Author Topic: My Stirland army, 1361 IC civilwar period (larp pictures) (Read 16232 times)

Thomas Aagaard · « **on:** May 13, 2009, 03:36:55 PM »

I made the army for the larp "Warlarp V - In the empire I was born..."

I started it last september and I used about 225 models, and lots and lots of food...

Its first handfull of battles was fought this weekend... and I lost most of it.

This army needs more polearm units... and some zweihänders...

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Bagground story:

The year is 1361 IC and there is a civilwar on.
(read the book "Empire at war" for more info)
On one side we have the loyalists who support Emperor Otto I from Stirland
Stirland, Hochland, Wissanland(nuln) and Ostland.

On the other side the Ottilians...
They support Ottilian of Talabheim.
Talabecland/Talebheim, Middenland/middenheim and Averland.

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since its a larp, the rules are defrent so some things properley don't make sense or breaks he WFB rules...
Polearms rule the battlefield for one thing...

moral points.
All have 1MP as basic
A mucisian givvs +1MP
statetroops get +1MP

when you get hit you loose 1point if hit in arm og leg
3 points from a hit in the body.
when you loos all AP/MP you have to play dead, flee or surrender.

armour counts as extra "hit points".
You get from 0AP-8AP. they are lost before Moral points.

No detachments and no skirmishers

There is to types of soldieres:
Statetropps (+1MP) and militia.

You can't mix weapons in one unit.
They types is:
Polearms (spears and helbards, NO shields)
shield and handweapon (shield max size 90cm x 60cm)
Bows (and handweapons and bucklers max 40cm round)
Two-handed weapons

The general and battlestandard is a hero.
He have 2MP+AP and gives the unit he joins a bonus MP.
(so no herohammer)

The Obercaptains command a Kampfgruppe. but is not a hero and have to join a unit to fight.
Their primary job is to command... not fight. that is why they are not armed and armoured that heavy.

The list

All units strength is the total number of "men" (not counting non combetans like medics, runners)
The commanders usually leads from behind the line. (they all have pistols, so they can shoot anyone trying to flee)

all units have a banner, since its required by the rules.

armour is given in nothing(0-2), light(2-4), heavy(4-6) and very havy (6-8)
My quess on the unit average.

The Stirland Army

Staff:
The general, battelstandard and 2x obercaptains was Marienburgers that was hired for the job.

Odric Ehrenfelz von Schardenspieler, Markgraff auf Niddesdorf

(to the right of the banner)
General of the Empire.
heavy armour and tohanded sword

Louis Franziska Berthier
(se pic abowe)
Battlestandard
light armour and sword

1st Stirland cannon

cannon with crew.
(this was only used for one battle since we used explosives to show where the cannonball hit the ground)

Die stahl Kampfgruppe - I Kampfgruppe

OBERKAPTAJN REINHARDT WOLFGANG MENGELN

Heavyarmour, sword, shield and pistol.

9th Stirland regiment of the Line

26 statetropps with Heavy armour and spears
with full command.

12th Stirland Support regiment

12 statetropps with Light armour and sword and shields
with full command.

IV Stir Riverpatrole

12 statetropps (pioneers) with sword and bucklers.
(and 2 handguns, lots of axes, hammers and other tools...)
Banner and an "engineer" (not a hero)

V Stir Riverpatrole

16 statetropps with bows, swords and bucklers
with full command.
(yes, this is an all girl regiment)

II Kampfgruppe - The Hochland Kampfgruppe

Obercaptain HORST GARSTIGKRUPEN GROSSSTEINER
Light armour, sword

23. Hochland Regiment of the Line

24 Statetroops with very heavy armour, shields and swords.
with full command.

29. Stirland Regiment of Archers

10 statetroops with bows and handweapons.

I Nuln support regiment

11 statetroops with light armour, swords and shields.
Full command.

