Author Topic: Overall Strategy/Mission Statement (Read 5636 times)

wissenlander · « **on:** May 09, 2007, 03:54:31 PM »

We need one. I don't know what else to say. We're starting to chime in with regional strategies, but that's not going to help if we don't have an umbrella strategy.

Someone with a map and a greater understanding of the campaign should do this. Basically this should be the place where we really discuss our mission statement.

Dendo Star · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2007, 04:20:19 PM »

Defeat any Dark Forces that pierce our borders in search of the Crown. Protect our lands, guard our people!

Destroy the Crown. Or, failing this, prevent the Crown from going into the wrong hands by locking it within the either the Altdorf vaults, the Dwarfen Holds or the Great Temple Cities of the Old Ones. Do not allow the Crown to pervade the world with it's evil. It must not be used in any way and should be treated as the dangerous toxic relic it is.

Assist any Dwarf, Lizardmen, Athel Loren or High Elf force that is trying to protect the Crown from the forces of Chaos. If we do not get to the Crown first it must be defended from evil at all costs.

Ansel · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:35:33 PM »

As reports from our information specialists (spies; you would think we have a network) begin pouring in from in and around our borders, there is troubling activity of massing armies. We have connected this activity with rumors of the Nemesis Crown. A general state of lockdown has been mandated as armies begin to be positioned across the Empire. Keenly aware of the threat, Karl Franz has ordered the security at the outward borders tightened and for all able bodied men to stand at the ready to fight. We must hold our own and repell the invaders. The Nemesis Crown, as the source of the conflict, must be found.

(OOC: That's my input.)

Jerok · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2007, 02:53:24 AM »

The current Mission Statement is as follows...

1) Defend the Empire - Our group was raised Primarily to Defend the Empire
a) We are to choose sites to take as a heavily fortified position in each Region. Everyone in the region posts this as being the HQ and it being constantly defended and fortified.
b) Branching Out to Secondary Positions, we are clearing the forest from around these andthe Roads.
2) Allies - THe Empire needs her friends, and so we will post as few battles as possible against Dwarfs and HE/WE. While we shall currently not have a formal alliance, we acknowledge the Empires need
a) For posting purposes, including things like Allying with Dwarfs in Doubles battles etc. along with mentions of specific forces working together (friend's armies) would suit nicely.
3. Purge the Unclean - The Great Forest is a Haven to Evil, Burn It
a) We have recieved orders to Purge any area which is deemed unclean by two or more Priests of an sect. As such doing scenarios where you are attacking work fine, including rules for torching stuff is better.

Veldemere · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:28:54 AM »

I still think even the reduced scorched earth policy is unrealistic. The Empire is not like the modern world with small isolated woodlands, almost every wooded area is a large forest, you are talking about 'controlled' burnings of areas of hundreds of square miles. Any right thinking person from GW will look at this and laugh thus demeaning any of our other fluff. I thought we were agreed to just clear the woodlands either side of principal transport routes and around any town or fortification.

wissenlander · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2007, 11:49:18 AM »

Rooting out beasties is no problem, but Veldemere does have a good point. How can we have a controlled burn? Does anyone have ideas?

The Hunters of Sigmar can help in this role, as can huntsmen. Any other units that can work well in the woods that I'm forgetting?

Dendo Star · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2007, 01:27:13 PM »

Pyromancers, I figure, can use magic to controll forest fires.

As dangerous and stupid as it sounds, I think we can actually burn the areas we need.

I also vote we post Jerok's mission statement as official. I also say we post copies on all the other Race's forums, at least the good ones - High Elves, Dwarfs, Wood Elves, Lizardmen, even Brets and Dogs Of War.

Edit! Jerok, can you add my "Protect our lands. Guard our people!" part? It's from the new Warhammer RTS videogame and the main character of the Empire says it all the time. I found it cool and very stirring.

wissenlander · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2007, 01:47:49 PM »

The orcs will be wanting to burn a lot, so we need to be careful not to let that play into their hands.

I'm down for posting our mission statement on the other forums, but I'll probably hold off on that until I get the green light.

Dendo Star · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2007, 01:50:38 PM »

Cool.

I Just had the funniest thought.

What if the big WAAAAAAAAAAAGH comes into our territory all ready to go bat-loco and set fire to everything...and the whole area was already burnt down?

Oh man, what would they do?

cisse · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2007, 02:51:25 PM »

Well, burning forests may seem a little bad to the woodies... But on the other hand, they've not been that friendly towards us anyway, so light up those torches!

A controlled burn isn't that hard, you just have to take into account the direction from where the wind is blowing, dig some trenches and clear the trees around those.

Veldemere · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:03:10 PM »

Believe me the only thing I think is good about the scorched earth policy is that it wil p*** off the woodies, after having dealt with them I am ready to have a campfire in Athel Loren (pass the black powder).

wissenlander · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:08:25 PM »

I'm glad we're on the same side in this fight Veldemere.

Dendo Star · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:19:45 PM »

Any chance we could ask Wood Elves for help against the Beastmen?

If not, then burn baby burn!

General Romanov · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:26:17 PM »

To true wissenlander. Ask Wood Elves to kill Beastmen? Where have you been hiding, the woodies hate the buggers and would attack on sight! We could tell them where they are or "accidentally" lead the beastmen to the woodies boarders.

wissenlander · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:29:35 PM »

Veldy actually tried to get them to agree on killing the beastmen, but they felt as though that wasn't enough to form an alliance since we both already do that.

