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The Empire at War ... The Gamers Guild => WHFB The Electors' Forum => Topic started by: Oxycutor on May 02, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
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Just for info, the first of the Warhammer Legends Made to Orders is kicking off this weekend, so for a week you can pre-order some Dark Elf stuff.
Here is the blurb from the Warhammer Community site:
Warhammer Legends will be a new addition to the Warhammer Community site, providing a home to rules for classic miniatures from Games Workshop so you can continue to play with warriors, heroes and monsters from the world-that-was in your narrative and open play games. Alongside this, as new units are added, we’ll be giving you a chance to add them to your collections through a series of week-long Made to Order offers.
With the Daughters of Khaine and Idoneth Deepkin drawing on years of elven influences, we thought this inaugural Warhammer Legends would be a great time to revisit their origins and give you a chance to collect some fan-favourite Dark Elves from yesteryear.
In the first wave of Warhammer Legends Made to Order, you’ll find the classic iteration of Morathi – a great way for any Daughters of Khaine player to pay homage to where it all began – as well as a collection of Dark Elf heroes. Meanwhile, Mengil Manhide’s Manflayers are a much-requested unit from the old Dogs of War range who provide a gory spin on Scourge Corsairs, while Lokhir Fellheart pays homage to the nautical elements of the asur and druchii that would later be fully realised with the Idoneth Deepkin.
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Like all Made to Order waves, these Warhammer Legends will only be available for one week – so make sure to come back on Saturday so you don’t miss your chance!
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I don't think this will be very interesting for empire collectors, should it ever come to this - with the exception of the old blood bowl miniatures that they offered again a couple of months ago, they only seem to offer the newer (character) miniatures from 7th and 8th edition. So what will it be for us? The 'new' versions of Marius Leitdorf, Ludwig Schwarzhelm, Kurt Helborg and 3-4 champions/heros on foot. Probably in finecast resin again. Exciting.
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I don't think this will be very interesting for empire collectors, should it ever come to this - with the exception of the old blood bowl miniatures that they offered again a couple of months ago, they only seem to offer the newer (character) miniatures from 7th and 8th edition. So what will it be for us? The 'new' versions of Marius Leitdorf, Ludwig Schwarzhelm, Kurt Helborg and 3-4 champions/heros on foot. Probably in finecast resin again. Exciting.
You may be right, but then Mengil Manhide's is a bit older, and comments on the facebook page for requests there were a LOT for Teutogen Guard. We'll see how it goes, I guess if people ask for certain minis for Empire/ Freeguild there is more chance they might make them
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Well done GW, always mocking Warhammer players :dry:
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Alright; Manflayers. That'll be a nice addition to my small Dogs of war force
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Isn't that Morathi pretty old? I know most of the Empire requested stuff I saw was older models.
I'm pretty happy to see the Manflayers actually. I'll likely pick them up.
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Isn't that Morathi pretty old? I know most of the Empire requested stuff I saw was older models.
I'm pretty happy to see the Manflayers actually. I'll likely pick them up.
Indeed, Morathai is from 2001. She's always been popular with Dark elf players and collectors though
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I do like squidface, but would prefer metal.
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Lokhir the Squidface remains one of my favorite, 'hammer minis of all time.
Lovecraft would be proud.
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I got squidface long before I got any other dark elves, he was just that awesome.
I think most of it is metal isn't it? Wasn't most of the previous made to order metal?
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I got squidface long before I got any other dark elves, he was just that awesome.
I think most of it is metal isn't it? Wasn't most of the previous made to order metal?
His lore is godly. Very lovecraftian. Love it.
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Squidface is the zoidiest
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Lokhir is metal.
I think everything is metal.
To me this is a very good thing, can't really see a reason to complain - we're getting some old models back! I wonder if this is in any way related to the community poll they did some time ago.
As for new vs. old models - Mengil is 6th edition, so is Morathi. The previous Made to Orders for 40k had stuff from 3d edtion and even a reeeally old Farseer, (Rouge Trader?) so it's quite possible we will see some interesting stuff down the line. I am hyped for Empire, High Elves and Dwarves, gotta squirrel some money away for that.
The only downside is that the minis are more expensive, than the 40K equivalents. The Kasrkin they re-did some time ago were an absolute bargain, cheaper event than the current plastic scions. Mengil's Flayers are a bit more expensive but still vastly cheaper, than what evilbay has to offer.
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GW doing recasts of their own minis!
No seriously, does anybody know if the minis come from the original moulds, or if GW remoulds them before casting?
Because there was some speculation whether GW storaged all the moulds for the metal models they quit selling over the years.
-Z
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Teutogen Guard or Kislev. I'd love to do a unit of them--even an army themed around them--but they are SO expensive second hand.
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Teutogen Guard or Kislev. I'd love to do a unit of them--even an army themed around them--but they are SO expensive second hand.
This! THIS!👆👆
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I always dreamed about a classic Kislev army. Even have the mini-rulebook. :blush:
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I always dreamed about a classic Kislev army. Even have the mini-rulebook. :blush:
Same👆
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I think long and hard about collecting classic armies; Preatorians, Chaos dwarfs, Dogs of war and others. I don't as I have a mortgage and other commitments. Its such a hard thing to cope with.