Klam Militia

22 militia with light armour and two-handed axes
Full command
This is a unit of local lumberjacks...
they join the fight when the town of Klam was burden by the 13. Averland.

III Kampfgruppe - The Ostland Kampfgruppe

OBERKAPTAJN OCTAVIUS VON JUTUNGARD, DEICHGRAF AUS NIDDESDORF
Light armour, sword

X Ostland support regiment

20 statetroops with heavy armour, swords and shields
Full command

VII Ostland Support Regiment

10 statetroops with light armour and spears
Full command

III Ostland regiment of the Line

11 statetroops with light armour, swords and shields
Full command

7th stirland militia "LANGWELD"

13 militia with spears.
scouts
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The Ottilian army will follow later.

look here for some more pictures:
http://munthe-kaas.dk/foto/2009-05-krigslive5/

Acadian · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2009, 04:51:04 PM »

Nice Larp Pictures!!
nice clothes, nice...

Well everything is nice

* Acadian thinks it was a day full of fun

Inarticulate · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2009, 06:53:53 PM »

Dude your painting and scenery is immense.

How do you do the eyes?

(Old joke, i know, but someone had to)

Looks great mate! was it specifically an empire re-enactment, or was it a Landsknecht fest with some skulls thrown in?

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:39:30 PM »

Damn... I really wish I could be a part.

Looks like loads of fun and would be a nice change once in a while compared to re-enactment. And all that damn armour is not cheap, since it is the same stuff the 16th century re-enactors use.

Well, 9th Stirland must be done!

Feanor Fire Heart · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:47:55 PM »

wow. that. looks. awesome!

never larped and never plan too but I wouldnt mind renacting.

looks like great fun and a lot of armor to caring around all day. was it heavy?

Thomas Aagaard · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2009, 11:52:33 PM »

Its warhammer (fantasy) battle as live roleplay.

here is a picture of the 9th Stirland butchering the 42nd Talabecland.

The 101. Talabheim, 47.Talabecland (helbardiers) and 21.Talabheim(helbardiers) all got pushed back, and in the end broken by the 9th. (with some help from the 4th Stir river patrole and 23.Hochland)

To realy understand how polearms work, imaging WFB where spear units allways strikes first in the first combatround and allways fight i two ranks...(even when charching) and when its polearm vs polearm, the longest weapons strikes first. (and the 9th have the longest spears)
Offcause archers and hut them and sword/shield units generaly have a much better chance when out numbered.

Armour:
Some of the armour is "reenacter quality" and made by proper armoures...
But much of it is made for larp use and is massproduced in India... and will not stand up to steelweapons.

The IV Stir riverpatrole
This regiment was an all girl unit.
Iam realy impressed with them. They played soldiers like everybody ells. No speciel treatment.
And they had no problem following orders... even when orderd to charge enemy heavy lineregiments.
(that they had no change of surviving against for very long)

Marching:

Break. (with out the hats its a lot easier to the that its girls)

Charging the 101. Talabecheim.

The rebel... I mean the Ottilian army will follow tomorrow (CET time)

Markw · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2009, 11:41:44 AM »

Im a keen larper myselfm where is this played?

Thomas Aagaard · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2009, 12:22:31 PM »

Denmark

wissenlander · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2009, 07:06:25 PM »

You guys know how to party.

Inarticulate · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:32:29 AM »

Okay, okay.

Could someone educate me about this live action roleplay business? The most i've ever heard about it was from the film 'Role Models' with fogell from Superbad.

Do different groups come from around their countries to roleplay together? Or is it so big that this is just one group?

Riis · « **Reply #10 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:20:55 AM »

Quote from: Thomas Aagaard on May 14, 2009, 12:22:31 PM

Denmark

I'm from denmark, and now keenly interested. Where in Denmark did/do you play?

MrDWhitey · « **Reply #11 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:38:45 AM »

Why do those Stirland soldiers have shoes? Have they no shame?

