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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2008, 02:51:43 PM »
Wow. It's looking awesome man!

Thanks! I wasn't sure if the latest pics would do it justice.

Looking at the columns, I'm wondering if I should add that stone patterning to the interior walls...? It took a good amount of free time to do the columns but the walls could take a very long time to do, but the end result might be worth it. Thoughts?
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2008, 09:09:28 AM »
I think the end result will be worth it, although it will take some time. Can't you use that plate with the pattern, or is there something with that?
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2008, 03:18:32 AM »
Well I'm about out of Styrofoam parts. I definitely don't have enough to do the interior walls with it. What I have left will mostly likely be used on the tower. So If I do the interior walls it will be with card strips like the columns.
It'll probably be worth it, i agree.
So I'll do it.
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2008, 08:40:07 AM »
If you keep going like this there won't be a problem. What do you still have to do? Only the interior walls and the tower right? Affter that you can go and paint it.
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2008, 10:58:54 AM »
Castles coming along nicely. Are you going to add some wood looking supports on the inner walls or similar?
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2008, 12:29:05 AM »
I'm hoping to work on it this evening. As far as wood supports, no I wasn't It'll make more sense as you start to see some of the additions I'm going to add to it. I'm going to be fighting a space race with the inner courtyard and I'm trying to keep it as open as possible for accessability reasons. I'm going to be using wood on the tower though. I have a balcony in mind and the doors.

I have a few more holes to plug and gapes to fill, then I will prime the castle black. and begin the base coat. The tower is causing a bit of problem at the moment so I've been holding off while I figure out how to extend the top and add crenelations to it. The reason is because, I got looking at some old family pictures from my time in the UK, and you just can't find ancient towers without a walled roof or not designed for defense. The tower so far, is basically an open roof with no cover (i.e. shoot me!). I'm bothered by this and so I'm working on some solutions. One idea is take the pieces cut out the wall to make the current crenelations and apply them to the tower. I like the continuity in that idea so I'm going to experiment with that.



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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2008, 08:57:32 AM »
Hey,

this link might work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrabo_Tower

Its local tower to me with a top you might like.
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2008, 12:35:39 AM »
That IS cool! That might deserve it's own model though (hint, hint SteveB) It would make a great wizard's tower.

The Death Castle tower is going to be used as a fighting platform. If you look at the Pic in my previous post. imagine a mortor or Hellfire on the top of it instead of the one guy...
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2008, 01:40:01 AM »
PART 7

Death Castle is slowly starting to come along. I've spent a few evenings filling holes, plugging gapes, filling in cracks and smoothing over seams. Not all of them though, I am wanting the final product to maintain a 'rough' look.

Here's my assistant checking on the quality of my work:



Once that was done, I went ahead and finally spray painted the main body of the castle black. Finally, after 20 years, this Castle has been successfully painted black!




I'm sure I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but the paint I used was a floral designers spray paint called Design Masters. You can find it in the U.S. at most Arts & Craft stores or any where that sells fake decorative flowers. Here's what the can looks like, next to a piece of Styrofoam that had been sprayed with it. This is a Flat Black (gloss will not be good for the additional paint I will be applying).



This other pic shows what a blast of normal black spray paint does to Styrofoam (in case the earlier pics of Death Castle didn't reveal enough already). The spray paint used in this example was Krylon. It causes a chemical reaction that burns and bubbles away at the foam leaving very little color and obvious damage. It can be used intentionally however to create battle damage, and looks really good on some of my 40k scenery.



Coming up next, I need to tackle the tower. My goal is to have it done by the end of August. I thought my goal of December was overreaching but at this pace, and with my current work load it might be right on!

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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2008, 04:46:59 AM »
Very nice work; I do love such restoration projects :-D
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2008, 02:57:02 PM »
PART 8

Progress is slowly being made. My attempt to find the fortress door sprues ended in futility so Iíve taken the Mordheim doorframes and glued slats of balsa wood to the backside to create a door effect. Iíve not figured out how to make door handles yet but I have some ideas I want to try out. There will be three of these for the tower. One at the base, one for the wall level, and one for the balcony.



