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Title: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on May 09, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
8) The Barren Hills


(http://nemesis.uk.games-workshop.com/background/images/barren_title.jpg)
     - Right-Middle of the Map
     - Used to be called the 'Green Hills' as they weren't always blasted
     - Legend tells that Morrslieb (the moon) spotted the once oasis and hated it (cause aparantly the moon is evil) and horked down on it. Whatever it horked was like radiation and covered the area affecting every living thing. Caused green mists which caused mutations etc. (obviously it was Warpstone)
     - A crusade was launched and everything was purged, but it must still be watched because of 'the things that come in the night.'
     Map-Refferenced Points - 1 Village (Egondorf), 1 Inn (The Bitter Moon), 1 Watchtower (The Tower of Vigilance), 1 Ruined Fort (Unknown), 1 Stone Circle (Marchen's Henge), 1 Orc Camp (Unknown).

UK Chain of command:
          Commander: Veldemere
               Sub-Commander: Tostig
               Sub-Commander: Clausewitz

(http://uk.games-workshop.com/empire/images/break1.jpg)

Orders for Week 3:
Egondorf troops it is time to start building roads to connect Egondorf to the Bitter Moon and the Tower of Vigilance, all troops fighting in these locations should make note that we are not just cutting roads through the woods but also clearing both sides of the road to a depth of half a bowshot. This is to reduce the ambushes on our troops, we would have clear shots at any opponent before they reach us. The citizens of Egondorf have already agreed to provide able bodies to cut the trees if we provide troops to defend them.

I am still unsure as to the validity of the GDAs plans round Tor Thana and noted with interest that despite so many races apparently fighting there it did not get a mention that I saw. In fact I was horrified when I read that the Druchii killed or caught an entire generation of the citizens of Egondorf! How did they manage this, they finished 13th in the region and got this fluff! I would suggest it was better to report that the Dark Elves got into Egondorf and got wiped out by a vastly superior Empire force. It is for this reason I say we forget Tor Thana and any invented magic items and concentrate on what we need to do.

Clausewitz if you can take your battalion and your new charge is to find any information on the Crown, as a sub-order send pigeons back to Egondorf with any information you find on enemy movement (I know you have only recently recieved your last bilet but at the moment I think it is a dead horse).
To this end if people can mention in their battle reports that they found the enemy based on information provided by Carl von Clausewitz, hopefully GW will note this and accept that we are not just sitting around defending ourselves we are active!

Any fights you have against Druchii make it clear we are recapturing our captured Empire citizens, if we all put this they will have to take note and we can go some way to righting this slight.

(http://uk.games-workshop.com/empire/images/break1.jpg)
>>>>>>>>>>>The Map (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5454/mapwp8.jpg)<<<<<<<<<<
Including:
Ontop of this there are also a few unnamed rivers, lots of forest, a few hills and plains.

(http://uk.games-workshop.com/empire/images/break1.jpg)

This'll be a hotly contested region, and in my opinion we ought to limit ourselves to a few places. It seems to me that our prioties should be capturing and holding the western half - The Tower of Vigilance (6), Egondorf (2) and The Bitter Moon (1). Take, fortify, defend.

The Orc's plan appears to be to send night goblins against the Bitter Moon, but spend most of their Orcish forces laying siege to Egondorf, if not actually bothering to capture it. Our plans should therefore revolve around defending these points rather than scrambling off to hunt for the crown, and once we have drawn the destructive force of the greenskins into a siege against our cannon, we can send re-enforcements from the Tower. The Dwarfs might help us with the Inn, but it's unlikely. the Orcs intend to go around destroying the forests and desecrating holy places like Marchen's, which should incur the wrath of the Wood Elves. It's also worth noting that the Orcs intend to take control of the river. Can any Stirlanders resist them? They also have re-enforcements from the Chaos Dwarfs, and mentioning them could help Warhammer's most beleaguered of sides!

The Dwarfs, and their Ogre allies, seem to be intent on founding a new Karak on the Giant's Tump. Since there isn't a consensus that we should be fighting the Dwarfs, whether or not to challenge them is the choice of individual generals.

The Skaven seem intent on launching a clandestine campaign helping the Empire. Their plan is to help Karl Franz reclaim the crown, and then to have it turn him insane. Whether or not you agree with this, all out warfare with the rat men might not be in our best interests. In particular they suggest mentioning;- Rumours of Skaven striking a deal to forge a false Crown, mysterious assassinations of empire religious leaders and witch-hunters on the move to hunt down reports of humans striking deals with skaven.

The High and Dark Elves are active. Things you might notice include;- disturbances in the Winds of Magic, bright lights, a rebellion and conflict between Druchii (Dark Elves) and Asur (High Elves), a dragon overhead, Elven ship sightings - "one ship, of the Stirland river patrol was attacked and sunk. No survivors, but one huntsman was in the nearby forest, and reported back to the army.", a fallen Hunter of Sigmar named "Wholfgang", and high Elves intent on taking Tor Thana.

(http://uk.games-workshop.com/empire/images/break1.jpg)

In conclusion then:
Hold the western side of the map, with the Tower of Vigilance, the Bitter Moon and Egondorf. Only when we have these secure should we think about pushing out from our base. Turtle it!
Title: Re: UK - The Barren Hills (8)
Post by: General Romanov on May 09, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
A sound plan that gives us some tactical flexability later on, I agree with the plan.
Title: Re: UK - The Barren Hills (8)
Post by: cisse on May 09, 2007, 10:36:54 PM
The asur are going to go for Tor Thana, so we might get some help here. Should I ask them what their plans are in the region?
Title: Re: UK - The Barren Hills (8)
Post by: General Romanov on May 09, 2007, 10:53:41 PM
"If you know both yourself and your enemy, you will come out of one hundred battles with one hundred victories."

Though the Asur are not our enemies, it would be...unwise...to not know the intentions of our allies. Ask away in my opinion.
Title: Re: UK - The Barren Hills (8)
Post by: Veldemere on May 10, 2007, 10:06:31 AM
I agree with holding a firm line in the West, to try and minimise the conflict there. The only way we can realistically hold the area is to divide our force to a degree (as Teclis ordered in the conflict against Chaos)the land can only provide for a certain size of standing army, we garrison less mobile heavier units basing in the West. I then suggest we send out 2 expeditionary forces. The larger principal force to the unnamed tower with a view to establishing an eastern garrison. This looks like it is on mountains so it should minimise beastman influence but it also looks like the ideal place for the Dwarves to set up garrison which must be prevented.
The smaller expeditionary force should look into the Ruins of Tor Thana, these seem very fluffy and are obviously fairly magical, if the High Elves want to investigate I have little problem with this from an archaeological point of view. But we should get there first to look for the crown.

To me they seem to be the first 3 things we should do IMHumbleO.
Title: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 11, 2007, 02:43:33 PM
Ok UK generals lets open up the debate if you have read Jeroks mission statement lets consider how we are to organise and prioritise our objectives. And most importantly lets spell organisation our way!


edit- Jerok would you be able to change the title of this thread to the one above as it makes the forum easier to read. Thanks.
Title: Re: UK - The Barren Hills (8)
Post by: clausewitz on May 11, 2007, 05:00:02 PM
Veldemere, your summary matches my idea of what we should be doing.

I could suggest a few more details.

Make the village of Egondorf the primary base of operations.

Expedition to Tor Thana
I suggest that we first make the Tower of Vigilance a base of operations.  As the ruins are "hard to find", it makes sense to have somewhere to base armies searching the area.
Title: Re: UK - The Barren Hills (8)
Post by: Tostig on May 11, 2007, 05:15:10 PM
Ok, so our mission statement is:
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1) Defend the Empire - Our group was raised Primarily to Defend the Empire
     a) We are to choose sites to take as a heavily fortified position in each Region. Everyone in the region posts this as being the HQ and it being constantly defended and fortified.
     b) Branching Out to Secondary Positions, we are clearing the forest from around these and the Roads.
2) Allies - THe Empire needs her friends, and so we will post as few battles as possible against Dwarfs and HE/WE. While we shall currently not have a formal alliance, we acknowledge the Empires need
     a) For posting purposes, including things like Allying with Dwarfs in Doubles battles etc. along with mentions of specific forces working together (friend's armies) would suit nicely.
3. Purge the Unclean - The Great Forest is a Haven to Evil, Burn It
     a) We have recieved orders to Purge any area which is deemed unclean by two or more Priests of an sect. As such doing scenarios where you are attacking work fine, including rules for torching stuff is better.
My emphasis.

What comes apparent from this is that we should start off with an aggressive defence, most notably by fortifying areas. On the other hand you indicate that we ought to spread out our forces and investigate the ruins. However I would say that since this region will be heavily fought over a solid defence is more important, at least in the opening week or so, after which (if we have some breathing space) we’ll be able to justify an expansion eastwards to the unnamed Tower more easily in fluff terms.

Secondly, I think you over-estimate both the number of troops we’ll have at our disposal, as well as our need to keep them resupplied in game terms. We’re ought to be more worried about Wood Elf ambushes and Orc assaults than food. With the exception of the Inn (which I can see developing into an Eastern Front style block hour very readily), Egondorf and the Tower of Vigilance ought to have smithies, wells, storehouses and the like. With a bit of foraging they should be able to support sizable forces. If we’re worried about supporting that many, we can build roads to import materials and supplies from the surrounding areas, and have well armed convoys of caravans. Diluting our forces at the start of a campaign seems like a bad idea to me.

I’m not necessarily against expansion, however I just feel that starting off with we ought to establish a solid presence to build from as the campaign progresses. Once we’re secure in the east we can start thinking about wandering off in search of Elven ruins or gigantic Tumps ;)


How about:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on May 11, 2007, 09:07:46 PM
Tostig, I wasn't implying too much haste in my suggestions (and while I can't be sure I don't think Veldemere was either).

As you have emphasised our goals are a) Fortify HQ and b) moving on secondary goals.

If you read my post in the mission statemate you'll see I'm all for maintaining concentration of force.  I think we were just clarifying what our goals are, rather than arguing for swift dispersal of our forces.

The point about the roads is a good addition.  I would definitely support adding that to our goals.

If we combine what we have so far...


Make the village of Egondorf the primary base of operations.

Situated to the west where our armies might arrive.
As the largest Empire settlement in the area it is incumbent upon us military commanders to provide protection to Imperial citizens.
Make use of local infrastructure.  The town has the capacity to billet troops and will have barns/store houses/etc that can be commandeered for supply dumps.

Branching out from there we fortify Egondorf and move to occupy the Bitter Moon and the tower.

Work to secure this area by building a road connecting Egondorf, our main base, to the Bitter Moon and the Tower.  Mount patrols and hunting parties to purge the woods near it of orcs, beastmen etc.

When the time is right forming one or more expiditions with the following goals.
Move to occupy and fortify the eastern tower.
And/Or
Move to investigate Tor Thana, by occupying the Tower of Vigilance as a southern base of operations.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Stormbrow II on May 11, 2007, 11:31:08 PM
Right kiddies, just to notify ye:

The Territory/Key Locations that British gamers will battle over is the Barren Hills which is broken down further into:-

1 The Ruins of Tor Thana
2 The Giants Tump
3 Egondorf
4 Marchen's Henge
5 The Bitter Moon

This has been taken off A.org.  I assume that it means that the ROTW is going to be battling outside of the crescent-shape that will be fought for by the Brits. That is probably going to throw a spanner in the works but at least you know early.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Jerok on May 11, 2007, 11:55:51 PM
Wow, many things about that last post....

1. Stormbrow, are you fighting FOR us in the campaign, or are you just a random person. If you're with us then go to the Recruitment thread.
2. Don't call people kiddies. It iritates me. Not your fault, but it makes everything we are doing seem like childs play.
3. UK doesn't mean just Britain/England, but the larger United Kingdom, ie. Scotland, Ireland etc.
4. What does ROTW stand for, if I may ask?
5. What 'crescent shape'?
6. If I knew what you were talking about it may put a spanner in the works....
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 12, 2007, 11:37:20 AM
Jerok Stormbrow II is on almost every forum talking about the campaign, particularly active with the woodies. I too would be keen to know the answers to your questions.

Also Stormbrow all you were telling us with regards to the locations is only what is said in the booklet and indeed higher up in this thread. Please do not spam, there is enough infomation coming through to keep Jerok busy enough as is.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: WarbossKurgan on May 14, 2007, 12:44:11 PM
I'm guessing Stormbrow is just a "drive-by" poster. He doesn't seem to have even read the rest of the thread. :icon_confused:

ROTW = Rest of the World.  :icon_biggrin:
"Britain" and "The United Kingdom" means the same thing to most people.  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 14, 2007, 01:54:33 PM
There is a subtle difference between Britain and UK, but it is not important right now.

We are obviously now awaiting the campaign going live, but I would still like thoughts as to where we should focus our energies.

It seems fairly clear that we are basing in the West of the map and gradually moving east. Having looked more closely at the map I am inclined to agree with both Tostig and clausewitz that we base ourselves in Egondorf. THis is not a long way from the Altdorf-Talabheim road, that is an important supply line but we cannot be expected to patrol the whole length of it.

To that end we should fight a defensive battle but if we just sit there and get whittled away we will not ever find a point where we will be able to advance. I still feel there should be an expeditionary force (not necessarily a large force but big enough to go for the unnamed fort (again quite possibly in the thoughts of other races) as this also has a reasonable supply route to the Old Forest Road and already seems to have most of the woods surrounding it cleared.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on May 14, 2007, 03:47:52 PM
There's something a little odd discussing our Empire strategy with the Big Boss of the UK O&G mobs looking over our shoulders!  :icon_eek:

Veldemere, should we be making plans to counter an O&G move to send Night Goblins to take the Bitter Moon and steal the beer?

I concur with the defensive start to the campaign for us, but we don't want to get stuck there as you say.  I guess the timing might be dependant on the results of early battles.

On another note I wonder what people think of this concept that was brought up on Da Warpath.. http://z3.invisionfree.com/Orc__Goblin_Warpath/index.php?showtopic=17859 (http://z3.invisionfree.com/Orc__Goblin_Warpath/index.php?showtopic=17859)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: General Romanov on May 14, 2007, 06:08:10 PM
I agree with Veldemere, if we just remain on the defensive we become to unpredictable and only able to react to enemy manoeuvres. If we wish to hold the unnamed fort, Egondorf and if I may say the Tower of Vigilance all well need is infantry and artillery, freeing up the cavalry to scout around and secure our secondary objectives, or at least check out enemy strengths at the locations.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Jerok on May 15, 2007, 01:47:49 AM
clausewitz, believe me, that idea from da-warpath won't be taking effect. They won't ask if you played with their products or anything.

They will, however, want to know if you played at a labeled point on the map. Heck, you could play an open field game and say it was just outside of the town or somesuch.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 15, 2007, 10:38:39 AM
Although I agree they will not be checking if you used any of their products it would seem logical to try and steer in the direction of increasing the effectiveness of their new products.

Here is a quick roundup of who wants what in our region:

Bitter Moon Inn- Goblins
Egondorf- O&G combined, poss VC
Marchens Henge- Orcs, Beasts
Giants Tump-
Ruins of Tor Thana- High Elves, Chaos, Dark Elves
Tower of Vigilance-
Skaven Cave- Skaven
Unnamed tower- Dwarves


This is all I have been able to find out by forum trawling. For now I feel it important we stick to gameplan but I suspect there will be some curve balls before this is through.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on May 15, 2007, 11:30:07 AM
Quote from: Jerok on May 15, 2007, 01:47:49 AM
clausewitz, believe me, that idea from da-warpath won't be taking effect. They won't ask if you played with their products or anything.

They will, however, want to know if you played at a labeled point on the map. Heck, you could play an open field game and say it was just outside of the town or somesuch.

The part about using the new products is not what I was really wanting to highlight.

It was the concept that battles that are fought at key locations (the marked ones on the map for example) might have different weightings for the campaign.

So a battle over Tor Thana might be worth more than a battle at Egondorf (just an example).

Could there be any truth in that, or have the orcs been out in the midday sun for too long?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: WarbossKurgan on May 15, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: clausewitz on May 14, 2007, 03:47:52 PM
There's something a little odd discussing our Empire strategy with the Big Boss of the UK O&G mobs looking over our shoulders!  :icon_eek:
:icon_lol: Don't mind me - just pretend like I'm not here!  :icon_wink:

Quote from: clausewitz on May 15, 2007, 11:30:07 AM
or have the orcs been out in the midday sun for too long?
Always a possibility!

The location-weighting thing is Dakka Dakka's theory based on his observations during the Medusa V campaign (which used the same software and mechanics as TNC will). I think it's quite possible and would not be difficult for GW to organise technically.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on May 15, 2007, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: WarbossKurgan on May 15, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
:icon_lol: Don't mind me - just pretend like I'm not here!  :icon_wink:
If its all the same I think I might ask a couple of these gentlemen with pointy implements to keep an eye out...
Quote
Quote from: clausewitz on May 15, 2007, 11:30:07 AM
or have the orcs been out in the midday sun for too long?
Always a possibility!

