Topic: Magic the gathering...gathering thread

[Finlay]

I'm thinking about theros block edh playable stuff, to get me into the block more. of course the gods and equipments...



EDH playable. boris deck, combo with that other enchant which you guys dislike!

I wonder if the creature-buffs are good enough



bestow finisher for commander-damage? Marath would probably like this.


defo-playable



playable?



definitely playable! bant blink please






good vs grave stuff?

[rufus sparkfire]

I like most of those!

Curse of the swine is actually one of the best removal spells you can get in blue.

I don't rate godsend in EDH, and aegis of the gods will only be useful sometimes. Quarry giant needs a lot of plains to be worth it - I doubt you'd have that many in play at once in a bant deck.

The other ones are definitely worthwhile.

[rufus sparkfire]

My Lorthos deck did rather well, though I think it was mainly due to drawing extraplanar lens in both games.



It's quite good, if you use it with snow-covered land so no one else can benefit. Unless they also used snow land of course!

[Siberius]

If there is no downside to snow covered lands, I guess I may aswell replace all my basics with snows just incase...

[rufus sparkfire]

Ha!

There are downsides, but they won't come up unless people are likely to use snow lands! Ice age and coldsnap have some anti-snowland cards.

[Siberius]

Actually to save the trouble I will probably just say all my lands are snow lands at the start of each game 

[rufus sparkfire]

No way! Add the cards or it doesn't count. 

[Finlay]

If there is no downside to snow covered lands, I guess I may aswell replace all my basics with snows just incase...

Yes! They annoy me.


hmm, just went on gccg to check if i'd made a bird deck, as i thought i had. but it wont let me on.



can't decide if I should use kangee, which would make a boring/straightforward token/flying beats deck, or go for derevi and make it more interesting with birds/wizards!

[rufus sparkfire]

I thought you hated Derevi!

You had a Kangee deck at one point, but it used stuff like Moat! There are also four or so mono-white bird legends, but maybe you don't want to do mono-colour.

[Finlay]

I thought you hated Derevi!

You had a Kangee deck at one point, but it used stuff like Moat! There are also four or so mono-white bird legends, but maybe you don't want to do mono-colour.

I hated the derevi pre-con, but I used it totally unmodified. I’d probably use almost all blue and white anyway, with just some green utility splashed. And wizards! I don’t want to do mono coloured for sure. Yes I think I used Kangee in an early multiplayer game we tried. He’s a bit boring!
Wizard birds can go for flying token beats partially, but then also do wizardy-untappy stuff. Maybe. Dunno!

I’m gonna go through the other Theros colours today to find any cards…

[rufus sparkfire]

I've adopted Derevi now though! You're copying me! 

But he'd definitely be more interesting than Kangee. You can still put Kangee in the deck, and use Derevi's mana-untapping to pay for extra Kangee counters. Plus there are a couple of green or partly-green birds, including....



...one that can't fly.  Though that's a good ability!


There are lots of other excellent cards in Theros! It's a bit like Kamigamiwawa really - the theme and mechanics of the set don't quite work, but there are still plenty of interesting cards in there.

Oh, and prophet of kruphix is so good in EDH that it's practically cheating.

[Finlay]

if you ever get kruphix and the prophet out, it's almost game over man.



good in a dertevi bird deck. Token generators! massive buff

[Finlay]

Not only do I like that ability (fuck off, butcher of malakir), whippoorwills are also mentioned in Dunwich Horror. Using!

[rufus sparkfire]

whippoorwills are also mentioned in Dunwich Horror.

Are they? Ha, I don't remember that! Awesome. I wish they'd charged one more mana and given them flying (which they would these days).

I use bronzebeak in my Ghave deck! They can become massive.


Kruphix himself isn't really that good. It's his prophet that gives you superpowers. Free untaps and flash for creatures? Ridiculous.

Did you use deadeye navigator in your blink deck? That's one of the most abusive cards in EDH, and it's only 40p!

[Finlay]

I know, you've moa'd me to death at least once! it's probably better in ghave deck than my one, due to saprolings.

Apparently they nest on the ground, although aren't flightless (but don't fly well). so maybe that's why. I like that card though, it's awesome.

kruphix works insanely well with prophet thouggh, untap lands and save all mana? plus, he's still an indestructible beat stick!

yes, deadeye dick is in. I’m excited to try it! I hope it doesn’t epic fail like my sac deck.

[rufus sparkfire]

Bronzebeak is still worth it even if you can't make a million saprolings. Plus it's potentially huge if you keep some mana open, so it's good for bluffing.

Oh, maybe the no-flying thing makes sense then! It's definitely a cool card anyway. I assume the name relates to the noise they make.

Kruphix is a bit lame at attacking, since he only has power 4. Plus devotion 7 isn't that easy to maintain. I like his abilities, but I wouldn't go out of my way to use him.

Deadeye + any enter the battlefield ability is a machinegun. It can't fail!

[Finlay]

I wonder if I should buy a prophet now, or if it will go cheaper when not standard. I think I'll slap one in blink deck, as I put in some other creatures just to give flash, and she does double work! and means i can tap out, then still cast counter spells or flash creatures.

ok, i'll definitely put one in blink deck!

[rufus sparkfire]

Prophet is 2 quid, which isn't that expensive considering how good it is. I don't think it sees any standard play really - it's best in multiplayer. So probably it won't get cheaper with time. It might even go up once the set is out of print.

Deadeye wasn't played in standard either, yet a lot of people want both to be banned in EDH!

[Finlay]

I think there’s a good case for banning prophet. At least we don’t tutor her up! If deadeye is gross I’ll take him out.

Or I’ll just blink draining whelk at you with training ground out, for U costed repeateable counterspells, which can evade removal.

[rufus sparkfire]

Mystic snake is a counterspell on a creature too! I'd complain about that, but I've used it with deadeye myself. 

We'll see how it goes!

[Finlay]

mystic snake is in as well, don'tcha worry about that!

[rufus sparkfire]

Oh dear. 

I'd better use sudden spoiling and those other split second spells.

[Finlay]

is it worth slapping derevi in?

I'm already one card over

[rufus sparkfire]

No, Derevi does nothing for the blink theme. Save him for bird tribal.

[Finlay]

ok. it's done then, as I added a prophet, when I already had one!

cards I’m wondering about cutting: chromatic lantern, behemoth sledge, armadillo cloak, genesis wave, and maybe some blink “instants”, as I have 6.