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Title: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on October 17, 2010, 03:14:46 PM

Hello all,

I should at first introduce myself a bit here. I have been playing Warhammer 40k when it was still RT... (1988) and I first started to get into Warhammer itself through the roleplaying game in 86 or so. I didnt begin collecting a Warhammer army till about 86-87 and although i loved the look of the Empire, they were not as nearly well developed as they are today. My first Warhammer army was called the Disciples of Red Redemption...  I would be shocked... if anyone still remembers them. Warhammer was a lot simpler then, and battles were fought with about 12-14 figures on a side.

Anyway... I eventually went through a phase of collecting Skaven, and then moved to my favorite army Undead. By the time I collected Undead, they were just a single army, with no tomb kings in sight... but I can remember when Skeletons in the Old World still used catapults and liches were pretty good generals. One of the things though that I loved about the game was the way the lore developed for Sylvania. It was always my favorite Imperial Province and I loved the entire premise of Vlad taking command of a fallen province and turning it into a successful one before things became overtly sinister and he declared war on the rest of the Empire.

I gave the game away for a good ten years then as other things in my life took precedence but returned two years ago to begin playing 40k once again. With the start of 8th edition for Fantasy I decided to do a Dark Elf Army based off a Corsair Fleet and an Empire Army based off Sylvania before Vlad declared war in 2010 IC. (For those who don't care too much about the fluff, Vlad ruled the province for 200 years before making his move as a contender for the Throne.)

I decided therefore to create a Sylvanian Themed Army, but as also a lover of the background material and WFRP, I wrote pretty extensive background material based off the province and the various units that I would model. I enjoy the heraldry and other aspects of the Empire too. (I do love also playing competitively!)

Without further ado here is my first two regiments from the town of Leicheburg, a border town that lies on the edge of the Haunted Hills, along the border with Stirland.

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/srparkhill/Empire%20Album/SylvaniaEight.png)

(note I am aware I need to correct my spelling, however the above with do for the moment as the Heraldry of Leicheburg. If anyone is particularly interested I have an avid interest in Heraldry and am more than happy to design their army a coat of arms, just send me a message!)

The Leicheburg Halberdiers

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Baron Albrecht Rumsfeld. Unit Champion of the Leicheburg Halberdiers.

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Standard Bearer. Leicheburg Halberdiers.

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Unit Musician. Leicheburg Halberdiers.

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Leicheburg Gunners

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I do appreciate feedback and would love to know of any current background material that people have come across for Sylvania, particularly before the Vampire Wars began.

I have based the units off the Heraldry and Uniforms of the Empire, keeping Purple and Red and eventually Black as the three main colors of the force. I will eventually create one or two special units as well that might be in different colors.(The idea of a foil type force for the Stirland River Patrol based off Brown Water Pirates is going to be my first one.) What I have though in my mind is a force that would have been appropiate for Sylvania to field just prior to Vlad revealing himself as a Vampire. The Empire Army book and Vampire Counts Army book both state that Vlad rebuilt the province and as an Elector Count he was in greater control of his province than some of his fellow Counts were of their own.

What I do know is that Sylvania did not have its own Rune Fang but Otto and therefore Vlad after him were Electors and that the Sylvanian Military did march alongside the undead forces during the Vampire Wars. The previous editions of WFB included at one time the Sylvania Milita which will also feature strongly in my army as Free Company troops.

If your interested in learning more about the regiments etc and the background and places of Sylvania, I have created a blog http://sylvaniaempire.blogspot.com/ to share my progress and also use a reference guide for my own WFRP. People are welcome to follow along or even offer suggestions! I would love to know anything that people have come across about Sylvania and its history. I have already come across Mad Aldreds page which gives me through the WFRP stuff the names of the leaders of the various towns of Sylvania but if anyone knows of anything else, particularly about Champions or famous units of the province, I would be most greatful. :smile2:

Oh... and death to Count Martin and Stirland! May Sylvania rise once again and may the Empire tremble before her might.  :evil:




Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: White Knight on October 17, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
Looking good, you've got those two coulours work well together.  :happy:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: anvalous on October 18, 2010, 02:43:48 PM
Alex - Welcome!