The balcony itself was fairly easy to construct. Iím currently working out how to mount it into the wall but Iím pretty sure my idea will work. The hand rail for it will take some time  to build but it should look nice in the end.



Iíve caped the tower roof with a sheet of molded plastic card with rock embossing. I cut out a square in the center that will represent the hatch opening. This is done although not shown in the picture. Again, I need to work out the handle. Currently Iím at the point where I will next work on the tower battlements and crenulations.

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« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2008, 03:18:11 PM »
Coming along nicely.
Just don't let your assistant test it too often.
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2008, 11:37:18 PM »
Its looking good.
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2008, 08:12:31 PM »
PART 9

The doors have been attached to the tower.



This was more difficult than I imagined, but so far the results look good. I still need to figure out how to make handles and hinges but I figure I can work that out bit later. Note that the upper level door will be opening up to a deck/balcony that will be used as a fighting platform.



This pic shows how the tower is going to relate to this section of the castle and I put a few models near it to get a vibe of what it all should look like after I complete it. As you can see Iíve base coated the castle walls already. Iím going to take the whole castle up to one more level of painting before I permanently mount it to the base.



Back to the tower, I began work on the towerís crenulations. The main crenulations were made from the pieces originally cut from the walls at the start of this renovation project. As they are only vaguely the same size Iím hoping this unevenness will give the appearance that this castle is old and weathered. 



This  pic shows the first two corners with a model on the towerís top to give me a sense of scale. Note that one corner has a metal tube Ďbracketedí to the towerís base. This will be a banner holder. Once the project is complete I will make a series of interchangeable banners that can be switched out during play for different occupiers. The metal tube came out of an old Motorolla cell phone (Nextel i90). Itís amazing what kind of cool junk you can get out of old tech devices, but itís usually more appropriate for 40k instead of fantasy.



Here is the tower with all of the main crenulations. In between them will be a short wall that extends the main wall up a bit to provide a tad bit more cover to the men on top. (the strips are on the "ground" of the first two pics of this post) Iíll be adding that on tonight I hope. Again, the unevenness of crenulations will help convey that old worn-torn weathered look that Iím going for. Hopefully when the whole project is down one will think that the castle and tower were always part of the same model. Iím not sure how well it can be seen in this pic but there is now a wooden door in the center of the tower roof.
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2008, 11:36:10 AM »
Heh, I've missed a coupl eof updates due to holidays, but this is looking awesome man! I love your doors and the rest of the tower. I don't know how to do the handles, but I think you can just PM steveb, he's built so many things and he's always happy to share his findings, as you may know from other threads. Keep it up!
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2008, 03:50:06 AM »
PART  10

Itís been too long since I updated this, but work has, slowly, progressed on Death Castle. Thereís been a lot of drama in and around my life (personal and work) over the past two months that has had a hard impact on my free time. The few moments of peace working on this castle have been quite rewarding. Though I doubt Iíll beat he December deadline, my ultimate goal is to hit a New Year deadline.



The first thing youíll notice, obviously, is that the tower now has paint on it. Sadly, these photos do not do the base coat justice, and the camera flash has the annoying effect of illuminating all the weird little shadow bits in the Styrofoam the paint couldnít get too, and which cannot be seen in the normal lighting. Never the less, seeing it from the perspective of these photos really helps me get critical with the whole piece; Iím definitely not done with the base coat!!!



Also, since last time, Iíve added the arrowslits. These are the ones GW made, and I was wise enough to buy two blisters of them about 8-9 years ago anticipating a project like this one. (Who says hording is bad). It really did take quite a bit of time to fill in all the gapes I could. I was so happy to reach the point when most of them were filled, that I rushed out and sprayed the tower black and didnít realize Iíd left off the arrowslits until I started to basecoat it! It was easy enough to fix though. I think they add a bit of character, and hopefully will be handy in the actual game as well.



Doors are proving to be a bit of a challenge. Iím experimenting with painting them now, as you might be able to tell from these photos. I have figured out the solution to my handle dilemma, but I wonít put those on until after the doors are finished.



Thatís a wrap for now, I hope to update sooner as I get further along with this project in the upcoming weeks.


