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Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Midaski on February 27, 2005, 11:49:43 AM: We are always having discussions about non GW miniatures from various manufacturers around the world. In fact our own Imperial Forge seems to spend most of his free time surfing on our behalf.

Lots of interesting stuff has disappeared into the depths of the back pages of the Electors' Forum, which is a waste.

It has been decided that it would be a useful addition to the forums to have one thread where we can allow members to post up pics of various miniatures for comparison.

The nicest and most helpful way to do this is to show minis from different ranges alongside each other. That allows for a direct view of size, detail and proportion.
For example: A Redoubt and/or Foundry Renaissance Infantry figure alongside a GW Spearman.
Similarly a Foundry Knight alongside a GW Knight.

Please do your best, when posting the images, to make sure that any pics do not affect the width of the whole thread. You can 'test' the appearance with the Preview button.

Please also add comments about your opinions of the models, and post a link to sites if you wish. Location, availability and cost may also be other things you may wish to point out.

Please can we also restrict this to a 'reference thread' and refrain from clogging it up with replies that just say things like 'Nice'
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 27, 2005, 02:29:50 PM: From t'other thread

Here we are - sorry for the blury shot, but there's too many buttons on this damned camera..!

GW Spearmen Vs Redoubt pike
(http://www.atholls.freeola.com/comp0006.JPG)

Old Foundry late c17th Halberdier (on a par with Foundry ECW), GW plastic, and Foundry "Mercenary Pikeman"
(http://www.atholls.freeola.com/comp0001.JPG)

GW Pistolier Vs Redoubt Cuirasier
(http://www.atholls.freeola.com/comp0003.JPG)
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: GT on February 28, 2005, 05:07:46 AM: Gamezone (GZ) Miniatures www.gamezoneminiatures.com

GW plastic halberdier, GZ halberdier on std base, GZ halberdier on GW base.

(http://users.tpg.com.au/gandnt/pics/halberdierscomp.jpg)

GW plastic handgunner, GW metal handgunner oop, GZ handgunner on std base, GZ handgunner on GW base.

(http://users.tpg.com.au/gandnt/pics/handgunnerscomp.jpg)

GW metal pistolier, GW plastic kit bashed pistolier, GZ pistolier.

(http://users.tpg.com.au/gandnt/pics/pistolierscomp.jpg)

And front views of the same models.

(http://users.tpg.com.au/gandnt/pics/pistolierscomp2.jpg)

GW Pirazzo Lost Legion pike, GZ halberdier on std base, GZ halberdier on GW base.

(http://users.tpg.com.au/gandnt/pics/pikecomp.jpg)

Note on this last pic that the middle GZ halberdier is the same size as the old style GW pike, i.e. 25mm, while the GZ halberdier on the right is more 28mm in size.

Cheers,

GT
tDoW
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: imperialforge on February 28, 2005, 07:28:59 AM: Some more comparison pics:

(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2h4x8/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/comparison.jpg)
Title: Non-GW-minis
Post by: Ludowik of Bogenhafen on May 30, 2005, 01:07:35 PM: Those Gamezoneminis are the sh*t! Any way I was looking for some new Helabadiers( no clue how to spell) Since I allready have a unit of Foundry Handgunners, these fighters will make my Bogenhafen army mor unique. . .by the awy Gamezone bretonians seem to by also quite good...
Anyhow, I really like GWminis, but in order to build a unique army, that will be remembered by all enemys, not only because of the beating they got, every one should add at least one or two not GW minitures/ conversions, e.g. champions, generals, mussicians. . .
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: beastmage on August 01, 2005, 09:15:05 AM: On the subject of other mini does anybody know were I can get some half decent Greek looking pike men?

I saw a great DoW army and might be some funn converting a greek theme through it,

btw id prefer if they were the same size as regular GW figs,

Cheers,

Beastmage
Title: Re: Non-GW-minis
Post by: AldebrandLudenhof on August 01, 2005, 01:59:09 PM: Quote from: Ludowik of Bogenhafen
Those Gamezoneminis are the sh*t!

I quite like the pistolier one actualy.

Anyway, the post is just to say Imperial Forge's pics come up as a box with a red cross for me.
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: King on December 03, 2005, 02:51:40 PM: I checked the GZ site and they do have many great models, but I could not find out how many miniatures you get per purchase, ie: â‚¬6.75 buys you how many halberdiers for example? Does anyone know where I can check in order to get this information on their site please?
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Siamtiger on March 07, 2006, 01:00:31 PM: Quote from: King
I checked the GZ site and they do have many great models, but I could not find out how many miniatures you get per purchase, ie: â‚¬6.75 buys you how many halberdiers for example? Does anyone know where I can check in order to get this information on their site please?

Sorry for Thread-digging but afaik you get 3 of them in one blister.

(http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/Media/Shop/GZ_02-30.jpg)

(http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/Media/Shop/GZ_02-31.jpg)
Title: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: King on March 08, 2006, 11:50:00 AM: Better late than never :wink: Thanks alot!
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Karu on April 29, 2006, 11:17:26 PM: Quote from: beastmage on August 01, 2005, 09:15:05 AM
On the subject of other mini does anybody know were I can get some half decent Greek looking pike men?

I saw a great DoW army and might be some funn converting a greek theme through it,

btw id prefer if they were the same size as regular GW figs,

Cheers,

Beastmage

Black Tree Design (http://www.black-tree-design.com) has nice Greeks. Particulary Spartan Hoplites look great as pikemen. They are 28mm, so they should be roughly the same size as GW minis. They have some good Romans too.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Amish Elector on August 03, 2006, 11:28:11 PM: The GZ halberds look a loot like vintage GWs, and the handgunners look decent as well, with a little conversion and an empire paint job itll be hard to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: elite_dannux on August 10, 2006, 05:56:17 PM: here are some weapons, the muskets are the best ones.

http://www.frontrank.com/nap_equipment_frm.html

at the bottom of the page there are a musket with bayonet that can be bought separately.

the minis are 28mm so they should have roughly the same size as gw minis.

there are allot of minis in different "ages" all from medieval to napoleonic ranges.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soju on April 03, 2007, 10:57:06 PM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/800600-UNITS1.jpg)

sj
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soju on May 07, 2007, 09:21:55 AM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/P1040230.jpg~original)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/P1040232.jpg)

sj

EDIT: I think they were... Renegade miniatures, ECW range... the plastic pistolier, is Warhammer stuff mish mashed.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: LochNESS on June 13, 2007, 10:49:19 PM: What brand are those last pistoliers? And what do they cost? Or are they Dogs of War fast Cavalry?
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Kriegspiel on August 23, 2007, 05:24:44 PM: Not really a comparison post as such but just to say Foundry are having a 20% off everything sale this weekend - 23rd to 27th of August - some good stuff there specially the Reinassiance Mercenaries - Perry Twins goodness ! :smile2:
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Victor on September 02, 2007, 01:07:08 PM: Could anyone post a comparison between the old horses (barded and unbarded) and the new Pistolier/Outrider ones? I would appreciate it. :-)
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soju on September 02, 2007, 09:07:56 PM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/P1040606.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/P1040604.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/P1040607.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/MF3000/DIFFERENT%20MINIS/P1040609.jpg)

sj
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Sigmork on September 03, 2007, 09:23:10 AM: Bloody hell, they're the size of shire horses, look at the proper comparison:
(http://www.bluegrasshorsefeed.com/images/declangreece.jpg)

This is the way GW is going(But with a full grown man):
(http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/65/95/23509565.jpg)

See shire horse:
(http://www.wwmm.org/immagini/1105.jpg)
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Victor on September 03, 2007, 01:06:43 PM: Thank you Soju. :-)

I said to myself, if someone is going to post a pic, I bet it`s going to be Soju.
I was right. :-D
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Donnachaidh on September 05, 2007, 08:54:47 AM: Here's a 6'4" guy on a 16h1 Clydesdale (similar to the Destrier in build)

(http://www.xvld.org/images/Farnham/XVLD04.jpg)

The important thing with horses is you need to be able to get on them.

And if you are un-horsed on a battlefield, you need to be able to get back on again quick smart.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 12, 2007, 03:04:55 PM: Pics moved here: http://023.110mb.com/
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soju on October 12, 2007, 07:48:29 PM: 023 - cheers for that. I always wanted to see Old Glory and Foundry mini stacked next to GW stuff.

sj
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 15, 2007, 12:02:44 PM: Pics moved here: http://023.110mb.com/
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Midaski on October 15, 2007, 03:50:03 PM: This is great stuff '023' - exactly what the thread is all about.

Many Thanks
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: steveb on October 15, 2007, 09:48:51 PM: game zone figures look great when put on gw bases, the clear ones the come with are pretty flat. There is a US supplier that I have bought from, he seems to carry the whole line, at least the Emperio figures. it is FRP games, he does have a web site and you can buy on line, he is located out in california. the game zone figures paint up veryyyyyyy nicely. steveb
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2007, 12:18:47 AM: I've only seen the Gamezone figures online. I'd like to pick some up eventually. Some of them look great.

As far as the figures I posted, here's some links:

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=5&sub=16&page=1

http://www.frontrank.com/medieval.html

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/index.asp

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/categories.asp?cat=184

The Crusader & Front Rank are from their Wars of the Roses lines, which are just slightly pre-landsknecht, but still go fairly well with the Empire figures, especially the "knights." (I happen to be pulling together figures to use for WotR and the Burgundian/Swiss wars historical gaming, so I'll have some overlap.)

