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Offline Fandir Nightshade

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1350 on: July 11, 2012, 11:16:23 AM »
Well first blackpowder weapons were kind of shite.....longer loading times, less accuracy, less penetration, risk of misfire.

Advantages were ....easy to learn (half an hour of instruction)compared to several years for archery, no strength needed,cheap to produce (the basic handguns was a pipe in which you dropped a lead ball and some powder...bang), during rain the sinews of the crossbow and the bow were unreliable as with the handgun you just needed to keep the powder dry well and the psych factor of the bang, fog etc.

What kind of makes little sense is the mix in the warhammer world of high price (quality manufactured guns maybe even with a rifled barrel) with low effect (low damage and low accuracy).


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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1351 on: July 11, 2012, 11:29:48 AM »
Gunpowder weapons in D&D are very effective, and extremely rare.
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1352 on: July 11, 2012, 11:33:12 AM »
Well I have to take it back....If you assume that the Warhammer Empire tech level is at flintlock age

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duelling_pistol

pistols should be much better in terms of accuracy and damage.

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The bullets loaded in them could weigh half an ounce (214 grains (13.9 g)) in .52 caliber, or more in larger calibers. Additionally, a bullet fired from a duelling pistol could have a muzzle velocity of up to approximately 800 feet per second (240 m/s), which, with a .52 caliber bullet, would give it a lethality which compares favourably with more modern automatic pistol cartridges such as .45 ACP. Duelling pistols could therefore inflict very severe gunshot wounds.

Like the kick of a mule!

Interesting read on Japanese history with blackpowder weapons
http://books.google.de/books?id=4Ete0zPAnjwC&pg=PP1&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false


Cannon do you want to go in and kill all the thieves or what is the plan? Capture and bringing to justice?
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1353 on: July 11, 2012, 11:55:54 AM »
Cannon do you want to go in and kill all the thieves or what is the plan? Capture and bringing to justice?

General mayhem I suppose.

I'm okay with murdering any that will not surrender.
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Offline Fandir Nightshade

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1354 on: July 11, 2012, 11:57:52 AM »
What if they just run upstairs and leave via the tavern or the sewers (pike and cross or whatever it was named). Leaving you with the goods...but no thieves.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1355 on: July 11, 2012, 12:13:20 PM »
About the thieves: you can sort them out if you post detailed instructions on what you want to do, so we can get through it quickly. I don't want to wait ages while people say 'I listen at the door' or whatever. Not when we could be doing the next adventure instead!


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If you assume that the Warhammer Empire tech level is at flintlock age

I don't think it is! Match lock and wheel lock.
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1356 on: July 11, 2012, 12:16:09 PM »
Then there shouldnīt be duelling pistols.

Well even match locks were pretty powerful as I just read about the japanese conquest of Korea in the 17 century. Too powerful actually so they returned to sword and spear because it became too boring.

ahhhh those crazy Japanese.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1357 on: July 11, 2012, 12:18:09 PM »
I would have no objection to Rufus making pistols st4 or five even.   Also shouldn't duelling pistols be less accurate than normal pistols?   I read somewhere that they were made less accurate so that there was less of a chance of nobles killing each other in duels :)   Though it is not in the wiki article.

I think Mortus is happy to leave the thieves to the city guard.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1358 on: July 11, 2012, 12:19:53 PM »
Well the wiki article presents them more powerful and more accurate than the military counterparts  but with longer reloading times (due to the ball fitting exactly into the barrel and not like military ones dangling lose in there for super fast reloading times).

I suggest you guys make a little essay on what you want to do and how like I did.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1359 on: July 11, 2012, 12:20:50 PM »
I cant even decide which career advance to pick.
I don't care about the rules.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1360 on: July 11, 2012, 12:24:19 PM »
Then there shouldnīt be duelling pistols.

Maybe there aren't! The main rulebook only has pistols and blunderbusses! And I'm not really using any of the rules from the supplements anyway.

Let's say there are only pistols. But they are S4, as I posted in the rules thread anyway.

Klaus can buy extra fancy pistols with a lot of decoration on them, but they work no better than plain ones.



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I think Mortus is happy to leave the thieves to the city guard.

Does Mortus have other plans? Or will she just sit about reading spell books?
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1361 on: July 11, 2012, 12:26:24 PM »
Well then I am happy with a pair of fantastic looking pistols. Can I fire both the same turn?

I need a hunchback who reloads them while I look dashing.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1362 on: July 11, 2012, 12:40:07 PM »
Can I fire both the same turn?

RULES DO NOT COVER!  ::heretic::

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1363 on: July 11, 2012, 12:53:24 PM »
Finlay I would suggest you become a tunnel fighter as we are drastically lacking close combat potential with only Heinrich being able to stand up in a proper fight. It is unlikely that we ever have to coordinate a battery of guns during a fight and yes....you are not very skilled in the ranged department.

But on top of that...guys you are filthy rich over 1000 gp what are the plans of you people....do you consider sticking around Klaus as he seems lucky and ambitious to gain even more, do you want to retire to become a happy farmer? What would be the next step?

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1364 on: July 11, 2012, 01:27:53 PM »
Thanks to rufus for answering my questions.

Julian is now a tunnel fighter

and he adds strength,

[I've spent 800 exp now in total, is that correct? ]
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1365 on: July 11, 2012, 01:40:35 PM »
Haven't you only had 700? That was what I thought it was.
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1366 on: July 11, 2012, 01:44:44 PM »
Am I getting confused perhaps by the extra wound I gained from a starting skill?

If everyone else thinks 700 then it must be that
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1367 on: July 11, 2012, 01:45:14 PM »
Yes you are both correct....Finlay spent 800....and we got 700...well except mortus I think she has a few less.

But guys what is the motivation of your folks....do they want to become rich or famous, save the world? Becoming head of the engineering guild, becoming a powerful mage (to achieve....what?)

And how do they want to achieve those aims.


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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1368 on: July 11, 2012, 01:59:16 PM »
I was sure I had filled up my advance, and then the 300 from stopping tzeentch was 100 for career change, and then 200 for 2 skills...

But i added 100 too much exp, is that what uou are saying fandir?
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1369 on: July 11, 2012, 02:04:09 PM »
If you have spent 800 then yes. I donīt know where the mistake is though.

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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1370 on: July 11, 2012, 02:08:46 PM »
Hmmmm.

500 to complete engineer career (6 advances, one free)
100 to change career
100 to spend on something!

700 total.


(Mortus only had 650. Max had less)
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1371 on: July 11, 2012, 02:16:44 PM »
[ah, there is the confusion! One free advance. Hurrah! I get my plus strength afterall.]

Julian would like to run an engineering/mining company. Oddly for a dwarf, he likes the company of humans and he likes travelling. He also wants to save the world. Feck off demons!
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1372 on: July 11, 2012, 02:19:16 PM »
Nice ideas finlay.


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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1373 on: July 11, 2012, 02:23:13 PM »
there certainly will be! Remember the letter to teugen. And the campaign is called enemy within or something. Fighting cultists hooooo
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Re: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)
« Reply #1374 on: July 11, 2012, 02:32:16 PM »
Did you add a fate point? I think cannon added his, but I'm not sure about the rest of you.

Also don't forget the 1000 gold each!


Max is going to spend his EXP on learning three of the skills he didn't quite finish at university... he'll ask Julian to help him with his dwarfish!
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