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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9175 on: August 31, 2015, 08:10:36 AM »
incoming heresy alert!

I never played them when new, and never got into them when trying to play them later.

fo3 and NV much better.

Just when I was starting to come around to the "Finlay is a handsome, smart, interesting man" viewpoint, you confess that you never played Fallout 1 and 2. I'VE KILLED PEOPLE FOR LESS FINLAY!
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9176 on: August 31, 2015, 09:35:21 AM »
Worse,  I said I played them and didn't like them!
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« Reply #9177 on: August 31, 2015, 10:04:41 AM »
Worse,  I said I played them and didn't like them!
I'll be honest, if it wasn't for the Nostalgia value I get from playing them I probably wouldn't like them either.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9178 on: August 31, 2015, 11:07:14 AM »
Worse,  I said I played them and didn't like them!
I'll be honest, if it wasn't for the Nostalgia value I get from playing them I probably wouldn't like them either.

Man, you are really getting shortlisted for the 2015 WE deathball awards this way!
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9179 on: August 31, 2015, 01:36:47 PM »
Not a lot of games age well, really.
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« Reply #9180 on: August 31, 2015, 02:30:09 PM »
Not a lot of games age well, really.

Not if you are focused on graphics rather than playability. I have a friend who would ignore games simply because "Eww you can see the pixels." Literally what he said.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9181 on: August 31, 2015, 02:35:21 PM »
Worse,  I said I played them and didn't like them!

They've certainly didn't aged well.
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« Reply #9182 on: August 31, 2015, 05:04:39 PM »
I wouldn't agree with that. The graphics are standard for the time, as is the (for todays standards) "clunkyness" of the interface. the setting and writing are still excellent.

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« Reply #9183 on: August 31, 2015, 05:44:56 PM »
I wouldn't agree with that. The graphics are standard for the time, as is the (for todays standards) "clunkyness" of the interface. the setting and writing are still excellent.

True but combat mechanics (an important part of all Fallout games) and a few quests are really iffy.
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« Reply #9184 on: August 31, 2015, 06:09:56 PM »
Sadly I have to agree that setting and writing isn't enough - those I can get from a book. A game is to be played, and since newer games invariably have more streamlined interfaces and clearer graphics (pretty isn't really important, but it's nice to see a key and know it's a key, rather than hoping a couple of yellow pixels is a key) once you're used to them it's hard to go back.

Games where none of that matters last better than others. Mario is a good example.

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« Reply #9185 on: August 31, 2015, 06:32:24 PM »
True but combat mechanics (an important part of all Fallout games) and a few quests are really iffy.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that I think.  :wink: I like the combat mechanics and the quests for the vast majority. It's a pretty open world, almost any quest can be solved in a multitude of ways, almost every major choice you make is acknowledged at the end (and often impacts the game world heavily), and a multitude of playstyles are viable and often offer vastly different experiences (for example, your dialogue choices are influenced by your intelligence stat - if that is too low you'll basically play a caveman almost incapable of speech, and be reacted to appropriately). It also doesn't take itself too seriously, despite having some pretty dark shit in it.
The interface is serviceable IMO. It's not great by todays standards, but definitely not terrible. For some that's a dealbreaker, for some (like me) it isn't. Hell, Baldurs Gate also has some really annoying shit like the clumsy inventory system, and sometimes it's hard to spot stuff on the floor - and yet I can still play that game and enjoy it for what it is, despite its age-related shortcomings.

Just my opinion of course. YMMV.

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« Reply #9186 on: August 31, 2015, 06:41:20 PM »
Actually the interface, bot for items and skills, is really good. I like the multi approach to various problems, but some things irk me. Most of the quests are pointless and generally do not immerse me in the gameplay. New Reno and NCR are great examples. Your teammates are really hard to manage (give Marcus the Bozar, I dare you) and their interactions also vary. Cassidy is almost a mute, discharging simple one liners, while Sulik is the most interesting companion out there, Gorris too. Combat is lackluster, to say the least. No crouch, no going prone? Really? Would it be that hard to code those things in the game? Jagged Alliance 2 came roughly at the same time and it had a lot of customisation options for your gear. In Fallouts there is almost none.

These are still great games, but I think they should be remebered more for what they did to the genre overall, then what they were individually. Solid stuff, but a bit dusty. Personally I like Fallout: Tactics more. It also has a great story (tough with less NPC interaction) combined with a very good combat mechanics and improved vehicle handling. ;)
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9187 on: August 31, 2015, 06:55:02 PM »
The combat and ui for me.

In terms of graphics, definitely agree it's about visibility.  Planes Cape and dungeon master, can't see anything!

Games that have aged well,  baldurs gate 2 and tie fighter
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9188 on: September 01, 2015, 07:45:06 AM »
Not a lot of games age well, really.

Not if you are focused on graphics rather than playability.
Both in playability and graphics. Don't tell me Pac-Man is amusing for more than 30 seconds.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9189 on: September 01, 2015, 07:51:24 AM »
I got that Sega collection for the xbox.

Shining Force still rocks. :::cheers:::

(Also, I'm pretty certain 90% of the Nintendo franchise never gets old.)
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« Reply #9190 on: September 01, 2015, 09:23:57 AM »
September 15th: Destiny, taken king
October 27th: Halo 5
November 11: fallout 4
November 19th: Star Wars Battlefront
December 4th: Xenoblade Chronicles
February 5th: Xcom 2
February 23rd: New Deus Ex 2

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« Reply #9191 on: September 01, 2015, 01:30:04 PM »
I completed Dead Rising 2 last night. With completed I mean that I got 100% completion, got all achievements :) finally. Now on to DBZ xenoverse, then Diablo 3 :)
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9192 on: September 01, 2015, 04:34:56 PM »
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided look so damn good. Same goes for Vermintide.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #9193 on: September 01, 2015, 04:58:11 PM »
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided look so damn good. Same goes for Vermintide.
I loved the last Deus Ex game.

and FO, and Xcom.

Those are the ones I'm probably most excited for.
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« Reply #9194 on: September 01, 2015, 05:00:50 PM »
Street Fighter V and the new Deus Ex for me.

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« Reply #9195 on: September 02, 2015, 03:22:18 PM »
Not a lot of games age well, really.

Not if you are focused on graphics rather than playability.
Both in playability and graphics. Don't tell me Pac-Man is amusing for more than 30 seconds.

The Legend of Zelda - Windwaker has aged very well. People knocked the cell-shading, but I think it has made it almost timeless for 3D.
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« Reply #9196 on: September 03, 2015, 01:43:03 PM »
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The Legend of Zelda - Windwaker has aged very well.
Definitely. How well graphics age is more to do with art direction than tech. The PS1 Crash games all still look good as well.
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« Reply #9197 on: September 03, 2015, 03:29:01 PM »
Not a lot of games age well, really.

Not if you are focused on graphics rather than playability.
Both in playability and graphics. Don't tell me Pac-Man is amusing for more than 30 seconds.

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« Reply #9199 on: September 04, 2015, 05:19:53 PM »
Holding off judgment until I see more. Dead Rising's beautiful trailer had me preorder it, and it was fun, but nowhere near the quality the trailer had made me believe.
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