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Title: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Midaski on May 05, 2007, 03:32:57 PM
Also known as the League of Ostermark - and famous for the War of The Ostermark Succession  :icon_wink: - this is the furthest east of the Empire's provinces.

Library Link:  http://warhammer-empire.com/library/aisforaltdorf/the-league-of-ostermark/

Current Ruler:  Elector Count Wolfram Hertwig
Capital: Bechafen
Province Colours:  Purple and Yellow (or Purple and White)
Economy: Mainly based on agriculture.



Map Link:   (Colour)  http://www.fys.ku.dk/~blicher/Ostermark_v2.jpg

      (Black & White)  http://www.fys.ku.dk/~blicher/Ostermark_v2_bw.jpg

Notes:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Stolzeuhu on May 27, 2007, 07:55:48 PM
Long time ago I wrote huge post with questions about Ostermark - http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=16099.0 (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=16099.0) -and as I still seek clear answers to some of that questions, I'll add link to it - it also may be helpfull for those starting Ostermark. Also the maps above are very detailed - they're better than those in Heirs of Sigmar. I had also a list of details about Ostermark towns and villages (ruler, number of people living in, number of militia/soldiers etc.), when I find it, i'll post a link to it. Useful thing: according to that list, there are 1254 soldiers in Ostermark (for 13456 total population).
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Van Der Walt on June 01, 2007, 07:43:24 PM
Hullo, well, though not an official Ostermark Army, I do have an army based around the concept of the old Ostermark Death Head Regiment, painted in reds and black. Although few in numbers they're stout of heart me fellas  :biggriin: and will fight all abominations that attempt to take our precious lands...

Come on,there should be more generals who are ready to fight for our noble cause  :unsure:

Upon my solemn oath...
Van der Walt
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Fafnir on June 12, 2007, 06:48:44 PM
I fight for our noble cause, even if I shun the yellow in favour of the blue. Painting two Averland armies in the past will do that to you...
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Malvino on June 13, 2007, 08:10:34 PM
a present for all ostermarkers followers of Morr!
a banner and a little logo for you! :happy:
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2339/morr017ae6.jpg)
and now a little request
someone had some info about the deat's head regiment!?... :ph34r: :blush:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Soju on June 14, 2007, 12:21:12 PM
Malvino those are totally osome! Sehr Gut! oh wait, that's not Italian...

sj
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Malvino on June 14, 2007, 01:34:28 PM
thank you sojung! :happy:
i have a lot of new drawings to show to this forum! :-)
see ya tomorroe in the brush and palette!
anyone had some info on deat's head regiment!?...
please... :blush:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Otaku on June 15, 2007, 05:44:33 AM
I also want to know about this Deaths Head regement.  Who were they. What kind of weapons do they use. Colors?
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Stolzeuhu on June 16, 2007, 09:41:29 AM
It seems that the famous regiment was described in WD - but I can only suspect - WFRP sources don't mention about it (but I still haven't read the Sylvanian expansion), there is nothing about them in Mordheim sources... The only details we know about it are:
-the name
-the colours (red and black, as Van Der Walt mentioned)

So I think we have to  decide on our own what exactly it is. Maybe small brain storm or competition for story describing it/it's history?
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Malvino on June 16, 2007, 10:22:55 AM
@stolzehu great! if you want i can draw something! :happy:
but what kind of unit i have to plan?...greatswords!?...
let's the brainstorming start!!
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Van Der Walt on June 16, 2007, 01:26:09 PM
Well , I would say that the regiment would be somewhat lacking in technological advancements as the Vampire invasion occurred in the year c.2140 which is around 400 years before the present time, so forget rocket battery and probably also the HBVG.

The Colleges of Magic were not established either yet,as this occured before the time of Magnus the Pious (elected in 2304) so you wouldn't have much magical protection and offense without wizards. On the other hand Warrior Priests and maybe arch lectors are a must as vampires are abominations unto sigmar  :icon_eek:

Knights of Morr are needless to say another must.

Flagellants would also probably flock around the WPs and ALs so at least one unit of them would help add flavour.

About special units like pistoliers and outriders i don't know, Pistoliers would probably be viable from the local nobility, but outriders are maybe too hi-tech.

Just my 2 pence, hope you may find it a little helpful.

