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Title: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on February 13, 2020, 06:33:21 PM
Right now, list them. I want to know what province your Empire army(ies) are from.

Pics if you got them.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: GamesPoet on February 13, 2020, 08:48:30 PM
Main armies are from Averland,  and a Tilean Mercenary Army from Tobaro.

Units for Stirland, Wissenland, and Matorea in the Border Princes and sometimes cross purpose a few of these for Marienburg.

Also, a single unit for the Tilean City States of Castanzio and Bracciano

And some figures for the Town of Tussenhof in Hochland.

Plans to expand all of these, and perhaps have a few more not started yet.

Oh, and there are Halflings too.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on February 13, 2020, 09:45:21 PM
Wow you are brave to be working with yellow. I have so many problems painting with that color.

Also, what were some of the more common empire armies back in the day? Where there equivalents to the Ultramarines, Space Wolves, and so on?
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: GamesPoet on February 13, 2020, 10:37:37 PM
I mostly work off white spray coat, and that seems to make yellow easier.

As to your next question ... there was once a thread here on who had what armies, and I vaguely recall a good number from Averland with various reasons like the fluff of Black Fire Pass, Marius Leitdorf as Elector, and the black and yellow scheme being popular.  And back in the days before WFB was eliminated for W:AoS, I saw the red and white scheme of Talabecland in hobby stores quite a bit, which is the color scheme shown on the packaging of the figures.  But that isn't very scientific. ... lol.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Dihenydd on February 13, 2020, 10:45:45 PM
1 lone Captasus and one Champion are all that remain of my once large Stir River Patrol (about 4,500 pts including my DoW mercenaries).  The bright green and white quarters really popped on the battlefield.  Gave a nice clean and cohesive look to the army.

I sold or gave the rest to steveb a few years ago

Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Gankom on February 14, 2020, 03:23:04 AM
Originally my armies hailed from Hochland and Middenheim, but that was decades ago and I generally make my own areas rather then follow the provinces. Even when it was more of a traditional army it generally featured units or characters from across the Empire. All mustered together to throw back the forces of evil.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 14, 2020, 08:53:53 AM
I mostly work off white spray coat, and that seems to make yellow easier.

As to your next question ... there was once a thread here on who had what armies, and I vaguely recall a good number from Averland with various reasons like the fluff of Black Fire Pass, Marius Leitdorf as Elector, and the black and yellow scheme being popular.  And back in the days before WFB was eliminated for W:AoS, I saw the red and white scheme of Talabecland in hobby stores quite a bit, which is the color scheme shown on the packaging of the figures.  But that isn't very scientific. ... lol.

here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=53476.0

and here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32944.0
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: GamesPoet on February 14, 2020, 01:04:33 PM
here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=53476.0
Ah, forgot about that one.  And added my units for my two Tilean City States, and my few figures for Tussenhof Hochland to my  post above.

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and here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32944.0
This was the one I was referring to in my post.

Thanks! :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: errantgamer on February 14, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
I remember going through Steg's compendium of armies when I first joined this forum... it's a cornucopia of excellence going back through some of those.

If only photobucket didn't ruin a good number of the old plogs... :(
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on February 14, 2020, 02:42:30 PM
I mostly work off white spray coat, and that seems to make yellow easier.

As to your next question ... there was once a thread here on who had what armies, and I vaguely recall a good number from Averland with various reasons like the fluff of Black Fire Pass, Marius Leitdorf as Elector, and the black and yellow scheme being popular.  And back in the days before WFB was eliminated for W:AoS, I saw the red and white scheme of Talabecland in hobby stores quite a bit, which is the color scheme shown on the packaging of the figures.  But that isn't very scientific. ... lol.

here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=53476.0

and here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32944.0

Ah excellent thanks will take a look.

As for pics yeah that has been a problem with me going through other old threads that looked interesting, only to find none of the pics showing up. :(
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on February 14, 2020, 03:38:49 PM
Dammit! I am so angry about the pics!
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Naitsabes on February 14, 2020, 05:40:15 PM
what I do when looking for inspiration is go through old and even older threads in the painting section here, specifically the ones with many pages as that tends to be years of quality work focused on a coherent army.

you can do the same in other places with a long history, for example on warseer, just put 'Empire' as a search term in their hobby section.

but yeah, photobucket really made a mess of things!

