not terribly interested in anything involving gaming/miniatures, but I mentioned what I was trying to do and the concept of sticking with themes that were somewhat nautical and showed her some of the sketches I was doing for ideas for standards and she just started listing a bunch of great ideas. So I may be doing some more standards soon.
On a related note, do you think it would be out of place to add extra standards to a unit without actually having them have an effect on a game? Sort of like the images of landsknecht, swiss, etc. formations that had a bunch of banners, not just a single standard.
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On a related note, do you think it would be out of place to add extra standards to a unit without actually having them have an effect on a game? Sort of like the images of landsknecht, swiss, etc. formations that had a bunch of banners, not just a single standard.
I've been thinking about doing that as well. Go for it! You could even put them in the centre of the formation instead of in the front rank.
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You could even put them in the centre of the formation instead of in the front rank.
That's exactly what I was thinking about doing.
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Of course you can. Adding pennants on spears might be good.
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I love your army :biggriin:
I've just painted my State Troops in varying colours, with the main provincial colours made more common to show a common allegiance.
Painting them that way was a lot more fun, as I could make each one individual.
You're army was the one that showed me Empire could look good that way. :happy:
Hooch
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I think that's the history geek in me. I just couldn't put shields on them.
Could you explain this? So units of knights really didn't use shields?
On a related note, do you think it would be out of place to add extra standards to a unit without actually having them have an effect on a game? Sort of like the images of landsknecht, swiss, etc. formations that had a bunch of banners, not just a single standard.
I like this idea! :icon_biggrin:
Anyway ... for some reason, and I can't figure it out at the moment, but I'm having trouble with the shade of the blue on the knights. Sorry. However, the musician and standard bearer look great! And your painting makes me want to paint as well!
Regarding the mixed colors of uniforms versus similar color schemes, I think both can work well, and it could be ok to have both in the same army. If I was working on a Marienburg army, I could see myself having either or both at the same time. With my Averland army, so far my color scheme has been close to the same across the different units of my Aver River Regiment. Eventually, I could see broadening out with different color schemes to represent other units from other areas of Averland, and maybe even mixing things up across a unit as well.
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Oh, and I also liked the look of concept for the banner. :icon_cool:
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This is one of my favorite armies, and I'm really pleased with the new additions. I didn't care for the banner bearer with the halberd on the end of his pole, and I think it looks much better now. The Dogs of War general is probably the best painted version that I have ever seen of that model. The hornblower is also quite nice.
On a related note, do you think it would be out of place to add extra standards to a unit without actually having them have an effect on a game? Sort of like the images of landsknecht, swiss, etc. formations that had a bunch of banners, not just a single standard.
I've been meaning to do something similar for my detachments. Since they change around quite a bit, I was thinking it'd be useful to have a soldier with a small bannerette that matched the parent units banner. This would make it easier to keep track of them once the game started.
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Could you explain this? So units of knights really didn't use shields?
Full plate armour (historically) made the shield redundant. So in my mind, the two look strange together.
Historically, this was around the time of the Wars of the Roses, Burgundian & Swiss Wars, early 16th century Italian Wars, and is roughly the period that "inspired" the Empire (especially early 16th century, I suppose.)
(Yes, I know it's a fantasy game...)
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On a related note, do you think it would be out of place to add extra standards to a unit without actually having them have an effect on a game? Sort of like the images of landsknecht, swiss, etc. formations that had a bunch of banners, not just a single standard.
I've been meaning to do something similar for my detachments. Since they change around quite a bit, I was thinking it'd be useful to have a soldier with a small bannerette that matched the parent units banner. This would make it easier to keep track of them once the game started.
And it will look great! :icon_biggrin:
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NIce job!! I know what you mean about playing with unpainted miniatures, it kinda lessens the impact during a game. I am currently working my way through a load of Altdorf/Reikland models so the colour is pretty uniform. That said you have inspired me to paint another collection I have just acquired in the 'Marienburg' look.
Thanks for the inspiration
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Great paintwork, a real inspiration for when I get back home and start painting my own Marienburgers. Hey who don't we have marienburg smileys. :smile2:
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Not hot on the blue armour but there is no denying the solid paintjob and excellent theme.
Well done sir! :smile2:
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(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/27c.jpg)
More or less finished the standard bearer over the weekend. I think the lights were a little too close when I took the photo. I was rushed though, trying to get it done before the new Venture Brothers came on TV. :-D
I'm thinking it might be interesting to add a face to the sun, but I think I'm good with what I've got for now and will try to finish everything else before going back with the detail. (I still have to go back and repeat the sun & scrolls on the back of the banner anyway.)
Also finished the second HRL. Didn't get a pic, I'll include it with the next batch.
edit: The top says "Marienburg" the bottom says "auf immer und ewig." I went with German for the Empire because, unfortunately, I don't know Dutch, which might have been more interesting to use for Marienburg. I like the idea of playing up the independence issue on my banners.
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The flag looks amazing! :icon_eek:
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Terrific highlighting on the puffs!
And great use of 5th edition miniatures.
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The flag looks amazing! :icon_eek:
seconded.
Fly over here and the defend Marienburg! We have hardly any players for that faction in July.
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you should matte varnish to protect the paint jobs!
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edit: The top says "Marienburg" the bottom says "auf immer und ewig." I went with German for the Empire because, unfortunately, I don't know Dutch, which might have been more interesting to use for Marienburg. I like the idea of playing up the independence issue on my banners.
What do you want to translate? I can help.
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Judging by the German, probably something like "for ever and ever." (Am I right?)
This would roughly translate as "voor eeuwig en altijd."
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Fly over here and the defend Marienburg! We have hardly any players for that faction in July.
I was thinking that at some point we need to have a "Rally to Marienburg" rollcall.
I think I'm going to have to stay here. At the LGS I think we've got me on Marienburg, one player for Middenheim, and two undetermined Empire forces. Plus a few other armies/players (HE, WE, DE, TK... still not sure how TK fits into this.)
What do you want to translate? I can help.
Well, I would have needed to come up with different slogans along the same lines to see what sounded good. The other problem being I'm not sure how to pronounce Dutch either. So I think I'm going to stick with German. Until I can get some Dutch lessons. :-D Thanks for the offer, I had considered that there's at least a few people on the Forum that could probably have helped me.
you should matte varnish to protect the paint jobs!
Just did that last night, as well as finishing the movement trays and touching up the bases. I've got a practice game tonight and wanted them sealed. It's actually the second coat of varnish for most of them.
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The unit looks amazing 023! Standard is looking good the way it is IMO. Keep up the excellent work.
Small question. When your painting up your units, do you batch paint similar figs/colours or do you paint figures up individually? Just wondering, with the eclectic (landknecht) look, batch painting might be difficult but individually painted would be time consuming.
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I worked on about 50-60 swordsmen, so what I would do is take 6-8 of them at a time and paint them all with the same colors, though different patterns of where the colors went. So it was somewhere between batch painting and individuals.
I would also mix in some of the other figures, so it would be more like 6-8 swordsmen, plus a handgunner or two, maybe a greatsword and/or an artillery crew, etc.
Now that I've slowed down a bit and trying to finish off units or paint detachments, and doing characters & other individuals, I'm doing more individual figures.
My "to do" list is down to...
5 pistoliers (glued together)
5 knights (horses done, knights 1/2 done)
1 warrior priest (horse done, priest 1/2 done - actually just a knight champ until I get a suitable figure)
7 swordsmen (about 1/2 done)
Tournament is in 2 weeks.
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Zero-twenty-three, wow! I am constantly impressed by you multi colored units, this marienberg force is so nice to look at that I can't imagine any opponent paying attention to the game when he has a chance to look at them all together. steveb
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Just amazing painting! Gotta take ages to paint all those models in different schemes tho?
Judging by the German, probably something like "for ever and ever." (Am I right?)
This would roughly translate as "voor eeuwig en altijd."
"Forever and always" would be a better translation tho.
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Just amazing painting! Gotta take ages to paint all those models in different schemes tho?
Judging by the German, probably something like "for ever and ever." (Am I right?)
This would roughly translate as "voor eeuwig en altijd."
"Forever and always" would be a better translation tho.
He said it wasnt that bad.
"The trick is to use the same colours for different models but in a different colour scheme." or something like that.
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Finished the pistoliers and the rest of the swordsmen. Everything I need for the Buckeye Battles GT this weekend is done except finishing the
last bits on 6 knights and some archers.
Disaster struck last night when I clear-coated the recently finished figures, using a new can of clear-coat. A couple of the figures got the
dreaded white fuzzy spray! It happened to me once before, and I've made sure to only spray in the appropriate weather conditions. So I'm not
sure what this was, maybe just the bit of spray from the new can.
Anyway, it was my halfling swordsman and the pistolier on the left that got hit the worst. The trick I've learned for fixing this is to drown them in a
heavy coat of clear coat, which has made them look a little glossier than normal. You can see this on the halfling, as it only happened on the
back of the figure, which looks glossier than the front in the pic below. There is still some white fuzzy stuff on both figures, but I think I got them
mostly covered. I might try a bit of gloss cleat coat then some more matte. What a pain. I don't have time to repaint them before the weekend.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/28a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/28b.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/28c.jpg)
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Fantastic pistoliers!
I like the hobbit too. I have that miniature. :icon_smile:
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It's not that bad! They look great! You better win that GT!
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I am following this tread fore some time. The models are AMAZING!! :eusa_clap:You are indeed a inspiration fore me to
make not a crusade army but instead Marienburg. As fore the pistoleers they are VERY well done :eusa_clap:
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Thanks.
I was excited about the new pistolier figures. I didn't have any of the old ones, and liked the fact that the new ones had some of the puffy-sleeve look to them. At first I thought the heads would be better than the new infantry, but I ended up not liking them much. I think I've also previously complained about the fact that they required a bit more green-stuffing than I would like -- especially on the horses. The neck joints are cleaner than the hold horses, but the joint between the two halves was fairly messy IMHO.
Eventually I plan on getting more, but may use the old head with the helmet with visor, and may try getting some of the old metal figures as well. (I recently painted about 10 of those for someone else, on commission, and thought they were pretty good figures.)
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and may try getting some of the old metal figures as well. (I recently painted about 10 of those for someone else, on commission, and thought they were pretty good figures.)
I was looking at my metal pistoliers the other day, and I suddenly thought, "wow, these have really ugly faces." :icon_confused:
I don't much like the plastic version either. It's only the paint job that makes yours look good. :icon_smile:
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This army looks just great. Awesome minis, paintjobs and cool bases. The pistoliers are cool too, not too fond of the knights, but they look ok and the paintjob is soo smooth :)
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Stunning! Fantastic! Wunderbar! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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I absolutely love your army, it has been an inspiration. :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
The banner you did has motivated me to finish my Swordsmen & standard bearer.
I have included dwaves & halflings in my Stirland Militia and was quite pleased with them until I saw yours :oops:
Oh well back to the drawing board :dry:
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No pics today, but I almost finished the remaining knights & archers last night. They should be done tonight, but that probably means skipping the game night at the local store, so no practice game. :-(
The tournament organizer posted a list of armies. Looks like I'm the only Empire player. There are 8 Daemon players and 6 VC. :Ohmy:
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There are 8 Daemon players and 6 VC. :Ohmy:
Out of how many players?
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15 probably...
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Hah. No, it's a decent sized event, around 50.
The other big players are 6 dwarves and 5 HE.
Unpopular lists are Empire, OK & DoW with 1 each. Most of the rest are 2 or 3. I think 4 lizards. I'll have to go back and look...
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Not a fan of the plastic Pistoliers, but very good painting as usual. Keep up the good work. Good luck in the GT.
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Not a fan of the plastic Pistoliers
:-o
That's new!!Well, for me at least.
Lovely painting zerotwentythree, I really like the pistolier on the far right.
Probably because of his superior uniform colours, but hey..
I'm not just saying that to piss off reiklanders or anything.. especially not shadowlord
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So many great painters-converters on this site!
amazing what people, including you, make these days!
:::cheers:::
a3aan
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The last nine archers are finished. Well, not quite, I still need to add a few details to the bases. These are Front Rank archers, and are also part of the Burgundian army I need to finish in another two weeks for a Warhammer Ancients tournament. (Busy Warhammer Summer!)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/29a.jpg)
Also finished six more knights, one of which (the one without a crest, on the champion horse) will be acting as a mounted warrior priest until I get a suitable model.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/29b.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/29c.jpg)
I was paranoid about the clearcoat after having issues the last time, so I think I applied it a little to heavy on these figures, giving them a very slight gloss even though its matte finish.
So that's it for the figures I need for the GT, about a day to spare, which I will enjoy relaxing with a nice dinner with my girlfriend before heading out for a WFB weekend.
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Good luck at the tournament, and let us know how things go. :::cheers:::
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Two thumbs up all the way, may the dice roll in your favor. steveb
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I really am loving that blue on the knights, it's my type of colour.
Good luck in the tournament.
Tom
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I have posted also some time ago some knights of Mannan but they are not match fore you painting quality!!
Superb :eusa_clap:
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Thanks all!
I'll need all the luck I can get. I think I've been playing solidly, but I've been blowing almost every LD test I've had to make, rolling 11 or 12 pretty consistently.
I got news of the tiered set up for the first few games of the GT. The division I'm in will feature...
2 HoC
1 BoC
3 DW
1 HE
1 EM (me)
1 OK
2 OG
2 DE
1 DoW
The other divisions are...
Band 1
3 WE
3 VC
5 DC
3 LM
1 HE
1 BR
1 HoC
1 SK
Band 2
1 VC
1 DC
1 BR
4 DW
2 LM
2 TK
3 HE
1 SK
1 OG
1 HoC
So it looks like I'll have some good games for the first few rounds before potentially being thrown to the wolves. Dire wolves. Or Fleshounds.
I'm bringing a camera and will try to post battle reports in the appropriate section after the weekend.
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I'm wondering if there is any rhyme or reason as to why they set those up the way they did?
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Looking good! Enjoy this day and kick some chaos ass!
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I'm wondering if there is any rhyme or reason as to why they set those up the way they did?
My understanding is that the individual lists were rated by 7 different judges from different regions (presumably the areas from which the tournament draws - I believe someone in our area was asked for a bit of input) based on composition, and then split up into the three tiers. It's a two day event, and those tiers are only for the first few games.
I'm assuming that it's intended to give less competitive armies a chance to win a game or two before facing the more competitive armies. Otherwise I suppose it may work out the other way around. For example, at other tournaments I've lost my first game against a strong opponent and then crushed my remaining opponents as I've been placed in a "losers bracket."
At the end of the day, it will all come down to wins, losses, sportsmanship and painting, and anyone who's going to win is going to face some difficult match-ups. It should be fun! :mrgreen:
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I survived the GT intact. It was a great time. Someone asked about a pic of the whole army, here it is between games (not the best photo, sorry):
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/buckeye08/mbrg1.jpg)
After I get some time, I'll post some pics of some of the other armies and some battle reports and general rambling in the Elector's Lounge. Er... Elector's Forum.
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Oh My Gosh ! :Ohmy:
That is a truly awesome army - wont come round and paint mine would you ?
:smile2:
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You are going to a tournament without the seemingly requisite 2 stank popemobile combo that seems to be all prevalent at the moment. I salute you! :icon_biggrin:
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You are so going to kick butt bro. Like, as soon as you prop an army like that on table, other players will die at the sheer awesomeness of this army.
sj
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Amazing! I love your army, especially the knights. If the dice roll by the rule of the best painted army then you should be fine.
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I'm in the process of finishing my army for a WAB tournament at Historicon (medieval division) and thought I'd post a couple of progress pics. I plan on using these in my Marienburg army as well as the historical Burgundian Ordonnance.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/burg07c.jpg)
They should tie in with the Crisis in Marienburg campaign list, since we can take core pike.
In the background, you can see my Empire ogres, which I've pulled out so I can also (finally) finish them for the campaign list as well.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/burg07a.jpg)
And some archers, almost done. I've already been using some of my completed Burgundian archers as detachments for my WFB army.
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Love those pikemen -- where are they from?
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http://www.frontrank.com/
They're from the Wars of the Roses range. Mostly pikemen, a mix of armoured & unarmoured. The "champion" is a men-at-arms, but I gave him a pike instead of the pole-arm he comes with.
The figures are really nice, and rival the landsknecht figures the Perry brothers did for Foundry, in my opinion.
When I'm done, I'll post some more figure comparison photos in the figure comparison sticky thread.
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Again TOPWORK!!!! Bravo :eusa_clap: Indeed it is nice to see once a picture of you're complete army.
With some more detailed ones we will get a good overview. Keep up with the good work :smile2:
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Bah! I never managed to finish the pikemen in time, though I got the rest 98% done (need a few touch-ups.) I still used them. There was another guy there who had an amazing Hundred Years War English army, but was in a similar position -- didn't finish some of his rank & file. His knights were incredible, though. All hand painted heraldry. I may have some photos. My computer's acting up, though.
I went 1-1-1 in the WAB tournament, against Ottomans (draw), Low Countries (big loss), Italians (big win).
I entered my GW Leonardo figure and some of my Front Rank crossbowmen in the painting contest (which was a bit small) and got first for the single figure & honorable mention for the unit (the above HYW English knights won first.)
I still plan on fininshing the pike soon to include in some Crisis in Marienburg games, since I can take them as core. I also picked up about 60 Flemish pikemen to add to the collection. :-D
As soon as I get the photos edited, I'll post a separate thread with a few interesting things from the convention. I'm assuming it's OK to post non-WFB stuff in the Brush & Palette. Or am I wrong?
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I'm assuming it's OK to post non-WFB stuff in the Brush & Palette. Or am I wrong?
Do it! I want to see the WAB army. :icon_smile:
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Oh, what a great army you have there, love the conversions too, top job Sir :smile2:
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Started painting the warrior priest of Manann (on foot) that I converted a while back...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/31c.jpg)
Unfortunately with the new set up I'm getting a mix of daylight & incandescent in the pic, but you get the idea where I'm at so far. I'm not sure if I should have painted a background color on the shield instead of the silver. The Marienburg mermaid doesn't really pop out (visually) as much as I'd like. Opinions?
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wow he looks great. Everything is neatly done and crisp. Only thing is that you might want to highlight on his skirt a bit more. The shield looks amazing, honestly.
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The priest is very well done.
I especially like the shield. Nice freehand on this one.
Your army looks great and realy represents a force of Marienburg. But I figuere you don't play often in a GW store. :unsure:
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great job with the shield. The mermaid looks a little off center but it could be the angle. What did you use for the tip of the trident?
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A really nice model! :eusa_clap:
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What did you use for the tip of the trident?
Just plasticard. It was a pain in the ass. It's even pinned in place. First time I've tried pinning plasticard that thin. (1/16" thick at most.)
Still, it was a learning experience and I will hopefully do better on the next one. :-D
Here's the original pic I had posted, pre-paint:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/fwp01.jpg)
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:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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I really like that shield.
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Over the weekend I went a little terrain crazy. Mainly with an idea I had for a coastal tower. It's not finished modelling yet, and remains unpainted. I need to add a bit of texture to the tower walls and a bunch of little details. The rectangles on the towers are frames for the windows. Also some little "extras" to make it a bit more... odd. But nothing further on that until I can actually see if I can make it work. :wink:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/32d.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/32c.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/32e.jpg)
I also did a bit of rough ground while I was in terrain-making mode. And I finished my warrior priest, shown in the rough terrain for scale (though you can't really see the bits I finished from this angle.)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/32a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/32b.jpg)
I've also updated the list on the first page a bit. I fell behind on that a bit.
My priorities (aside from finishing the tower) are:
25 Swordsmen (unit)
10 Archers
I need to get those done for Marauders Mayhem in October. http://marauders-inc.com/ I want to switch my army list up a bit from what I used at Buckeye Battles (and a number of games since), thus the swordsmen. I had borrowed archers from my medieval Burgundian army and they looked fine, but if I can finish the figures I have for the Marienburgers anyway, I'd be happy. I don't know why I'm even worried about it.
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Nice piece of terrain.
Well if you go even more crazy you can even build a diagonal tower like those Tileans.
Would fit Marienburg theme as they claim to be as cultured as Tileans.
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Argh! Stop painting so awesome! I love the way you did the WP's beard and shaded his skirt.
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I saw ZeroTwentythree's army in person last weekend. I have to say the pictures don't do it justice. Seeing the ranks of different colors together gave it a surprisingly unified feel. Amazing work and an amazing army (even though my unpainted mob did have a better battle record)! :::cheers:::
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ZeroTwentythree
Don't suppose you could post some close up pictures of the other units in your army - e.g. the spearmen and war machines - and your characters ?
Your army is superb and I ( and I'm sure everyone else ) would like to see more of it .
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Update!
First off, a second objective marker to go with the one I previously posted...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/33a.jpg)
I've added two more pistoliers to the five I already had. They get shot up so quickly, I'm going to try a slightly larger unit for a bit. I still have three remaining figures I can always do something with, or add in.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/33b.jpg)
And lastly, I finally finished that big pike unit I've been working on. I'm pretty happy with it. Actually, I'm not quite finished, I still need to paint a banner. But I've got a pretty nice printed one that I can slide onto the standard bearer as a temporary measure.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/33c.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/33d.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/33e.jpg)
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Fantastic pikemen!
What's that on the stone in the objective marker?
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those look like holstered pistols. . .
by the way that objective marker is awesome !!
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Yes, it's a couple holstered pistols from the pistolier/outrider set, and the sword rack I think came in the helblaser/helstorm kit.