The Foundry figures are from their Renaissance range. They have them split up kind of strangely, so poke around their site a bit. There's also Spanish figures, for those preferring that style. They also have a WotR range as well.

The Old Glory figures are from their Italian Wars range, but you can use the Swiss, and again, WoTR as well. OG figures are sometimes not quite up to the quality of some of the other figures, but most of the Italian Wars figures are really pretty good, paint up well, and are about 1/3 the price (at least here in the US.)
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: offroadfury88 on October 16, 2007, 12:45:43 AM: you out of most of hte minis present, I like the GW ones the best, even above the Gamezone stuff. I do really like the foundry pikes though. I will be checking those guys out for my army.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Nix on November 13, 2007, 08:20:21 PM: Here is a comparison of some Zvezda plastic minis. Hope it will be useful.

Swordsmen comparison. Zvezda infantry can be also assembled as spearmen, halberdiers, archers and crossbowmen.

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Nix2081/inf_compare.jpg)

Cavalry comparison. Zvezda horsemen can be armed with lances, spears, several hand weapon options, bows and crossbows. There are light and heavy armored bodies.

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Nix2081/cav_compare.jpg)

Horse comparison. Barding and saddle are glued separately, so you can make barded or unbarded horse.

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Nix2081/horse_compare.jpg)
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ekilday on November 14, 2007, 05:10:36 PM: The difference in horse sizes depends on weather or not they are a part of heavy cavalry the size of a Shire horse or light cavalry which is a smaller faster horse.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 13, 2008, 09:46:13 PM: Don't know if anyone's posted or spotted this site before, but I just stumbled across it:

http://renaissanceminiatures.blogspot.com/

There's photos compating miniatures there.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Guildenstern on March 03, 2008, 11:09:59 PM: Ral Partha (on right) vs Citadel
(http://lh3.google.de/andreas.friedmann/R8yDOnL4yaI/AAAAAAAABfg/vr5gswHNLug/s400/IMG_0748.JPG)
actually the ral partha ranger has almost the same height when I put him on a base. But he still looks thin and tiny.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Shadoweyed on March 07, 2008, 07:30:58 PM: I was looking on the Orc Forum and ran into a guy that used Mini's from a company called West Wind. They are not too great with the human models, but they definitely have some good models specifically for 25mm to 28mm games.

http://z3.invisionfree.com/Orc__Goblin_Warpath/index.php?showtopic=17659&st=15 (http://z3.invisionfree.com/Orc__Goblin_Warpath/index.php?showtopic=17659&st=15)

-Shadoweyed
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Shinken on April 16, 2008, 10:11:10 PM: Could anyone post a comparison between Renegade miniatures and FOundry miniatures?

I would appreciate!

Thanks a lot!

Shinken
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: patsy02 on April 24, 2008, 10:30:12 AM: Those svezda knights/horses are hot.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Kriegspiel on May 01, 2008, 08:06:26 PM: Any one have comparison picks of the Gamezone Imperial General and Warrior Priest figures with GW knights ?

And do the sculpts and poses of these figures cause problems when placing them in units with other figures - the Generals cape and the WP " dying horse " sculpt .

Thanks
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: steveb on May 13, 2008, 05:29:35 PM: The front rank of pistoliers are Game zone and the back rank ar GW, they blend right in when ranked up with the GW stuff, not shown here but I switched some riders GW on GZ and GZ on GW and it works. steveb
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 19, 2008, 09:09:43 PM: Quote from: Shinken on April 16, 2008, 10:11:10 PM
Could anyone post a comparison between Renegade miniatures and FOundry miniatures?

I don't have my camera right now, I will try to get some pics in the future. But comparing the Foundry landsknecht infantry I previously posted compared to the Renegade WWI French (those are the only Renegade figures I've got), the Renegade are a little larger than the Foundry.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 21, 2008, 12:56:49 PM: (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/mburg/renvsfnd.jpg~original)

Here's a pair of Foundry Landsknechts compared to a pair of Renegade WWI Early War French (that's the only range of Renegade figures I have.)

Note that the Foundry are on taller plastic bases than the Renegade, but still look a little shorter. The rest of the proportions seem similar. The Renegade figure are slightly larger, but not to a huge degree. Both manufacturers have a fairly consistant (high) quality as well, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soju on May 21, 2008, 09:30:51 PM: That's some nice minis you got there! I want some WW1 or even 'imperial' models... but I can't find any good ranges...

sj
Title: New Miniature Comparisons -
Post by: sambofred on June 24, 2008, 05:58:48 AM: (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/sambofred/003.jpg~original)
The girl in the middle is a Shadow Forge mini - She looks tiny but she is in scale. The sculpt isnt bad either.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/sambofred/002.jpg)
The Girl in the middle is a Dark Ages Warlord mini -
The sculpt is bad. Her legs should be shorter and the armour should make her bulkier - I have 9 of em that will soon find there way to the 'bay.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: New Miniature Comparisons -
Post by: Soju on June 24, 2008, 06:55:05 AM: Why not add to the current thread?

sj
Title: Re: New Miniature Comparisons -
Post by: imperialforge on June 24, 2008, 08:10:44 AM: Quote from: Soju on June 24, 2008, 06:55:05 AM
Why not add to the current thread?

sj

Indeed. Topics merged.
@sambofred: Please check the forum before double-posting. This thread already exists, so there was no need to make a "second" one.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soju on June 24, 2008, 10:29:55 AM: Thanks for the comparison with the Freebooter Minis (I know, they are quite expensive... lol) but they are definitely good models. What do you reckon the level of face sculpt for Freebooter Minis are? I always saw the paintjobs on the CMON stores, as some what ... featureless.

sj
Title: Re: New Miniature Comparisons -
Post by: sambofred on June 24, 2008, 02:16:57 PM: Quote from: imperialforge on June 24, 2008, 08:10:44 AM
Quote from: Soju on June 24, 2008, 06:55:05 AM
Why not add to the current thread?

sj

Indeed. Topics merged.
@sambofred: Please check the forum before double-posting. This thread already exists, so there was no need to make a "second" one.
Wasnt sure if I could continue to add to the current thread. And, if I did, how many people would know that it was recently updated. Anyhow, kind of new to this 'forum' thing so I did what was easiest for me...which was a new thread :smile2:
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: sambofred on June 24, 2008, 02:21:47 PM: Quote from: Soju on June 24, 2008, 10:29:55 AM
Thanks for the comparison with the Freebooter Minis (I know, they are quite expensive... lol) but they are definitely good models. What do you reckon the level of face sculpt for Freebooter Minis are? I always saw the paintjobs on the CMON stores, as some what ... featureless.

sj
The face sculpts seem fine to me. Not as 'deep' maybe as a GW sculpt, but still a great mini. I ordered mine through
'thewarstore.com' - the pics on the site are what sold me on the mini's - the paint jobs are fantastic.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 04, 2009, 11:50:49 PM: Since I've put this elsewhere and it seems that all my old photos are screwed up now, I'll just post a link to the web page I've just started arranging to collect comparison shots:

http://023.110mb.com/

I've barely started this, though. So it's still small and a bit rough around the edges. I will do more ASAP. All the previously posted Empire, medieval & renaissance photos should be there though.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 26, 2009, 06:53:02 PM: I hope this is the right place to ask, if not, apologies admins

But, has anyone any experience of Eureka Miniatures?

I am thinking of getting some sword and buckler men for various uses and wonderd how they rank up with other companies?

http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/100con02-swordsman-in-quilted-armour-1051-p.asp

(I originally looked at Wargames Foundry, but my word they are expensive these days!)
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 27, 2009, 08:51:10 AM: Its ok chaps, I have found some anecdotal information suggesting they are on a par with wargame foundry figures.

And besides, I have decided to buy some Vendel Border Reivers :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Midaski on February 27, 2009, 10:51:19 PM: Quote from: Uryens de Crux on February 27, 2009, 08:51:10 AM

And besides, I have decided to buy some Vendel Border Reivers :icon_lol:

I've got several of them - they're also available in their Elizabethan range (mainly the same models) if you want to buy sets of the same weapons.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 30, 2009, 12:25:27 PM: Hey 023, did you know your comparison pics were gone? :(
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: agger on April 14, 2009, 09:01:21 PM: Quote from: Nix on November 13, 2007, 08:20:21 PM
Here is a comparison of some Zvezda plastic minis. Hope it will be useful.

Swordsmen comparison. Zvezda infantry can be also assembled as spearmen, halberdiers, archers and crossbowmen.

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Nix2081/inf_compare.jpg)

Which Zvezda set contains these? They would work great as knigtly order men-at-arms! (hope i'm not tread-necromancing right now :unsure:)
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 14, 2009, 09:20:50 PM: I also wish to know!
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Inarticulate on April 14, 2009, 09:21:52 PM: I, too would like to know which set!
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 14, 2009, 09:32:33 PM: Yeah, if you look up a few more posts, I posted them all to a web site. My Phn0t0bucket account got a bit scrambled (my own doing -- sorting things out) and the links all went bad. :|

All those pics should be here:

http://023.110mb.com/

As far as the Zvezda figures, they're called "Royal Infantry" and I assume "Royal Cavalry." I previously posted some sprue pics:

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2009/03/zvezda-royal-infantry.html
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Inarticulate on April 14, 2009, 09:43:25 PM: Thanks 023.

