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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #475 on: March 26, 2014, 06:54:32 PM »
really nice sir  :::cheers:::
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #476 on: March 26, 2014, 08:09:52 PM »
Thanks, Warhammer Weib, you are doing fine too. :wink:

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not a fan of the freehand pistols on the other cloak/jacket...  but this!!!   :::cheers:::
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #477 on: March 26, 2014, 09:55:30 PM »
Thanx, guys. It's the premiere of my newest tool: the pin pen.

@Henerius: so the freehand pistols look that bad, huh? I don't like them that much either, I might go and rework tthe design, it should look more stylish and less cartoony.
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #478 on: March 28, 2014, 06:52:42 PM »
Don't rework it on my account. It is brilliantly done, it's just not my taste so I am not a fan. That's all.

The brown jacket gives me a hint, a feeling .. like hussar or east european soldier jacket. The design and simplicity sends out it is functional, cut and tailored to last and protect its wearer.  The brown cape gives me the same feel about it. The jacket with backprint reminds me of modern jackets it looks very .. american and not in the sence of classy. Like a person wearing a jacket of a university he never went to or a wannabee that never was in the pistol corps but wants to look like one  at the most he looks like a civilian with a gun.... :closed-eyes:

Pistoliers, musketeers, swordsmen, halberdeers, pikemen, etc, are not identified by the print on their jackets... they are identified by their weapons.  The banner of a unit could keep the weapon that is the main tool of the unit.. but a jacket of a pistolier with pistols on it like that looks a bit awkward to me.  :icon_rolleyes:

As I said a matter of taste, nothing more.  :smile2:

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #479 on: March 29, 2014, 10:35:18 AM »
Well, you have certainly put more thought into it than I have myself. My hat off to you , sir. Those are all valid and well elaborated points that deserve to be considered with care.
Truth is, the cape with the emblem was created with only the intention to replace the absence of the banner and to give the unit some heraldry and colors. 
The crossed pistols are the most common symbol of the pistolkorps, as is depicted in the heraldry book, but like you said, the cape, which is meant only to protect and hide the soldier from the enemy's eyes, isn't the very likely place to put heraldry on.
For the  cape of the commander  I made some research first and like you  noticed with a keen eye, the design on the back was indeed influenced by the hystoric reference, namely the designs of the napoleonic uniforms, and that's why it looks more realistic and not wannabee at all. And you are correct in prefering the classy over the modern, which is also my first choice.
I will redesign the cape, probably erase the emblem and leave only the empire cross at the bottom. Thanks for the critics, it's been highly constructive. :::cheers:::
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #480 on: March 29, 2014, 03:50:40 PM »
I gotta say, I really like the pistol design - don't get rid of it! As his signature says, don't listen to the evil Henerius! :)

I also think the coat design is fantastic, too - is that purely done with paint, or is the cape actually sculpted as a coat?
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #481 on: March 30, 2014, 12:38:59 AM »
but truth is that Henerius is more than right




A banner of Infantry is 3 by 3 cm, banner of a knight unit is wrapped around the pole and is 6cm long? I don't see why a troop of pistoliers can't have a guidon??  :closed-eyes:  Game requirements is one thing, fun in doing is more then the one. 

The back of that jacket is? 1,5 by 1,5 cm or 1,5 by 2 cm?  You can give your pistolier troop a guidon and paint the crossed pistols on it and a troop number Dariusz  :::cheers::: :::cheers:::  and enjoy every moment of doing it  :biggriin: ... it's no banner it's a guidon  :ph34r: doesn't even count as one  :biggriin:


Troop with guidon

Troop with regimental banner.


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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #482 on: March 30, 2014, 09:29:53 AM »
Great army. I love them all :eusa_clap:

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #483 on: April 02, 2014, 11:51:11 AM »
Thanx, Liucheng  :::cheers:::

I gotta say, I really like the pistol design - don't get rid of it! As his signature says, don't listen to the evil Henerius! :)

I also think the coat design is fantastic, too - is that purely done with paint, or is the cape actually sculpted as a coat?