Your models look fantastic and it shows that you've been a dedicated hobbyist for decades.  Your colors are crisp and your details are excellent.  My one comment would be to see if you could bring the metals up with an edge of your brightest silver or to add some more of your yellowed white.  The plumes are great, but I almost want some more brightness to break up the red and purple.  Just my perspecitve, of course.

As a whole, your army is going to look great.  What are you going to do for characters, if you don't mind my asking?

Ooo!!!  Idea - if you're going to go for the Sylvanians who fought with the vamps, toss in a few Empire-ized skeletons to your state troop regiments.  That'd really add some visual excitement to the units
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Immovable Object on October 18, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
As everybody has already said, the colour choice is great and your painting is nice, clean and sharp. I would echo what anvalous said about the metals although as a whole army Im not sure it will be too noticeable. I do think however you should take the time to remove mould lines and perhaps make your eyes a little more of a realistic size and shape. On the whole though, everything looks great and its good that you've taken the time to consider the background fluff for your army.  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Nicholas Ironfist on October 19, 2010, 10:20:32 AM
It warms the cockles of my heart to see Sylvanian armies...well human ones at any rate. I don't mind the eyes that much...there heroic scale :)
Nice work hope to see more  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 19, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
Your painting is fantastic even though I dislike the eyes....they look like crazydudes.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on October 20, 2010, 05:27:33 AM

Well Sylvania is full on crazies.... you know the type;

1). Nobody comes to us. The neighbours daughter looks hot... even though she is my cousin....
2). Every few years some lunatic turns up and torches our village and says old man withers was a A). Vampire B). Zombie  C). May have at one time been a member of the Communist Party.
3). Hi honey I'm home... have you lost weight darling? your arm dropped off again.

But I do think the people of Sylvania get a bad wrap somethimes. But I actually like the half nutjob look. If I can work out some fluff for a unit of flagellants who look disciplined and normal.. might make it even better. Perhaps Flagellants of Death who think they are already dead so they dont feel pain and dont show emotion? Might make a nice foil for the army. Might be something I consider later on.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. Appreciate them! Keep them coming if anyone has any.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 20, 2010, 10:01:30 AM
Make them ghosts....that DONīt believe they are dead.

Just take state troopers and paint them up with blue and drybrush white.

Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Johedl on October 20, 2010, 03:33:20 PM
You got a good looking regiment.

I chosed Liecheburg as the home town for my Stirland army as well when I started! But mine troops are in green and yellow due to the precent day situation. We should post our character's names and see if there are any Liecheburg militairy families around  :happy:

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But I do think the people of Sylvania get a bad wrap somethimes. But I actually like the half nutjob look. If I can work out some fluff for a unit of flagellants who look disciplined and normal.. might make it even better. Perhaps Flagellants of Death who think they are already dead so they dont feel pain and dont show emotion? Might make a nice foil for the army. Might be something I consider later on.

Loyal soldiers that do not fear death due to their faith in the von Carsteins power to bring them back as wights on the battle field. Their motto could be "Until death and beyond" or something better.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on November 13, 2010, 06:34:04 AM
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/srparkhill/Empire%20Album/Ivan.jpg)

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Update with the Helstrom Rocket Launcher "Arterial" and its crew "Crazy Ivan" and Deaf Tomaz, led by Gun Captain Hanz Kludenkopft. "Crazy Ivan" was responsible for mixing the chemicals for the "Arterial" and it was often discussed that he may have taken a liking to the powerful brew and would walk around in a daze for several days after mixing chemicals. He is pictured here carrying shot for a Volley Gun for unknown reasons, probably due to his addled brain.

The "Arterial" and her crew served in the early part of the greater Vampire Wars and was responsible for the destruction of the Stirland "Footsloggers" when it rockets exploded directly on target during the Battle of Hilltop Road in 2009 IC. The device was eventually destroyed in 2011 IC when it was attacked during transport.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Azyr on November 13, 2010, 12:01:41 PM
Very impressive, I like it alot  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: forthelady on November 13, 2010, 10:21:09 PM
Looks good your army!

I don't know if you know this, but there is a old white dwarf with is a story when Vlad made his move against the Empire.
The Grand Master of koww is his main opponent and got defeated. Good fluff story!

Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on June 10, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
Thredomancy.... rise, rise..... rise! Just like the Grand Army of Sylvania!

I have been very busy with other projects.... so here is an update on the Grand Army of Sylvania, which I am continuing to work on slowly.

Sylvanian Cannon. Die Stahldorn

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Circa 1994 Die Stahldorn and her second crew. The cannon was recovered from the Aver Reach at the place known as The Corpse Run.  The gun having formerly been mounted on the Nuln based Engineering College Vessel  SMS Pinaforte which ran aground and was subsequently abandoned when her paddle wheel drive shaft snapped in 1980. The gun was found to be in good working ordered although slight corrosion meant that several young children were paid half a wheel of Licheburg White Goat Cheese each to spend a week polishing the inside of the barrel. One small lad supposedly lost his finger when he reached deep inside the breach and a famous Aver eel bit him at the start of the cleaning process.


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Gewhr Hauptmann Adelard Manheim took command of Die Stahldorn in 1992. The gruff Hauptmann is so deaf that he has resorted to answering any attempt to communicate with a deft grunt. However, he has a keen eye for targets of opportunity and in 1993  managed to fire two shots into a group of goblins as they advanced on his gun emplacement. The second shot being grape ripped apart the greenskins before they could cross the last few yards to the weapon. The event set a record according to a Nuln Engineer observing the process from the next emplacement some 100 yards away however as the powder did ignite before the crew could get clear and killed both Assistant Gunners it is not something that Manheim speaks of with pride or even as an achievement.

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Stofel Tabner hails from the province of Stirland and has been marked as an outsider in his adopted town of Nachthafen. Stofel unknown to the locals is a wanted man having slit the throats of three merchants in a Inn he had been employed at. He fled Stirland and grew a beard hoping to avoid the authorities. Although working with the dangerous cannon has its moments Stofel is well aware of the greater risk should he return home he is one of the few men who can continue to heft the heavy shot for the gun with little rest.

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Young Terrell has been working with the gun crew for less than a year. Assigned to the task of cleaning and then loading the powder into the gun he follows directions from the other crew members to the letter. Terrell hopes the few copper coins that are paid to him each week will eventually be enough to show he can support Milicent Wagner the daughter of the local Alderman.


Die Stahldorn would eventually be lost at the siege of Altdorf during the great siege. The gun was said to have been crewed by Zombies as early as 2009-10 but the fate of the gun crew and the deaf Hauptmann is not recorded in any honor role inside Sylvania or Stirland.


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Enjoy.... comments welcomed.  :happy:





Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Kirgan on June 10, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
Nice I like idea with pictures  :happy:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Novogord on June 11, 2011, 05:06:51 PM
Looks like a family portrait.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: SlimShady on June 11, 2011, 06:06:07 PM
  You have some great stuff.   :::cheers:::  Really really like the color scheme. 
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Tribun on June 11, 2011, 06:44:26 PM
looking good overall, especially the skin-tone. Keep on!
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on June 19, 2011, 04:57:38 AM
Thank you all for the comments please keep them coming or ideas for the army theme.

Addition of Two Wizards to the ranks of the Grand Army.


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Ernst Pyrite and Peter Markov

Pyrite was a semi successful charlatan and minor hedge wizard well into his late teens before a member of the Imperial College found him on the streets of Nuln. Hoodwinked by the young thief over a matter of 30 silver coins the wizard decided that the stockade was far too an easy escape for Pyrite and instead turned him into a stone statue for a 30 day period in the middle of Paupers Square. When he reverted back to flesh and blood he was caked with bird droppings and had several washing lines strung about him and had the unpleasant memory of blind Freddy a filthy ancient begger urinating on him every morning before he would scratch his behind on his  arm and make deep grunting noises.

