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Warhammer-Empire Website => Welcome to the Empire - Guides, Help, Introductions, and Rules => WFB Empire Provinces => Topic started by: Midaski on May 06, 2007, 05:10:36 PM
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As part of the "Welcome to the Empire" Forum we (and with a lot of convincing argument from Fafnir) thought it would be a useful to have a guide to the popularity of the various Provinces.
This is intended as an opportunity for members to 'join in' in their threads of choice, exchanging information/ideas/tips about their favourites.
As always the definitive guide remains "A is for Altdorf" in the library:
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/guide/guide_index.php
Existing members can indicate their allegiances and guests or new members could see the favourites and the 'not so well' supported - this may well help in choosing which army you wish to build.
You will also noticed that each Province and each City State also has its own dedicated thread which contains more information and helpful links, and over time will, we hope, grow with members' contributions of such thing as as modelling and painting tips, links to their armies in our Gallery.
I have shown some links to maps I found and our thanks are due to Andreas Blicher (aka Black Spectrum),
and Alfred Nuñez Jr. (aka Mad Alfred).
Andreas' site is here: http://www.andreas.blicher.info/
There is another site that you may find useful where Dave Graffam has taken the maps produced by Andreas and Alfred and added colour. His site here:
http://www.windsofchaos.com/?page_id=24
shows the whole set.
and it looks like he is always adding new stuff - you can never have too much fluff eh?
Please note: You are allowed TWO votes in this poll as we know a lot of members actually have more than one ( some even more) different Empire army.
You may want to exercise caution here - viewing all the wealth of good stuff on this site may cause a rethink, and rushing to vote and then changing your mind after reading some of the other information could be a rash decision.
That is why we have been so kind and given you two votes - for the 'other' army you may build later. :engel:
We have also included Kislev, because it has always been an intrinsic part of Empire fluff and because I am biased. :icon_wink:
There is also an 'Others' vote option with a matching thread 'Independent Armies' thread for all those of you who do not have an allegiance to a particular city or province.
Cult of Ulric, Marienburg, Sigmarites would come under this banner - well probably not the same banner, certainly not an Ulric one for a Sigmarite army, but hey you know what I mean ............... :engel:
Reasons:
a) They are still important parts of The Empire world.
b) A legal Empire army can be run with just a Kislev or Marienburg theme. (Especially by the Emperor and a certain Mod :icon_wink:)
c) We still hope GW will eventually do something with the potential.
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Alas, you refrained from putting minor cities like Bogenhafen in your list, and there's quite a few Bogenhafen players on this site. I think that we and others like the Carroburg people will simply need to vote 'other' even though we have established painting schemes that featured in previous Empire army books. :icon_cry:
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This is great!
Talabheim for the win!
Shadowwolf
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Alas, you refrained from putting minor cities like Bogenhafen in your list, and there's quite a few Bogenhafen players on this site. I think that we and others like the Carroburg people will simply need to vote 'other' even though we have established painting schemes that featured in previous Empire army books. :icon_cry:
The point was considered BAWTRM, but then where does the list end?
Originally the poll did have more lines and the two you mentioned were amongst them, along with CoU, Marienburg, and then I started thinking of others - possibly Army of Middenland, Border Princes, Tilea etc. etc and it became a question of where to draw a line.
I wanted the Poll to reflect the threads below...... and I wanted to keep all the relevant threads on the Board's first page, and chose this Welcome forum because it only had a few threads.
The idea of this was twofold as mentioned.
1. To be an answer for those repetitive threads - "Who do you support?"
2. To grow as a 'resource' for new members.
I am pretty certain I mentioned Bogenhafen as a major city of the Reikland, and I would suggest you 'support' the Province in which your city or town is found.
The 'others' thread was mainly for 'themes' such as Sigamrite, or maybe CoU where there is no simple allegiance to a 'place'.
As the threads develop for the Provinces I will monitor things, - I have noticed already the 'Carroburg' argument is developing in the Reikland thread already - I would suggest the 'Bogenhafen Brigade' make their presence felt in there as well .......... early.
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So where do I put Solland - incorporated into Wissenland or as an independat army :>
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So where do I put Solland - incorporated into Wissenland or as an independat army :>
Personally I would go with Wissenland.
Following this and my previous post in response to Bawtrm, my suggestion would be that you vote in the poll for the province where your army is geographically based - then make a post within the thread for the same geographical province explaining the theme of your particular army.
Personally I think it will make each provincial thread far more interesting.
A newcomer may like the idea of say Reikland, and then delve into the Reikland thread and find further options and ideas.
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Hells ya, Averland #1! Averland#1 :icon_mrgreen: :mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Its sooooo rewarding to beat your friend orc/chaos army with some puny humans in YELLOW TIGHTS. Just brings a tear to my eye *
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Seem's we Stirlanders are doing out fine as well :D
Beatin' halflings makes a good exercise for our troops!! :engel:
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Can we not have a Solland as I know there are a frw of us setting up the fluff for re-establishment and it is just too painful to put Wissenland!
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Oh, come on Veldemere. You know you want to vote Wissenland! :wink:
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That's a quiet simple vote here: Stirland!
And 'others', because I really like Sigmarite armies.
I play Warhammer Fantasy Role Play once a month, and we're currently playing a campaign setted in Stirland, and I based my Empire army on Stirland, just to have a difference with my other army, Dwarves. (No Empire-handguns for me :icon_wink:)
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Can we not have a Solland as I know there are a frw of us setting up the fluff for re-establishment and it is just too painful to put Wissenland!
I appreciate the sentiments Veldemere - putting up with Wissenlander is daunting I know. :icon_wink:
However I think it would be quite good that the threads are not all 'love-fests' - a bit of dissention and internal banter should be good for the development.
You can even arrange your own civil wars.
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Alas, you refrained from putting minor cities like Bogenhafen in your list, and there's quite a few Bogenhafen players on this site. I think that we and others like the Carroburg people will simply need to vote 'other' even though we have established painting schemes that featured in previous Empire army books. :icon_cry:
I´m one of the Carroburg folks and i´ve gone for Reikland & Middenland. The one say so, the others the other way.
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I'm an Averlander with a ton of Estilia and Myrmidia themes!
