Author Topic: The luck stone (Read 16985 times)

David22 · « **on:** October 10, 2008, 04:47:29 PM »

Ive a question i didnt find with a search.... the luck stone.

Is it restricted to only 1 per army or is it like dispel scrolls and power stones that you can have more then one and it counts as 1 choice.

wissenlander · « **Reply #1 on:** October 10, 2008, 04:54:03 PM »

To my knowledge, the Luck Stone is limited to 1 per army.

Spiney · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:33:47 PM »

It is, the only generic item that can be carried in multiples explicitly stated in the BRB are scrolls. Power stones are the only noted exception to this.

Besides, are you telling me that you think 25pts for the ability to reroll a single miscast is a good deal enough to take more than one? I guess maybe on a wizard Lord it might be worth it

Acadian · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2008, 06:50:39 PM »

For me, i think it is surely overpriced.
like a lot of magic items in Empire.
Only few are good to use.
But thats only my opinion.

sniperjolly · « **Reply #4 on:** October 11, 2008, 02:48:22 AM »

hey, does The Seal of Destruction count as a scroll? not that I'd take two on a wiz lord or anything... just curious...

Rune · « **Reply #5 on:** October 11, 2008, 07:23:36 AM »

Quote from: sniperjolly on October 11, 2008, 02:48:22 AM

hey, does The Seal of Destruction count as a scroll? not that I'd take two on a wiz lord or anything... just curious...

Nope. Same with the Luckstone. Even though they are variations of the more basic and generic variants, they are more unique in their complexity. And, ruleswise they are not classified as Dispel Scrolls or Power Stones.

I wouldn't see a problem with multiple luckstones on a wizard lord, though. Hardly overpower, honestly.

Spiney · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2008, 07:23:56 AM »

No, its a seal, not a scroll. As its rules say it just has the same effect as a dispel scroll

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2008, 08:37:13 AM »

Not sure you would want multiple luckstones in an average army. Or seals of destruction for that matter.

Only items that I am aware you can take multiples of are the dispel scroll and powerstone. Other armies, like Skaven have a few other scrolls and warpstone tokens they can take in multiple, but we do not.

cisse · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2008, 11:04:22 AM »

The luckstone... Sounds good in theory.

Last night I used it on my Wiz Lord against Soth. When I rolled a miscast with two 1's on 4 dice, I was happy to anounce "I have the luckstone!

Only to roll 3 dice on the reroll, off course.

warhammerlord_soth · « **Reply #9 on:** October 11, 2008, 02:27:20 PM »

He means "3 ones on the reroll..."

queek · « **Reply #10 on:** October 11, 2008, 03:49:05 PM »

Quote from: Acadian on October 10, 2008, 06:50:39 PM

For me, i think it is surely overpriced.

25 points is the going rate for a re-roll. The Skaven have an identical item for the same price. I don't leave the warrens without it, and I always put it on a Wizard Lord if I'm bringing one for Empire. Miscasts are nasty, and avoiding one with a reroll is very wise.

cisse · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2008, 01:29:33 AM »

Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on October 11, 2008, 02:27:20 PM

He means "3 ones on the reroll..."

Yes, I meant that. I was tired, my apologies.

And also yes, it's worth it I think (on a wizard lord at least). If only you can avoid the horrible dice rolling that I had that time.

blurred · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2008, 06:49:37 PM »

If I take a wizard lord, I always take the luckstone with him. Miscasts can be deadly.

cisse · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2008, 09:35:25 PM »

They are. My Wiz Lord suffered no ill results, but the magic phase was over and next turn he was charged by the pegasus captain he was about to take out...

warhammerlord_soth · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2008, 05:41:28 AM »

Upon which he decided to leg it...

cisse · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2008, 12:16:22 PM »

Yes, of course.

In any case, I said I doubted what to take after I noticed that the Wiz Lord had two arcane items and I dropped the Grey Wand, didn't I? And I went for two power stones... I knew I should've taken the VHS instead!

Would have been a nice surprise for that captain of yours on his flying pony.

warhammerlord_soth · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:03:29 PM »

Not that effective really. VHS Empire vs Empire ? No über stats to acquire...

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:34:52 PM »

Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on October 13, 2008, 01:03:29 PM

Not that effective really. VHS Empire vs Empire ? No über stats to acquire...

What? A captain doesn't have better stats than a wizard lord?

I think a wizard lord should always have the speculum. And a holy relic and luckstone.

warhammerlord_soth · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2008, 01:59:40 PM »

Better, but not über. And in this case, the wizard would have attacked 3 times on a 3+ to hit, 3+ to wound against a 2(3?)+ armour save, and get 3 4+ to hit, 4+ to wound attacks back. Granted, the odds get better, but I feel a wizard is better served with a warhorse or a unit of bodyguards...

When facing "the unknown army", things are quite different...

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2008, 02:07:46 PM »

The wizard should be on a pegasus too. Wasn't he?

Also, he'd be directing his attacks against the enemy pegasus, not the guy on top with the armour save.

warhammerlord_soth · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2008, 02:44:58 PM »

The wizard Lord was on foot... not a good idea IMHO, but that was the situation...

Also, a wizard lord should not get into combat, therefore the pegasus indeed is a good choice...

cisse · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2008, 04:55:37 PM »

No, he wasn't mounted on a pegasus. Reason: I don't have the model to do so...

Anyway, he'd have been pretty safe in a unit of state troopers, but! Given the sparsity of terrain pieces on Soth's half of the table and in the middle of the table (ie, zero terrain bar a big hill for Soth

) and the fact that he'd brought 3 HLR's, I didn't dare to do so.

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2008, 06:13:59 PM »

If you take the Luck stone, you need someone else to hold your Rod of Power. While not a bad thing neccersarily, I tend to have a wizard loaded with scrolls as well, so I would need three mages if I had a luck stone.

Also in my experience, you only ever miscast if you do not purchase this item. Every game I have had a luck stone I have never needed to use it....

warhammerlord_soth · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2008, 05:30:11 AM »

Quote from: Crimsonsphinx on October 13, 2008, 06:13:59 PM

If you take the Luck stone, you need someone else to hold your Rod of Power.

And that's what you call lucky, right ?

Crimsonsphinx · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2008, 01:13:31 PM »

Well that depends. Usually I have a female mage holding my Rod of Power

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