The punishing wizard however had only just started his interest in Pyrite and as he learnt the boy had a keen intellect and even keener dexterity. Making a deal between them Pyrite took on the role of apprentice to the wizard.  In 1999 with the Empire in the midst of another civil war Pyrite finally graduated from his chosen college of magic (metal) and began to look for employment with a wealthy merchant house or guild. He came to the attention of Hanz Ribbentof who was serving as the Sylvanian representative at the Altdorf Court at the time. Ribbentof employed the wizard eagerly and packed him back to Sylvania with a letter of explanation written to Vlad. Vlad was most pleased to have a member of the Gold Wizards serve his needs and Pyrite soon found himself isolated and kept in one of Drakenhoff's towers producing greater and greater quantities of gold and other precious metals to fund the growing Sylvanian military and constant remodelling of Drakenhoff and the outlying estates and baronies of those that had fallen under the sway of Vlad. When Vlad revealed himself as a Vampire to the Empire, Pyrite was a rare site on the battlefield usually kept producing and aiding the war effort from Drakenhoff. One notable exception being when he turned the Captain of the Papenheim town watch, at the Siege of Papenheim, into a solid brass block from the waist down.  After the death of Vlad, a trial in his abscence took place held at the Imperial College of Magic for him and his colleagues who had worked for Vlad where he was pronounced guilty of treason. Pyrite's fate was unknown however rumors several years after his death pointed to his capture not by forces of the Empire but by another group who invaded Castle Drakenhoff after Vlad's fall and plundered a quantity of warpstone in a daring night raid in which the attackers burrowed up from beneath the Castle and broke into the vaults.

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Peter Markov hailed from Kislev and traveled to the Imperial College as a young man with his family who were river traders all the way to the Capital. A natural affinity for Amethyst magic soon drew the attention of certain scholars of obscure book shops in the capital and his family barge tied up in the River Riek was soon visited by two representatives, one from the Imperial College and one from the Temple of Sigmar. Markov's family immediately shunned the boy when it was learnt that he had been experimenting with trying to purchase certain forbidden books to do with the uses of blood in arcane rituals. The representative of the College decided against persecuting the youth if he agreed to undergo certain tests and after passing was ushered into the Amethyst college as an apprentice. Markov took his studies seriously and in 1997 he was approached by the head of the Amethyst order to take on a special mission for the College. He was to travel to Sylvania and take on the role of Court Magician for the Count of Sylvania. The Amethyst Order had long suspected Vlad had ties to dark magic due to his retarded aging process and they hoped to discover what magics he was employing to extend his life. All too soon they would find out the truth.


 Markov when he arrived in Sylvania found himself at home with the attraction of the purple wind of magic so strong in the province and his powers continued to develop. Throwing off his fealty to the College he embraced the study of the dark arts and further study of the Amethyst school of magic and aided Vlad in his efforts to create and control large populations of the Undead. Markov was tasked with discovering the secrets of controlling the Corpse Carts that still traveled their routes through the forgotten hamlets and villages of Sylvania and by 2010 when Vlad was prepared over 20 of the foul ancient creations answered his summons. Markov was last seen alive at the Siege of Altdorf battling a valiant Priest of Ulric that had taken to the field outside the walls of the city in the final attack by Vlad. According to the Church of Ulric the priest stepped forward and smote a blow through the body of the Wizard who vanished with a cry into a dark cloud of smoke leaving his blood on the priest's hammer. Markov was never seen again inside the Empire but rumors persist to this day of an spectral figure dressed in long flowing robes of purple often sighted on the outskirts of Mikalsdorf accompanied by several corpse carts carrying a rose bound Hourglass in hand.

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Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: hwd on June 22, 2011, 12:12:31 PM
Very nice work!

I know it is a small thing but I really like the photo frames you have added to your pictures!
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Erik Von Karlson on June 22, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
Nice job so far! I really like your helstorm rocket. :happy:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog) Updated July 9th
Post by: Alexious on July 09, 2011, 09:08:50 AM
My Empire Engineer Vasaly Barsche.

Vasaly was responsible for the introduction of Black Powder weapons into the State Troops of Sylvania circa 1999 IC. Although having studied at Nuln for over 15 years he still spoke with a broad Kislev accent. His passion was rocketry and the new Helstrom Rocket Launcher he introduced helped Sylvania win several engagements in the lead up to the Vampire Wars. Rewarded with the Blood Kiss in 2009 by Pieter Van Carstein he would run afoul of Konrad and be pegged out to become target practice for captured Imperial Army Mortars.