There's a lot of good bits in both kits.
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So they are. I like the sword rack, but the hand-gun-sized pistols are just too much for me. :icon_smile:
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Great work as always. Just doesn't seem to have the same amount of variety or colours than the swordsmen that really makes them look like a bunch of paid mercs or merchants. Sorry can't be bothered reading through the previous posts. If I'm way off ignore my comments. :P Keep it up.
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pikes! yaahooooo! I love pikes, 2 or 3 big blocks of pikes and a couple of stanks and we could rule the world. Or at least a significant portion of it. Good job on everything. thanks for sharing. steveb
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So they are. I like the sword rack, but the hand-gun-sized pistols are just too much for me. :icon_smile:
They are a bit large. But between the real handguns I saw at the museum when the exhibit from the Graz armoury came to town, and the replicas I got to hold at Historicon a few years ago... well, the real world pistols are pretty big.
Great work as always. Just doesn't seem to have the same amount of variety or colours than the swordsmen that really makes them look like a bunch of paid mercs or merchants. Sorry can't be bothered reading through the previous posts. If I'm way off ignore my comments. :P Keep it up.
They're painted for a Burgundian Ordonnance historical army, but I'm using them with the Marienburgers as mercenaries. I do have some landsknecht pikemen that I will eventually get to. I posted a little bit about this here:
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=24173.0
pikes! yaahooooo! I love pikes, 2 or 3 big blocks of pikes and a couple of stanks and we could rule the world. Or at least a significant portion of it. Good job on everything. thanks for sharing. steveb
Thanks!
Yes, I'm on a pike kick. I think that's what I'd like to work on next, is more pikemen and eventually enough to have a full DoW army to go against or ally with the Marienburgers. With lots of cool looking pikemen -- even if they are getting outclassed in WFB. :|
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Those pikemen are great!
How did you make the pikes?
Where did you get the figures for them?
I really like the color scheme used with painting them, and I like how you pulled it off, again, with these.
I've got so much I'm working on currently that it will be awhile before I model something like this, but I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for more inspiration. :icon_cool: :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
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Thanks the pictures ZeroTwentythree - really great looking figures again ( now just take all those pictures that I previously demanded and everyone will be happy - everyone being me obviously !! :biggriin:)
Just out of curiosty - how do you store and transport the pike men without
a) bending or breaking the pikes ?
b) Impaling your hand on the pike block ?? :-o
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How did you make the pikes?
Where did you get the figures for them?
Here's someone else's spear/pike tutorial. It's basically the same thing I do:
http://www.displacedminiatures.com/Igwarg/gallery/605/
The figures are Front Rank. There's a link and scale comparisons in that other thread I liked to a couple of replies back.
Just out of curiosty - how do you store and transport the pike men without
a) bending or breaking the pikes ?
b) Impaling your hand on the pike block ?? :-o
The bases are all magnetized, and there is a sheet of metal on the movement tray, so they all stick in place on the movement tray. There's also magnet on the bottom of the movement tray, and metal lining the bottom of my carrying box, so nothing slides around.
I wish I had an answer to the impaling question, but I don't. :icon_eek: I also have to remember not to wear sweaters when playing pike armies, because the figures end up getting hooked on my sleeves when I reach over them!
I'll see what I can do about the close-up pics.
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More stuff! Little of it is Marienburg, though. First is an anvil commission...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/34a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/34b.jpg)
I've still got the forge to paint.
Next, a few more objective counters...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/34c.jpg)
And a WIP Marienburg hero, borrowed from Averland. (He's Averland's elector, right? Or am I remembering wrong?)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/34d.jpg)
I've got the swordsmen underway. Only as couple weeks to finish about 20 of them left to go before the Marauder GT. And a standard bearer. And a display tray (ideally.)
I've also realized that I've been stockpiling 5th ed. state troops without a real plan. I'll have to count, but I know I've got one of the boxes of 19, plus possibly one box each of the old ones that came with metal crossbows or handguns. I don't think I really need many missile troops for general gaming, but maybe for sieges & such. Or maybe convert a unit of pikemen. I'll have to think about it.
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Yeah you are correct.
This is Averland's former crazy elector count Marius Leitdorf.
He looks good in non black-yellow.
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I haven't actually decided what colors to paint him yet. He's been sitting on my desk in the above state for at least a month now. :|
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Should you wish to part with some of those 5th ed. models, let me know... :icon_wink:
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O my god i have the same idea about the Marienburger hero, but the paintwork of the bleu is allready excellent :eusa_clap:
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Wonderful paint job on the Dwarf anvil .
Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff .
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I've patiently and greedily horded these state troops and intend to keep them. Nice try, though. :-P
I count about 45, possibly a few more if I mix in some militia bits and a few metal command figures. On second thought, I don't think I'll bother with the pikemen, I can just use historical figures for that and GW seems to be (mistakenly, IMHO) burying DoW and pikemen anyway.
I think it will be best to just make a third parent unit and 2 more detachments of swordsmen. That way I can run 3 swordsmen units instead of 2 swords and 1 greatswords. Also, for larger games I can (when they're all painted) field parent units of: 3 swordsmen, 2 spearmen and 1 greatsword, plus their detachments. :-D
One comment I forgot to make above... I picked up and have been trying out Badab Black and Delvan Mud washes. Overall, I like them One thing about the black though is that it really dirties up my neutral/cool greys. It's got a definite warm/brown tone to it. I frequently like a cooler grey, so I will not be using the wash exclusively. However, I do really like it on some things, particularly the GW silver metalics. I still plan on picking up some more of the washes in the near future.
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Yeah you are correct.
This is Averland's former crazy elector count Marius Leitdorf.
He looks good in non black-yellow.
Ah, so that's who he is. I have him currently in all gold, like most of my army (little bit of silver) he looks good there too, and the painting looks esy enough to do, i hope because i can't paint :(
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@ZeroTwentythree
Your Army is really impressive :eusa_clap:
Great paintjobs and conversions .... BUT .... i really do not like those blue knights :icon_frown:
I think this is the most beautiful empire army i've ever seen :blush: ... exept the knights :icon_redface:
I'd really like to show some of my minis but i first need a digicam ... comming soon :icon_razz:
:::cheers:::
... Marienburg gehört dem Imperium :icon_rolleyes:
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I finished Marius Captain General of Marienburg.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/35a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/35b.jpg)
Also a standard bearer for the unit of swordsmen I'm trying to finish in time for Marauders.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/35c.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/35d.jpg)
I made the standard with plasticard & plastic tube, like on Imperial Forge's page (Is it down? I was going to post a link!)
Ideally I'd like to add something else, either a lion or some nautical blazon, or possibly just s simple cross of St. Andrew (like on landsknecht banners) But since I'm on a tight schedule to finish in time for the GT, I'm OK with this for now.
So here's a few of above mentioned swordsmen I mentioned, along with one "swordsdwarf" who will be in a dedicated "swordsdwarf" detachment. Eventually when I finish painting all the figures, I will have a parent unit of "speardwarfs" with detachments of "swordsdwarfs" and "handgunnerdwarfs." :-D
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/35e.jpg)
I still need to finish some details on the bases.
So, I've got less than 10 days left an still have 8 swordsmen half finished, and 10 more swordsmen about 20% finished. :ph34r: Doesn't seem like alot, but I've been moving slow lately, so I'm worried. And I also have a display board to build! :ph34r:
http://marauders-inc.com/
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Hey Zero,
These minis are fabulous! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
I really like the color choices for the standard bearer.
Marcus
Looking at them again, I have to say that these are spectacular.
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Man oh man, you just keep up the good stuff. I really don't have much else to say thatn I have before, you just don't let things slip up, but the runes on the sword are extremely 'osome. I've just been spoiled by your awesome painting, so the other beautiful things like the armour look standard.
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As Marcus has already said fabulous figures - just cannot decide if I like the standard bearer or the swordsdwarf best - oh what the heck they are both awesome .
And if you let me rant for just a moment I think it shows just how poor ( IMO ) the current range of Empire plastic and metal figs compared not only to the two metal figs but also the oop 5th/6th edition plastics - when I see them painted this well I wish they were still on sale and that we hadn't had the ugly skull boys forced upon us . Here endeth the rant ! :smile2:
Good luck with getting the rest finished Zero and good luck at the tourney - let us know how it goes .
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And if you let me rant for just a moment I think it shows just how poor ( IMO ) the current range of Empire plastic and metal figs compared not only to the two metal figs but also the oop 5th/6th edition plastics - when I see them painted this well I wish they were still on sale and that we hadn't had the ugly skull boys forced upon us .
I agree, though some of those collectors models and other newer metal figures look pretty good. (Though I don't have any of them. Yet.)
The standard bearer, musician and dwarf are all from the old Marauder line. I was just commenting elsewhere that although I don't care for some of the Morrisons' sculpting, I think some of the Marauder figures are still some of the best figures to come out of GW to date. The standard and musician above are two examples. There are still some I'm actively hunting for.
Speaking of old miniatures... Guess who just stopped in at the little game shop across town and scored another box of the 5th/6th ed. plastic state troops! :mrgreen: I may go back in a few weeks, they had some of the mounted wizards and elector counts. (Probably a decent start on a Kislev army sitting on their shelves as well.) I also nabbed a copy of "Loathsome Ratmen and the Vile Kin," which I've been failing at getting on eBay, uh, forever. ::heretic:: No luck on a copy of "Marienburg: Sold Down the River" though. :-(
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Marius Leitdorf looks amazing. I think he's the best Empire mounted character model by a long way. Wonderful painting once again.
The standard bearer, musician and dwarf are all from the old Marauder line. I was just commenting elsewhere that although I don't care for some of the Morrisons' sculpting, I think some of the Marauder figures are still some of the best figures to come out of GW to date
Yes, they are. The spear-armed dwarfs are the best dwarfs that have ever existed.
I also nabbed a copy of "Loathsome Ratmen and the Vile Kin,"
I've got that. It's rubbish. :icon_smile:
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AAhhhh the old puffy sleeve guys :happy:....boy i miss them models :icon_cry: :icon_cry: :icon_cry:
Zak
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The captain on horse looks again asum!! Bravo :::cheers:::
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As said over at warseer, you got some wonderful stuff, really excellent.
How is your tower advancing?
Vivendi
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Great looking army 023...for a Marienburger. :::cheers:::
That 'sword dwarf', is that one of the old Citadel minis? I've been on the look out for some good Imperial dwarfs.
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...for a Marienburger.
:-P
That 'sword dwarf', is that one of the old Citadel minis? I've been on the look out for some good Imperial dwarfs.
It's an old Marauder/Citadel figure.
He is the "captain" in the regiment below. The regiment came in what I believe they called a blister box (bigger than the regular blister packs, but smaller than the boxes...) and you got like 12 figures, 4 were command. So if you wanted a unit of like 20-25 guys, you ended up with extra command figures. So I'm making creative use of them. The champion makes an obvious choice for another sword dwarf. I've also converted one of the standard bearers to be holding a shield (buckler) in the hand shown waving the standard. I've also got a couple other figures, I think mostly from the same (Marauder) range. I'll post pics of the full detachment when I'm done.
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mb01dwarfs.htm
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The search continues...
Thanks for letting me know. Look forward to seeing the rest.
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You know... *whispers* I've had this long-term plan of sculpting a bunch of landsknecht dwarves and potentially casting them. I've got thumbnail sketches and the first few figures framed & bulked out for some greatswords. Not even a face on them, yet, though. :unsure:
Unfortunately, at my rate of distraction, I'll finish them sometime around my 173rd birthday.
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Your ideas intrigue me, sir...I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. :wink:
If you do get around to that, definitely let me know, please. :::cheers:::
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Sign me up for that newsletter too! I too would like to know how you plan on making it to your 173rd birthday!
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Quick post before I'm off to Marauders Mayhem. I hit the road to Dayton in about 2 hours and I've just finished my somewhat rushed display board. It's not as nice as I had originally planned, but I was on ultra-tight schedule with it. Also, the flocking came out strangely splotchy.
A couple of quick pics before I pack it in the SteamCelica:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/36a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/36b.jpg)
Wish me luck. I've only won like 3 games since the last GT at the beginning of summer. I've got a whole pile of draws and losses just waiting to be balanced out by a good tournament showing. Or something. I can dream... :unsure:
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I really like it
GOOD LUCK :mrgreen: :::cheers:::
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Good Luck!!!!!!! :-)
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Congrats on your awards at Marauder! :::cheers:::
js
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And how did it go? Any change of your army in full glory on the field of the board?
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You must have won this- your opponents couldn't have concentrated with such a splendid army facing them.
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Thanks all!
Not alot of time right now, but I did pretty well - better than expected! I just put a few comments up my blog for now... http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/
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Oh yeah! Best painted all the way baby!
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Congrats on the Best Painted Award! :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
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Great job! Everything is really beautiful
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Well done Zero :eusa_clap:
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Guess who finally won something on ebay?
:mrgreen:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/swgn.jpg)
They look like this: http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm14dwfswivel.htm and will go nicely with my other Imperial dwarfs. For some reason these guys eluded me for ages.
I've still got to figure out how to actually use them in standard games. One option is to try mounting them on a multi-base to represent several handguners. Or maybe I should build some sort of dwarf vessel in the pay of Marienburg? (Ironclad? Steam-Wagon? Dirigible?)
I'm just happy I won anything on ebay. Only the second time it's happened. I guess I'm a cheap bastard. :wink:
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Are those regular dwarf crew or chaos dwarves? Mine came with chaos...
But I use them to repel boarders!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playtable/2945209895/
:smile2:
Congrats on the winning bid!
js
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Sweet ships!!
Now I want to do naval battles. What rules do you use?
These are regular dwarfs in Empire style clothes, like some of the other figures I've posted.
I know the chaos swivel gun you're probably thinking of. I have that one too (and the mortar and the bazooka.) This is a different one, though.
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Sweet ships!!
Now I want to do naval battles. What rules do you use?
These are regular dwarfs in Empire style clothes, like some of the other figures I've posted.
I know the chaos swivel gun you're probably thinking of. I have that one too (and the mortar and the bazooka.) This is a different one, though.
Oh mate, don't get me started! We use primarily GC rules, with a bunch of house rules. In that battle we added swivel guns also from the GC but the siege section...
For more on ships look here
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=25036.0
Mr NK was always talking about doing an Empire Pirate army. I'd bug him if you're looking for someone else to catch the ship craze... If you can pry him away from his Dark Elves!
There was a mortar? For a youngin' you got all the cool stuff!
:biggriin:
(Thanks for not pointing out that I missed the link you provided in your original post...) :blush:
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There was a mortar? For a youngin' you got all the cool stuff!
:biggriin:
Youngin'? Heh. Thanks.
Actually I got all the chaos dwarf stuff and probably 70% of my empire-looking dwarfs back when they were brand new. :wink:
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Is there any chance that we can better pictures of the units? :blush:
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very nicley painted, i love all the different colours. Good job mate :eusa_clap:
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Is there any chance that we can better pictures of the units? :blush:
At some point I'll see if I can maybe try doing an illustrated army list, unit by unit, or something like that. Right now I'm in a painting mood, so I'm going to take advantage of that as much as I can. :-D
I've been working on my historicals, but as I've previously commented, I'll include some of them here when relevent. I have used some of my previously painted pikemen in my Empire army, for example. So on to some new ones... Other than the bases and some standards (and finding a few command figures to add to the unit!) I'm done with the first unit of 25 Low Countries pikemen. I've got mixed feelings on the figures, but have already gone over that at my dedicated blog thing (link in sig.)
But I will post pics!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/burg09a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/burg09b.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/burg09c.jpg)
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Those pikes look super! :icon_cool: :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
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Awesome! Great pikes man, awesome conversion. It's clear that they can fight in 4 ranks all right :D I love the painting also
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Great stuff! :eusa_clap:
No doubt they are pikes huh :happy:
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And again VERY WELL DONE :::cheers::: Keep up the good work
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Good looking pikes! Make sure your tetnis shot is up to date just in case.
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No kidding! I lost track of how many scrapes and holes I had on my hands & arms just from painting them.
I think my mistake was having them face me on the desk. Next time, I will have them facing sideways while I work. And in games, I'm hoping they will always face the enemy. Let my opponent get stabbed!
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lovely, keep up the great work!
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Quick update. Just a couple pics of some of my Burgundians now equipped with Imperial Forge's new banners. There's a more detailed review at my blog (link in sig.)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/BurgOrd10b.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/BurgOrd10a.jpg)
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Amazing!
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Oh, I really hate you now.
QFT. Damn, I could kill for those banners!
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So.... Beautifully.... oh my.... :icon_cry: you make me ashamed of my miniatures...
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:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
More great figures there - thanks for sharing them .
Just to ask - who makes the mounted figures ( and how do the horses compare with GW warhorses in scale ) ?
And I agree with the other comments - nice looking banners ( could we get Imperial Forge to do some Empire banners please ? ) .
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Whoops. My links in the mini comparison thread are screwed up. I'll fix that later. In the meantime, here's some comparisons:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/cavcomp4.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/cavcomp3.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/CAVCOMP2.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/CAVCOMP1.jpg)
The cavalry in the pic above are mostly Crusader, but a few Front Rank as well. The Front Rank figure in the comparison pics here looks a bit smaller because it's unarmoured. The barded ones are still a slight bit smaller than the Crusader, but when mixed up in a unit I don't notice it. The Crusader figure I used in the comparison pic was probably not the best choice, since it's the tallest of the bunch (very upright horse and rider sitting high.)
I use those Front Rank medium cavalry (Coustilliers, Hobilars, whatever you call them) as DoW Light Cavalry in my Empire army and they mix well. They're a bit small to mix in the same unit, but in a different unit in the same army they seem fine to me.
The figures from both Crusader and Front Rank are both from each company's Wars of the Roses ranges.
Thanks for all the compliments guys. I'm taking a brief break from Empire figures, though I'm starting to prep some heroes (pegasus, griffin, etc.) for a bit of variety. Still working on some Burgundians (& Low Countries) though, so I may post some more of that soon. Maybe an army shot.
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Thanks for the reply - I should have thought of going to the alternative figures list myself .
Look forward to seeing whatever you choose to post next .
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mmm 023 work. So delicious to look at. The banners are simply amazing.
sj
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I like the fact that the halberdier banner says "Plus que vous" ! Are you insisting that you have the outnumber bonus ? :biggriin:
For all those that are ignorant of the meaning of this french sentence, and so that they may gain knowledge of the meaning of this special banner and bathe in its glory, "Plus que vous" means "More than you".
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It's a historical banner & a Burgundian motto. I'd like to think the implication is that they are more manly than their opponents. :mrgreen: "Je Lay Emprins" is a more common motto on many of the other Burgundian banners.
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Love those alternate knight miniatures, especially the horses. Almost convinced to get them. Could you post a picture of a painted one (crusader) beside a painted GW knight as i find the scale is sometimes hard to compare when unpainted?
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Excellent work 023, my Empire amry, dwarfed as it is by yours, is also doubling up for historicals HRE/Imperial German
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More excellent stuff 023, and posting the comparisons is very useful, thanks! :::cheers:::
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hell ... where you got those great Gothic Knights from? *NEEED*
Much better then the GW ones.
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The ones at the top of the page?
A mix of:
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=16&page=1
and
http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_2_WOR_Cavalry.asp
and
http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_3_WOR_Personalities_&_Casualties.asp
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Wow -- long time with no updates.
Not a big one, just a couple spur of the moment artillery pieces.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/38b.jpg)
That's an oldschool Volleygun. I've never used one before, but figured since I was painting other artillery, I may as well do it too in case I want to try it out.
Also an oldschool metal mortar. Not as old as the old oldschool one I already had painted, which was the small one on a flat carriage with no wheels. I've also got one of the newer ones, made with the plastic kit. I think. Somewhere. I don't know, I never really use them.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/38a.jpg)
I also painted these for my medievals, but thought I would post them here as well. A light Burgundian gun and an organ gun. Both a little more realistically scaled than the beasts above. They were taken from the same distance and the photos scaled the same, so you should be able to get an idea of the scale. Those are 40mm round bases they're on. The organ gun barrels are similar size to the Volley Gun. The light gun barrel is slightly larger, close to the size of the Bronzino Galloper Guns.
So, that brings my Empire artillery park up to a total of:
4 Cannons
3 Mortars
2 Rockets
1 Volley Gun
That doesn't include the medieval stuff, the GW Galloper Guns (recently picked up, still not painted,) the old "Empire" dwarf cannons and swivel guns, or the old GW Nippon rocket launcher & crew. I should be good on artillery for a while. :-D
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Amazing stuff 023. I really like how you make the models look like an army despite the different colour schemes and miniatures. I heart your banners especially. :eusa_clap:
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This is a fantastic collection of models sir! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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a man after my own heart, love the big boom and the moans when I hit. You really should experiment a little with a pair of mortars and 2 cannon target both mortars at the same spot hitting a unit with that 5 inch template twice and then shooting a cannon through it once or twice can really mess up your opponents day, if you take an engineer or two with pigeon bombs they can correct any problems with mortar or artileery fire, if no problem they can target choice figures in a unit and make your opponents day complete. :biggriin: steveb
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I would fire the cannons first, so they hit before ranks are reduced for mortar casualties.
I'm actually contemplating trying that out. Or something similar. Not certain yet.
The problems are:
1. S3 mortars are not terribly effective against the tougher sorts of troops. There are a lot of heavy cav, sauruses, dwarfs, even orcs who can shrug off mortar shots.