Ive actually never looked at your blog and its rather good! :eusa_clap:
Liked the battle against the 100 strong zombie regiment!
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: agger on April 14, 2009, 09:50:47 PM: Brilliant! thank you very much!

now... do anyone know a good place to buy them? google only gave me one result, and that retailer didn't seem too promising...
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Acadian on August 05, 2009, 04:42:45 PM: Those soldiers look very promising for alternative swordsmen units.
I am interested in where to find them or buy them...
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2009, 02:51:07 AM: I was hunting for more of those figures at Historicon a couple weeks ago, since that's where I got the last batch of the figures. No luck -- no one knows about the figures anymore. :|

Hopefully sometime soon I will get to assemble and paint them. :laugh:
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Hurin Thalion on August 13, 2009, 02:01:49 AM: Those Zvezda Knights are awesome! Just wish I could FIND some! :mellow:
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Soren on August 13, 2009, 05:45:17 AM: Is it possible for TWF to host the pics that are left? Many of the pics that were here are now gone.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Hurin Thalion on August 14, 2009, 12:43:55 PM: 023, I think I owe you a :::cheers::: for the sheer awesomeness of your blog! I was unsure about those Foundry minis, but then I saw your size comparisons and I think I WILL spend the $65 and get a bunch!

Is it true that those are the older ( < 5th Edition) Warhammer minis?
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 14, 2009, 01:09:31 PM: :icon_redface: Thanks.

The Landsknechts were never part of the GW line. But they were sculpted by one or both of the Perry brothers who also did most of the original Empire sculpts.

Some of the Foundry figures are/were old GW figures, though. Some of the medievals are old Bretonnians, and some of the older Vikings are old GW Norse. They used to have some of the GW Nippon figures for sale as samurai. To confuse things further, GW used to make hisorical figures, including Vikings, Normans, Saxons, etc.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Hurin Thalion on August 14, 2009, 01:41:17 PM: Ah, I see. Those Mercenary Pikemen that they do just fit in so well with the older style (my preferred style) of Empire Soldiers!
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Chris on October 24, 2009, 04:28:12 PM: Can somebody post a picture of an warhammer human next to a LOTR human? I know LOTR minis are bit smaller but I want to see the difference.
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on October 29, 2009, 02:33:14 PM: LotR Humans are modeled after real life actors and thusly taller and much skinnier than Warhammer Humans (which are modeled after comic book heroes).
Title: Re: Miniatures Comparisons - Please Post Here
Post by: Valetus on November 17, 2009, 08:46:20 PM: ~~I recently saw some Zvezda kits in a model shop in Belfast; the Dungeon (behind Castle Court). So on the slim chance anyone wants to know where to get them in Northern Ireland there you go.~~

Correction to that I was just looking for the Zvezda kits today but the fantasy range has been entirely withdrawn from the current catalogue, it would seem they are not made any more.
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Post by: Tiberius on November 24, 2009, 03:57:17 AM: I've been looking up how Perry Napoleonic Models look against GW ones. It sounds like they are a wee bit too small. Is this true? The French Heavy Cavalry are looking far too awesome to past up. It would just be a shame if they weren't the right size. Anyone got any pics or experience with them?
Anyone using Perry Models in their army at all?
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Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 24, 2009, 04:15:15 AM: I will be ordering some of the Wars of the Roses plastic figures soon after they are released. They are supposed to be out in December, but I may wait until January, due to the holidays. When I get them, I will post pics.
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Post by: White Knight on November 28, 2009, 01:13:33 PM: I thought these few comparison pictures from my collection might be of interest.

Infantry:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_halb.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_xbow.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_gs.jpg)

Women:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_women.jpg)

Mounted figures:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_knights.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_horse.jpg)
(I forgot to include a Foundry horse, but they are tiny and best replaced)

A couple Estalians for the morion lovers:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_estalian.jpg)
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Post by: White Knight on November 28, 2009, 01:19:05 PM: Back in the nineties, Empire armies had access to ogres, dwarves and halflings and GW made some models in the proper dress too. They are here, along with some alternatives:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_ogres.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_dwarfs.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_half.jpg)

The Foundry great orcs/ogres and their revenant elves come with an a asortment of extras that have an empire theme. The cherubs are particularly interesting:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/comp_ramage.jpg)
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Post by: Rodman49 on December 11, 2009, 12:26:03 AM: White Knight you are the MAN!

So it looks to me as there is very little difference between all those models. I'm kind of interested in doing an Old Glory or Perry Mini army now (since both of their pewter models cost less than GW plastics).
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Post by: White Knight on December 11, 2009, 08:33:50 AM: If I had to choose either one, I'd say that overall the (Perry sculpted) Foundry miniatures are better than the Old Glory ones (though Old Glory can get very cheap, especially if you plan on buying a lot and join their Old Glory Armycard offer).
Stylistically, the puffy sleeves and pants on the Old Glory ones are bigger and "puffier" than anyone elses.
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Post by: Rodman49 on December 11, 2009, 08:13:10 PM: Hmm, so is the Old Glory stuff actually is 40%, even those like $32 for 30 mini mini deals? Also were the old glory stuff you put up there the 25mm ones they have on their site?

And is the Foundry Perry stuff the same scale as the Perry Miniature stuff?
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Post by: White Knight on December 11, 2009, 11:59:14 PM: I haven't ordered with them for a while, but the 40% should apply to all their own ranges, so to these as well.

As for relative size between Perry Foundry stuff and Perry Perry Miniatures stuff, I don't have any perry WOTR (which I assume is the closest to the correct period) I'm afraid. I'd say it's close enough though based on what I've seen.
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Post by: Rodman49 on December 13, 2009, 05:41:38 AM: Damn, I really need some of their minis - I'm kind of interested in doing a Nippon modeled Empire list. And if Old Glory stuff goes well with Perry Mini stuff the price could be real cheap.
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Post by: White Knight on December 13, 2009, 11:11:02 AM: Well, Old Glory stuff isn't all by the same sculptor I think, and I don't have any of their samurai range. I do however have Old Glory and Perry ECW figures and they mix well enough:

From left to right: Brigade Games Musketeer - Perry ECW - TAG ECW - Old Glory ECW - Eureka ECW
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/musksize.jpg)
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Post by: Midaski on December 14, 2009, 05:50:33 PM: Quote from: Rodman49 on December 13, 2009, 05:41:38 AM
Damn, I really need some of their minis - I'm kind of interested in doing a Nippon modeled Empire list. And if Old Glory stuff goes well with Perry Mini stuff the price could be real cheap.

I'm working on something similar.

I am calling mine 'Asian' for flexibility.
I have some current Perry Samurai - around £1.00 per infantryman, £2.50 per cavalryman.
I'm waiting for some WestWind stuff to turn up, but it's been nearly 3 weeks :icon_evil:
Then I have some of the old Citadel Samurai, ninjas, and the Rocket Launcher with most of the crew.

However I said Asian, because Perry do some lovely Koreans, and I have a couple of Vendel elephabts with Indian/Persian crew, and a few odd Black Cat Bases pirate figures with an oriental feel.

I will endeavour to add to this thread.

I'm quite happy to see any sort of 25/28mm 'human' minis in this thread, that could potentially be used in an Empire themed army.
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Post by: Siamtiger on December 15, 2009, 06:59:42 AM: Citadel Horses, 4th & 7th Edition, along with the new Perry horses from their Napoleonic Range.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/PM_FHCScale1.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/PM_FHCScale2.jpg)
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Post by: Rodman49 on December 15, 2009, 07:22:06 AM: Damn man - those guys look great!
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Post by: Siamtiger on December 15, 2009, 04:40:38 PM: Oh, i forgot this one.

Warlord Games Plastic ECW vs Mordheim Captain

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/WG_ECWScale1.jpg)
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Post by: Siamtiger on December 17, 2009, 05:34:02 AM: http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=10396

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/WG_ECWCVScale2.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/WG_ECWCVScale1.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/WG_ECWCVScale3.jpg)
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Post by: peraturabo on December 22, 2009, 11:28:36 AM: the roman horse is too small IMHO
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Post by: Siamtiger on December 22, 2009, 11:35:34 AM: Quote from: peraturabo on December 22, 2009, 11:28:36 AM
the roman horse is too small IMHO
(http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/thx-captain-obvious.jpg)

Well, main focus of the pictures - not only if you´ve followed the link - were the Warlord Games Miniatures
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Post by: White Knight on January 03, 2010, 12:10:34 PM: Some alternative models for kislevites. I find that cossacks (irregular) and poles (more uniformed) work very well.

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/kislevfoot.jpg)

A few close-ups:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/kislevfoot1.jpg)
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/kislevfoot2.jpg)

Some wizardly and priestly types:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/kislevwiz.jpg)

Mounted figures:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/kislevcav.jpg)

I didn't have an assembled unbarded GW horse handy, so this one will have to do:
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/kislevhorse.jpg)
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Post by: Siamtiger on January 12, 2010, 08:04:06 AM: Like i promissed, the Perry Miniatures - War of the Roses Kit.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PM_WotRScale1.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/PM_WotRScale2.jpg)

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=11415
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Post by: Rambunctious Clott on March 28, 2010, 03:20:16 PM: I got a Kraakov Hussar from Dwarf Tales recently, it was brought up on this thread:
http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32905.0 (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=32905.0)
about what height the miniatures were (the link to the website is also in that thread). So here is a comparison with some of my empire models!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/ehemmu.jpg)
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Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 28, 2010, 06:26:36 PM: Quote from: peraturabo on December 22, 2009, 11:28:36 AM
the roman horse is too small IMHO

Actually, no it isnt, its just in scale.

The Romans were actually quite a short race of people, averaging about 5 feet tall, and rode small horses and ponies.

Its why they co-opted all the celtic tribesmen they could into their army...