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Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: GamesPoet on July 09, 2011, 10:04:01 AM
I like him! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::

This seems like a classic figure to me.  Couldn't decide how I wanted to paint him since I made a converted engineer for my Averland forces, I wanted mine to be a bit more generic.  Yet now that I'm sticking with Blue & Orange for my Marienburg Merchant House/Matorea/Middenland army, maybe I'll do something along the lines of your's.

Minor suggestion, try using a bit of Badab Black wash on the metal, and then maybe highlight.  It'll bring out a bit more of the detail.  When it first goes on it darkens the metal color, and that can be a bit of a surprise at first, but a little extra paint on the high points while not letting it flow into the crevaces, that can make it pop, yet just a little bit of the wash by itself can also look good.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Obi on July 09, 2011, 11:46:22 AM
I only just stumbled upon your army, but I like it! Well painted, I like the scheme and the way you do the eyes.

Now, perhaps for some core troops? :engel:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on July 16, 2011, 12:10:19 PM
New addition...

My fearless Imperial Gunners get another crew and item to help repulse the evil underhanded Stirlanders....

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Kristien Goff has been part of the Mortar crew for just over 6 long months. He still covers his one good ear to muffle the sound when the mortar is fired. He lost his hearing in one ear after his first battle in 1998 IC.

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Young Heinrich has only recently joined the army, a former farmer he has decided to seek fame and fortune in war rather than in the thin Sylvanian soil.

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Guther has been a veteran now of several wars and is a bit addled. He was assigned to carry shot for the Mortar.


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The Mortar "Cloud Burst". Named after the first battle she fought, when fired for the first time a roll of thunder engulfed the sky and it began to rain.

Enjoy..

Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 16, 2011, 05:58:40 PM
Heh.  I love the tiny cannonball next to the giant trashcan-sized mortar muzzle. 

GW kind of dropped the ball there.  Would it have been so hard to make the hole more realistically sized? :eusa_wall:

You've done a really nice job with the red/purple scheme.  It's hard to pull off because the colors are so similar to each other.  I'd suggest a little more brown or black, though, to add a little more visual interest. 

The artillery crew in particular seem a little too red/purple.  Take the guy with the hat and mop.  If you painted his hat and vest brown or black it would give the eyes a little rest from the REDPURPLE effect.  The guy with the cannonball, on the other hand, looks nice with his brown jerkin.

Your basing is also very good.  Simple, clean, beautiful, and the little tufts of grass add a nice sene of realism.  So much nicer than the "goblin green & flock" bases of the 80s and 90s.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on July 17, 2011, 06:55:12 AM


Thanks for the comments Pete.

I understand about the Red and Purple affect, however as it is crew I tend to keep it simple with stuff. Your right with the cannon balls and mortar shells... however I am cheating as it is...

1). Sylvania would have never had gunpowder that early.... (As nobody else did)
2). There was no School of Wizardry or Colleges at the time in the Empire... Teclis doesn't teach for another 200 or 300 years... so my wizards are a bit .... hmmm time warp anyone?


I also find it interesting to view how the Empire would have really developed from the Vampire Wars particularly forward and the introduction of gunpowder. In the real world gunpowder changed things fairly quickly always developing faster and better ways to kill each other. However the Warhammer worlds tech has stagnated after the development of the repeater weapons which still are not wide spread. Perhaps it has something to do with their version of black powder or cordite or whatever they are using. (Or perhaps magic is just so much more reliable when you need to level a castle wall!)

As for the Mortar... I looked at it and thought it probably should be off its wheels or otherwise it would probably break over extended firing times anyway... maybe thats why they use little balls? LOL.

Cheers. Lexi.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Deuce on July 17, 2011, 10:12:29 PM
You're fine with gunpowder. It was in use by 2000 at the latest (it appears in Mordheim) and according to the most extensive background the Steam Tanks were actually developed during the Vampire Wars, although I suspect that's an oversight. Even the earliest von Carstein background has one of Vlad's deaths caused by a cannon.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 18, 2011, 07:39:24 AM
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I also find it interesting to view how the Empire would have really developed from the Vampire Wars particularly forward and the introduction of gunpowder. In the real world gunpowder changed things fairly quickly always developing faster and better ways to kill each other. However the Warhammer worlds tech has stagnated after the development of the repeater weapons which still are not wide spread. Perhaps it has something to do with their version of black powder or cordite or whatever they are using. (Or perhaps magic is just so much more reliable when you need to level a castle wall!)

