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Title: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on April 10, 2009, 05:59:23 PM
Having decided on a whim to make a fantasy stompa this is my progress after an hour. Current cost: Nothing, stole it all from my fathers workbox, hit a snag seeing as how I have no screws so can't properly secure the leg system. (which i'm quite proud of by the way.) I'm looking for ideas for arms and equipment, most of the body will be covered in greenstuff as wood. Should I cut out the back and put a goblin "pilot" in? Should I also put one in the "exhast", it just occured to me that a clockwork monstrosity wouldn't have a need for exhaust.  :blush: Looks quite funky though.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100579.jpg)

WIP

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300948.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300947.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300947-1.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 10, 2009, 06:05:43 PM
You're nuts. I suggest a gatling bolt thrower for giggles myself.

Have at least one of the two arms be melee orientated, and I'd suggest using a chain with a large ball on the end. With spikes.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Mogsam on April 10, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
I did pick out some chains in case, I figure they should both be combat orientated. The legs are some wierd bolt thing that can expand so when i've settled on using them they will fit in nicely. It really needs the orc teeth to make it less like a disney film character really lol.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 10, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
Well, first off, have you seen this http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=38952 ? I hope so. Maybe something that guy did can help inspire you.

I do think considering your army, it should have some form of ranged weapon. Perhaps not particularly potent, as it will be mainly melee, but say a single bolt thrower, slightly lower powered (say strength 5 or 4), with a shorter range? Your entire army is opponents permission, so why not.  :icon_mrgreen:

Also, it must have a 3+ armour save. No more, no less!
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Mogsam on April 10, 2009, 06:54:08 PM
That guys far more talented than me! Plus mines actually not that big, it's fantasy afterall.

So more like this sorta thing? Like a one shot belly cannon? 3+ seems fair, it'd have a fair amount of wounds, i'd give it the Chariot rule of auto die strength 7 but my most common opponant is Empire so it'd be pointless to even use it.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300947-2.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 10, 2009, 06:57:45 PM
I wouldn't make it one shot. I also disagree with you even thinking of the chariot rule of autoexploding. I would give it impact hits. Either d3 or d6, but not too many attacks (4?).

A cannon could work, though what you've drawn seems more like a camera  :icon_wink:

Having a pilot at the top reminds me so much of Labyrinth. I loved that clockwork giant with the crazy goblin in it.

Am I the only one looking at your gobbo/dwarf threads?  :engel:
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: wissenlander on April 10, 2009, 07:14:52 PM
You could have a full goblin team crawling all over it, making repairs.  That would look kind of cool, I think.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Shadoweyed on April 10, 2009, 07:15:50 PM
I could see you running much like a Steam Tank. Maybe change the grinding in CC to the arms swinging?

-Shadoweyed
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Mogsam on April 10, 2009, 07:55:01 PM
This looks so fantastically demented, I love it. The belly hole look right? That would be where the kannon goes.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300950.jpg)

A scale shot, just to show how big it is, it's quite alot bigger than I thought it would be!

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300949.jpg)

Crew/boiler? compartment, my hands there because clear body + clear table + clear compartment = no photo.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/S8300951.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 10, 2009, 08:07:56 PM
That's one scary hand.

The Jaw needs something else... maybe needs to be larger/more pronounced. Also, give it hilariously overstated eyebrows.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: wissenlander on April 10, 2009, 08:55:34 PM
Yes, pointed down.  It's looking really good.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Henerius on April 10, 2009, 09:00:50 PM
 :icon_eek:     ...... :unsure: ke (first shock)

ahum.

Does it have the same hight as a Giant?  hmmmm

mechanical giant? as a sort of pumpwagon like construction? (the pumpwagon crew could be a great propulsion system in the body of the stompa )

succes with the project  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Parka on April 10, 2009, 10:21:02 PM
That reminds me of the clockwork gnome army idea I worked on for a while.

I like it Stomp Stomp!  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input.
Post by: Mogsam on April 14, 2009, 01:10:56 PM
Thanks for the comments guys.

Big enough jaw now?  :happy: The log hanging from the chain will be made bigger with GS as will the "armour" wooden plateing. The "ears" will one day have screw heads comming out, although the screws I have on call are too fat, it would take ages to cut through them. I'm considering the "eyebrows" but they would be hard to attach, the plastic doesn't like sticking very much, it's very fragile. I'm in love with his legs, those expanding things are really hydrolicish! The feet will have clawlike toes to ensure kicking death!

