Topic: 8th edition on route.

[FR1DAY]

Ork faction focus on Thursday! It's the one I've been waiting for!

[phillyt]

Me to!  Where did you read that it was coming thursday?!?

So where will the army rules be found?  Are they selling books which contain the army rules?  I thought these rules would be downloadable.

[StealthKnightSteg]

a retype from an FB post:

What is the source of this?

Box game 95 pounds

So the same price as the two Heresy games (Calth & Prospero) : $150 in the USA.

here is the full FB post (from a UK based hobbyshop fb page)

LVL UP Bournemouth
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40k Update - RRP's:

WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) £95.00
WARHAMMER 40000 RULEBOOK (ENGLISH) £35.00
WH40K: TACTICAL OBJECTIVE CARDS (ENG) £8.00
SECTOR IMPERIALIS: OBJECTIVES £20.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMMAND DICE £12.50
WARHAMMER 40000: WOUND TRACKERS £8.00
INDEX: XENOS 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: XENOS 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: CHAOS (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
DARK IMPERIUM NOVEL (HB) £18.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMBAT GAUGE £6.00
CITADEL DEATH GUARD GREEN SPRAY £11.75

[Artobans Ghost]

The models in that box look quite ace, IMO. Seeing a bunch of those new Marines is nice, I like them a lot. And the Deathguard stuff is cool!

So the hardcover rule book is 35 pounds, which is also in the box - which means 60 pounds for the models and assorted stuff. Not bad value at all for over 50 models with that level of detail!

Agreed! I'm not sure I need more marines but I'll take em. And the chaos is awesome. Same with their AoS chaos dudes. Specially the blight kings. Never been a fan of chaos but I'm being warped.

[Darknight]

Artoban's Ghost: If you aren't sure if you want the Marines, check my swap thread in the trading post - you could offload the Primaris and receive more Nurgley doods.

[Gankom]

Me to!  Where did you read that it was coming thursday?!?

So where will the army rules be found?  Are they selling books which contain the army rules?  I thought these rules would be downloadable.

From what I've seen only the core rules will be free downloads for now. All the faction rules are going to be in the Index books. So you find which Index book your faction is in, and pick that up, but the main rules you can download to try the game itself.

[FR1DAY]

There are five index books 2 imperial ( marines and other) 1 chaos and 2 Xenos (elder and necrons and others)

Info on orks was at the bottom of the faction focus on deathguard

[Midaski]

Core Rules - Free

Advanced Rules - Not

[Finlay]

Someone on FB said the indexes would go on to be replaced by actual codexes, but they're released en masse to allow people to use their armies.

not sure if true?

I wonder if you "need" any of the extras- command dice and so on.
the tactical objective cards are near mandatory currently.

[phillyt]

Yeah, looked into it afterwards.  Thats what it is!  We are buying a starter box then I am grabbing the xeno book with the tyranid player in my group.

[Xathrodox86]

I'm reaaaaaly happy for the Tyranids buff. That army deserved to be better and now it looks like they will. Swarmlord is outright nasty and 'stealers are going to wreck face. Of course we shall see how well will they fare against the Chad Marines, but still - it's cool that they're giving the Nids some love.

[Aldaris]

http://natfka.blogspot.de/2017/05/8th-edition-orks.html

[phillyt]

I'm loving that!

Everything sounds good to me, though the 6+ for the painboy isn't all that impressive...

[Aldaris]

It isn't on the surface -  but when you get 6+ armor (without cover) followed by a 6+ painboy save (and we don't know if that can be improved) even against bolters now, your boyz still get quite a bit more survivable.

[phillyt]

True, plus it doesn't seem to be like FNP.  Its a straight 6+ save if it remains as is which is cool.  The return of the true KFF is fantastic too.

[rufus sparkfire]

Wait, what are primaris space marines? New super-space-marines?

2 army books for the Imperium. I hope Grey Knights and Imperial Guard are in the same one.

[Xathrodox86]

Wait, what are primaris space marines? New super-space-marines?

2 army books for the Imperium. I hope Grey Knights and Imperial Guard are in the same one.

They're to the Astartes what the Astartes are to the Guard. At some time there will only be Primaris Marines, since the "normal" SM can be upgraded.

Belisarius Cawl - walking plot device.

[Finlay]

Wait, what are primaris space marines? New super-space-marines?

2 army books for the Imperium. I hope Grey Knights and Imperial Guard are in the same one.

they're not.

it's basically "space marines (of all types, including grey knights)" and "everything else"



but I think the indexes are only £15 each.
Index Imperium 1: Space Marines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Deathwatch and Legion of the Damned.
Index Imperium 2: Astra Militarum, Adeptus Mechanicus, Imperial Knights, Imperial Agents and Talons of the Emperor.
Index Chaos: Heretic Astartes, Chaos Daemons and Questor Traitoris.
Index Xenos 1: Craftworlds, Drukarii, Ynnari, Harlequins and Necrons.
Index Xenos 2: Orks, Tau Empire, Tyranids and Genestealer Cults.

yeh, super space marines is a bit dodgy to me!

[Finlay]

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/724730.page;jsessionid=1EAED54E9FF8E3AEE7CD4EBAF1120662

the OP of this thread is updated with all of the posts so far I think, and good pictures of the box set.

I meant to say it's nice to have websites with info and stuff on, and not just be a shop.

[phillyt]

Wait, what are primaris space marines? New super-space-marines?

2 army books for the Imperium. I hope Grey Knights and Imperial Guard are in the same one.

They're to the Astartes what the Astartes are to the Guard. At some time there will only be Primaris Marines, since the "normal" SM can be upgraded.

Belisarius Cawl - walking plot device.

Well they are only a tiny bit better.  The Custodes are more accurately described as to space marines what space marines are to guard I would say.

[Xathrodox86]

Wait, what are primaris space marines? New super-space-marines?

2 army books for the Imperium. I hope Grey Knights and Imperial Guard are in the same one.

They're to the Astartes what the Astartes are to the Guard. At some time there will only be Primaris Marines, since the "normal" SM can be upgraded.

Belisarius Cawl - walking plot device.

Well they are only a tiny bit better.  The Custodes are more accurately described as to space marines what space marines are to guard I would say.

Primaris Marines are made, using Custodes technique. That's why they're so good, altough stat-wise they're nothing too special IMO.

[rufus sparkfire]

It's annoying that I'd need both books! Booo.

Thanks for the info on the primaris. I somehow didn't hear about them before.

[Finlay]

Yes, they seem very certain on their grey knight as spacemarines/inquisition split unlie greyknights as inquisition.

it amuses me heartily they split up eldar and tau in the xenos book.

Rumours are the indexes are only "holding" books, kinda like charged for ravening hordes, before proper codexes come later.


GUYS IM REALLY EXCITED.

[Xathrodox86]

Didn't they said that there will be no more codexes, only AoS-like Warscrolls? I kinda like that idea.

[Sig]

No, they specifically said Indexes are to hold you over until you get a new Codex.