Topic: Shadows over Bogenhafen RPG (out of character thread)

[rufus sparkfire]

Max can swim! Or you could try to hook him out with something.

Depends if you want a live elf or a dead one.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

I suppose a live one would be preferred. It might help us when we go talk to the elfs about evil necromancers in Middenheim, when we have an evil necromancy elf in custody.

[rufus sparkfire]

Habeas Elfus.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

I half was expecting Max to ginger swan dive into the water to save him.

Deus Ex Breytanbach.

[rufus sparkfire]

Max is too busy providing medical care while wearing boardshorts!

[Karl Voss of Averland]

So, in the world of fantasy and magic, how does one prevent a captured person from casting a spell?

Besides punch in face repeatedly.

[rufus sparkfire]

Tie them up and gag them! Periodic punching helps too.

Oh, and search them for magical gadgets.


Keep in mind that elf-related crimes are politically sensitive, and technically fall under the jurisdiction of Elftown. The watch don't like to arrest elves. Admund and Hans know this.

[commandant]

When they pull the body in Mortus will search it for magical stuff.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

Keep in mind that elf-related crimes are politically sensitive, and technically fall under the jurisdiction of Elftown. The watch don't like to arrest elves. Admund and Hans know this.

Even Necromantic Terrorists? Surely the walking dead attacking a dozen townfolk and several hurt will cause the watch to detain the elf. Jurisdiction wise it might be messy, but I don't think the watch would hesitate to arrest a necromancer who animated a group of zombies, right?

At minimum it's a noise violation

[Finlay]

are we still pretending we're merchants?!

citizens arrest!

[rufus sparkfire]

Well, was he actually seen to raise the dead? Or was he just hanging around when it happened? How likely are the watch to get in trouble if it turns out to be a mistaken arrest?

Marienburg wants to keep the elves happy, which they do by bending the law for them outrageously. At the least, the watch would be expected to hand the prisoner over to Elftown immediately. They are likewise expected to hand over anyone suspected of committing crimes against elves.

Have you arrested a necromancer? Or assaulted an innocent elf out on a boat trip?

[Finlay]

fucking elves.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

Have you arrested a necromancer? Or assaulted an innocent elf out on a boat trip?

Have you thought about becoming a defense attourney, Rufus? 

We're detaining an elf we witness practicing dark arts until the authorities arrive. We also saved a lot of people from ugly but well drawn zombies.

Next time we just kill him.

fucking elves.

Racist! I can't believe someone in the 22nd century IC would still think this way!

[Finlay]

can we quickly move him somewhere hidden? if we give him to the elfwatch bastards he/she's gone!

Hans and Admund are linked to the watch?

[Karl Voss of Averland]

Admund is linked to the City Watch from Middenheim. He has no authority in Marienburg. Harboring the necromancer might be worse than just turning the necromancer over. Admund hates necromancy (after what happened to his friends in Middenheim). Maybe he should just kill the elf?

Call Captain Kratz!

[Finlay]

well if we kill it we'll be arrested for murder!

[rufus sparkfire]

It's still foggy! No one can see you!

Oh, and you could take him somewhere in the rowing boat, if you wanted.

[Finlay]

on one hand, I want to confiscate the magic doohickeys so we can do our own investigation.

On the other, they're good evidence.

I guess realistically we have to give it to elf town. What do we think group?

I guess Hans would know a safe room if we took him somewhere on a boat? of course all those townsfolk are a problem. although we could say we knocked him into the river then couldn't find his body.

[Karl Voss of Averland]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

1) Kill The Elf Prisoner - no different than if Hans failed to stun, or he drowned. Saves us some legal problems. We investigate the pendant and ring secretly.

Worst Case: We are arrested for murder!

2) Turn The Necromancer Over To The Watch - Might get information from him. Might be useful evidence when bringing up the evil elf problem in Middenheim. Legally the "right" thing to do, but might take time to prove innocence. Townspeople we're helping will be on our side?

Worst Case: Evil Elf cult knows about us! Evil Elf gets released and hunts us!

3) Run Off With The Prisoner - Allows us to question him privately (not always successful). Where would we run off to? Avoids messy situation with authorities. Makes us not so lawful.

Worst Case: We get arrested for harboring elf necromancer! Political nightmare with elftown!

[Sig]

Option four is take him to the temple of Morr to be charged in the secret Star Chamber with heresy. They'll torture him probably, then execute him.

[commandant]

I vote for option 3

[rufus sparkfire]

Hans thinks for a moment. "Maybe we should try to find a small cart or wheelbarrow to take one of the dead with us too.

That would be rather conspicuous!

[Sig]

Could cover it up! Leaving six zombies and a bunch of infected townsfolk isn't a good look either

The Temple of Manaan might be interested in that ring. Stromfels maybe? Hans has heard of Stromfels but wouldn't think about the ring.

[rufus sparkfire]

Fair enough!

So, a decision has to be made here. Someone will have to play party leader and choose, unless a consensus is reached naturally.

[Sig]

Hans can pull out his icon of Morr and direct the townsfolk to burn the corpses and give us a cart and sheet to cover it, so we can take one corpse and the necromancer to the temple of Morr if you guys want.