Ragards,
Van Der Walt
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Fafnir on June 16, 2007, 08:54:36 PM
The thing about the Death's Head, if you want to include them, is that you have to decide whether they are simply a unit in your army (Greatswords perhaps, or halberdiers for flavour) or that your entire army is a Death's Head regiment, with colours to match. Since that is not made clear in the fluff, it's your choice - fortunately.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Stolzeuhu on June 16, 2007, 09:37:01 PM
I think that as it is called regiment it is not a whole army devoted to Morr, but one specific unit. It is an elite, and it's fame lures veterans from other companies to join - that's why it's name is passed on... Like Carroburg Greatswords - it's old unit and no one from it's first squad still lives, but newcomers did replace them so that the regiment could exist. It has it's traditions (like specific uniforms e.t.c.), maybe even some detachment's traditionally accompanying them?

But on the other hand, an idea of a regiment as a subsistent force, as Van Der Walt presented, is also tempting... It must have some influences (so that knigths of independent could order agree to join them), maybe even a fortress and few villages to provide supplies, or maybe it is sworn to one noble family (which sons by tradition command regiment)...  and as Ostermark is a League, it can play some important role in constant war between Ostermark nobles... or it is loyal only to the chancellor of the league. There are so many possibilities...

I think that if the regiment is so famous that it's members are replaced and it still exists, the wizards or hi-tech unit's won't be a problem - as an elite it has to use the best options available - or they have some oath that forbid them use something (like white wolves without helmets, worshippers of Ulric forbidden from using blackpowder weapons and crossbows in WFRP)...

And somethig for Malvino to draw - Death's Head - an army or only a regiment - must have specific banner - so maybe you could make one?

And connected with that question for Van Der Walt: what banners do you use in your army? It will be good thing to start cementing the facts from the banner, so pictures of your BSB would be priceless :-D
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Malvino on June 17, 2007, 09:14:03 AM
Actual skulls and bones were long used to mark the entrances to Spanish cemeteries (campo santo). The practice, dating back many centuries, led to the symbol eventually becoming associated with the concept of death
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Cemetery_Entrance.jpg/800px-Cemetery_Entrance.jpg)
From the Middle Ages in the West, skulls acted as memento mori, reminders that time passes rapidly, life is not endless, and earthly things are transient. They appeared on funerary monuments, in still-life paintings, and were held in representations of saints.

Victory of death over life: commonly the skull is a symbol of death, (or some romantic notion of immortality - as the befief that a spiritual part of a person survives death).

The death-resurrection cycle
The skull and crossbone symbol is also used in initiation rituals as a symbol of rebirth. it may also symbolize the ‘sephirah daath’ on the kabbalistic tree of life, the gateway to the higher realms of understanding only achievable through spiritual death and rebirth. a skull did not inspire horror, on the contrary, it symbolised the promise of a new life.

ies i've do a little search...only for have some ideas...
i've reported the parts that i found interesting, focus on the sibology of "death's head" commonly we see only the concept of death and decay but i think that followers of morr ideally had a different point of wiew...
this is a first schetch, the skull is naturally (not a bad skull) and the black rose of morr is the centre of the banner represent the triumph of morr on the horror of death...
i also include a "chess" texture that is the scheme of my own army and in this banner has the stylized form of an hourglass...
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6749/shead023lg2.jpg)
see you soon!
Malv
EDIT anyway if you want i think that we can start with "only" a regiment realising banners, models and rules, before we can start to realise the project of an entire army!
@van der walt great analisis! if you have any banner please submit them!
@stolzehu i like the idea that it's members are replaced and it still exists...maybe a knightly order...or best a outrider unit...armed only with crossbows and great wepons....
it's only brain storming...
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Stolzeuhu on June 17, 2007, 09:41:51 AM
Great banner! By the way: how to say Death's Head in latin (classical) or german (reikspiel)?  Caput Mortis and Todes Kopf (I think that Totenkopf is not a good idea...)?

Actually that research helped me to get used to the new empire fashion - skulls on everything -the general sprue has even a head with skull between the feathers in the hat. I was deeply convinced that the only morr symbols are black raven, gate and black rose - the skulls were a symbols of necromancy for me - but the "natural" looking skull can also be very "morrite"...
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Malvino on June 17, 2007, 10:03:19 AM
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9885/shead2024bi2.jpg)
a new idea, i like the chess background in this way!, i've insert the portals of morr reign, but i think that the skull profile is better than this wiew by front...

in this time i figure a unit of horseman, heavily armoured and equipped whith crossbows and great swords, a little unit that travel around ostermark province to haunt and slay necromancers and undead...they leader ostentate a vampire skull...whit a black rose between his theet, this was the Carmilla von cartsein head, and is the symbol that Morr has the controll of ALL souls of old world, even on a vapire soul!...

is only an idea...but i like it eventually someone more expert than me can contestualize this idea in a point of the empire temporary line...