The location-weighting thing is Dakka Dakka's theory based on his observations during the Medusa V campaign (which used the same software and mechanics as TNC will). I think it's quite possible and would not be difficult for GW to organise technically.
Not being a 40k player I wasn't part of the Medusa V campaign.  Is there anyone here that can shed some light on this?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on May 16, 2007, 09:58:39 PM
I've updated the first post with a better map. Apart from that not much has changed as far as I can tell, but then again I've been pubbing and fencing since midday.

So then, same old plan?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Douchie on May 17, 2007, 10:51:36 AM
I'm all for the orgional plan,

Hold onto our HQ - From what Veldemere has said Egondorf is going to be the focus of at least two other forces anyway. once we have secured the village we can look to take advantage of any developments in the surrounding areas.

For Stirland and the Empire!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on May 17, 2007, 11:58:26 AM
I concur with most of whats been said so far. The priorities as I see them are to

1) Establish a strong base of operations from which to conduct the campaign. that would have to be Egondorf. To send a force to the Bitter Moon to reinforce that and give us more room to maneuver.

2) Have a scout force initially at the tower of vigilance, which should be backed up with Artillery, Pistoliers, Outriders and Knights and ground troops when available. This point will be the eyes of the campaign as there is a Skaven Lair and the O/G and VC threat.

3) Construction of a road link between the defensive triangle of Egondorf, Bitter Moon and Tower of Vigilance, to allow support for any point to be given from the other 2.

Initially I believe that we have be defensive of this triangle, once we know what we are facing and how many, then we can plan to counter attack.

The empty Fort near Marchen's Henge would be an ideal place to send Huntsmen to keep an eye out in that region and possable a place to gether offensive reinforcements should we wish to encircle the enemy.

The Wood Elves and Dwarfs may be Allys in this area but I wouldn't count on it. I think that the O&G along with VC, Beastmen and Skaven will, with a little help from us be distracted fighting each other.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 17, 2007, 12:24:37 PM
Welcome Mark, good to have you on board.

Again brief update it seems most races are interested in the ruins. Let them fight over it I say, I am sure there will be some tasty trinkets there but we have more important things to do than chase baubles. Lets keep our eyes on the goals;

1) Defend the Empire
2) Find the Crown (which I suspect will not appear until late in the campaign, having a stong base of operations is essential for us to strike from if it is in our region)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on May 17, 2007, 01:08:37 PM
Glad to be here, I think with the generals we have we stand a good chance of defending the Empire successfully as long as we stay focused, disciplined and united.

The key is to have an organized defense that although static at first allows us flexability later in the campaign

Well done to both you, Clausewitz and Wizenlander for the work done so far - a fine start.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 18, 2007, 08:54:10 AM
So, lets see who we have committed here, if you are able to supply a brief bit of fluff on each of your armies, I will try to get mine up today also.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on May 18, 2007, 12:37:35 PM
Good idea heres mine. Its a A/L led force with a trained army. I have an hour to kill so this is what I have come up with. Sorry for any inaccuracies I'm not that up to date with the polotics of the Empire. Hope you enjoy.

After the defeat of Archeon a council of inquiry was created to learn from the mistakes of previous campaign, in particular the defeat and subsequent capture of Volkmare.

In one of the many opulent state rooms in Altdorf castle a meeting was taking place. Two of the Reiksgaurd stood at ease outside the large wooden door that led to the meeting place. Inside the room was adorned with many paintings of the heroic deeds of the soldiers of the empire, the largest and most impressive of which was a painting of Karl Franz on Deathclaw flying over the body's of dead Orcs and Goblins, and hanging next to it was the Imperial Banner. The center of the room was taken up by a large gold Leaf table, around which 2 men were deep in conversation. Kurt Helborg, and Volkmare, both had stony expressions on their faces, yet Volkmare's eyes were slightly glazed as if his mind was elsewhere.

The mens conversation stopped suddenly as the two could hear the Reiksguard outside snap to attention, and the door open. In walked the Emperor Karl Franz. Both men stood, as the Emperor walked past them and sat in the empty space at the table.

"Thank you both for comming so quickly, please sit"
As both men sat the Emperor and Kurt Helborg exchanged a worried look between them.

"The reason I have called this meeting is to decide how we will deal with any future Chaos attack on our lands" Volkmare sat impassionatly staring at the Emperor. The old mans gaze was like granite, heavy and unrelenting yet the Emperor continued unfaded, years of negotiating with Dwarfs, Elves and a myriad of other races had taught him how to bend the will of others to him.

"With this in mind I have decided that we cannot allow the Grand Theogonist to place himself in a situation where the Empire is put at risk. By leading a doomed army of flagellants to defeat Archeon you placed yourself in a position where you were able to be captured and ... tortured" The Emperors words trailed off. They all knew what had happend to Volkmare, the tortures and unspeakable pain he had gone through yet even the Emperor felt uneasy talking about it with Volkmare himself.

Volkmare, his expression unchanging took advantage of the Emperors hesitation and began to speak.

"It is my sworn duty to protect the Empire and its citizens from the abhorrence of Chaos, what happend to me is the price I gladly paid to defeat Archeon. Lest we not forget my defeat bought Reiksmarshal the time needed to assemble a force that could defeat Archeon" 

The Emperor was in no mood for one of the old mans sermons, time was short and he had other pressing things to attend to. "Nobody is doubting your courage or your duty, but we cannot allow you to be captured and used against us. The knowledge you have about the Empire and the influence you have over its people is too great to be allowed to be lost to me and to the Empire"

Volkmare opened his mouth to speak, his stony expression cracking as a flicker of fear ran across his eyes. But the Emperor was unrelenting, the Empire came first and he had to do what was best for the Empire, regardless of his feelings for the old man.

The Emperor raised his hand to stop Volkmare before he could utter a word. and he continued. "Therefore if you or any Arch Lector is to go into battle it must be with a proper military force, trained in combat, and with captains and commanders that have the skill and experience necessary to lead an army to victory".

"That is why Kurt is here, he will assign to you such troops and captains that not only have the zeal to face Chaos, but the skill in arms to defeat them. Your Warrior Priests will attend to their spiritual needs and lead them against the enemy, whoever and where ever they are. You will lead them....under the guidance of of Kurt and his generals."

The Emperor stopped, his words had hit the old man like hammer blows, and he needed to know that the old man had taken in what he had said. And more importantly to know  if Volkmare would agree to this or wether he would fight it.

Volkmare sat for a moment, then spoke "Am I not to be trusted with my own troops then, must I ask permission before I strike at Chaos?" His tone was considered, not filled with anger or sorrow.

The Emperor could tell that his next words could start or stop a rift between himself and the Sigmarites. Flashes of a civil war flooded his mind, but he repressed them.

"You are the head of the Church of Sigmar, and your duties and powers have not changed, you are responsable for the spiritual health of the nation. Kurt is commander of the Empires army's. He is not a priest and you are not a general. You will point to where Chaos is and Kurt and his troops will destroy it, with your help".

Sensing that Volkmare was weakening the Emperor continued.

"Your forces will be made up of trained troops, and flagellants will have a vital part to play. The troops will go where you tell them, and fight at your command, but how the battles will be fought  will be decided by experienced commanders. To this end I have ordered Kurt to set up the first regiments, they stand ready at Delberz. You will send one of your Arch Lectors to lead it with as many warrior priests as you see fit"

"Kurt give Volmare the details"

Kurt leaned over and produced a map from his bag which he spread over the table. Pointing to Delberz he started briefing Volkmare on the size and disposition of his forces in the area. The Emperor sat back and watched as Kurt and Volkmare discussed the details of the new force. Kurt giving a detailed briefing, respecting Volkmars questions and Volkmar in return studying the map intently and he genuinely seemed to be listening to Kurt's words. Maybe this will work the Emperor thought to himself.

"To recap your Archlector will be working with General Helstrom and the new force working with his 4th Army. He will assign General von Dante to liaise with your Arch lector. You will have a Regiment of Pike, Spear, 2 Swords, 2 Greatswords, Outriders, Pistoliers and a large unit of Knights as well as Heavy Artillery, Handgunners and a Steam Tank in your force plus there are several groups of Flagellants that can be used."

Volkmare rose from the table and bowed at the Emperor "I see the wisdom in this sire, I will dispatch my Priests immediately".

The Emperor rose and took Volkmars hand looking him in the eye. "We both have work to do, I need your council and your friendship".

"You have both sire" Volkmare replied.

With that Volkmare left the room. Kurt turned to the Emperor "That went better than you hoped" said half statement half question.

"Yes, we will see. At least we have a force in place now. If there are things happening in the Great Forrest and Barron Hills volkmare and the Arch Lectors will get to the bottom of it. I think we should send his force to Egondorf, there a reports of things happening there, thats as good a place as any for him to start. Maybe he will get something from these Dwarf rumors"

Sorry its not that brief, feel free to move it if you think
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 21, 2007, 10:46:30 AM
Well done Mark, great work.

Here is a little background on my army (as I am not a good a writer as you Mark I will limit mine to key information).

Graf Veldemere's family were already well off and well established in Nuln when he studied his martial skills, initially with a view to joining a knightly order. His lineage traced back to the families of the Elector counts of Solland an area he would always feel fealty to.

Becoming bored with his money and privilege he and a few other Solland blood lines formed their own knightly order the Knights Tigris, supported by the Emperor and Countess of Wissenland they were a campaign order used extensively around Lustria.

With the monies gained from this campaign Veldemere built on his forces with more of the displaced families of Solland offering manpower and financial support. Soon he has developed a strong standing army honing their skills by assisting any of the Elector counts to defend their borders from invasion, slowly making incursions into the former territories frustrated by having to break off their true goal to fund what is effectively a private army.

It was at this point he heard the call from General Helstrum. Upon understanding the magnitude of events he marched his army north to join with Helstrums 4th. As an additional reward for his assistance Veldemere was given control of the southernmost chapter of the Hunters of Sigmar. Buoyed by the addition of State paid troops his army arrived prepared to fight for the Emperor!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on May 21, 2007, 08:14:32 PM
I just have  quick question regarding the mustering of all forces to the 4th. Is there an established staging point we have for background purposes where the forces of the empire converge for our region before the campaign commences? I'm just writing my story leading up to the campaign and the thought just cropped up. Is there anywhere specific we go to or do we just enter the fray from the direction we marched?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 22, 2007, 08:26:25 AM
Our mustering has been called to Egondorf.

Fluff wise the 4th have been called together by Karl Franz under General Helstrom but no town or city could support such a large mustering. He divided the forces (which fits in with GW splitting us up by region) each under a regional commander. As discussed previously we have decided to defend the population of the town of Egondorf initially with some forces sent to the Bitter moon to stop the gobbos from taking it.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on May 22, 2007, 10:24:21 AM
Thanks for being so patient with me. I think a reread of some threads is in order!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 23, 2007, 10:09:46 AM
No problem Sircyn.

Right ok small update. Dwarves going for the Giants Tump, they seem to be focusing their forces on fluff for themselves (ie increasing the profile of their rangers, and establishing Alarics notebook for some new runes). They also have a good map of how they see the first week going, I have a copy of this and will post as soon as I can find out how to post images.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on May 23, 2007, 10:51:50 AM
Good work Veldemere, if we know how the dwarfs think its going to go in the first week we can use this to our mutual advantage.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 23, 2007, 01:58:21 PM
The dwarves are looking like setting up a grudge against the greenskins as a global for the campaign, which is promising. I am also in discussions with the Dwarf commander in the UK and am hopeful of some positive breakthroughs, he seems an agreeable chap.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Solkan on May 23, 2007, 05:26:29 PM
Hail Generals!

Richter Eisenburg sends word that he will be directing his Cult of Solkan forces to the  Barren Hills to support the efforts of the 4th in this region.

Whilst Richter and the Knights of Cleansing Flame (Solkans Templars) can be expected to understand tactics and follow the regional commanders orders, the insane gibbering horde of fanatics that has grown with each passing settlement between the Chapter House in Nuln and Egondorf will prove to be more difficult logistically. Our witch hunter militias are also not very populace friendly for settlement garrison duties. :eusa_wall:

I appreciate the strategy inherent in the defensive triangle with expeditionary forces plan, and would like to volunteer to undertake primarily offensive duties including wood burning and perhaps even road clearing (preferably through Beastman infested areas).  :icon_mad:

To this end I propose to head to Egondorf for muster and then proceed forthwith to head south east, clearing the forrest as we go (scorched earth for the road builders to follow) to the Tower of Vigilance. I will then base my forces here, entrenching our Imperial Gunnery colleagues (Mercenaries as far as the bribes and favors used to secure their services goes), The flagellants will be encamped outside the Tower and will be led by the Knights both to defend the Tower but also to conduct purges on the surrounding forrests.

Once we get the green light from Regional HQ we will then proceed to our designated target. :engel:

Incidentally, we will fight alongside our (slightly misguided/inferior) cleric brothers from Ulric and Sigmar but would prefer not to take orders from them, so perhaps a secular commander would be preferable at the Tower from our point of view. Additionally we prefer cold metal in the form of artillery than the chaos tainted prattle of college wizards. :icon_evil:

I will post my full Cult of Solkan fluff on the main fluff page on the Forum if you are interested in the Cults history, units etc. However suffice to say that we seek vengeance, and we will take it with a cleansing flame, something the reigning sigmarites have categorically failed to achieve in the past millennium.

Any positive ideas or comments on either my strategy or fluff are welcome, and if I can help anyone let me know and I will try and help(unless your a witch).


Richter Eisenberg Champion of the Law Gods is back.... with a Vengeance.



Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 24, 2007, 04:50:59 PM
Well all, tomorrow it starts!

We march to battle to defend our homelands, just a few notes before you register:

1) Please try to fit in about Helstroms 4th in your army name as this will help co-ordinate fluff.

2) Fight whomever you can but bear in mind we have a fluff agreement with the Bretts to mutual gain.

3) When posting battle reports please mention 'The Hunters of Sigmar' knightly order wherever possible as it will boost the profile.

4) Post even if you lose, the fluff can still carry us.

5) Try to include in your fluff that for the first week we are defending Egondorf and the Bitter Moon.


Negotiations are coming on a little with the Dwarves, they have agreed non agression with us in the UK. They have also opened the book of grudges against the greenskins and will be targeting them wherever possible, any assistance we can lend them fluff wise would be appreciated. Also on the fluff they are trying to boost the profile of their Ranger Foresters (basically standard Dwarven Rangers, not skirmishers, but able to move through forest terrain) these apparently used to exist in the rule book but are no longer there, if you can give them a mention. In return they will boost the profile of the Hunters.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to fire away. Good luck to all


FOR THE EMPIRE!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on May 24, 2007, 04:59:58 PM
*Psssst*

Hey, Veldemere.  I hate to break it to you, but registration isn't for another month. :-o
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 24, 2007, 05:04:18 PM
Bugger, curse my inability to read dates.

Keep that post in mind for a months time.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on May 24, 2007, 05:42:59 PM
Quote from: Veldemere on May 24, 2007, 04:50:59 PM

1) Please try to fit in about Helstroms 4th in your army name as this will help co-ordinate fluff.

2) Fight whomever you can but bear in mind we have a fluff agreement with the Bretts to mutual gain.

3) When posting battle reports please mention 'The Hunters of Sigmar' knightly order wherever possible as it will boost the profile.

4) Post even if you lose, the fluff can still carry us.

5) Try to include in your fluff that for the first week we are defending Egondorf and the Bitter Moon.


What about the engineer?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on May 24, 2007, 05:49:06 PM
Good point.  In all the confusion the Engineer has been forgotten.

My only question is, do we need him anymore?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 25, 2007, 08:18:13 AM
I have not heard anything about the engineer in so long I assumed it was too big a problem for us to fix. Is it still something we want to address?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on May 25, 2007, 10:21:25 AM
Well, if we all have an enigineer in fluff, it may encourage GW to hve another look at the enigineer and see if he could be improved.


Nah, that'd never work, this is GW.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 25, 2007, 10:37:49 AM
I am worried that if we have an engineer in our fluff GW may think we like them and think nothing needs doing to them!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on May 25, 2007, 10:39:54 AM
We've got a couple other things going on right now.  Jerok didn't mention anything about a head engineer in the mission statement.  Maybe talk to him about it, but in my opinion he can stay home this campaign.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: MiB on May 26, 2007, 12:02:00 AM
Everyone needs to add into their army fluff a wacky engineer that is firmly and resolutely told to stay the hell at home and not get in the way, in fact its best if he just kills himself instead of wasting everybody elses time
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on May 26, 2007, 04:52:28 PM
I think focusing on the new knightly order is probably best, rather than diluting our efforts. It is a big task just to get the one thing recognised as well as guiding the storyline of the entire nation this summer, plus Engineers should be fixed regardless of what we do in the campaign.