As for the Mortar... I looked at it and thought it probably should be off its wheels or otherwise it would probably break over extended firing times anyway... maybe thats why they use little balls? LOL.


The warhammer world is made of anachronisitic factions.  Brettonia represents france/england in the dark ages, the empire represents the HRE in the renaisance, TK represent ancient egypt, elves are somewhat reminiscent of ancient rome, etc. 

In the real world, technology advances at a more even rate.  If you look at europe you'll find that most war elated technologies spread rapidly throughout the continent as each ruler tried to keep up with his neighbors.  In reality, Brettonian style heavy cavalry would lose against empire style blackpowder weapons.  Those weapons were specifically designed to punch through heavy armor.  For WHFB, coolness is more important that reality.

As for your mortar, real mortars did not have wheels.  They had a box-like frame that they sat in.  The recoil would have broken a wheeled carriage.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on July 22, 2011, 01:03:58 PM

SUMPFDORF ARCHERS.

Sumpfdorf lies within the Dark Moor just inside the Northern Border. Surrounded by peat bogs and sucking mud holes, most of the town has been built on stilts to avoid the ever present dangers of the earth itself. The people are generally poor even at this time of prosperity however Sumpfdorf contributes massive ammounts of peat to the Sylvanian economy and exports of peat travel the Empire all from this backwater.

Sumpfdorf contributes to the growing armies of Sylvania with its men who are trained hunters. Few can survive upon the desolate moor without becoming skilled in the use of a bow to catch what little native fauna lives here. Gunpowder is too dangerous with the surrounding drying peat all about and the bow has always been a staple weapon of the townsfolk. The men of Sumpfdorf were easily convinced to act as scouts for the greater Sylvanian war host that was assembling. Little did they know that some of them would be serving Vlad through life and into undeath eventually as more additions to his growing undead army.

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The Coat of Arms of Sumpfdorf

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Unit Leader

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Unit Leader (for 5 man deployment when used as detachments)

Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Chev on July 31, 2011, 11:14:09 PM
Really like how you've combined the fluff and the Plog together, Makes me read it instead of just scrolling for the pictures like i usually do.

Gotta admit though, The fact you've painted the eyes creeps me out.  :Ohmy:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on August 01, 2011, 06:54:02 AM
Creepy eyed is a common thing when your accidently impregnating your sister, mother, second cousin... aunt... etc. Its a birth trait common amongst the Sylvanians... it keeps the blood strong in the family I say!

Appreciate the comments though. :) I am currently working on Lamenters, Ig, and Dark Elves as well.... so many stupid armies collected over the years. I am still debating on whether to look at selling off stuff and focusing on one or two armies but we shall see. The one thing I have noted is how old some of our sculpts now are. The Free Company has not been updated since Mordheim... and I cannot recall how old now our Horsies are... but I think they must be getting on 20 odd years. Which is a worry!

Lexi.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Delthos on August 01, 2011, 11:55:19 AM
What are you talking about? Our older models are some of the best work GW did on the Empire line. The free company is one of the best kits. I know it will eventually go away but I don't want it to go away any time soon. All my favorite models are old models. The horses on the other hand do need an update. I'm really hoping that we get new knights when the Empire gets updated for 8th edition.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on August 13, 2011, 02:13:42 PM
Sacellum of the Hand.

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As Vlad's power spread across the County of Sylvania, he encountered various groups of that were resistant to his new order. One of the most rigid opponents was that of the Imperial Churches and Cults, namely Sigmar and Morr. Both stood in opposition to the Vampire at every turn. However open warfare against the Churches and Cult of Morr was unthinkable during the first century of Vlad's reign. It would not have done to have Witch Hunters and Priests descend in a crusade against the Elector Count.

Therefore Vlad sponsored his own twisted version of the Sigmarite and Morr Cults. The most prominent of such orders that took root in Sylvania was known as the Sacellum of the Hand. Based at the Red Abbey, Vlad encouraged those more liberal priests and "touched" individuals to come together who were on the edge of their own sanity and develop their own cult. Before long the Red Abbey had produced it's own twisted version of the faith of the Realm which was wholly loyal to Vlad, based off the belief that death was an illusion and that only through suffering or destroying this illusion would the truth of life, death and the twilight between be revealed to the true believers.