2. The ever present problem of how to budget your special slots in an Empire army. 2 cannons and 1 mortar leaves me 1 slot free. How to spend that? A second mortar? Greatswords? Pistoliers? Inner Circle? Tough call.
What about a couple units of swrodsmen with detatchments, a couple of knights, 2 cannons, 2 moartars, 2 rockets. For characters an AL on a WAlter, a lv. 1 or 2 wizard, and a pair of engineers with pigeons. Alternately swap out one engineer for a second wizard or priest.
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there is all of that for sure, but it is still pretty effective, the 5 inch template is bound to make a few hits even on the strongest. there is one other thing to consider; the enemy is going to make an effort to nail the grand battery, usually. this in a way lets you know how he is going to approach contact. with the cannons on either flank you can cover your flanks with two small units, maybe one flaggies and one archer skirmish to slow down any charges, you want to have them out far enough so that a flee move wont carry them back into the guns, but close enough so that the cannons can pivot and deliver grape shop. Also since fliers are usually used to attack the guns, take with special characters two orbs of thunder, prevents the other player from using any fliers and as a bought magic item only costs 10pts, cheap protection, I suggest 2 because one might be compromised you still have back up. anyway just a thought. steveb
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A little something I'm working on... slowly... very slowly...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/39a.jpg)
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War wagons are the best thing ever.
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War wagons are the best thing ever.
Aaaaaaaand he's baaaaaack ! *rimshot*
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I feel like I have just seen a time portal back to the mid 90's, I can't wait to see the rest of the crew. While I can't deny the war wagon was a bit ridiculous I do miss them for some reason.
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God Bless You Zero!
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*War wagon!* *War wagon!* *War wagon!*
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Vaguely Marienburg related, but since I am plan to actually field her in that army, I figured I'd put this in ye olde plogge.
After searching and amassing a giant collection of dog figures, I've finally painted one of them up. This is the closest figure I could find to represent my Shepherd/Husky, Sasha.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/sasha01.jpg)
It's still a bit larger scale than she is in real life. But it was the best match. I think it's a Ral Partha figure.
She's mounted on a 20x40 base so she can be put along side my self portrait figure in an infantry unit.
I also semi-edited the list of figures in the first post. That was a revised list from a little while ago and still might not be 100% accurate.
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From the list.. 13 birdmen!!
:D
Conversions or the originals?
What will they be used as? Actual birdmen?
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023, that's freaky. I just bought those dogs myself I think.
And even if it was a different company, I intend to use them in exactly the same way, on two infantry bases, sort of a mini unit filler.
I doubt I'll paint them up as good as that though, that's great painting.
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I'm already getting geared up for the Treachery and Greed campaign. So in a burst of inspiration, I finally finished the small unit of ogre mercenaries I apparently started over three years ago. :icon_eek:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/41a.jpg)
More life out of this plog soon. I want to play some big campaign games this year, and I may try to host some games as a neutral GM supplying both armies.
From the list.. 13 birdmen!!
:D
Conversions or the originals?
What will they be used as? Actual birdmen?
Actual birdmen. I might try getting rid of one sealed box on eBay to fund some other, more practical, purchases.
023, that's freaky. I just bought those dogs myself I think.
And even if it was a different company, I intend to use them in exactly the same way, on two infantry bases, sort of a mini unit filler.
I doubt I'll paint them up as good as that though, that's great painting.
Thanks. My dog was actually laying down next to my painting desk as I was working on the figure, so I just kept looking over at her for reference. :icon_mrgreen:
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"023, that's freaky. I just bought those dogs myself I think."
No, what is beginning to get really bizarre are the number of things I share in common with 023. On a number of posts, we have had the same train of thought. And now this. I had a German Shepherd named Freya who looked very like that figure. Sadly she passed away last year after a long life but I have been looking for a figure that I could paint up to add to my army.
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I have those ogres... but mine don't look anything like as good as those.
Yours look amazing.
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Love those Halberdy ones.
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The one on the left is my favourite! :)
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Liking the looks of that war wagon. :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
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I just love this mixed army, and the ogres looks so grim.
:::cheers:::
fbjorn
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I'm working on 100 things at once, it seems. But this is one of the Empire related items. Its been assembled for a while, but I'm finally getting the urge to paint it up!
I've removed/left off a lot of the extras and the KF and Imperial iconography. I'm thinking about using the plain hull as a "canvas" to paint a bit of Marienburg themed art.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/42-stank.jpg)
Also did this...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/ogun.jpg)
...for my medievals, but it will come in handy for the summer campaign! This is actually the second of two that came in a pack.
Just for completeness, I'll repost this pic that I included elsewhere...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/burgord/burgord12.jpg)
...since they will see use in my Marienburg & mercenary company armies.
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Those knights are awesome! Where are they from?
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I love the tank! And you angry flaming polar bear bombs. Model those.
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The knights are from Old Glory's Wars of the Roses range. They're a bit smaller than the GW knights (as are most other companies'.) I'll get a new comparison pic up at some point showing them next to GW and some of the other historicals. I'm going to paint up a Perry WotR figure for comparison first.
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More WIP on the Imperial Armoured Company. I've previously mentioned making "inserts" for the war wagon, so that I can swap out its roll as a War Alter, War Wagon (under various versions of the rules) or, in this case, a Non-Steam Tank. So it's equipped with a cannon, an engineer with his repeater, and his intern with a blunderbuss (counts as the steam gun.)
The two crew will be glued to the floor of the final, removable insert. I considered putting an armoured roof on it, but I'm not certain I really want to do that.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/42-02.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/42-03.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/42-04.jpg)
Next I'd like to work on the WAlter insert. I've got a giant sea shell for a background, a couple banners, a platform and then I just need to convert a "High Priest" (counts as arch lector) of Manann.
But really, I'd like to paint this stuff up first.
I also still need to paint a "mural" on the actual STank model. The engineer for that is also in progress... still trying to figure out what to do with his arms. Also need to work on the base.
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That cannon would need to be a breach-loader though, surely... plus it's a bit on the big side.
The inserts are a good idea. I do the same thing!
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That cannon would need to be a breach-loader though, surely... plus it's a bit on the big side.
Yeah, I figured that about the breech loader. I stopped myself when I was about to put some of the loading equipment on it.
As far as the size, I'm not too bothered by it. It's still similar in size to the one on the actual STank, and it's what I had available.
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023 reducing the size of that cannon is simple as 123 :icon_lol: What I mean is, just cut the front of the barrel from exactly behind the muzzle & exactly in its the midsection. Pull that piece out & just stick the muzzle back on the remaining mid & aft sections. There, you just have a dwarf cannon that way & you used the cannon you had without further hassle. Anyway I like your concept & paintjobs.
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Not a bad idea. I'd probably rather shorten the back end, though, so the barrel still projects quite a bit out the front.
I still need to work on a support/adjustment arc for the back of the cannon anyway, so I may just rework that back half. It will, unfortunately, mean detaching the cannon again. :-(
When you mentioned "dwarf cannon" you just sparked some inspiration: I think my next project will be an Imperial Dwarf STank!
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When you mentioned "dwarf cannon" you just sparked some inspiration: I think my next project will be an Imperial Dwarf STank!
Using the Dwarf BloodBowl Death Roller as the front 'wheel'?
Awesome...
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If I had one! Actually, it would probably be a bit small. I think I could make my own, anyway.
Not sure on a design yet, anyway. I'm thinking that it should be a bit over the top, though. Like the dwarfs decided that they need to show the upstart humans some real engineering. :wink:
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I really like the paintjob of the woodwork and the metallic on the warwagon and steamtank! :eusa_clap:
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Exactly how many models do you plan to make with the war wagon 023?
I only just finished striping my old one.
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Exactly how many models do you plan to make with the war wagon 023?
I only just finished striping my old one.
The plan is to have at least 3 "inserts" for the war wagon:
- Non-Steam Tank
- War Altar
- War Wagon
The last is a low priority, since I can temporarily stick some crew in the WWg without needing a special base (though it doesn't look as good.)
I'm hoping to get the crew for the non-steam tank done soon. The rest is done. But I just haven't had time this past week.
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More updates!
I've been dying to work on this stuff some more, but really haven't had the time lately.
The War Wagon non-Steam Tank is done except for the second crewman I'd like to add. The "stock" STank is done except the hull. I want to smooth out the blue on the hull a bit, and then paint a mural on both sides. I'm working on a couple of ideas (on paper) for some fantasy nautical themes.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/43-01.jpg)
Here's a shot of the War Wagon insert removed...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/43-02.jpg)
They're at least painted enough where I can put them on the table and not feel guilty about using "unpainted" stuff. :wink:
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Excellent going! :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
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I see moldlines on the cannonbarrel ;)
Other than that, great work.
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I see moldlines on the cannonbarrel ;)
Other than that, great work.
You're like the moldline nazi, I think thats the only comment you ever give me...."ben...mouldlines...deal with them"
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Then why don't you deal with them?
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cause i'm a lazy bastard.
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Very nice... though I still think that gun is too big to fit in the war wagon. I feel very sorry for the engineer, since he will probably be killed by the recoil when it fires. If he ever manages to load it.
The gold looks really shiny though!
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Very nice... though I still think that gun is too big to fit in the war wagon. I feel very sorry for the engineer, since he will probably be killed by the recoil when it fires. If he ever manages to load it.
I thought about that some more and decided I was just too lazy to do anything about it, then rationalized my laziness by noting that it's the same sized gun (and arrangement) as in the STank, and reminded myself that it's a fantasy game.
I see moldlines on the cannonbarrel ;)
Not a mold line. That's the joint between the two halves of the barrel. I tried smoothing it out with plastic cement and liquid solvent, but they still show. If someone has some good advice on how to deal with the joints, I'd love to hear!
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love that wagon!!! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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Now that you mention it, it is indeed the joint (as it is with the one on the stank). My solution for that is to put in a little line of greenstuff instead of glue, and press the halves really hard so the greenstuff comes out a little. Then cut that off like you would do with a mould line.
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All cannon joints are a pain in the neck though (also the ones from the carriage etc.) so I wouldn't worry too much about them.
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That's a good idea. I'll try that next time. Same with the joints on some of the GW plastic horses (not the ancient armoured Empire horses, though!) Some of them really show up and I've never been able to get them to look right by sticking greenstuff on after the horses are already assembled. Sounds like your idea would work well with those too.
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Yeah, it's worked wonders on those as well. That's where I got the idea from actually- my cannons are from before I thought of it, so they've also got the joint problem.
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and reminded myself that it's a fantasy game.
Honestly, you'd think that was the answer to everything.
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Like the wagon a lot. Outstanding! Stanks pretty good too.
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Repainted one of my oldschool wizards.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/43-03.jpg)
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That staff has a hand pointing on it fills me with giggles.
Nicely done, and red as always (Yes, I know not everything you paint is red, the blue stuff up there for example. It's just I find your red to be very memorable)
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I like that wizard! The painting and the model. :icon_cool: :eusa_clap:
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Realized I must not have posted my other two mages here. I think I may have done them before I started this plog. I think I posted them in the magic tactica image request thread.
At any rate, for comparison and completenes, here are the other two on foot, prior to being based:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/wz02b.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/wz01b.jpg)
I am working on two mounted mages. One is Lucrezzia (already started painting), the other is the old 4th/5th ed. pope hat looking guy. The latter came without a horse. So I'm going to try putting some barding on a pistolier horse for him (wish me luck -- I'm not too confident.)
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Look at my tread 023 as I am trying the same thing. I hope you get inspired from it & inspire me in turn as I am right now doing a new prototype :happy:
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Nice wizards! I like the merchant-y one.
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Two more cool wizards! :icon_biggrin: :eusa_clap:
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Another classic wizard. I've been in that sort of a mood, it seems.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/43-04.jpg)
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excellent paint job! I do love the character that shines through in those old metal figs. steveb
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Lol. You've got to tell me what that champion in your unit of swordsmen is from. The orange and blue one with a pistol and feather hat.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/swd21a.jpg)
Grudgie
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It's an early nineties metal champion/hero.
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He's here:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92356empcommand-02.htm
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He's here:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat9x3/c92356empcommand-02.htm
Those are amongst my favourite figures ever produced by any company anywhere.
Id pay Goldsword price to get a set of them now.
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Man i hear you , to be able to go back into time and purchase these guys once again ....specially at those prices ...lol
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Very awesome army dude! I'm building a Marienburg army too. This gives me a lot of ideas! I like the preists of Manaan too! :::cheers::: If I thought I had the guts to do it, I'd paint my guys up in different colors too. :eusa_clap: Bravo!
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It is a very beautiful army. Lots of individual character and skillfully painted. I would like to see how you painted your pikemen. Ya know...Marienburg...pikemen, the two go hand in hand. I have been thinking about putting some together and would like some inspiration. :smile2:
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I've got a pile of Foundry, Artizan, Old Glory and converted plastic GW pikemen waiting for me to get some time to work on them.
I'm also trying to find enough additional figures to finish off a unit of Pirazzo's Lost Legion, for something a little different.
I did do a few sample figures for comparison in the first summer campaign newsletter:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/pike01.jpg)
If you right click and select "view image" (or whatever the Apple equivalent is...) that pic will appear larger.
(Check the newsletter for comments, pics of handgunners, and my ::heretic:: Skaven ::heretic:: pikemen.)
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I'm painting my Greatswords and Knights in individual colors to look like mercenaries. The rest of the army is traditional Marienburg state colors. :biggriin:
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I can't remember if I posted these elsewhere. I don't see them in my plog, so here they are!
I painted them up a while ago to use for a scenario (and playtest) for the Treachery & Greed campaign.
The way I figure it, you've got to have "Stuff" if you're going to have "Greed."
First, a couple of old GW wagons with horses of unknown origin.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/TnG/wg2.jpg)
Second, a couple of wagons from Front Rank Figures
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/TnG/wg1.jpg)
And lastly some livestock. I think most of it is from Gripping Beast. The sheep might be from Irregular Miniatures, but I'm not certain.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/TnG/lvstock.jpg)
Still figuring out what to do about putting some removable stuff/loot/treasure in the wagons.
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Cool wagons! I've really enjoyed looking at this blog. Loverly paint schemes painted very well.
If you want to put treasure in the back why don't you measure the inside of the wagon and contruct a base out of plasticard that can be removed at will.
Like your Warwagon/sTank.
Hope that helps,
Mark
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WOW!!!
I've just read thru your blog - what a wonderful army ( or should that be armies ? ) you have there.
:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap
Your Marienburg army and The Drunken Halfling's Averland army take joint first place for my favourite army one this site ( no offence to any one else ).
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Wagons are cool. :::cheers:::
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What an insane thread...just blowing my mind...very impressive collection and excellent paint job. I love that you are willing to use other manufacturers for your army....some of those pikemen you have in your comparison shot fit very well!
Earlier in the post you mentioned Dayton...are you in Ohio? My home town...I'm in Vermont now.
Cheers,
Blue
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I live in Cleveland, but twice a year there's an "Indy GT" tournament in Dayton, Marauder's Mayhem. I've been going to one or the other (Fall or Spring) for the past few years. It's at a place called Krystal Keep.
My wife and I have friends in Dayton, so we head down early, visit, and this last time I finally got to the Airforce museum for the first time since I was a kid.
http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/search/label/Marauders%20Mayhem
http://www.marauders-inc.com/
Thanks for the compliments, guys. I've been pretty anxious to start back on some Empire stuff, but have been a little busy.
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Arise my loyal plog, and walk among the living once more...
I find myself suddenly unemployed. So I've hit the painting desk full time, mostly working on commissions to bring in some income. But I'm going to be squeezing in a few of my own figures when I can. For now, I quickly finished one figure that's been on my desk for years, converted and the flesh done, but that's it.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/cbconv1.jpg)
I'm not even sure where/how I got the figure, but the front half of the handgun was broken off, so I converted him to a crossbowman with a bit from the militia set. I didn't think about the little shot canisters hanging from his belt until after I started painting them, but I think that if he gets tucked away into a back rank, it won't be that noticeable.
So there we have it... ONE figure since July, it seems. More on the horizon.
EDIT: Actually, I need to contemplate what to paint next. I've got about 10 handgunners in various stages of paintedness. I think I will finish them up just to have them done. At that point, I will be at 40 of them, so I think that should be good for a bit. The two thinks I'm initially considering are a few more crossbowmen, to bring me up to meager 10, and maybe some more spear. At least enough spear to bring my 27 or so up to a nice even 30 figures, but maybe push that up to 40-50 figures in case I want to try a spear horde. Or maybe some pikemen that I can use as spear? I've got a bunch waiting for paint.
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[So there we have it... ONE figure since July, it seems. More on the horizon.
One very nice figure though. Sorry to hear about the loss of employment 023, I hope it doesn't last too long.
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great idea for an conversion, so simple but never thought of it...of corse dang good paint job :::cheers:::
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Those livestock models are awesome. I need to get me some of those to mix into the big militia unit I'm planning as unit fillers.
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OMG ARMAGEDDON TWO UPDATES IN ONE WEEK! ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/fhg01.jpg)
Some Foundry handgunners I squeezed in to my schedule. I've got a few more to finish.
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More excellent figures :eusa_clap:.
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The quality of the foundry minis is really nice and your paint-job make them shine.
Keep it up, I am your fan!
Prokix
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My only disappointment with the figures is the lack of variety in this pack. It's essentially 8 of the exact same body, but with headswaps. The pack of firing/loading handgunners was much better, each figure was unique. Even if they would have just altered a few details, that would have made them at least a little different. But yes, I love the Foundry landsknechts.
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Since I am now using a BSB regularly, as well as needing more infantry standards, I have decided to upgrade this standard bearer to BSB. At least for the moment:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/minix02.jpg)
So I need to paint up a few more. Not a huge priority at the moment, as I'm using some historicals as stand-ins so far.
But last night I was at a concert (in which my wife was one of the singers,) and one of the pieces being performed was Fauré's Requiem. The lyrics triggered a bit of inspiration that ties back to the standard above, and I tried to subtly slide my pencil out of my pocket and sketch up a couple ides without being too obvious about it. Here's a rough draft of the first one I think I will attempt. It will stick with the sun theme.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/nbannr1.jpg)
The trick will be to try to cut it all out of plasticard, then bend most of it while keeping the flag staff end totally straight.
I had also considered turning this sideways and trying to make a vertical banner that hangs from an upper crossbar. Converting a standard bearer for that may be more involved.
I could really use a few more of the old metal figures, like the one converted in the upper pic.
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A vertical banner would be nice for the Battle Standard Bearer, it would look more like an relic from a cathedral :blush:
Also, I'm glad you have returned to this log :smile2: And I hope you find a nice job soon :-)
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Trivia for the day...a flag that hangs straight down from a cross bar is called a "Gonfalon"
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Great concept flag, I've got to say, your updates to this thread never disappoint. Banners and flags are my favorite things to paint, I can't wait to see what you decide on!
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Trivia for the day...a flag that hangs straight down from a cross bar is called a "Gonfalon"
Thank you. I've heard that term plenty of times, but didn't know that was the actual definition. I will now remember that!
Painted an engineer. The first of several. Because like many other Empire Marienburg players I'm now using them in my army.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/eng01b.jpg)
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thanks for the inspiration 023, I am painting the same engineer right now and I was planning to go also for a white and green scheme. You excellent paint job will be a perfect guideline.
I especially like the monocle and the pendant, very crisp. Not so sure about the yellow part of the outfit, I feel like this additional primal colour is "too much" (don't get it wrong, your result is far better than anything I can achieve :biggriin:)
I will personally give a try to replace the raven by a pigeon for game perspective.
Porkix
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Ah, I love the engineer models.
And with your splendid painting this one looks grate.
Is it possible to get a closer look? I'm curious about how the eye glass was painted.
fbjorn
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I will personally give a try to replace the raven by a pigeon for game perspective.
Raven bombs.
When they hit the enemy, they quoth, "nevermore."
:mrgreen:
Is it possible to get a closer look? I'm curious about how the eye glass was painted.
I painted it like a gem. I tried to get a close up shot, but I also quickly painted a small example on a piece of paper and scanned it in, too.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/engface.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/lensept.jpg)
I've also managed to finish the second engineer. Marienburgers like to show off their wealth, and pigeons are so bourgeois...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/eng02a.jpg)
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Wow that second engineer, the blue is just Radiant!
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He actually has pigeon bombs!
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After yesterday's game, I decided to make some spell-specific markers for spell effects. I seem to have a fondness for the Lore of Life, so I've started there.
First a shot of my current Jade Wizard. To his left is the "Throne of Vines" maker, to the right is "Flesh to Stone." That's my poor attempt at making glowing eyes (using OSL) on a stone figure, my the way. Not altogether successful -- I may try to touch it up.
After I took the photo, I thought of a better Throne of Vines idea. I would need to model two separate mage figures. One normal one of him standing, the other of him actually sitting on a throne of vines. Then I swap them out as appropriate for his current status. Don't know that I'll ever get to that.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/vot-ftsmarkers.jpg)
And lastly, here's my take on "Shield of Thorns." Not terribly impressive, but gets the job done. I was thinking I wanted something low-key, but after putting it in front of the unit, I'm wondering if I should have made it much larger after all.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/sovmarker.jpg)
I've got to figure out what the next lore to tackle will be. I've taken Fire as a secondary, but have also been considering Beasts. Maybe one or both of those?
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Take for all winds :engel:
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The throne looks a bit like a penis.
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The throne looks a bit like a penis.
That was not my first thought, but now that you mention it!
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You people are weird.
If your junk looks like that, I recommend you make a doctor's appointment immediately.
