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Imperial Artisans ... The Painters, Crafters & Writers Guilds => The Brush and Palette => Topic started by: bakalla on December 12, 2009, 12:57:22 PM
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Greetings! :::cheers:::
I converted this captain mounted on a pegasus a long time ago, about a year ago. I used a bretonian pegasus as you can see and the legs of a bretonian pegasus knight, the body of an empire knight and the head and banner from the flagellants sprue. I painted him up during the last few days and i'm quite happy with how he turned out now that he's finished, so i thought i'd share him with all of you. Let me know what you think! :::cheers:::
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/empirecaptasushawkeyetheoneeyed.jpg)
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I think the Pegasus looks a bit too ornate for the flagellant-type captain. Other than that, great work as usual.
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All good! I like the slightly injured pegasus captain with the field repaired banner. See diferent story different fluff. Were you planning on putting the green wyvern on the banner as well and maybe the barding shield? I think it would look awesome.
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This guy is really vibrant. Great job
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Yeah, I love the Vibrant colors also.
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You have a very old school approach to painting, particuarly evident on the reds, bright green on the shield and flesh tone. I like it alot!
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Both these models are from the mid 80's, painted for my ever growing empire force. I painted these simultaneously for a completely coherent look so that the opponent will easily recognize these on the tabletop as my army's fire wizards.
The model on the left comes from an old beginner's set of RPG adventurers and the right model is an ancient Gandalf model from Citadel's old Lord of the rings line... I hope you like them!
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/empire2firewizards2.jpg)
Up next on my painting table is a General on Griffon! A mighty model with very un-mighty performance in the game.. none the less he has to be painted and i will try him in a couple of games before i dismiss him completely...
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Beautiful work, I like bright colours. Which province is he from ? (say Sylvania say Sylvania say)
:eusa_clap:
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Beautiful work, I like bright colours. Which province is he from ? (say Sylvania say Sylvania say)
:eusa_clap:
I'm still not completely decided on the fluff of my army so i can't say fore sure where he's from. But many of my models are black/red, dark yet colourful and Sylvania has been in my mind. So... he's from Sylvania! :wink: I actually came up with the colour scheme for my army while looking through a Vampire Counts army book rather than the empire book. I like them to look not 100% conventional but slightly different, but i think it suits Sylvania in most respects. (my army also contains purple, green and some other strong colours...)
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Your hero on Pegasus certainly looks like a vampire with that pale skin. It would be fitting that they are from Sylvania.
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Your hero on Pegasus certainly looks like a vampire with that pale skin. It would be fitting that they are from Sylvania.
WAsh out your mouth with soap !!!!!!
Not every imperial citizen living in Sylvania is a vampire you know....some Sylvanians heroicly fight back against the denizens of the night, holding back a tide that has drowned the surrounding provinces in the past :icon_exclaim:
Bakalla...woohoo..... good choice :)
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Didn't say everyone from Sylvanian is a Vampire, but there were a couple. His hero still looks more like a vampire than a living human to me.
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My Sylvanian (!!) general of the empire on his mighty griffon! Behold, the empire's weakest general :-D I'm going to try him out in a couple of games, but i haven't got very high hopes for him. I love the model though! I think it's a pretty nice center piece for the army, even though he's not very mighty gameplay wise...
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/empiregriffongeneralsm.jpg)
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I like the latest model, good work on the mount. Didn't like the first one as much, too multicoloured for my personal tastes.
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Beautiful models Bakalla. Choosing the Sylvanian colours is quite unique - I love how they are turning out. Most impressed by your captasus, although I can't wash the bretonnian taste from my mouth still (sorry 'bout breaking the joke here). Amazing griffon general! Please tell us how he did in battle, I always have this romantic image of the guy breaking enemy elite in two, probably way unrealistic :blush:
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These are two old metal models from the Talisman game, i'm using them for my empire army :)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/empire2rogues.jpg)
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I love the griffon general. You don't see enough griffons these days, especially a classic one like that.
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I am a SUPER-FAN of Talisman!
Me (and particularly 2 other friends) have been playing it since we were about 15 years old!
I have also been making several expansions, that can be found on www.talismanisland.com and www.randomdice.com My name there is Thomas Erix
I just love thoise Talisman minis!!! Keep´em coming! Gona paint mine too one day, but I only have the new ones..
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Amazing models! The colours are extremely striking.
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Very nice colours :eusa_clap:
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I like the idea of the Sylvanian army, would it be a retrospective army though?
The general on griffon is fantastic, this might be a stupid question but where did his head come from? I want one!
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I just love thoise Talisman minis!!! Keep´em coming! Gona paint mine too one day, but I only have the new ones..
Good to hear you like Talisman! The miniatures are incredibly nice, imho. They're so old and full of character, i wish i could collect all of them. I've only got one apart from these two though, and that's the "Swashbuckler". I guess i will paint him soon too, but i'm busy painting some halberdiers now...