Quote from: MiB on May 26, 2007, 12:02:00 AM
Everyone needs to add into their army fluff a wacky engineer that is firmly and resolutely told to stay the hell at home and not get in the way, in fact its best if he just kills himself instead of wasting everybody elses time

It's not often I laugh bitterly, but I did for that.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on May 26, 2007, 09:04:55 PM
My Engineers drives my Steam Tanks. The Robo-Horse has been used for spare parts and the pigeon bombs were used for lunch.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: nooobie 69 on May 29, 2007, 12:28:15 AM
just anidea and all but wouldn't the dwarfs want the giants tump to claim the high ground as a look out for what our armies are doing? Also wouldn't it be a good idea if we got it to do the same?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 29, 2007, 08:35:59 AM
We did consider the tactical advantages of each of the areas and it was decided that we would not be sensible to spread ourselves too thin therefore our first priority was to protest our citizens.

If the Dwarves want to sit on hte top of a mountain (flat topped or not) I say let them, it is unlikely to adversely affect us. Being there only gives them the advantage over other people who want to be there, which is not us!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on May 29, 2007, 02:14:35 PM
All those shiny new watch towers we will be building on top of the ashes of slash and burnt forest will be far better eyes! I think the idea of recivilising the areas immediately surrounding our beleaguered towns and roads is a very evocative one. The Dwarfs would essentially be watching our armies reclaiming our land, something everybody knows we will be doing. Unless by a long shot they find the crown up there I don't see with the info we have now that the landmark is worth fighting for.

I think with the way the campaign will work our numbers need not be all too much of a handicap in some senses. If all of us here write coordinated background material in enough volume we would in effect hijack empire victories that aren't our own that don't add a narrative. Of course that does require Imperial victories.... Which we can improve disproportionately to our numbers if we show up to every event we can at GWs. Even if we lose we can influence the manner of our defeat by providing a steady stream of good written material.

Do we know if there will be an official campaign forum seeing as GW have rid themselves of their community boards?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on May 29, 2007, 03:26:27 PM
Having, for the second time ever, looked at the map, surely as we're planning on making a triangle of roads between The Bitter Moon, Egondorf and the Tower of Vigilance, why not extend the roads from the Bitter Moon and Egondorf to the Altdorf-Talabhein Road, allowing more reinforcements (or whatever) to surge in, possibly explaining why we're no longer as defensive later on in the campaign.

Apart from later on removing the Skaven from their lair, fortifying the Giant's Tump and the un-named tower, and connecting them together and to the Old Forest Road (possibly) I see nothing else of strategic value here.

Although, adding a defensive force to the henge may make the local Wood Elves more friendly (less antagonistic) towards us.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on May 29, 2007, 06:02:51 PM
Would the WE mind us deforesting a chunk of the region? If they would take exception to it I don't think there is much we could do to appease them in recompense.  :icon_biggrin:

The tower of vigilance looks like an ideal candidate for a fresh road travelling left to join the kemperbad-talabheim road. I did think Egondorf was connected to the Altdorf road but now I think it is a tributary of the Talabec. I would agree that at least one of the two ought to get a link way onto the main road.

After the three places are joined to each other and the major roads through the area, we could then choose  where we want to go.  Either search for the Elven ruins and clear out the Skaven, or try and forge a road across the barren hills to the fort or just continue recivilising the primary triangle until the crown pops up and we have to reassess. I would favour the latter rather than marching off to scuffle around the henge or throw ourselves at the Skaven. I think the major determining factor of our second half of the plan is the crown, where it is and who has it.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on May 29, 2007, 07:09:19 PM
Can we even be sure it'll pop up in our region?
Will it even pop up during the campaign? (As in GW decide on who has it, and what happens due to results)

I agree that it may be best to fortify the triangle, and then perhaps connecting the tower to the triangle and then to the Old Forest Road. Then we can try and reassess our position, if anything big happens, from this defensive position.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on May 29, 2007, 09:57:45 PM
We can't be sure it will show up or if it will be possible to fight over it. If it does I think odds are it will either be the UK or the US that gets it thanks to the greater number of players. Even if there is no chance of seeing the crown float across the map we will have to be prepared for unexpected contingency, having that fortified position would be the best place to face surprises.

I would like to think the crown would be turfed up, then the races squabble over control of it as the owning race attempts to flee with it. However nothing stops someone just using it and becoming all powerful, although just how powerful could be debatable considering the previous owners were an insane dwarf and a goblin, hardly a fountain of knowledge. Could just be a standard campaign where the winner at the end earns the prize, could just be the crown zaps whoever wears it and we end up with the status quo again. I don't want to verge too deeply into speculation on this because it is a bit futile really.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 30, 2007, 09:28:25 AM
The building of roads will become part of the plan. We already have 'broad brush' goals for the campaign but are not yet discussing these openly on the forum (we will have full discussion though when the time comes). My thought is to review goals on a weekly basis once we know how the campaign is panning out. Some races are starting by looking for the crown but I would be surprised if it turned up week 1.

As it stands the Skaven lair does not seem to offer any tactical advantage, the ruins look interesting but currently the HE, DE and chaos are all looking to fight over that one and it could be a bloody battle if we stepped in. The dwarfs and greenskins look to be trying to wipe each other out. Gobbos will no doubt be heading for the tavern, which we need to defend along with the other established Imperial settlements. Most worrying to me at the moment are the VCs trying to take the tower of vigilance, possibly a week 2/3 goal for us. But fluff wise it seems disadvantageous trying to defend a tower when they have no missile troops or war machines to garrison in it (apart from those bloody banshees!).

But keep up the thoughts, I am sure the strategic importance of all these locations will become clearer as the campaign rumbles on.

As for the GW stuff I know our local GW is holding mega battle events and I agree as many who can attend those should as it will help our cause.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on May 31, 2007, 01:11:36 PM
Seems to have gone a little quiet with the new generals, any of you new UK generals out there sign on and give us your army fluff, it's always nice for us to know who we are fighting alongside.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 04, 2007, 01:26:36 PM
Can I ask you guys to sumarize what your objective is in this region?  I want to post it so the other factions know so we can all work together on fluff (over at Warvault).
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 04, 2007, 03:26:32 PM
We are currently planning week 1 only, this will be to protect Egondorf and the Bitter Moon. In subsequent weeks this position will be strengthened by building a link to the main roadways and connecting and fortifying the Tower of Vigilance. This will then be our base of operations for further forays and investigation dependant on what the other races are doing in the region. The hunters of Sigmar have been given clear comission to clear the forests preparing the way for the new roads and to warn of potential dangers. Our archers are using the cover of Taals forests to provide us intelligence on other key areas of importance for us.

We believe the orcs and Dwarves of the region will be involved in a significant Waaargh/ Grudge around the Giants Tump and stone circle, the Goblins are heading for the Bitter Moon, Lizzies look like heading for the stone circle, Vampires split between the Tower of Vigilance and the Skaven Lair, All elves heading for the ruins with a small contingent of Druchii going for Egondorf, Chaos and Skaven are still unknown to me.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 04, 2007, 03:27:16 PM
Yup that's good.  Thanks Veldy. :wink:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on June 04, 2007, 03:29:54 PM
I had a brief read-through of the instructions for a NC Nottingham Tourney when I was in the GW store today, and it seemed to be based around Egondorf. I guess we'd better send even more re-enforcements there. I'll have a proper read through of the fluff and rules if I pop in tomorrow, two people were using it at the time.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 04, 2007, 03:36:49 PM
Damn it man did you not tell them who you were, you are a sub-commander, they should bow deeply and move away backwards!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 05, 2007, 09:51:07 AM
Does anyone else have any other goals they think we should achieve other than the above?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on June 05, 2007, 12:13:07 PM
I believe our aims should be in the first instance to defend the triangle of Bitter Moon, Egondorf and Tower of Vigilance, certainly during the first week, primarly against the Greenskins and DE. While the Dwarfs also engage with numerious opponents on the Giants Tump. From week 2 on we should look to expand our defensive triangle as opportunaties arrise.

My force will initaily be at the Tower of Vigilance to warn of comming attacks and to fight a delaying action. Then Sigmar willing take part in aggressive pre-emptive attacks on our enemys, possably including a large flanking effort in the final weeks of the campaign.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 05, 2007, 01:49:09 PM
Thanks Mark, who is your general so we can refer to him fortifying the Tower.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 05, 2007, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: Mark Perry on June 05, 2007, 12:13:07 PM
I believe our aims should be in the first instance to defend the triangle of Bitter Moon, Egondorf and Tower of Vigilance, certainly during the first week, primarly against the Greenskins and DE. While the Dwarfs also engage with numerious opponents on the Giants Tump. From week 2 on we should look to expand our defensive triangle as opportunaties arrise.
We might well find that future objectives are modified by events unfolding (i.e. further information becomes available through the NC website).  But our primary goals will remain as stated.
Quote
My force will initaily be at the Tower of Vigilance to warn of comming attacks and to fight a delaying action. Then Sigmar willing take part in aggressive pre-emptive attacks on our enemys, possably including a large flanking effort in the final weeks of the campaign.
I'm not sure that its possible to perform any kind of strategic flanking.  Since there are no real battlelines involved.  How do you define the "rear" areas of a beastmen army?  How do you threaten the supply lines of an Orc WAAAGH?

The only thing I can see in terms of strategic maneuvering that could be done would be more akin to taking table quarters in the final turns of a battle.  That we would make concerted pushes towards some of the other objectives (e.g. the ruined tower in the NE).

I also believe that we may need to alter our plans to take account of how the different factions are doing.  Since we can follow this on the results page and so can our opponents.

This is a good reason for our plans not to be too restrictive (our current plans are good in this respect).  And simple enough that even unimpressive battlefield results should suffice in achieving our goals.  For example, if we were to do badly we might register 25% wins, but as the goal is initially just to defend Egondorf/Bitter Moon then even that 25% should have a significant number of Empire armies winning "in the defence of Egondorf/Bitter Moon", rather than 25% wins for various objectives scattered around.  And obviously this is even more prevalent if we do well (which of course I hope we do!).
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 06, 2007, 08:25:47 AM
Sorry this is my first time trying to post an image so I hope it works.

This is a map from Bugmans where they have plotted out the first weeks moves for each of the races, just thought you may find it useful/ interesting.

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa170/Veldemere/Map_01.png)

I suspect most of the information is correct seeing as most races are part of the GDA.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on June 06, 2007, 10:53:59 AM
They've got quite a few armies which aren't doing anything. It could be useful, if only to see what the GDA are planning. Thinking about our plans atm, we only care about the left half, and possible attackers.

Therefore:
Elves (Tor Thana could be used as a starting point for an attack.
Orcs (Outright attacking us)
Skaven (The lair is a similar position to Tor Thana)

are the only real threats I see as being on this map.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 06, 2007, 11:11:55 AM
Quote from: Ostermarker on June 06, 2007, 10:53:59 AM
Therefore:
Elves (Tor Thana could be used as a starting point for an attack.
Orcs (Outright attacking us)
Skaven (The lair is a similar position to Tor Thana)

are the only real threats I see as being on this map.

I feel there are a few mistakes on this map, the druchii will attack egondorf I think and possibly some of the VC, they seem quite divided with some wanting the tower of Vigilance. There seems to be some thought that there will be a VC skaven war, which would be great and may reduce the chances the little rats will take the crown no matter who finds it! TKs are still a total mystery to me (if anyone can help).

I don't think it will be the orcs attacking us, information from Da Warpath implies that it will be goblin armies going for the tavern orcs going for the Dwarves.

Bear in mind this map only represents what those players on their respective forums are planning to do fluff wise, there will be many more players who will act independantly, please urge all those whom you play with regularly to go to their respective forums as it will clear the waters slightly (not make things easier, but at least clear the waters).

Also these plans do not mean you should only report fights against the opponents listed as attacking us, there will be groups of every race wandering and searching.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on June 06, 2007, 12:18:02 PM
@ Clausewitz if you had read my post on the bottom of page 1 of this thread I think you will see that we are in agreement. The fortunes of war will dictate a great deal who we can strike at most successfully.

Flexability is one of the keys to a successful defense (Wellingtons defense against Ney in Portugal for example had a brilliant defense that combined the best elements of a static and mobile defense) and I don't want us to become too bogged down in complicated plans at this early stage of the campaign.

I agree that we need to coordinate so that most battles are fought initially around our defensive position to maximize the victories we achieve. Once that is done I think we will need expeditionary forces to circle around enemy positions, so that we can strike at strategic locations that become apparent as the campaign unfolds. Or strike at other races forces who become entrenched in combat against each other (I can see that happening allot with the stunties).

Lets not forget that both the Brett Knights and ours work best in an attacking (or counter attacking) situation, as the campaign unfolds I would love to see both knights charging into the rear of a Vampire army or O&G horde.

But lets not get ahead of ourselves, lets concentrate on defending the triangle for the first week and see what opportunities arise from there.

OH yes my Generals name is Maximilion Scholl :biggriin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: WarbossKurgan on June 06, 2007, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: Veldemere on June 06, 2007, 11:11:55 AM
I don't think it will be the orcs attacking us, information from Da Warpath implies that it will be goblin armies going for the tavern orcs going for the Dwarves.
We aren't attacking the Dwarfs either!

The Orcs of Da Warpath Cruzade in the Barren Hills are heading for Marchen's Henge (to re-carve the stones into effegies) and maybe the Giants Tump afterwards. Da Warpath Looterz are not going to be focused on any one location or enemy as we intend to make a thorough search for the Shiney Boss Hat... crown.

 :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: HeraldOfTheFree on June 06, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
Hi, I'm completely new to these forums (this is my second post...), although I am a long-time fan of the website.
I have read through this thread so far and registered on the main recruitment thread, and since I am in the UK Im going to take part in the war effort here.
My commander is General Kurt Luther, an Ostlander baron who is a veteran of war with Orcs and Goblins. He holds a great deal of power and  land in Ostland, and the army he leads actually rallies to him, not the Elector. In fact, Luther's family has expressed an interest into taking electoral position for centuries, but their views hold them back. *This is info of the top of my head, I need to sit down and think the background out*
Right, points to make.
Ave Imperator fellow Generals!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: nosramuk on June 06, 2007, 10:02:12 PM
I love the way the dwarfs head straight for the mountain. Classic, could make up so many funny jokes about that. Anyways, this aside, i have one main point to say.

We should choose one site and stick to it for week one.
The reasoning behind this is:

1. Although there are a good few people in this topic posting thier support, there are going to be a lot more players elsewhere who arent a member of this site. Hmm, think ill be able to describe this more easily via maths. Say that the uk members of this site are representative of 5% (to get a better idea someone can count number of people who posted in this thread) of uk empire generals. If we spread our forces over 3 locations this goes down to 1.66% in each location, basically making the results insignificant. However, if all 5% are in one region, this will be noticed (i.e. have more significance) and will have better effect on the final outcome of that location.

2. It keeps things very very simple.

Simplicity is good as the plans have a greater chance of being successful as there is less to go wrong. Its kind of hard to mess up when you see on this site in big letters "week 1, post all battles at Egendorf"

To be honest, id much rather have a more complex plan as its more fun, however experiance has taught me that this only works if there is a large group of very active people who are all in good comunication with each other. And from the looks of things there are probably around 30 people in this forum topic, which isnt small, but its not huge either. If there were 100 people then things would be a bit different, but there is still would be the other two issues to deal with. These are player activity and communication.

 Now within this group of around 30 people im guessing the activity level is going to be about average. Most of us have lives of some sort or another outside of warhammer and so playing a 2000 pt game every day is probably a no no. Personally if i tried hard, i could play around one 500pt game a day (on average) and say one 2000 point game a week.

Finally theres comunication. Now communication via forums is always a slow process.At its best, realistically, im guessing everyone can log in once a day for 5 minutes. This means that if there is a change of plan, some time needs to be given before it can be carried out. (average log in times are probably once every 2/3 days.)


  Other things. Mark Perry, i really liked your fluff post, i like your writing style, it made a good read.

Fluff wise, I basically have two forces, my 500 point force led by Captain Luitdorf (first name George) (which will do most of the fighting) and my 2000 point force led by one of the officers of the reiskguard. (normally this is Old kurty, but not gonna use him in campaign as not very fluffy.) Might post up some fluff later.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: MiB on June 06, 2007, 11:01:34 PM
Quote from: Veldemere on June 06, 2007, 11:11:55 AM
TKs are still a total mystery to me (if anyone can help).

Unfortunately TK dont seem to be doing anything to organise themselves, at least not that I can tell from anywhere online
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 07, 2007, 09:12:47 AM
Nosramuk, you make some good points particularly with regards to the size of our footprint. Please bear in mind there are probably about twice as many people reading the forum as there are posting on it so that may increase our numbers slightly. The main reason we have been forging alliances is so we can get consistency of fluff from other races as well, by virtue of the fact most of us are active in writing on forums it is likely we will be the most active in writing fluff. We currently have the Bretonnians looking like allies and work is progressing with the High elves, if more races are saying the same thing it is more likely to get noticed.

This also ties into the point about Helstroms 4th, the reason for adding this to your army title is to make us stand out as a 'block vote', GW will notice if 20-30 armies in this region all have that in their army title and are more likely to pay attention to the fluff.

If you see the map above most races are signed up to this opening move via their forums this would probably be somewhere in the region of 25-50% of the active players in the campaign this will have an effect.