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Hey now! I only confirmed the seed of thought that Obi planted! It looks nothing like my junk...
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When you put it there like that :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :engel:
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You people are weird.
If your junk looks like that, I recommend you make a doctor's appointment immediately.
It's the angle of photography.
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It's the angle of photography.
That's what she said.
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Some figures I painted just for fun. No real use for them, except maybe in a town scene as part of a battlefield. Still not sure if I will base them as normal or what I should do. They have large integral bases that make it difficult to do anything else, especially after I've painted the figures.
They are from Reaper Miniatures. One of the Townfolk packs. I've got one of the other packs, which has a beggar, blacksmith, and leggy young lady who may be perhaps selling something but I don't want to jump to any conclusions. The second three are primed up and ready to go. Not sure when I will paint them.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf01.jpg)
As far as my actual army updates...
I finished the BSB that I posed elsewhere as a WIP. I will get a photo of that soon. Same with basing my cannons and mortars.
In terms of what's next for the army, I'm thinking halberdiers are the priority. All I've got painted up are spear and swordsmen. I've got a number of boxes of old state troops stored away for just such a use. But now I am left with a bit of a dilemma. I had been considering painting up a second Empire army using those figures as the core. A Nordland army. Then I could run "civil war" Empire vs. Empire games at conventions, club game days, etc. using differently composed armies for Marienburg & Nordland. So do I put halberdiers together and paint them in Nordland colors, or continue with the Marienburg "landsknecht" look?
A third option is to hold off on those figures in the first place. I've got a unit of 30 metal billmen for the Wars of the Roses primed & based & ready to paint, plus a box of the Perry WotR plastics, which should be able to give me some more. I could do those for now. That would also save me on a lot of assembly for the moment, as well.
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Nice work, I have those as well, but I've yet to get around to painting them. It's nice to actually see them with a paint job.
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I had been considering painting up a second Empire army using those figures as the core. A Nordland army.
You bugger, I was thinking of starting a Nordland army. I'm reading the Liveship Traders trilogy and have been feeling all navaly. Nice townsfolk by the way.
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I think you should go for the historical stuff, and delay the decision making as long as possible. Mostly because I want to see your paintwork on the Perry lads (an all-plastic Swiss army looks viable... so tempting...).
But if you do want to go with the Empire, a Nordland contingent is a great idea- the two regions have close ties, and your Marienburgers have a lot of blues and yellows in their various colours, so they could even be used with the landsknechts if you wanted.
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I got a whole, huge, massive.... three figures painted!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/3sp.jpg)
I was working on some Empire figures for a commission and thought I'd throw a couple of my own into the pile as I was working, and paint them with the same colors. I just happened to have some spearmen on the table, so I grabbed three of them. And a drummer. (Still need to finish the drum -- will post him later.)
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Very, very beautiful. Interesting to see you combining both yellowish white and greyish white, it works well! Love the muted, warm colours. Any chance of seeing how you progress with your commission work, or do you normally not show that (per agreement or something)?
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This is one of my all time favorite threads....just Wonderful stuff on every page!
One quick question about the halberd you converted to a standard back about 10 pages....what size copper rod did you use for that>
I have a couple of damaged Halberds that I would like to convert myself.
Cheers,
Blue
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I totally agree with you. One of the best topics and wonderful paintwork. Not to mention the freehand on the banners!! :eusa_clap:
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Thanks!
I've actually finished two more of my own figures. I've also got more of the commission stuff. I'll try to get to the pics soon. Trying to finish another unit today.
Very, very beautiful. Interesting to see you combining both yellowish white and greyish white, it works well! Love the muted, warm colours. Any chance of seeing how you progress with your commission work, or do you normally not show that (per agreement or something)?
I like to vary the whites. It usually depends on what the other colors are going to be.
I don't do progress shots on commissions because it takes a long time to set up shots, etc. and I already have a lot of trouble balancing time vs. wages. I make shockingly little when it's broken down to an hourly rate.
One quick question about the halberd you converted to a standard back about 10 pages....what size copper rod did you use for that>
It was brass. I also use steel florist wire sometimes. But copper is far too soft and will bend easily. I'm pretty sure it's 18 gauge (US). The brass rod came from a GF9 variety pack and wasn't labeled.
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just spent 10 mins looking in detail at your work, really nice, lots of interesting colours and models, solid style, not prescribed, unique i would say,
bonus!
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:biggriin: Great...thanks for the info on the banner pole...I'll find something similar at the local hobby shop I'm sure.
cheers,
Blue
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I've exceeded my recent pace and finished TWO extra figures for myself! One is the drummer, most of which was painted at the same time as the spearmen. The other is an old greatsword that I started... well, I have no idea. A year? Two? I don't know. But the flesh and the white parts of the clothing were done. I decided to test out one of the Reaper Master Series "triads" of paint on this guy. It's an earthier shade of green than most of my usual greens.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/drmgs01.jpg)
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those colours have worked great, very realistic
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A really nice green colour. Woiuldn't mind using it. Nice work.
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I must say, I'm just love the blue being used here. How do you manage it?
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I must say, I'm just love the blue being used here. How do you manage it?
Reaper Master Series paints. Layered plus a little bit of mixing. Templar Blue (9056), Breonne Blue (9055), Ashen Blue (9057).
At first I was ambivalent, but these Master Series paints are growing on me. I think I may try some more.
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That blue triad is one of my favorite blue triads that Reaper has. I've used it on a couple different figs, although not so much or rather not at all in my Empire army. Which green triad is it you used there?
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Wow, both the green and blue look great! I'm not familiar with these "triads" - is it a collection of paints put together with the specific purpose to go together as basecoat/shade/highlight?
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Yes, they are Reaper's Master series paints. You can purchase them individually or in the three bottle triad blister pack. The triads consist of a shade, mid-tone, and highlight color. Some of the triad packs are not actually shade, mid-tone, and highlight color. They are things that are convenient to buy together, like the black, brown, and blue liners.
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Zero, did you ever make your plasticard banner?
Would you be interested in making one for me....
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The green is Muddy Olive (9034), Olive Green (9035), and Pale Olive (9036.) I don't like them as much as I think the colors are a little bit off, though mixing them a bit helps I don't think I'd use the both the dark and light tones straight out of the bottle again unless I wanted a really extreme look.
Info about the Master Series Paints is here: http://www.reapermini.com/Paints . Click on the Master Series logo for a full list.
As for the plasticard banner, I have made several. I don't which you mean in particular. I made one for the High Elf commission I recently finished, though I think I may have forgot to take the final photo. Two of my four banners depicted in my blog and in the "show us your banners" thread are done with plasticard (the sun with the "Marienburg Auf Immer Und Ewig" motto, and the one with the yellow & blue horizontal stripes.)
I could probably make one. You talking just a banner or painting as well? If it's the former, have you seen the Imperial Forge link I've posted, with instructions how to make them? PM me with what you're looking for.
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I have almost exclusively used GW paints until recently when I started trying out Folkart and similar ones. I love Reaper miniatures but I have never tried their paints. How do they compare quality wise to GW? and are they cheaper, more expensive or about the same for what you get?
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It's 1/2 oz of paint, which is about 15 mL. GW paints come in 12 mL and Vallejo comes in 17 mL. The Reaper Master Series come in dropper bottles, like Vallejo.
In terms of price, I'm not certain. I think they are comparable, but the "F"LGS owner has been overcharging me for paints anyway. But it's still cheaper than mail ordering single bottles. :x
I think they have a few things over the Vallejo (both Model and Game Color series) that I have... Better consistency, they don't separate horribly, and they don't (so far) clog the dropper bottles nor flow/squirt out the bottle after vigorous shaking as soon as I take the lid off.
In comparison to GW, they don't dry up in the bottle, and work really well when thinned down and flow very nicely. Less "rubbery" than GW.
Honestly I've started finding replacements for GW from Vallejo. But now I think I may look to Reaper MS first.
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Also, in terms of craft store paints (Americana, Folk Art, Ceramcoat, etc.) I also use many of them. About half my paints are craft store types, especially black, greys, whites and earth tones (browns, tans, etc.) Although they seem to be similar, for some reason I feel like I've had better luck with Americana. Many of their bright colors suck, though, and that's definitely where I've been going with Vallejo. They've got the best yellows, reds, bright greens, etc. that I've tried so far.
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I really like the Great Sword...its a very natural sudued color but as the uniform is so busy already it really works...I think Landsknecht painting can be a little over the top...this works.
I too am a fan of Reaper Master Series...and Vallejo...both of which I use quite a bit. I am not a big fan of Reapers inks...they come out WAY too glossy. I've also been hearing good things about the P3 paint range and have just picked up a bottle of their flesh wash to try out. The only new GW paints I just are a couple of their washes and their metallics which I still think are great.
Keep up the GREAT work 023...I love these classic models!
Blue
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The green is Muddy Olive (9034), Olive Green (9035), and Pale Olive (9036.) I don't like them as much as I think the colors are a little bit off, though mixing them a bit helps I don't think I'd use the both the dark and light tones straight out of the bottle again unless I wanted a really extreme look.
That's what I suspected it was. I came to the same conclusion when I used the Olive triad recently. I also thought the color difference was too extreme and the contrast was too high between the shade and the highlight. I really think the mid-tone and especially the Pale Olive highlight are just too light. I really like the Muddy Olive color though. I used the Olive Green on the speedo of the the VOR Cyclops I posted on my blog. It was so bright when I was done, that I gave it a slightly watered down Thrakka Green wash to tone it down some. This gave me something closer to the Russian Green color I was aiming for.
In the last two years I've been moving towards using more and more Reaper and Vallejo myself. I've been slowly stopping using GW paints as much. There are definitely some really good colors outside of GW. Not that you can't achieve those colors with GW paints, you just don't have to spend as much time mixing to get there.
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As much as the current GW paint bottles are an improvement, they still suck. The paint is constantly drying out & thickening, and the small "ledge" on the lid is just too short to let the paint drip back into the actual pot. Instead it gets all over the lip around the edge, dries up, needs cleaned, etc. The really old flip top bottles didn't have this problem and I still have old GW paint from back then (well over 10 years old!) that's still good.
That alone is chasing me away from GW paints other than the washes and maybe a few metalics.
Even in terms of the washes, I'm still working on concocting my own recipe for a Badab Black equivalent, as I go through faaaaar too many bottles of that stuff.
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I have a recipe for such a wash...
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Like Green on your model :happy:
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I have a recipe for such a wash...
Chaos Black and matte medium?
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Golden acrylics shading grey (for airbrush), matte thickening medium, water.
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I've been experimenting with black craft paint, Future floor polish, matte medium. I think I will try adding Reaper anti-shine additive, as it's still too glossy.
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Im probably wrong but with all those ingredients is it not cheaper to just stock up on badab black or use thinned chaos black?
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Well, the black craft paint that I use comes in 2oz (59mL) bottles. Future in a 27 fl oz. (798 mL) bottle and I'm not sure about the medium. GW pots are all 12mL. So in sheer cost (Again not factoring medium as I don't use it) It seems to be much more cost effective for the Future and Craft paint. Especially since future in that size is about $5 US here, and the craft paint is about $1-$2 a bottle depending on which kind you get. A pot of GW paint is something like $4 and some change here.
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The really old flip top bottles didn't have this problem and I still have old GW paint from back then (well over 10 years old!) that's still good.
Yes indeed! So do I. Why oh why did they have to change that.
You really manage to bring colours to life, great stuff. I guess that's the difference between a hobby painter and somebody who can do art for a living...
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Im probably wrong but with all those ingredients is it not cheaper to just stock up on badab black or use thinned chaos black?
For around $15 worth of Future, black paint, matte medium and anti-shine stuff I can mix up the equivalent of about $300 worth of GW Badab Black.
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Fair enough.
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Score!
I got my greedy little Marienburger paws on these this evening...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/progre01.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/progre02.jpg)
I now have 6 of the 7 "Imperial" ogres, plus a spare of the hero (eyepatch guy on the left, above.) The only one I am missing is the guy with the morning star looking thing. If anyone has got that morning star guy, I will trade the hero above for him!
The painting on the top three is really good. I'm just going to touch up a couple of chips in the paint and match the bases to mine. The guy with the hand cannon will get a dip in some Simple Green and be repainted.
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DUDE!! i love these figures :::cheers:::
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I dont remember seeing a hochland paintjob with white as a 3rd colour and I must say I like it a lot.
Of course these minis are ace :mrgreen:
Porkix
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I dont remember seeing a hochland paintjob with white as a 3rd colour and I must say I like it a lot.
A little background on the figures... A year or two ago at Cold Wars or Historicon, a friend and I both spotted these figures at someone's flea market table. The owner had a whole oldschool Empire army painted in these colors, to this quality. It was for sale, per individual unit, at extremely reasonable prices. The ogres were less than you'd pay on eBay for unpainted. As I said above, I think the painting is easily worth extra (if you're OK with the colors) -- it's really well done. At any rate, as I said I would have bought them unpainted at that price, so went back to get some cash from my own flea market table... and they were gone.
Later on, my friend said, "you remember those ogres?" He was the one who bought them. I think he may have bought some crossbowmen or something else as well. So now he's getting rid of his old ogres, and asked if I wanted any. I grabbed that unit, and the hand cannon guy was the only other "Imperial" on he had. There were some other old GW/Marauder ogres too, but I only wanted the Imperials.
Very excited that getting the full set is finally within reach!
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The painting on the top three is really good.
Yes, it is.
Very excited that getting the full set is finally within reach!
Congratulations!
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Congratz and excellent painting indeed!
Love youre blog! Its inspiring :eusa_clap:
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Score again!
I was doing one of my usual check-ups on the long OOP "Marienburg: Sold Down the River" to see if any of the PDF RPG stores had started selling it, or if a used copy was available for something less than the normally insane price on Amazon (http://www.filestube.com/8c24a343cb77b42b03e9,g/Marienburg-Sold-Down-The-River.html) & eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Warhammer-Marienburg-Sold-Down-River-Book-Map-/110645135339?pt=US_Fiction_Books&hash=item19c2f6c7eb) and I discovered someone has put the PDF up on Files Tube.
After years of waiting to give a legitimate source my money, I've finally got it through a slightly shadier source. :engel:
In terms of the army, this may be another factor breathing a bit of new life into things. Which brings me to a little rambling discussion...
In the old Empire book, the Marienburg variant army was a cross between Empire and DoW. I've been playing the army as Empire, but I think I will now give the DoW angle a try. Hopefully with the web revised version of the DoW book. That probably knocks out most of my regular opponents, as they seem to be increasingly fixated on tournaments and "official" by-the-book WFB only. The ogres above, and the pikemen I have recently started painting (just wait for the photos... I need to base them still!) are another factor in the DoW direction.
I've always wanted to build a medieval city themed terrain board with canals, buildings, docks, bridges, etc. I saw one at a convention ages ago, and have been dying to do one of my own. After browsing the art in the PDF, I'm feeling the pull of that project again. If I do it, it would probably be just a 4x4 section of city for a skirmish or Mordheim style game.
So that's it for now. Hopefully I will be picking up a bit of speed on this plog once again...
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http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=36541.0
Mordhiem in Marenburg.
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Oooh... I will have to look into that when I've got some more time!
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I didn't have my camera with me, so just a crappy phone pic. But here's a preview of what I'm working on at the moment...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/ogprev01.jpg)
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Old Glory pike, if I'm not mistaken. I've a bag of about 30-33 of those gathering dust.
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Yes they are. I've had them for a couple years and have only painted one, for comparison with the other brands. I've had them cleaned, primed & armed with pikes for a long time. But they've been sitting in storage since then. I thought it was about time to try painting them up. I'm painting them a little more quickly than my usual figures, but I think that works with the OG figures.
I'm working on them in groups of three with the same colors. Nine are done, nine are partially done, the last twelve are still just primer.
I need to find some command figures for them, though. I have plenty of Foundry and Artizan command, but I think the figures will look a little out of place in a unit of OG. All I really need is a musician and leader, the standard can go on a regular pike if I have to.
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I discovered someone has put the PDF up on Files Tube.
Yes! Finally! Thank you!
Far too late for Crisis in Marienburg, but still!
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Someone recently posted somewhere in the forum (I'm too lazy to go back and look) asking about color schemes for an army with an owl theme. I said I though greyish white a and brown, maybe with a bit of red as an accent color could look cool, and a bit unique for an Empire army.
Anyhooo, I painted one figure up like that for myself (ah, the advantage of the multi-color mercenary army!) just to see how it might look.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/1spowl.jpg)
Of course the white and the brown can also be varied. These are just the shades I chose for this experiment.
Now... back to work on my pikemen...
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I like that. Owl-erific.
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Yet another poor quality camera photo. Here's the first 18 pikemen, painted and in process of being glued to their bases.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/ogprev02.jpg)
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Another phone pic. I will try to get a real camera photo soon. But here's the finished pikemen:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/ogpk01.jpg)
Also, a few more (very rough) banner ideas I've sketched on various scraps of paper. I figured I'd scan them before I lose the scraps. I don't like the octopus as its drawn, but the other three will be used in some form.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/banner2.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/banner1.jpg)
And a pic of my new studio assistant, Milo. I've broken my own rule and let him in the room a few times. We've determined he's an art critic. He likes to direct me as I'm painting, both miniatures and more traditional type painting.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/mio.jpg)
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I like Milo! Keep us posted on his painting tips. :icon_wink:
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One other thing... and this may be a long shot... I am looking for a couple command figures for that pike unit. They are Old Glory figures and do not look in scale with Foundry or Artizan (both of which are bigger/chunkier sculpting style.) The only command figures I have are from those two companies, and GW. So I am looking for a leader and musician from Old Glory or any other suitable range. So if anyone in the US happens to have two figures they can spare/trade/sell, you'd earn my eternal gratitude.
Milo sat on my lap one day and kept pointing and meowing at the figure like he was telling me, "paint there.... ok, now paint there." Every once in a while he would gently smack the brush out of the way like he was telling me not to paint whatever I was about to do. So he's more of a "hands on" (paws on?) sort of a critic.
I was going to post this update on my Warseer plog, but I keep getting a warning that their site has been reported as an "attack page." Anyone else having this trouble?
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://warseer.com/forums/
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Really looking forward when the banners are painted up! And Milo is a good mascotte
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do you have pictures of what you need? steveb
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I suppose a musician and a leader from this pack:
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PIL-05
http://oldglory25s.com/images/pil0051.jpg
I could probably use an OG halberdier or 2-handed sword rank & file guy for the leader instead. As long as I can identify him as being different from the rest of the pikemen. Come to think of it, I'm going to go take a look at some of the TAG packs I picked up. I might be able to get a "leader" from those if the scale is right. IIRC they are closer in size to OG than the others.
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I don't think the TAG command figures are going to look any better in the unit. They are smaller than the OG figures.
Tried to get a better shot of the pikemen with the "real" camera but I still need to get a new background paper and improve the new lighting setup.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/ogpk02.jpg)
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I like the way they look. I was conflicted whether to get them or Perry Miniatures European Mercenaries. I decided to get the Perry's and they look good. The sculpting on the OG look good, not excellent but good. The painting though is very nice indeed. Loving the vibrant colours there.
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The variety of colours seem to work in units really quite well.
I was dubious about whether Marienburg colour schemes were plausable.
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Awesome! Love pike units....these look great!
Cheers,
Blue
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Good looking pike block. Interesting to hear about the size of the TAG figs. Cheers
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Like that unit very much :happy:
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No new photos at the moment. Long ago I bought a box of the plastic chaos knights, with the intention of converting them over to a unit of mercenary knights (remove all the spikez, skullz, and arrows of chaos) as opposed to the Sons of Manann that I've already done. Sort of a dark & gritty to contrast with the bright.
I don't know why this name popped into my head suddenly, but I think I will call them the Sons of Manannarchy.
:engel:
In the meantime, I've got more pikemen on the painting desk. A mix of Foundry and Artizan.
I still never solved the command figure issue in the last unit.
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A few more civilians. I previously posted a trio of tavern workers. These are also from Reaper's Townfolk series.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf02.jpg)
Maybe I will put together a couple of buildings (long overdue) and use the civilians and livestock as non-game-affecting scenery. I'll just move them out of the way as the game necessitates.
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A few more civilians. I previously posted a trio of tavern workers. These are also from Reaper's Townfolk series.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf02.jpg)
Maybe I will put together a couple of buildings (long overdue) and use the civilians and livestock as non-game-affecting scenery. I'll just move them out of the way as the game necessitates.
how about giving them victory points if saved by your side, lose points if they are killed while in your protection. for the other side capture points as a plus and killed points as a minus. I think that would make for an interesting game especially if that were the only criteria for a game. steveb
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Those look wonderful! Your painting is always inspiring. :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool: :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
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how about giving them victory points if saved by your side, lose points if they are killed while in your protection. for the other side capture points as a plus and killed points as a minus. I think that would make for an interesting game especially if that were the only criteria for a game. steveb
That sounds like a good idea. Makes me think of a bit of history...
Back in the dark recesses of time, my friends and I were developing an interest in fantasy wargames, and trying out a few different systems. We were RPG players at the time, but increasingly interested in larger wargames. At some point I picked up a copy of WFB 3rd. Soon after, I played in a WFB game at a semi-local convention. Details are a bit hazy, but if I recall correctly the battlefield was pretty big. Maybe 6'x12'? There were about 4-5 players per side. I was on the "good guys" side. We were defending a human village from raiders. I think there were both Empire & Bretonnians, as well as dwarfs. I commanded the dwarf engineer's contingent. I had some larger warmachines as well as the old dwarf fire-thrower teams (think skaven minus the warpy bits) and maybe some shooters. The bad guys were a mix of O&G and chaos. They had a bunch of chariots, and one of their goals was to "loot" buildings (and/or burn them?) then make a get away. It still rates as on of my favorite games of WFB, though it may be admittedly idealized due to time and nostalgia.