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100551.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100552.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100553.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 14, 2009, 01:18:40 PM
Why does it have two jaws?  :icon_surprised:
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 14, 2009, 01:24:17 PM
Its the first bit of armour I put on it, otherwise it litterally looks like a deodrant lid with a head... I could move it down and right and mimic it on the otherside as some sort of aesthetics?

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 14, 2009, 01:25:05 PM
The one attached to the body is the odd one, the one on the lid is fine.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: wissenlander on April 14, 2009, 01:28:34 PM
To break up the monotany on the body (I know you said you would do greenstuffing, but just an added bit) perhaps you could try putting some orc/gobbo shields around it as makeshift armor?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 14, 2009, 02:13:06 PM
The 2nd jaw is gone. I can't really do the shield idea, mainly because I don't have any shields. This army is 100% recycled from things I made in about 2001, the bits box has since been sold! I only have a few odd bits left over, mostly Black Orc bits and Pistoler weapons. :unsure: I do have lots of hardware stuff and a hardware shop on my street so thats why he is mostly made out of screws etc. Most irratatingly i've left my greenstuff in England. So I can't even work on the 2nd arm until I buy some more in Cardiff. Which is a tad annoying.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: wissenlander on April 14, 2009, 02:20:06 PM
Perhaps someone in the trading forum would have something for you?  I would pass some greenskin shields your way, but it's my wife's stuff and I don't think I should just be taking her stuff.  May cause a mini war. :wink:
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 14, 2009, 02:22:30 PM


An orc steampa?

 :lol:

Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 14, 2009, 02:30:50 PM
I really like that name! Infact I think i'll steal it for the actual name, with some kunnin' gobbo aliterationz.  :engel: I might look into the trading forum, i'm tempted to cut pieces out of the body instead though, make it more ramshackle and less flat, then greenstuff the rest. I still have some plastic around to convert into bits I need!

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. Looking for input. (Update April 14th)
Post by: Marius on April 15, 2009, 12:10:31 AM
You are an insane visionary genius! It looks exactly like goblin craftsmanship!

(That was meant as a compliment  :engel:)

I also love what you've done with the cannon in the first two scale pics.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 06:52:30 PM
Having gone on a bit of an adventure into University today I came across lots of wooden sticks! So here is the latest of what i'm considering doing. I quite like it! what do you think?

*Edit, changed pics, the old ones were aweful.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100579.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 20, 2009, 06:56:38 PM
That looks better than the blank before  :engel:

Work faster, you dog!
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 07:17:21 PM
God the pictures are very unforgiving, you really can't see any of the clear gaps on the actual model in the 2nd picture. I can't work too fast, I do have a dissertation to write you know!  :closed-eyes:

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Inarticulate on April 20, 2009, 08:45:29 PM
Haha that looks awesome!

Are you using it with giant rules? It'd be fitting and its about the right size.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 10:38:20 PM
It does kind of look like it would be appropriate as a giant. Rather than Yell and Brawl it could have the steam be released, thump with... is self explaintory. 'Eatbutt could easily be kick or something. It's jump up and down thats the concern, it doesn't look like it could get back up again when it falls over. Then pick up and....doesn't really work either. He can't eat them.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 20, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Pick up and put in Boiler.

Anyway, I thought like the rest of your army you were gonna use some custom rules. Pretty sure everyone who plays you wont mind as long as you discuss it.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 10:41:31 PM
The boiler might be self enclosed by then. It's turning into a pain to get a goblin control point at the back, i'm considering moving the crewman to his shoulders. Plus i'd have to actually make an arm, no idea how to go about that.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 20, 2009, 10:48:08 PM
Make a cage on it's back it can drop people in.

Make up your own rules.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 11:04:58 PM
Home rules might be best, i'd quite like to give it the oppertunity to explode anyway, seems appropriate.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 20, 2009, 11:08:23 PM
Maybe whenever it takes a wound, roll a dice, on a 1 it explodes.

For every wound in total lost, +1 to roll?

Explosion is a Strength 5/6 large template?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 11:18:13 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of, at the beginning of each turn roll a D6, if it's a 1 then look at "summin's gone wrong boss".