The opening move has been kept as simple as possible whilst still allowing flexibility for future moves. The main focus of our forces must be Egondorf (our primary goal in this campaign is to protect the Empire) with the Bitter Moon as a secondary. The Tower is tertiary to our plans but looks to be facing some resistance from the VC, but none the less essential to our plans even if we cannot take it we could still benefit if, by the end of week 1, there is no overall control.

Nos, if you can play 500 per day and 2k once per week that would be fantastic, I am judging this (and trying to do my maths) based on players playing 1-2 games per week, 6 reported games would be a great boon.

I suspect GW would not mind the Bitter Moon being a fortified inn for 2 reasons, on the fluffy side this place must be getting attacked all the time with its location so close to the forest and all those beasties, secondly and most importantly to have a fortified inn on the tabletop requires one to buy more of their terrain sets that have just gone on sale.

Turning the tower into a castle is less likely I think, that is a huge undertaking and requires a lot of manpower, something not in ready supply during a war, also the easiest time to storm a castle is when it is being built, we risk our hard work going to someone else. Possibly something we can do once we win this campaign.

Great to have both of you on board, Nosramuk and HeraldOfTheFree, keep up the good work, and please do keep questioning anything you think may not be right, it open up the discussion and flow of opinions.

Thanks for info on TK MiB, are you keeping an eye out on them?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: MiB on June 07, 2007, 10:09:46 AM
Quote from: Veldemere on June 07, 2007, 09:12:47 AM
Thanks for info on TK MiB, are you keeping an eye out on them?

Yep, I'm hoping to field them myself so I'm trying to encourage them to do something ;)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 07, 2007, 11:24:11 AM
As well as Empire or instead of, if it is as well I trust you will be a good double agent, if it is instead I hope you will lose honorably.

(no offense)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 07, 2007, 01:13:17 PM
Ok following on from Wissenlanders great work in the US lets figure out who is going for which location in turn 1. This is to ensure we are able to hold Egondorf and the Bitter Moon as well as have a presence around the Tower of Vigilance. I will start by assuming that everyone is in Egondorf, let me know if you wish that to be changed.

Egondorf

Veldemere- Graf Veldemere
Clauswitz
Jacob Marley - Guvnor
BingoBongoEmpire
Sharpe
Master Boris Hertwig - Ostermark
Markus von Kluge - Narses101
Captain Karl Vontra - phil1103
Alberich Von Ludenhoff
GrandMaster Leon von  Eberhardt – Morden
Commander Jakob Storscham – Barracuda101
General Wilhelm Henrich Romanov – General Romanov
Grand Master Sanjiven Singh Aujla – Helborg
Margrave Mattayus Luddensburg – Hendrid
General Martin Keats – Douchie
Baron Reinhardt von Schadelandoese - Sircyn
Richter Eisenburg – Solkan
Klaus Von Helling – No 17
bobby bob – nooobie 69
Captain Karl von Drak- Karl von Drak
Spiney
Nosramuk
Marshall Gerhardt

The Bitter Moon

Tostig- Rupert Ironside
HeraldOfTheFree

The Tower of Vigilance

Mark Perry
Hans Von Wynter – Patch


It is assumed that each of these forces will not just be garrisoned but also patrolloing the vicinity, so those of you who have mainly cavalry armies which are not given to defending don't let it bother you.

I will edit this whenever I get a response either on this thread or pref by PM so we don't clog it up.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 07, 2007, 07:26:55 PM
I don't know how inter region coordination works, probably won't really, but...

Our main objectives are in the south, the fort and the town of our region.  That's basically the opposite side of the river from where the Bitter Moon and Egondorf are.  Don't know if it work, but we could get some fluff coordination potentially on communication back and forth.  Just an idea.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on June 09, 2007, 03:58:01 PM
Thanks Nosramuk, I write part time, glad you liked the fluff.


Im getting that "All alone" feeling at the Tower of Vigilance, but ill carry the fight there unless im directed to fight elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: HeraldOfTheFree on June 09, 2007, 06:06:49 PM
You are at the Tower of Vigilance- be vigilant!  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on June 10, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
As I'm on my own you wouldn't believe how vigilant I'm being :wink:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Jerok on June 10, 2007, 09:13:59 PM
This is for Veldemere. Can I get a report on what this Region is planning, your own personal schemeings and thoughts, and anything you need done in/for this thread?

Thanks
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 12, 2007, 11:50:51 PM
Wissenlander (along with others on the Warvault) is trying to name the unnamed places on the NC map.

In the Barren Hills there are only two unnamed places.

A skaven lair, which we probably don't need to name.

And the ruined fort in the north east.

Would anyone care to suggest a name for this to help Wissenlander?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: WarbossKurgan on June 14, 2007, 01:21:12 PM
Quote from: clausewitz on June 12, 2007, 11:50:51 PM
In the Barren Hills there are only two unnamed places.

A skaven lair, which we probably don't need to name.

And the ruined fort in the north east.

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1659/unnamedfortiv3.jpg)

It doesn't look ruined to me! (....... yet  :icon_wink: )
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on June 14, 2007, 02:13:18 PM
True, although it doesn't exactly correspond to any of the given symbols. I think it resembles a motte (as in motte and bailey). A fort of watch-tower perhaps? I might have to model it  :biggriin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 14, 2007, 04:56:13 PM
Quote from: WarbossKurgan on June 14, 2007, 01:21:12 PM
It doesn't look ruined to me! (....... yet  :icon_wink: )

Damn, another misinformation ploy foiled!  :wink:

Honestly, its a mess, not worth bothering with.  Nothing for the orcs here.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 14, 2007, 05:59:51 PM
Since there have been suggestions so far I decided to do a little research to see if I could come up with a decent name myself.

So I went on to wikipedia and did a search for "German medieval fort castle".  The top result was something that surprised me and seemed to be something of an omen..

Schloss Sigmaringen

Here is the link..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Sigmaringen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Sigmaringen)

In English it would be Sigmaringen Castle.

What do you think?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 14, 2007, 06:01:48 PM
Sounds good to me, and very appropriate.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: nosramuk on June 16, 2007, 05:22:22 PM
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Nosramuk, you make some good points particularly with regards to the size of our footprint. Please bear in mind there are probably about twice as many people reading the forum as there are posting on it so that may increase our numbers slightly

Your very welcome. Yeh, wise words about more people reading than posting. I think it would be good to have a locked topic each weak saying where to attack, this way the people who arent members can join in with us.

In week1 ill probably fight most of my battles around Egondorf. But theres 1 skirmish i really want to play and thats the defend the inn one, should be good fun, and obviously the results will be posted up as a win/loss at the bittermoon inn.

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Great to have both of you on board, Nosramuk and HeraldOfTheFree, keep up the good work, and please do keep questioning anything you think may not be right, it open up the discussion and flow of opinions.

Thanks man, its great to be here  :biggriin: You and the other high ups have made this a good thread, and I think this campaign is gonna be alot of fun.

I wont be able to post much in the forum over the coming few weeks, probably around 1/2 times a week. But ill get all my battles registered. And will keep a tally here so people can see how Im doing.

Think im going to get some fluff on the go and try to link my battles together.Should be good.

So basically, I think the two main points for week one were "post results at Egondorf" and put "Helstroms 4th" in my army name.

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So I went on to wikipedia and did a search for "German medieval fort castle".  The top result was something that surprised me and seemed to be something of an omen..

Schloss Sigmaringen

THis stuff is awsome. Maybye its an omen of things to come...?

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Thanks Nosramuk, I write part time, glad you liked the fluff.
Your welcome Mr Perry, Ive tried writing and know how hard it is, some people have a knack for it, others dont. You seem to have that "knack" and i hope u stick with it  :-)


One last thing, is there any fluff behind the naming "Helstroms 4th"?

Thanks all.

Nosramuk
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on June 17, 2007, 07:28:33 PM
Got one and a half games lined up for the next couple of Sundays. The first probably vs Skaven, the second against O+G
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 19, 2007, 11:05:06 AM
Any UK generals wishing to help the Druchii with their fluff (or indeed set up a sworn enemy) check out the Fluff exchange thread, this may be of particular interest to Stirland generals!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 25, 2007, 07:38:13 AM
Registration starts today (although it doesn't seem to be up yet.

Sign up and remember to add Helstrom's 4th in your army name.

http://nemesis.games-workshop.com/ (http://nemesis.games-workshop.com/)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Brynjolf Irontooth on June 25, 2007, 07:58:29 AM
Quote from: Veldemere on June 25, 2007, 07:38:13 AM
Registration starts today (although it doesn't seem to be up yet.

Sign up and remember to add Helstrom's 4th in your army name.

http://nemesis.games-workshop.com/ (http://nemesis.games-workshop.com/)

It is indeed a shame we still can't registre while they state: resgistration on 25 june.  :icon_cry:

Friendly regards
BI
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 25, 2007, 01:23:27 PM
Still not able to register on the UK site, anyone having more luck?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 25, 2007, 01:48:25 PM
Nope, just kicks me back to the main page.  I read a couple places that said they moved it to the 27th.  Does anyone have a link for that?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 25, 2007, 02:03:18 PM
Still says 25th on UK site.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on June 25, 2007, 03:24:15 PM
She's UP!

I'm registered, but you guys might have a problem with that Helstrom's 4th thing, theres a character limit for general's name.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 25, 2007, 03:44:09 PM
Also, I there is a limit on your army name.  I think it's a 30 character limit.  I'm working on some ideas.  At the moment I've got Wissenland EF - Helstrom's 4th.  The EF stands for Expeditionary Force.  I'm willing to sacrifice my army name to get Helstrom's in there.  So if you can come up with maybe a nickname or something for your army, it should work out.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 25, 2007, 05:18:01 PM
Yes, the character limit is a little annoying.  Some improvisation will be required.

Anyway I have signed up.

Carl Von Clausewitz commanding Helstom's 4th Talabheim Corps.

I didn't want to use "corps", I preferred "irrgeulars" but corps is a nice small, military sounding name.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 25, 2007, 05:38:42 PM
Curses, the character limit is a pain, but please try to include the Helstroms 4th, had to reduce mine to Sollandiers of Helstroms 4th!

Now lets kick ass
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on June 25, 2007, 05:44:02 PM
I've registered (The White Company - H's 4th) :P

More information! (http://nemesis.uk.games-workshop.com/campaign/warroom/default.aspx)
Egondorf:
Egondorf sits closer to the Barren Hills than its inhabitants would wish, and as such it comes under frequent attack by twisted and malformed things from the hills. Fortunately for Egondorf, it is home to the Witchhunter Walter von Khan, a man in equal parts celebrated and feared throughout the region. Von Khan in a veteran of his calling, having served for decades in Altdorf, he has returned to his home village in the hour of its greatest need to defeat once and for all those who would prey upon it.

The Bitter Moon:
The Bitter Moon stands in the centre of a wide area of cleared forest, for all manner of blasphemous creatures are known to haunt the lands hereabouts. Yet, with each year the undergrowth seeks to reclaim the land, and it is only the efforts of the Bitter Moon's landlord (who hires labourers to fell the ever-encroaching woods) that darkness is kept back. The landlord knows that should he ever run out of funds to pay for the annual clearing, the Bitter Moon would be swallowed by the forests, and the creatures would get him. Some say he is a bit obsessive in this matter, but those who have seen the glowering eyes shining beneath the boughs know otherwise.

Abandoned Fort:
Peace as well as war can take their toll on fortifications, and many forts find themselves on old unused roads, or watching for a passed threat. These are abandoned and left for the trees.

The Tower of Viligance:
The Tower of Viligance has stood for many centuries, maintained painstakingly by its inhabitants and constant fortified from any possible assault. It is so well protected in fact that it was one of the structures to survive Morrslieb's spite when it rained down upon the region. It's occupants are an obscure order of Sigmarite monks who keep watch over the locale. Though they maintain little contact with any outsiders, it is said that the monks await the return of Sigmar, when they will go out into the land and aid him in the expelling of the servants of evil once and for all.

Once a Skaven Lair, now an Orc Encampment:
Orcs are not prolific in the forest, but some tribes make their home here. These bands of brutes wonder from place to place, camping and warring before moving on.

Marchen's Henge:
Marchen's Henge was a large circle of standing stones, though it has long since fallen into ruin, many stones lying toppled or smashed. Though legend states the people of Sigmar erected the henge, it appears to be an object of particular loathing from various other quarters. Each year, the stones are desecrated more with crude, blasphemous runes daubed across their every surface by unknown followers of Ruinous Powers. The local militias have on many occasions sought to catch the perpetrators in the act of desecration so that they confront the followers and once and for all end their evil deeds.

The Giant's Tump:
Before tragedy befell the Green Hills, this feature now known as the "Giant's Tump" was a heavily wooded, flat topped hill. Once stripped of the verdant woodland by Morrsleib's spite, it was revealed that the hill had once stood tall and proud, but had, in some fashion, lost its peak, the remains of which were scattered all about. Academics from Altdorf and Nuln have theorised that the hill must have been the site of a battle between two huge adversaries, and so the legend has grown in telling. It is now said that the peak of the hill was shorn off in a single swipe of a giant's club, and that at any time, the titanic adversaries might return to conclude their duel, and, in all likelihood, flatten the entire range in the process.

The Ruins of Tor Thana
Though never ratified by the Imperial College of Cartographers, a great number of maps of the Great Forest make reference to the site of a ruined Elven city in the western spur of the Barren Hills. Ever since the Green Hills became the Barrel hills, however, very few have visited the site, for the foul beasts that plague the entire range make travel there hazardous in the extreme. A great number of myths and legends surround the ruins, for the valley they occupy was once the green heart of the forested hills. Once such legend suggest that life still lingers within the ruins, and the fey powers of the Elven folk might one day repair the hills of Morrsleib's spite.

Apologies to Claustwitz, after he typed half of this out as well.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on June 25, 2007, 06:46:03 PM
All signed up. The minute character count really put a crimp in my style. Ended up settling with  Helstrom's 4th - Ostermark IX. I went for what I thought would look like a roster designation of the forces my Baron commands, rather than the more flowery examples given an unlimited space to write it into.

I'm signed up for my local GWs campaign and I might even stomach showing up for the mega battles. Going to get as many games in as I can.

Seeing there is a Witch Hunter at Egondorf really ties in with my  characters past as a former Templar of Sigmars henchman. I may have to play on that at some point.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on June 25, 2007, 07:07:39 PM
The first post in the thread has been updated with the information in the above post, as well as a new, shinier map and Dwarf and Elven fluff sharing ideas..

What I think we ought to decide now is what kinds of fluff we would ask other nations to put into their battle reports as part of a fluff exchange. Personally, I would propose the following to begin with:

I was also thinking about something a bit more unique and exciting. The fluff premise is that included in the re-enforcements was an engineer from Nuln with a somewhat unique reputation - von Breendonk the Unsound. Despite managing to blow himself up within a week (having confused homing and messenger pigeons in his artillery wagon), he left behind one of his latest inventions - a flame-thrower. It could prove to be useful in the heavily wooded terrain, especially around the Bitter Moon, and could also see use purging any caves we need to deal with. Or Dwarf Karaks for that matter...
(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7894/thrower2jw0.jpg)

I know it might be a little steampunk for many, but I can see that it would appeal to GW fluff writers and the like. Besides, the engineer misrolls on his first turn! If you want to include it in your army you could always use the Skaven Warpfire rules, and if you're incredibly rich you could always use a Forgeworld DKoK flamer team with a head swap - that's what I "based" the picture off.

Incidentally, add people on MSN! Quite a few of us have it in our profiles, or in the special thread for such things, and IM is an easy, informal place for discussing ideas and so on. Go on...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: HeraldOfTheFree on June 25, 2007, 08:33:18 PM
Right, I have signed up.
Now all I need is to paint my army.
Next week is our prologue campaign to the NC at my local Games Workshop- 3 teams, Orcs, Dwarfs, and Empire. Two boxes of Mighty Empires!  :happy:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on June 25, 2007, 09:44:48 PM
I've signed up, and urging everyone at my club to shake off their apathy and sign up as well.

The Altdorf 2nd Div (Helstrom 4th) reporting for duty!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 25, 2007, 10:15:06 PM
Quote from: Tostig on June 25, 2007, 05:44:02 PM
Apologies to Claustwitz, after he typed half of this out as well.

No apologies necessary Tostig, I was hoping someone else would finish the typing.  :-D

Herald, 2 days to paint that army, better get cracking.  :wink:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 26, 2007, 12:16:26 AM
Veldemere, given the apparently strong defences at the Tower of Vigilance should we look for some volunteers to bolster Mark Perry's forces in its defence?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on June 26, 2007, 06:46:27 AM
Hi.

The Vamps have got their bats on, hip hip hip, Horay

Tha Vamps have got their bats on and they're coming out to play

http://z14.invisionfree.com/carpenoctem/index.php?showtopic=2383
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on June 26, 2007, 07:06:08 AM
Maybe the Tower of Vigilance could be a base of operations of the Hunters in the Barren Hills. I mean, they could be supported by the monks there, and its easily defendable.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 26, 2007, 02:37:52 PM
Clausewitz, very good point. Who has a strongly Sigmarite army and wishes to help those defending the tower?