But I guess my point is, I like that idea. It adds more story and gives a sense of purpose to the battle more than some of the generic scenarios.
If I could get people to play those sorts of games, it might revive my interest in WFB. Not sure how that would fly in the current tournaments=all environment, though.
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Plus it would make for some interesting tactics. You could steel in with your fast units to snatch away the villagers, but would you be able to keep them away from the enemy for long enough? Moving objectives could be fun...
Oh and very nicely painted by the way. :happy:
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how about giving them victory points if saved by your side, lose points if they are killed while in your protection. for the other side capture points as a plus and killed points as a minus. I think that would make for an interesting game especially if that were the only criteria for a game. steveb
That sounds like a good idea. Makes me think of a bit of history...
Back in the dark recesses of time, my friends and I were developing an interest in fantasy wargames, and trying out a few different systems. We were RPG players at the time, but increasingly interested in larger wargames. At some point I picked up a copy of WFB 3rd. Soon after, I played in a WFB game at a semi-local convention. Details are a bit hazy, but if I recall correctly the battlefield was pretty big. Maybe 6'x12'? There were about 4-5 players per side. I was on the "good guys" side. We were defending a human village from raiders. I think there were both Empire & Bretonnians, as well as dwarfs. I commanded the dwarf engineer's contingent. I had some larger warmachines as well as the old dwarf fire-thrower teams (think skaven minus the warpy bits) and maybe some shooters. The bad guys were a mix of O&G and chaos. They had a bunch of chariots, and one of their goals was to "loot" buildings (and/or burn them?) then make a get away. It still rates as on of my favorite games of WFB, though it may be admittedly idealized due to time and nostalgia.
But I guess my point is, I like that idea. It adds more story and gives a sense of purpose to the battle more than some of the generic scenarios.
If I could get people to play those sorts of games, it might revive my interest in WFB. Not sure how that would fly in the current tournaments=all environment, though.
Holy crap...
I just bought some figures from Mega Minis Villagers with the intention of doing a club battle almost exactly a battle as 023 discribed. :icon_eek:
My intention was to use the NPC's in the game as a type of BSB-esque thing. The town priest granting hatred vs. undead, the astronomier granting a re-roll a turn to the unit and the farmer granting forest strider. 50 Vp if killed. The evil side was going to get a witch, hunchback and scarecrow.
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Holy crap...
I just bought some figures from Mega Minis Villagers with the intention of doing a club battle almost exactly a battle as 023 discribed. :icon_eek:
My intention was to use the NPC's in the game as a type of BSB-esque thing. The town priest granting hatred vs. undead, the astronomier granting a re-roll a turn to the unit and the farmer granting forest strider. 50 Vp if killed. The evil side was going to get a witch, hunchback and scarecrow.
Those are great ideas! I may just steal them. We've got a semi-annual club game day coming up at the end of October, and I was going to run a trial game of Hail Caesar, but I'm tempted to put that on hold and do a fun WFB "raid" scenario instead.
I've also got those wagons and livestock that I used for a previous "raid" scenario that I wrote (and did a batrep for) in the Treachery & Greed campaign.
( http://treacheryandgreed.com/forum/index.php?topic=181.0 )
I would just need to build a few buildings in the next few weeks to fill out the village, and some more townfolk, of course.
So maybe flat out VP for livestock, wagons and generic civilians, as well as VP for buildings defended (good guys) vs. buildings looted or torched (bad guys), and then have some of those special characters that grant in-game effects, as you describe.
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Oh, and I will also need to have separate victory conditions for each sub-commander, too. Backstabbery will naturally be involved... :engel:
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There was an old Mordheim scenereo for Stirland that gave one side a witch and the other a witch hunter for free. The balance in this situation was much like the truthsayer and dark embisary whom came for free so long as his nemisis was present.
My concept was to tie an NPC to a peice of terrain (A farm, a church and a tower), these guys would represent WFRP jobs and thus their fantasy nemisis would naturaly be free to the oposing side. (Farmer-Scarecrow, Witch-Priest, Hunchback-Mages Apprentace)
Thus much like how terrain sometimes comes with special rules now adays, NPC's or locals might be represneted by some similar set of rules.
Thats the concept....
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You know 023 you have really inspired me to do some fantastic things for warhammer. I really admire what you do and how you present you hobby.
Feel free to steal anything you want.
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:icon_redface: Thanks!
I've been brewing some ideas in my head about this, and mentioned that I'd like to do a WFB game to our gamefest organizer.
I got rid of my Skaven, so I was thinking I would have to borrow some O&G and chaos figures from friends, but then I had a (potentially) better idea...
I've had this "Age of Sigmar" idea floating around in my head for a long time. Basically a super retro Empire campaign/lists set in the time of Sigmar. Kind of like the old War of the Beard lists. This would be pre-gunpowder, pre-full-plate, pre-steam, etc. A lot of lightly armed troops, and a bit of a focus on heroes, in the style of old epics. Magic would be pre-colleges, so more like shamen with magic oriented towards beasts & elements. I had thought about having different tribes with different totem animals, which would affect their spells as well as give some skills/magic items/etc.
At any rate, I'm considering digging into this concept. Here's the idea... somewhat retro-Empire, but not that far back. Still in the time of gunpowder, but before the current timeline. "Barbarian" tribes from the northwest are being pushed out by all the action going on between chaos, dwarfs, skaven, O&G, etc. They have flooded into Kislev and over the borders of the Empire. They have surrounded and "besieged" some of the cities, but have little chance of taking the walls. So they are migrating past the larger cities and raiding smaller towns, farms, etc. The electors are hiding behind their walls, but at one town, a local baron decides to support his people and defend the town. (Names T.B.D.)
So what we will have is a smaller Empire defending force. Mainly infantry, a little bit of artillery. I may leave out the knights, but give them a unit of pistoliers. A WP or two, maybe a low level mage. I might throw in some allied units, maybe a few dwarfs and/or a unit of wood elf archers. And hobbits, of course.
On the raiders side, there will be a bunch of barbarian infantry and cavalry. I think I'm going to give them a bunch of solo low level heroes, in the spirit of the heroic champion style of warfare. Also a couple of shamen, and I think a couple of big baddies. Maybe a giant, an elemental, maybe some giant animals. I've also dug up a pack of hounds and packmaster I'd like to use.
So there it is. I've already started painting & prepping some figures. I just cleaned & primed the dog pack (9 dogs plus 1 packmaster,) an earth elemental, and a few more figures to use as heroes. I finally ordered & just received (yesterday!) this figure:
http://www.fantization.com/princesscliodnawbearersx3figs.aspx
So this gives great excuse to paint it up right away (started prep tonight.)
Pictures soon!
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I like your idea zero , if I would do it I'd base the empire on late Romano britian before the collapse of the empire as due to budget constiants the roman legionary looked like these guys http://www.comitatus.net/images/photo1.jpg and should fit the early empire, I would say the HE would have had some influence on the early empire so a bit of chainmail and basic plate armour so the tribes would be slowly moving away from fur and bondage gear ( well look at the chaos marauders it's all leather, pecks and spikes if that don't scream bondage gear what does) to imitate civilised culture it's what most of the barbarian tribes did in history. I know fantasy is fantasy but most good fantasies or si fi have real world elements to keep it a littl grounded and more beliveable.
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HA!!!! LOOKS JUST LIKE CELTOS!!!! I loved that line! Great Rules!
http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Celtos/index.html
(http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Pics/CLT/CLT-338.jpg)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54934229/Celtos-Rulebook
Used a D10 System for a greater range of stats and results. Skirmish, but took to larger conflict well enough.
This is ironic, I have thought much along the same lines!
Sons of Kronos have a whole bunch of freaking tribes that run along the same lines. Check out the Blade Maidens!
http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/index_kronos.html
There is Laviathan... although scotta grendel seems to be broken again.
http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=47&zenid=39f7be8dc81f3dd634667bba65bba40a
The problem with the idea is finding any kind of opponent.... but switching to the Warriors of Chaos or Beastmen presents plenty of opportunity. Love the pitch!
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The reason it looks just like Celtos is that those female figs are Celtos figs! They are, Princess Cliodna with Bearers, the female counterpart to Prince Ilbhrech with Bearers.
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Damn you evil polish guy for posting the obvious...
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I'm holding off on the early Empire for now and just doing the barbarian invasion of the near contemporary Empire for this battle(s).
I've got a few Celtos & Chronopia figures. The Renegade Miniatures range of historical Celts also fit in well, as they are "heroic" scale like fantasy figures. Half the hounds and the packmaster are from Harliquin's range (now BTD.) Can't find them on their web page, but the generic Barbarians would probably fit in: http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/home.php?cat=2355
Someday I should get this, as well: http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/product.php?productid=23651&cat=2312&page=1 though I could probably just make one by putting a little work into a toy instead.
This will be the general: http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2820.html (Already painted long ago, but I need to take a new photo of mine -- can't find the old one.)
I finished one of the heroes last night.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/gauls/brbchk.jpg)
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Sorry, Wally, it just seemed like you didn't notice!
I love how interchangable the Chronopia SoK and Celtos figs are. There is good reason for that of course, they we designed and sculpted by the same guy! That being said, while I love the Chronopia SoK Monarch, I think the Gael equivalent from Celtos is much more impressive. The Chronopia one is just a bit too static looking. Granted the Celtos one isn't riding a Stag, but there you are!
(http://www.brigademodels.co.uk/Pics/CLT/CLT-303.jpg)
I really need to get some work done on my Chronopia stuff. Big Devout, First Born, and SoK armies are waiting for me! The smaller Stygian, Dwarves, and Elf armies are waiting as well. Man, no time for all my cool stuff!
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The invasion continues -- a few WIP shots!
Some characters...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/brbwip01.jpg)
Packmaster and hounds...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/brbhnd01.jpg)
Think I might throw in some critters, like an earth elemental...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/ealwip01.jpg)
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Like it :happy:
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:Ohmy: wow :::cheers:::
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Cool, 023!
Interesting to see some wip. Do you always start with the skin color?
fbjorn
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99.9% percent of the time I paint the flesh first.
Usually everything else is "on top"of the flesh, so it gets done first. I also tend to be sloppy with painting flesh, so this way I can paint it, then cover up all the sloppy overpainting.
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I'm done painting the hounds & handler. I just need to finish the bases. Pics to follow soon.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/ilking01.jpg)
This is is my elk riding barbarian king guy. I realized -- there is no good way to photograph him.
I may have to see if I can get that other one, too.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/giant01.jpg)
This is another old paintjob, but I will probably throw a giant in with the barbarians. If I can get the other one painted, he will also join them.
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Maybe add some tattoos to the barbarians and giant?
Looking good though!
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Tattoos... that reminds me. (Not really tatoos, though.) I painted a unit of Germans, based on Kevin Dalimore (http://kevindallimore.co.uk/)'s Harii, for a friend a while back. I think I'm going to do something similar. Maybe this is the time. I think I've still got about a unit's worth of unpainted Germans.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/germans/rsgermans01.jpg)
(These are the one's I did before.)
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Finished the earth elemental...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/eelem01.jpg)
...pack o' hounds...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/brbhnd02.jpg)
...and an archer/hero...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/brbarch01.jpg)
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:::cheers::: wow very nice work
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Love that earth elemental :icon_biggrin:
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OMFG Irish Wolfhound Pack!
Where are those minis from? (Orion GW Hounds?)
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The packmaster and three of the hounds are from Harlequin, a set called "Kelt Warhounds." Black Tree Design sells most of the old Harlequin figures, but I didn't see it on their web page. Maybe I didn't look in the right place. The rest were dug out from a "bits bin" at a convention, I believe they are either Orion's hounds or the older GW WE hounds, I haven't looked it up.
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Lots of more good things there. :icon_cool: :eusa_clap:
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More barbarians. (Sorry for the blurry pic.)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/celtchmp02.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/brbchktsm.jpg)
Working on a standard bearer and another elemental next. I have the second DoW giant on filed & on the table, but the process of pinning & gluing is making me procrastinate.
I'm thinking about picking up a bunch of giants and eventually doing a humans vs. giants game sometime.
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OK, new idea for the actual Marienburg/Empire army!
I think I'm going to order a second pack of the figure with the shield bearers and replace the figure on top with an converted Empire "self portrait" figure. :biggriin:
edit: Maybe I use the leader from this pack, with a head swap?
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1736
edit edit: Or maybe the figure in the upper left of this pack? That must be a repackaged set -- I've got most of the others, but not him. :/
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/renaissance/german/mercenary_command_ren022/?sector_id=12
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super idea! how about he stands, not on a shield but a bowl shaped shield? with a map of the empire and nearby environs on it, making a statement like here I stand at the center of the world. or maybe just a province map, I like empire map idea better. Maybe feet planted on Brettonia and orc land, as aother statement of intentions? steveb
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Sweet idea. It would really stretch my painting skills a bit, I think. Maybe file & fill the shield to make it totally smooth.
Just a PSA for anyone browsing the plog...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/mmogretrade.jpg)
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OK, I am admittedly on a path continuing to diverge from the official GW canon. I don't care. I'm enjoying taking some creative liberties with what is a make-believe game in the first place. I'm running my first "take fantasy back" game this weekend and it's going to involve a whole lot of unofficial stuff. I admit, not only am I really getting into the barbarian invasion of the Empire idea, I think I'm going to start indulging in some heretical inter-Empire conflicts as well.
(OK, so strictly speaking Marienburg is outside the Empire. And my plan is to build a second Empire army, that of Nordland, and battle them against each other.)
So back to my fantasy figures...
I painted & converted a lesser air elementel/air spirit/djinn. The top half is an old Rackham Confrontation Kelt Fianna, the bottom half is wire and putty. A simple conversion, but I'm happy with the results! May her winds blow long in Marienburg sails!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/lael01.jpg)
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Oh, looks good! You don't have any larger pictures?
:::cheers:::
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The forum shrunk that photo a bit. Try this link for the full size: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/brb/lael01.jpg
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I really like the celtic models and the paint jobs you have given them, particularly that shield and the cloth on the pack master!
I just noticed your quest to find that particular imperial ogre. I saw it on ebay recently for £20 buy out, not sure if its still about.
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I'm running my first "take fantasy back" game this weekend and it's going to involve a whole lot of unofficial stuff. I admit, not only am I really getting into the barbarian invasion of the Empire idea, I think I'm going to start indulging in some heretical inter-Empire conflicts as well.
*Eyebrow Raised
I have been attempting a similar course of action lately to breathe life into my warhammer group. Please post a pic of the game, I would love to see what you are up to.
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nice hurricane thong.
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Thanks.
I just want to go back to fantasy gaming being personalized & creative instead of rigid, official and competition focused. So I am going to try hosting games like the up coming one (which is admittedly a bit rushed) in which I've got a scenario, goals and unofficial rules/units to try to provide a fun game. The scenario and goals are intentionally left a big vague in terms of winning and losing. Originally I had a set of points based victory conditions, but I pulled those out in favor of just goals, no numbers.
I want people to be competitive within the scenario setting, but in the end I want the focus to be on the fun of the game rather than it turning into an accounting game and arguing over numbers.
I'm also modifying some of the core WFB mechanics slightly. Mostly I will be simplifying things as this game has a limited time slot, will have multiple players, some of whom may be new, and some of whom may be children. (We get a varied group at the Game Fests and it is a family friendly event, so there are usually at least a few kids.) I'm sticking with simple troops with fewer special rules, but have then added some critters back in with simple rules.
At any rate, I've uploaded the faction sheets, link below. There are two Empire defenders, and four barbarian tribes in a lose alliance to raid the villiage. There will be roaming livestock to capture, hiding villagers to rescue or kidnap, and buildings to loot and burn.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D69nOorF7sONg7LXOSbay1LJJbP0SjlEsXFfOz3kZLI/edit?hl=en_US (the conversion to Google Docs seems to have screwed up the page formatting somewhat)
I haven't had enough time to work on some of the additional rules (will try to do it tonite!) but I want to keep those secret from they players until situations arise during the game. They will include a few in-game bonuses that are situational based on capture of villagers, loot or occupation of terrain features. The inspiration for that is WallyTWest's comment a page or two back on this plog.
Given a bit more time, I'm going to work on a further evolution of some of this, add in more figures, more crazy fantasy stuff, and develop more scenarios, etc. Maybe even develop a campaign as a 3rd party GM.
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The background story is mostly in those sheets. I'm going to give a bit of a verbal story to begin with. Essentially the barbarian tribes have been driven out of their lands by chaos incursions. They sought refuge in the Empire but were turned away as unfit to live in the Empire. So with no choice and nowhere to go, they have resorted to violence to take what they need. I didn't get a chance to fully develop some of the backstabbery. There's a little bit in there, but some of it is more passsive aggressive -- like certain tribes aren't going to be to anxious to assist others, and will be in competition to get more loot.
At the beginning, I'm going to mention that if they simply drive out the Imperial forces, they will obviously, as a team, "win," but if someone gets to looting first (and/or more,) they will obviously be better off than the other tribes. :wink:
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The game has come and gone. Not everything went exactly as planned. The game on the bigger table ran over time, so not wanting to fall too far behind I set up on the smaller (4x8) table. So the battle was a bit condensed. We also had a lot of last minute no-shows, and I only ended up with 4 players in my game. That meant 2 barbarians, which limited the barbarian interactions/competitions with each other.
Lastly, I screwed up a bit with the building rules -- I somehow missed the fact that units in them are steadfast, which made the Empire units that garissoned them almost impossible to dislodge, especially after their mortar had 4 out of 5 rounds of direct hits, dropping far more barbarians than had been planned for.
So in essence, the barbarians (after suffering significant casualties) killed, ran off, destroyed and/or looted anything and anyone that wasn't in a few buildings around the center.
I posted a few photos on my blog: http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2011/10/game-day-25-what-is-good-in-life.html
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Selling my collection. See link to almost all of the Empire/Marienburg human stuff in this blog and a lot more at: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=41128.0
The rest of it (the Marauder dwarfs, ogres, halflings, barbarians, etc.) will probably soon follow in separate sales.
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Sale is on hold for the moment. Still figuring out what to do about everything.
In the meantime... OMFG, I painted something!
The last townie from the second Reaper pack.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf03.jpg)
Not my best work. I was rushing a bit, and trying to get her done between stages (while waiting for paint, washes, etc. to dry) on Teclis (see below.) Tempted to re-paint the green.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/jhe/testiclis01.jpg)
I have to pack everything up for the big move in a couple weeks. Our house was sold (we rent) and the new landlord wants to raise rent by an exorbitant amount. So we told him no-thanks. But the good news is that the new house will have a room for painting, etc. Maybe even a gaming table! (Now I just need to figure out how to get the time I need to make use of those things.)
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That Reaper tart is an awesome model, and very well-painted. I think the green looks fine.
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Please, be polite. She's not a tart.... she's a strumpet. At least that's what the pack of three such ladies is labeled. (Those three are primed & ready to paint, but I haven't started them yet.)
Check this out, I got ANOTHER figure painted. Just one, but it's something. At this rate I may finish a full unit in a couple months!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/monopike01.jpg)
So I am thinking about trying to take some baby steps back into WFB. More pikemen will be required, as I will probably be retiring my boatload of swordsmen and replacing them with spear pikemen.
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He looks great.....but kind of sad. You should paint him some friends.
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I'm working on a unit champion and musician next. Music will cheer him up!
I've got 4 other pikemen (Foundry & Artizan) painted in a similar pose, plus 30 Old Glory pikemen I previously painted.
When I was painting him, I kept thinking this guy looked like a young Gene Wilder.
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So my production isn't up to what it used to be, but compared to the last year, it's like someone lit a fire...
I got two more pikemen and a muscian finished, all in the same colors. Up to a unit of 8 ("spearmen") so far!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/fndatzpk01.jpg)
The I worked on a plastic spearman and an artillery crew -- done except the bases.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/grnwhtwip01.jpg)
And I've managed to get over half way of the way through two more pike and three more artillery crew.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/rdwhtwip01.jpg)
More on the way!
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Looking back at that last pic... The artillery crewman in the center has been bugging me since I first put him together. His waist is far too high, he's missing most of his lower torso, and if he puts his hands down at his sides, they will end up at his knees. Subtle though it is, that's got to be one of the worst GW figures in the recent past. At least he's not a prominent figure.
Also, it just hit me... I will never be able to order more of the Perry landsknechts. That's an awful fnording tragedy. WTF is Foundry thinking???
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o23 why not just add a sash in gs to his lower torso so that it hides the irregularities between his short torso and high hips? Just my 2cents of course.
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Also, it just hit me... I will never be able to order more of the Perry landsknechts. That's an awful fnording tragedy. WTF is Foundry thinking???
They still appear to be available, for now at least.
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/renaissance/german/?sector_id=71 (http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/renaissance/german/?sector_id=71)
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AH, thank goodness. I thought they had removed them when they released that awful new stuff.
Finished the figures in the last post, except for a few of the bases. Started (barely) 3 pike, 2 plastic spearmen and another artillery crew.
Might lay out a new plan of attack, and revise that tally on the first page sometime soon. Right now it's spear/pike madness.
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As I said previously I finished all the figures in the previous pics. Group pic coming at some point.