Can't go wrong with a floppish, Spanishy, girl worshiping army...well at least not in my opinion anyways.
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I'm an Averlander with a ton of Estilia and Myrmidia themes!
Can't go wrong with a floppish, Spanishy, girl worshiping army...well at least not in my opinion anyways.
Did you just refer to my averlanders as floppish and Spanishy??? :dry: :x
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I'm an Averlander with a ton of Estilia and Myrmidia themes!
Can't go wrong with a floppish, Spanishy, girl worshiping army...well at least not in my opinion anyways.
Did you just refer to my averlanders as floppish and Spanishy??? :dry: :x
Nope, just mine! Hey, I need something to make them stand out!
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Are they painted well? Either way, pics are always fun to look at
Glad to see another Averlander. I love to whoop chaos warrior and orc ass while pulling yellow tights from encroaching into my ass... lol
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Heeeeeey, there's more of us Talabecland players out there than I thought.
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Can we not have a Solland as I know there are a frw of us setting up the fluff for re-establishment and it is just too painful to put Wissenland!
I appreciate the sentiments Veldemere - putting up with Wissenlander is daunting I know. :icon_wink:
However I think it would be quite good that the threads are not all 'love-fests' - a bit of dissention and internal banter should be good for the development.
You can even arrange your own civil wars.
But I promised to be nice to him, only to the end of the Nemesis campaign though, then we secretly gather for war.... bwhahahahaha. Bugger did I say that out loud (shuffles off).
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I'm an Averlander with a ton of Estilia and Myrmidia themes!
Can't go wrong with a floppish, Spanishy, girl worshiping army...well at least not in my opinion anyways.
Did you just refer to my averlanders as floppish and Spanishy??? :dry: :x
Nope, just mine! Hey, I need something to make them stand out!
And what would the problem with spanish be? :dry:
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I voted Middenland.
Though there isn't a very straight forward reason for this. When I 6 years ago started with Empire (that should be their 6th edition release date) I chose the city/province of which I loved the colours most. This was Carroburg. Reading about the great Carroburg Greatswords only boosted this choice. So Ulric and Middenland were always very present in my fluff. When Cult of Ulric came out, I immediately switched to this list. A more Ulric-themed armylist. What can you ask more. :engel: Though the fluff of CoU and a while after that of Middenland (SoC) ruïned my entire made-up fluff. So since then I have become a Middenland-player. Also the fact Carroburg Greatswords suddenly seemed to be Reikland Greatswords fighting at the gates of Carroburg, made the image of Carroburg falling down. Since then I haven't rewrote my fluff (as I think fluff can give playing games and painting minis a lot more interresting - especially after playing WHF for more then 8 years), but I'm planning to create my own made-up city so I can't be affected ever again by GW fluff. Or at least not in the bad way. The city will most definately lie within the borders of Middenland and there you go, you have the reason for my choice. :biggriin:
Friendly regards
BI
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That's why I made up my own town Brynjolf. Very same reason.
I've got my eye on you Veldemere. 8-)
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I´m one of the Carroburg folks and i´ve gone for Reikland & Middenland. The one say so, the others the other way.
Carroburg lies within the borders of Middenland. On every map of the Empire is has been this way. The fluff that can be found in some White Dwarfs (Cult of Ulric) and Storm of Chaos (Army of Middenland) also clearly says Carroburg is part of Middenland.
The point where you can get confused is that Reikland once sent his Greatswords to Carroburg to defend the City of Carroburg against a siege of Middenheim. At that time there were two Counts of Middenland (one in Carroburg and one in Middenheim). That day, the Reikland Greatswords performed that well and heroic that stories went through the entire Empire about their subborness. The Reikland Greatswords chose the colours red and black from that day on instead of the white colours, to represent the blood on their uniforms.
So if someone is talking about Carroburg greatswords then it is possible he is talking about the Reikland Greatswords wearing Black and Red uniforms OR the real Carroburg Greatswords of which nothing heroic is known (I even don't know what colours Carroburg really has).
This is also one of the reasons I abandoned Carroburg and created my own city.
Anyway, welcome to Middenland. :icon_wink:
Friendly regards
BI
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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I'm an Averlander with a ton of Estilia and Myrmidia themes!
Can't go wrong with a floppish, Spanishy, girl worshiping army...well at least not in my opinion anyways.
Did you just refer to my averlanders as floppish and Spanishy??? :dry: :x
Nope, just mine! Hey, I need something to make them stand out!
And what would the problem with spanish be? :dry:
Not a darn thing for me, in fact I sort of wish I started off doing a pure Estilia army. I absolutely love the Conquistador imagery, just so dang cool.
Although I must admit about 6 years ago I got kicked out of a Spanish class for cheering on Sir Francis Drake during a filmstrip about the Spanish Armada…so maybe I’m not as pro Spain as it might seeem.
~Anthony
ps. hey Wyzer1 I'll try to get some pics up within the next week or so...my boys are painted pretty well, at least a bit above tabletop standard!
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Not a darn thing for me, in fact I sort of wish I started off doing a pure Estilia army. I absolutely love the Conquistador imagery, just so dang cool.
Me too, but I will not be voting in Averland - I have held back my second vote as sometime this year I will build my
Estalian army {note the spelling :icon_wink:}
I intend to join the independent thread, and I have been collecting fluff (and maps) as well as models.
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My "other" is a vote for Marienburg!
Or Sartosa!
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That's why I made up my own town Brynjolf. Very same reason.
I've got my eye on you Veldemere. 8-)
In Norway, you can acctually be named Brynjolf.
Just thougt I'd say that...
Shadowwolf
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That is in fact my Space Wolf commander's name and their fluff is a bit inspired on Vikings. So you get the point of how I got the name. :icon_wink:
I have desided to make my own town up now as well. Will be somewhere in Hochland, between the borders of Middenland and Talabecland. It will be called: ... Still working on that. :icon_lol:
Friendly regards
BI
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Woooo Stirland!!! WooooOo!!!!!
sj
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Another vote for Altdorf.
