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Galactic Conflict & Historical Games ... => Warhammer 40k Discussion => Topic started by: Merrick on May 18, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
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From Katie Drake of Astronomican.
Hi everyone. I realize that I'm new here and as such what I say will be taken with a grain of salt at best, but I figured I'd share anyway.
According to my source (which cannot be named due to his/her fear of getting in trouble for leaking goodies), the Blood Raven Space Marines will be getting a Codex all of their own for 40K "sometime before 6th edition". Said source insists that Games Workshop has been looking to further capitalize on the excellent sales on the Space Marine range and as such have been grooming the Blood Ravens for the spotlight via the Dawn of War series of computer games.
Apparently the Blood Ravens will get a whole bunch of goodies in order to distance them from the typical Codex Chapters and therefore justify a dedicated Codex - the large number of psykers in the Chapter being one of the main themes. After all, there's already the balanced Chapter (Ultramarines), shooty Chapter (well, sort of at least, in the form of the Dark Angels before their new Codex release and Imperial Fists), and a bunch of close combat focused Chapters (Blood Angels, Black Templars and Space Wolves, to name but a few), so a Chapter that stands out by relying on a large number of Librarians makes sense. Aside from Librarians, the Ravens will apparently make use of some "lost, ancient Imperial Technology" which, coupled with the unprecedented foresight of the Chapter's psykers, will allow many of the units in the army to "begin the game in advantageous positions or receive bonuses".
That's all I've heard so far, but my source informs me that we'll be hearing progressively more about the Blood Ravens, both in further Dawn of War games as well as from the Black Library to prepare the way for the Ravens to arrive in the limelight.
While this may seem fantastic and unlikely, this source is the same that hinted about the addition of the Tau a number of years ago, as well as a contributor to the Planetstrike rumors that we began hearing about over two years ago.
Hopefully this makes for an interesting discussion if nothing else.
Thanks for reading.
Source Thread: http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12699 (http://www.astronomican.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12699)
Christ, I hope not.
Anyway, I find this to be quite a suspect leak, no real info.
Never mind, I just hope to god it's not true.
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meh I dont see it happening. Sounds more like a fanboi that wants their own codex. The Blood Ravens are purley GW's poster boys for Dawn of War and probably other PC games.
They are basically Smurfs with red armor. I dont see any reason to give them a codex at all.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Kill the person with this idea! Blood Ravens suck. No. F******. Blood. Ravens. Book.
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This does sound goofy. No they do not suck, but they are also in no way different than any other generic SM army. Thats what they are supposed to be, generic SM.
Phil
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Actually, I think the idea is that they are Librarian heavy....which would suck.
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Every Space Marine chapter has something distinguishing in their fluff (if there is fluff for that chapter), that doesn't mean they all get special rules. You can represent BR perfectly well by taking appropriate equipment and bringing a librarian along. Done. They are just not different enough to warrant their own Codex.
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Yes but GW will make even more money from the people that came to tabletop from Dawn of War.
Damn capitalist western dogs!
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Actually, I think the idea is that they are Librarian heavy....which would suck.
SO instead of getting a standard codex army and just selecting a librarian as an HQ slot they instead get Librarians as sarges like the 1k sons?!
(http://static.grupthink.com/answer/f/f7fa01d08e28259b1698d9f85f91ed87)
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Actually, I think the idea is that they are Librarian heavy....which would suck.
SO instead of getting a standard codex army and just selecting a librarian as an HQ slot they instead get Librarians as sarges like the 1k sons?!
(http://static.grupthink.com/answer/f/f7fa01d08e28259b1698d9f85f91ed87)
I'm thinking more of how crap Librarians are, and it's ANOTHER BLOODY MARINE CODEX.
Your face tastes of fail. :-P
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Your face tastes of fail. tongue
How would've known?
IMO they should have made the SM codex diverse enough to play any chapter. I don't really think an individual codex even for chapters like space wolves and blood angels is justifiable - they're still just space marines. And blood ravens? What have they done to distinguish themselves other than playing the role as bait for kids who have played DOW- ...oh.
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Your face tastes of fail. tongue
How would've known?
IMO they should have made the SM codex diverse enough to play any chapter. I don't really think an individual codex even for chapters like space wolves and blood angels is justifiable - they're still just space marines. And blood ravens? What have they done to distinguish themselves other than playing the role as bait for kids who have played DOW- ...oh.
Space wolves dont follow the space marines rule book (in fluff!) which is why they have one. I agree to a point with the blood angels but the whole death company thing is pretty cool.
Blood ravens as a chapter tastes of fail! I like the current space marine librarian powers. they arnt that bad.
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IMO they should have made the SM codex diverse enough to play any chapter.
This could create silly combinations such as Librarians as sargeants, Scouts in Tactical Squads (as Neophytes), Death Company, and Ravenwing.......all in the same army.
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seriously another sm codex...not happening and that source is a pile of crap. *prepares to eat words when in 3 years said book comes out*
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This could create silly combinations such as Librarians as sargeants, Scouts in Tactical Squads (as Neophytes), Death Company, and Ravenwing.......all in the same army.
Not if they wrote the rules proper like. I could do it. Fuck, a one armed chimp with parkinsons could do it.