1-2 = "Oh zog!"      Boom big template, strength 5 hits to anything nearby.
3-4 = "watz diz leava do?"      Stumbles d6 via scatter dice. Anything it hits takes D3 impact hits. Can't move.
5-6 = "Noez, dat'z da boila relize kontrol!"     Big template ontop of the Steampa, anything under it gets strength 3 hits. Can't move.

Having similar chart for attacks i.e giant style.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 20, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
I am pleased. Use that. Maybe on a 6 it does something right?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Inarticulate on April 20, 2009, 11:23:07 PM
Yeah on a one it assplodes.

on a six it lets off a blast of steam and gets pushed forward or somesuch.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 20, 2009, 11:27:37 PM
Well it's basically suffering from really really deadly animosity as it is. So it's not too much of a leap to make it better on a six. Not too hard to imagine a cackleing Goblin pilot throwing all the switches forward to make it go faster either. I don't think i'd be upset when it blows up either.

Mogsam.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Inarticulate on April 20, 2009, 11:36:42 PM
No, it'd be rather hilarious and goblin..ey.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 24, 2009, 09:17:03 PM
The body is finished and undercoated, i'm looking for ideas about colours of the head and such? Any takers?

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Dannyfave on April 24, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
Green? Red? Black and white checks? Yellow?(<-- I know your good at that color)...... just being a taker.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 24, 2009, 09:33:37 PM
Paint it DOUBLE pink.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 20th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 25, 2009, 02:58:59 PM
Finished the bodywork on this monster. Thinking green mouth, red head and maybe checks for the hat piece.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100585.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100589.jpg)
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 25th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 26, 2009, 10:25:54 AM
Quick update, most of the goblins are painted now. (baring weapons and shoes.) The Steampa is getting blocked out colours.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100595.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100593.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 26, 2009, 03:08:26 PM
Curse you and your ability to stay within the lines.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Warlord on April 26, 2009, 03:31:18 PM
Yowch. Those horns drive me crazy, especially considering your great paintjob.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 26, 2009, 04:25:29 PM
Those horns are now on the to do list! With their hair on the back, I have no GS at the moment to repair them having quite a bit of Dwarf hair remaining. Which is exceptionally annoying for me.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Merrick on April 26, 2009, 07:46:27 PM
Curse you and your ability to stay within the lines.

QFT.


Very nice, my fellow Clevedonian.  :-P
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 26, 2009, 10:04:56 PM
Ha! I love that armoured champion in the bottom pic!

Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Mogsam on April 30, 2009, 12:57:51 PM
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100598.jpg)

Update!

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Inarticulate on April 30, 2009, 01:06:11 PM
Haha that looks awesome. Just random planks of wood tacked to the front.

Kinda reminds me of that BBC kids show 'Little Robots' Which I do not watch.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 30, 2009, 01:30:51 PM
Kinda reminds me of that BBC kids show 'Little Robots' Which I do not watch.

Yes you do.

Hurry it up Mogsam, damn. I want it finished by tomorrow. With a base.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 30, 2009, 02:02:21 PM
Hey, that's cute! He's a happy chappy.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2009, 02:58:02 PM


His head reminds me a little of Vincent from The Black Hole.

Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Mogsam on May 01, 2009, 12:15:20 PM
Death with a smile is more effective than angry death.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Mogsam on May 01, 2009, 10:33:11 PM
My Ironbreaker unit, awaiting the stealing of Whiteys shields.  :happy:

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100610.jpg)


Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Inarticulate on May 01, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
Hehe awesome. Those helmets look like they're ready to break their owner's necks. Which is cool, very warhammer.

What shields are you getting?
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Merrick on May 04, 2009, 09:58:09 PM
Blorc shields, I'm guessing.

Those goblins are hard!
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Mogsam on May 05, 2009, 07:36:50 PM
Black Orcs don't come with shields. They can use them but you get 2 little face things that are busy with my chariots in my proper Orc army. Any shields I get are based upon Whiteys mercy or anyone elses actually. Saying that i'm about 10 minutes away from Eight so I might go smash his house in and nick stuff.  :happy:

Also, if anyone has spare blunderbuii from the milita set they don't mind parting with then i'd love them for ever.  :engel: We can work out a trade.

The blog will be updated in a few days, bought a gyrocopter and a bolt thrower.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on May 05, 2009, 10:20:18 PM
Yeah, go get his shields. Let me be lazy.