~fearlessgod~
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Hey i see there are other Hochland players after all. Its nice to know theres more than one of us out there at the bottom of the pile. Being "passed by" with a bit of burning and looting and little mention by archeon does little for ones moral :icon_biggrin:
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Averland for me. Although my second choice was Ostland, it was a tough to pick between Ostland and Ostermark.
(Note: I have not actually begun to collect the Empire yet, but those are my premium picks.)
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Me too, but I will not be voting in Averland - I have held back my second vote as sometime this year I will build my
Estalian army {note the spelling :icon_wink:}
I intend to join the independent thread, and I have been collecting fluff (and maps) as well as models.
My first vote was for Averland and my second for Kislev. My third choice would be the.....Estalian Inquisition...... :biggriin:
"Aaaavverland! Aavverland! Averlaannd! .... Aaverland! Averland! Averlaaannd!"
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I went with ...
Altdorf ... because its the base of operations.
Nuln ... because thats where the general spends the majority of his time .. and so basically so does his forces.
but in a true sences ... the armies true home would be on the rivers between the 3 major water way cities. :engel:
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Hochland!
And Independant Armies! (Cult of Ulric, Cult of Sigmar, Crathegineans and Old Road Patrol)
Ok, so I have Kislev, Stirland, Solland, Riekland, Altdorf and Nuln as well...
hmmm :blush:
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Big cheer for........ Ostland
Just for being black and White
Papabear
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I chose Other since Solland secessionist movement can never agree to go under Wissenland.
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I can't believe I haven't gotten around to vote for this one yet...that's what exams will do to you, they are unhealthy I say, unhealthy!
Seems we Ostermarkers are few and far between. Doesn't matter, we can still have horrible gothic crap happen to us every day and come out on top, if a bit bleak and depressed.
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Middenheim and worshiper of Ulric til the day I die(and past that, when I join the company of Ulric himself! :smile2: *brandishes cavalry hammer for all to see*)
"Men of Ulric, wake from dreaming! / Can't you see their spear points gleaming?"
War. Winter. Wolves. All hail the god Sigmar himself bows to.
In closing, another reason I chose Middenheim and never looked back was this-
"Worshippers of Khorne pray to their god for strength to defeat their enemies.
Worshippers of Ulric pray for enemies to use their strength on."
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Middenheim and worshiper of Ulric til the day I die(and past that, when I join the company of Ulric himself! :smile2: *brandishes cavalry hammer for all to see*)
"Men of Ulric, wake from dreaming! / Can't you see their spear points gleaming?"
War. Winter. Wolves. All hail the god Sigmar himself bows to.
In closing, another reason I chose Middenheim and never looked back was this-
"Worshippers of Khorne pray to their god for strength to defeat their enemies.
Worshippers of Ulric pray for enemies to use their strength on."
Ulric Sucks, Sigmar is better
Someone like Ulric a little? lol
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Ulricans like myself don't make it a habit to do things halfway. :ph34r:
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Hooray for The Ostermark!
It may be a bleak and rugged land, but you won't find tougher soldiers anywhere in the Empire.
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I've yet to see anyone admit to having a halfling force! Was there ever a list written anywhere? And better yet, did anyone ever attempt to collect or play one?
I really enjoyed the character of the old Empire Halflings/Dwarfs although It's good to see that I can use them via Dogs of War if ever acquire some of the models. I'm currently settling on using Lumpin Croop's regiment of renown, simply because i have them, but their uniforms just aren't as "imperial" as the old halfling archers.
Anyway, my "other" vote went toward my twisted desire to have a small halfling force.
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Wissenland aye!!
Down with the Emporureruorer! To the glory of the Empire!
Grudgie, the dirt of the Empire
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Come on the Ostermark!
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Although my vote comes a little late, I'm voting for other in support of my halfling army!
You Carrobourg and Bogenhafen supporters think you have it so bad.. While Mootland is an official province and doesn't even make it into the list :dry:
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Although my vote comes a little late, I'm voting for other in support of my halfling army!
You Carrobourg and Bogenhafen supporters think you have it so bad.. While Mootland is an official province and doesn't even make it into the list :dry:
what are halflings?? :-P
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They're those things you always try to crush, but always come back for more :evil: !
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Wyzer, did you serve with the Mad Count during his dealings with the Halfling rebellion?
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Middenland - not just a province but a state of mind!!
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Wyzer, did you serve with the Mad Count during his dealings with the Halfling rebellion?
uh... I thought they were dwarves... (remember a time not so very long ago that half of us here hated them?)
lol
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Yes, not so long ago...
And remember, Halflings = no beard.
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Named provinces be damned! The Roving Province of Sigmarheim will march through your lands proclaiming His Truth for all of the unfaithful! With the Hammer and with the Flame! All ye mutants and heretics and sinners shall be burned! (cue Howard Dean yell) :icon_twisted:
(ahem...I actually just thought black and tan looked good together after painting 3000 points of Black Templars, and it didn't really fit any fluff. So, um, yeah, first vote was Sigmarite, second was Kislev. :biggriin: )
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(ahem...I actually just thought black and tan looked good together after painting 3000 points of Black Templars, and it didn't really fit any fluff. So, um, yeah, first vote was Sigmarite, second was Kislev. :biggriin: )
Really? I painted 3000 pts of black templar (crappily) and thought... gg I dont want to see another black and white model every again....
Although I still use black in my color scheme, its the easiest method for people with more miniatures than time
But still, yellow tights FTW!
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I choosed the province where it is fluffy to have DoW, Halflings and many cannons...
and it is rich and it wants to see me as EC.
Averland :-D
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I choosed the province where it is fluffy to have DoW, Halflings and many cannons...
and it is rich and it wants to see me as EC.
Averland :-D
Can I get a Hell Ya!!
Sweet, I'd vote for you...
"You don't vote for Electors!"
"Then how'd you become Elector then?"
"The lady of the lake..."
Sorry, couldn't help myself...
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'Hell ya!!' :biggriin:
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Talabheim and more recently, Reikland for me.
I'm a sucker for the tights.
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That would be kind of entertaining
Every month or so have a vote on who is the count of which province... Maybe even for the churches... And of course the Inquisition is a self-contained organization (with the heirarchy of a dictatorship... :evil:) so doesn't count :icon_rolleyes:
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Ostland for me! My army, the Grand regiment of Ostland (inofficial name still to be invented) have red instead of white, but they are an Ostland unit.