Dendo Star · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:34:41 PM »

In that case, I'm going to go aim my Doomfire Ring at some trees!

Captain Tineal · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:20:35 PM »

I think we should set up something like a Maginot (sp?) line, like after WW2 along Dwarf territory. They don't have the mobility or numbers to shift us if we're dug in and defended. And if they plan on giving away our turf, and breaking oaths, they better come get it!

Dendo Star · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »

I think we should "ignore" the Dwarfs and High Elves, for now. That way we can concentrate on the true treats - SKaven, Greenskins and all those wonderful monkeys.

Damn fluff vs. reality!

wissenlander · « **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:25:13 PM »

It's a good plan, the only thing is is that we're bogged down in the forest.

The area boxed off is where the campaign will take place.

Sherminator1 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:07:46 PM »

As far as I'm concerned we should put this place to the torch. To hell with the woodies.

Dendo Star · « **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:14:36 PM »

Well, since I'm heading for that monolith first, I leave it to you guys.

I don't care if there forest is there when I get back or a pile of ashes.

All I care about is you guys being there when I get back! Still living of course - an Undead version of you doesn't count.

I just want everyone to make it through this alive...

Gneisenau · « **Reply #21 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Captain Tineal on May 10, 2007, 06:20:35 PM

I think we should set up something like a Maginot (sp?) line, like after WW2 along Dwarf territory. They don't have the mobility or numbers to shift us if we're dug in and defended. And if they plan on giving away our turf, and breaking oaths, they better come get it!

Good thinking, but can it be done? Campaign-wise, I mean. It would mean to shut the dwarfs completely from the territory that is to be fought over, which somewhat questions the mechanism of this campaign as a whole.

But it would be a viable strategy:

- The best invasion route for the dwarfs leads through Stirland and Averland, as marching armies through the woods is not much fun. There are many well-fortified cities there. Plus, as the Captain has noted, they are small in numbers, which means they are vulnerable to hit-and-run attacks on the open ground. In reality (

), aiming for the campaign area without the approval of the Empire would be downright suicidal.

- If the wood elfs want to be against us, fine - reinforcements from Athel Loren would have a very hard time reaching the area.

- The same goes for the brets. Really, this map (thanks, wissenlander!) displays perfectly why it would be so much better for these two to side with us.

- The seaside is vulnerable, as it has been ever since Marienburg left the Empire (what about your influence there, Grutch?). I think Marienburg should somehow be involved in this. Having them on our side would shorten the coastal line prone to an invasion considerably. Both Lizardmen and High Elves have to come this way.

- Again, in "reality", allying with High Elves and Lizardmen would be a stupid move for the dwarves, as it will be hard to make any concerted actions with them. Empire troops could prevent this easily.

But I fear it's all hypothetical, since GW won't be interested in large strategies from us.

wissenlander · « **Reply #22 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:43:18 PM »

Good overall strategic breakdown Gneisenau, but you're right. Everyone's there and figthing in the woods.

Jerok · « **Reply #23 on:** May 10, 2007, 10:18:45 PM »

I believe you guys are thinking to REAL here.

We can't draw a line on the map and say WE ARE HERE! Remember, we have people scattered across the map. I'll be organizing the forum and posting up the Region-Based objectives I made while doing the large Booklet thing.

clausewitz · « **Reply #24 on:** May 10, 2007, 10:42:28 PM »

Hi Folks, about time I chipped in to the strategic discussions.

Regarding the Maginot Line idea; I must disagree with this as a viable strategy. My historic namesake gives dire warnings regarding such "cordon" defenses. It goes against one of the most important strategic concepts: that of concentration of forces.

Spreading ones forces along a cordon invites the enemy to concentrate his strength and break through at key points, rendering the cordon useless. And with enemies arriving from various places and directions, and a very large area to cover, makes this a very weak choice of strategy.

And lets face it: historically the Maginot Line did not fare well...

I do agree that we should occupy any existing fortifications, or where they are lacking find some suitable base of operations to fortify. The Empire as an army is more like a modern army than most in that we do need to worry about supplies such as ammunition. As such we will need a base of supply for each tactical theatre of operations. A strong fortress is also extremely valuable as a place to fall back to in the event of defeat in battle (or even a costly victory).

Perhaps some early battles (against any opponent really) could be reported as Empire forces taking/retaking such areas?

After that I would suggest that we might want to collect intelligence. We are trying to find something and information is key in such a quest.

Perhaps we should look to "interviewing" prisoners taken?

As for diplomacy: I must say I have been slightly dismayed at the lack of friendliness from the dwarves. That they have sent envoys to the Ogres, High Elves and Wood Elves before us is somewhat astounding. Based on this I'd say Karl Franz is quite right to object to their armed incursion.

I would have thought that the other "good" races would have been looking to politely ask permission to enter the Empire to look for the crown. Instead we armies from our allies acting more like a chaos incursion.

I would echo those that have indicated that the Empire needs to stand up for itself more firmly. We are treading on eggshells worrying about the status of the Grand Alliance, when it is our allies that threaten it by invasion of our sovereign lands. We should defend our lands against any invaders worry about our alliances later (once our allies have returned to their senses).

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Author Topic: Overall Strategy/Mission Statement (Read 5636 times)