This might also be a good starting point to find eye candy:
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=40574.0

(p.s. mostly Altdorf, Nordland and Ostland for me)
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on February 14, 2020, 06:44:05 PM
Oh man that thread is awesome but as usual many of the pics aren't working. Dammit. Man, I always felt like I missed the boat but now I feel LIKE I REALLY MISSED THE BOAT. What I wouldn't give to go back and be doing this when it was in its prime.

I imagine you guys did a lot of inspiring for each other.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Naitsabes on February 14, 2020, 07:58:41 PM
It's a bit like an Asimov novel, isn't it? Reminiscing about the Golden Age while that knowledge slowly fades away.  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: errantgamer on February 15, 2020, 03:58:36 AM
Well, it's photobucket's fault, entirely! We need a sticky or something waving people away from that place! And to update the old plogs :)

Maybe it might work...  :icon_lol:

I habitually use Imgur. Recommend it!
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Gankom on February 15, 2020, 05:43:08 PM
It's a real shame there's no way to archive old threads like that in a way that preserves the pictures. The fickleness of the internet I guess. Things are preserved forever, and yet also swept away into the void at the smallest change.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Padre on February 15, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
There was a way to preserve the pictures in old threads - the Oldhammer Forum did it using a method several other forums recommended. My entire campaign thread, and stuff going way back, has been preserved wholly intact there, and all the newer stories and posts have IMGUR photos.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: StealthKnightSteg on February 22, 2020, 11:14:32 AM
I had the same problems with my Facebook linked pictures... they kept moving hem around on their servers, adjusting the actual link time and time again.. still need to relocate a few pictures to my blog where they have a fixed url
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: errantgamer on February 29, 2020, 04:15:51 AM
Aha --

Regarding blurry Photobucket images obscured by their obnoxious watermark: If you right click the image and select "open in new tab" it usually loads, more visible, no watermark. Doesn't work if the pic is snipped away into the white void of [image missing] though.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: brr-icy on March 01, 2020, 04:54:04 AM
Photobucket got greedy. They didn't preserve the quality of the pictures in three first place,  then pulled their bs $400 a year to share pics thing,  i was glad i moved to Flickr mainly
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 02, 2020, 05:43:08 AM
My comment from the more recent link shared by SKS still holds true...

In my mind, since the "official" version of the setting has been killed off, I've branched off with my own alternate setting. In this "Althammer" (as I'm referring to it) I've got several tiers (size & importance) of armies, and a couple of them fit the "Empire" theme, I think.

One being Marienburg, which I played in WFB 6th - 8th editions, and continue to expand upon in a "rules-neutral" sense. (I've used them in KoW and WFB3 since the "official" death of the Old World.)

The other is my own concept, the Jackrabbit Trading Company, a merchant company from Marienburg's hinterland (the Wasteland -- specifically the Little Country) that has a significant armed presence and becomes involved in regional politics/uprisings as well as following the original mission of guarding the overland trade caravans.

I'm currently prepping minis for a small force of "hill folk" -- rural rebels, bandits, etc. from the hill country on the Wasteland side of the Grey Mountains/Pale Sisters. Imperial hillbillies?  :wink:

I'm increasingly fond of the idea of "regiments of renown" and have been thinking about painting up some other Empire/Old World regiments... a former Nordland regiment that's turned mercenary, official DoW  (I still have unpainted Pirazzo's Lost Legion & the Birdmen of Catrazza figures), maybe some more homegrown regiments.

I've since picked up some of the Oathmark humans to use as a core for the hill folk, but haven't gotten past the assembly stage. Unfortunately, most of the above have been taking a back seat to some of the other factions for my Marienburg/Wasteland regional setting. I did paint a small witch-hunter band towards the end of last year.

I still have plans for more landsknecht styel mercenaries, JTC humans & hobbits and the rural Wastelanders & hill folk mentioned above. I'm increasingly liking the idea of a small Nordland incursion force.