It doesnt help that the GW horses are the size of elephants either.
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Post by: midloo on March 29, 2010, 02:31:31 PM: Quote from: peraturabo on December 22, 2009, 11:28:36 AM
the roman horse is too small IMHO

Well just FYI - Roman horses were small. That is in fact very historically accurate and it is why sculptors who know there stuff model them that way.

Unfortunately that makes the horses a little less than ideal when scaling with the standard GW sized horse :)
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Post by: -SaH- on April 16, 2010, 08:37:47 PM: I've some miniatures from Reaper Mini, so here is comparison. I've hope it's helpfull.

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7898/93010820.jpg)
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3729/55095673.jpg)
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Post by: White Knight on May 24, 2010, 03:14:44 PM: A few more comparison pictures.

First, some elves in Empire style dress. These could work very well as Sea Elves who have lived in the Empire for some time.

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/comp_elves.jpg)

Civilians from various sources, in a dress style that (IMO) fits the Empire:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/comp_civ1.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/comp_civ2.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/comp_civ3.jpg)
(The Mirliton one is not a very good model)

Some women. The Alionas ones in particular are spot on.
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/comp_civ_women.jpg)

A couple kids:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/comp_kids.jpg)
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Post by: El Cody on May 26, 2010, 07:02:16 AM: Really good thread! Appreciate all the people submitting pics to help us other fools out, question for anyone who cares...

Could someone do a side by side of GW lord of the rings Gondor troops and empire stuff

I love the look of the LoTR models and want to do a more medivalish looking force and was wondering how they looked next to each other. I know they're supposed to be smaller but I'd like to see an actual visual difference if possible....
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Post by: Fandir Nightshade on May 26, 2010, 07:06:40 AM: Yes this thread rocks big time I will get some wargames factory numidians in here in a couple of weeks.
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Post by: Marek on May 31, 2010, 06:25:22 PM: Apologies if this thread is purely to compare the aesthetics of differrent manufacturers, but I'll always wandered do some figure ranges hold their value better than others?

(And ps, thanks for bringing to my attention many beautiful models that I did not even know existed! :blush:)
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Post by: White Knight on May 31, 2010, 06:39:13 PM: Well, metal always holds it's value better than plastic, as it can be turned to near mint condition by stripping, where the plastics are pretty much devalued once you glued them together (and even more when painted unless you are really good).

Also, OOP figures will always fetch bigger prices on the secondary market because of their perceived (but not always true) rarity.
For this reason, old Marauder figures and OOP citadel can go for comparatively high prices when compared to ranges that are currently in production. The same can be said for the 7th Sea figures I posted earlier in this thread, because they make some good female characters in empire style and are hard to come by. Foundry will usually get a good price because like GW they keep having price rises every year or so.

On the other side of the spectrum you have Old Glory and Black Tree Design who will undermine the value of their own ranges by continuously undercutting their own prices with sales or special discounts (army card). This should reflect in the resale value of their figures.
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Post by: Midaski on June 05, 2010, 05:27:17 PM: Here are some pikemen I have been working on/with

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Miniatures%20Comparison/DSCF1463-1.jpg~original)

Pendraken on the left, Artizan centre, Foundry on right

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Miniatures%20Comparison/Pikemen2.jpg~original)

On the left is a Artizan Landsknecht, centre is Foundry, and right is a plastic Warlord Games ECW pikeman with an Ed.6 Soldiers Head
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Post by: White Knight on June 06, 2010, 12:26:17 PM: Thanks for that, I always wondered about the Pendraken figures. They don't compare favourably to the others though. :Ohmy:
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Post by: Midaski on June 06, 2010, 04:51:35 PM: Quote from: White Knight on June 06, 2010, 12:26:17 PM
Thanks for that, I always wondered about the Pendraken figures. They don't compare favourably to the others though. :Ohmy:

That's one of the reasons I posted it - I agree. :engel:

They were fairly cheap if I remember 8 for £6.00, but only the one pose, and the heads are oversized.
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Post by: warhammerlord_soth on June 06, 2010, 05:52:02 PM: They look great.

As long as you hide them behind the others.
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Post by: Midaski on June 06, 2010, 05:53:52 PM: Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on June 06, 2010, 05:52:02 PM
They look great.

As long as you hide them behind the others.

Yeah I have 8 of then in 55 models, so they don't really show.
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Post by: warhammerlord_soth on June 06, 2010, 09:05:56 PM: I know.

I did see them up close, remember?

Come on -It's only been two weeks, you must still remember....
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Post by: Midaski on June 06, 2010, 09:32:35 PM: Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on June 06, 2010, 09:05:56 PM
I know.

I did see them up close, remember?

Come on -It's only been two weeks, you must still remember....

Sorry - just remind me, ..... who are you ...................
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Post by: warhammerlord_soth on June 07, 2010, 06:45:45 AM: Quote from: Midaski on June 06, 2010, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on June 06, 2010, 09:05:56 PM
I know.

I did see them up close, remember?

Come on -It's only been two weeks, you must still remember....

Sorry - just remind me, ..... who are you ...................

I am your long lost natural child. The one you're going to leave all your minis to. :icon_mrgreen:
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Post by: White Knight on June 07, 2010, 09:01:35 AM: You do realise that means you just renounced all claims to inheriting Steveb's miniatures?
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Post by: warhammerlord_soth on June 07, 2010, 09:52:49 AM: Quote from: White Knight on June 07, 2010, 09:01:35 AM
You do realise that means you just renounced all claims to inheriting Steveb's miniatures?

You mean granddad ?
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Post by: White Knight on June 07, 2010, 09:54:45 AM: :biggriin:
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Post by: Gadhrain on June 17, 2010, 04:55:59 AM: Thought I'd ask before I spend the cash to find out :smile2:

Are all the perry-miniatures horses in the same scale? Kind of get the feeling that the ones showed in this thread are larger then the ones in the Plastic French Napoleonic Hussars kit (which I happen to have).

thanks
/Rob
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Post by: Valetus on June 27, 2010, 09:58:25 PM: The french heavy cavalry are in the same scale for sure. Not certain about the ACW horse as I have only seen them on the spure, but they too seem the same. They work well enough but are not really suitable for mixing (at least in the same unit) as GW horses.
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Post by: Ebola on September 07, 2010, 02:18:16 AM: Hi all,

Attached is a link discussing a comparison of the Perry WoTR miniatures to that of GW figures. As this is one issue have have been trying to find answers to I though it would be good to share the link.

Apologies if this is a repeat:

http://adventuresinminiaturegaming.blogspot.com/2010/02/perry-miniatures-plastic-war-of-roses.html

Cheers!
Ebola
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Post by: steveb on October 18, 2010, 04:58:24 AM: Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on June 07, 2010, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: White Knight on June 07, 2010, 09:01:35 AM
You do realise that means you just renounced all claims to inheriting Steveb's miniatures?

You mean granddad ?
I am bemused! Monday night I was teaching basic Karate moves to a begining white belt teenage young lady, she asked me how old I was and when I told her, she said "you're older than my pe-paw" she meant grandfather. As the years pile on I do wonder what will become of my collection. My wife has no idea of what is what, I guess I will have to make a provision in my will. HaHaHaHa, take it with me......steveb
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Post by: warhammerlord_soth on October 18, 2010, 07:55:41 AM: Quote from: steveb on October 18, 2010, 04:58:24 AM
Quote from: warhammerlord_soth on June 07, 2010, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: White Knight on June 07, 2010, 09:01:35 AM
You do realise that means you just renounced all claims to inheriting Steveb's miniatures?

You mean granddad ?
I am bemused! Monday night I was teaching basic Karate moves to a begining white belt teenage young lady, she asked me how old I was and when I told her, she said "you're older than my pe-paw" she meant grandfather. As the years pile on I do wonder what will become of my collection. My wife has no idea of what is what, I guess I will have to make a provision in my will. HaHaHaHa, take it with me......steveb

So, gramps... How have you been doing ?
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Post by: Uryens de Crux on October 18, 2010, 04:04:11 PM: You should have it loaded into your gave to take with you, or used as fuel for your pyre.
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Post by: steveb on October 18, 2010, 09:04:53 PM: Do you remember the scene in the last Pirate of the Carribean movie, where the crabs carry the black Pearl across the desert on their backs? well I sometimes imagine all my toys, en mass, carrying me away, on their backs to an unknown destination. steveb
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Post by: Mariner on March 27, 2011, 01:34:39 AM: I just finished assembling the Perry Miniatures Mercenaries set, I'm very impressed with the quality of casting, and there are some lovely sallet helms and even a couple of my favourite deep kettle helms. Not sure how well they'd rank up with standard Empire plastics, they don't have that puff and slash clothing and giant feathers look. I intend to use them as Tilean or Border Princes mercs along with Voland's Venators and Breganza's Besiegers. They are slightly smaller than GW plastics, especially in the hands/feet and heads, they are a better match for Braganza's Besiegers, I believe they were Perry sculpts too. I cut the round bases off and used GW 20mm bases instead.
Here are a couple of comparison shots:

Two Perry Merc gunners on left, two GW handgunners on right
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5137/5562365161_e576ab2302_b_d.jpg)

Two Perrry Mercs on left, two GW halberdiers on right
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5306/5562700782_f92604c9a3_b_d.jpg)

You can't argue with the value of the Merc set at $36, I made a unit of 20 pikemen (will count as spearmen) with full command, and two detachments (10 crossbowmen and 10 handgunners).

Here's another comparison shot...