Blood ravens as a chapter tastes of fail!
How come, they're just another chapter with an above average colour scheme.
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This could create silly combinations such as Librarians as sargeants, Scouts in Tactical Squads (as Neophytes), Death Company, and Ravenwing.......all in the same army.
Not if they wrote the rules proper like. I could do it. Fuck, a one armed chimp with parkinsons could do it.
This is GW we're talking about.
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Blood ravens as a chapter tastes of fail!
How come, they're just another chapter with an above average colour scheme.
Haha nah I ment they would fail as a seperate codex chapter as they closley follow the standard smurf doctrines as is. Wolves however use a completly different doctrine (or lack there of) Blood angels, dark angels, and to an extent black templars are really close to standard smurf doctrines with a special unit here or there.
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This is GW we're talking about.
Maybe they should start looking for one armed chimps with parkinsons? Can chimps even get parkinsons?
And yeah, maybe the space wolves should have a codex. But dark angels? Come on.
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The old DA's did. When they still had the Unforgiven rule.
Now, with just Fearless? Not so much.
I wish they'd go back to the all plasma army. Always meant to do one of those.
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The old DA's did. When they still had the Unforgiven rule.
Now, with just Fearless? Not so much.
I wish they'd go back to the all plasma army. Always meant to do one of those.
You can't do that anymore? what the hell......!?
I loved my Dark Angels when I had a crapload of plasma cannons.
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I have pretty much discounted this rumour, as a nearly exactly the same thing is circulating, except with Blood Angels....
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Maybe they should start looking for one armed chimps with parkinsons? Can chimps even get parkinsons?
And yeah, maybe the space wolves should have a codex. But dark angels? Come on.
I knew there was a reason why I loved you, patsy02 :icon_biggrin:
In a purely platonic way, of course. I'm heterosexual. Have I mentioned today that I'm heterosexual? Because I totally am.
Anyway - new Space Marine Codex? Yes please. The more of it, the better. Selling Space Marines provides the bulk of revenue for GW, and I want GW to make loads of money. The more Space Marines they sell, the more of those silly space-rambos with their silly concept and their silly armour make their way to the shelfs of little Timmies all over the world to collect dust, the better will I sleep with the secure knowledged that WHFB will be continued next edition, and perhaps the edition after that.
So bring it on.
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The old DA's did. When they still had the Unforgiven rule.
Now, with just Fearless? Not so much.
I wish they'd go back to the all plasma army. Always meant to do one of those.
You can't do that anymore? what the hell......!?
I loved my Dark Angels when I had a crapload of plasma cannons.
You still can in the normal SM codex. I made up a list where every model/squad had a plasma weapon.
Just for fun. It had nothing (besides the dreds) that could touch serious armor.
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The old DA's did. When they still had the Unforgiven rule.
Now, with just Fearless? Not so much.
I wish they'd go back to the all plasma army. Always meant to do one of those.
You can't do that anymore? what the hell......!?
I loved my Dark Angels when I had a crapload of plasma cannons.
You still can in the normal SM codex. I made up a list where every model/squad had a plasma weapon.
Just for fun. It had nothing (besides the dreds) that could touch serious armor.
I haven't seen a space marine codex since early third edition.
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Get this one. It's really quite good, and tons of fluff too.
I just wish they hadn't changed storm shields... un-f***ing-believable those things are...
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I knew there was a reason why I loved you, patsy02 :icon_biggrin:
In a purely platonic way, of course. I'm heterosexual. Have I mentioned today that I'm heterosexual? Because I totally am.
I loves you too Gneisenau. I loves you all kinds of ways :mrgreen:
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Get this one. It's really quite good, and tons of fluff too.
I just wish they hadn't changed storm shields... un-f***ing-believable those things are...
I'm planning on it. I just bought quite a few space marines and I want to use them.
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everyone knows ultramarines are the top chapter due to games workshop. so noone else can have a codex bar them bahahahaha etc etc. :icon_razz:
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Space wolves dont follow the space marines rule book (in fluff!) which is why they have one. I agree to a point with the blood angels but the whole death company thing is pretty cool.
SW's follow a completely different organisation and doctrine compared to codex marines, and deserve a different codex (not that I'm biased or anything :-) ). Others, meh. Blood angels, okay. Dark Angles, even more meh... And don't even get me started on black templars.
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Okay, I'll bite. Get started with the Black Templar.
They are the coolest looking chapter in terms of color scheme. Their fluff is interesting and different.
Phil
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If I were to properly do space marines, it'd be Black Templar. Full agreement with PhillyT's post. :wink:
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i'd do space wolves, love their fluff, army list, and style.
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Mine be Salamanders........... That be all :-D
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Okay, I'll bite. Get started with the Black Templar.
They are the coolest looking chapter in terms of color scheme. Their fluff is interesting and different.
Phil
Didn't you do black templars army recently Philly? if so hows it progressed?
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I second Philly and the Welshie.
Black Templars are awesome, and I loved my old Templars force...
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BT's are my 4th favorite chapter.
After Grey Knights, Dark Angels, and Iron Hands (in that order).
3rd if you count "real" Marines.
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BT are my favorite second founding but Ill take Space wolves, ultramarine, and salamanders before them. :happy:
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Space Wolves all the way!