Hm, first I'll try to redesign the emblem to make it look more like a stylized decoration and less a picture, because Henerius does have  point here.
The coat design relies partly on the sculpted parts, but mostly it's been painted, but you would have to see it in person to realy distinguish one from another, that is, if you don't posess this certain set.

A banner of Infantry is 3 by 3 cm, banner of a knight unit is wrapped around the pole and is 6cm long? I don't see why a troop of pistoliers can't have a guidon??  :closed-eyes:  Game requirements is one thing, fun in doing is more then the one. 

If I wanted a banner I would give them one, since the rules are secondary to me, because I don't play anymore. But I wanted the unit to have the maxiumum of fighting figures, being only 5 strong. So I left out the musician and eventually the banner. I think banners and musiciands fit in larger than 5 units, fluff wise. 5 is a more a scout formation than anything else.  :wink:

But I have unit just like your own waiting on the shelf to be taken in hands. That one will have either a musician or a banner.

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #484 on: April 02, 2014, 12:25:09 PM »
I have almost finished work on the riders, minus minor corrections and that damn cloak, now I'm painting horses.


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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #485 on: April 02, 2014, 01:51:14 PM »
that outrider looks fabulous, I may have to copy. steveb

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #486 on: April 02, 2014, 04:39:15 PM »
Love the pistol-sword! And the outriders  :-D
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #487 on: April 07, 2014, 09:36:34 PM »
thanx.

Meanwhile, while horses are getting their final look, let's have a look at my attempt at the OSL technique. This is going to be the base for a very nasty alien monster( which I haven't finished yet)  and it depicts the wounded space marine, who has triggered the emergency beacon for the rescue mission( the green light).

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Outriders wip
« Reply #488 on: April 08, 2014, 02:07:23 PM »
that outrider looks fabulous, I may have to copy. steveb

I second steveb.  Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ OSL intermezzo
« Reply #489 on: April 08, 2014, 04:27:35 PM »
Great OSL work, Darius! I love it!  :eusa_clap:

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Front rank figurines compare to GW
« Reply #490 on: September 18, 2014, 11:13:44 AM »
Today the mailman made my day. The Front rank figurines, that I was wanting to have for so long,  are finally here. I intend to use them as greatswords. Here are some comparison pics with my GW figs.








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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Front rank figurines
« Reply #491 on: September 18, 2014, 12:58:35 PM »
They compare very favorably.  Just a bit smaller than GW but they will blend in perfectly.
Looking forward to seeing them finished!
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Front rank figurines
« Reply #492 on: September 18, 2014, 05:18:28 PM »
I bought enough of them to make them full unit. With a couple of GW comand fings - 30,
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Front rank figurines
« Reply #493 on: September 20, 2014, 06:21:27 PM »
Long summer vacation have set me off the current painting project almost before I could finish it properly. So here's a pic of almost finished horses.

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Finishing outrieders
« Reply #494 on: September 20, 2014, 06:51:45 PM »
wow those look great  :::cheers:::
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Finishing outriders
« Reply #495 on: September 21, 2014, 09:26:32 AM »
Love the dappled horses, that is so hard to do well. :eusa_clap:

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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Finishing outriders
« Reply #496 on: September 21, 2014, 01:32:57 PM »
Love the dappled horses, that is so hard to do well. :eusa_clap:

Grey Shire dapple horses, to be more speciffic, because they are bigger than other empire horses.
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Finishing outriders
« Reply #497 on: September 24, 2014, 11:44:47 AM »
wip close ups




Nuln outriders on Shire ponies  :engel:



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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Nuln outriders finished
« Reply #498 on: September 24, 2014, 12:26:49 PM »
awesome man ,

need a close up , cant quite make out detail
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Re: Empire vs. Hordes of chaos/ Nuln outriders finished
« Reply #499 on: September 24, 2014, 12:36:16 PM »
Yeah, np, after I do some more painting, I jsut discovered I forgot to paint the horsehoes.
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