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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2008, 04:14:19 AM »
Heh, I've missed a coupl eof updates due to holidays, but this is looking awesome man! I love your doors and the rest of the tower. I don't know how to do the handles, but I think you can just PM steveb, he's built so many things and he's always happy to share his findings, as you may know from other threads. Keep it up!
sorry I missed this when it was posted, you said you already solved your door but haven't put them on yet, so I still may be able to help. The fast mass method that I have used in the past was to take soldering wire of the correct size and wrap it around a brush handle of the size circle that I want, at this point it will look lie a coiled spring, I then cut down one side making a lot of rings all the same size. I then make a small square of thin cold pressed cardboard very thin a cut a small slit in the center, I then take a small strip of band paper or lead foil and put it through the ring hlfway t=and then fold the two tails back together, then I stick the tail throught the slit spread the tails apart and glue down and then glue the whole thing to the door and you have your handle, it will look just like the ones that GW casts on its doors.  I hope this helps some. steveb

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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2008, 04:40:14 AM »
Looks like this project is coming along well! :icon_cool: :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2008, 02:07:25 AM »
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I hope this helps some. steveb


Thanks!*  Actually, this is pretty much what I'm going to do. I've already coiled and cut the wires, I'm just waiting to be happy with how the coloring of the doors turns out before I stick'em on. In this photo (sorry, it's a bit blurry but my battery is too dead in the camera to take another pic currently) you can see the "mount" where the handle will go.



BTW, I found this method in the 'How to make Wargames Terrain" book by Nigel Stillman that GW put out way back in '96 (I can't believe it's that old now!). A good resource and I prefer it over the current version.

But Steveb, since I've got your attention, what color combinations would you recommend for an old well used, weathered door?  My current colors just aren't doing it for me.  Using ink on balsa wood has proved to be an error (it just soaks it up like a sponge, even with a light paint undercoat!).

*(also to Obi and Gamespost, thanks!)
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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2008, 07:23:17 AM »
Great progress, great job. Only 55 days to go!
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2008, 11:57:08 PM »
yeah, no pressure right?  :icon_wink:


Some one asked me to post an updated profile shot (now that the castle has a base coat). So here it is:

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« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2008, 02:10:39 PM »
Great job so far, it's looking amazing.
For all my wodden bits I use a dark green with a bit of yellow and it looks all old and weathered. Try it out on aa ice-pop stick first.Hopes this helps
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« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2008, 04:27:53 PM »
Nice! Keep it up man, you can do it!
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Re: Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2008, 10:01:26 PM »
looks awesome mate, very well done! :eusa_clap:
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Return to Death Castle: A restoration project
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2009, 12:40:32 AM »
PART 11: Return to Death Castle!

Yes, after too many months of neglect, and admittedly, modelerís block, two nights ago I returned to Death Castle. Right before Thanksgiving, I returned to 40k in a big way, and my Orks required, and still do, a lot of attention. My schedule is tough and things that require Ďa lot of attentioní taxes heavily on what little free time I have to devote to any of my modeling projects. However, with spring fast approaching I forced myself to let the boyz wait for a while and complete this project. I may have missed my deadline, but Iíd rather do this right and be ultimately satisfied than just hack my way through to a finish line.

When I last worked on this project, I was hung up on the way the castle walls have settled in such a way that mounting it to the base will become a major undertaking. I have figured out a way around that though, so when the time comes to do that part of the project, I shouldnít have too many worries.



I started right where I left off, continuing to concentrate on the tower. Upon returning to it, I decided that I hated the coloring on the doors and took a new approach. I based coated them brown and worked up a few highlights in various tan colors using mostly a dry brushing technique. Finally satisfied with that, I approached the stones. As you can see in the first photo, another layer of base coat was required.



The paints I used on the stones was Americana Graphite by DecoArt (base coat), AppleBarrel Colors Pewter Grey, and for the high light color I used Citadel Fortress Grey. Some stones are painted lighter than other others, and some darker, for a more realistic look. Iím going to go back and apply washes to a few odd stones, such as brown or terra cotta, to get an even more varied look.



I still need to highlight the stones on the roof and add the door handles before I tackle the balcony, which is still only halfway done, before the tower is done. I intend to get a lot more done on this soon.

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