Topic: Inclusion/Exclusion of Cathay, Ind and Nippon = inexcusable

[rufus sparkfire]

There's always Warhammer Ancients. They've already got one book on an early period (I believe) of Chinese history

I have that one. It's quite interesting, but the army lists are very dull - it's just bloke with crossbow, bloke with halberd, bloke on chariot. The best part of it are the strategists and their ruses.

[Finlay]

I struggle to find opponents/money to buy models/time to paint them for fantasy, let alone ancient battles.

[rufus sparkfire]

That's true, no one plays. It's even harder to find someone to play an actual in-period game.

I haven't even played, but mainly because you need so many miniatures for an army and I still haven't finished painting my Byzantines.

[ZeroTwentythree]

I have that one. It's quite interesting, but the army lists are very dull - it's just bloke with crossbow, bloke with halberd, bloke on chariot. The best part of it are the strategists and their ruses.

Now see, that's what I like about it. None of this ward save, regeneration, slime trail, miasma of pestilence impossible to kill stuff. 

I don't know anything about that book, but most of the classical (west) & medieval stuff seems a little more interesting than that, with warbands, nomad cavalry, phalanxes, etc.

I struggle to find opponents/money to buy models/time to paint them for fantasy, let alone ancient battles.

I hear that -- and I don't know many local players either. But that's why I'm on a crusade to convert people. 

That's true, no one plays. It's even harder to find someone to play an actual in-period game.

I haven't even played, but mainly because you need so many miniatures for an army and I still haven't finished painting my Byzantines.

My Burgundians have far fewer figures than my Empire or Skaven do. 



Back to the original topic, I like to have a bit of mystery & unknown in the game, so I'm glad they just hint at some things without filling them out.

Besides, you can always "counts as." Like the Cathay & Nippon armies using existing rules (both Empire?)

[rufus sparkfire]

I don't know anything about that book, but most of the classical (west) & medieval stuff seems a little more interesting than that, with warbands, nomad cavalry, phalanxes, etc.

I really like the Byzantium and Vlad the Impaler books. Both of them have a lot of interesting lists (and the Vlad book is full of ideas I stole for the Marienburg campaign lists). I'm not keen on Western Europe so much (especially in the dark ages - it's all mud and spears).

The Siege book has some rules for including terrain in the points value for scenario games that are really excellent.

My Burgundians have far fewer figures than my Empire or Skaven do.

Well, my Byzantines have three units of twelve cavalry and one of ten, plus all the infantry. I'm about half way through.

They seem a bit broken though. The Kataphractoi blunt-nosed wedge looks brutal, and the normal heavy cavalry have the equivalent of 'always strikes first'  and 'hatred.' 

[t12161991]

I heard a good one for Nippon/Japan with High Elves/Dark Elves

Peasants= Spearmen (preferably DE here)
Archers= Archers (or RxBs)...
Samurai= Swordmasters/Executioners
Ninjas= Shadow Warriors/Shades (probably Shades are better here)
Cavalry (forget the Japanese name for em right now...)= Ellyrion Reavers/Dark Riders

[FVC]

Cavalry (forget the Japanese name for em right now...)

Samurai.

[ZeroTwentythree]

The Siege book has some rules for including terrain in the points value for scenario games that are really excellent.

I think "Siege and Conquest" is a great book for stealing ideas from WAB into WFB, even if you don't play WAB at all.

[rufus sparkfire]

It is, isn't it. Fantastic book.