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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: 2000 Points
« Last post by Voltan Ignatio on Today at 02:57:44 AM »
Hello!

Few bits of feedback / suggestions

Ambushing road wardens are excellent, for baggage trains, rear charges, war machine hunting- and just keeping opponent on edge
Due new parry rule, you don't need to pay for FPA if you are on foot - hvy armour and shield is the same save
I would definitely put the griffon banner block as swords and shields, and put the halberds into detachments, or at least give your CR blocks shields so you can use parry if you need. Having horde on the troops too might mean taking a few more bodies to maintain the 3 ranks.
Love the detachments (great for covering flanks to preserve that delicious rank bonus)
WW Demi's are fun, I find the shield much better for protecting the demigryph who's the real dmg dealer but that's to taste, 4 is a mighty strong jnit
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: 2000 Points
« Last post by Warlord on Today at 12:07:25 AM »
Use the Renegade Crowns list for Remans.
I have been building a list like that myself it works really well.
I will share later.

Also Hi Dendo! Welcome back!
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: 2000 Points
« Last post by Footpatrol2 on November 07, 2025, 09:16:57 PM »
Your probably gunna want to take a wizard. It could be a lvl 1. Purely for the dispel attempts so you don't just get dominated in the magic phase. You could drop a 10 man state unit and fit it in. The 10 man state troops won't do much anyway.
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: 2000 Points
« Last post by Dendo_Star on November 07, 2025, 08:02:01 PM »
Pardon, some changes because I misinterpreted the new rules about rank bonus.

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Donnerhertz [2000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Empire of Man, Open War
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++ Characters [520 pts] ++

General of the Empire [192 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Light armour
- Shield
- General
- On foot
- Giant Blade
- Armour of Destiny

Captain of the Empire [188 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Battle Standard Bearer [Imperial Banner]
- On foot
- Sword of Might
- The White Cloak

Captain of the Empire [87 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Lance
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Pegasus

Empire Engineer [53 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Repeater pistol
- On foot

++ Core Units [689 pts] ++

24 Veteran State Troops [257 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Halberds
- Light armour
- Veteran Sergeant (champion)
- Standard bearer [Griffon Standard]
- Musician

24 Veteran State Troops [232 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Halberds
- Light armour
- Veteran Sergeant (champion)
- Standard bearer [War Banner]
- Musician

5 Empire Archers [40 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Warbows
- Fire & Flee
- Detachment

5 Empire Archers [40 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Warbows
- Fire & Flee
- Detachment

10 State Troops [60 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Light armour
- Shields
- Detachment

10 State Troops [60 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Light armour
- Shields

++ Special Units [671 pts] ++

Great Cannon [125 pts]
- Great cannon
- Hand weapons

5 Empire Road Wardens [119 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Brace of pistols
- Heavy armour
- Feigned Flight
- Vanguard
- Captain (champion) [Repeater pistol]
- Musician

5 Empire Road Wardens [124 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Brace of pistols
- Heavy armour
- Feigned Flight
- Scouts
- Captain (champion) [Repeater pistol]
- Musician

4 Demigryph Knights of the White Wolf [303 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Wolf hammers
- Shields
- Full plate armour
- Barding
- Standard bearer [Icon of Morr]
- Musician

++ Rare Units [120 pts] ++

Helblaster Volley Gun [120 pts]
- Helblaster Volley Gun
- Hand weapons

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Created with "Old World Builder"

[https://old-world-builder.com]
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The Brush and Palette / Hirschholz Army
« Last post by DeerBoi:3 on November 07, 2025, 02:25:34 PM »
It is insane to me that a Forum that is 3 years my senior is still active ! I Have lurked on here for about a month , mostly poking through the beautiful miniatures other's have posted . I remember looking at the Empire stuff as a kiddo to young to do much but look at the pretty box covers and ogle my dad's minis , and it is great to see them again with The Old World coming back . It is amazing to see the game my dad & his friends talked about in purely the past tense back in the spotlight (Even if with some new coats of paint and a rules upadate  :-P ) .