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A new round of warhammer fantasy 'Made to Order' stuff comming up:
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Nothing empire related but I thought I'd stick it here. No idea about prices and a bit weird combination of miniatures truth be told.
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I always thougt it strange how quickly they discontinued the fat Ogre on a flood of Gnoblars. I thought it was a decent enough model, even if perhaps a little too horizontal.
Zacharias is refreshing to see.
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Always nice to see Zacharias back in stock, if only for a little while.
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Why is his dragon striking a 'dancing queen' pose though? I never could decipher what it's supposed to be doing!
I do like seeing Grom back, I might snatch him if he's not too expensive.
I'm kind of lost on the pattern they've adopted for bringing these old models back. I thought it was gonna be race-by-race. The first one was DE and now it's Tomb Kings, VC, greenskins and ogres.
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I'm still waiting for Empire minis to be available as Made to Order. Still waiting... :dry:
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Me too Xathrodox :x :ph34r:
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Up on GW web site today 14th July, only for 7 days.
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Next Warhammer Legends run is going to be dragons of the Old World. If you ever missed any of the Elf dragons, nows your chance.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/05/warhammer-legends-dragons-of-the-old-world/
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Is the high elf dragon just plastic with metal rider?
I always thought the wood elf dragon was a cool effort, but metal dragons like this suck. Would it be resin instead?
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I don't know how their doing it now, possibly resin. My buddy use to have the High Elf one and I believe it was all metal. Rider and dragon.
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Ok. I was most interested in the basic plastic dragon for potential conversions. I guess I would like a Wyvern alternative, because thats where my gap is... interesting to see these dragons though!
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All of the Made to Order stuff so far has been in the same material it was last sold in.
I got these during the End Times, so Imrik and Malekith are mostly plastic dragons, with metai riders, and metal parts for head, claws and end of the tail I think. The sisters will be all metal, apart from the wings, which will be plastic.
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@Warlord
If your having trouble assembling pewter models; I suggest Sulley's Quick fix super glue. Its dirt cheap and is better than GW's super glue
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Yeah, I have been using Shelley's for years.
They make a nice little 5m pippet that reseals really well, and lasts well too... available at Bunnings :)
My main dragon I take issue with is the old Metal Chaos Dragon with 2 heads - that thing was horrible to assemble and keep assembled.
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Gah, I hated all those same-y looking dragons. :eusa_sick:
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Yes; that was the downside to the larger pewter models; they were more often then not tricky to keep together.
The elf dragon I scored at the swap meet is the plastic one from 2008/9. Problem is not only are his wings broken but the previous owner tried to paint him using house paint and texta pens. I plan on repainting him into that Dogs of war Elf dragon prince guy [Asernal I think his name is]
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Asarnil the Dragon Lord, the biggest boss of all dragon princes. :icon_cool:
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Regret selling my Asarnil model years ago... rarely tempted by anything GW produce these days, but I'm astounded to find these are priced pretty well. If you've ever tried buying the Sisters of Twilight on ebay then £36 is a bargain!
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Next wave of made to order stuff is a whack of Brets and Empire. Their calling it the Champions of Justice and Order. Order starts Saturday September 8th.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/02/heroes-of-order-for-one-week-only/
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Not only will the models be up for order, they say they'll also put a Champions of Order PDF with updated rules to use them in Age of Sigmar for narrative games.
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So do we have to order those on line through their site?
And will these be in metal?
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Yeah I believe it all has to be ordered through their site. None of it's going to end up in stores. Oxycutor said early in August that the models are made in whatever material they were last made in. So some might be resin, some might be metal.
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Any idea of how much the two empire models will cost?
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Things so far have been pretty decent prices. Usually fairly close to what they cost last time they were for sale.
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Really cool to see those heroes again. I'm considering getting Ludwig as I don't have a mounted BSB model. Had they brought the Mad Count back, I would get him in an instant!
EDIT: then again he would be finecast probably. Bummer!
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Boo, 7th / 8th ed models is not far enough back.
That said, the Lionheart model is an excellent one, as is the Dwarf King.
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I need that dwarf king to represent Santa in my Xmas dwarf themed army
I also need that Fay enchantress for my Brets.
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Love the anvil and the throne
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Ooofff the prices on these characters! How come Ludwig costs almost as much as a dude on a Dragon? Nerdrage time!
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Really cool to see those heroes again. I'm considering getting Ludwig as I don't have a mounted BSB model. Had they brought the Mad Count back, I would get him in an instant!
EDIT: then again he would be finecast probably. Bummer!
I actually have the older (5th edition) Ludwig, you can buy him from me if you want.
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The prices for the empire characters are crazy. For the price of one of these, you can get 3 of the old ones on ebay.
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Ouch those prices are higher then I expected. I was interested in Thorgrim but he costs almost as much as a start collecting box.
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Insane prices :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
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Hmmm ... not that really important to me at those prices. Moving right along ...
