warlord, thanks for thinking of me, I am on holiday and just now saw this so I probably would have been too late anyway. But thanks again. to answer first question, I am guessing maybe around (I was having a senior moment, during typing the reply I was side tracked into a conversation abut Ogres, and when I said 150-200 I was thinking Ogres. Birdmen you are about right on I think I have about 50, I have never had them all in one place at one time in order to count them)150-200 all told. I will probably post more pictures after I finish a few more. steveb