I think we should still keep our base of operations at Egondorf, especially since we are facing the Vamps now as well!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 26, 2007, 04:20:29 PM
Egondorf should definitely remain our primary base of operations.  No question of that.

I just thought perhaps more than just Mark at the Tower.  As you say a Sigmarite army would be well suited.  Alas my army is not especially Sigmary or I would volunteer myself.

I am sure there is someone amongst our recruits to fit the bill??
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on June 26, 2007, 09:57:58 PM
My forces are generally Sigmarite - two Warrior Priests, a Archlector and 23 Flaggies Sigmarite enough for you?
I don't mind being transfered, mind that I'm fighting O+G (4000) this weekend
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 26, 2007, 10:44:20 PM
Well volunteered that man!  :biggriin:

With Commander Veldemere's approval we'll realloacte your forces to the Tower.

Sounds as though your army is about to run into a rather large WAAGH, good luck in your battle.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on June 27, 2007, 09:42:44 AM
Wahay, support at last, welcome brother :icon_smile:

My army is also quite Sigmarite, I have

A/L on War Alter
4 W/P
20 (new) flaggys
30 Knights that have changed order to "Hunters"
Plus all the usual state troops and Greatswords.

Also a Steam Tank which I'm calling "Sigmars Legacy"

Had 2 battles recently in pre campaign 1 against O&G and 1 vs Vampire Counts. I'm putting the reports on today.

Ive had good luck against O&G and am experienced in fighting them so the Tower will Hold.

  :biggriin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: MiB on June 27, 2007, 01:46:22 PM
Well, still trying to get the TK players organised and failing, theres a new post on there site from someone on here trying to do the same (and failing)

So... if anyone in the UK would care to mention any battles over ancient tombs and rumours of a legendary king guarded by druids awakening then hopefully I can get more exposure for the army of King Tigernamas

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73184

I may wind up fielding an empire army as well for this, that way I might be able to make a difference...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 27, 2007, 02:34:51 PM
Well done patch. No problem with the OnG as I think they will be pretty much everywhere. It might be helpful if we had 1 more at the tower.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: nosramuk on June 27, 2007, 03:11:19 PM
Signed up now.
Army name: Sigmars fury (Helstroms 4th)
Army leader: Captain George Luitdorf
Location in week 1: Egondorf

Dont know when we can start reporting battles but i got a few lined up this week, so Ill post the results of those when the report system is up and running.
Good luck lads, sock it to em!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Karl van Drak on June 27, 2007, 08:18:42 PM
What's this? Vampires in egondorf? My witch hunter's in Egondorf. He's a distant descendent of the van Draks. And he hates vampires...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on June 27, 2007, 09:46:17 PM
I played a battle today at the local GW store against my usual opponent (ogres) this morning. Only 750pts, but it was good practice for the doubles tournament coming up as I used the same army list I intend to. It was a solid victory, playing Flank Attack, mainly because my enemies forces arrived peacemeal, allowing me to deal with the front before worrying about the flank. Here's what I submitted:

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Commander,
While the White Company was marching its way from Tower of Vigilance we were ambushed by a force of Ogres. They launched an assault on us from the forest to the left of the road, and swept up the back of our formation, and only a determined counter-charge from the Hunters of Sigmar and our troops were able to put a stop to them. However we were not without a loss, as the colossal beasts destroyed one cannon and put flight to the unit of archers who had been acting as guides that we had recruited in a nearby village. None the less the majority of our forces emerged unscathed, and we were able to track down our attackers as they fled and butcher them to a man, and we have carried on, re-enforcing the Bitter Moon Tavern with cannon, halberd and musket as ordered. We are currently fortifying and expanding the current stonework, and await further orders.
Your Humblest Servant,
Rupert Ironside.
 Mercenary Captain of the White Company.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on June 28, 2007, 11:57:12 AM
Lord Veldemere,

I know that relations between your Solland movement and my beloved Wissenland have been strained for some time, but I am happy that we can put aside these differences for a greater good.

I send you this dispatch to let you know that we seem to have run into some sort of foul sorcery.  Our maps have lead us astray and the road that we marched down has lead us here.

The soldiers at my command are being sent to aid you at Egondorf and the Bitter Moon Inn.  We will aid you in these areas for as long as we can, until there is sign from our Celestial Wizard Rufas that we can continue our attacks in our region.
Sigmar Protect

O.v.B.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 28, 2007, 01:18:24 PM
Ahhh fighting side by side at last, may your sword remain true in the defence of Egonsdorf, 1 for 1 at the moment but will lost tonight I suspect!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on June 28, 2007, 01:45:36 PM
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=17037.0

I saw this thread and it reminded me just how many Empire players there are at my local store who aren't signed up. I thought it couldn't hurt if I tried to drum up a little interest with a recruitment poster, maybe even a weekly update, pending permission from the powers that be here and in store. What do you think?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 28, 2007, 02:07:01 PM
Please go for it. i noticed when I last checked there were only about 3 players registered in the UK with Helstroms 4th in their army name, we should have about 25 of us, toe the line chaps.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on June 28, 2007, 02:27:59 PM
I'd best post my battle reports and get my name up on the leader board - need one of my foes to register with the site. I will get the poster printed and down to my local GW tomorrow, every little helps.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on June 28, 2007, 02:30:18 PM
Yes, I too have noticed an apparent lack of numbers from this site registered so far.  Going by the numbers so far our numbers should have a significant effect.  Lets make our mark folks!

On that note I am pleased to annouce the first major victory for the Talabheim Irregulars (known as Helstom's 4th Talabheim Corps).

A 2k massacre against my brothers O&G.  Aided greatly by my usually lucky artillery  :-D

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Journal of Carl Von Clausewitz, Military Advisor to the Talabheim Irregulars.

27h June

It was a long and tiresome march from Talabheim to the Great Forest.  The troops, though, endured the hardships of the march without serious complaint.  Morale has remained good, with the men keen to make their mark on the coming struggles.

Our orders from General Helstrom directed us to Egonsdorf to aid in the defence and fortification of this, somewhat isolated, town; under the command of Lord Veldemere.  We made our billet just outside the town, near the forest to the east, and prepared for further orders.  The troops were much reassured when we were joined by a contingent of the Hunters of Sigmar, I fear we shall need men with such expertise in the coming battles.

28th June

Our first action of the campaign.  Near dawn our scouts reported a large band of greenskins massing near our deployment area.  The alarm raised; the Irregulars prepared our battle line and awaited the inevitable attack.

The enemy seemed well prepared, with several crude artillery pieces being moved up behind a mass of green bodies.

Battle began with the artillery of both sides exchanging fire.  Though some casualties were suffered our own cannon proved superior, knocking out the enemy artillery in short order.  Meanwhile our scouts and cavalry dueled with swift moving goblin cavalry.

The green tide then surged forward en mass crashing into our line.  I am proud to say that despite many casualties our line held and our disciple and training paid off.  One by one the enemy units were routed and sent running.  Our cavalry were able to run down a good number of the enemy, but some were able to melt into the forest into which we dared not risk further pursuit.

I hope to score a few more victories in store at the weekend.
[Edit- I will see if I can find any Empire generals not signed up in store while I am there.]
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on June 28, 2007, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: Karl van Drak on June 27, 2007, 08:18:42 PM
What's this? Vampires in egondorf? My witch hunter's in Egondorf. He's a distant descendent of the van Draks. And he hates vampires...

Err... :dry:

The reason the vamps are attacking Egondorf is that they are hunting it's residant witch hunter. I quote one of the Vamp leaders

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Let's hunt him for a change

I don't supose they can tell the diference between witch hunters...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Orlock on June 28, 2007, 09:33:25 PM
Oh my. I made a terrible blunder registering my army - 14th Altdorf Footguards led by Gen. Reikhard Muller. I omitted Helsroms 4th. However I will do my upmost from now on to mentioning the name at every available opportunity, after all I am but one link in an ever increasing chain.

That said, I fought my first battle against the Chaos filth outside of the town. From the jaws of defeat I snatched a draw. Outriders and cav saved the day as they took a valuable 3 table quarters.

Its good to be fighting.

Sigmar Protects
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on June 29, 2007, 09:02:57 AM
Try to get them to include Helstroms 4th in their army name if they have not yet registered, it really will make a difference.

At the moment we are still suffering a bit in the Barren Hills but keep it up chaps. Good start for you Clauswitz!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on June 30, 2007, 09:08:49 PM
We seem to be catching up to the stunties by the looks of it. I have a couple of good wins to post over the next two days that should help at the expense of the Orcs.

As for drumming up interest with the poster, the staff were good on the idea until the manager said that they'd need to run a criminal record check on people before they could post up any external links or contacts on their board... damn litigation culture. So it would require the forum to go through the GCN vetting process just for the sake of a sodding poster.

I have decided to change my angle of attack and I shall provide campaign updates that are neutral as far as regarding the forums, then just tell people about the place in person and hand peeps a poster that are interested.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: HeraldOfTheFree on June 30, 2007, 09:55:40 PM
Great news. We played a 500pts Mighty Empires campaign today at GW. 3 randomly determined factions each led by a staff member, luckily I got the Empire staff. With 5 victories, 4 Massacres, and 0 losses, I am coming first so far in-store, and I have been placed second in command of our faction! Helstrom's 4th is growing!
The campaign continues all through Summer to tie into the Nemesis Campaign.
But, I have a question. I won two games against Empire armies allied to Dark Elf heroes, because they were on the Dark Elf faction for today. Do I register this on the NC website as two victories against Dark Elves and explain this in the battle report?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on June 30, 2007, 09:58:02 PM
You could perhaps describe these Empire armies as hordes of armed, brainwashed slaves pushed in front of the Elf forces as cannon fodder?

Congrats on the general spanking you are inflicting in store! I hope to be doing the same soon in my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 01, 2007, 09:52:08 PM
Sircyn well done with your victories, by the looks of it we need as many as we can get in the barren hills (slipping slightly behind the average!). Unlucky with the local GW, always surprises me when people letpedantic potocol get in the way of corporate advancement, have the Thatcher years been forgotten by all? but please keep trying: united we stand!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 01, 2007, 11:04:15 PM
Did a 4000 point game against Orcs and Goblins today, pulled off a narrow draw (100 points off a win to me). Up against Vampire Counts next week (probably Strigoi). Wiped them off the map in the past. No worries.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on July 02, 2007, 09:05:58 AM
Pleased to report 4 Massacre victories against the vile Greenskins over the weekend, all at 2K against 3 different opponents :icon_biggrin:

Best bit was when my Greatswords with W/P, and sword detachment held against 20 Black Orcs and 25 Biguns and were then counter charged the following tun by A/L on W/A and 21 flaggys 7 wide in the flank, both units crumbled and victory was mine. It was a grudge match against a guy I beat the previous day. My HRL blew up first turn, His bolt throwers both hit my Outriders causing them to flee also on turn 1, and I rolled no less than 8 1s for armour saves for my Knights!!!

But hung in for massacre as all he had left at the end was 2 bolt throwers and a chariot!

Bad news is Im still registerd in the Us not UK :icon_cry: Have e-mailed GW so hope they will transfer the victories to us
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 02, 2007, 09:10:13 AM
noooo, we need those victories for the UK. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: nosramuk on July 02, 2007, 06:08:07 PM
Registered the other day, but Used Helstroms 5th in name instead of Helstroms 4th, "slaps head" well never mind, im sure they'll get the idea. That'll teach me not to register at 4 in the morning.

That aside just posting cause im wondering how u fellows in the barren hills are faring so far?

This is my stats at the moment

Location: Egondorf
Wins: 1 (100pts)

Haha! another win
That makes it 2. Second one was at 500pts.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on July 02, 2007, 07:27:56 PM
I picked up two more good wins against one of my regular opponents today, but I am going to have to go out in search of varied foes at my local GW now. I'm still racing to get my army painted. I'm really beginning to loathe all the irrelevant detail on my state trooper models. I swear if I see another hourglass I will scream.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: farmer on July 03, 2007, 06:21:14 AM
I have 2 Massacres (Empire victorys) to still to report on the Nemesis Crown web site. 1 at 2000 points and the other at 3000 points. Waiting for my opponents to give me there register information.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 03, 2007, 07:13:47 AM
Good job farmer, keep up the work.

We seem to be a little behind the national average in the barren hills, but I am not entirely trusting their stats as it said there were no Empire postings yesterday when 2 had been posted to my knowledge (1 by me, 1 by my opponent).

Not looking great at the moment I am currently 4-1-2, luckily wins in the big battles but playing lots of border patrols at the moment.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on July 03, 2007, 09:42:39 AM
At least we have two Helstrom's 4th topping the Empire leaderboard in the Barren Hills and we can take heart in that the rating numbers will be reset on Wednesday. Looking further on the bright side we have the Orcs languishing down near the bottom of the table and are still ahead of the High Elves.

The dwarfs must have been eating their spinach this week, they are stomping off out of reach.

It would be a real morale booster to see our efforts recognised even in a minor fashion.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 04, 2007, 09:52:57 AM
It seems week 1 has passed but I don't seem to be able to see the weekly scores other than the weekly battle count.

But it occurs to me we need to plan for week 2, if I may offer my 2 penneth-

Imitially it is essential we need to keep a presence and stong defence at Egonsdorf and the Bitter moon (all difficult to say until we can see how the battles went there)

The Tower of Vigilance needs a defensive force.

So far all the same as week 1, here is where I throw in a spanner, I would like to take an agressive expeditionary force to Tor Thana. My thinking behind that is not with a plan to take it (unless the opportunity arises) but due to the battle between the Asur and Druchii there, the Asur always seem to be low in the rankings and the Druchii are riding high. From what they say about it there is some powerful magic there which is currently a blight in the Empire due to its decrepit nature, if the Druchii or VC get it this will only get worse (and we most certainly do not want either faction to get a foothold in the Empire). I feel it is in the best interests all round to take it for ourselves or for our traditional allies the Asur.

What are your thoughts?

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: WarbossKurgan on July 04, 2007, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: Veldemere on July 04, 2007, 09:52:57 AM
It seems week 1 has passed but I don't seem to be able to see the weekly scores other than the weekly battle count.

The site will be updated in about 2 hours: Read this thread! (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=17001.0)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on July 04, 2007, 04:57:50 PM
Congrats to Clausewitz on getting his name in lights!

We got first, and we got a mention. This is great stuff. In the Barren Hills we need to play catch up and improve our rating, we need to get out and play more games.

A disappointment of mine is that we didn't get individual racial reports. That would have really given us a better chance of having our fluff get up there. I think whatever we do this week we must put more effort into reiterating our fluff objectives in each report we make.

I like the bit about the Empire and Beasts ambushing the Orcs in the forest, as that is what I have been up to this past week. Unfortunately this seems to clash with our recivilisation program as now GW has made out that we are using the cover of the forest to our advantage. Grimgor is stomping around burning down the forests as we have been pouncing on the greenskins from its shelter. I don't know how this will affect us.

No mention of our defensive/fortification efforts. Perhaps we ought to come up with a catchy name for the defensive triangle and try and use it everywhere?

As for marching on Tor Thana I don't know. On one hand I don't like the DE but on the other I am still in a spiteful mood after the HE rebuffed us. I would like them to come begging to us on their knees and willing to reassess their diplomatic situation.
Also if we go to tor thana we may be diluting our efforts to get our agenda on the GW fluff by changing approach so quickly. I'm undecided as to what we should be doing.

Edit. Ah Jerok is on the move! Knew I should have waited a bit before posting. Looking forwards to the plan for this week.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on July 04, 2007, 06:53:13 PM
Don't go for the Tor. Trust me on that. Whatever happens, the Empire already has a stake in it. [/criptic]
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 04, 2007, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: Sircyn on July 04, 2007, 04:57:50 PM
Congrats to Clausewitz on getting his name in lights!

We got first, and we got a mention. This is great stuff. In the Barren Hills we need to play catch up and improve our rating, we need to get out and play more games.

Where did we get a mention? I looked over the Nemesis site, and couldn't find anything!

Found it! Never mind!  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 04, 2007, 11:22:52 PM
I was also immensly gratified to see Helstrom's 4th get so prominant a mention.  Especially if that was on all the races dispatches.

I note that the Skaven plan got a mention and the chaos faction got their "Cursemaster" idea included.

Veldemere, we discussed moving forces to Tor Thana when outlining the plan prior to the campaign.  There was general agreement that we would move there when we believed that Egondorf and the Bitter Moon were secure.  Since the Empire got 1st overall and we got 4th in Barren Hills that suggests that things are going relatively well.

However, we don't yet know what the result of our battle locations has been/will be.

This may require a "command decision" Veldemere.  :-)

If Lord Veldemere commands the Irregulars to march on Tor Thana they shall obey.  :ph34r:

Given the length of the Empire section of the dispatches it is unlikely (IMO, unless the length changes) that their will be that much detail.  So details about fortifications might not be the best way to go.  We should keep plugging the Hunters of Sigmar though, I think they have a good chance of attaining a high enough profile to warrant mention.

Sircyn, thank you for your congratulations.  I'm glad my forces can do their part in our effort.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on July 05, 2007, 12:22:02 AM
There is one small quote that gets me thinking we should stay the course for the next week.