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Talabecland all the way! And oh yeah: we don't need no Talabheimers, Talabecland is strong enough on its own :happy:
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Oooohhhh! Them's fightin' words, them is! Need us? Maybe not. Benefit from actually having some real men in the province (ie, don't look like a walking Reese's peanut butter cup wrapper)? Definetly.
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Sigmarite Middenheim with Altdorf and other southern elements.
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City State of Altdorf backed up by sizeable contingents of the Reiksguard foot and Reiksguard Knights. :smile2:
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Middenland & Middenheim. Glory to the great Wolf-God Ulric!!
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My army will be Sigmarite Averland. Just love the image of flamboyant, somewhat foppish warriors, who are on the other hand religious zealots! I also like the idea of using Dogs of War, since in my previous armies (Orcs&Goblins and Tomb Kings) I haven't done this before...
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My army will be Sigmarite Averland. Just love the image of flamboyant, somewhat foppish warriors, who are on the other hand religious zealots! I also like the idea of using Dogs of War, since in my previous armies (Orcs&Goblins and Tomb Kings) I haven't done this before...
What a horribly idea! Sigmarite Averland? Only a complete goon would do that!*
*if you didn't catch my sarcasm my two armies are: 1.) Sigmarite Averland and 2.) Altdorf Inquisition
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Yeah, I knew that. Was quite pleased to discover that I'm not the only goon :biggriin:.
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I voted other, mine is a Marienburg merchant navy
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OK so I had to vote other too (Sylvania) then Averland since I was tossing up doing a Mountain Guard theme. It seems that perhaps some of the "others" need some repesentation since others is the largest group.
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I chose Stirland and Ostland just because i felt sorry for them, Ostland having Chaos to the North and nearly being wiped out and Stirland......well being by Transylvania i mean Sylvania. :blush:
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I chose Stirland and Ostland just because i felt sorry for them, Ostland having Chaos to the North and nearly being wiped out and Stirland......well being by Transylvania i mean Sylvania. :blush:
HaHaHa! Mine is a Crusading army based in Ostland and Stirland. Lots of Knights, Pistoliers, Warrior Priests and a Giant for good measure. :-D
Cheers! :::cheers:::
-shadoweyed
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HaHaHa! Mine is a Crusading army based in Ostland and Stirland. Lots of Knights, Pistoliers, Warrior Priests and a Giant for good measure. :-D
Cheers! :::cheers:::
-shadoweyed
Does the giant get a horse aswell? :biggriin: That would be one hell of a charge.
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I have a proclivity for the handguns and cannons of the Empire and that lead me to...
Nuln!
Cheers!
Grim
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I am fairly new to WFB and a real noob to the Empire but after reading the fluff and looking at color schemes it's Hochland for me.
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As a moderator of the Wolf's Lair, I had better of selected CoU. I was a long time player of CoU, I even played CoU lists prior to WD 279. I'm still very unhappy with how Ulric was treated with the NEB. I've stayed away from the empire until now, where I'll play my Teutogen Haus Krannest, a family house in Southern Middenland.
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The Imperial Army I'm counting on playing is from Talabecland... something about its colours... hmmm... Canadian perhaps ;), nah I have just always liked the whole Red and White look... it really speaks "For Sigmar! For the Empire!" to me...
I'm reading through your army book... I never knew all the other armies had a serious lack of knights... but... then... how do you win? :P (Bah dum dum tsh horrible bretonnian Joke)
-Jean-
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Hochland! :dry:
I do not bargain with weak southerners or rustic stirlanders: we are the true power in the north; not Middenheim, but Hochland! :engel:
It has to be said:
This. Is. Hochland. :ph34r:
Hmm. My army's fairly standard, except with a few more flaggelants than normal and no knights. Depending on your definition of standard, of course.
My colour scheme is very dark, and uses a lot of inks, which certainly helps to reduce the 'christmas' effect ...
MM :::cheers:::
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Put down other, as im working on a pure Estalian Army. I'll start postng fluff/lists/pics soon!
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I'm about to start a Marienburg army.
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Well, I want to move my vote from Stirland to Middenland!
I am commited to the woods of the North, crushing beasts and undead with the might of Sigmar and the fury of Ulric!
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My army is the 5th Spear and Gunnery of the Stir River Patrol. (sorry guys, bows just don't blow through the hulls of wine pirate river boats)
More fluff on the way.
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City State ofTalabheim, because It has same colors as the Polish flag.
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Marienburg.
We may have left your *cough* beautiful Empire, but we'll still gladly trade with such a *cough* enlightened folk.
;)
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Middenheim and Nuln. Their colors just looked good over the battlefield.
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My new army based on the Empire Army Book, is going to be a force made up of fighting men from many provinces, most are Empire-born men, but some, like Monsieur Armand, are from beyond the Empire's borders.
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The Army of Mericaath (That's 'America' in Fantasy speak :happy: ) is from an independent realm in the New World, but has heritage from Nuln, Hochland, and even a few people came from Bretonnia.
We may have left your *cough* beautiful Empire, but we'll still gladly trade with such a *cough* enlightened folk.
;)
Jacob Goldstein, amen to your post! :-D
Perhaps you Marienburgers would care to join us in our great republic... :icon_cool:
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Jacob Goldstein, amen to your post! :-D
Perhaps you Marienburgers would care to join us in our great republic... :icon_cool:
And live once more under the tyrannical rule of a product of a flawed system? We have fought for our independence and will sustain it. :closed-eyes: Perhaps one day we shall have a bit more territory and be a rightful country in the Old Worlde. Me thinks that democracy and a rich independent city state is better than a province that can not even keep their countess within their own borders. (Eh Wissenland? Emmanuelle, with all due respect, I belive you are spending too much time in Nuln, and not enough time listening to the cries of your people.) :happy:
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Fought? As in bargained with a corrupt and decadent Emperor with your gold? :biggriin:
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Eh Wissenland? Emmanuelle, with all due respect, I belive you are spending too much time in Nuln, and not enough time listening to the cries of your people.