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This will then reinforce de-prioritising humans and dwarves no doubt from any upcoming release cycles.
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That's an interesting thought.
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Took a look out of curiosity, and the prices don't seem surprising at all, at least on the US site. They seem just slightly more than typical similar minis or even the prices those were last sold for.
Not that I'd pay them, which is why I passed on them the first time around.
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Not that I'd pay them, which is why I passed on them the first time around.
Same. I bought my Ludwig when first released when it wasn’t quite as painful. I never understood why they were prices so expensive though. Though that applies for a lot of GW models nowdays.
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Some of the rank & file prices aren't bad. But the characters have been costly for a long time. They seem to be moving away from individual characters on foot or horse sized mount, though, and mostly doing giant beasts & "centerpiece" models for characters. Maybe they weren't selling a lot of $40 single models on horses...
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I wonder why?
Centerpiece characters are fun, but not very good for a strategy game IMO.
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Really cool to see those heroes again. I'm considering getting Ludwig as I don't have a mounted BSB model. Had they brought the Mad Count back, I would get him in an instant!
EDIT: then again he would be finecast probably. Bummer!
I actually have the older (5th edition) Ludwig, you can buy him from me if you want.
Thanks for the offer Konrad, but I am not a great fan of the old sculpt. Come to think of it I am not that big of a fan of the new sculpt either, I was just looking for an excuse to get a cool limited model for my army. But I really don't want it that badly, I would consider it if it would cost roughly half of what they are asking for it. Well....if I ever decide I can't live without it there's always eBay or those Russian guys who make OOP resin GW stuff (supposedly in better quality than GW itself).
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Oh my, not going to purchase Russian fakes!
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At least they are up-front with it I guess? The amount of re-casts sold on eBay as genuine GW products is high as it is.
EDIT: not that I encourage re-casting for sales purposes. More that buying oop stuff from ebay you are still likely to end up with a re-cast model.
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Hopefully those recasting get caught.
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I picked up Louen Leoncoeur as my Bret army needs some more love. He's not worth the points in 8th like most of the Bret Army :roll: but he looks great and is a centrepiece for my army at least.
Terrible prices as expected though :evil:
I still need 2 trebuchets, the Green Knight and the Grail-Reliquaes so hopefully they come back. I'm going to have to Kitbash the Questing and Grail Knights as there's no way I can afford their prices either second hand or recast :cry:
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Ebay is really that bad? Here in Poland, the Bretonnian second-hand figurines are really quite cheap. :engel:
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I've thumbed through some of my old white dwarfs from the 2012's, to see what was the price tag on those mounted heroes when they were converted to finecast from metal. Turns out the price was...the same! At least the Fay Enchantress and Kurt. Marius Leitdorf was the same price as Kurt, so I can imagine Ludwig was a bit more (haven't located him so far, he must be in WD 389 which I don't have).
I think we've all just forgotten how pricey these were back in the day. Kind of makes sense why I didn't pick up any of them.
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I don't mind the prices but I do mind that they have made them in finecast.
I would have bough the 2 bret models if they were pewter.
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I was thinking of adding Leon to my existing Bret army as the centrepiece then I realised if the Brets deserve ANYTHING as a centrepiece it should be a giant, wooden rabbit :happy:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2PdyxMtiYM
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The next lot of Made to Orders will be from next weekend 6th-12th October
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Isnt the large troll with the cape [cant remember his name] a relatively new model as he was made within the last 8-10 years. He seems like an odd choice for a 'Legends' choice
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Throgg The Troll King. He hasn't been around for 2.5 years, and there were a fair few people asking for him for Made to Order. He was around before Finecast, so that's maybe at least 5 years ago. I don't remember when he was first released, but your guess of 8-10 I'd say is about right, just from the sculpting style. I think with one or two exceptions, a lot of the Made to Order models so far have been stuff from what was in the range when Warhammer Fantasy Battle was ended. I can only think of Mengil's Manhides and a few Blood Bowl teams that were older that have been on a Made to Order
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Yep.
No real legends there for us Grognards.
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Had a friend who made the troll army with the king controlling it. I thought it was super cool.
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I've personally never seen that Troll model before, and if I thought I'd ever get to use him I'd buy him. As for the others, the first two tie in nicely with the newly released Beastmen I suppose.
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Okay new made to order stuff us up and this stuff I remember the prices much better from when they were available. They are the same, almost exactly. I was thrown last time when the Empire stuff seemed more expensive. I was a big fan when the Throgg troll first came out and I distinctly remember being annoyed with much he costs.
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I would love to have throgg. Sadly I’ll have to pass
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a few more made to order:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/17/forge-world-previews-halflings-and-heroes/
Treeman
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and the Halfling Hot-pot
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Classic stuff.
Didn't check their price tags.
-Z
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We won't know the prices until the weekend, but generally Made To Order is at the old price it was when it went OOP, or close to it, and are made in the material it was last made in.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/21/made-to-order-preview-chaos-sorcerers/
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well maybe this should go in the 40k topic..
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Yeah, looks pretty 40k to me...
Is there a thread in the 40k board for this?
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I happened to have all those sorcerers.