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Siberius · « **Reply #5775 on:** November 01, 2014, 03:49:42 PM »

Just made my own Sidisi deck. I was gonna use mimeoplasm but I only would have been doing it because fin has sidisi so I didn't.

Finlay · « **Reply #5776 on:** November 01, 2014, 06:29:44 PM »

Ok, can we make sure no sidisI vs sidisi fights!

That white guy is Linda annoying, but I can see why they want to put in abilities to stop things which r hard to stop, like that light house too

Just annnoyibg as I can't afford the white removal for roon!

Siberius · « **Reply #5777 on:** November 01, 2014, 07:10:30 PM »

I don't think we have played head to head for months so we will probably be fine. Plus I have many many to choose from. Just wanted to try graveyarding a bit.

Finlay · « **Reply #5778 on:** November 01, 2014, 07:27:23 PM »

I'm liking magic again now, so expecting to be on at least 3 times a week

Siberius · « **Reply #5779 on:** November 01, 2014, 09:00:28 PM »

Nice! I am actually on right now.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5780 on:** November 01, 2014, 09:34:29 PM »

Living death!

I'm really looking forward to the red version now.

Siberius · « **Reply #5781 on:** November 02, 2014, 02:06:12 AM »

Maybe we are not cut out for 3 player... Either it turns into a grind that everyone wants to kill themselves in or is an insatisfying trouncing.

Perhaps we are not cut-throat enough at the format or something so we end up treading this weird line of not getting anywhere or feeling like we cheated our way to victory.

Should we just take turns at 2 player?

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5782 on:** November 02, 2014, 10:07:13 AM »

Early images from Fate Reforged!

Another RUG commander!

Die, dragons! Or non-dragons.

Quote from: Siby

Maybe we are not cut out for 3 player... Either it turns into a grind that everyone wants to kill themselves in or is an insatisfying trouncing.

It's been fine sometimes. I was annoyed about that last game because I was hit with all the removal, then was attacked by both of you because 'you couldn't attack the other one.' Playing 1 vs 2 sucks.

In 2 player you just attack the other guy. In 3, you get a weird, sort-of-political-but-not really situation where either no one wants to attack or two gang up on the other one.

So maybe either 2 or 4 player games are best. But we can still try 3 player if we're in the right mood!

Siberius · « **Reply #5783 on:** November 02, 2014, 02:30:38 PM »

Are you sure? Almost every 3 player I can remember has resulted in at least one or two of us asking if we should just give up. The only reason it didn't happen last night with cannon was that his and my decks were so big or die that they forced early wins. And even then you had a bad time because you ended up on the receiving end and that feels even less fun in multiplayer.

You often don't get done in by it because you have a good deflector which means the other guys don't attack you but honestly what were me and cannon supposed to do? Attack each other and trade dragons whilst we left you unharmed to finish us off with your unblockable unkillable?

I think the only way we can play 3 player with any success is if we accept that it can be a painful and sometimes long experience. And maybe tap out faster if we are just gonna spend half an hour losing so we can get on with a new game.

Siberius · « **Reply #5784 on:** November 02, 2014, 07:00:37 PM »

Also, coloured abilities mean you can use those as your general's colours?! Are there any more legends like that?

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5785 on:** November 02, 2014, 07:42:38 PM »

Quote from: Siberius on November 02, 2014, 07:00:37 PM

Also, coloured abilities mean you can use those as your general's colours?! Are there any more legends like that?

Yes! It's a green card, but its colour identity for EDH is RUG. It's a clever way to give us more wedge legends.

I think there have been a couple of legends with activated abilities in different colours. There's a different Rhyss which is green with a black ability. Maybe some others too.

Siberius · « **Reply #5786 on:** November 03, 2014, 12:45:16 AM »

Nice!I am on now cannon if you happen to be free

Cannonofdoom · « **Reply #5787 on:** November 03, 2014, 01:05:07 AM »

Quote from: Siberius on November 03, 2014, 12:45:16 AM

Nice!I am on now cannon if you happen to be free

I am on my way to buy my wife a sandwich, after which I shall be free.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5788 on:** November 03, 2014, 10:00:46 AM »

Next Dual Deck = Elspeth vs Kiora.