Nuln can keep her. :-P
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Fought? As in bargained with a corrupt and decadent Emperor with your gold? :biggriin:
That was a perfectly legitimate bargain struck with the your rightfully elected leader. And we have indeed beaten back all reclamation attempts with our own steel, and our own gunpowder.
And our own mercenaries...
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That was a perfectly legitimate bargain struck with the your rightfully elected leader.
You seem to forget... we are not imperial! :-D
We broke off in 1776 Imperial Calendar, long before you guys bargained with the Emperor for your independence.
For Mericaathian Calendar, subtract 653 from the Imperial Calendar date. I'll leave you guessing for why it is that way... :icon_cool:
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Because your Sigmarite version of a Mormon lol :-D
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Because your Sigmarite version of a Mormon lol :-D
*Laughs own head off, fails to resist temptation to sig*
Nope. :happy:
I'll tell you...
This sounds stupid, but it's honestly the best reason I could think of. We believe that Sigmar lived to a great age before actually passing on. :icon_cool:
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This sounds stupid, but it's honestly the best reason I could think of. We believe that Sigmar lived to a great age before actually passing on to godhood. :icon_cool:
There, fixed that for you.
And you better hope the Inquisition doesn't find this one. ::heretic::
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Originally my Empire army was painted in the scheme of Middenland. But as time went by I couldnt go past the outrageousness of the Talabecland scheme. Bright Yellow and red, that and the artwork in the new Rulebook looks spectacular, so the repainting crusade began and now they are all YELLOW AND RED!! :Ohmy:
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Having just read some background material on this site that I haven't read before, I have become an Averland convert, and this will be my main army when I get around to painting it. In addition to Averland, I also voted for Stirland, since I may have some Stirland allies in my Averland force for some games; as I play against Vampire Counts quite a bit, and it would make sense for the two forces to ally themselves to battle against those Lords of the Night.
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Averland my friends.
The home to ostentatious uniforms and noble steeds. :biggriin:
And for Shadowlord:
Never send a Reiklander to do an Averlander's job!
Soon to be painted:
Red-Black Averlander army. :happy:
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I put Averland & Wissenland down but really its Solland (I started playing a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away when 2nd ed was out) since thats where I chose to have my first army, liked the name is all :D
I am slowly putting together a Marienberg/Pirate force, but not using GW figs.
Hopefully, one day GW will realise how cool Marienberg is and also realise that spears are naff and the way ahead is pike with detachments!
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Averland all the way!!!
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My top 3 is
Wissenland
Reikland
Hochland
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I command an army of wandering mercenaries (NOT DoW...:P).
Does that go under 'Other'? :-P
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If my fluff province lies within the borders of Middenland but has independant tendancies ( more will be explained when i post my theme) does that mean i have to vote middenland?
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"Other" would be most appropriate.
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cool thanks, i believe i will make good on my promise and vote now, also post my theme for you all to see, hopefully Stattenland will be recognised as a electorate province lol
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hmm, Altdorf is in front at the moment (discounting "others").
anybody want to guess why?
my guess: the original halberd unipose plastics were shown in Altdorf colors on the box and good kids paint them as shown (that's how I ended up with my home province anyways :icon_redface: )
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My general is a Noble from Solland, so I voted for Wissenland.
For the record...my army is bright purple and bright yellow, not some doomy-gloomy grey/white suits.
To further seperate myself from the Wissenlanders, I have become quite wealthy from my exploits against the Lizardmen, so all of my soldiers can afford shoes!
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I'm currently picking my army back up after nearly a six year hiatus. The original fluff I created (almost fifteen years ago, yikes!) Still stands, though I am in the process of updating it and hopefully making it slightly less silly. In addition I am currently trying to find a location to base it in. The story is going to be posted elsewhere in the site once I find the proper place for it (Independent Army thread perhaps?) The colors taken are black and blue. Partially because it was an easy scheme for my younger, less experienced self to paint, and partially because I always liked that color combination. The fluff has it as a displaced Border Princes city (Entire city/region, not just the army) with ties to the Dwarfs, Empire and Bretonnia. Their preferred / targeted enemy is the Undead, (They make no real distinction between the Vampire counts or the Tomb Kings, undead is undead, :ph34r:) though they have and will happily fight against anyone required.
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A Middenheimer here, mainly because of the city-state's colors and patron deity's symbol being a wolf, and the colors in my coat of arms being blue and white, as well as having a wolf on it, and my last name being Wolfe.
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I've been a fan of Hochland ever since 4th Ed., although my reason for choosing the province was initially rather superficial - my favourite colour is green, and I didn't like Stirland's 'yokel' fluff, so that essentially left me with Hochland :biggriin:
Brief army background: My army (known as the 'Forlorn Hope') was originally composed of veterans of the SoC, but since that has been retconned by GW, I'm in the process of creating new fluff that will explain the army's rather grim name and disposition, as well the the presence of large numbers of foreign mercenaries and worshipers of Morr, Myrmidia and Sigmar. The army itself is commanded by Elector Count Aldebrand Ludenhoff's youngest brother, Theodore Ludenhoff (with few estates to inherit, he was sent off to make his name in the military). Hopefully when I have some more time, and a spark of inspiration, I'll post some detailed fluff in the background forums.
Cheers, Plaguebeast
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I'm still waiting for Marienburg to get some respect around here... :-P
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I'm still waiting for Marienburg to get some respect around here... :-P
And so you should....
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I'm still waiting for Marienburg to get some respect around here... :-P
Looks at cobwebs, dust accumulation... Shrugs...
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Hurrah for Wissenland! We may have some Solland secessionists within our midsts, but we are great! :biggriin:
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Yes, yes yes, thank you for looking after our province, now sod off, and tell those thieving Averlanders they can gerrorf moi land too
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According to the new Empire Heraldry Book, there are a lot of former Solland noble families that reside in Averland.
Rumor even has it that Marious Leitdorf himself descends from a Sollander. :icon_wink:
(By the way, where my neck of Averland is, it's been Averland from as far back as Sigmar's time. :icon_cool: However, in 2524 IC, both my area's leader, and the mercenary Graf Heinrich von Furstenberg have a mother that claims Solland ancestery, too. Although the two sons don't have 50% Sollander blood in them.)