For now, more WIP. I'm squeezing out every minute I can get at the painting table before having to pack up and move in a couple weeks. If I seem a bit over zealous in posting pics of just a couple figures at a time, it's because I'm just thrilled to have any time (or enthusiasm) for the hobby again. Making up for lost time, I guess.
So, the WIP - another mix of figures...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/grnyelwip01.jpg)
And I started prepping another batch of figures coming up next: 10 Goblin Factory halflings (6 bow, 4 halberd & command) and my first Artizan landsknecht casualty. The casualty is only on the round base as a temporary measure to facilitate painting. I'll pop him off once I'm done. For transport, I've drilled a hole and put a 1/16" magnet on the flat bottom side of the figure.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gfhob01.jpg)
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Nice to see your work! Great colours on those spearmen in the last post (just to mention something among lots of great stuff. :-))
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As I was packing up stuff in the basement, getting read for the big move, and I came across this. I got it as a prize at the Origins WFB tournament back when GW actually came out & had a booth in the dealers hall and ran their own tournaments. It's painted resin, and has sustained some damage in the long years of storage. But I'm thinking about using the assorted bits as a basis for a fun conversion.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/thebiggun01.jpg)
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Is that a 3up cannon?
And is it likely to be the infamous Nuln Seige Cannon?
And are you going to make it up according to Zak's awesome design?
(http://www.batcave.co.uk/temp/zakcannon.png)
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:eusa_clap:
Maybe fewer Skullz™ and halflings, and swap out ogre with a giant. Really, that's mostly all I've got so far. I'll start sketching out some ideas as they come to me at random times when I should probably be doing something else.
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Wow :Ohmy:
Dark, I was thinking more along the lines of Ulric's Thunder from Middenheim. Giant of a loader and two towers, one at the back for lighing it and one at the front for targetting.
Will be waiting (and excited) to see what you do with it :biggriin:
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Maybe Great Canon of Midenheim with giant :engel:
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Ulric's nothing! Its Manann's Trident or some such nonsense! And it needs to be one of three guns mounted in an impregnable clifftop fortress commanding the sea lanes into Marienburg to put an end to raids from Chaos, Dark Elves and the like.
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More! More! More! :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
Please :engel:
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Ulric's nothing! Its Manann's Trident or some such nonsense! And it needs to be one of three guns mounted in an impregnable clifftop fortress commanding the sea lanes into Marienburg to put an end to raids from Chaos, Dark Elves and the like.
:::cheers:::
I like the way you think. Sadly, I only have one of these guns. So the trident will have to be done differently. Like a tower mounted triple luminark thingie...
How about "Stromfels' Thunder" or "The Wrecker?"
Wish I had one of those Forgeworld landships to mount this on.
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Stromfel's Thunder would be heretical!
::heretic::
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Manann's Mightly Sea Cucumber! Ready to
vomit its intestines rain death on any who would defy the might of the Sea-Lords of Marienburg!
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Stromfel's Thunder would be heretical!
I was thinking of that in terms of the way real world coutner parts might be named "The Devils Spear" or "Lucifer's Hammer" or whatever. Like it's meant to evoke a threat rather than be a blessed thing. Besides, according to the fluff, although Stromfels is a taboo god, he's supposed to be just another aspect of Manann.
Manann's Mightly Sea Cucumber! Ready to vomit its intestines rain death on any who would defy the might of the Sea-Lords of Marienburg!
Mannan's One Eyed Mega Eel?
:unsure:
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Mannan's Monocular Moringuidae
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I had only a little time, so decided to try to quickly get some of the halflings done. I didn't finish, but here are the WIP archers. I still need to do a lot of highlighting.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gfhob03.jpg)
I painted the flesh on all of them. Here's some of the archers compared to some of the half pike (halberd) command. So far I think the archers have a more consistent quality of sculpting (and I plan on getting some more.) I'm not as fond of the faces (the two on the right) & hands (the two with halberds) on a couple of the halberd command figures. I still like the halberd figure on the left, though. Actually, none of them are really bad. So I'll still pick up a few more (different) packs to see some more of the range & build some units. I'll post more photos as I finish.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gfhob02.jpg)
Sorry about the crappy pics. Only had my phone on me, and sometimes the pics are OK, but its got a narrow focus, so I can't get them all clear in the same photo.
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Stromfel's Thunder would be heretical!
I was thinking of that in terms of the way real world coutner parts might be named "The Devils Spear" or "Lucifer's Hammer" or whatever. Like it's meant to evoke a threat rather than be a blessed thing. Besides, according to the fluff, although Stromfels is a taboo god, he's supposed to be just another aspect of Manann.
Ah, I see. However, I thought things in our world named like that were supposedly cursed or unlucky things or places. The cannon might be suspected of being not as reliable as it looks. And in a world where the gods do actually respond to invocation, might actually mean angering Manann, or the crew may find themselves facing the men with red hot pokers and wide brimmed hats
How about "Manann's Wrath"?
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Finished 6 halflings from Goblin Factory.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gfhob04.jpg)
I like them. Not quite up to GW standards, but they have their charm. Especially at $8.50 for 6 figures (and no overseas postage.) That compares to $15 for 3 or $55 for 12 GW halflings.
I like the size & proportions, and appreciate that they still look like simple rustic militia without being turned into a mockery or caricature. They fit well with many of the RPG oriented halflings, and will be good for bulking out (haha...) the rank & file troops.
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nice work, great as huntsmen
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Good lord! A cannon that large needs to fire grapeshot MADE UP OF SQUIGS.
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Good lord! A cannon that large needs to fire grapeshot MADE UP OF SQUIGS.
It fires grapeshot made of OTHER CANNONS! :biggriin:
Finished the recent green & yellow batch, based them plus the red & white ones that were previously posted in WIP photos...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/grnyel01.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/rdwht01.jpg)
Working on two more figures, the first casualty figure -- which is, naturally, in NORDLAND colors. :icon_twisted: Balancing that out, I'm also finishing up one of the Marauder dwarfs I started... oh, christ, like a few years ago.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/dddwfwip01.jpg)
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Inspiring work ! they look GREAAT
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Thank you!
I don't know if this is worthy of an update, but I (almost) finished the dwarf and the first casualty. The dwarf is still getting his base finished. The casualty has had a gloss coat (several, actually) applied, but not the final matte finish. In the meantime, he's going to hang around on my favorite work lamp, thanks to the magnet I embedded in him.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/lndcas01.jpg)
Working on some more of the usual suspects (pike & spear) plus a greatsword -- a figure from the Mordheim range. All in blue, white & orange.
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Finished the dwarf and greatsword. I like these two together. Like a pair of adventurers. Maybe not Gotrek & Felix, but at least they're proper Marienburg fops.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/dwgsmx.jpg)
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Nice work on that Reiklander champion, I've also got him lying in a box somewhere, I really should paint him...
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They do look great together (and individually)! :happy:
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SUPERB !!
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Wonderful work. Great characters!
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Those two diverse a short story written about them....
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Gootrek & Filip -- Marienburger adventurers. :mrgreen:
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"The Road to Wissenland" . . .
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One more of the Reaper Townsfolk -- this one from the "Strumpet" pack.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf04.jpg)
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Nice rack :)
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Nice rack :)
:biggriin:
I barely had time to start the next batch of figures. All I got done were the fleshy bits. (And some figures have more fleshy bits than others, if y'know what I mean...) I've still got more half-finished pike & spear models, but for some reason I'm stuck in a "civilian" mode. So the other two figures from the "Strumpets" pack, plus some old GW figures... perhaps customers (and a bouncer?) I think I will paint the guy on the right like Lord Farquaard.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf05wip.jpg)
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That guy on the right would indeed make a great lord Farguaard! :eusa_clap:
Also, all of those strumpets are hideously ugly, business can't be good....
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Contrary to what Hollywood have told us, prostitutes are rarely attractive.
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Wouldn't know actually...
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You have a location of The Netherlands and you have never seen a lady of the night prowling the streets? Again, Hollywood lies to us! :)
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Contrary to what Hollywood have told us, prostitutes are rarely attractive.
I don't know, I don't find Julia Roberts particularly attractive, so they weren't totally off base... :wink:
(Admittedly, she's not really "ugly" either...)
Wouldn't know actually...
Maybe it's different in the Netherlands, but the local news stories here, such as, "Local Woman Arrested for Soliciting Prostitution in Wal-Mart Bathroom" type stories, usually show photos of women who look like they've seen a rough life, are missing teeth, showing harsh effects of drug addition, etc. I'm sure that's not the full spectrum - but the news doesn't paint a pretty picture. The ones I've seen out on the street in town aren't much different.
Back to the figure(s)... I had almost made a comment when I posted that one painted with the red dress saying, "prostitution: it ain't pretty." I repainted the face twice trying to make it look better, but with no luck.
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You have a location of The Netherlands and you have never seen a lady of the night prowling the streets? Again, Hollywood lies to us! :)
Probably, yes. I've only ever walked through the Red Light district in Amsterdam, this was from one guys house to go pick up his girlfriend who worked in a bar right across the district and wasn't too comfy walking through there after midnight. Wasn't paying too much attention, some were nice, others not so much, though nothing in the 'hideous' category.
Those kind of places really cater to one single need, if you don't want to spend money on it there's no reason to go to places like that. :)
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normal, average, everyday guys like us don't drive Ferraris, or even get to rent one for the evening. The cost of the top notch vehicle being beyond our reach. We have to make do with a coup when weare young and then move on to a four door sedan when we can afford it.
(for you much younger readers, this is an allegory. It means you cant afford what you want, you will have to do with what is in your price range.) So just close your eyes, turn out the lights, wear a raincoat and hope for a hapy ending. I lucked out and ended up with a super charged thunderbird, it is almost more than I can handle. I wouldn't trade her for anything in the world. steveb
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steveb: :::cheers:::
Finished the remainder of the "Strumpets" pack. Only got a tiny bit of work done on the gentlemen.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf05.jpg)
I looked into the other available Reaper "Townsfolk" packs and think there are a few more I'd like to add to my collection...
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/town/sku-down/02825 (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/town/sku-down/02825)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/town/sku-down/03233 (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/town/sku-down/03233)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/town/sku-down/03123 (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/town/sku-down/03123)
There are a few more, but I think these are the only remaining packs I'm interested in at the moment.
Also thinking about the old (I mean really old) GW scenario packs, where you played smaller games of Warhammer with strong RPG elements. Could be fun to come up with something new like that & tie it in with a city terrain board. Er, in other news... I've drawn up for a city themed terrain board based around a canal.
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Those are beautifully painted!
:::cheers:::
fbjorn
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they look just the part, great painting.
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We're in our new house -- for a couple weeks now. No painting. Just stress. Only a fraction of our stuff is unpacked. Our dog is a bit "high strung" and due to her anxieties about moving she's been a lot of extra work. (Meaning... having the living room sprayed by doggie diarrhea several times, plus vomit, etc. We've tried replicating her "den" as much as possible at the new place, but she's still freaked out, the neighborhood stray cat is already picking on her, etc.) Still a lot to be done.
Eventually -- in theory -- I have a great work space. OK, *A* work space. It might not turn out to be "great" in the grand scheme of things, but if I can work, well then as far as I'm concerned, it's "great."
The only problem is that my stoodio space looks like this...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/IMAG0673.jpg)
...and I need to clear that all out before I get space to work again.
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I envy you your space.....
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On the bright side, all those boxes being in your way means you'll probably get around to unpacking them. Boxes that are out of the way have a habit of remaining unopened years later. It's amazing how many things you "need" when you're packing, then get along just fine without them once they're hidden in a box somewhere...
Good luck!
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Am I right guessin all those boxes are fully loaded with minis?
.....no wonder you identify yourself with Marienburg :roll:
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On the bright side, all those boxes being in your way means you'll probably get around to unpacking them. Boxes that are out of the way have a habit of remaining unopened years later. It's amazing how many things you "need" when you're packing, then get along just fine without them once they're hidden in a box somewhere...
I realized that when I was packing up. The basement had a bunch of stuff that was still in boxes from the last move. We went through as much as we could and donated/sold/trashed some stuff, but we need to get rid of more. Big difference from when I was single -- though I do admit to a good portion of it being mine. One of the problems was that I had to move out of my art studio about 2 months before we had to move out of our old house (both were somewhat unexpected and on short notice.) So a lot of my extra "junk" was moved into the basement just in time to move to a new house.
Am I right guessin all those boxes are fully loaded with minis?
.....no wonder you identify yourself with Marienburg :roll:
Hahaha. No.
Minis, terrain, supplies, wargaming books, etc. are only a portion of the boxes on the right side.
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Looks like a perfect painting corner once you clear it out. Sorry about all the stress and the dog, though. Sounds messy... But think of the satisfaction when you finally get to sit down at your painting table!
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Hope things return to normal soon.
Some inspiration--
http://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/t5397-medieval-town-updates
http://thestonecuttersguild.tumblr.com/
http://libermalefic.blogspot.com/search/label/Scenery
http://boringmordheimforum.forumieren.com/t2561-gierburg-painting-log-by-admin-tom
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Thanks for the links! Bookmarked for repeat future visits/reference.
I've been giving up sleep & staying up late the past few days, trying to clean & organize the attic. The end result is this...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/IMAG0683.jpg)
I have two tables set up in the back corners, though they may be difficult to see. Old K&E wood drafting table on the left, steel work table on the right. A few more late nights, plus a new shelving unit or two and I should have it organized enough to be able to start painting/creating again!
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glad you pointed out the tables in the corner, I thought for a moment that your spouse had taken over your hobby room with her exercise equipment. :-D
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Zero, always a pleasure viewing your updates!
May I suggest the "gentleman" with the cane in his hand be painted in very lavish red attire and take on the role as "The Scarlet Pimp-ernel"
The ladies look like they fit the role rather well, good luck with the rest of the unpacking and organizing.
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I really like this update. Its not often that you see a gaming or studio space take shape. Its an interesting perspective.
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glad you pointed out the tables in the corner, I thought for a moment that your spouse had taken over your hobby room with her exercise equipment. :-D
I actually use the bike more. Was my idea to get it, too. I like to bike in the nice weather (and rode to work when that was still a practical possibility.) But Cleveland has a lot of not-so-nice weather. So I like to have an indoor option.
May I suggest the "gentleman" with the cane in his hand be painted in very lavish red attire and take on the role as "The Scarlet Pimp-ernel"
I think I just may take that suggestion to heart. (Now I just need to find him among all these boxes!)
I really like this update. Its not often that you see a gaming or studio space take shape. Its an interesting perspective.
I didn't get much done tonight because I had job-work to do. But I did start opening boxes to see what I can start unpacking. Also measured the room up a bit. I should be able to get a 4x8 gaming table in there with little problem. The issues will be...
1. The attic is actually a shared space for my wife and I. (She is a musician.) So I have to make sure not to completely take over the whole room.
2. The stairs are along one of the side walls, where the roof comes down. So it's hard to get large objects up there. So I will need to cut the 4x8 sheet of plywood and then figure out a good way of reassembling it upstairs. That should work out well, though, because I'd like to make it easy to move & store when not in use. I already have several solid ideas on how to go about this.
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That's a very cool half story hobby/studio space. I'll bet you'll need to put that air conditioner in the window soon. I have a similar looking upstairs, albeit not finished (attic). It's already getting way hot up there.
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Contrary to what Hollywood have told us, prostitutes are rarely attractive.
You haven't seen Hollywood prostitutes!
Many years ago (shit Im getting old! :icon_cry:) I was in a night club watching my friend's band perform. I met a lovely blonde girl who approached me which is a rare thing and should be questioned, but I was young and stupid. After 20 minutes of talking and flirting, she asks if I'd like to take her home. Hell yeah! Fuck my friend and his band I'm gonna go home and get laid! Then she asks if I could give her a little cash to help her pay the bills. You know that feeling when everything just gets in focus.. yeah. I didn't get laid that night.
T love the little prostitutes you painted!
I want to see your studio straightened out. I'm thinking a thread of painting spaces is in order.
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The 3rd edition warhammer fantasy rulebook showed a gaming board that "deployed" off the wall like a fold away table in a camper... perhaps you could install one on the wall and have it "fold off of it"?
(http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/less-is-more-picture-frame-folding-table.jpg)
The back of it could be a big art project like that stuff you did on the bridge!
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That's a very cool half story hobby/studio space. I'll bet you'll need to put that air conditioner in the window soon. I have a similar looking upstairs, albeit not finished (attic). It's already getting way hot up there.
Same here. But I haven't had any time to even go up there the past few days. Debating about doing it tonight (after I'm done screwing around on the internets for a few minutes.)
I want to see your studio straightened out. I'm thinking a thread of painting spaces is in order.
Sounds like a good idea. Just started a "show us" thread.
The 3rd edition warhammer fantasy rulebook showed a gaming board that "deployed" off the wall like a fold away table in a camper... perhaps you could install one on the wall and have it "fold off of it"?
(http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/less-is-more-picture-frame-folding-table.jpg)
The back of it could be a big art project like that stuff you did on the bridge!
I think I remember that table! Cool idea with the frame/art.
Unfortunately, I don't think it would work with the pitched walls/ceiling in the attic. But it's a big enough space that I think I can work something out relatively easily. There is an equal sized unfinished storage attic adjacent to this finished space, the door is right next to where I am standing when I too the photos. So it will be easy to put any table away.
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Started modeling the Chevaliers l'Eléphant. Going to try two of them first. Riders are de-chaos-ified and assembled. Have some gap filling & details to do, but I'm going to keep them fairly simple. My original plan was to put a caparison on each elephant. I'm still thinking of doing that, but having a few minor doubts. Also need to make up my mind how to do that -- most likely just do it with putty, but had considered trying to to use sheet styrene or a combo of the styrene + putty.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel03.jpg)
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Realized that I'd be starting off with a unit of three, so figured I may as well get all three ready at once.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel04.jpg)
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Those look great. You need to add some tusks in, however - the baby elephants don't have them, and that makes them look very young.
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awesome work , love the plog , just wondered , from what I ahve read there are no official colours for Marienburg.
Is it literally a multi colour fest?
I'm thinking about my own Militia from Marienburg, 50 men.
Would appreciate your input. :eusa_clap:
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Marienburg
The largest and wealthiest city in the Old World. Marienburg stands at the mouth of the river Reik. Marienburg seceded from the Empire in the year 2429 thanks to vast bribes and the greed of Emperor Dieter IV.
Now ruled by Burgomeisters and powerful mercantile guilds, Marienburg fields a large army that includes many well paid mercenaries. The Marienburg colours are red, blue and yellow, and sumptuous showy uniforms are commonplace.
ref:Uniforms and Heraldry of the Empire pg 58
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Marienburg
The largest and wealthiest city in the Old World. Marienburg stands at the mouth of the river Reik. Marienburg seceded from the Empire in the year 2429 thanks to vast bribes and the greed of Emperor Dieter IV.
Now ruled by Burgomeisters and powerful mercantile guilds, Marienburg fields a large army that includes many well paid mercenaries. The Marienburg colours are red, blue and yellow, and sumptuous showy uniforms are commonplace.
ref:Uniforms and Heraldry of the Empire pg 58
My Marienburg Army is Orange + black with little blue accents. Paint yours however you like.
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I started down the Marienburg path in a previous edition. There weren't any "official" colors (that I was aware of) and the army was described as being a lot of hired mercenaries. So I went with a landsknecht mercenary look.
I've kept a few things "uniformed" like my knights (since they belong to a knightly order) and the halflings (not uniforms, per se, but just more earthy & similar colors) where appropriate. I have also been considering doing some of my own "Regiments of Renown" (fluff, not rules) some of which may have uniforms.
Those look great. You need to add some tusks in, however - the baby elephants don't have them, and that makes them look very young.
I'm planning on tusks for all of them. Paint should also help take some of the "happy" look away from them as well. A few will probably end up with a few pieces of armour. (I know at least one will be getting an armoured head plate.)
I'm contemplating an idea... what do you all think of making a unit champion riding in a howdah instead of just on the elephant's back?
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While Marienburg's colors may have been established, remember that the city is home to many powerful burgomeisters, merchants, mercenaries and lords, Most of which would have private armies that would fight in times of need I'm sure. After all many would have financial interests tied up in the city and therefore would have a vested interest in helping to protect it. Therefore I would imagine anything goes as far as color selection.
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Howda sounds like a great idea. That would make it clear who is Da Boss.
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Little baby elephant knights befuddles the brain.
Awesome work as always.
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Just love the elephants
:::cheers:::
fbjorn
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No progress on the elephants, but I did paint a courtier (mage?) and a semi-civilian (militia?)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/tf06.jpg)
The guy on the left if from AEG, from the Clan Wars range. I imagine him as being a merchant-envoy in Marienburg who happens to get caught up in... whatever.
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Meant to post this last time. I took the pic for the "whole army pic" thread. Not the best quality, but I don't have a good spot to take a pic like this at the moment.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/mburgjuly2012.jpg)
Also, in the "how many points" thread, I came up with the below inventory of painted stuff.
68 swordsmen (476)
78 spearmen (390)
37 handgunners (333)
15 archers (49)
10 crossbowmen (90)
12 knights (264)
25 greatswords (275)
7 pistoliers (126)
2 HRL (240)
1 HVG (120)
3 mortars (300)
5 cannons (600)
2 steam tanks (500)
+ misc. extras (spare musicians, standards, casualties, militia, etc.)