The set after Fate Reforged is DRAGONS of TARKIR.

There will be a colourless basic land!

I haven't bought a duel deck since Izzet vs Golgari (which was great). I want this one!

Siberius · « **Reply #5789 on:** November 03, 2014, 10:59:51 PM »

Did you post this one already? Bit rufusy!

This reminds me of those Llorwyn lands.

Siberius · « **Reply #5790 on:** November 04, 2014, 12:11:00 AM »

Also, I am on!

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5791 on:** November 04, 2014, 02:20:21 PM »

I have seen those, yes! New sea monsters are always good.

Flamekin village is worth including even in decks with no elementals. Haste without having to spend a non-land card on it is good!

Article on the wizards site about the four existing Jeskai commanders. They really are a horrible lot! I hope Fate Reforged adds one that isn't determined to troll the game.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/sf/jeskai-four-2014-11-04

Also, look at the decklist for the dragon! That deck would cost many hundreds of pounds. That's the kind of powergaming nonsense we'd end up with if we played without price restrictions on our cards.

Cannonofdoom · « **Reply #5792 on:** November 05, 2014, 05:50:26 AM »

Quote from: rufus sparkfire on November 04, 2014, 02:20:21 PM

Also, look at the decklist for the dragon! That deck would cost many hundreds of pounds. That's the kind of powergaming nonsense we'd end up with if we played without price restrictions on our cards.

I don't think that's true. Siby and I play each other all the time without price restrictions and we don't powergame.

Maybe take a good long look in the mirror, rufus. Ask yourself who the real powergamer is.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5793 on:** November 05, 2014, 09:23:22 AM »

That makes no sense.

With the exception of some of the very early cards, anything that is expensive is powerful.

Finlay · « **Reply #5794 on:** November 05, 2014, 09:25:28 AM »

Ironically, theyve messed up the magic site to make it easier to view on mobile devices, yet yhe decklists display horribly on my tablet

Siberius · « **Reply #5795 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:51:32 AM »

Quote from: rufus sparkfire on November 05, 2014, 09:23:22 AM

That makes no sense.

With the exception of some of the very early cards, anything that is expensive is powerful.

There is a difference between powerful and powergame. We all use powerful cards. Power is mostly but not always dictated by price. As we have gone over many a time before there are quite a few powergamey cards that slip under the money limit.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5796 on:** November 05, 2014, 10:56:38 AM »

You never come out and say which ones they are! Or which expensive cards you think are fine.

The decklist I linked to includes some of the worse EDH offenders: consecrated sphinx, sensei's divining top, crucible of worlds, swords of X and Y, original dual lands, sneak attack.

Siberius · « **Reply #5797 on:** November 05, 2014, 09:45:45 PM »

Well normally I can't be bothered to look it up but here are some cards that fit under our rules but I think are generally considered powergamey etc:

Zur the Enchanter
Rafiq
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind (only 2.60!)
Uril
Sharuum the Hegemon (1.00!)
Edric (1.20)
Strip Mine
Serra Ascendant

Ok that's all I am putting up for now as I can't be bothered to do more searching. It is easiest to pin point the generals as there are way more online discussions. A lot of the non commanders are trickier to define as over or under powered.

Cannonofdoom · « **Reply #5798 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:08:43 PM »

That free mind control spell you used was pretty beardy but it seemed to be the only way you could stop my insanely OP merfolk/griffin azorius deck.

Islandwalk is strong.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #5799 on:** November 05, 2014, 11:27:38 PM »

It's true that some powergamey things are cheaper than the limit, but I was more interesting in hearing about things that cost more than the limit but aren't powergamey! Since I thought that was your argument

But, never mind.

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