General Tomerix Rotenkopf · « **Reply #12 on:** May 20, 2009, 05:45:06 PM »

Hi, I am new hre.. just want to comment and say WOW, this is sooo cool with live action pictures. I didn´t know there were THAT nerdy people in this hobby! Great fun! =P

Perambulator · « **Reply #13 on:** May 20, 2009, 09:10:37 PM »

Wow, that does look like a lot of fun. The attention to detail is impressive. Looks like you guys spent a lot of time and money on the whole thing.

Von Breden · « **Reply #14 on:** May 20, 2009, 10:38:55 PM »

When I grow up, I want to be a LARPer. Does that say anything bad about me?

GamesPoet · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2009, 12:52:58 AM »

Woah. This stopped me in my tracks.

Could you please share the story of how this got started and how this works?

patsy02 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2009, 01:15:10 AM »

Where are all the skulls and inbreeds?

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2009, 07:09:49 AM »

Every Stirlander knows that those allegations about lack of shoes, skulls and inbreeds are just slandering that say more about those slandering the brave Stirlanders than about Stirland herself!

Gotta make myself a riverpatrol regiment! Damn, really cool lassies!

Uryens de Crux · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2009, 07:32:33 AM »

Speaking as a re-enactor, even I think that looks pretty cool

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2009, 08:33:32 AM »

A Mathi and a re-enactor, and I approve of this tread!

Shadowwolf · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2009, 07:31:26 PM »

Oooh, Me like!

Exactly where in Denmark did you say?

Shadowwolf

Aldaris · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2009, 09:41:46 PM »

Me and some fellow LARPers actually considered going to one of those cons... maybe two years back or so? The story was a border clash between the Empire and Brettonia. We ended up not going, but liking the pictures we saw after the event. Same now. Looks like a real nice series of Battlecons you have going there!

What kind of spears do you use? The points look pretty small. Do you allow stabbing with them?

Thomas Aagaard · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2009, 09:55:05 PM »

It was held in "Tornby klitplantage" at the coast just south of Hirtshals.
(bespite of this allmost 1/3 of the players was from sjælland)

Spears:
Offcause we allow stabbing with them, that is how you use a spear...
For spears they have to be padded 30cm/one foot below the head.
For helbards it have to be down to you front hand.

(its allso allowed to stap with swords and daggerts)

I know that most gernam larpers think its way to dangerous to allow stabbing... but this larp had 450 persons fighting a lot... and there was no serious injuries because of fighting.
(serious=broken bones or other damage... not counting cuts and bruises, thats part of the fun...
We did have a person break a leg... but that was during a westlingmatch...)

Aldaris · « **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2009, 10:08:54 PM »

Oh, I'm actually in favor of allowing stabbing, but that's a minority opinion here. Most organizers are over-obsessed with safety. I hear in most British Larps the head is a legitimate target, and they don't get killed there either... In fact, it might actually promote a better kind of fighting. Since the head is a no-hit zone here, many do not protect it at all and lean forward, going for the legs of the opponent. Looks like shit, but is a smart move under these rules as the legs are generally harder to defend. Never mind it would be mind-bogglingly stupid in a real fight leaving ones head open to go for the other guys legs...

Hagen_von_Loewenstein · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2009, 12:08:51 AM »

Quote from: patsy02 on May 21, 2009, 01:15:10 AM

Where are all the skulls and inbreeds?

It's Denmark, not Texas.

I'm surprised there's so many people that actually larp a Warhammer-scenario instead of Tolkien or "generic fantasy" where every second player is a 6-foot-dwarf or an overweight elf and the "orcs" actually don't need any masks...

That being said, the pictures look really intriguing, and 450 people sounds like you could stage some actual battles - do you have spectators as well or just players and "officials"? Wouldn't mind watching one of those "live" one day.

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Author Topic: My Stirland army, 1361 IC civilwar period (larp pictures) (Read 16232 times)