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Yeah, its an odd one that, apparently all the lands went to Wissenland and all the nobles went to Averland, dont make much sense to me, but hey, thats GW for you, no doubt it will change in the next round of fluff
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I could see the land being given to Wissenland with the responsibility of helping to rejuvenate the area, and the nobles perhaps not finding themselves welcome at home and moving to Averland near by instead.
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I expect the land wasn't given to Wissenland.
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Surely not. It was brought under the fold of Wissenland, for protection. Haven't seen any rabid orcs running through the area since we took control, have you? :engel:
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Of course not, I'm a supporter of Wissenland, they give me money.
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Surely not. It was brought under the fold of Wissenland, for protection. Haven't seen any rabid orcs running through the area since we took control, have you? :engel:
Because Averland, perhaps including some of it's nobles with Solland ancestory, have been protecting Black Fire Pass. :engel:
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There are more than one way for orcs to get into 'Solland'. Black Fire pass just so happens to be the 'easiest.' We all know that orcs tend to like to hit their heads on a brick wall as it's more fun that way.
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And if orcs see it as the easiest, hence why Averland needs to protect it so often. However, there's always more than one Orc to skin, and having Wissenland's help protecting the Southern flank of the Empire isn't a bad thing. :icon_cool:
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Well I picked City State of Altdorf and other because mine is the Imperial Zoo's personal Army/Guard. Mainly used to travel to far away lands to collect rare specimens, Security at the Zoo, Maing the rides/food stalls, Looking after the animals and to defend Altdorf if they believe the zoo could be attacked (or if they opposing army has a few interesting creatures).
They are often disliked by the Altdorf state troops mainly because they receive 3 times the pay. Nearly all of the Zoo Guard come from the Altdorf ranks and job offers are not often refused (who says no to a 200% pay rise).
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I dunno, the pay would be good but you'd be bored to tears and smell of animal faeces. lol just joking Empireguard, I'm an aussie so i have to have a joke at everyones expense :biggriin:
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I dunno, the pay would be good but you'd be bored to tears and smell of animal faeces. lol just joking Empireguard, I'm an aussie so i have to have a joke at everyones expense :biggriin:
Which is ironic, given the fact that everyone else laughs at you ;)
BTW, seen the score from Edgebaston yet? ;)
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The cricket? and if yes I have and I was ashamed. . .
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One more vote for Averland.
More precisely, Averheim.
Many reasons for that:
- "Averland is one of the richest provinces => I want to buy the best weapons engineers can make!
- its army is famous for its ostentatious uniforms. => Perfect excuse to paint as beautifully as I can (at least I wish I will in the future...).
- the finest steeds for riding and for battle come from here. => excellent for my knights!
- excellent wine. => excellent for my knights... and everybody else!
- heavy use of the crossbow=> I find them useful.
- greater use of mercenaries"=> possibly in the future.
- That's where the :::cheers::: and :biggriin: secular knights of the Black Bear have their home.
"Easily the most boisterous of all the Knightly Orders within the Empire, the Knights of the Black Bear maintain (...) a Chapterhouse in Averheim itself." => That alone was sufficient to settle down in Averheim!
Not forgetting the extraordinary fluff of our late count, a poet, an engineer and a martial hero altogether (and a wacky person, even better!).
Hey, perfect for an army like mine, fielding heavy cavalry, expensive warmachines and many shooters, as well as brilliant wizards and even creative engineers.
No endless hordes of hopeless men counting only on their sheer mass to compensate for them being butchered. We will win through speed and technology!
No brainless fanatics nor WAltar. I trust powder and armour.
No weird zoo. Horse breeding is under perfect control. In steel lays our future.
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What's with the huge number of Stirlanders? Come on, everyone knows that the might of Middenheim is what's right! :smile2:
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I've invented a region that is situated in Middenland and comprised largely of Middenlanders, and surviving Drakwalders.
The colour scheme is a red jacket, and white jacket and shirt (mostly).
And don't say Talabheim! :biggriin:
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averland for the win. even thou in story the mad count is no longer with us. i still built an army around him and his brother the grand master of the knights of sigmar
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Uh, What no Friestadt of Kemperbad? Had to vote other.
Since Kemperbad is a free city (thanks to Emperor Boris the Incompetent in 1066) and is located where the Stir River joins the Reik River, it has become a very rich autonomous trading town.
Kemperbad being located between Altdorf to the north and Nuln to the south, gives it access to goods that are usually seldom seen elsewhere. So IMO anything is possible in a Kemperbad army.
Paint scheme I use is White (Reikland) and Black (Nuln). With more white on infantry and more black on cavalry.
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It took me two weeks to narrow down what I wanted my Empire force to be. It came down to Nuln and Altdorf (I'm a history buff with ancestors from Germany, so I had a hard time picking between Brandenburg-Prussia [Altdorf] and Nuremburg [Nuln]). Eventually, I decided on a Nuln army because of it's emphasis on the gunline. I'm going to experiment with a lot of handgunners backed up by cannon, Knights Griffon, and spearmen detachments. It's only too bad GW didn't come out with an Engineer hero (like the mad Von Meinkopt!) :happy:
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The Army of Mericaath (That's 'America' in Fantasy speak :happy: ) is from an independent realm in the New World, but has heritage from Nuln, Hochland, and even a few people came from Bretonnia.
We may have left your *cough* beautiful Empire, but we'll still gladly trade with such a *cough* enlightened folk.
;)
Jacob Goldstein, amen to your post! :-D
Perhaps you Marienburgers would care to join us in our great republic... :icon_cool:
Mericaath? Nice one! :Ohmy: A colonial portion of the Empire army book would have been great. I've been toying with the idea of a Marienburg colonial force to fight lizardmen with. Or an Imperial expeditionary force. Nuln is a good choice for that I think, or Averland because they look alot like the Spanish conquistadores in their black and yellow garb and armor. Bronze cannon also really add to the look I think.
