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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Tournament List and Scenarios
« Last post by commandant on March 27, 2024, 10:19:21 PM »
It would also mean that drilled cav with counter charge can spread out which is a nice visual
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Do pigeonn bombs require los?
« Last post by commandant on March 27, 2024, 10:17:27 PM »
Does it not normally say if you need line of sight to target with special weapons or does it normally say if you don't?
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Elf meta in mighty empires
« Last post by Footpatrol2 on March 27, 2024, 09:58:39 PM »
First time in this group. I think we challenge them play a game. So you pick a point level then just play a game get empire points.

Ya I think a rocket battery would be a little kinder then mortars. Easier to blame the dice. Less feel bad.
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Another Lance and FBIGO discussion
« Last post by Hoffa on March 27, 2024, 09:37:16 PM »
@Minsc. I almost agree. The part of the faq that is causing the problems is this

"In other words, the combat is ongoing"

Before this "everyone" thought that combat after FBIGO was a new combat that stared on combat round 1. This part of the faq changed it so that combat after FBIGO is not a new combat and instead the old combat continues with another round.

The dumb thing is that this is written as answer to a question about changing weapons when it has such a big impact on other things.  Almost as if the person writing the faq only meant it to be about changing weapons but wrote it in a way that made it effect everything that requires "first round of combat". On top of this it caused more problem as it made the rules for lances* unclear due to the odd wording.

*As mentioned lance rules are cut and paste and written for a game were charges only could happen in the first combat round (Argh this whole mess is stupid!) Why couldn't they cut and paste from 6:th or 7:th edition instead. Those rules are both clearer than the 8:th edition version and would cause zero issue with the faq.
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Do pigeonn bombs require los?
« Last post by Clymer on March 27, 2024, 09:35:35 PM »
It's weird that you wouldn't need line of sight, but maybe that's the case here?

The way that is worded, the target definitely does not need to be in the engineer's front arc, so maybe that's another point in favor of the no-LOS-required interpretation?
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Tournament List and Scenarios
« Last post by Clymer on March 27, 2024, 09:32:33 PM »
That's an interesting perspective, thanks for pointing that out.

That paragraph about maneuvering during a charge begins, "Unless stated otherwise..." I think Drilled states otherwise. In any case, the Drilled redress does not take place during the charge. It takes place "immediately before moving". It seems pretty straight forward to me, but I've had to back pedal on other positions. If something more convincing comes up, I'm all ears, but it seems pretty clear that Drilled works before the charge and that's what was intended, otherwise it's nearly pointless.
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Tournament List and Scenarios
« Last post by Skyros on March 27, 2024, 09:24:05 PM »
And it seems like his performance is entirely reliant upon TO's allowing the 'drilled before charges' ruling.

Why wouldn't they? Drilled says you get the free redress immediately before moving. Why wouldn't you get it immediately before moving chargers?

That's my opinion as well. Seems pretty straightforward. But other people, ignoring that special rules trump general rules, will point out that the general rule that says you aren't allowed to do other moves if you are charging.
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Empire Crafts and Skills / Re: Random 10mm Terrain Pieces
« Last post by Mike Stockin on March 27, 2024, 09:23:32 PM »
Thanks, yeah I am slowly, very slowly working toward a walled city..  I suspect it could be 5 years away...   :P
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Tournament List and Scenarios
« Last post by commandant on March 27, 2024, 09:16:24 PM »
It also depends on what else is in his list.   If the opponent deploys further back then you can just wait to pull off your nonsense for a turn while the opponent (or yourself) move forwards.
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The Old World Cometh Again !!! / Re: Do pigeonn bombs require los?
« Last post by commandant on March 27, 2024, 09:14:26 PM »
I would imagine no in that case.
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