Black Scorpion Minatures Black Jack Davey from their Pirates range, Avatars of War "War Priest", and GW Freelance Knight.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/5562361331_91171cd8b3_b_d.jpg).

I love the Black Scorpion pirates range, some of them work nicely as nautical coastal town themed militia for my Nordland army. Scale is a good match for GW and their pirate giant is one of the sweetest models ever. They actually have pirate skirmish rules coming out soon called "Cutlass", co-written by Gav Thorpe, should be interesting...
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Post by: Silver Wolf on April 09, 2011, 08:29:00 PM: Sorry guys, I'm a bit too busy to search around the forum, so I'm going to post my question here :

Can anyone recognize these models :
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d40/Mattias_/WHFB%20Empire/GWGreatswordsoPriest005.jpg~original)

Some of them seem to be converted but they look like a decent replacement for greatswords ...
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Post by: DariusZero on April 09, 2011, 08:44:47 PM: Gamezone empire swordmen.
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Post by: Silver Wolf on April 09, 2011, 08:54:35 PM: Thanks for the info ! :icon_biggrin:

Huh... They seem to be even more expensive than GW's products... :icon_confused:
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Post by: Cam on April 29, 2011, 09:45:39 AM: Hey,
I went through this thread, google and all of my white dwarfs, but I couldn't find what I was looking for so I'm going to ask you guys for help. I need to see a comparison shot of a riccos republican guardian. Preferably together with a Teutogen Guardian, as that's what I want to convert them to. RRG are just very expensive so I wanted to see how good of a basis they are for my planned conversion, before I go off and buy them. Not just the height is a issue (as I'll have to add wild, hairy heads anyway) but I'm particulary interested in how thin, fragile etc. they look. I'd be really great if somebody could post a comparison shot. Thank you
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Post by: White Knight on April 29, 2011, 10:22:23 AM: No comparison picture, but I'd take a look at some of the Front Rank WOTR armoured footsoldiers. They are cheap, nice and chuncky and scale well with the old Reiksguard on foot. Some of them have greatswords, so a quick weaponswap and headswap, and a greenstuff fur cloak should work well.
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Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 01, 2011, 05:00:51 PM: could anyone post a comparison from renegade (particularily WOTR or Celts?) with GW?

thanks ;-)
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Post by: mr chumley warner on August 05, 2011, 03:20:49 PM: Quote from: Silver Wolf on April 09, 2011, 08:29:00 PM
Sorry guys, I'm a bit too busy to search around the forum, so I'm going to post my question here :

Can anyone recognize these models :
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d40/Mattias_/WHFB%20Empire/GWGreatswordsoPriest005.jpg~original)

Some of them seem to be converted but they look like a decent replacement for greatswords ...

Darn these look great , I had to buy 6!
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Post by: White Knight on August 05, 2011, 06:42:38 PM: Another member asked me about the relative size of the Mirliton sallet helmets, that you can buy separately.
Here they are with 6th edition troopers and 7th edition archers.

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/mirlitonhead.jpg)
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Post by: Davey on August 29, 2011, 12:24:18 PM: Pictures to follow, but I thought you might like to know that I've been mixing the perry plastics with GW stuff with plenty of success, despite initial worries about scale/size issues.
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Post by: Padre on September 13, 2011, 10:47:42 AM: Some Artizan figures I've been working on which seem just ticketiboo compared with GW of several eras.

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/GWcfART1.jpg~original)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/GWcfART2.jpg~original)
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Post by: Alexis on September 23, 2011, 12:39:12 AM: Those Artizan mini's seem very much to scale with GW.

I have a request to anyone that can help - I bought a box of Perry Plastic European Merc's. I would love to know how they look scale-wise beside Artizan Landsknechts or Swiss before I invest in a unit. I just have a horrible feeling they wont match as my Perry models seem pretty slim.

I have checked this thread and I can't seem to find an image of the Perry plastics standing beside said Artizan Landsknechts / Swiss.

Thanks if you can help!
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Post by: Padre on September 23, 2011, 09:14:17 AM: I'll do that for you as soon as possible (i.e. when I am in the same building as my figures!). Possibly this afternoon.
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Post by: Alexis on September 24, 2011, 02:20:57 PM: Quote from: Padre on September 23, 2011, 09:14:17 AM
I'll do that for you as soon as possible (i.e. when I am in the same building as my figures!). Possibly this afternoon.

Thanks Padre, that would be great!

On a semi-side note, coud anyone suggest any particular range that fits very well with Perry plastics? They do seem to be slimmer than most in these pictures. I really dont want to order a load of models only to find they look daft. (as has happened me before!)
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Post by: Padre on September 25, 2011, 08:17:48 PM: Quote from: Alexis on September 23, 2011, 12:39:12 AM
I have a request to anyone that can help - I bought a box of Perry Plastic European Merc's. I would love to know how they look scale-wise beside Artizan Landsknechts or Swiss before I invest in a unit.

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/compfigsforEmpforum.jpg~original)
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Post by: Alexis on September 25, 2011, 08:26:20 PM: Cheers Padre, exactly what I was looking for! :smile2:
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Post by: cjp on October 08, 2011, 02:46:14 AM: Some general size across manufacturers, that I originally created for questions about Red Box Games on other forums but thought I'd share in case any of you are interested in his stuff. Good selection though not much standard empire styling, quite a bit of ideas for alternate themes.

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/RBG1.jpg)
Hasslefree Human Female, RBG human female, Otherworld Skeleton, GW halberdier.

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/RBG2.jpg)
Hasslefree dwarf, RBG dwarf, RBG dwarf, 90s GW halfling, 80s GW dwarf

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/RBG3.jpg)
RBG human, 80s GW, RBG elf, 90s GW

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/RBG4.jpg)
RBG human, LotR human
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Post by: The Peacemaker on January 22, 2012, 08:32:37 AM: that LOTR's human archer is a very good substitute for an araby army. Not too big a deal they are smaller since its a different theme.
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Post by: Henerius on April 07, 2012, 11:43:46 AM: this photograph was posted before. In response of this I actually ordered a regiment of them...
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/henerius/pikecomp.jpg~original)

as you can see of the models holding the halberd with the axe-head behind and over the helmet are a crime waiting to happen. The hands on the halberd do not line with the places where they should be and... the gap between the hands (on the halberds) and the arms/wrist (on the model) are not the same.
Buying these will get you into pinning every halberd into place (yep every-single-one-of them) and also the spearlike tips behind the axe are very fragile, I had to pin at least 7 (out of 21)
Not that I discourage anyone to start with them.. in the end it is worth it, but still be warned. This are not the edition 8 click-and-play minis, You need some zkills on these figures.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/henerius/gamezoneestalians002.jpg~original)
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Post by: Henerius on April 07, 2012, 11:56:45 AM: just to be sure for who is interested.

left to right
Heldorado, GW, Heldorado, gamezone, gamezone
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/henerius/gamezoneestalians006.jpg~original)
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Post by: DariusZero on May 12, 2012, 08:56:12 PM: Redemption riders from Rackham

(http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp34/dariusZero/CONFRONTATIONRIDERS.jpg)
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Post by: Victor on May 12, 2012, 09:08:36 PM: Can someone please do a comparison shot of the new horses that come with the carts with the old barded horses etc.?
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Post by: Henerius on May 13, 2012, 07:12:14 PM: Images are made by Beastherder -> hivenovio.nl

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/beastherder/Modellen/Historical/DSCN4955-.jpg~original)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/beastherder/Modellen/Historical/DSCN4952-.jpg~original)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/beastherder/Modellen/Historical/DSCN4956-.jpg~original)

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/beastherder/Modellen/Historical/DSCN4951-.jpg~original)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/beastherder/Modellen/Historical/DSCN4950-.jpg~original)
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Post by: DariusZero on May 13, 2012, 07:15:51 PM: Mercenary knights- that would work.
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Post by: Your Mother on May 15, 2012, 04:08:13 PM: (http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p563/livolsiv/P5142226.jpg~original)

Left- new GW Zvezda pike Gw Pizzaro Zvezda Pike Gw Alcatani
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Post by: VonOttenheim on May 19, 2012, 08:54:23 AM: Does anyone have or can make a comparison shot between GW statetrooper (6th/7th ed) and these guys....

http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/hammer-of-the-gods/viking-huscarls

...or even better with some chaos marauders (knowing that marauders are of course bigger).

Those vikings look like good value for money...so might risk buying one anyway....but a comparison shot would be sweet.

And also....has anyone tried these ?....are they for real? http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php
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Post by: Siberius on May 20, 2012, 02:29:03 AM: Not a great pic but at least an idea of scale:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g97/vaskel/Snapbucket/b12542aa-e805-4a19-bf58-319d00eb8bd2.jpg~original)
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Post by: VonOttenheim on May 20, 2012, 09:55:02 AM: Thats brilliant, thank you very much :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::

They sort of work and thats all I needed. Much appreciated. :smile2:
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Post by: Siberius on May 20, 2012, 10:24:29 PM: No problem. Yeh they aren't quite as bulky but the height and proportions in general fit pretty good. Wouldn't want to mix them in with a games workshop unit apart from maybe free company, but they don't look out of place im my army in their own units.
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Post by: sirolf on June 12, 2012, 09:25:36 PM: Hi, I have a pretty weird request, hope somebody can help me: I am looking for comparison pictures or advices between Front Rank medieval WOTR and the latest LOTR plastics like the "harad e umbar" range..