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It took me two weeks to narrow down what I wanted my Empire force to be. It came down to Nuln and Altdorf (I'm a history buff with ancestors from Germany, so I had a hard time picking between Brandenburg-Prussia [Altdorf] and Nuremburg [Nuln]). Eventually, I decided on a Nuln army because of it's emphasis on the gunline. I'm going to experiment with a lot of handgunners backed up by cannon, Knights Griffon, and spearmen detachments. It's only too bad GW didn't come out with an Engineer hero (like the mad Von Meinkopt!) :happy:
After a moment of indecisiveness :Ohmy: I changed my mind again for what I want my army to be, OSTLAND!! Besides, my Chicago Bulls shirt matches the Ostland color scheme and heraldry. Nothing like going to a tournament dresed to match! :mellow: :eusa_wall:
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What's with the huge number of Stirlanders?
I, too, am surprised by the large number of Stirlanders here. Not that it bothers me as I play Stirland too :lol:
Notch another vote for Stirland!
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Hochland for Me!!! Land of Snipers with Hochland Longrifles to Pop Skulls of enemy Generals! Nice...very nice... a Christmasy nice!!!
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I'm building a Hochland army, and I assumed it was one of the less popular ones. Wow.
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I'm planning to paint my army with Middenheim scheme basically, but they are part of units of the whole Empire who came to the city for defending it in the Storm of Chaos and now they patrol the woods in order to finish with the remainings of Chaos...
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Well, the stats have balanced out a bit but still, I'm rather surprised how popular Hochland is.
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For Reikland!
Easy to paint, all units joices can be justified without problem. Yeah what more, to ask for?
Cheers
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Sigmarite Ostland, that brims with fluff and conversions. plus they are both my Favourite and just plan awesome.
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Talabecland
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Ha-ha, nobody likes the Polish-Belorussians (Kislevites). :happy:
Except the Chaos Norse I guess, they REALLY like Kislev!
I play a Nuln city-state army with a regiment of Wissenburg Half-pike & Bow at the behest of Countess von Liebwitz who holds her court in Nuln. :smile2:
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I am Russian with Ucrainian lastname and Belorussian origins (precisely, I come from one of Siberian Belorussian clans).
And that's why I keep a Hochland army! :happy:
There're two reasons:
1. When Russians and Belorussians want to tease Ucranian, they call him "Hohol". And ironical name for Ucraine in Russian language: "Hochliandia".
Almost everybody round me think I am Ucranian, 'cause of my last name and 'cause I look like. Being partly a Hochlandian, I made the obvious choice.
2. I like red and green; and white and green; the colors of Hochlandian banners and uniforms.
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What's with the huge number of Stirlanders?
I, too, am surprised by the large number of Stirlanders here. Not that it bothers me as I play Stirland too :lol:
Notch another vote for Stirland!
*Goes off to make shoes*
-The General
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I have painted my army red and yellow; Talabecland.
Can't wait for the new rule book. With the possibilities of the other gods of The Empire being represented. :happy:
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Altdorf and Reikland army here, at least when I start painting them soon.
Currently collecting fluff from here (great resource), WFRP books, Black Library novels and anything else I can get my hands on.
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Not sure why but when I started my empire collection in the early 90's nearly everything was painted in the blue and red of Altdorf so I joined the pack, then after getting the empire book and a boxed set of elector counts, I decided an Altdorf / Ostland alliance was on the cards. But to which one do my true loyalties lie... :icon_twisted:
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Heat up the ale!
Stirland for the win!
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My force is about 50/50 Ostermark and Stirland, i'm going for a theme of the Empire fighting at Hell Fenn (which is on the border between Ostermark and Stirland) so lots of warrior priest and no wizards :icon_surprised: I also have a dwarf army which allies with them for big games (although they fight dark elves more than Vampires but whatever).
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For the Capital!!!
Let's go red, let's go blue, the City of Altdorf will destroy you!
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For the Capital!!!
Let's go red, let's go blue, the City of Altdorf will destroy you!
Traitor!
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I'm not good enough to make the ole White and Grey stand out like they deserve...
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i work one unit at a time by provincial collor i do hope to display a army representing a unifyed grand muster of every provence reresented equaly its always difficult for me to choose wich unit to paint from what reigion
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I opted for Ostermark, partly because they lie directly in the path of two of the greatest enemies of the Empire (the Vampire Counts to the south and the forces of Chaos from the Northeast) and partly because I was fascinated by the appearance and history of the Death's Head Regiment, as seen in the Heraldry book. After some weeks of trial and error, I managed to make a regiment of halberdiers and a regiment of handgunners with skull masks (hope to have pictures up soon!) Oddly enough, my opponents always seem to make them a priority target for some reason, even though their stats are no different from my other troops...
I've also assembled a backstory concerning an impending Chaos invasion across the Kislev-Ostermark border (largely inspired by one of my stronger opponents, who always fields an army of Nurgle Chaos Warriors which have been causing some trouble). As such, I've created a backstory where mercenary forces have journeyed to the League of Ostermark to sell their services for the impending conflict. As such, I've recently painted a large regiment of Estalian soldiers (a long way from home) led by an eccentric, one-eyed captain, to provide additional support to the main force of my Ostermark Regiment. Though I don't use heavy cavalry much, I have two regiments of knights, one painted in the colors of the Order of the Everlasting Light, the other in those of the Osternacht.
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Averland.