Vlad often assigned a Thrall Vampire to the Abbey to ensure the loyalty of the Cult and it was seen as a mark of great favor by the Van Carsteins to be given rulership over the Abbey. In 2010 IC and in the decades before the Vampire Wars whenever Vlad went to war, the Red Abbey would produce it's most vile and depraved fanatics to serve on the field. Ass time went on and the Abbey became more depraved and began to openly worship the Undead and Vampires, Ghouls began to appear in the ranks of the Sacellum of the Hand. These Ghouls were former members who had degenerated into the practice of eating human flesh and were regarded as having been especially touched by the Van Carstein and Vampire Cult.

The Cult being so fanatical was wiped out in the early years of the Vampire Wars, the entire Church marching and fighting at the Battle of the Stir in 2010 which signaled the commencement of the war. Over 200 crazy screaming cultists ran forward into the ranks of the Ostermark handgunners allowing the following undead to sweep forward without fear of being destroyed. Of course Vlad had no intention of wasting such raw material and even in 2041 some Zombies wearing the remains of Red Robes could be seen within the ranks of mindless undead, not to mention the Ghouls and Ghasts that served Vlad and his family.

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Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on August 28, 2011, 10:32:04 AM
Small update time.

I have been working with some basing for my Battery of guns.

So far not too bad.

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As it is also the Army of Sylvania... I have done my version of what I see as Isabella. (Not using the figure... but the idea of her in the 200 year prior to the VC wars. For my own games I use her as Captain or Death Mage.)

The images could have been sharper.

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Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 28, 2011, 11:41:16 AM
They look excellent!
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: valdreth on May 08, 2012, 12:47:45 AM
I know im commiting thread-no-mancy. I love the colour scheme and the models look great.

Only thing i thought id point out to you mate is that as far as i remember reading through vampire/empire history (I play both) the vampire wars pre-date the use of black powder in the empire so in terms of theme do the "guns" really fit especially the helstorm being such a new weapon. Only thought id mention it because you said how much you loved fluff

great work though :)

GUS
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Darknight on May 08, 2012, 01:10:33 AM
I'm glad this thread was resurrected - this is a superb army!
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alleton on May 08, 2012, 05:20:25 AM

Only thing i thought id point out to you mate is that as far as i remember reading through vampire/empire history (I play both) the vampire wars pre-date the use of black powder in the empire so in terms of theme do the "guns" really fit especially the helstorm being such a new weapon. Only thought id mention it because you said how much you loved fluff


GUS

I've not read the vampire books so I might be missing something here, but was Sylvania ever an official part of the Empire? They seem to have Imperial dress, customs and the like, but it was never a province was it? and it was seen as a cursed land even before Sigmar right?

That was a bit of fluff I was curious about. I too like fluff, but GW hasn't really made it easy to be consistent :P (It's kinda like writing for Star Trek)
Excellent job on the army in any case Alexious. I like it very much!
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: valdreth on May 08, 2012, 06:17:57 AM
The consistancy is defently lacking, there is mention of it both as being a former province and it never being a province in the 7th ed book. i remember some years ago in "old'e weirde's incabulum" in WD a special done on sylvania, the von draks and vlad, conrad and manfred it was mentioned there that the vampire wars pre-date black powder use however it did mention i believe that sylvania was a province.

We almost need an FAQ on the subject lol  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on September 05, 2012, 05:07:35 PM
And the Army rises literally from the dead...

Have been so busy with a home renovation have had little time to paint or play or even work on the Army... but some updates.

The Headsmen of Hunger Wood

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As Vlad spread his gift through the decaying Sylvannian ruling elite he came across a young heiress of the Brause family. Elfi Brause was one of the few Sylvannian nobles to have spent her time in academic pursuits and she had a natural green thumb. As the only daughter and heiress of a sizeable estate that bordered Hunger Wood it was not long before the young woman was presented to Vlad and within a season at Castle Drakenhoff had become one of the new "ruling class". Her passion for Botany and the study of plants continued however after her move to undeath and she began to experiment on plants, in particular the black blood red roses of Hunger Wood that thrived within her family Estate. As time went on she learnt that nourishing the plants with fresh blood and bone caused them to bloom spectacularly over the early Autumn months outside of season.

