Topic: Pistoliers and Outriders Multi Shot Rule?

[LordBrown]

Tell me I am wrong.... Please.

So I played another empire player last week and he swore to everything holy that Pistoleers and Outriders don't have a  -1 to hit when they multi shoot.  I think he is crazy but since my book seems to have joined all my left socks I thought I would ask if I am correct in thinking that Pistoleers and Outriders do in fact follow the normal multi shot rules and suffer a  -1 to hit when choosing to do so?

[angryman]

Your opponent is incorrect, they do suffer the -1 to hit. They have multiple shots hence suffer the effects for shooting a multiple shot weapon.

[Lord Quiran de Lancastre]

EDIT: while it is not listed on page 28 with the rest of the modifiers like it should be, page 55 states that a multiple fire weapon can be fired once with no penalty and at -1 if shooting more than once.

Please cite the rulebook when giving definitive answers to questions like these. If there is no rulebook reference then assume the answer is not correct until actual proof is given.

[Nightshadow]

EDIT: while it is not listed on page 28 with the rest of the modifiers like it should be, page 55 states that a multiple fire weapon can be fired once with no penalty and at -1 if shooting more than once.

It's in the "Weapons" section. Page 55, look at "Multiple Shots".

So, don't get down and boogie woogie just yet. 

[Lord Quiran de Lancastre]

yeah it's not listed in the back appendix or on the modifiers page which is dumb as it's a modifier. This would be the editors fault IMO.

for a while I had my hopes up that they removed that rule. My skinks would have kicked ass if they did lol.

[BAWTRM]

As if Skinks would need an efficiency boost!

[stareso]

Pistols don't receive penalties for long range or moving and shooting though which mean both outriders at long range and pistoliers will hit on 5's no other modifiers considered.

Just to add

[Elieress]

Pistols don't receive penalties for long range or moving and shooting though which mean both outriders at long range and pistoliers will hit on 5's no other modifiers considered.

Just to add

except skirmishers, single mansized targets, cover and so on... Man.. I hate woodsies..

[Dendo Star]

A stand and shoot reation with Pistoliers is terrible.

8 shots on 6s and 4 on 5s...

And if they're Skirmishers charging you forget about it!

[cisse]

That's why you flee with them, and that's why the musician is such a wonderfull addition to the unit.

Allthough, with the new fleeing rules and your units being destroyed if they flee through terrain, be carefull when declaring a flee reaction...

[Fandir Nightshade]

*sigh* I want my old pistols back.....and keep the musician lol

[Volkbane]

I actually thought they had removed this rule in the new edition early on too.  I took the weapon section for granted and just consulted the modifier chart.