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This is a summary of the events of the first week of the Nemesis Crown campaign. Next week's newsletter will bring you a more detailed account of the battles fought by each race, so keep reporting your battles if you want to influence your army's standing in the campaign!

I think this might mean we get sensible racial specific reports for next week. If that is the case I would prefer to keep pounding on our first set of objectives to help get our global agenda recognised.

That said I won't disobey orders whatever way the decision goes.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 05, 2007, 10:36:18 AM
Ok here we go with plans for Week 2. With the Druchii riding quite high I am loathed to leave Egonsdorf un-defended (bearing in mind we were only 4th in our region). I suggest the irregulars lead a small expeditionary force to the Ruins, I need 1 or 2 'volunteers' to assist, bearing in mind we will be working alongside the Dwarves on this location!

Tostig may I ask you to continue your good work at the bitter moon, similarly Mark Perry in your defence of the Tower.


Egonsdorf

Graf Veldemere- Veldemere- Regional Commander
Jacob Marley - Guvnor
BingoBongoEmpire
Sharpe
Markus von Kluge - Narses101
Captain Karl Vontra - phil1103
Alberich Von Ludenhoff
GrandMaster Leon von  Eberhardt – Morden
Commander Jakob Storscham – Barracuda101
General Wilhelm Henrich Romanov – General Romanov
Grand Master Sanjiven Singh Aujla – Helborg
Margrave Mattayus Luddensburg – Hendrid
General Martin Keats – Douchie
Baron Reinhardt von Schadelandoese - Sircyn
Richter Eisenburg – Solkan
Klaus Von Helling – No 17
bobby bob – nooobie 69
Captain Karl von Drak- Karl von Drak
Spiney
Nosramuk
Marshall Gerhardt

The Bitter Moon

Tostig- Rupert Ironside- Sub Commander
HeraldOfTheFree

The Tower of Vigilance

Mark Perry
Hans Von Wynter – Patch

The Ruins of Tor Thana

Carl von Clausewitz- Clausewitz- Sub Commander
Master Boris Hertwig - Ostermarker


If I have missed anyone or not got anyones General correct please PM me. Please also read the post from Jerok about battle reports for week 2.

Fight well this week, for the Empire!

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on July 05, 2007, 04:53:31 PM
I'll aid Clauswitz at Tor Thana, some of my mates play DE, so this could easily be managed. I'd like to see what they think of my Giant, the Big Tzar, named because:

a) he's a giant
b) he came from Kislev into the Empire.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 05, 2007, 05:33:30 PM
Well volunteered Ostermarker.

Just to make sure I have the correct details to mention in dispatches..

Your General is Boris Hertwig in command of the Ulricswaffe?
So this is a Ostermark based army?  Black and white colours?

The Big Tzar.. how bizarre!  :-D
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on July 05, 2007, 05:39:17 PM
Ostermark is yellow and purple or white and purple, they're not painted yet :biggriin:, have to decide, the coin says white and purple.

Ostland is black and white.


Everything else is right.


Carl von Clauswitz of the Talabheim corps (that's red and white isn't it?) of Helstrom's 4th.
Is that right?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 05, 2007, 07:42:22 PM
Beg your pardon, white and purple it is.  (I will try and refrain from mentioning your Giants purple hose..)  :laugh:

Clausewitz (with the e)  :wink:
Talabheim Irregulars (was too long for registration thus the talabheim corps used for that).  Yes, classic red and white colours.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 05, 2007, 08:30:39 PM
General Hans Von Wynter sucked on his tea. It was the horrible, three times boiled mulch that most soldiers carried in their packs. He'd drank it when he had been a Sergeant in the Altdorf 2nd, and still drank it when he was it's commanding officer. His men smoked and talked quietly, ignoring the rain that drizzled down on them.
The 2nd Division were finally resting, having been from Egondorf to the Giant's Tump and back again, pursuing a tenacious Greenskin army who had been roaming the forests.

He looked up as a rider came into the encampment. He looked like trouble.
"I'm looking for General Von Wynter!" The young man looked flushed, he'd ridden hard from the armies commanders.
"Here, boy," He took the offered message, ignoring the salute. His lips moved for a second as he read the message, then looked quickly around the camp. "Officers to me!" He bellowed. He glared at the messenger, as if this was his fault. "You stay here, boy, command will be wanting our response," He paused, then smiled. "Get yourself a fresh horse, and a stein of ale, you've got quite a ride ahead of you."

The command staff gazed at the map. "We're here, the Tower of Vigilance is... here," Schmid, Von Wynter's adjunct pressed his thumb nail into the soft parchment. "Two days march."
The General nodded. "Send a message to the Graf. The Altdorf 2nd is on it's way."
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 06, 2007, 09:23:04 AM
Good man General von Wynter, Mr Perry will be grateful of the assistance.

Clausewitz I apologise that I have consistently spelt you name incorrectly please find that remedied on the roster along with Ostermarkers new billetting, fight well men.

On a lighter note I fitted in 3 border patrols last night, 3 massacres to the Empire!

Remember to check Jeroks post on battle reports we have succeeded in making Helstroms 4th prominent in the campaign, now lets do it for the hunters.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on July 06, 2007, 09:43:09 AM
It looks like I'm going to have to register again with a new commander, General Scholl will not be happy!!! Or take part in the Talabec Borders as GW still havent moved me over :icon_cry:

I want to take part in the UK campaign but damn it Ive had 4 massacres and 2 Solid Victories that I dont want to lose. Grrrrr.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 06, 2007, 09:50:55 AM
Bloody hell, what a choice to make, I would love to have you with us Mark, you managed that in a week, there are still plenty more weeks to go and you can catch up. Besides Clausewitz needs someone to challenge him, after special mentions in GW dispatches he is in danger of winning this one on his own!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on July 06, 2007, 10:07:30 AM
Oh what the hell, ill start a new General, I'll try and get a few re-matches with the Orc guys I play with before they jet off back to the US, I should be able to get 3 or 4 games in over the next couple of days as the Misses is planning a shopping extravaganza with her friends.

Ill give GW one last prod with a pointy stick first though, I owe to old Max :biggriin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 06, 2007, 10:10:41 AM
Good man, and if your missus is anything like mine enjoy it whilst she is away on her shopping trip, as the fun ends when you get the credit card bill!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 07, 2007, 04:32:21 PM
Problem - my opponent has decided to drop out, and I've ended up fighting Lizardmen. I take it I'm not allowed to leave any fluff about fighting them, but I can still put it in as a battle to the Nemesis site, correct?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 07, 2007, 07:31:34 PM
We have nothing official in place alliying ourselves to the Lizzies, post ahead. If you are at all worried post them as a renegade band who have gone against the slann.

But they are my bogey army so good luck to you and I hope you can get a result.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 07, 2007, 09:59:00 PM
[Rubs hands together with Glee]
Great, Thanks alot!  :-D
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 08, 2007, 07:11:24 PM
Now I have to ask - was it worth it?
Solid defeat. I hate games that I don't have more than a couple of days preparing...  :x
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 08, 2007, 09:16:16 PM
I never spend more than half an hour preparing as I don't want to think that my terrible tactics are because I am incompetent, more that I didn't take the time to prepare. And if you do sneak a win you are a tactical genius, win win I suppose (although the first is no doubt true!).

But skinks get on my nerves!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 08, 2007, 11:02:44 PM
His Skinks were not really the problem - he had two Stegadons, and two Slann. Everything else was Saurus, with a character leading each block with a great weapon (S7!)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 08, 2007, 11:10:02 PM
We're not doing that well this week. I blame myself...  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 09, 2007, 08:19:53 AM
So do we all Patch (only joking). I am not calling foul but I do wonder if there are any 'sandbagging' measures put on our performance, after all it may put people off the campaign if one faction started running away with it. Not sure about the rest of you but I have had a great week compared to last week and Empire still seem to be riding high in the army tables.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 10, 2007, 11:30:44 AM
Well chaps not looking good this week, if the lists close tomorrow the way they stand we are going to take a thumping. If any of you have not yet posted wins can I urge you to do so as with good points from week one even an average week will keep us in the running. I have one more battle tonight and then 2 on Wednesday, but they will be too late to post I suspect.

We just need to move up a couple of places to get some points from this region.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 11, 2007, 06:39:23 AM
Looks like we've pulled it back a bit! Great going guys!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on July 11, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
Got a Solid Victory against TK 1k to report (ill do it this afternoon). I'm starting my new general from tommorow as GW still havent changed me over GRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Good news there is an event at GW Oxford St this weekend so I hope to get some more victories then - please Sigmar!!

@ Veldemere went to the club last night - where I got the victory, PM me and ill let you know my impressions
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on July 11, 2007, 12:41:36 PM
Chaos Dwarf movements along the road, border of Talabec region and Barren Hills.  If you want to include them in your fluff, check out Grimstonefire's post:
http://www.warvault.net/nemesis/viewtopic.php?t=150 (http://www.warvault.net/nemesis/viewtopic.php?t=150)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 11, 2007, 05:52:41 PM
My gaming night is Tuesday night so its a struggle to get the reports in before the weekly summary.  But I see its not there yet and I got two more massacres registered todayso they might just count.

Not quite enough to catch up with Veldemere though  :-)

Looks like our commander is leading by example this week.  Congratulations, my Lord.

[Edit: two minutes after my post the summary is out  :roll: ]
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 11, 2007, 09:49:53 PM
Congratulations, My Lord and Brother General!
If only I could put in as high a work rate as you two, with as much success. :eusa_clap:

Just noticed that Egondorf was raided by Dark Elves. Blooming Druchii stole all the kids, apparently. I donno, I've been at the Tower all week.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 12, 2007, 07:25:26 AM
The number of  our citizens captured by the Druchii was tiny compared to their losses!

Clausewitz- Week 2 was good for me, week 3 not looking good. Got my arse handed to me by the VCs last night and am due to face dwarven army that I usually lose to. You will be back at your rightful position of number 1 next week!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on July 12, 2007, 07:43:58 AM
Wasn't us. We were at tor thana. Some Malekith loyalist or other.(in other words, GW ignoring us. :icon_evil:)
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 12, 2007, 08:43:37 AM
Veldemere - I have a loss that will get reported this week as well. I agreed to let one of my Druchii opponents register a win for his side "winning" a mega-battle in store at the weekend, even though the game was a joke (6 players v 4 players and deployment was "you have 5 minutes to get it all on the board").  What would be very cool would be if someone from Helstrom's 4th could get the third place, a clean sweep for w-e in the UK would be nice.

Interestingly the same player was 2nd in the UK for the Druchii this week.  So that sets up some nice grudge match opportunities for me.  :ph34r:

(Especially as I get wounded in his fluff!)

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation- WEEK 3 ORDERS UP
Post by: Veldemere on July 12, 2007, 10:18:23 AM
Get that grudge match set up!

Ok starting to think about week 3. Obviously week 2 has hurt us (particularly in the Barren Hills) and normally I would advocate prudence and protection to be our watchwords but it would appear that there are some races who think we are starting to roll over, this is not the case and it is time to take the fight to them!

Egondorf troops it is time to start building roads to connect Egondorf to the Bitter Moon and the Tower of Vigilance, all troops fighting in these locations should make note that we are not just cutting roads through the woods but also clearing both sides of the road to a depth of half a bowshot. This is to reduce the ambushes on our troops, we would have clear shots at any opponent before they reach us. The citizens of Egondorf have already agreed to provide able bodies to cut the trees if we provide troops to defend them.

I am still unsure as to the validity of the GDAs plans round Tor Thana and noted with interest that despite so many races apparently fighting there it did not get a mention that I saw. In fact I was horrified when I read that the Druchii killed or caught an entire generation of the citizens of Egondorf! How did they manage this, they finished 13th in the region and got this fluff! I would suggest it was better to report that the Dark Elves got into Egondorf and got wiped out by a vastly superior Empire force. It is for this reason I say we forget Tor Thana and any invented magic items and concentrate on what we need to do.

Clausewitz if you can take your battalion and your new charge is to find any information on the Crown, as a sub-order send pigeons back to Egondorf with any information you find on enemy movement (I know you have only recently recieved your last bilet but at the moment I think it is a dead horse).
To this end if people can mention in their battle reports that they found the enemy based on information provided by Carl von Clausewitz, hopefully GW will note this and accept that we are not just sitting around defending ourselves we are active!

Any fights you have against Druchii make it clear we are recapturing our captured Empire citizens, if we all put this they will have to take note and we can go some way to righting this slight.

Your Thoughts?

For the Empire
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 12, 2007, 10:37:23 AM
Another thing perhaps worth mentioning if you get a chance is the chaos Dwarf fluff.

As you know GW made a CD special character and I think there were a lot of people hopeful that this would mean CD armies would be recognised in the campaign. This is not the case and they have had to lump in with the greenskins (not really their fault). I would urge you to support the fluff, further information can be found here: http://www.warvault.net/nemesis/viewtopic.php?p=35#35 (http://www.warvault.net/nemesis/viewtopic.php?p=35#35)

Who knows, maybe there will be a 7th edition list for them one day!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on July 12, 2007, 11:58:12 AM
There was mention in the High Elf report I think about Tor Thana and how they took Beligos Hill with the aide of some Dwarfs.  Also, the Druchii were upset by the Egonsdorf bit as well.  That wasn't in their fluff so they think some mini campaign at a shop somewhere got a nod over their fluff objectives.

I'm planning for a massive counter offensive to purge the forest and search the crown next week, take the fight to them.  I see that you're already beginning this action, Veldemere.  Micheal W was proposing we continue to strengthen roads, which you are also doing, to help search for the crown.

I won't ask you to mess with your plans, but I do ask that you help me organize for next week.  Our regions especially need to be coordinated with the massive amounts of battles we have.  What say you?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Sircyn on July 12, 2007, 12:45:00 PM
A massive simultaneous offensive across the two most populous regions does sound rather enticing!

I must also say I'm surprised I'm still 4th Empire player in Barren Hills despite not playing a game for days, might be thanks to the cheaters being bewted. Great work guys on getting our Helstrom's 4th up to the mentions in dispatches. I'm going to try and get myself up in lights this week, that's if I can get more people registered. Beating on my regular opponents now isn't going to get me anywhere. I'm a little miffed that the staff in my local GW aren't encouraging people to sign up online.

Glad to see that the roads and forest clearances have been mentioned. My army is out searching for my lost War Shrine of Morr at present and it fits nicely in with the aggressive stance for the forces of the Empire this week. I'll soon resolve this and get stuck into leading volunteer navvie groups to further improve the road networks.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 12, 2007, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: wissenlander on July 12, 2007, 11:58:12 AM
There was mention in the High Elf report I think about Tor Thana and how they took Beligos Hill with the aide of some Dwarfs.  Also, the Druchii were upset by the Egonsdorf bit as well.  That wasn't in their fluff so they think some mini campaign at a shop somewhere got a nod over their fluff objectives.

I'm planning for a massive counter offensive to purge the forest and search the crown next week, take the fight to them.  I see that you're already beginning this action, Veldemere.  Micheal W was proposing we continue to strengthen roads, which you are also doing, to help search for the crown.

I won't ask you to mess with your plans, but I do ask that you help me organize for next week.  Our regions especially need to be coordinated with the massive amounts of battles we have.  What say you?

Sorry mate, I had noticed that your region had already posted its week 3 orders so I thought I had better get started so as the Barren Hills are not left behind.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on July 12, 2007, 12:57:20 PM
No problem.  It's hard to coordinate on such short notice.  Your objectives aren't out of line in what you want to do really.  We're just gearing up right now.  We're being more agressive in the Talabec area as well, just not full out yet.  Your strategy actually fits in perfectly, you genius you.

I'm going to start a thread to organize for next week's offensive!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 12, 2007, 05:49:54 PM
Veldemere, new orders recieved and understood, sah!

I will also happily include the attempts to rescue civilians from any Druchii I meet.

I agree with cautious agression this week.  We want to push our objectives but we daren't risk over reaching after week 2.

Right, I'm off to relieve the Master Engineer of his pigeons before he blows any more of them up...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on July 13, 2007, 09:36:59 AM
Arg. Played my first game in about half a month yesterday, and i got absolutely mullered by a Brettonian player. My handgunners missed entirely, my knights had rubber lances, my swordsmen lost their warrior priest and champion in the first turn and my cannonballs either got stuck in the mud or bounced off his knights. Oh well, at least it wasn't a NC match.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Mark Perry on July 13, 2007, 10:51:41 AM
Guys I am sorry to report that I am unable to Transfer General Scholl to the Baron Hills, and I am also unable to create a new General, apparently If I want to create a new General, I will not only have to set up a new e-mail account, but also change computer as apparently GW are monitering the IP address that people use. Damn and Blast it to Haides!!!

I'm really annoyed as I have sent GW numerious polite e-mails and phoned GW HQ as well but with no luck I'm affraid. So reluctantly i will be keeping my command with our brave forces in the Talabec Borders.