I got plenty of those tomb kings ones spare.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Merrick on May 06, 2009, 05:24:32 PM
Saying that i'm about 10 minutes away from Eight so I might go smash his house in and nick stuff.  :happy:

Psh, bit further than 10 minutes.

Anyway, I have nothing worth nicking, and you dunno where my house is.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Mogsam on May 06, 2009, 05:45:49 PM
You live next to the firestation. There isn't that many houses. Also, had to go to Clevedon for a funeral - why i've got no work done, so i'm less than 10 mins away.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: Merrick on May 06, 2009, 09:36:48 PM
Bummer on both counts then.
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update May 8th)
Post by: Mogsam on May 08, 2009, 11:22:11 AM
Update time! First off a big group shot of everything I have going, (except cannon and volley gun) i'm thinking its probably about 1,500 points now. The single ranked unit at the back is 50% crossbow and 50% guns at the moment.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100620.jpg)

2nd shot shows the fate of the steampa, it's a bit broken at the moment, fell over at some point apparently when I was away. I'll reglue him later, he's taken a bit of a back seat till I get a workable Dwarf army ready. He'll get arms when I can think of a way to make them work.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100615.jpg)

Finally, the gyrocopter pre goblinifying and the thundercrossbowmen. Any ideas on goblinifying? Also, yellow outfits for the troops or red?

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100616.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Building a fantasy Stompa/Steampa. (Update April 26th)
Post by: MrDWhitey on May 08, 2009, 11:25:24 AM
Nice.

Now hurry up and get the Stompa done.
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Warlord on May 08, 2009, 03:41:52 PM
I think the yellow /red mix you have looks great.

Can't wait to see the gob-gyro!
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 08, 2009, 04:48:22 PM
Cheers! I'm really enjoying working on them actually, they are so easy to paint! Lovely models.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Warlord on May 09, 2009, 07:28:17 AM
Cheers! I'm really enjoying working on them actually, they are so easy to paint! Lovely models.

Mogsam

It shows. You have practically inspired me to do a very similar thing - I now have about 40 bodies like that, and a whole bunch of old night goblin heads. Of course it gets put to the side as a 'project when I have more time', but still  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 10, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
I have complete conversion block. Any idea how to Goblinify the Gyro?

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Merrick on May 10, 2009, 08:24:19 PM
Perhaps some wolf pelt fur on the canvas of the rotors with green stuff?
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 10, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
I'm not sure on the physics but i'm pretty sure that would make it unable to fly.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Merrick on May 10, 2009, 08:56:15 PM
Oh no, not MADE of pelts.

Just covered in pelts.
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: MrDWhitey on May 11, 2009, 09:04:00 AM
Have random grots hanging off it, maybe one clinging to a rope. Small bombs attached to the hull of the Gyrocopter. Look at the rotor blades of the plastic 40k deathkoptas for ideas on blades (attaching stabby bits on rotors may seem pointless, but these are orcs/goblins). Greenstuff some orcish glyphs onto the hull.
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 11, 2009, 04:02:20 PM
Right this is how far i've gotten, picked the mentalist looking Goblin, given him a flying jacket and a pair of goggles. The two blocks will have glyphs (gliffs) on them, now i'm buggered out of ideas. The rotors seem to be made of cloth so theres no realistic way to add pointy bits really, I could add stiching marks to make them look cruder? The arm i'm using for his left arm could carry a small bomb or dynamite or something. Need to reattach the gun too somewhere, it's too close to his face in the origianl position.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100623.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: patsy02 on May 12, 2009, 11:59:07 AM
You just need some spiky bits on sticking out of the front and gobbo shields on the sides.
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 12, 2009, 07:09:55 PM
Comical eyebrows? Finally gave into Whitey..

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100645.jpg)

Early stages of the head of the Dwarf Lord. Tbh, this picture is mostly for me, I wanted to see if I should shave more of his head off, probably should, gonna need a resculpt on the back anyway.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100649.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: MrDWhitey on May 12, 2009, 07:13:21 PM
Damn right you gave in, those eyebrows are needed. Excellent.
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: patsy02 on May 12, 2009, 07:27:06 PM
I agree on the eyebrows. They are awesome. OT: Am I the only one who thinks the giant belly gun on most stompas are placed too far down and look more like a giant phallus? Or do I have an obsession with penises? If so, I blame Shadowlord.
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Merrick on May 12, 2009, 09:45:56 PM
Or do I have an obsession with penises?

Yes you do.

