Topic: 2000 pts Tournament List

[Albrecht von Hinkel]

Here's the list I'm thinking about using at the next tournament. I wanted more men but I don't have time so here's the list:

Lords:

Elector Count with great weapon, Van Horstmann's Speculum, Holy Relic, Armour of Meteoric Iron
Total: 186
(Leading the Swordsmen)
Heroes:

Battle Standard Bearer with Banner of Sigismund, full plate armour
Total: 143
(Assigned to the Swordsmen)

Battle Wizard with 2 dispel scrolls
Total: 110

Battle Wizard with Seal of Destruction
Total: 110


Core units:

35 spearmen with full command carrying Griffon Banner
Total: 320

23 swordsmen with full command
Total: 186

25 halberdiers with full command
Total: 175

20 free companies divided into 2 detachments (not sure who's gonna lead them)
Total: 100

10 crossbowmen (I'm not sure who they are gonna be detachment for)
Total: 80

5 foresters
Total: 50

8 Inner Circle Knights with full command carrying Steel Banner
Total: 273

Special Units:

2 cannons
Total: 200

5 pistoliers, Marksman with Repeater Pistol
Total: 112

Total: 1995

Models in army: 141
Dispel dice: 4
Power dice: 4
Total for characters: 549
Total for core: 1134
Total for special: 312
Total for rare: 0

Little rough list but nice enough, what' ya think?

[intrepidjohnny]

hmm...no helblasters... weird

[Atchman]

I like the Steel Banner in your Knights, but I think the War Banner is a better choice.  You may even want to take the Knight Unit down to 6 and use the almost 50 pts for more detachments.  A 5 man archer detachment would be nice.  You could either march block or screen one of your troop blocks from missile spells and shooting.  

I'm a big fan of the Seal of Destruction.  I like to try it on my enemy's best spell.  Makes them "gunshy" the next game.  Nice if you get rid of a Skaven Warlocks only spell!

[Albrecht von Hinkel]

yep, no helblasters. I like more troops then lots of artillery. And yes, I love the Seal of Destruction (made my opponent lose the VC incantation spell BWAHAHA). If I had the time I would have had more march blockers (and another squad of pistoliers) but since the tournament is in less then 3 weeks I have to limit myself to just paint 5 crossbowmen, 14 militia, 1 wizard and 1 standard bearer... so... And yeah, I was thinking about the War Banner, and overall I think thats the best idea, cuz that extra D3 charge range hasn't helped me too much so...

[BrunoAvena]

Here goes what i used in my last game against a VC army, and what will probably be the core of my army in the august tournament.

- Elector Count Adolf Hermann, on foot, leading the spearmen, with:
Fullplate Armour, Sword of Power, Enchanted Shield, Holy Relic / 187pts
- Battle Wizard, Lvl 1, with 2 dispel scrolls. / 110 pts
- Battle Wizard, Lvl 1, with 2 dispel scrolls. / 110 pts
- Warrior Priest: Heavy Armour, Great Weapon, Barded Warhorse, Icon of Magnus, leading the Knights of the Blazing Sun  / 147 pts
- 26 Spearmen Count's Troops: standard bearer and musician (banner of griffon) / 247 pts
- 19 Swordsmen: full command. Detachment: Free Company - 9 / 203 pts
- 9 Knights of the Blazing Sun: inner circle, full command / 274 pts
- 8 Knights of the White Wolf: inner circle, full command, war banner (+1 CR) / 289 pts
- Great Cannon / 100 pts
- Great Cannon / 100 pts
- Hellblaster Volley Gun / 125 pts
- 10 Huntsmen: with marksman / 106 pts
Casting Pool: 4
Dispel Pool: 5

This gave me a victory by massacre, more than 2500 victory points, but i'm unsure about other armies. If i had enough models i would raise the number of swordsmen and place new detachments. My magic phase is totally defensive, the artillery is for support, i have no handgunners to give me more tactical options, like go offensive. What do you think?

[IH8Skaven]

One thing I seem to see in alot of Empire armies that are talked about is them posessing a BSB with no unit of GreatSwords.  Or vice versa.  

A BSB is good.

A unit of Greatswords are good.  

Combine the two in the same army and you have got something great:  Stubborn w/a reroll.

[Albrecht von Hinkel]

If you want to you could have a unit of greatswords with BSB with warbanner or Griffon Banner (with a detachment so they can pursue though), just think of that.

[IH8Skaven]

Why give the Griffon Banner to troops who are stubborn if they lose and have good killing power, when you have an EC leading your army and you can give it to troops that could benefit more from the CR boost?  Is there something there that I am not considering?

[Albrecht von Hinkel]

Just a really hard hitting unit.