As far as photos, I just link from my blog anymore...

https://www.zerotwentythree.com/search/label/Marienburg (tagged posts)
https://www.zerotwentythree.com/p/army-of-marienburg.html (started to photograph the army, but didn't get far...)
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Shadespyre on March 02, 2020, 01:14:44 PM
My army is from Middenheim, specifically shortly after the Storm of Chaos. It's a "New Model" army, I literally disposed of all the units from the Storm of Chaos army book and expanded the army to fit the newer books. Some of my units are "fluffed" as veterans of the siege. I'll have a dig and see if I can find the original thread, but the pictures may be lost in tinypic somewhere...
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Warlord on March 05, 2020, 10:03:12 PM
I have:

Hochland army - almost fully painted.
30 x swordsmen, spearmen, greatswords, free company
40 x halberds
20 flagellants
10 handgunners
20 archers
18 knights
8 knights with great weapons
3 demi-gryph knights
11 pistoliers
8 outriders
2 cannons
2 mortars
1 helblaster
1 rocket
1 steam tank
1 galloper gun
1 war altar
1 wizard wagon
2 griffons (1 needs painting)
2 pegasi captains (1interchangeable for wizard)
Various captains, engineers, warrior priests, wizards, etc.
6 demi-lancers (light cav with lances and pistols)
10 dwarf swordsmen
3 ironguts
2 leadbelchers
A number of more woodsy / wildmen that I still need to paint up.
10 crossbows that still need painting

I have a thread in the Brush and Palette that has these pics.

I also have a Stirland / Dogs of War Army, a Middenhiem / Ulric / Kislev army, a Riekland / Altdorf / Nuln army, a Sigmarite army, and an Araby army with elephants. I used to have a Marienburg army, but I gave it to a friend. He may give it back one of these days.

I also have some human sylvanian troops with my vampires, and a 5th ed ‘show’ army painted based on a lot of the old 5th ed GW pictures.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Zak on March 05, 2020, 11:14:55 PM
Middenhiem, Talabhiem, Dwarf, small halfling addition
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Zak on March 05, 2020, 11:15:59 PM
now if you want to see what Steveb did here is his collection ( I don't take any credit for these lol)

https://www.facebook.com/worldofsteveb/?modal=admin_todo_tour
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on March 06, 2020, 02:04:52 PM
I have:

Hochland army - almost fully painted.

I was not familiar with this province so looked it up. I am guessing these are fun guys to paint, but I am amazed you havent gotten bored painting all that you have for the same theme... haven't you ever wanted to try out another province?

What is the biggest game you have played them?
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Gankom on March 07, 2020, 01:34:39 AM
Hochland was best land. All hail Ludenhof!
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Warlord on March 07, 2020, 02:00:47 AM
In the 5th ed army book it was said that Hochland was wealthy. Their halberdier in the example art had the most armour.
So I took that concept, and made my Hochland army very armoured. My handgunners are basically in plate armour - using briganza’s beseigers models. All my models have enough armour they should rules wise be heavy or plate instead of light.

Regarding getting bored - no. I used to play a lot during 6th and 7th ed. I needed appropriate unit sizes. I also needed enough models to make multiple smaller units (2 units of 15 greatswords were a favourite of mine during 7th and 8th edition). 40 - 50 halberds were a staple of 8th ed Empire armies. I didn’t start with the unit sizes being that though. I started with a workable 2000pt list, then increased as I adjusted the list while playing.

The amount I accumulated just kinda happened. I needed extra knight armoured arms, so bought more knight boxes. I wanted to run an all knight army. I wanted to run a gunline. I then settle on a style I like, and all those extra models form new armies.
Then as those armies form, I need a specific unit or 3 to make then themed or unique. And so on.

I attended 2 tournaments - ranked midrange, but second time I went with no wizards which was a surprise to most opponents as well as my numbers of troops.

Painting is less interesting to me than the modelling / conversions and armybuilding around a theme or background part of the hobby. I am still catching up in painting. Like I said, my Hochland and Marienburg (which I gave away) are my only mostly fully painted armies.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Shadespyre on March 09, 2020, 11:36:38 PM
Good news! I found some pictures...

(https://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/Shadespyre/WARHAMMER/Middenheim%20Empire%20Army/P1010032_zps7d425685.jpg)

(https://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/Shadespyre/WARHAMMER/Middenheim%20Empire%20Army/P1010039_zps856e1243.jpg)

(https://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/Shadespyre/WARHAMMER/Middenheim%20Empire%20Army/P1010052_zps322aca10.jpg)

It's not a work of art but there sure is a lot of it...

I seem to have a valid army list of around 12600 points and 516 models, but I also have a spreadsheet claiming I've painted 620 models for the army. I suspect both are out of date.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on March 10, 2020, 12:53:25 PM
Holy crap, that is some amazing commitment you have. I think the army looks great. Is that Middenheim? I didn't know the Empire had dragons.

What is the biggest game you've played with them? I am really curious how big the biggest games peeps have played.