The general's head.. the general is a metal knight, so i didn't exchange his head. It's a classic "knight of the blazing order" or something like that, a banner bearer. I cut off his banner and gave him a plastic sword. I'm glad you like him! I still haven't tried him in a game though, i've heard griffons are pretty apalling in a game...
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Nice idea of your army colours. I like your painting and and especially the Griffin general, don t be pessimistic about him in your games, after a few disasters and horrible loses you will learn how to use him and he will be really usefull to you, believe me, I use a griffin general quite often.
Also, where can I find these metal knights, eBay?
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Nice idea of your army colours. I like your painting and and especially the Griffin general, don t be pessimistic about him in your games, after a few disasters and horrible loses you will learn how to use him and he will be really usefull to you, believe me, I use a griffin general quite often.
Also, where can I find these metal knights, eBay?
Thanks for the comments! I will try the griffon in a few games - i do love the model so it would be nice to see if i could make it work in the game as well..
I got mine from eBay, i believe they're 5th edition models but i'm not sure.
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U can see all knights of the Blazing sun in this post.
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32686.msg488236#msg488236 (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32686.msg488236#msg488236)
keep up the good work :::cheers:::
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Nice :icon_biggrin: Thanks
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I am attending a tournament in a couple of weeks. The empire has been my favourite army for a long time, and it's the only army where i have enough models to field a 2250 point army. So i will play the empire. I've been thinking a lot about the tournament, and whether to play a fun army or a more competitive army. In the end i decided to field this army, which i consider to be a fun army. It's got very little shooting, little magic and only one warmachine... the steam tank. The gryphon is something i've never seen used in a game, so i'm sure that will shock some of my opponents!
I had some other units i wanted to add to the army for strategic reasons, like a unit of handgunners, but in the end i decided against it and went for esthetic choices all the way - just picking the most interesting models and best painted models i have in my collection.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/00wholearmy1.jpg)
The entire army in all it's empirical glory. It's hard to take a photo of so many models at once.. What you see here is what's in the actual 2250 point army: the gryphon general, the steam tank, 20 flagellants, 19 greatswords with 9 halberdiers detachment and a BSB on foot, 25 free company, 2x5 knights with full command, 2 wizards, 10 crossbowmen and 10 huntsmen!
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/01griffongeneral.jpg)
The general on gryphon. Truly weak in the game but a truly great model! I've tried to match his shield design and helmet design throughout the army to tie the army together a little bit.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/02wizards.jpg)
2 battle wizards of fire.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/03greatswords.jpg)
19 greatswords with full command and a BSB on foot, 9 halberdiers detachment. The unit consists mostly of old metal models, and even a gnome and a ninja!
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/04flagellants.jpg)
20 flagellants with a prophet of doom, all metal models from the 6th edition.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/05freecompany.jpg)
My favourite unit in the army... There are 25 models in the unit, the flagellant in the front row is the standard bearer, next to the rogue champion, next to the cannon crew singer (musician). Most of these models are old citadel models, a prophet from talisman, rogues from talisman, johann the knife from mordheim, some flagellants from mordheim etcetera, etcetera.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/06knights1.jpg)
5 knights with full command (i know it's weird to give 5 regular knights command, but it looks good and feels cool, and gives them a little extra punch...)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/07knights2.jpg)
5 more knights with Luthor as the champion.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/08crossbows.jpg)
10 crossbowmen with full command... Same thing here, i know it's weird to give them a command group, but it looks cool. The models are all metal, some marksmen of margliano (dogs of war) and some other, very old citadel models.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/09huntsmen.jpg)
10 skirmishing huntsmen with a tiny, tiny halfling leading them, backed up by Legolas from the old LotR range and a samurai archer... though my favourite model is probably the bearded guy with the crossbow.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/10steamtank.jpg)
The old metal 6th edition steam tank, for throwing at my opponent if everything else goes wrong...
I hope you like it! :-D
I'm thinking about removing the Gryphon lord and the BSB from the list and exchanging them for a War Altar and a captain on pegasus, and make the knights inner circle. It would make the list a LOT more powerful i think... any thoughts?
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What a fantastic army! Great to see all those older miniatures too.
I'd keep the griffon - giant chickens of doom are much more fun than priest wagons.
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Great old minis!
Is that a ninja mixed in with the great swords, pure awesome!!!
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Cool army you have there, free company just awesome :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
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Great old minis!
Is that a ninja mixed in with the great swords, pure awesome!!!
Thanks... Yes, the ninja is dressed in green and in the back row of the greatswords, ready to furiously (and invisibly) leap at any kind of enemy with his giant katana! (and shurikens...)
I probably will keep the gryphon in the list, i agree that he's a lot more fun and interesting choice than the standard war altar.