5 engineers (325)
5 mages (325)
2 warrior priests (170)
1 infantry GotE (95)
1 mounted GotE (95)
1 infantry BSB (75)
1 captasus (105)
I don't have exact numbers on the unpainted stuff, but generally I think I've got a good 70+/- of the old plastic state troops, which will probably end up as halberdiers, some DoW figures -- the only relevant ones probably being about 15-20 crossbowmen, plus two boxes of the Zvezda Royal Infantry, which could be build for a mix of troop types (about 40 figures total??) about 20 Artizan pikemen + 5 more Foundry pikemen, 10 or so handgunners, a dozen plastic GW spearmen, a unit of 30 Front Rank billmen (halberdiers) and a couple boxes of Perry medievals that could possibly end up in the Empire army. Plus the demigryph alternatives I'm working on, a few more heroes, etc...
So in terms of the above, if I keep painting, I'd revise, round and/or add the approximate troop totals as:
70 swordsmen
100 spearmen
100 halberdiers
30 greatswords
30 archers
50 handgunners
30 archers
12 knights
6 demigryphs
30 greatswords
7 pistoliers
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Thinking about the WFB of my youth. My friends and I used to get together over Christmas/winter break and play a giant multi-day game of WFB, trying to put as much of our armies on the table at once. We still used a pre-determined points limit. We also had some really basic scenario rules (usually just an objective, centered around capturing Santa Claus and his sleigh of goodies.) This was way back in the days of 3rd edition.
At any rate... thinking about a big game now. Bigger than what's pictured in the above image. Need to get back to painting!
Also: buildings. Still have a couple of the Armorcast buildings to put together. Also I may or may not have just downloaded a PDF of the old Warhammer Townscape book. I previously had and assembled these buildings, but I have no idea what happened to them. I may use the theoretical PDF that I don't necessarily have as a guide for some scratch built buildings.
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Hi Zero.
Must have been a 3rd edition thing...Me and my friends also met in holidays and made up those really too ambitous scenarios and campaigns...lasting for 2 days :- )
Each one had lots of minis, nothing painted, even the Heroquest miniatures were thrown in, but gaming 10000p each side lol, dreaming of greatness... Was alway good fun tough. Remember the Frostblade?
Cheerio RAS
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Also: buildings. Still have a couple of the Armorcast buildings to put together. Also I may or may not have just downloaded a PDF of the old Warhammer Townscape book. I previously had and assembled these buildings, but I have no idea what happened to them. I may use the theoretical PDF that I don't necessarily have as a guide for some scratch built buildings.
That book that you may or may not now have can be brilliant for using as "templates" for making foamcore buildings, print them out then transfer to the foamcore, instant template!!
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Thinking about the WFB of my youth. My friends and I used to get together over Christmas/winter break and play a giant multi-day game of WFB, trying to put as much of our armies on the table at once. We still used a pre-determined points limit. We also had some really basic scenario rules (usually just an objective, centered around capturing Santa Claus and his sleigh of goodies.) This was way back in the days of 3rd edition.
At any rate... thinking about a big game now. Bigger than what's pictured in the above image. Need to get back to painting!
We used to arrange "Gathering of Might" games, inspired by some of the big battles found in certain issues of White Dwarf. This was 4th and 5th edition. We also still used points values, partly so we could load our characters to the teeth in the interest of making things "bigger and better". Ah, the follies of youth.
Of course, it's only the desire to play some really massive games that keeps me painting when realistically I don't need to keep adding to the army.
I used to think that every Warhammer player dreamed of having a huge army to play big games with, but I've discovered relatively recently that most people seem content with a moderate army (of perhaps 3,000pts) before moving onto another race and working on variety. So, it seems that everyone else is strange, and we're normal. Right?
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Remember the Frostblade?
In our regular league games we had a gentlemens' agreement that nobody would use it. :-D
That book that you may or may not now have can be brilliant for using as "templates" for making foamcore buildings, print them out then transfer to the foamcore, instant template!!
Do you trace them and then cut out only certain parts in foamcore? Not sure how to do the corners & tabs because of the added thickness.
We used to arrange "Gathering of Might" games, inspired by some of the big battles found in certain issues of White Dwarf. This was 4th and 5th edition. We also still used points values, partly so we could load our characters to the teeth in the interest of making things "bigger and better". Ah, the follies of youth.
Actually, I think that in huge games the kitted otu characters and other powerful stuff becomes more diluted. Because a single model that will dominate a 2000 point game will only be significant in one part of the battlefield in a 10000 point game. Same thing with a single catastrophic die roll.
I used to think that every Warhammer player dreamed of having a huge army to play big games with, but I've discovered relatively recently that most people seem content with a moderate army (of perhaps 3,000pts) before moving onto another race and working on variety. So, it seems that everyone else is strange, and we're normal. Right?
I do both. I've always had multiple armies until now. When I recently sold my Skaven, it dropped me down to one army for the first time. My army timeline went something like...
Skaven & Dwarfs
Skaven, Dwarfs & Chaos
Skaven & Chaos Daemons
Skaven, Chaos Daemons & Gobbos
Skaven & Gobbos
Skaven, Empire & Gobbos
Skaven & Empire
Empire
Strictly speaking, I've also got a small WE collection that I've rarely played and is pretty outdated and too small to call an army since I got rid of the plastic archers. It's mostly 3rd ed. metal archers, wardancers and the old WE chariot.
Right now I'm just going to keep painting Empire because I like the figures and enjoy painting them.
Still, a huge game would be fun. :-D
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A few more odds & ends, two more plastic spear and two more Foundry pikemen.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/prpwht01.jpg)
I'm hitting a point where I'm a bit torn about what to do next. I've got a boatload of spearmen, and finally got plenty of artillery crew. I don't need to boost the other existing troops either, except maybe a few more greatswords. But I'd like to clear out the rest of the pike & spear figures that I've got primed & ready to paint. There aren't a ton, so it's not a huge undertaking -- just a few more rounds like Ive been doing (4-8 mixed figures at a time) and I should be done. But on the other hand, I'd like to get to some of the other stuff. Like a massive unit of halberdiers.
I still want to work on the Chevaliers L'Elephant, but I'm just not in the mood to sculpt at the moment, and that's the point I've hit with them. (Actually, I'm really in the mood to sculpt -- just not gaming minaitures, but that's for another forum...)
Scratch building a Huricannum to work with the modular war-wagon I've got is another thing I'd like to get to.
The other route I could take is to continue with pikemen (I also have about 20 more Artisan figures) plus paint up some of the DoW I've got, and use that book for a bit of a change. I do love me some pike.
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That book that you may or may not now have can be brilliant for using as "templates" for making foamcore buildings, print them out then transfer to the foamcore, instant template!!
Do you trace them and then cut out only certain parts in foamcore? Not sure how to do the corners & tabs because of the added thickness.
1.Print them out(the hard part is figuring which page belongs to what :icon_eek:)
2.Cut out the pieces, including doors and windows
3.Use sticky tape to join the sides, front, back, etc together to form your template.
4.Trace/glue/sticky tape this onto thick card...
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh482/David_Body/Empire/Scenery/Image002.jpg)
5.Cut it out
It its now at this point that you have a choice of which way to build it. I simply transfer it onto my foamcore and cut it out, when it comes to the wall joints i just cut half way through the foamcore and bend it into the box it needs to be(the paper at the back you didnt cut through holds it all together). The gaps at the corners are filled with balsa wood, cut to size(either flush or sticking out a little for character)
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh482/David_Body/Empire/Scenery/CombinedHouse.jpg)
You could also just cut out all the walls and join them,(note that the roof as printed may not fit depending on which method you use!!)
Once the glue dries, its a simple matter to cut a roof out of thick card, then add details..... more card in various strips to add to the walls. I also use match sticks etc etc for windows(and window sills), doorways etc etc. Use your imagination, the more details you put the better the model.
Then for the roof.......
Cut twice as many tiles as you think you'll need for the roof. Then make three times that. It should be enough for half the roof. Glue.
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Sweet! :eusa_clap: I'm definitely going to try it, including some of the extra details as you did.
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I've updated the first page. My project list was waaay out of date, and it was really an inconvenient way for me to keep track of what I'm doing. Google Docs to the rescue! Plus I've gone through some more boxes & counted figures up (and found more that I dind't know I had!)
If you're really curious to see the numbers of painted, WIP, and unpainted (plus totals) you can view the spreadsheet at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmWnOHNZEk4TdGFnRGx6VWljcEtYbW5ERFkxT2pqQkE
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Trying out a new color scheme. Just on one figure for the moment.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/pnky.jpg)
I've got another small group almost finished in a red & yellow scheme.
I think I need to do some more 3-color schemes (red/green/white, blue/orange/yellow, red/yellow/black, etc.) again. Plus new color combos like the one above or more of that test figure I did in brown & grey a while ago.
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Hmmmm. Looks a bit like sherbert.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ly-DoG8Wb0
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Sweet! :eusa_clap: I'm definitely going to try it, including some of the extra details as you did.
Although IF you add different detail(like signage etc)you do not have to add much, basing it is optional too
3 STRAIGHT FROM THE BOOK(note the one at the front, the tiles on the roof were cut with jaggered scissors brought from a Craft shop ;)
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh482/David_Body/Empire/Scenery/JailandStorage.jpg)
A Close up of the Jail
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh482/David_Body/Empire/Scenery/Jail.jpg)
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Trying out a new color scheme. Just on one figure for the moment.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/pnky.jpg)
I've got another small group almost finished in a red & yellow scheme.
I think I need to do some more 3-color schemes (red/green/white, blue/orange/yellow, red/yellow/black, etc.) again. Plus new color combos like the one above or more of that test figure I did in brown & grey a while ago.
That's wierd but quite cool.
The more colour the merrier!
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i love that
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Next group, red & yellow.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/rdyel01.jpg)
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They look very nice. Well done!
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Here's a WIP shot of the latest mercenary recruit, great orc greatsword.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gogswip01.jpg)
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amazing painting.
He looks evil i have to say !
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Hey, I have that guy too!
What is your technique for the blacklining? It seems so very crisp and clear. Are you just really steady with your brush so you don't get the other colours in there and leave the black primer showing?
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:eusa_clap:
Excellent. I love the red and yellow.
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Thanks!
Hey, I have that guy too!
What is your technique for the blacklining? It seems so very crisp and clear. Are you just really steady with your brush so you don't get the other colours in there and leave the black primer showing?
I'd like to get a few more of the great orcs (or ogres, as they seem to be calling them now.)
For the most part the black lines are where I left the primer showing. I did have to touch that up in a few places with a very fine brush (the one I save for eyes & other tiny details.) In the case of the sleeves, it was fairly easy -- I just painted the raised surface only.
So he's finished.... though I'm thinking about a few last minute touch-ups.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gogs01.jpg)
And what's potentially on deck? Another great orc greatsword, dwarf greathammer, and a couple casualties. AND.... I found the guy in the center while unpacking some other stuff. I love that figure and didn't even realize I had him!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/ondeckwip01.jpg)
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I really like your new "Batch Painting". Are you doing it for pacing or color or consistency reasons? Obviously its to move the color around between units a little bit but always about 5 figures...
Another question, those GW causalities or are they from another source?
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I really like your new "Batch Painting". Are you doing it for pacing or color or consistency reasons? Obviously its to move the color around between units a little bit but always about 5 figures...
Both. I used to paint about a dozen of the same color when I had more painting time. But work, baby, etc. I can only squeeze out a little time late at night (and that's starting to take its toll on me, I think...)
Another question, those GW causalities or are they from another source?
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1781
I've been thinking of trying to scratch build a couple of my own eventually. But I've got enough plans for thinks I'd like to do to keep about 23 clones of myself busy... so I'm not sure that will ever happen.
Painted a few of the easier figures...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/dwfcas.jpg)
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Superb painting! And that is one of the coolest Dwarfes ever made!
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Thanks! I like that figure too, though I think there are few dwarfs I may like better. Still... very expressive!
So now I'm coming down to the end of my prepped figures and have to decide what to do next. I have a couple options...
1. I already have more pikemen. So I can finish those off and bulk up the existing troops. Carry on as normal.
2. I have a bunch of unassembled plastic state troops. The old Perry designed ones, not the new inbred mutant ones. Id like to make a lot of halberdiers. So I can paint them similarly to what I've been doing -- mercenary multi-color. Or...
3. I have a bunch of unassembled plastic state troops. The old Perry designed ones, not the new inbred mutant ones. Id like to make a lot of halberdiers. Maybe I should paint them in a "uniform" an come up with fluff for them. (As a mercenary company of my own devising.)
4. Get back to my WWI planes or some other project...
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2. :happy:
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all of the above of course! just put your hands on your hips and "do the time warp" steveb
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This edition seems to reward larger unit sizes... but it seems limiting.
I will encourage numbers 2 or 3 (long over due for a personal regiment of renown 023), and not discourage your other projects.
It is my hope when you engage your WW1 plane fantasy you do so with the full power and unrestricted scope of your artistic talent and imagination.
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If I dedicate most of my unassembled plastic figures to becoming halberdiers, I could actually do two groups of 40 figures, one in the usual multi-color look, an a second group in a set of "regimental colors" or whatever you'd call it.
Edit: The downside is that I don't look forward to all that assembly. I'm interested in doing some conversions & such, but assembling 80+, or even just 40+/- figures seems daunting at the moment.
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... assembling 80+, or even just 40+/- figures seems daunting at the moment.
I think you'll find that it is not merely a momentary feeling, but such a task will always seem daunting. Do it anyway, for the sake of toy soldiers.
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I think you'll find that it is not merely a momentary feeling, but such a task will always seem daunting. Do it anyway, for the sake of toy soldiers.
"Won't someone think of the toy soldiers!?!" :-D
I've started clipping bits off the frames and sorting them out. That's step one. Only got through the first box.
In the meantime, I'll see what other odds & ends I can keep painting.
A bit of a bad pic...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/jhncps.jpg)
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Not so much time to paint lately, but I got two more of the old spearmen done.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/bluyel01.jpg)
That brings the mixed unit up to 42 figures.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gwspr42.jpg)
I still have 3 more plastic spearmen to paint, which will bring them up to 45 figures total. Plus a few command figures. So according to my count (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmWnOHNZEk4TdGFnRGx6VWljcEtYbW5ERFkxT2pqQkE&pli=1#gid=0), I will eventually be able to run a unit of 35 humans and 30 dwarfs if I separate them. Or a giant unit of 65. :evil: With the changes to 8th, I'd like to bump that up to 40 of each. I'd like to fill the dwarfs in with some of the White Knight figures. As far as the humans, not so sure. Options seem to be to either try to find a few more of those plastics second hand, track down a handful of the old metal spearmen, or use some of the 4/5th edition multi-piece plastics with spear heads from the new plastics.
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very nice!
small guys out front !
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small guys out front !
Of course. It's easier for the tall guys to attack over their heads. :-D
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I miss the days when we could field actual dwarves in our empire armies. Good to see them sneaking back~
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I'm hoping to sprinkle some other races into my army eventually. Problem is right now I only have a few of the old 4th edition plastic unipose dwarves. Not a lot conversion work to be done with them, thinking about extending their axes and making them Halberds or spears or something.
Great work on this Zero, your painting is very crisp and detailed. Keep it up!
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Lovely unit of Spearmen, Dwarfs and Halflings? Who is your champion? The halfling?
Can we get a picture with the Orc Greatsword in the unit? How does he compare?
Will we see some Elves in here to?
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Lovely unit of Spearmen, Dwarfs and Halflings? Who is your champion? The halfling?
The halfling, of course. :mrgreen:
Can we get a picture with the Orc Greatsword in the unit? How does he compare?
Here he is with the greatswords, which also includes a few dwarfs and one of the Marauder ogres. The Foundry Great Orc is about the same size as the ogre. Using those two figures, and including the one human I'm currently working on (he's hidden in the back) I can field this unit at 35 models.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gsunit01.jpg)
Will we see some Elves in here to?
Going with the fluff of Marienburg, I've got a few "sea elves." So far I have very few and have kept them to their own units.
A detachment of 5 archers. Apparently out of practice, as they use the regular human stats. :wink:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/sea01.jpg)
Back when we could take DoW in the list, I was working on some "light cavalry" as well, but never got past the first figure...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/sefc01a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/sefc01b.jpg)
I've really got a love/hate thing for those Reaver figures -- the horses in particular.
However, I am increasingly tempted to try some more. Part of me wants to keep them separate and more like the standard HE, as they remain aloof from mere human fashions and tastes. On the other hand it's very tempting to puff & slash some converted elves.
Alternately, the elf pirate figures from Black Scorpion also look great. (Unfortunately I can't seem to find them on their web page at the moment.) (Actually, all of their pirates look great -- human, elf, dwarf, undead, gobbo...)
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Lovely units! Multi-racial for teh win!
Also those horses are superb, both your painting but also the model. I've found that they are about the same size as more resent Human Horses (and how does that sound??) so I'm mixing some into my Empire units. Got one half of one in my knights unit so far, and am saving some for a second unit of pistoliers.
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Finally finished this guy, he was hidden in the back of the greatsword unit recently posted.
I forgot I had picked this guy up in a trade at some point, until I was unpacking more stuff recently. I love the figure but I'm not terribly happy with the way he turned out. I think I should have gone with more eye-popping bold colors. All that white is a bit boring among the usual riot of color in my army.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/rwb02.jpg)
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he's got popping blue and purple. I like him a lot, stellar painting as always! It also helps that I haven't seen that sculpt before, where is he from?
...and for what it's worth, I think the evil grin ponies are terrible! I always liked the riders, you could probably pick up the current reaver horses for cheap, they come in the box game but don't see much use as far as I can tell.
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I love the paint job on him. That is my favorite empire model but I have never even seen one in person. it's like pulling teeth to find those guys.
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where is he from?
http://www.solegends.com/marauder/mm61ftrcmd.htm
I have (and painted) FC3, 4, & 5. I am still hunting for FC1 & 2.
...and for what it's worth, I think the evil grin ponies are terrible!
It's the grin that bugs me. The rest of the horse (and rider, of course) is fine. Actually, I really like the body, mane, etc. if the face wasn't so... human.
That is my favorite empire model but I have never even seen one in person. it's like pulling teeth to find those guys.
Definitely in my top 10 favorite Empire models. I was so happy when I realized I had him after I had recently been trying to find one online again!
Speaking of top 10, maybe I should make a photo-list of my favorite 10 Empire models.
Off hand, contenders would be those three FC figures mentioned above, the old captain with a big warhammer that I use as my foot GotE, both versions of Marius Leitdorf (though I admit, I have not seen the new one in person), Leonardo, the old metal halberdier I used as a standard bearer... I'm sure I can come up with a few more. That's limiting it to humans. I could easily add one dwarf, one ogre and one halfling to that list. :-D
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The model looks great to me 023! Maybe when he's amongst those flashy coloured comrades of is he will indeed not be as noticeable. On the other hand, all the white might just make him stand out!
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Finally finished this guy, he was hidden in the back of the greatsword unit recently posted.
I forgot I had picked this guy up in a trade at some point, until I was unpacking more stuff recently. I love the figure but I'm not terribly happy with the way he turned out. I think I should have gone with more eye-popping bold colors. All that white is a bit boring among the usual riot of color in my army.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/rwb02.jpg)
The chap look great! But you could easily swap the white for yellow or orange if you want him more colourful.
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The chap look great! But you could easily swap the white for yellow or orange if you want him more colourful.
You are correct. But I am lazy and once I am "done" with a figure I usually move on to one of the (too many) others that are still unpainted. :unsure:
After completing my Pleasant Surprises V figure and it has been received, I took a bit of time to consider what to do for our local Grillfest miniature swap and came up with this...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/gfst12a.jpg)
I had picked up the figure in a trade at some point, but had no use for it. The previous owner had started converting & assembling it, so I tried to tidy up the figure before painting. The base is left unfinished, because I don't know who will get it -- hopefully someone with a chaos army who can make use of it and base it to match their own!
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Work in progress shot of what I'm working on now...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/mstbst01.jpg)
Der Meister Springer?
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Those two are coming out really nice, keep it up!
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Big thug and little thug, both with mad stylez? Hilarious! :icon_lol:
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OK, here's the finished Master-Blaster Empire thugs, and one more casualty to add to the pile. I don't know WTF is going on with the lighting, one is too bright, one is too dim.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/mstbst02.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/lonecas.jpg)
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"Who run Marienburg?"
:wink:
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:::cheers:::
You sir are one of my favorite painters....both your figure choice and your excellent use of color to bring out the best in the sculpts are truly inspiring.
thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Blue
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Yes, I admire your painting too. Do you play a lot with your models? They must look amazing on the tabletop.
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Thank you for the flattering comments!
I used to play all the time, traveled to nearby tournaments (those within a few hours drive,) etc. But work, parenthood, and growing disappointment with both 8th edition and the tournament scene has slowed me down. I just played my first few games in about a year last week. I have some more games coming up in another week.
I have finished the last three plastic spearmen that had remained unpainted. That should bring the total (of those figures) to 33. I'm going to paint up (or temporarily borrow from another unit) a set of 3 command figures, which will bring the unit up to 36. So I just need to find at least 4 more old spearmen, either plastic or metal. I may convert a few of the old multi-piece plastics, like I did for the Pleasant Surprises figure I did (pic a few posts back) but I think I will need some more of the new plastic spear heads.
I thought I would try some "softer" and more subdued colors on these guys.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/lstspr01.jpg)
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I thought I would try some "softer" and more subdued colors on these guys.
Well somehow, that doesn't reflect the idea of Marienburg for me... Marienburg shouts flashy colours to me.
But they are also very nicely done, I wish mine will someday be as nice as yours. And within the same timespan.