Tell me, what do you see when you look at the Chaos Plaguereaper?

If so, I blame Shadowlord.

That's right, blame it on someone else.  :-P
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 8th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 15, 2009, 01:34:56 PM
The King of The DwarfishGobbos. First stage of course. Anyone got any ideas how to get his shield held up without resculpting half the arms...

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100654.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 15th May
Post by: steveb on May 15, 2009, 01:55:22 PM
I am not sure I understand the shield question correctly. But I think if you remove the shield and then glue the arm in an upright position and then reglue the shield in the appropriate position it should look goo. or alternatively you could double pin the arm into an upright position with the shield raised high, the double pin reduces the shear factor that you have with no pin and somewhat present with only one pin. I hope I have addressed your question. steveb
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 15th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 15, 2009, 02:08:34 PM
Probably should have explained that a bit better, or at all really.

He's a Dwarf Lord so the shield is infact what he is stood on. (Well technically its a Slovak coin) I need to find a way to hold him up in the air. I'd have taken a picture of the Goblins but they have no arms and it's a bit futile really.

(http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com/kauppa/images/gw_wh_dwarf_king-alrik.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 15th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 16, 2009, 06:43:34 PM
Heres how far i've gotten on the "Dwarf" Lord. I'm reasonably happy, the picture is a bit blurry but with the models being black they aren't showing detail very well. I'll paint them up and they will be better pictures next time. ;)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100665.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 15th May
Post by: steveb on May 16, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
I am afraid a major resculpt is in order to achieve a similar pose.  glue the hands onto the end of a copper wire(after drilling a hole) and then drill shoulder insert wire and bend said wire till the postion is correct then build up the arm part with GS and you are done, good luck. steveb
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 15th May
Post by: Mogsam on May 23, 2009, 09:48:31 AM
I haven't been completely idle this week, however this is pretty much all i've done. Painted then broken the gryocopter. I hate flying stands.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100677.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Dwarf Goblins, Karak Grobbi? Steampa. Update 15th May
Post by: Mogsam on August 27, 2009, 11:13:32 AM
Well rather than start a new thread I thought i'd just update this one! Well it's been nearly 4 months since i've done anything but here is some new work!

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100709.jpg)

The captain of my wolf rider raiding party for our Halfling Revolutionary campaign. All of the wolf riders will have red cloaks from the outrider set. I'm tempted to do 400 points of so of "red cloaks."

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100708.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100711.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100714.jpg)

This was a pain in the arse to do. Not the sculpting but hollowing out the face of a slayer and then removing the head of a spider rider. But i'm quite pleased with it. 

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Merrick on August 27, 2009, 11:41:43 AM
 :icon_lol: Love it!
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on August 28, 2009, 02:30:33 PM
Mostly done now. The belly plate needs work it's a bit of a shambles and he needs a little bit of tidying up but i'm reasonably happy with him and his gigantic beard.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100720.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100721.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100722.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: MrDWhitey on August 28, 2009, 02:35:45 PM
You're silly.

Still not sure on the orange colour for the hair though, even after seeing it. Still, it's nice, now do the base, even if you'll just scrape the sand off after a week.  :roll:
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on August 28, 2009, 02:45:57 PM
I'll get round to doing the bases at some point. Don't really want to ruin them if i can help it. Wish i'd done it at the start.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 28, 2009, 03:49:54 PM
You are crazy in an awesome way.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on August 28, 2009, 04:12:57 PM
That's the best compliament i've had all day.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Nicholas Bies on August 28, 2009, 04:18:19 PM


well I don't know you know like only a crazy person could have thought up such an army but then a crazy person probably wouldn't have been able to execute it with such dexterity meaning you have to be sane. But then no sane person would conduct such an undertaking...
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on September 06, 2009, 07:35:18 PM
How should I differenciate the longbeards from the warriors? It occured to me that I'd need to make them seperate for WYSIWYG, so i'm a tad puzzled.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Merrick on September 06, 2009, 08:10:55 PM
Give them beards.  :-)
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: peraturabo on September 06, 2009, 08:22:45 PM
that would do the job
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on September 06, 2009, 08:27:36 PM
I can't help but feel that would result in every model getting a beard of some kind. Could be a bit silly and de-goblin-ify them.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Von Breden on September 06, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
Give them beards but make it clear that these aren't their own, but shaved beards of dwarfs used as a sort of chin-wig.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 06, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
How should I differenciate the longbeards from the warriors?