To ensure a ready supply of Blood and Bone for her growing Conservatory, Elfi charmed a group of Outlaws that had been camping at the edge of Wood and moved them into her estate sometime before the start of the Vampire Wars. Led by the notorious outlaw Udo Wilda, they became infamous as the Headsmen of Hunger Wood. Udo was infamous for appearing brandishing a Halberd on the road, completely hooded in a dark coat before he would chase down his prey, steering them toward the Wood and the rest of his men. When the unfortunate was caught, they would be strung up in a tree upside down with a barrel placed underneath and then decapitated so the blood would be caught for his mistress, before they moved on to the next Victims. The heads of the unfortunate were always left in the middle of the Road to Essen to scare and terrify travellers.

Udo would eventually meet his demise early in the Vampire Wars. Elfi and the Headsmen were used as scouts for the Undead Army spending weeks away from the main Grand Army of Sylvannia attacking and terrifying villages and destroying morale of the populations that Vlad was preparing to strike against. Udo along with the Headsmen had pitched camp with a view of a road in Northern Stirland when a unit of Knights Panther came past. Thinking he would capture their noble blood for his mistress and score his men a rich taking, he ambushed the Knights. However arrows proved of little strength against the plate armour of the knights and as Udo stood in the road, halberd held high he was impaled by a lance. Elfi would find the bodies of her men later that evening after sunset. Elfi's hatred of the Knights Panther became legendary seeking them out at every opportunity to seek revenge for the death of her Headsmen. At the Battle of Vierstein she ripped seven knights apart before being bought low by a silvered axe, wielded by a Champion of the Knights Panther. The Knights after the war took an oath that Elfi and her kin would never rise again or be allowed to rule in Sylvannia and swore a hundred year vigil over the remains of the Brause Hermitage inside Hunger Wood.

 To this day the Knights Panther still hold occasional vigil over the ruins of the Brause Hermitage and young squires are often sent as punishment to cut back and pull out the thriving Black Blood Roses that continue to bloom over the Estates fallen stone buildings. As the years have passed however and more pressing matters have driven the Knights to further afield, the Brause Hermitage has been left to its decay and every Autumn the Black Blood Roses of Sylvannia continue to thrive and spread throughout the Wood, as if they were being nourished again.


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I use this unit as my second unit of Archers... along with sometimes a female Vampire who stands in for a Wizard Level 1 or 2.

Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Gorgash Redfang on September 05, 2012, 06:34:44 PM
Now that is NICE ........  Only one flaw  ::heretic:: your musician in your state troops has painted feet(NO shoes, just black feet!)

Great work :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: ColonialRaptor on September 06, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
The discussion about technology vs old style and the tech not taking over the world once black powder was introduced discussion I believe has to do with the existence of gods and magic and chaos in the WHFB world. Personally to me, it's as simple as that. Black powder isn't as affective because there are magical ways to deflect the shot, therefore in the end you have to end up getting close up to an enemy to take him down more often than not.

More likely and in most cases rather than black powder and artillery (although it's a close second) being the most powerful weapon in the world, magic in this case becomes the most powerful weapon.

There are also a lot of things that negate the power of ranged weapons that weren't possible in our real life, like flying beasts and mounts for the enemy to over fly and out flank the enemy and take out artillery before it could even do any damage. Then there are dragons, griffons, wyverns, vampires, Undead, MAGIC is the key :)

That's the way I always saw it anyway.

I freaking love this blog.
Title: Re: The Sun has already set... (A Sylvanian Army Blog)
Post by: Alexious on September 06, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
Thank you for the comments guys. Well aware of the Musician.. but I hate hate... bare feet. So i tried it in a painted fashion... from table top... you cannot tell.

Here is my finished Magic Well... other terrain that I use sometimes. Got it in a dental plaster cast and did it just with layers of dry brush, some water affect and a good base coat of grey primer.

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A Handgunner from the another regiment stands close...