Best of luck to you all,
May Sigmar keep us victorious,

and may GW's computer come down with a heavy cold!!!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on July 13, 2007, 01:51:16 PM
I got word from the Dark Elves on the Egonsdorf slave thing.  The forum had nothing to do with that, they were miffed about how a small club campaign got the nod over them.  They did say that if you mentioned anything about the slave recapture to note that they are helping the Druchii construct earthworks around Tor Thana.  This way it would help out their fluff even though it inititally didn't.

Just thought I'd let you all know that bit of info.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Demonslayer on July 13, 2007, 02:17:42 PM
Hey guys. I'm just dropping by to tell you all GW has now officially decided to not transfer my account to the Howling Hills, so I guess I'm stuck here  :icon_wink:. Congratulations, the DemonSlayer has joined your cause. Let our foes tremble and weep in fear and despair, for their end IS nigh (don't worry Perry, I'll crack a few skulls on your behalf  :icon_twisted:)!
So, what's the plan :-)? I'[ve been reporting my battles (four massacres) at Bitter Moon up till now, reporting on how the Empire cuts away the woods around that place. I've also given the Hunters of Sigmar a place to shine. Anything else I should add?
Unfortunately nobody I know plays dark elves. So no slave liberation actions for me! Though I could always try and get a game with a skaven player I know...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 13, 2007, 06:50:16 PM
Mark you will be missed, I'm sure you'll do us proud in the Talabec Borders.

Demonslayer, welcome to the Barren Hills.  Veldemere is in command and has final say on our orders, but I think there is a logical answer to the question of your assignment.

Since Mark was our lone presence at the Tower of Vigilance and he has been "sent north by higher powers", we have need of a presence there.

I would suggest you move your forces to the Tower.  Where you would follow the usual tactics of clearing forest and roads nearby and generally fortifying.  In addition you would keep an eye out for information on the NC.  Finally, as you will see from previous posts we are trying to act in a more coordinate agressive manner, so you might report that your recieved enemy army locations by pigeon from my general.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 14, 2007, 05:51:24 AM
Quote from: clausewitz on July 13, 2007, 06:50:16 PM
Mark you will be missed, I'm sure you'll do us proud in the Talabec Borders.

Since Mark was our lone presence at the Tower of Vigilance and he has been "sent north by higher powers", we have need of a presence there.

[Taps foot on the ground and looks annoyed at Clausewitz, wondering if the victories he's placed there against the Ruinous powers really matter after all]

Quote from: Mark Perry on July 13, 2007, 10:51:41 AM
Guys I am sorry to report that I am unable to Transfer General Scholl to the Baron Hills, and I am also unable to create a new General, apparently If I want to create a new General, I will not only have to set up a new e-mail account, but also change computer as apparently GW are monitering the IP address that people use. Damn and Blast it to Haides!!!

Make yourself a new email address (either Yahoo or AOL), and sign on as your name, +"Jr". Make yourself 12 years old, and they'll send you an email to your main address, asking if you to confirm that you allow your child to take part. That'll avoid their annoying little IP checker.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on July 14, 2007, 05:03:05 PM
Got atrociously mullered today in the only battle of the tourney that mattered (my partner turned up late because of trains.) A bit unit of black knights and a coach swept down the left flank behind cover from my only cannon, through two units of ogres as though they weren't there, pivoted, and then through our line. The only chance I had to shoot at it my cannon bounced only two inches - and ended up half an inch short. That was my only real chance to kill the thing, and apart from a few goblins (his partner) and a couple of units of ghouls, we couldn't really touch them. In fact the goblin fanatics I bought out with my archers ended up doing more damage to enemy battle line than we did! Still, at least my cannon plucked out a chariot.

What was even worse was that the beardy git playing undead was the nicest guy there - he'd just turned up expecting a more competitive tourney than anyone else. Ogres MSU just couldn't take the damage, and by the end of the game the coach had 26 wounds.

Oh well, at least none of them had NC IDs.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 14, 2007, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Patch on July 14, 2007, 05:51:24 AM
Quote from: clausewitz on July 13, 2007, 06:50:16 PM
Mark you will be missed, I'm sure you'll do us proud in the Talabec Borders.

Since Mark was our lone presence at the Tower of Vigilance and he has been "sent north by higher powers", we have need of a presence there.

[Taps foot on the ground and looks annoyed at Clausewitz, wondering if the victories he's placed there against the Ruinous powers really matter after all]

My humblest apologies Patch.  My chief of filing has been reprimanded for loosing your assignment orders from my archives.  I am sending your men six kegs of ale we found after some dwarves left in haste after a recent skirmish.  I hope this will make amends.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 14, 2007, 09:48:28 PM
Apologies accepted, Brother-General. I will hold the line here, and wait for reinforcements before I can turn my boys to slightly more agressive tactics. Facing those Damned Lizards again tomorrow - we'll see what's occuring.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Demonslayer on July 15, 2007, 06:47:32 PM
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=17326.0

So, shall we do as I proposed? Does anybody have a different idea? Or are we going to let the spe take our land?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Kaihlik on July 15, 2007, 07:17:43 PM
Quote from: clausewitz on July 12, 2007, 08:43:37 AM
Veldemere - I have a loss that will get reported this week as well. I agreed to let one of my Druchii opponents register a win for his side "winning" a mega-battle in store at the weekend, even though the game was a joke (6 players v 4 players and deployment was "you have 5 minutes to get it all on the board").  What would be very cool would be if someone from Helstrom's 4th could get the third place, a clean sweep for w-e in the UK would be nice.

Interestingly the same player was 2nd in the UK for the Druchii this week.  So that sets up some nice grudge match opportunities for me.  :ph34r:

(Especially as I get wounded in his fluff!)



I didn't know where to post this but I would like to appologise to Clausewitz as the result of that battle damaging his score alot more than I thought it would. He will of course kick me into the ground when I see him tuesday but I thought the game would be a good opertunity for the Dark Elves and Empire to mention their fluff goals and set up a Grudge Match relationship between Carl and Kaihlik. The good thing is that it had caused a bigger difference in our scores so a massicare or solid victory should send him right back up the board (and me right down it again :icon_frown:).
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on July 16, 2007, 09:43:19 AM
With regards to the High Elf treachery - we obviously cannot continue to support them, and in my opinion we ought to oppose them as strongly as possibly. Clausewitz obviously shouldn't continue to help them at Tor Thana - what he does is his decision. I would fight against the HE, even if it meant siding with the Druchii, but he's his own man, and he should be welcome to find new enemies.

Personally I feel that their devious backstabbing couldn't have come at a better time. We were looking for an opponent for next week's big push, one who wasn't already at the bottom of the leader board - and oh looksie, we have one.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 16, 2007, 10:13:47 AM
The HE and Druchii are not just fighting each other, but I agree that until we recieve a formal petition from the HE they are to be considered an invading force in the Barren Hills and as such we owe them no quarter, they have proven themselves to be duplicitous!

This does not mean we should take our focus from the primary goals: Protect Egondorf and the Bitter Moon, Fortify the Tower of Vigilance, Build and Protect roads, retrieve captured citizens from the Druchii, oh and find the crown!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 16, 2007, 10:14:30 AM
Tostig, Carl has already been ordered to leave Tor Thana.  Veldemere decided that the GDA plan to take it wasn't working and seemed too fanciful.  And my last battle reported the Irregular's at Marchen's Henge fighting the forces of chaos.

Personally, I would rather we just ignored the Asur's plan and the battle between the Druchii and Asur at Tor Thana.  Let them batter each other there while we pacify the rest of the region.

Carl wouldn't side with the Druchii (not while he is still recovering from being stabbed by one anyway!).  Speaking of which Carl will be looking forward to meeting Kaihlik tomorrow.  Thanks for your post Kaihlik, it is nice to coordinate fluff (even if it is with a druchii).

But I do agree that we have given the Asur many chances to come to agreement with us and they have spurned those opportunities.  With some regret I concur that we must fight them.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on July 16, 2007, 02:12:25 PM
I posted on Asur.org what they could expect from you guys.  I basically just told them that it would be ignored for the most part but we as a whole, and mostly you guys (since you have to deal with it more than anyone else) are a bit miffed that they keep saying they'll grab this land and that.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 16, 2007, 03:35:10 PM
I think we should leave the Druchii and HE to their own devices. There is an age-old motto that I think should be applied to this campaign - "Keep it Simple, Stupid".
We're gumming up our own works by agreements here and there. As far as we know, we have a tact agreement with the Skaven (I once ran a WFRP campaign based on the Skaven sheltering in the Empire - they backstabbed us in that as well), seem to be assisting the HE, who (with the exception of Teclis I have no respect for at all), and now seem to be working along side the damned Druchii!.
At the start of the campaign we allied with the Bretonnians. The other races didn't seem to want to know, and still don't really have any interest in our fluff or objectives. So long as we stay true to our objectives and make sure we keep our ar*es covered, we'll be okay.

And let the pointy ears say that they'll grab this and grab that - we all know that the heart of the Empire is a dark one, and no-one rules the forests for long. With all our technology and advances, the forests are still places to be fearful.

Oh, and I nailed the Lizards on Sunday.  :-D
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Karl van Drak on July 16, 2007, 05:49:33 PM
I'm with Patch - let's burn some heretics, mutants and assorted other scum!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on July 16, 2007, 08:45:17 PM
My shop has recently got a new manager (a long story, the old one, who is a legend, had to step down for medical reasons), and I was in there on his first day, when he was whipping the two unfortunate blueshirts into shape. It sounds like he'll be getting quite heavily into the NC campaign, and as a rough idea of what's coming up from the Exeter Store, from the Holidays Planner I got given, and my memory:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 17, 2007, 03:56:45 AM
whow-mamma! We're up there in second place at 5am! Just got to stay there till 4pm this afternoon. Sadly, we're lower down the table, globally...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 17, 2007, 08:30:16 AM
Tostig, shame you won't be able to make many of those, it sounds like they have come up with some great scenarios.

With regards to my personal annoyance directed towards various factions, this is not to distract from the main game plan.

For this week we are defending Egondorf, the Bitter Moon and the Tower with Clausewitz starting the information gathering to help us find the crown.

There are already plans being discussed for when we go on the offensive, if you want to have an input in that please check the week 4 thread. I agree with those who have said that we should let the other races fight it out and then deal with the few survivors, which is why Clausewitz was pulled away from Tor Thana onto more important duties.

All I would say is that when we fight Druchii mention that we recapture some of out citizens, when we fight High Elves mention that they were trying to land grab and you are trying to prevent them.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 17, 2007, 08:32:29 PM
Lord Veldemere,

I am pleased to report that the Irregulars achieved some measure of revenge against Lord Kaihlik's Druchii.  The full report is in the battle reports thread, but short version is; dragon was killed and a marginal victory.

The downside is that I actually LOST points on my NC rating after posting this win!!   :-(
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 17, 2007, 09:17:01 PM
Oh, that sucks, big time. Well done on the win General Clausewitz.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 18, 2007, 09:27:59 AM
Well done on the win, seems a little harsh to lose points, are they much behind you points wise?

The fluff should make it worth it!

Strong battle reports, you are putting in some good groundwork for the offensive.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 18, 2007, 09:36:42 AM
I think he's now about 100 points behind.  After I gave him the win the previous week he was ahead of me.  But before I got my revenge he lost to a dwarf player and dropped a lot of points.  Apparently he gained points for loosing to me.  :eusa_wall:

I really wanted to point this out as a warning to everyone.  If you play someone with a lower rating, and you don't get a massacre (never mind loosing), it possible for your rating to go down.  It surprised me so hopefully folks can be wary of this.

It also means that playing lower rated opponents is a big danger, if they realise they can "win" by not getting massacred they can employ points denial tactics.  :roll:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on July 18, 2007, 09:41:39 AM
Nemesis rating does not equal points for your faction (I think). It's just a ranking system amoungst the players.

If someone knows I'm worng, please contridict me, but I think I'm right.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 18, 2007, 09:42:12 AM
That seems entirely counterproductive as all lower ranked players want to play higher ranked ones, I hope we never see a situation where someone refuses a game as they are scared of losing.

Have they closed off this week already?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 18, 2007, 09:50:07 AM
Tillman, yes the rating and faction scoring are separate.

Veldemere, it does seem rather counter-productive.  Already there are players in my store that if I massacre I might gain <20 points.  But if I do not massacre them I will loose points.  And should I loose I can drop by much more than the potential gain.  Its especially tough as some armies are simply hard to gain a massacre over.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: wissenlander on July 18, 2007, 05:18:06 PM
They really hit home the Egonsdorf/Dark Elf part again this week.  I've been writing into my fluff against Dark Elves that we're attempting to rescue prisoners as well.  Keep up the good fight gents!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on July 18, 2007, 05:43:11 PM
Are there any left to save?

Quote
alongside the population of Eggonsdorf, whose lives had been offered up to Khaine for the glory of Naggaroth

from the report.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: MiB on July 18, 2007, 08:48:17 PM
Is anyone else having problems viewing this weeks results/story?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tillmann Spyri on July 18, 2007, 08:49:51 PM
It's the UK page. Change K to S and it works perfectly.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 18, 2007, 10:33:11 PM
I am sorry but my gander is up again, what the hell is this all about the the (can't win a battle to save sh*t from drowning) Druchii killing all the people in the village in the Barren Hils, I call it the village because even within official fluff they have called it Egondorf, Egonsdorf, Eggondorf and Eggonsdorf, if someone has more time than me could they check the Druchii, I have not found a single druchii battle amongst the top ten in or region that has taken place in Egondorf in the last 2 weeks.

Druchii.net is equally confused!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 19, 2007, 12:41:23 AM
http://nemesis.uk.games-workshop.com/campaign/record.aspx?pid=14126 (http://nemesis.uk.games-workshop.com/campaign/record.aspx?pid=14126)

http://nemesis.uk.games-workshop.com/campaign/record.aspx?pid=9469 (http://nemesis.uk.games-workshop.com/campaign/record.aspx?pid=9469)

Just those two out of the top 25 Druchii in the Barren Hills.

Ever seen Blazing Saddles?

I think someone has been going around the Barren Hills making fake towns and naming them Egondorf/Egonsdorf/Eggondorf/Eggonsdorf/Eggsondwarf/...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 19, 2007, 08:41:02 AM
By gosh I think you way have something there. Perhaps we should discuss it round a campfire with a plate of beans!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation- Week 4
Post by: Veldemere on July 19, 2007, 09:07:18 AM
Ok here are the plans for week 4:

OFFENCE
We are setting out on the offence this week, for too long have we been waiting for the enemy to come to us and seeing no reward for our actions with the villagers being taken anyway. We will take the fight to them, whoever they are wherever they are.

Sub-commander Tostig will be spearheading the assaults on enemy races if you can all feature in dispatches that he will be ensuring that we are hittin out at the right targets and not tripping over each other. To be clear; anything is a fair target bearing in mind that the Dwarves are at the Tump and the Elves at Tor Thana

Sub-commander Carl von Clausewitz will be co-ordinating the search for the crown. Any small scale battles you fight please reference that he has sent you there following up on a pigeon sent by him that he heard a rumour as the the crowns whereabouts.

I will remain in the defence of Egondorf and assess the position from here, I will also be negotiating with the High Elves. If anyone wishes input into this (which would be beneficial to judge the mood) please check the thread.


Fluff for Week 4-

Keep mentioning Helstroms 4th and the Hunters of Sigmar in all posts.

We are taking control of the rivers, it may be that the HE will be helping us with this but that is still in negotiation. Again maybe some battles (against Druchii, TK, greenskins etc) coul mention how the Stirland river patrol and gunners of Nuln sunk their ship and we are doing the mop up job.

We want our people back- any fights against Druchii mention how we are rescuing slaves from Egondorf.

We are allied to the Bretonians and will be setting up dual fiefdoms with them in the fullness of time.

There are other race related fluff threads feel free to include these things.


Your thoughts?

To work men, another week like last week from us and we will be in a very strong position, but we need to be higher than 4th place, only the top 3 get medals!

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Demonslayer on July 19, 2007, 10:00:52 AM
Hmm. I can only play against Skaven, Vampire Counts, Hordes of Chaos, High Elves and Lizardmen. That's it. Any ideas what I could do for the fluff? I hear a lot of talk abut options with the Druchii, Khemri and greenskins, but I won't get to see those.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 19, 2007, 10:30:11 AM
Here are just a few thoughts;

Skaven: They are trying to assasinate the witch Hunter (whose name escapes me but if you click in Egondorf on the map it says it) they are also trying to assasinate Warrior Priests, it could be you caught them trying to do it and suddenly they emerged from their tunnels to attack. They are also keen we get the crown because they want to see Karl Franz go mad so there may be some fluff there that you find a map of the location on them and pass it to Clausewitz.

VC- They are still trying to have an established and recognised natios, possibly some fluff there but it is a bit weak. They also tried to attack the Tower of Vigilance (a location we do not want them to get) could be some good battles there. Possibly a good grudge match when you recognise that some of the zombies raised are waering the uniforms of Empire soldiers. The priests of Morr will not tolerate this, possibly lend some strength to the witch hunters (would be nice to have them as a hero choice).