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whoa! I really like those subdued color schemes. steveb
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So I just need to find at least 4 more old spearmen
Check the Trading Post - Swan-of-War (IIRC) just posted in there; he has a bunch to sell, and may be willing to help out.
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Thomas, swing by my house and I'll give you four of mine...bonus point for bringing the baby over. I'm hungry for toes!
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Darknight, Krannest, thanks. I'll think about it. I dug out enough bits to make 4 spearmen from old 4th ed. plastic halberdiers. I ended up having enough of the current spear heads to do it. The down side is that every one of those old plastic multi-piece figures I use, takes away from my future halberd megahorde. The up side is that it might be cool to have a little variety in the front rank or two of spearmen...
Working a bit tonight. Old dwarf wizard and another casualty. One can never have enough dwarf mages. Or casualties.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/dwiz01.jpg)
Also putting a bit more paint on an upcoming standard bearer. Here's a work in progress shot...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/stdltwip01.jpg)
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I liked your subdued colour very much, not extremely Marienburg perhaps, but it adds a little more variety which always is a good thing. One can get a little bored by only using primary colour I think.
Also superb Dwarf mage!
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I love that Dwarf Wizard.
Wish I had one.
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I actually put the dwarf wizard to use this weekend as a lore o' shadows mage. He did well.
For the second time in a month, I played some WFB! That makes 5 games now in the past year... all within a few weeks time. I might be back, time permitting. This time it was with my newer gaming group, B.R.E.W.S. We met at W-E.com forum member Haus Krannest's house (haus?) for his fifth annual Grillfest. As with previous years it was WFB (and grilling) during the morning & afternoon, and board games (and grilling) in the evening. WFB was played at 1600 points, I think we had 8 players. A few others couldn't make it til later, we probably had about twice as many people total. A couple of photos from early in the day, before everyone showed up:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gf12a.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gf12b.jpg)
We played three rounds. My games were against a witch hunter themed Empire army, mercenary Ogre Kingdoms, and fast (all skirmish or mounted) Dogs of War. Against all odds and thanks mostly to blind luck, I smashed all three opponents and ended up winning the first ever BREWS Cup, photographed below immediately after I got it, but before I had a chance to wash it and pour the beer directly in to it.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gf12-gmmug.jpg)
As part of the festivities, we have a painted miniature exchange. Bringing a painted figure to trade is part of the "admission price." I posted pics of my contribution previously. This year I came home with a beautiful undeadish conversion of the Archaon figure. My photo doesn't do it justice (I think I still need to work on better lighting.)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gf12-arc.jpg)
Later on, in the boardgame phase of the Grillfest, I got to play the light-hearted King of Tokyo and one of my favorites, Betrayal at the House on the Hill.
I haven't been around much. No time for gaming, record low interest in WFB the past year or so, etc. Plus a few of the other guys (and/or spouses) who aren't around as much showed up too. So it was good to just see everyone, BS about games and not-games alike. I don't get much free time or chances to play games or even just be social anymore... so it was a much needed break. I really need to get more of this sort of thing.
Coincidentally, but unrelated to the Grillfest, I also received one of the few new figures I've bought lately, in the mail on the same day.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/dbot-parts.jpg)
What is it? DemoBot (http://freeboardgamesnow.com/demobot60mmtall.aspx). I have no game use for it, I just love the look of the figure & wanted to paint one up.
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That looks like a great event. Grill + Warhammer + nice weather + outdoors in the shade = awesome
Beware of greasy fingers when moving figs!
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That looks like a great event. Grill + Warhammer + nice weather + outdoors in the shade = awesome
+1
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"I have (and painted) FC3, 4, & 5. I am still hunting for FC1 & 2."
I have FC2, 3, and 4 but have never seen FC5 until now. I knew someone who had FC1 but wouldn't give him up.
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I have the whole set...oddly FC1 seems to be harder to find than the others...whichis odd because he is the most boring one of all.
You outdoor game looks like a blast zero....glad to see you back in the saddle.
Children don't have to be the end of the fun...they just force us to re-prioritize our hobbies a bit... :::cheers:::
Blue
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Haven't really done any painting, but I may be encouraged to change that. I did a little bit of purchasing lately. Expecting two parcels in the mail. The first one arrived today. The big and the small...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/DSCF3232_zpsc7c2e879.jpg)
You can't really tell, but the blister box is still sealed and the foam padding has broken down into what appears to be part blob, part powder. :ph34r:
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WOW!
I hope you don't have any lead rot in that - that can sometimes happen with older models in the foam.
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Nope. Luckily it looks pristine. :happy:
Just dropped the hobbits & their stew in the Simple Green. Going to hold off on the giant for a minute... trying to decide if I want to assemble & paint him "stock" or to do a bit of sculpting on him. Maybe I should get a second one so I can do both. :-D
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Maybe I should get a second one so I can do both. :-D
Surely the money could be spent on something less expensive, like a solid-gold copy of Kate Beckinsale?
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Well crap, now I'm in the mood to paint (but not build or prep) and the only things I've got primed & ready to go are:
More handgunners (have far too many)
More swordsmen (have far too many)
More artillery crew -- but only the "in charge/engineer" look guys, not just schlubs with buckets, ammo or swabs (have far too many anyway)
Dwarfs... which as cool as they are, I just don't feel like painting, especially as half of them also fall into the "handgunner" category.
...well, that's about it.
Obviously I need to prep some more important stuff... like putting together a horde of halberdiers, or finishing those damned demi-gryph-substitute elephant knights.
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or finishing those damned demi-gryph-substitute elephant knights.
I would highly suggest you start doing just that! otherwise.... Ninja's!
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It's not much, but here's where they are now:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel05_zpscc3b2777.jpg)
I've filled in all the gaps on the riders, they're ready to paint. Tusks on two 'phants, but I need to find one last set of tusks.
I tried sculpting a caparison on one of them, but it looked awful so I removed it. Not sure if I want to do anything further. I kinda sorta maybe want to put some armour on the 'phants, but can't decide how to go about it. Might just leave them nekkid & get on with the painting. (Once I find something to use for that last set of tusks.)
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Picture link in the last post is broken for me. Tried reloading several times but nothing. Could just be my machine. Could just be my luck.
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My second parcel arrived!
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/ufgiant01_zps21e193d1.jpg)
I've been wanting to check out some of the Ultraforge stuff for a while. Took it out of the box & looked at it. VERY nice model. Well sculpted. There's a little bit of flash, but well cast. I do have one criticism, and that's the gate/tab for casting the head is on the chin. It's a pretty prominent location. If they had put it on the back of the head or somewhere else it would be easier to clean up & less visible. But otherwise it looks great. Dry fit went together nicely. I like the looks of some of the other models, so maybe at some point...
While I was digging around in the bits bins looking for something suitable for elephant tusks, I came across some old figures that I may paint up...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/civtreas_zps73b964d8.jpg)
Some dwarf civilians to go with my humans. I believe they both came with the Goblobber kit back around 3rd ed. I still have a bundled pile of gobbo ammunition too, but the crew and catapult are long ago traded away. The two on the left are some (very) old pre-slotta townies. They look like elderly hobbits compared to modern figures. So maybe that's what they'll get used as.
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Continuing to dig through boxes that still haven't been unpacked since last summer's move! Found a few more things I'd like to make time to paint sometime.... well, sometime.
To feed to my irrational fascination with giants lately, I found this 90mm Andrea landsknecht I had stored away...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/90mlndsk_zps80ad1dc0.jpg)
He looks like he'll be around the same size as the Marauder giant, but with more natural proportions. The flamberge is a bit delicate. Might have to replace it if I want to actually paint this up and use it for gaming instead of just display.
Here he is on their shop.
http://www.andreadepotusa.com/en/1/andrea-miniatures/108/classics-in-90-mm/205/s8-f08-doppelsldner-1520.html
(I managed to score mine in a clearance bin at Historicon for $5 a few years ago.)
A good thing I came back to post this. I forgot about those poor halflings in the jar of Simple Green since I posted about it weeks ago!
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If you decide not to game with it, I was thinking it could make a great terrain piece. Like some kind of colossal statue.
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paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant!
do please paint that giant! :biggriin:
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That would be a very cool giant for an Empire army - I never liked the idea that all giants in Warhammer are deformed and strange.
Could you perhaps replace the sword blade with something a little more robust? White metal is very soft and bendy; could you make a replacement from thicker metal, or plastic?
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paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant! paint the giant!
do please paint that giant! :biggriin:
:::cheers:::
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If you decide not to game with it, I was thinking it could make a great terrain piece. Like some kind of colossal statue.
I did do that with a broken resin Te(sti)clis that I had. But I really love the idea of having an Empire statue. I think my desire to use him as a giant is going to win out, though. Maybe I will try sculpting some puff & slash on top of some other big figure in the future for use as a bit of terrain.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/terraplog/arst01.jpg)
paint the giant! .... paint the giant!
do please paint that giant! :biggriin:
Which one? I've got 4 of them waiting to be painted! :wink:
That would be a very cool giant for an Empire army - I never liked the idea that all giants in Warhammer are deformed and strange.
I'm kind of mixed on that, but given that I've got ogres, orcs, halflings, etc. in my army, I do like the idea of a puffy/slashy giant who "cleaned up well." I'll have to use him in a DoW version of my Marienburg army, though.
Could you perhaps replace the sword blade with something a little more robust? White metal is very soft and bendy; could you make a replacement from thicker metal, or plastic?
I could do it with sheet plastic, though it would be a lot easier to carve out a zweihänder instead of a flamberge. I was thinking about it last night, and I still end up with a problem of being fragile. The blade would be OK, but I would have to assemble it from multiple pieces (blade, hilt, guard, etc.) and those joints could end up being almost as fragile. I may try sticking with this one that came in the kit (and it's actually really well done!) and hope that no one ever grabs it by the sword.
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You should make his weapon a big stone hammer kind of like the one the Empire Ogre Maneater has! Make it look like he ripped it off a statue.
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You should make his weapon a big stone hammer kind of like the one the Empire Ogre Maneater has! Make it look like he ripped it off a statue.
But the sword is pimpin'!
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Yeah, I've got to agree, the sword is kinda pimpin. Especially in the world of giants.
So I did actually start assembling one of the big guys....
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gryphgen01_zps3b18504d.jpg)
...but not one of the giants. The rider is assembled as well, and both are magnetized, though they fit a bit oddly. Going to have to sculpt a bit of padding under the saddle to correct that. I've honestly been wanting to work on this guy forever. I've had the color scheme painted out on a paper version for years. I know this is a divisive model people either love it or hate it. Personally it's y favorite GW griffon.
I might keep assembling for a few days, and work on some of those giants. Or not. Maybe I will paint. We'll see. I also converted the last four spearmen I need (for now) and primed them up. I think I've also finally come to some conclusion on how to armour-up the Chevalier L'Elephante, so they may finally start making more progress too.
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Squeezed out some time & decided that my Chevaliers L'Eléphant were what needed done first. I've been struggling to figure out a way to "dress up" the elephants, and haven't come up with anything I really liked. So for this first set of three, I am giving them a motley array of armoured bits. Rider and beast will be adorned in gold (colored) armour & equipment, as it fits with the fluff I've come up with (more later) regarding these demi-gryph-alternatives being a combination of practical & war-hardened, but showy in their display of wealth.
Anyhoo, here's the first. He's actually the one I like least of the three, but I wanted to test out the colors & such on one first before doing the other two. I haven't added a heraldic device to his shield yet, and I feel that he was a bit rushed, but I have very little time to paint anymore, so I'm doing what I can to get any painting in. What I *am* happy with is the fact that the elephants no longer look like happy baby elephants. (If you look back through the old posts, when I first posted pics of the original toys, that was one of the concerns.)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel06b_zps5179645f.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel06a_zpse029cb41.jpg)
So I'm hoping to work on the other two soon. I'll be on vacation in Austin, TX later this week, so it will probably be a week or so before I can sit at the painting desk again. After those, I've the last four spearmen needed to complete my old unit, plus some final putty-work on the Griffin from the lat update, then maybe on to the giants...
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Have you thought about adding some scars to the elephants? Maybe a notched ear? Or a bandage around a leg?
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That elephant is absolutely fantastic! I really love the armor pieces - they look awesome. Really, really very cool.
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Second Chevalier l'Éléphant done. Well, mostly done. I forgot to add the straps on the leg armour, so I will have to finish that next.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel07d_zps44100f1d.jpg)
I'm not totally happy with the armour, and I think I will break it up a bit (partially on advice from one of the guys in the local gaming group) with some black. But I'm going to do them all in gold first, then go back and touch them up a bit.
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they look impressive.
I had my doubts during the WIP phases but the painting turned allright.
Btw you might want to call them Chevalier d'Éléphant (plural: Chevaliers d'Éléphant) because that means Knight(s) of the elephant or Elephant Knights.
Chevalier l'éléphant translates into "knight the elephant"
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Thanks. When I was looking for a translation, I found an Order of the Elephant or something similar, which is where I found the l'éléphant. My knowledge of the French language is unfortunately very limited. :icon_redface: (I'd love to have the time to learn!)
I think the tusks really helped make them less "cute."
The last one is about 80% finished. After he's done, I'll do the bases & post a pic of all three.
After that, on to some giants. I just assembled two of those, but need to do a little putty work to fill some joints. In related news, I saw a good deal on another Marauder giant, and since I had the better part of a bottle of wine in me.... well, he's in the mail. That means I've got one to keep as it was created, and a second one to convert!
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I think "Chevaliers l'Elephant" is a good name for them - even though it is not grammatically correct, it seems apropos; suggesting (accurately!) that the Elephant is the one doing the work!
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Those Demilephant Knights are really cool! :D As you say, they could perhaps do with something to break up the solid metallic of the armour, and maybe some detailing on the shields, but they look great nonetheless!
Theo
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I think "Chevaliers l'Elephant" is a good name for them - even though it is not grammatically correct, it seems apropos; suggesting (accurately!) that the Elephant is the one doing the work!
Haha. Good point!
Those Demilephant Knights are really cool! :D As you say, they could perhaps do with something to break up the solid metallic of the armour, and maybe some detailing on the shields, but they look great nonetheless!
Thanks. Yes, I'm going to add some sort of heraldry to the shields, I just haven't decided what to paint on them yet.
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Other than the shields and a little detail work on the bases, I'm calling the 'phants "done." I'm too lazy to repaint the armour, and now that I see them all complete, I think I'm OK with them the way they are.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/chevel08_zps79d50766.jpg)
Got another giant. A Reaper figure, got it cheap. Shes the smallest giant I've got so far. I think her sad axe should be replaced.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/cheapgiantcomp2_zps4af15cfd.jpg)
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Is she not wearing a bra? Hussy.
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She is. It's fur-lined. Better shot at Reaper's site: http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/giant/latest/02622
See also:
(http://www.monsterbashnews.com/front/OneMillionYearsBC'.jpg)
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I haven't been able to find that Cyclops toy from Safari Ltd. Every store I've been to has almost everything else, but no cyclops. I was just looking into mail ordering them and had a thought...
http://safariltd.shptron.com/p/mythical-realms%C2%AE-poseidon?pp=24
I think this could make a good Manann statue, either for a piece of terrain or as part of a war altar.
Along similar lines, perhaps with a little conversion work, this...
http://safariltd.shptron.com/p/mythical-realms%C2%AE-mermaid?pp=24
Could be turned into a statue representing the heraldic mermaid of Marienburg. Basically just chop the hands off & resculpt them to hold a sword and a sack of gold.
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eBay always has a ton of Safari, Schleck and Papo stuff on there - that is where I get all my kit.
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Excellent stuff, love the Elephant riders and the armour looks great on them.
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Misplaced my camera memory, so just a crappy phone pic of the repainted Pathfinder giant, and another shot of the original (alongside a human, for scale.) His sword was all wobbly, and was unusable since it was thin, soft plastic/rubber. So I tried for a "rusty scrap of metal" look, but not sure it's working either. At least it's not, er, flaccid.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/pfnd01_zps376f7f1c.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/pfnd00_zps0fd55667.jpg)
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Wow, that looks totally different and better! Taking the spikes off the shoulders was a good choice. I think the sword blade you have on it now works as well, even if it is a bit plain compared to the etched armor. I like how you made the flaming hair just look like some wild flowing hair with the paintjob. You'd be hard pressed to tell it is the same fig as what you started with, it looks that different to my eye. Great work.
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Thanks!
I picked up the two sea folk, to use as statues. Might use one for a War Altar, as previously mentioned. So here's a shot of the two of them along with a spearman and the war-wagon. I will build Manaan's Ride from scratch, I am *not* using the war wagon for this.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/seapeeps01_zps7577ba76.jpg)
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nice, gives me a 'Clash of the titans' feel (the old one)
Can't wait to see what you do for the wagon. Or with the other statue for that matter.
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Years after painting up the first one (on the right) I finally finished the other giant of Albion (center.) For some reason, I thought Bologs was the one with the tree and Cachtorr was the one with the menhir, but I might be wrong. I included the fire giant in the pic as well, since the phone pic kind of sucked and this shows the scale pretty well.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gnt_firealbn_zps713a2179.jpg)
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Oooo.... look what just arrived...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/DSCF3299_zps146382f4.jpg)
Here's the pic from Reaper's site:
(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/14637_p_5_mj.jpg)
It's posed remarkably similar to the old metal Elector Count on Griffin, but just a little smaller (maybe 85% the size of the GW figure.) The rider is puny. Unfortunately, the legs are cast onto the owl/griffin body. But because of the size difference, I may be able to just greenstuff over that.
I've just primed the GW griffin, so after I get this guy converted, assembled & primed, I'll post a comparison.
The griffinowl will probably be used as a pegasus.
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Haha! I've never seen that model before. Fun!
From the looks of your photo, I don't think you will have any trouble filing down the molded on legs and then covering with greenstuff.
Can't wait to see the finished model.
:::cheers:::
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Is that rider a dwarf, or just really small?
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From the looks of your photo, I don't think you will have any trouble filing down the molded on legs and then covering with greenstuff.
I think that will be the easy part. The difficulty -- I discovered after a test fit -- will be getting the rider's left leg to fit between the beast's head/ear and it's wing.
Is that rider a dwarf, or just really small?
Both. It's supposed to be a dwarf, but it's smaller than most hobbits.
I'd love it if the whole griffinowl was a little bit larger.
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:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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Thanks!
Here's the next giant, with a spearman for scale comparison.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/gnt_frstrp_zpsa59eeb41.jpg)
Speaking of the spearman/men...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/blksp00_zpse6691596.jpg)
These are obviously less colorful than most of my other infantry. I wanted to test out an idea for a new unit. The idea would be to take the "Black Band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Band_(landsknechts))" name literally as well as symbolically. So they would be literally dressed in mostly black, and my fluff would be that they are a group of Nordlanders who switched allegiance; giving in to the obvious benefits of working for wealthy Marienburg merchants. I will most likely stick with just blue & yellow as the accent colors (not red) to keep the slight hint of Nordland colors. This should also be a good way to get a pile of halberdiers (the only infantry I am lacking) painted quickly.
:engel:
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Nice idea with the giants, I might borrow it for my own WC army.
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I finished the last two spearmen for my 40 human unit...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/convps02_zpsfcba9d4e.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/spr01_zps1ab76b6e.jpg)
I just need to finish the command. Actually, after I took the pic, I remembered that I have a spare musician painted already, so this drummer will probably go into my forthcoming halberdiers. So that means I just need to finish the image on the banner and the champion.
I still have the puff & slash dwarfs, and will finish them off as a separate unit. I've got about 30 of those, and may try to supplement them with dwarfs from White Knight, which match the old GW/Marauder figures in size & character. That's probably going to be lower priority though. Like I said, some halberdiers are probably next infantry on the list. Those and maybe some crossbow. I've always used handgunners, but I'm starting to feel more crossbow than handgun all of the sudden.
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Looks really nice, a comfy retro feel to that unit :smile2:
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:eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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A great looking unit making the absolute most of those models :eusa_clap:
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I was at the store today, shopping for supplies for my daughter's upcoming birthday party (next weekend) and saw a toy that daddy had to have, as I instantly knew what I wanted to do with it...
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/snlkn01_zps7f4d8d03.jpg)
I'm actually having second thoughts, though. It might be cool to put a howdah on top and turn this into a Snail Tank instead. Or maybe I will go back and get a second snail and do both...
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Take this down now or you'll inspire GW's idea for the Dwarves new monstrous cav unit....
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Give him some letters and it's a modern version of the Pony Express ................................... :engel:
Do you use the term "snail mail" over there?
Or is that a bit shellow ............................
Marienburg's Mighty Molluscs.
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It is rumored that a whole unit of these knights went up against a brettonian force, the sole surviving knight said the last thing he remembes was the entire brettonian force screaming "ESCARGO", "get the butter", and "I got the garlic"as they charged in mass.
Just as a side note they have been banned in Buggerhoff (silent H) because they slimed the streets when they passed through and several prominent citizens fell on their prominent arses. steveb
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LOL Steve. :::cheers::: Maybe I will make him into a special character who suffer's Fear vs. Bretonnians.
Midaski, yes we've got the snail mail. I could put a postal logo on his shell. (Our mail is usually pretty good/fast, though.)
Orcslayer, my first thought was "not enough skullz" but I guess dwarfs are an exception and aren't covered with skullz. So maybe covered in runes!
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I have not read all the posts, but so far they are very inspiring. Thanks for the uploads, and great work. If the battle of who is getting the army still on, then I am ready :ph34r:
@steveb: lol, nice.