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It's list time!
I am unsure how the hell you are meant to transport around this many raiders and ravagers though. I also maybe don't want wracks as they are 20.50 for 5.


Archon, shadowfield, agoniser 100 pts (with incubi)
Haemonculus, liquifier, 80 pts (with wracks)

4 incubi, 88pts venom, 143 pts
9 wracks, raider, flicker field 150 pts


10 wyches, 2 shardnet impalers, syren with agoniser, raider with flicker field 250 pts
10 kabalites, blaster, splinter cannon,  raider with splinter racks 185
10 kabalites, blaster, splinter cannon,  raider with splinter racks 185

3 reavers, heat lance, 78
3 reavers, heat lance, 78

Ravager, Flicker field, nightshield, 125 pts
Ravager, Flicker field, nightshield, 125 pts
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 01:22:35 AM »
Ravagers are 9.50 more than raiders, for essentially sponson dark lances.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 01:25:11 AM »
I think it might actually be impossible to carry around that many fragile spike-boats!

No idea how good the list is though.


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Ravagers are 9.50 more than raiders, for essentially sponson dark lances.

It's the 'not a basic transport' tax. All armies have it!
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 01:29:53 AM »
I don't really want an all mech army, but av 10 open topped is barely mechanised anyway! and I think there is almost no point not taking transports, unless its some shooty kabalites or trueborn to sit in cover on your objective.

I'd need to get a custom battlefoam army case with dark eldar cut trays I think.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2011, 01:38:14 AM »
They are only AV10? What does the force field thing do?


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I'd need to get a custom battlefoam army case with dark eldar cut trays I think.

A big one!


Rhinos are great because they are stackable.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2011, 01:40:16 AM »
Pondering?  Sounds like you've already decided.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2011, 02:20:42 AM »
Becareful about getting into Dark Eldar.  They all have herpes.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2011, 08:24:21 AM »
Especially Venom Spam lists.
I thought he should act responsibly and just kill himself.

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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 09:07:50 AM »
The stackable rhinos are all part of the STC system. Like the list but don't the incbi not have a transport? Also very fragile and none of the really cool new DE models
There are 40 different shades of black, so many fortresses and ways to attack.

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 09:16:22 AM »
The Venom is a transport.

4 incubi, 88pts venom, 143 pts
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 10:08:06 AM »
I am only pondering, haven't bought anythibg yet.

I think its hard not to make a fragile de list.
And what cool new models?
Reavers, kabalites and wyches are all way better than the old models.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 10:36:09 AM »
The talos and the snakeman. There seems to be loads of cool dread size options available I've seen.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 10:45:23 AM »
Isn't the snakeman part of that archon's court unit that costs about 50 for five models? In nasty resin.

I mainly just like the jetbike models, I think.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 11:02:57 AM »
I'm genuinely a bit confused about the snakeman. He's a bit like the random monkey for daemonhunters.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 11:03:25 AM »
I love the incubi models.

That said, anyone playing warhammer needs a Spacemarine army.  Barring that, Orks cannot be beaten for cool models.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 12:07:31 PM »
The snakeman is in the Space Varangian Guard. Archons don't trust other space elves, so they hire random aliens to protect them.

40K needs more random aliens!


I love the incubi models.

The design of their weapons irritates me.


Hey, I quite like the ones with wings!
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2011, 02:00:32 PM »
I don't want a space marine army precisely because everyone has one. And I'm not a fan of orks.

I think the talos isn't very good. Nor are scourges, the winged ones.

And I love Incubi and want to use them.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2011, 02:44:48 PM »
And I'm not a fan of orks.

Don't let Grishnak hear that!

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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2011, 05:59:12 PM »
Grishnak hates orcs too!

He lures the savage big uns into fighting for him with his special extra potent mushroom brew and amazing wits.

I can't decide about the Incubi. A squad of 4 incubi and the archon will just get murderised by any grey knights they touch, unless they wipe them out first.

Maybe I should have some bloodbrides with a succubus instead.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2011, 06:05:03 PM »
No need to assume you will always be playing grey knights!
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2011, 02:38:34 PM »
40K needs more random aliens!
:icon_lol:

This brings to mind rolling on random monster tables for D&D when I was a kid, and wondering if the newest editon still has those.

I'm imagining 40K where half way through the game players roll on a random monster table, and some horrific creature makes its appearance to rip and shread the two opposing armies to pieces, and the only thing that can be done is for the two armies to combine their might to kill off the creature or be done under themselves.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2011, 03:03:27 PM »
I think that's a good idea, actually. I'm sure 40K would be a lot more fun with scenarios (no, the three 'missions' in the rulebook don't count!). Perhaps have a game on a deathworld where there are nasty alien monsters everywhere.

More like the original Rogue Trader rules (not that I've read them).
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2011, 03:28:57 PM »
Actually, there is a battle missions book GW produced a year or two ago that has different scenarios in it.  Somewhere along the line I need to pick one of those up.
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2011, 04:01:13 PM »
I think that's a good idea, actually. I'm sure 40K would be a lot more fun with scenarios (no, the three 'missions' in the rulebook don't count!). Perhaps have a game on a deathworld where there are nasty alien monsters everywhere.

More like the original Rogue Trader rules (not that I've read them).

there are good supplements with neat rules.  Planetstrike and Apocolypse offer cool alternatives.
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Re: Finlay's 40k thread for silly questions. Currently pondering a DE army.
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2011, 08:54:18 PM »
Do all grey knights count as psykers?

If so, would a crucible of malediction be worth it?

edit, i found the rule. the squad leader and vehicles do! probably is worth taking it for a laugh.

Here is some completely useless advice I found online.

"They shouldn't be getting within a template distance of your Raiders, Venoms, or Ravagers so the incinerator isn't scary.

Power weapons are useless against wches, apart from taking away FNP

Psycannons shoot 24", if they asre spamming that, stay 25"+ Away from them.

Dreads are mean but they can be stunned every turn, or killed. Just remember, you don't need to kill something to make it not work, if you stun or shaken that dread every round its useless."

Except they can deepstrike the incinerators near you, and open top av ten will probably die to 2 incinerators.

FNP is half of a wych units survivability

psycannons can be assault, so a 30 inch threat range. And still 4 shots if on a dread or razorback with 30 inch range

They ignore shaken and stunned on a ld10 test.


IDIOT.

Someone else just said to shoot until a unit is largely innefective, leaving 2-3 guys.

2-3 grey knights, expecially with a psycannon or incinerator, can definitely do enough damage so that you don't want to ignore them.

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