Give them a fancier standard.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Von Kurst on September 06, 2009, 11:17:18 PM
Use those scalpy bitz that hang off the Goblin standard and used to come with the Skaven/orc/night goblin/skeleton standard sprue either to jazz up the unit standard or hang them off the front rank of the unit in some way.  Attach to their shields or as body art...
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Union General on September 06, 2009, 11:27:37 PM
The Stompa is pure genius. I love the rag-tag look you've been able to pull off. Keep it up!
 :::cheers:::
-The General
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Warlord on September 07, 2009, 01:44:19 AM
Top knots.

"Long knots"
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on September 07, 2009, 11:53:15 AM
I have to find 100 shields before I can attach anything too them! Those old crappy round ones are suprisingly hard to find.

Shadowlord sent me another 50 Dwarfies today and I went out to get basing equipment, so hopefully I should have pretty dwarfies once I get off my arse and base them. (Suppose sit on my arse rather than get off it i imagine) There was a metal standard top in the package as well which looks quite fancy.

I have to decide on an army list really. Just painting randomly is making me less interested in painting it properly.

The Steampa is shall we say... deceased. Myself and Whitey met up to play and it fell off a table and shattered. Haven't fixed it yet. It will take a very long time.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 27th of August.
Post by: Mogsam on September 07, 2009, 05:21:12 PM
They still have a fair way to go but I based them today. I never realised how much of a difference it would make! They look 10 times better now. Of course they still aren't finished, weapons, teeth, mouth, wooden shafts (hur hur) and touches up need to be applied. But they look alot better.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100726.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 7th of September.
Post by: Merrick on September 07, 2009, 06:35:09 PM
Nice!



Also, from what I've heard, the steampa was dropped.  :wink:
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update 7th of September.
Post by: Mogsam on September 08, 2009, 01:07:55 PM
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100728.jpg)

Hammerer! What'dya think?

He wasn't dropped he fell off their painting station. It was a massacre!

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: MrDWhitey on September 08, 2009, 01:56:38 PM
It is decent and unfinished. The obvious being the closer hand needing greenstuffing to properly join it to the figure proper.

I wont comment on moldlines because I'm worse than most with them.

Other than the obvious "Large hammer", I do think it needs -something- to make them stand out from other units.

Ridiculously large pauldrons?

Ludicrously sized shoulderpads?

Perhaps some blatantly overdone spaulders.

Don't forget to put shields on their backs!
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 08, 2009, 03:54:51 PM
Other than the obvious "Large hammer", I do think it needs -something- to make them stand out from other units.

No it doesn't. Has hammer = hammerer.

It looks good.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Merrick on September 08, 2009, 04:00:07 PM
Other than the obvious "Large hammer", I do think it needs -something- to make them stand out from other units.

No it doesn't. Has hammer = hammerer.

It looks good.

Yeh, that's what I thought.

I like it a lot.  :-)



...now,I may have to fight this army at some point.... :engel:
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on September 08, 2009, 06:03:02 PM
Well the hammer itself might not be enough. I have a unit of 20 to make and about 8 or 9 hammers. They might have to be err great weaponers...

I assume in fluff theres no wiggle room for hammerers without hammers. Then again it's an army of delusional goblins, who can really complain on a fluff basis.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: MrDWhitey on September 08, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
No it doesn't. Has hammer = hammerer.

I've been trying to persuade him to sculpt Lorica Segmentata upper arm and shoulder armour for them.

Not because it looks good either, just so he has lots to do.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2009, 06:56:12 PM
Well the hammer itself might not be enough. I have a unit of 20 to make and about 8 or 9 hammers. They might have to be err great weaponers...

Well you could ask around for some hammers - or dwarf arms with poles and separate hammer heads ..............

That's what we have the bits threads for in the Trading Post ...... :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on September 08, 2009, 07:32:56 PM
I had thought of that Midaski, but that is the last resort! There are still bodging oppertunities!

I might have found a solution, theres a slight scale issue but it could be the perfect smaller hammer head. I'm not sure what piece it is, it's a arrow fletch from one of the crossbow sets with the arrows cut off, basically it is the metalic pouch with a little dwarf symbol on it. Looks just like a hammer head.

After all it's not size that matters right? Plus I have 20 identical pieces. Smashing.

