Topic: Magic the gathering...gathering thread

[Finlay]

he’s quite good for 2 mana, but doesn’t seem annoying or broken.
 maybe they’re mainly releasing spoilers for rares at the moment.

[rufus sparkfire]

Are you accusing me of complaining about nothing! Ha ha.

Hmm, no ghosts so far. Where are the ghosts?

[Finlay]

I’m saying maybe the set wont be as bad as we fear when we see it all! Maybe those 3 creatures you picked out are the worst/most efficient, and we’ll just ban them. Or maybe we’ll have to ban 10 creatures, but even so it still wouldn’t be too bad.

The bird I posted and the human you posted are good, but they’re not bent, game breaking and annoying to face.

[rufus sparkfire]

I am just prone to overreacting about these sorts of things!

At least it means all the mirrodin stuff will be gone from standard. No more poisonous robot zombie priests or whatever the hell it was all about.

[Siberius]

Any of you have Geist of St Taft  but need a Liliana?

Both from Innistrad...

[towishimp]

Hmm, no ghosts so far. Where are the ghosts?

They'll be in the next set, when the Orzhov are covered.

They do seem to be spoiling mostly rares...I'd like to see more commons and uncommons.

[rufus sparkfire]

Any of you have Geist of St Taft  but need a Liliana?

Both from Innistrad...

Sorry, no spares!



More previews:

Mass oblivion ring!



Counter that can't be countered.



And....this!

[BAWTRM]

That Mana cost symbol for the Judge's Familiar, does that mean it can be cast for either 1 white or 1 blue mana? That would actually make it cheaper than if it cost 1 mana of a particular colour.

[rufus sparkfire]

That Mana cost symbol for the Judge's Familiar, does that mean it can be cast for either 1 white or 1 blue mana? That would actually make it cheaper than if it cost 1 mana of a particular colour.

Yes. They call those hybrid cards. I think they originated in the first Ravnica block, quite some time ago. They were also in Lorwyn/Shadowmoor.

[Fandir Nightshade]

That epic experiment is very broken if you construct the deck.....same with the counterspell I counter all your spells this turn oh and you can´t counter this.

[rufus sparkfire]

That epic experiment is very broken if you construct the deck.....same with the counterspell I counter all your spells this turn oh and you can´t counter this.

Epic experiment has a cool name!

The counterspell only counters spells that are on the stack when you cast it. So it won't get to counter more than one spell except in unusual circumstances (things like cascade or replicate).

[Siberius]

I believe there is an epic experiment equivalent im green that pulls out creatures. The mass oblivion thing though..eek

[rufus sparkfire]

Mass oblivion is good against token decks!

[Finlay]

two more rares, and a mythic rare.

Are they purposefully only spoilering rares to make people get excited about how powerful they can make their decks?

[rufus sparkfire]

I suppose so. I didn't realise there were this many rares in a set though! Is this a normal number?

I feel as though they're saying 'here are some cards that will be way too expensive to actually buy, so you can't have them. May as well stick to the free computer program thing.'

[Siberius]

I think there are usually quite a few rares.

Plus, isn't the first set in a block way bigger than the other ones? So maybe that'd be why there seems to be so many more rares.

I don't really know though. Seems to me so far like they are just trying to make cards that slot right into Rufus's best decks. Which frankly is not good. 

[Siberius]

Just looking at Innistrad and in that set, in white alone there are 9 rares and 2 mythics out of 42 white cards.

Also 11 uncommon.

Leaving only 20 actual commons.

I just picked that colour and set at random as that was what I was on.

Incidentally, I think I know why you may not be selling cards too much. People undercut all the time. So I just went through all my rares for sale last night and re-undercut them. Already got $10 in the pot. Also I put that Liliana for sale at $500  . You never know... 

[rufus sparkfire]

Hmmm, so there are a lot of rares then.

I hardly ever sell anything even when I massively undercut everyone else!

I don't really know though. Seems to me so far like they are just trying to make cards that slot right into Rufus's best decks. Which frankly is not good. 

That sounds good to me!

[towishimp]

I suppose so. I didn't realise there were this many rares in a set though! Is this a normal number?

I believe so.  As Sibirius said, the first set of a block is usually a "big set," with way more cards them "small sets."  However, with Ravnica Block II, they're going "big set, big set, small set."  The rationale is that they're cover all ten guilds in the first two blocks, instead of making some guilds wait until the third set.  The third set will include cards from all ten guilds.

[rufus sparkfire]

Hmmm, wasn't avacyn a big set too? Maybe they'll do two big sets a block now. More chaff cards to shower everyone with!


Also, time spiral block sealed is not working well.
EDIT: game five was good, at last.

[towishimp]

Hmmm, wasn't avacyn a big set too? Maybe they'll do two big sets a block now. More chaff cards to shower everyone with!

I believe you're right about Avacyn Restored.  I appreciate them tinkering with the block structure, but I too worry that it's just an excuse to print more cards.  You might remember back in the days of Time Spiral Block, Wizards's standard was to print five sets a year: a basic set, 3 block sets, plus one "bonus release" (that year it was Cold Snap, I forget what the one before that was).  But then they stopped that model because it was "too many cards for players to keep track of" (and Cold Snap did sortof get lost in the shuffle, for a variety of reasons).  Now the plan appears to be to cram more cards in, but without adding any more than the standard 4 sets per year.

[rufus sparkfire]

Magic has always had too many cards to keep track of, hasn't it? It's impossible to keep up unless you're a total obsessive. I don't see why they need a new base set every year either.

I did wonder where cold snap fitted in. I think they need to do another snowy block... with more aurochses in it!

[Siberius]

I totally agree! Except the part about more cows...

[rufus sparkfire]

Why do you hate my cows? 


Ha ha!

[Siberius]

I have a 100% loss record vs them! (Admittedly only from one game  )


Actually I quite liked them and next time we manage to get on at the same time I wanna take them on! Maybe with fairies, that sounds amusing...