The reason I choosed Averland is simple - the colours. I love how the black and yellow correspond with each other. And reading the fluff about Averland just boosted my choice. Averland is named after the river Aver, a province in the south of the Empire. Averland is not the biggest nor the most influental but it's probably the wealthiest. It shares borders to Stirland, Wissenland, Mootland and Reikland (via Nuln). Averlands economy is based on trade, agriculture and horse breeding. The horses of Averland are the finest ones in the Old World and in high demand of the knightly orders. The largest and most influental knightly order in Averland is easily the Knights of the Blazing Sun. The reason is simple - Myrmidia. The Tilean goddess Myrmidia is (besides Sigmar) the most worshipped god/godess in Averland, thanks to the close connection to Tilea. Tilean trade is important for Averland and shown in the military; the military makes heavy use of the Tilean weapons of choice: pike and crossbow. Well, atleast the most of the Averländer soldiers. The exception is spelled Mountainguard. The Mountainguard is an elite force established to keep the Black Fire pass safe, making use of halflings, dwarfs and other special corps. The weapons of choice of the Mountainguard is halberd and handgun, though every soldier in the Mountainguard is armed with a vide variety from spears, swords and crossbows, but every soldier is recognized as a Mountainguard and treated with an equal amount of respect. The Black Fire pass is an common invasion route into the Empire, used by Gorbad Ironclaw in 1707 IC and Grom the Paunch of the Misty Mountains in 2410 IC. And it was thanks to this pass Vorgaz Ironjaw could enter the Empire. Vorgaz Ironjaw was an orc warlord who threathened the peace and safety of Averland. The Elector (Mad) Count Marius Leitdorf gathered his army and sent after his halfling scouts to find out how big of a threat Vorgaz Waaagh! was. The scouts all answered with the same words: Vorgaz army was too big for the Averland army to handle. Leitdorf then swallowed his pride and asked Emperor Karl Franz for some help. Expecting only some state troops, you should have seen the face of the mad count when Karl Franz himself showed up, clad from top to toe in dwarf-forged armour, riding Deathclaw and wielding Ghal Maraz. And ofcourse with his grand army of Altdorf. The battle took place in the Black Fire pass, and in the heat of the battle, Marius Leitdorf found himself in combat with Vorgaz Ironjaw. Even though Marius was a supreme warrior, he couldn't match the hatred and strength of Ironjaw, and the greenskin slayed the mad count. Wounded after his though battle with Leitdorf, Vorgaz was no match for the Emperor who hammered his head in, wich is another notable victory for Franz. But after this, Averland was left without an elector...
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hey all Mad Albrecht, im new to empire but not to the hobby, thought id throw in my 2 cents . my army is the lost province of drakwald.
ps empire are actually really good
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My Empire army, when I finally finish painting everything I have, will be from a multitude of States/provinces. I currently have some Talabheim handgunners, Stirland spearmen, Middenland spearmen, Middenland hero(Captain/General), Wissenland artillery crews, Stirland swordsmen, Talabheim free company. You get the idea, they're a complete hodge-podge! And they always will be!! :-P
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Interesting to read about all the choices and fluff, gotta love the fluff. Cool to see that Empire players are so diverse with the provinces, most have 5% with just a few around 9%. I went Hochland, I started basing the army on La Valette in the Witcher 2 game because I loved the color scheme of green and orange. But having an army based on the combination of Withcer 2 lore and self made "border princes" fluff got old quick and since they use green and red with the occational orange I changed to Hochland and I'm building my army around the fluff which is more rewarding imo (not the most creative player).
I have bought a multitude of badly needed Handgunners with Hochland rifle to complement my army and work with the fluff, got some archers as well since Hochland is not a very rich and a forested area. Will make the archers into their own "Jaegerkorps" (How cool is that name, same as the Norwegian special forces!) with special banner based on the fluff, cant wait for that. My state troopers are mostly spearmen due to the fluff, but I often pussy out and make'em halberds ingame.
I bought a Bretonnian knights pack in order to make some inner circle knights and use Kurt helborg as Preceptor, don't know if I can use them in tournaments but I mostly play with friends in any case and I will make them the Knights of the Broken Sword since they have their chapter house in Hochland. Thinking of giving them a dedicated mounted WP as well. Planning to maybe buy Marius Leitdorf as Elector Count Aldebrand Ludenhof, but I also have a unopened general on griffon. Wish I could take a vacation and spend it painting up my models. :icon_biggrin:
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Talabheim! Like the colors and the fluff around the city.
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I am building a Nordland mercenary force hanging around the vicinity of Marienburg (that is where the money is). For political reasons they front themselves as sigmarites, which is seen as an insult to other Nordland forces. As Ulric is the main deity of Nordland still, and these mercenaries dare bearing the nordland colours and pay hommage to Sigmar!
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As part of the "Welcome to the Empire" Forum we (and with a lot of convincing argument from Fafnir) thought it would be a useful to have a guide to the popularity of the various Provinces.
This is intended as an opportunity for members to 'join in' in their threads of choice, exchanging information/ideas/tips about their favourites.
As always the definitive guide remains "A is for Altdorf" in the library:
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/guide/guide_index.php
Existing members can indicate their allegiances and guests or new members could see the favourites and the 'not so well' supported - this may well help in choosing which army you wish to build.
You will also noticed that each Province and each City State also has its own dedicated thread which contains more information and helpful links, and over time will, we hope, grow with members' contributions of such thing as as modelling and painting tips, links to their armies in our Gallery.
I have shown some links to maps I found and our thanks are due to Andreas Blicher (aka Black Spectrum),
and Alfred Nuñez Jr. (aka Mad Alfred).
Andreas' site is here: http://www.andreas.blicher.info/
There is another site that you may find useful where Dave Graffam has taken the maps produced by Andreas and Alfred and added colour. His site here:
http://www.windsofchaos.com/?page_id=24
shows the whole set.
and it looks like he is always adding new stuff - you can never have too much fluff eh?
Please note: You are allowed TWO votes in this poll as we know a lot of members actually have more than one ( some even more) different Empire army.
You may want to exercise caution here - viewing all the wealth of good stuff on this site may cause a rethink, and rushing to vote and then changing your mind after reading some of the other information could be a rash decision.
That is why we have been so kind and given you two votes - for the 'other' army you may build later. :engel:
We have also included Kislev, because it has always been an intrinsic part of Empire fluff and because I am biased. :icon_wink:
There is also an 'Others' vote option with a matching thread 'Independent Armies' thread for all those of you who do not have an allegiance to a particular city or province.
Cult of Ulric, Marienburg, Sigmarites would come under this banner - well probably not the same banner, certainly not an Ulric one for a Sigmarite army, but hey you know what I mean ............... :engel:
Reasons:
a) They are still important parts of The Empire world.
b) A legal Empire army can be run with just a Kislev or Marienburg theme. (Especially by the Emperor and a certain Mod :icon_wink:)
c) We still hope GW will eventually do something with the potential.
Hey Midaski,
What provinces would you recommend for a beginner?
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@WarhammerDigital,
Any Empire province can wield any army you like. In that sense, the provinces offer you mostly painting opportunities. However, there have been plenty of official and unofficial hints at what unit choices might be more common in which provinces. Do you want hints for assembling your army, or painting it?
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