One day i'll let you play me Eight, after I push you over in the street and am forced to reveal my identity.  :evil:

Mogsam. Bloody love puns.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Merrick on September 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
I'm not sure what piece it is, it's a arrow fletch from one of the crossbow sets with the arrows cut off, basically it is the metalic pouch with a little dwarf symbol on it. Looks just like a hammer head.

I think I know the piece you mean, but it might be a little wimpy?

One day i'll let you play me Eight, after I push you over in the street and am forced to reveal my identity.  :evil:

And it's not hard to beat  a guy with concussion at Warhammer. :P
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: steveb on September 08, 2009, 09:37:22 PM
I'm not sure what piece it is, it's a arrow fletch from one of the crossbow sets with the arrows cut off, basically it is the metalic pouch with a little dwarf symbol on it. Looks just like a hammer head.

I think I know the piece you mean, but it might be a little wimpy?

One day i'll let you play me Eight, after I push you over in the street and am forced to reveal my identity.  :evil:

And it's not hard to beat  a guy with concussion at Warhammer. :P
wimpy? maybe, but it could be used as a second weapon counting as a shield. steveb
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on September 09, 2009, 09:20:19 AM
Well this is the part I meant, I think it makes quite a good hammerhead, it's a bit small in comparison to the rest of the army but that's because they are ridiculously big rather than the hamemr being wrong. I had thought about putting something on the front of these pieces to make the hammer "bigger" but I don't have anything sufficiently small and round to make a bigger head and I quite like them how they are for now.

I'll shave all the mould lines off before I do any painting and i'll greenstuff the handgaps. They also have to all get fur coats to hide their hair.

I'm trying to decide if I should put my lord on a 4 dwarf shield rather than a two dwarf shield. He is certainly getting a new shield as the men holding him up are in the wrong style and he is far too tall.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100735.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100732.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100734.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100731.jpg)

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on September 09, 2009, 09:28:54 AM
Oh and I forgot this one.

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100736.jpg)

They will be replacing the Ironbreakers in my list. Because they are 10x better converted and sexier. The Ironbreakers are being retired.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: MrDWhitey on September 09, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
Keep the ironbreakers, or I'll break you.

I like those hammers, they're not ridiculously oversized.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Midaski on September 09, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
That's a good idea and well executed Mogsam.

I too have loads of them, there were lots in the regiment set with those crappy shouldered crossbow arms.
I cut the bolt tops off too but then used them just as ordinary pouches.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Von Breden on September 09, 2009, 06:12:23 PM
Everytime I see those Dwarf bodies I cry and ask why GW replaced them with those horrible formless new ones.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on September 09, 2009, 08:24:48 PM
Midaski:- Thanks, they seemed like annoying little pointless things but I had the idea of turning them into a hammer a while ago when I made some miners up. It gives me a convienient uniform look and they are good as hammer heads.I've got a few of those shoulder armed crossbows lying around, they aren't great but they aren't aweful.

As Whitey has requested that I post the thing i've been working on for the last few hours (if these hammerers die tommorow to a hellstorm i will be very upset!)
I present my Shieldbearers!

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100738.jpg)

(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll277/mogsam_moogle/SS100739.jpg)

The heads haven't been touched by a file yet as they are blue tacked on (like half the heads in the army at the moment. but thats the general pose of them. They are technically illegal but 2 will pretend to be hammerers. Wink Wink Nudge Nudge. The front hammer appears to be wonky now I can see the pictures. Bah! Also, plasticard over the 2p? The queen won't mind right? It's only a little treason.

Mogsam
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: MrDWhitey on September 09, 2009, 08:47:14 PM
omg base size is 2 big u suk.


 :engel:

I'd suggest covering up her face.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 09, 2009, 09:37:52 PM
Quote from: Mogsam
They will be replacing the Ironbreakers in my list.

Good choice. Ironbreakers are no good anymore.


I'm calling the police about your defacement of the coin of the realm.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Nicholas Bies on September 10, 2009, 01:38:44 AM
haha wow I like those alot.

Need to get myself to the UK to check'em out in person.
Title: Re: Mogsams Dwarf Goblins. Update:- Hammerer!
Post by: Mogsam on September 10, 2009, 05:48:44 PM
I played a 2250 point game earlier. All of the hammerers died horribly, however they did it spectacularly. I like hammerers now. Much better than Ironbreakers!

I quite want slayers though. They won't disapoint me by dieing.

Mogsam