Thanks !!
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Post by: Shadespyre on August 02, 2012, 10:43:47 PM: Quote from: VonOttenheim on May 19, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
And also....has anyone tried these ?....are they for real? http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php

Take a look here: http://z8.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index.php?showtopic=24346 (http://z8.invisionfree.com/herdstone/index.php?showtopic=24346)

I actually purchased these for this guy in Serbia (long story). So they certainly were for real 6 months ago anyway...
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Post by: -Still-Alive- on October 22, 2012, 08:48:18 PM: Can someone please make a comparison shots between miniatures/bits from Perry Miniatures "Mercenaries" or "Wars of the Roses Infantry", Warlord Games "Pike and Shotte Royalist Infantry" and Wargames Factory Viking Huscarls? Or at least Perry Mercenaries/Pike and Shotte Royalist Infantry and Perry Mercenaries/Viking Huscarls? I'm mostly concerned about size ratio of Perry/Pike and Shotte bodies and Perry/Viking hands and heads.
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Post by: Gorgash Redfang on October 23, 2012, 07:51:02 AM: Quote from: VonOttenheim on May 19, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
Does anyone have or can make a comparison shot between GW statetrooper (6th/7th ed) and these guys....

http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/hammer-of-the-gods/viking-huscarls

...or even better with some chaos marauders (knowing that marauders are of course bigger).

Those vikings look like good value for money...so might risk buying one anyway....but a comparison shot would be sweet.

And also....has anyone tried these ?....are they for real? http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php

from what I have seen their Teutonic Knights Cavalry
http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=1&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=21&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9999
are a little small but fit fairly well with Bret/Empire

http://www.dicetroll.com/SMF/index.php?topic=28628.msg443276#msg443276
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Post by: Kossar on November 18, 2012, 05:39:18 PM: A handful of horsies (apologies for terrible photography):

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ClLgzHBdEWg/UKkVys0R3WI/AAAAAAAAAkI/QNBtySrQCnQ/s1600/separate+horses+A+v2.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ACUEvFX-xI4/UKkV507t2XI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/Aw2PDUPjRso/s1600/separate+horses+B+v2.jpg)

I limited myself to the plastic ones that are available separately from any riders.
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Post by: Commander Bernhardt on December 28, 2012, 11:04:52 AM: Quote from: VonOttenheim on May 19, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
Does anyone have or can make a comparison shot between GW statetrooper (6th/7th ed) and these guys....

http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/hammer-of-the-gods/viking-huscarls

...or even better with some chaos marauders (knowing that marauders are of course bigger).

Those vikings look like good value for money...so might risk buying one anyway....but a comparison shot would be sweet.

I can't take a picture because I'm in the middle of moving house. But I own both and the vikings are the same size as the classic "soldiers of the empire" box (i believe these are 6th/7th state troopers)

allthough the wargames factory vikings are fantastic I can assure you the Gripping Beast viking hirdmen are vastly superior to those. http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=2531. The amount of detail and options far outweighs. They are also slightly more bulky what makes for better marauder replacements. I use both boxes intermixed as marauder replacements.
Also, if you compare a wargames factory sword next to gw (or gripping beast) sword the wargames facotry weapons look like daggers. the axes look more like kitchen equipment than real weapons.

If I remember I'll try to take a pic as soon as possible, if I forget, feel free to remind me ;)

http://psychosispc-themadhouseworkshop.blogspot.be/2011/12/gripping-beast-plastic-viking-hirdmen.html
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Post by: thundercake on May 29, 2013, 05:03:13 AM: Complicated question.

Can someone compare Warlord games, wargames factory, and gripping beast miniatures, with a GW miniature?

I am thinking of putting together a small albionian army and am trying to figure out which one of those would be best for the wallet and best for the tabletop in scale.
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Post by: Shimian on June 10, 2013, 12:52:27 PM: Hey guys,

could someone please make some comparison photos showing Frontrank Figurines Infantry units (especially http://www.frontrank.com/images/level4/6475.jpg or http://www.frontrank.com/images/level4/6471.jpg) and some GW Halberdiers? Would be great :)
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Post by: GrafWattenburg on June 21, 2013, 01:27:42 PM: Comparison between GW Free Company Bowman ,Wargames Foundry Viking Bowmen and Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses bowmen

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0789.jpg~original)

Perry Minis, Forlorn Hopes Games Fantasy Halberdier, GW Halberdier, Forlorn Hopes with greatsword

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0778.jpg~original)

Forlorn Hopes Barbarian on Tiger and GW Empire Knight

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0780.jpg~original)

Put Tiger-Conan next to the demigryph, the pic turned out awful but you get some idea of scale

(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0790.jpg~original)

Links to the sites where I got the minis: http://www.forlornhopegames.co.uk/range.php?GroupID=5 - http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/our-ranges/vikings/viking-best-sellers-collection-bcvik006/ - http://www.warlordgames.com/store/hail-caesar/war-of-the-roses-1455-1486.html

I'm satisfied with the models, the Perry minis are slimmer than the GW ones but they blend well, expecting them to do so even more once they're painted. The ones from Forlorn Hopes got a sort of retro-look which I really like, and they look better in person than they do on the website's pics.

I love the viking archers too. I imagine bearded viking archers would look cool in an Ulric-themed army.

Hope this is useful for somebody! :)
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Post by: Shimian on June 26, 2013, 04:56:06 PM: I am a bit confused. On the website of forlorn hope games they state that the "Men" of the Fantasy Warriors range are in 28mm. When purchasing a model, it is stated in the basket that they are only 25mm. Can you tell me the correct scale? On your pictures it looks like they are almost the same size as the GW models.
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Post by: GrafWattenburg on June 28, 2013, 02:55:27 PM: To be fair I don't think I've ever seen 25mm models (not into other miniatures than WH really :blush:) so I don't know how the difference between 25 and 28mm is... But I think they scale very well with GW miniatures and certainly seem to be of the same scale.

Here are some more pictures for comparison:

Old GW fighter knight-guy and Forlorn Hopes guy with sword:
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0803.jpg~original)

Forlorn Hopes guy and old GW "Moon Duke" or whatever his name is
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0802.jpg~original)

FH with flail, GW swordsmen champion, FH praying paladin (his metal base is too large for the small square bases as you can see - I plan on putting him on a larger plate with other models)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh28/Nekkkronerd/IMG_0801.jpg~original)

Hope that's of some help! :::cheers:::
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Post by: White Knight on July 05, 2013, 07:09:42 AM: Since someone asked for a picture of my goblin sallet heads on human bodies, it makes sense to post it here too.

Seems like a good size, you'd just need to add a ball of greenstuff to form the neckjoint:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/wk/salletcomp1.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/wk/salletcomp2.jpg)
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Post by: nijlor on July 17, 2013, 01:28:44 PM: Hi all and greetings from Poland :)

My first post on the forum, some scale comparisons:

Left to right:
GW Haradrim, HaT El Cid range Almoravid heavy infantry on Mantic "round-center-hole" base (i'm using them for my WAB Alexandrian army of Warlord and Victrix models), TAG turkish commander (Pasha?), GW Haradrim, HaT El Cid range Almoravid light infantry archer

(http://images35.fotosik.pl/1886/2077fdeaaaee1f92m.jpg) (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=2077fdeaaaee1f92)
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Post by: Victor on August 07, 2013, 03:57:15 PM: Quote from: Shimian on June 10, 2013, 12:52:27 PM
Hey guys,

could someone please make some comparison photos showing Frontrank Figurines Infantry units (especially http://www.frontrank.com/images/level4/6475.jpg or http://www.frontrank.com/images/level4/6471.jpg) and some GW Halberdiers? Would be great :)

I second this request. Would be great to get some comparison shots of frontranks minis (either from the 'war of the roses' or '100 years war' range) together with GW minis.
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Post by: JAK on August 18, 2013, 09:14:37 AM: Some of you may have seen the Warploque Miniatures Arcworlde project currently on Kickstarter.

I’m interested in their Albionnicans but the figures are listed as being 32mm. Knowing how manufacturers are not too good at describing their scales this could mean they are a tall GW size or giants like the Micro Art Studio products.

The figures were on sale before they went to Kickstarter so I’d be grateful for any comparison shots or thoughts on their suitability to mix with GW figures.
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Post by: thundercake on August 18, 2013, 05:05:23 PM: I thought warploque already had halflings and ablionians on their site?
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Post by: JAK on August 18, 2013, 07:28:55 PM: Quote from: thundercake on August 18, 2013, 05:05:23 PM
I thought warploque already had halflings and ablionians on their site?

They have been for sale in the past but their site’s down during the period on Kickstarter. The Albionnicans would suit a planned unit so I thought of becoming a backer as it seems a good deal.

Problem is if his figures are a true 32mm scale they will be too big hence request for comparison photos or information.
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Post by: cjp on September 19, 2013, 10:58:27 PM: another comparison that might be useful to someone. I just found the image laying around, so it doesn't have any GW figs in there, since that wasn't the original point of the image. But if you have models from one of these companies, it might be useful for judging some other companies out there that you might want to use for dogs of war, or free company, etc.

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/ancientcompare.jpg)

Here is the image provided by Brother Vinni of his old stuff with GW. Not sure if the size has changed with his newer resin casts, maybe WK knows, if anyone. :)

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/comparision.jpg)
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Post by: cjp on September 20, 2013, 12:45:53 AM: Some others- these were done to highlight the RJ Eastland / Tanatus figs. Another good option if you want simple dark age styled rank and file.

Hopefully those might be of some use. . . to someone. . . some time.

http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=82

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/RJE/sidebyside1SMALL.jpg)

(http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/RJE/sidebyside2SMALL.jpg)
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Post by: Hauptmann Gustl on September 21, 2013, 12:07:01 PM: Has anybody ever compared these to GW? Are they worth having a look at? As far as I am concerned Mantic Games is said to have problems with detailed sculpting...