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I love these old school guys ...very cool :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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memories, ahhhhhhh! now I will have to go to my dungeon and oopen old boxes. steveb
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I made a display board for my army. I'm attending a tournament next weekend, not hoping to win a lot of games but hoping to get a lot of points for my painting :-D
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/bakalla/11empirearmydisplayed.jpg)
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Well if you don't get any points, I may as well give up now.
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Wow.... just fantastic. One of my WE top 20.
1. Paint scheme
2. Complete Army presented w/ Board
3. Good Army Photos
4. Fantastic use of old miniatures
5. Love for the army.
6. Theme and lack of gun line.
Sir, you have balls. All the power to you and best of luck.
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Wow.... just fantastic. One of my WE top 20.
1. Paint scheme
2. Complete Army presented w/ Board
3. Good Army Photos
4. Fantastic use of old miniatures
5. Love for the army.
6. Theme and lack of gun line.
Sir, you have balls. All the power to you and best of luck.
Thank you very much, those points are actually the reasons why i like my own army as well. I've painted it purely for the fun of it, because i love the models, especially the older models. I really do like the way the army has turned out, particularly the fact that it has very little shooting and/or magic... it's more fun to play the empire without outriders, twin cannons and 10 dice of magic, belive me! :::cheers:::
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Wow nice army, Bakalla, wish i could get mine painted to that standard. Of course i can paint nids well, but i suck at painting humans. I like the six'th ED Stank as well, dont see those old models anymore.
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:eusa_clap: Very nice looking indeed! The colors are nice and bright without looking "cartoony". I love the paint job on the gryphon, very realistic looking.
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This army is the BLAST! I especially like your Johann the Knife model your painting skill is astounding.
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Wow! :icon_biggrin:
How did I miss this before? :icon_eek:
This really looks quite stunning wiht all the older models and the color scheme is wonderful. :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
Please report back and let us know how you did, ok?
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This really looks quite stunning wiht all the older models and the color scheme is wonderful. :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
Please report back and let us know how you did, ok?
Thanks! The tournament starts tomorrow so i'll let you know how it goes. I have rediculously high hopes for my general - he and his griffon will charge directly at any enemy generals, especially those mounted on dragons... :ph34r:
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Okay, the tournament is over and i'm generally very happy with how it went. I got nominated for best painted army! I didn't win best painted though, but it was pretty close. My general on gryphon wasn't as bad as i thought he would be, he actually contributed quite a bit in most of the games and only died in 2 out of 5 games. The gryphon is hard to play well, but it's not entirely bad i think...
Anyway, i had 5 games - the tournament uses scenarios and ETC like army restrictions. Each game has 20 points in total divided among the two players.
Game 1 was against a very tough VC army, so i was happy only losing by 6-14. In this game my free company unit got charged in the flank by a unit of fell bats and a flying vampire on nightmare and i ended up beating them by static combat resolution - killing the vampire! The free company were actually very good in all of the games...
Game 2 was against a tough Dark Elves list, but it was a hold objectives scenario so i managed to win 12-8, thanks to my free company staying out of his charge reach and holding the objectives.
Game 3 was me against Lizardmen, a very good game that ended up 9-11 in his favour. My gryphon general charged a skink priest on stegadon with engine of the gods in this game and managed to stay alive until the last turn and killing his only wizard (the skink) in the second turn of the game, so he was very useful.
Game 4 was against Wood Elves. He had a pretty solid list but wasn't a very experienced player (i assume). It was another take and hold objective scenario and i managed to win 20-0 in the end. My inner circle knights were crazy in this game! They destroyed a tree man quite easily (i got the charge) and killed dryads like they were nothing. My general got killed by his general in this game but in that very same turn of combat my gryphon struck back and needed 6's to hit (because of annoyance of nettlings) and i rolled a triple 6! So i did 3 hits and 3 wounds and he didn't manage to save any of them - so his general killed my general but the gryphon took instant revenge! The gryphon then rolled on the monster reaction table and became unbreakable (and unmovable) for the rest of the game, which was pretty favourable for me.
Game 5 was against an insanely hard Daemons of Chaos list... I felt pretty bad against this match up and i was certain it would end up a complete massacre in his favour. He had 4 fiends, two units of 6 flesh hounds, a big block of plague bearers with herad, 2 khorne heralds, 5 flamers etcetera. I managed to play pretty well though, keeping his fiends at bay with my gryphon and diverting his other units with my knights and my huntsmen (!), so in the end i lost 6-14 which i'm very happy about considering the difference in power levels between our two armies.
In the end i got 53 victory points out of 100, which i'm very happy about considering the softness of my army. I got 28 out of 30 possible painting score which i'm also pretty happy about and i had five very nice games and had fun with a soft list while proving that the gryphon general is not completely useless... :ph34r:
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Very nice tournament played then!!
Gives me hope for my 2000pt plus lists when I want to field a griffon general myself as I just love the old griffon model!
That and I don't have a WAltar nor will get one soon.
Best thing that I read was you having fun and almost winning the painting competition!! Very good!