Hordes of Chaos- This is one of the main reasons we have the hunters of Sigmar, take them as all your knightly orders. Add to the fluff about their passion of wiping out chaos wherever it lies. Also maybe suggest that as they die the land starts to seem less barren and there is the signs of life returning to the Hills.

High Elves- When they first approached us they were arrogant and dismissive, we subsequently learnt from a druchii we tortured questioned that they are trying to settle in our lands. Diplomatic discussions are underway but until they have been resolved (it will be this week) they are an invading force bent on taking Tor Thana and we are not to get in their way.

Lizardmen- Harder one here, but let me see... beasts the size of men? Surely there may be some chaos taint here! They would also fit in nicely with our plans to take over the rivers, they are the only ones who can put up reasonable opposition (being aquatic and all) maybe include streams (tributaries) on the battle map, bearing in mind this is a huge advantage to them so think about the points or terrain features you should be allowed.

Just initial thoughts but I hope it helps

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 24, 2007, 01:55:58 PM
So, the agreement is in place with the Asur. They will be offering us support as our allies helping to defend the rivers and waterways. If any of your fluff could reflect this it would be greatly appreciated.

Also there have been a 100 strong detachment of Sea Guard billeted at Egondorf, some are dedicated to training our huntsmen (hint- longbows and higher BS please), some are also forming part of my personal retinue fighting alongside the Solandiers (along with a small Sylvaninan mercenary force I seem to have inherited also), again mentions of this would be good.

For those who have not seen our part of the bargain it is merely that we help in the battle to take Tor Thana. Contrary to initial reports of an Elven land grab (unpractical and unlikely) it would more focus around the Asur setting up an 'embassy' in Tor Thana. This would have many benefits for us, the ability to have more direct relations with our long time allies, possible consultation on magical training and tuition, the clearing of the taint on an area that was uninhabitable by us and the destruction of evil in the area.

What do we need to do? Mention them clearing the beasts from the forest (along with the Hunter of Sigmar of course), when you are fighting against the Druchii maybe add something in the fluff that they were headed to resupply their forces at tor thana and that you cut their supply line (along with mentioning the recapturing of the slaves taken from Egondorf).

I know there are still some feelings against the Asur after the way we were treated at the start of this campaign but we really are stronger with them and a lot of the issues have sprung from ignorance of the others needs, by working together we can drive out the evil and then get back to getting our own house in order.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 26, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
New orders for week 5 sir?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 27, 2007, 08:23:05 AM
Ok, sorry it is so late, what with work and quitting smoking I think I am going to go insane. Or maybe already have done this is my plan, thoughts quickly please as we need to implement.

Using KF as our guidance we need to remember our loyalty to Sigmar (I will come to armies of other gods later). To this end all Sigmarite armies are to march on Marchens Henge and clear this area of any taint of evil the arch Lectors will then perform ceremonies of re-concecration this will become a shining beacon both to Sigmar and the Empire.

Armies of Ulruc, concentrate on securing the roads and building the fortifications (this is being noted in GW fluff).

Armies of Taal, clearing the forests around the Henge. You along with the hunters of Sigmar are to ensure that the priests are not disturbed during their rites.

Armies of Morr & Reynald, Tor Thana. Assist our high elf allies in destroying the Druchii and concecrating the dead so as the forces of undead will not be able to rise again there.

I realise I am asking for several missions to be completed in 1 week but we need to be ambitious. If we all mention what the other armies are doing whilst trying to achieve the overall goal I think we will get away with it (it fits so well with the week 4 dispatches and leaves us in a strong position tactically in the region).

Ongoing Fluff goals-

Mention General Helstrom and Helstroms 4th
Refer to the Hunters of Sigmar
Any battle against druchii refer to the release of human slaves.
We are allied to Brettonia and The Asur
The establishment of an Asur embassy at Tor Thana


and on a personal level.. one army has dragged me from 1st in week 2 to about 3000000th now, it is the Vampires of Count Olaf, if anyone beats a vamp army mention how it will hurt count Olaf (and feel free to ignore this one but once again it is the lack of nicotine in my system that mekes me bitter)

Fight well for the Empire, for Karl Franz and to wipe the smug grin off the Dwarves faces!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 27, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
Good plan(s) Veldemere.

I have a VC opponent that I will be able to play a couple of games against.  I'll try and mention something about Count Olaf. (Any fluff on him?)

The finishing line is almost in sight folks.  Lets make a big effort to get that 3rd place.

I made a suggestion for this week.  Here..
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=17460.0 (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=17460.0)
Its not official policy, but if you like the idea please go ahead.  I think it meshes well with our Marchen's Henge plan.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 27, 2007, 08:48:52 AM
Quite agree with your post Clause, I think the support of Luthor Huss is bourne out in the re-dedication of the Henge to Sigmar, lets do both.

I will try to find fluff on Olaf.

For reference some of our groups battles as posted by Olaf on Warseer;

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89456 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89456)

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81505 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81505) Look at second report not first.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91967 (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91967) I would have had it if it wasn't for that pesky giant!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 27, 2007, 12:56:34 PM
Cheers Veldemere, I believe Wissenlander has encouraged our US counterparts to to a bit of praying too.

I read Olaf's batreps.  He seems to be a good player, I can see why you have had problems.  But I must say that the scenarios were horrible for you.  Two battles with dwarf guns to one side and VC blocks to the other.  :eusa_sick:

Empire suffers greatly when there is a lack of room for maneuvre. We need those flank charges etc to offset our generally rubbish fighting ability.  Your knights always seemed to be funnelled into an area where your opponents could limit their options and deal with them.  This is, of course, worse when you deploy across a short edge of the board.

I also have a great dislike for terror.  It only works against some armies, so its purely random if it can work at all.  Then if you are susceptible to terror there isn't much you can do about it but hope the dice are kind.  And if they are not (as they were not in your third game there) it can be totally game altering.  A recent proliferation of dragons at my local store has forced me to take the Imperial Banner regularly, or risk loosing a game based on 1 or two bad dice rolls. :eusa_wall:

Feel free to PM me before your next game if you wish to talk tactics / army comp etc.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Demonslayer on July 27, 2007, 01:45:58 PM
Provided I get in a game this week, you have my sword against this foul Undead abomination named "Olaf" :icon_twisted:.

IF the bounty on his head is high enough...
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Karl van Drak on July 27, 2007, 03:05:32 PM
Try Carpe Noctem (vampire counts forums) for any Olaf stuff as he, like myself, is quite a regular on there.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 28, 2007, 09:37:01 PM
Thanks Karl

If you are able to inform him that there is a price on his head in the Empire. Any information leading to the capture of this vile enemy of the Empire will be well rewarded. I have some priests wishing to ask him some questions.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: FatOlaf on July 29, 2007, 03:01:00 PM
Quote from: Veldemere on July 28, 2007, 09:37:01 PM
Thanks Karl

If you are able to inform him that there is a price on his head in the Empire. Any information leading to the capture of this vile enemy of the Empire will be well rewarded. I have some priests wishing to ask him some questions.

They can ask as many questions as they like, I like my cattle to have their 'fun'!
Olaf is amused by the humans and their attempts at tactics, he will wait for this treasure hunt to end before starting the machinations of his master plan. The Count has been travelling the Old world for many a year now, slowly adding the missing pieces to his Horde. Soon the puzzle will be complete and the Empire will witness a force not seen since the times of Manfred.   :icon_evil:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Ostermarker on July 29, 2007, 03:51:11 PM
Quote from: FatOlaf on July 29, 2007, 03:01:00 PM
Soon the puzzle will be complete and the Empire will witness a force not seen since the times of Manfred.   :icon_evil:

And we all know how that ended.

Or do we?
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 29, 2007, 10:09:44 PM
Well, the Gaming Club Network have proved themselves absolutely invaluable for it's members, having released their Nemesis Crown Campaign pack... last Thursday.
Page one is usual guff about the Barren Hills.
Page two is the start of the landmarks...
The Giant’s Tump - A truncated mountain / plateau
Long rumoured to be the home of a giants, local residents of the area surrounding the Tump steer well clear of it even keeping their herds of the slopes, as tales of thunderous foot step s being heard and … have made this place only visited by the brave and foolish. Even the rumours of gold and treasure hidden away on top of the mound in the Giants hidden treasure trove doesn’t make this a place eager to be visited.

That is until now. Unusually high numbers of Ogre Warband have been sighted heading toward the Tump. For what reason no one has asked (or those that have, have been invited for lunch, never to been seen again). Could the rumours that The Tump is the last out post of the Sky Titans be drawing those Ogres eager for a scrap of old? Could the gold rumoured to be in the hidden treasure trove be the reason Greasus has sent his troops? Or could the Hold be the hiding place for something more valuable, hidden for years, and the reason that those local to The Tump are considered to be mad by their kin.

Races
The rumours of a giant have drawn the Ogre Kingdoms to this area. Along with these foes the stalwart Dwarfs have sent a number of expeditions, primarily to investigate the potential mineral veins, along with the number of caves and barrows that criss-crossing the area that could prove the hiding place for the Crown. Also of concern to the Dwarfs are the rumours of sightings of their insidious cousins from “Zharr Naggrund”

The Ruins of Tor Thana - Haunted Elven ruins
Long have the Ruins of Tor Thana dominated the skyline of the barren hills. Myth and Legend have long since taken the names of the builders or indeed the purpose of the tower into obscurity.
Yet the ruins have become the finishing line for a deadly race. From across the oceans the High Elves and the Deadly cousins of Naggaroth are both heading for the same destination. The reasoning behind this move is unknown but both races are calling upon allies to aid them.
The high elves have a long memory, and emissaries have been sent to their rustic cousins. The Dark elves have enlisted the aid of the evil vampire counts, knowing that although they cannot be trusted, they can be relied upon to fall upon any high elves in their path.

Races
All three Elven races and Vampire Counts are headed for the ruins. The ruins contain an ancient statue that resonates with mystical power. The effects of this are unknown to all but the most powerful practitioner of the arcane arts. Tentative alliances have been drawn up between the Dark Elves and Vampire Counts, and similarly with the High Elves and Wood Elves. How long these alliances hold in the heat of battle remain to be seen.

Scenarios
A four way border patrol game would give lots of opportunity for alliances, intrigue, betrayal and a glorious victory for one of the races. The one holding the centre of the ruins at the end takes all.
Use Mordheim scenario 7: Hidden treasure, then scenario 1 defend the find to represent some advance forces seeking out the treasure contained in the ruins.
In a fantasy battle game you could use a terrain piece at the centre as the objective and award 400 VPs for the army with the most Unit strength within 12” at the end of the game (but award no VPs for table quarters). You may choose to give wizards an extra power and dispel dice when they are in the ruins.

Prince Josiah looked over at the crew of the warship. The cold wind pinched at his cheeks as he pondered the mission the court had given this expedition. Carelessly fingering the hilt of his ancient blade he secretly welcomed the reports that the Black Arks of Naggaroth had been sighted in these waters. If ever there was a worthwhile reason to give up ones life, slaying Dark Elves was one of them. He knew and resented the fact that the Wood Elves had been asked for aid. Josiah was sure that the prize would be his, and the influence at court the prize would bring with it would be useful. The prince sighed and went back to penning the missive persuading those who would decide that he was the best choice for leading the force into battle.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 29, 2007, 10:10:27 PM
Egondorf - A village
What can one say about this Sigmar forsaken town, Situated on the Main Altdorf to Talabheim Road, it has been the stop over from main a traveller along with numerous bandits and cut throats who have sued its access to the road to great effect in both pursuit of their “trade” and evasion from justice.
This “haven” with in the Forrest north of the Barren Hills region is also surround by those who dwell in the Dark side of the Great forest and this Order has had many operative investigating the Town as to reports of Cults of followers of the unmentionable gods, The fortifications of the town have been improved over the years hand with the recent incursion of Orc and Goblins in the surrounding forests, this Cleric respectfully encourages that those able to investigate the rumours of Standing stones and occult altar being erected with in the town ,to do so as swiftly as possible.

Races
With so many hiding places in the town Chaos cultist have made inroad into every aspect of the towns life. This and the now constant sighting of Orcs, Goblins, Beastmen and even the Tree folk of the Elven race. Egondorf is open to Skirmish and investigation of teams of most races of the WFB.
Why are the totems there, what is the reason behind the sudden disappearance of the Brugemeister and his Wife (and reputed Mistress)

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on July 29, 2007, 10:10:58 PM
I've decided that copying it all here is just a waste of all your time. Needless to say, I think I've left you with enough of an impression that this could have been useful if they had only bothered to get it out on time.

Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Kaihlik on July 29, 2007, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: clausewitz on July 27, 2007, 12:56:34 PM
A recent proliferation of dragons at my local store has forced me to take the Imperial Banner regularly, or risk loosing a game based on 1 or two bad dice rolls. :eusa_wall:
Please I would hardly call my Dragon a proliferation (for the record I am the only player in our store that uses a Dragon on anything like a regular bases and only because he is my character for the Nemesis Crown). As always you overestimate the power of terror, even when you didn't take the imperial banner I don't think you failed a single terror test and that game was a massicare in your favour. You'll be happy to know that Peter 1 shotted my Dragon on Saturday and that was After 1 shotting my Hydra the turn before (I really really hate Dwarfs).
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 29, 2007, 11:46:06 PM
Kaihlik... it is a proliferation of Dragons... you can't have just one I killed it twice already, and if Peter killed it too then thats a least four dragons  :-P

And terror has lost me a game (versus greg's ogres, his tyrant with terror caused my generals untouched sword unit to flee in my turn and get chased from the board in his, that lost me the game).

Its not the power of terror, its the randomness.  Unless you are immune you could lose your most important/expensive unit just for something being nearby.  Most games it does nothing, then a bad roll comes along and wrecks your game plan.

And why would I be happy that Peter beat you again?  I dislike playing dwarfs as much as you!  I just don't loose to Peter all the time  :wink:
(P.S. Is he suddenly playing a master engineer now?)

Anyway we are way off topic here... this is a thread for Empire generals to discuss strategy.  I'll get a bad reputation chatting with Druchii!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 30, 2007, 06:30:06 PM
Clausewitz

I understand your hatred of playing against powergamers (the vast proliferation of dragons until they become commonplace) but lets not let this become bitter and personal. Just continue to beat him on the field of battle.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on July 30, 2007, 07:42:27 PM
Sorry Veldemere, Kaihlik and I go to the same store to play.  We are actually on good terms, just some friendly rivalry and banter.  I had worried that this wouldn't be obvious to people that don't know us though.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on July 30, 2007, 08:46:06 PM
That is ok then. Maybe it is similar to my relationship with fatolaf (count Olaf), a regular opponent whom, within the game you wish you were the only one who could defeat them, but things do not always go your way! Sadly count Olaf is not only a good player but sadly very lucky as well!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: FatOlaf on August 01, 2007, 12:51:36 PM
Quote from: Veldemere on July 30, 2007, 08:46:06 PM
That is ok then. Maybe it is similar to my relationship with fatolaf (count Olaf), a regular opponent whom, within the game you wish you were the only one who could defeat them, but things do not always go your way! Sadly count Olaf is not only a good player but sadly very lucky as well!

Count Olaf is pleased the human admires his tactics but displeased at the term 'lucky', for this insult, the human they call Veldemere will be at the mercy of the Great Count himself!  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on August 02, 2007, 04:10:26 AM
I'm Third!  :ph34r:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on August 02, 2007, 04:12:24 AM
Quote from: Patch on August 02, 2007, 04:10:26 AM
I'm Third!  :ph34r:

Now I'm 176th. Natural Justice has returned!  :biggriin:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: clausewitz on August 02, 2007, 11:30:34 AM
Quote
I'm Third!
Huzzah, congratulations.
Quote
Now I'm 176th. Natural Justice has returned!
How did you manage to drop 173 places in two minutes!?!
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Patch on August 03, 2007, 04:05:07 AM
I had two massacred! results from a couple of 500 point border patrol games on Thursday.  :icon_redface:

Man, it really effects your result. :icon_eek:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on August 03, 2007, 06:01:56 PM
Sorry there have been no orders for the last week, but you all know what you are doing, carry on the previous fluff, there is now a tacit alliance with the Dwarves (remember we signed with the Brets first), we just need to get those results and try to finish top 4 overall, that way we may get some of the things we want. Keep reporting looking for the crown, it must be destroyed.

One last push.
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Tostig on August 07, 2007, 09:30:59 AM
I'll try and get in one more game before the campaign end. I apologise for have disappeared these last few weeks, there's no internets on a boat in the middle of the Celtic sea, and right now I'm staying at my girlfriends. Surprisingly enough there isn't much gaming there either  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: The Barren Hills- UK-Regional Organisation
Post by: Veldemere on August 07, 2007, 11:47:20 PM
Not the kind of gaming that will earn you nemesis points at least eh Tostig We have missed you fella, good to see you back.

Well that also looks like the end and, if I may say, a piss poor showing in the last week (mainly by me I'm sure) but we have been riding high in the Barren Hills up to now so I would be disappointed if we lose it. We may have to accept a few settlements we may not have wanted initially but all is not lost. Lets wait for the result and hope we have left this hole in a better state than we found it in.

For the Empire!