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Kings-of-War/Basilea.html
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Post by: Darknight on September 22, 2013, 06:34:51 PM: There have been several threads where people have decried them - myself included - but that is just based on pictures from Mantic, not from seeing the actual sprues or models. They might be better in the plastic.
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Post by: somegeezer on September 23, 2013, 11:05:04 AM: The Men at Arms seem to be particularly disliked - even on the Mantic forums (http://forum.manticblog.com/forum.php). Size-wise, they are comparable with the current state troops, though with a more upright pose - and fuzzier detail. Anyway, here's one next to a state troop.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8536/z6yy.jpg)
Note this is from a Mantic forum user, not me - I don't have any KoW minis at all (though I do have a half-assed idea to make a KoW army with Warlord's ECW range).
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Post by: Hauptmann Gustl on September 23, 2013, 04:43:17 PM: Oh thank you. So it seems to be true... they look really crappy. Not even their torsos are worth to be taken into consideration. Sad but true - still no decent alternative around to be combined with the GW parts.
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Post by: Darknight on September 27, 2013, 01:47:40 PM: I am not filled with the swelling sense of goodness here.
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Post by: Silver Wolf on September 29, 2013, 08:31:01 AM: Mantic produces great zombies and werewolves in their KoW range. The rest is just sub par.

And this... This looks horrible.
No sharp details, weird design and weapons which don't fit in their place properly.
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Post by: Victor on February 08, 2014, 03:09:03 PM: I have also bought some old Grenadier Minis (these days produced by Mirliton&Forlorn Hope) and took some photos:

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad127/Victor_86/Grenadier1_zps614c81fc.jpg~original)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad127/Victor_86/Grenadier2_zps89b68476.jpg~original)

PS.: The mold lines haven't been removed when I took the picturs.
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Post by: steveb on April 06, 2014, 07:21:46 PM: just a note, Forlorn HOPE miniatures are the old Grenadier fantasy warrior line, when they went out of business I guess that they bought the molds and masters. they are very compatible with GW especiaqlly the older figures, before they became "28mm Heroic".
Grenadier also had some really nice elves, any one know who ended up with the molds? steveb
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Post by: Victor on May 18, 2014, 02:34:07 PM: Quote from: steveb on April 06, 2014, 07:21:46 PM
just a note, Forlorn HOPE miniatures are the old Grenadier fantasy warrior line, when they went out of business I guess that they bought the molds and masters. they are very compatible with GW especiaqlly the older figures, before they became "28mm Heroic".
Grenadier also had some really nice elves, any one know who ended up with the molds? steveb

As I said in the post above yours, both Mirliton and Forlorn Hope still produce Grenadier miniatures, including the elves. The range variies a bit however. Battlezone Miniatures sell some Grenadier Minis as well, including some adventurers, that I haven't seen on the other sites so far (I assume they are Grenadierminis as well)

http://www.battlezone-miniatures.co.uk/shop/category/2?topCategory=2
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Post by: Hashut on November 28, 2014, 06:56:54 AM: This is an odd request, but I'm sure somebody can help! Any chance that somebody can post a comparison of the perry mounted men-at-arms and voland's venators?

I'm only really interested in the riders, but can understand if that's impossible to get a pic of.
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Post by: cjp on December 01, 2014, 07:34:31 AM: I can get voland's venorators with perry Agincourt serjeants, but thats as close as I have right now. Not sure how the newer mounted perry compare with the older stuff. But if its useful to you, lmk, and I'll set it up.

these guys (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_36&products_id=1480&osCsid=266tfrkih6drj459flqedho621)
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Post by: DariusZero on December 12, 2014, 07:11:56 PM: From the FB: Conan by Monolith
Board Game

"We've often been asked to give a picture showing a comparative scale of our models with those of other brands. So here is, from left to right: a Helldorado miniature, Ron & Bones, Monolith, Rackham, Games Workshop and finally, Monolith."

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10864023_617527195018934_4521258918479517312_o.jpg)
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Post by: Victor on January 15, 2017, 09:04:11 PM: Size comparison between White Knight (WK) and Games Workshop (GW) miniatures:

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad127/Victor_86/WK-Size_zpsostgoly7.jpg~original)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad127/Victor_86/WK-Size2_zpsj5yojtvs.jpg~original)

I hope this actually helps someone, because this took me quite some time.
:closed-eyes:
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Post by: White Knight on January 15, 2017, 09:15:12 PM: That looks fantastic! :Ohmy:
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Post by: Rogers Kul on January 15, 2017, 11:47:02 PM: Very kind, Victor. Thank you
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Post by: White Knight on January 16, 2017, 10:11:10 AM: I hadn't thought about it, but seeing them together like that, that mounted hero with the sword and the footmodel next to it could work as mounted and dismounted versions of the same character. :happy:
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Post by: Noble Korhedron on January 17, 2017, 12:01:08 AM: Is it me or do Hasslefree do a lot of naked and/or topless chicks? Also, what unit is that 5th Ed. GW DoW standard bearer? He looks like he's from one of the DoW pike units....
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Post by: Zygmund on January 20, 2017, 11:45:29 AM: Quote from: Noble Korhedron on January 17, 2017, 12:01:08 AM
Also, what unit is that 5th Ed. GW DoW standard bearer? He looks like he's from one of the DoW pike units....

You mean this one on the right?

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad127/Victor_86/Grenadier1_zps614c81fc.jpg~original)

He's from Ricco's Republican Guard - the best armoured and elite of the three DoW pikemen units.

-Z
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Post by: Shadespyre on June 15, 2017, 08:14:15 PM: Quick look cos I have other priorities right now... MoM Miniatures Halberdiers with a classic GW for comparison...
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/Shadespyre/WARHAMMER/Middenheim%20Empire%20Army/DSC08032202_zpsyqwwyutj.jpg)

First impressions - a little larger, quite a lot of flash to be cleaned.
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Post by: SDPalmer12 on December 22, 2017, 03:49:09 AM: (https://i.imgur.com/GU3uPEv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MveyfuY.jpg)

Painted Warlord Games Landsknechts, going to use as Pikemen or Spearmen, depending how fussy the opponent is.

I think they stack up pretty well scale wise to GW models, just the hands, heads and weapons more to actual scale.

And a unit of 24 is very nicely priced.
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Post by: Dark Lord Galax on February 22, 2018, 09:31:26 PM: I'm adding something to SDpalmer12's review, hoping it can help somebody who hasn't already decided about buying
Warlord Landsknectsh pikemen.

I also tried to provide a comparison to Gw 6th edition Infantry at the end.

First, the bodies right out of the sprue.
Here you see two standard rank and file and one command sprue, for a total of 13 bodies, 12 pikes and 2 handguns.
Each box provides 5 sprues with 6 bodies each, and a command sprue with a full plate armoured one.
As you can see, torsoes and legs are combined in a single piece.

(https://s17.postimg.org/90grv08db/DSCN2474.jpg)

I already remove the round base under the models' feet, because it easier for me to make bases this way.
Those bases add 1,5mm to the models height, so if you plan to mix them with regular GWs it's a good idea to keep them in order to have them fitting better.

Here, a highly detailed picture of the sprue

Front

(https://s17.postimg.org/sjld4cjzj/DSCN2476.jpg)

Rear

(https://s17.postimg.org/f2oelirof/DSCN2477.jpg)

Then, a picture of the assembled unit:

(https://s17.postimg.org/4slzmdoz3/DSCN2480.jpg)

and a "field comparison" to old GWs:

(https://s17.postimg.org/c8l986s3z/DSCN2481.jpg)

I found them as a mid way between GW's 6th ed. (a little bit smaller and proportionate) and Perrys' WotR range (a little bigger and "heroic").
They've been sculpted by Mike Anderson, so the sculpting style and face expressions are quite similar to GW's greatsword plastic kit.
I still hadn't try to mix 6th ed. and Warlord pikemen, but I think the results may vary depending on which bits you mix.
The style is very Gw-ish, so you'd probably enjoy them even in a full GW army until you don't make mixed units.

Of course if you use some of GWs heads on Warlord torsoes you would have a Funko-Pop effect ( :ph34r: ), but the other way round may work.
If you don't mix them arms could quite fit bodies of the other kit, or at least it's worth trying.

I bought two boxes of these guys and I'm pretty happy to give this kit an 8.5/10 valutation. :engel:
Really, really enjoy it. :happy:

Finally, a comparison between a Gw swordsman, a perry man at arm from the WotR range (on sprue) and the Warlord unit champion:

(https://s17.postimg.org/ru2ksdgzj/DSCN2484.jpg)

:smile2:
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Post by: scrubber on February 23, 2018, 12:55:24 AM: Just to note;
MoM Miniatures Halberdiers are very delicate to be handled allot. Played skirmish game with my friends figures last weekend and we snapped 3 weapon heads. So me is going to buy some one piece halberds and replace the originals. Very nice models.
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Post by: Dark Lord Galax on March 07, 2018, 04:43:36 AM: I've taken a couple of comparison pics! :engel:

So, first of all, only non-Gw models still aviable on commerce:

(https://s17.postimg.org/675qmjzvj/DSCN1478.jpg)

From left to right: Mom Halberdier, Perry man at arms, Walord Landsknetch, Mom Halberdier, Perry man at arms, Walord Landsknetch.
As you can see, Mom models are truly bigger than both Perrys and Warlord ones.
Also, proportions are quite different.

A sidenote: I removed the small round base from Warlord miniatures but not from Perry ones as you can (not so clearly) see. So, Perry models are actually a couple mm shorter and they actually have the same height of Warlord ones.
More about that later but, as I said in one of my previous posts, if you want to make Landsknetch seem a little bigger than they actually are just leave the round base and try to cover it with sand or other textures and static grass.

Now, another issue: how do they rank up with standard Gw footsoldiers?
Well, I may say not quite bad as I imagined but the difference is quite "important". :mellow:

(https://s17.postimg.org/ty544uuzj/DSCN1480.jpg)

Again, you can cheat on height by removing or leaving the small, round bases.
Mom miniatures, apart from having quite a different style about dresses and weapons, are a little bigger and with different proportions... And that may be an issue putting together an army.

But then I noticed something...

(https://s17.postimg.org/3r3x8ja1b/DSCN1560.jpg)

Heads from all the plastic kits have quite the same dimensions!
(1st row Gw 7th edition, 2nd row Gw 6th edition, 3rd row Perry miniatures, 4th row Warlord games)

But be careful:
-this does not include plumes
-the difference between historical and Gw ones is not so much, but if you try to put a Gw head on a Perry model it will make an ugly funko-pop effect... this works only the other way round!

Perry and Warlord heads fit perfectly on both 6th and 7th edition Gw models, both by measure (less than 0,5mm difference) and in style (Gw 6th edition heads are from Perry brothers themselves, while both 7th edition Greatswords and Warlord Landsknetchs have been sculpted by Mike Anderson).
On the other way, 6th and 7th edition arms fit quite well on Perry and Warlord models.

To summarize:

-> Good mixes and conversions :happy:
Perry/Warlord heads on Gw bodies
Gw arms and weapons on Perry/Warlord bodies

-> Bad mixes and conversions :x
Gw heads on Perry/Warlord bodies
Perry/Warlord arms and weapons on Gw models

Here a comparison:

(https://s17.postimg.org/43vberpr3/DSCN1557.jpg)

From left to right (with their respective arms and weapons):
Walord Landsknetch, Perry man at arms, 6th edition empire soldier, 7th edition empire archer, 7th edition empire soldier, 7th edition greatsword.

But, after all, it's only one the thing that matters: how do these different sculpts interact on the battlefield? :happy: :smile2: :dry:

I was a little curious so I made a couple tentatives. Here they are:

(https://s17.postimg.org/5wy833inj/DSCN1487.jpg)

Of course the painting makes the units seem more different in scale than they really are, but the results are not so bad after all. A coherent scheme and a couple tricks may do the job well.

Closer:

(https://s17.postimg.org/6z8eltgy7/DSCN1489.jpg)

This is not so bad, is it?
But we're just talking about Infantry, because...

A point about Cavalry

Gw has always made horses on heroic proportions, so "historical" ones won't fit.
Perry miniatures makes a couple of great plastic kits to represent heavy and light cavalry in late 15th Century, but if you want to mix them with Gw ones (Electoral cavalry and Reiters respectively), I suggest you not to.
The reason why is soon explained:

(https://s17.postimg.org/qskiejp73/DSCN1502.jpg)

I think the picture is speaking by herself. :ph34r:
From right to left: Perry Knight, Gw 6th edition, Gw 8th edition (conversion) and Gw 7th edition (Captain and General kit)
The difference amongst sizes is quite stunning and may be seen from far away, but maybe they can work together.
Surely not in the same unit.

A point about Artillery

It's the same situation we pointed out about cavalry, but here it's even worse: not only the aviable Perry artillery is metal and Gw proportions are even more exgerated.

Here, a pic:

(https://s17.postimg.org/s7m33fy1r/DSCN1514.jpg)

Quite a deal to make them fit in the same army, I suppose. :Ohmy:

If needed, I can provide a couple more pics and opinions.
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Post by: Zygmund on March 07, 2018, 08:55:59 AM: Good comparisons, thank you. :::cheers:::

The only problem is with the artillery photo. You put the bigger GW artillery piece at the front and the smaller Perry piece at the back, thus enhancing the difference. (Of course there is a huge difference, the GW gunners are 30mm from foot to eye, so even bigger and bulkier than the Militia. And the Great Cannon is more akin to a siege cannon on wheels. But the Empire is a fantasy land, in the end.)

-Z
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Post by: Dark Lord Galax on March 07, 2018, 12:09:57 PM: You're right on both your points! :happy:

So, here's a better pic to remedy:

(https://s17.postimg.org/bi2q7p47z/DSCN1516.jpg)

The main fact is Gw crew is truly sculpted "bigger" than their rank and file counterpart of the same edition, while Perry one is even smaller than plastic mercenaries, thus making the comparison even more impressive.

:dry:

I'll soon make one to compare Gw and Perry metal infantrymen since the result is quite different from plastic models.
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Post by: Midaski on March 15, 2018, 08:44:44 PM: I have 'repaired' a few of the pics throughout this thread.
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Post by: SDPalmer12 on March 21, 2018, 05:51:08 AM: Thanks for all the work DarkLord Galax - you're following along exactly what I have been painting the last few months.
I'll post a picture of my completed Perry WoTR Halberdiers next to 6th GW Spearmen in a bit.
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Post by: Padre on March 23, 2018, 10:05:30 AM: How about Wargames foundry Hundred Years War mounted knights compared with GW Bretonnian knights? I was just about to press 'Pay' when I realised I should check first. (Their civilian range looks ace ... I'm buying all of them.)
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Post by: Bugman on October 23, 2018, 11:15:33 PM: You don’t happen to hVe those cab pictures do you? Thank you
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Post by: White Knight on June 16, 2019, 09:49:34 AM: Quote from: Padre on March 23, 2018, 10:05:30 AM
How about Wargames foundry Hundred Years War mounted knights compared with GW Bretonnian knights? I was just about to press 'Pay' when I realised I should check first. (Their civilian range looks ace ... I'm buying all of them.)

Small 28mm, so pretty tiny compared to GW Bretonnians.
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Post by: VonOttenheim on November 03, 2019, 06:09:47 AM: Does anyone have a comparison shot of CMONs "A Song of Ice and Fire- Starks" and Fireforge Games "Forgotten World- Northern Kingdom" ?
(If they are even released yet…)

Lots of nice minis being released lately….feeling very fortunate :biggriin:
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Post by: solarcross on November 07, 2019, 12:35:43 PM: Quote from: VonOttenheim on November 03, 2019, 06:09:47 AM
Does anyone have a comparison shot of CMONs "A Song of Ice and Fire- Starks" and Fireforge Games "Forgotten World- Northern Kingdom" ?
(If they are even released yet…)

Lots of nice minis being released lately….feeling very fortunate :biggriin:
Yup, I was a backer of Fireforge Games Forgotten World; I got my greedy claws on both Northmen and Living Dead early. I was looking at the northmen as alternative Bretonnians and I thought I would not be the only one so I did a bit of a review and scale comparison on my blog:

https://solarcrossgames.co.uk/the-hobby/northmen-and-living-dead/ (https://solarcrossgames.co.uk/the-hobby/northmen-and-living-dead/)

I also did a youtube video review and unboxing, you can find the link in the blog article. It's a bit long but if you just want the size comparison you can skip to 29:00.

for bonus points I also examined fireforge Games Albion knights.

TL;DR
Northmen are an exact fit in terms of scale and proportion (GW Heroic Scale) but Albion Knights are not! (28mm true scale)
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Post by: VonOttenheim on November 08, 2019, 10:57:43 AM: Thank you for the Northmen comparison. :::cheers:::

They look really good. A must buy it seems. :smile2:

Strange that the Albions arent same scale as they supposedly also are a part of Forgotten Worlds.
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Post by: Zygmund on November 09, 2019, 07:30:04 AM: Quote from: VonOttenheim on November 08, 2019, 10:57:43 AM
Strange that the Albions arent same scale as they supposedly also are a part of Forgotten Worlds.

The Albion knights are based on FF historical minis, which are close to truescale 28mm. With the Forgotten World kickstarter, they intentionally created a 'heroic 28mm' fantasy line.

-Z
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Post by: solarcross on November 25, 2019, 07:05:44 PM: I just made an absurdly detailed comparison of Perry Mercenaries with GW handgunners:
(https://solarcrossgames.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/torsoTSvHS.jpg)
https://solarcrossgames.co.uk/wfb/perry-mercenaries-vs-gw-handgunners-empire-troops/ (https://solarcrossgames.co.uk/wfb/perry-mercenaries-vs-gw-handgunners-empire-troops/)

I explore the potential for cross scale kitbashing too. :biggriin:
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Post by: solarcross on December 08, 2019, 01:39:26 PM: https://youtu.be/V4wCmyaW3Mo
Perry vs Games Workshop for Empire State Troops on Youtube
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Post by: Von Zorn on November 13, 2020, 06:30:50 PM: I'm curious to see how the new Oathmark skeletons are gonna stack up. They look really good, and I like the bronze armour and such that they wear, for that truly ancient risen warrior look. The Mantic skeletons are a bit on the goofy side, GW ones are very expensive (and I have never really liked the idea of someone making spooky undead-themed armour for them to dress in), and other plastic skeletons are a bit too Greek themed, or rubbish.
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Post by: Padre on November 13, 2020, 06:52:31 PM: I would be very interested too, despite already having surfeit of skeletons!
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Post by: Von Zorn on November 13, 2020, 07:16:05 PM: One can never have too many!