Anywho , I am working on an Empire force for my homebrew city-state/Principality Hirschholz  :biggriin:

So far I have a Necromancer & Familiar painted , and ~1400 points of very WIP everything else an army needs from a steam tank to a unit of halfling spearmen (using the BloodBowl team & a lot of kit bashing) that I will finish eventually , Promise!  :engel:

Here is the links to my Imgur posts  :smile2:
https://imgur.com/gallery/necromancer-d-Ji5d2qt
&
https://imgur.com/gallery/necromancers-familiar-d-4FCKwSM
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / 2000 Points
« Last post by Dendo_Star on November 07, 2025, 01:24:48 PM »
Reman Legions without much artillery, couldn't get it to fit. Also mortars and rockets are horribly nerfed. Dang foot troops are so overcosted too. And poor armour saves for characters! Okay, I'll try to stop complaining now.

This is preliminary, as I am not sure what points I'll be playing at normally.

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Donnerhertz [2000 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Empire of Man, Open War
===

++ Characters [566 pts] ++

General of the Empire, Donnerhertz [192 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Light armour
- Shield
- General
- On foot
- Giant Blade
- Armour of Destiny

Captain of the Empire [188 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Battle Standard Bearer [Imperial Banner]
- On foot
- The White Cloak
- Sword of Might

Captain of the Empire [133 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Pegasus
- Sword of Might
- Talisman of Protection

Empire Engineer [53 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Repeater pistol
- On foot

++ Core Units [769 pts] ++

29 Veteran State Troops [297 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Halberds
- Light armour
- Veteran Sergeant (champion)
- Standard bearer [Griffon Standard]
- Musician

10 State Troops [60 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Light armour
- Shields
- Detachment

10 State Troops [60 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Light armour
- Shields
- Detachment

5 Empire Archers [40 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Warbows
- Fire & Flee
- Detachment

5 Empire Archers [40 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Warbows
- Fire & Flee

29 Veteran State Troops [272 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Halberds
- Light armour
- Veteran Sergeant (champion)
- Standard bearer [War Banner]
- Musician

++ Special Units [665 pts] ++

Great Cannon [135 pts]
- Great cannon
- Hand weapons
- Veteran

4 Demigryph Knights of the White Wolf [303 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Wolf hammers
- Shields
- Full plate armour
- Barding
- Standard bearer [Icon of Morr]
- Musician

5 Empire Road Wardens [116 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Brace of pistols
- Heavy armour
- Feigned Flight
- Scouts
- Musician

5 Empire Road Wardens [111 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Brace of pistols
- Heavy armour
- Feigned Flight
- Vanguard
- Musician

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Created with "Old World Builder"

[https://old-world-builder.com]
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: 2000 point list for saturday
« Last post by Dendo_Star on November 07, 2025, 01:06:06 PM »
How did your missile troops perform?

Also, may I ask why no detachments?
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: My Renegade Crowns army is embarking in an expedition
« Last post by OMoran on November 06, 2025, 11:08:34 AM »
Quote from: Griefbringer on November 03, 2025, 04:37:15 PM
Did your Falcon-horn get to do anything? At least the shooty dwarves do not sound very flier-heavy.

Sounds like the beastman list was quite heavy in shamans. What else did it contain and how did they end spanking you, besides the magic?

As for your updated list idea, the big block of dwarves looks quite tough, but expensive in points (by human standards at least).

the falcon-horn reduced the charge range of a pegasus unit and a couple flying characters against bretonnia, giving me one more turn of shooting. It also blocked for 1 turn a unit of harpies and the flying monster blob with 6 shamans of the beasmen.

Those dwarfs are costly, but they can easily work as a second unit of veterans, the rune of hesitation is quite strong.
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Square based comp.
« Last post by Footpatrol2 on November 05, 2025, 11:14:22 PM »
Ok so square based comp, allows us to take 2400 points for a grand army. You can also think about this like a 20% reduction on all point values this is to include magic items.

So this gives us roughly 5 point state troops we've been asking for. Also do to the format, double steam tank builds. Any thoughts on this new comp system?
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The Brush and Palette / Re: Solland Army
« Last post by Rowsdower on November 05, 2025, 12:58:04 PM »
Great job on the griffon
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