You've got that wizard wagon thing don't you? I asked about those a few pages ago. I think the kits look amazing. It doesn't look anywhere near as big as I thought it did next to those other units. I assume its just on a regular chariot base?

What is that thing way in the back in the first pic next to the tower?

Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Zak on March 10, 2020, 07:46:08 PM
 :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: GamesPoet on March 10, 2020, 09:16:01 PM
Empire for the win! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Gankom on March 10, 2020, 09:34:18 PM
Awesome pictures!

I've had plenty of ~10,000 pt battles over the years. I think the largest was 15,000 vs 20,000 we played over a long weekend but each team was made up of a couple of different players with around 5,000 pts. It took forever to play and we were pretty burned out by the end.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: KTG17 on March 11, 2020, 02:47:03 AM
What armies and who won?
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Shadespyre on March 11, 2020, 01:11:26 PM
Holy crap, that is some amazing commitment you have. I think the army looks great. Is that Middenheim? I didn't know the Empire had dragons.

What is the biggest game you've played with them? I am really curious how big the biggest games peeps have played.

You've got that wizard wagon thing don't you? I asked about those a few pages ago. I think the kits look amazing. It doesn't look anywhere near as big as I thought it did next to those other units. I assume its just on a regular chariot base?

What is that thing way in the back in the first pic next to the tower?

It took at least 10 years to collect and build the army (along with other things of course), it didn't happen quickly! Yes, it's Middenheimers, almost entirely. The Imperial Dragon is a mount option for Karl Franz in some editions of the army book :)

The wizard wagon is on a chariot base, but it's still quite impressive. I built mine with magnets so I can swap it from type to type. And I built my own War Altar weeks before they released the kit.

I think I played 6000 points once, as part of a battle with 12000 points per size. It takes forever and I'm not sure the rules really work at that scale to be honest.

At the back by the tower there is my supply wagon, and also an old metal giant (which I can't currently find a picture of)

(https://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/Shadespyre/WARHAMMER/Middenheim%20Empire%20Army/Brewery2.jpg)
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Gankom on March 11, 2020, 05:02:14 PM
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(I think I played 6000 points once, as part of a battle with 12000 points per size. It takes forever and I'm not sure the rules really work at that scale to be honest.

Hands down agree. Things get tedious and broken really quickly. The board looks cool, but things get really crowded and there's no real room to maneuver. Everyone just kind of has to slog forward and hope for the best.

What armies and who won?

It was Grand Alliance Vs Forces of Darkness. All the players had mixed armies (it was part of our homebrew factions), so pretty much every race was included. Darkness was very heavily Ogres, Chaos and Undead and led by a Tomb King. Grand Alliance was heavily Dwarfs and Empire, with tons of elves and various other humans.

If I remember correctly Grand Alliance won when the head vampire and Tomb King both got sniped by cannons in the same, final turn. That put us over points to win and we essentially called it at the start of turn 6 because we were pretty burnt out by then.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Rowsdower on March 12, 2020, 03:17:19 AM
I've been slowly adding to my main Empire army for 20 years now.
I also have a Conquistador themed Empire army
A pirate themed Empire army
AND a Vampire counts zombie Empire army.

I've amassed so many archer arms I've run out of places to put them.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Borderguy190 on April 21, 2020, 06:50:31 PM
Middenheim mainly.  A Nuln contingent of handgunners and a planned great cannon.  A mixed militia unit, and a Stirland Huntsmen detachment, and a unit of Reiksguard knights painted.  I plan on adding a mercenary pike unit, a Reikland unit of spears or swords, and a few others if I can find units. Mostly sticking to a Middenheim/Middenland force.

For now.  :icon_biggrin:

Edit:
I forgot about the Highland models I bought (hand weaps and like, 2 units) and my plans for other hillfolk Empireish soldiers using tge Oathmark models.  And a halfling force once a Kick starter gets here from Westfalia. 
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: Dihenydd on April 28, 2020, 10:02:05 PM
I think I peaked at 5000 pts in the end, but almost all in 6th ed., I barely touched 7th. 

The Stir River stalled out when kids came along, but I did have a plan to add a Reman Legions army.  Kinda sorry I never started on it.  Seems silly to try to start one now as I barely play, have no time, and really don't like the current editions all that much.  Still, occasionally start drafting how i would make it.
Title: Re: What Empire armies have you built?
Post by: GamesPoet on April 29, 2020, 01:27:26 AM
Well rumor has it that there's another edition of WFB on the way. :icon_wink: