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Re: Warhammer Community Survey
« Reply #75 on: January 07, 2018, 06:57:48 PM »
👆 the unit sizes were getting extreme. However I was reading a thread in TGA about the fireslayers and they were talking normally about units of 90 to be really effective (!?). To me that’s insane and it takes away from having lots of variables. Not to say this is the norm of AoS but that shocked me.

This. I was interested in using AoS as a skirmish system for the old setting. Finding that there were no point values and seeing some units got bonuses for being 20/30+ killed my initial curiosity.
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« Reply #76 on: January 07, 2018, 09:14:40 PM »
Adding another new fantasy race would take a fair bit of explaining and need to be shoehorned in. Why is there suddenly a big kingdom of things in an area that's never been there before?

Thats precisely what Ogre Kingdoms were. I remember the scepticism when they were added in 6th, and I also liked how balanced they actually made them. Until 8th edition that is.


There were quite a few possible ways of adding new armies creatively speaking - just look what CA did with Norsca. There was always Cathay and Araby that they could have added, not to mention proper Chaos Dwarfs and Dogs of War. If only they've created an entry level game ala Mordheim, to tempt in new blodd all could have been well. 
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« Reply #77 on: January 07, 2018, 09:19:23 PM »
I hope enough folks commented on the survey regarding a return to Olde World that it happens some day.
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« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2018, 11:56:59 AM »
👆 the unit sizes were getting extreme. However I was reading a thread in TGA about the fireslayers and they were talking normally about units of 90 to be really effective (!?). To me that’s insane and it takes away from having lots of variables. Not to say this is the norm of AoS but that shocked me.

None of the Fyreslayers units can be larger than 30 in matched play.  This is the typical maximum size for most infantry battleline units in the game.  Only a handful are 40, and those are generally weak, and cheap boxes.  And only Grots (Goblins) and zombies go above that to 60.

It is concerning in the General's Handbook that some units if they take the maximum size get a points discount, as if to encourage bugger units, but I've not really seen that used in many army builds I've seen in use.   I think around half the matched play battleplans have objectives that can be won by having the most number of models within range, and it's competitive armies that I've seen larger units.  However, large units are arguably more suspectible to battleshock


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Re: Warhammer Community Survey
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2018, 12:19:49 PM »
I hope enough folks commented on the survey regarding a return to Olde World that it happens some day.

I don't think Age of Sigmar will be dropped to bring back Warhammer Fantasy Battle in the World That Was.   

I suspect there is a possibility that apart from anthologies and re-issues there might be occasional new Black Library fiction, but that'll be even less frequent than new Age of Sigmar fiction, and nothing looks to be in the pipeline.

After that, it's a possibility that they may bring back a sort of WFB either as a special edition limited book, as well as a limited armies book more likely under the Forgeworld or Specialist Games brand, and tied in with occasional Made to Order releases of old miniatures.

I do think when Specialist Games get around to making Mordheim it will be set in Mordheim, and that may be their likely way of exploring the World That Was.

Other than that, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th edition is arriving this year by Cubicle 7, and with a ruleset that looks set to be their idea of an improved 1st/2nd edition, and from clues set just before The End Times.   

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« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2018, 12:49:25 PM »
Thanks for the clarification , oxycuter. Three units of 30 does become a choice of units as opposed to having to field that many. I’ll have to go back to reread that thread.
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« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2018, 01:03:03 PM »
I don't think WAoS will be dropped to bring back WFB either, and even if they did, I hope they don't call it The World That Was when its been called the Olde World all these years.

I'm so not into the WAoS fluff, that the likelihood I'll pick up a WAoS fluff book is slim to none, and so if they never write any, I won't be disappointed.

And the mention of WHRP 4th edition, yep, let's hope it isn't set in WAoS.
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« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2018, 01:08:39 PM »


And the mention of WHRP 4th edition, yep, let's hope it isn't set in WAoS.
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« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2018, 02:37:58 PM »


And the mention of WHRP 4th edition, yep, let's hope it isn't set in WAoS.
There'll be two:
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EDIT:I don't think GW will bring Warhammer back as Gw is too much incompetent.

They should. The last couple of years were awesome, when it came to promoting the Old World. I've heard unconfirmed tales about releasing a AoS supplement which will allow the players to run games in the Old World. It's still a year or two away, tough.
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« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2018, 01:13:50 PM »
If there is enough demand and staying power, running WAoS in the Olde World can happen.
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« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2018, 11:08:16 PM »
Warhammer setting should run in Warhammer rules not in the game that cancelled it and that's only able to steal game ideas, artworks...from it! :ph34r:

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« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2018, 11:38:00 PM »
WAoS means Warhammer: Age of Sigmar.  It is still intended to be a Warhammer setting and rules, and just like with 40K when the editions change the setting continues to move forward, there isn't anything to say that WAoS couldn't also do the same thing.  My concern isn't with the newest set of fantasy rules, which by the way are continually changing as well, but with the idea that they destroyed the Olde World as part of their transition into using the new rules.
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« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2018, 12:36:06 PM »
Warhammer setting should run in Warhammer rules not in the game that cancelled it and that's only able to steal game ideas, artworks...from it! :ph34r:

Yeah, but I, for one, would hate to see the clunky, convoluted and downright broken (High Elves!) rules for the 8th edition, making a comeback. Say what you will about AoS (I'm not a fan. Yet...), but its rules are 10 times better than any of the older WFB rulesets ever were.

If that's what it takes to bring the Old World back, then count me in. Exitus acta probat.
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Re: Warhammer Community Survey
« Reply #88 on: January 15, 2018, 02:37:39 PM »
just get rid of the round bases  :closed-eyes:
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« Reply #89 on: January 15, 2018, 04:18:48 PM »
just get ride of the round bases  :closed-eyes:
But round bases are easier to ride on than square.
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« Reply #90 on: January 15, 2018, 04:52:32 PM »
I still put all my models on square bases, even the AoS stuff. Things just look so great when their all carefully ranked up. That said, round bases are great for showing off characters without having to worry about space.

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« Reply #91 on: February 02, 2018, 01:16:55 PM »
just get ride of the round bases  :closed-eyes:
But round bases are easier to ride on than square.

I must say, round bases are much, much better. Especially when the models are holding their weapons wide or have wings or such.
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