@stolzehu trus me this research has also helped me too to understand new empire fashion!...
in italia is "testa di morto" in latin i have to ask to my girlfriend...but i think that caput mortis was correct!
EDIT she say that in classical latin it was "MORTIS CAPUT" because the genitive come first...

this is only a test mini assembled whit yellow stuff...
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6428/deadhead003ea3.jpg)
(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2267/deadhead002za1.jpg)
i think that a appropriate hat and a gorget against vapire can fit well...maybe a more armoured horse...
i attend your feedback!
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Van Der Walt on June 17, 2007, 10:49:38 AM

And connected with that question for Van Der Walt: what banners do you use in your army? It will be good thing to start cementing the facts from the banner, so pictures of your BSB would be priceless :-D


Well to tell you the truth I haven''t finished the army yet, still having the last block of spearmen to paint. I really wasn't sure about how to make my Army banner but was trying to invent something with a skull and a scarlet rose as they're the most suited icons. I do have to say that Malvino sure made some great work with those sketches  :eusa_clap: they will surely be of great help when i come to designing my own banner, many thanks to you  :happy:

Regards,
Van Der Walt
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Stolzeuhu on June 17, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
Another great banner - you must be trurly talented - according to the time when the reply was posted you've made it in 20 minutes!
There was DoW character - a vampire hunter, can't remember his name, but he had a helper, possibly a priest of Sigmar - maybe his fluff was connected with Death's Head? Or at least Ostermark...
Can't wait to read the Night Dark Masters...
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Malvino on June 17, 2007, 01:26:53 PM
yeah my friend you speak about
jhoan van hal and wilhelm hasburg!
but they was two sigmar worshipper, now i want a morr's witch-vapire hunter!but i've a dubt...about the vapire head...maybe once the vapire was killed his body turns to sand or similar...and we dunno have any head to show as trophy...but Carmilla can be a necromancer :ph34r:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Fafnir on June 17, 2007, 03:44:27 PM
I should, in the interest of full disclosure, mention that there is as far as I know there is nothing in the background connecting the Death's Head regiment with Morr. Both Knights of Morr and warriors dedicated to Morr in general are extremely rare, and reason suggest an army from Ostermark is more likely not to include any of them than to do so, so anyone wanting to make a Death's Head regiment without any connection to Morr is certainly free to do so.

On the other hand, Morr iconography would certainly fit very nicely on such a regiment, and I think I too would make the Death's Head followers of Morr, were I to paint some.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Otto Student on July 31, 2007, 10:32:46 PM
I remember the Death's Head being mentioned in pasing in thefirst Empire Army book. I have a regiment of (lead!) halberdiers that I painted up in the red and black. I think they are a bit like an elite unit, probably just a name that has stayed with them. According to Sigmar's Heirs there aren't any knights of Morr, that hasn't stopped me making some tho, but as Fafnir says they should be rare. I just ue the normal rules for halberdiers, perhaps with swordsmen and handgunner detatchments.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Stolzeuhu on August 15, 2007, 09:02:56 PM
According to Sigmar's Heirs there aren't any knights of Morr, that hasn't stopped me making some tho,

I'm almost sure that there are knights of Morr mentioned in Sigmar's Heirs - in the Ostermark section or in the religion section. I'm also almost sure that there is a morrite outpost in Ostermark village (probalby Essen, but I don't remember the name). I'll check that tomorrow, as I don't have the book now with me.

Well, what I can remember correctly is that each province in Sigmar's Heirs has sample NPC, and Ostermark has noble wishing to join the Morr Knightly Order - so there must be one...
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: NDC-OSPREY on July 14, 2008, 08:25:33 PM
hi all. I've decided that I'm  over from Averland to Ostermark. i prefer the background and the colour scheme. Now I'm wondering since I've started to paint my knights up in blazing sun style, would this fit in with Ostermark or should i repaint them? if so what orders are their that are prominent in Ostermark?
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Karl Voss of Averland on July 14, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
hi all. I've decided that I'm  over from Averland to Ostermark.

 :x

 ::heretic::

[/bias]
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: NDC-OSPREY on July 15, 2008, 08:19:24 AM
Quote


  :x
 
::heretic::
[/bias]

Sorry. Oh, and having read more of this thread i don't want morrite knights.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Karl Voss of Averland on July 15, 2008, 01:44:16 PM
No need for apologies, I was being facetious  :happy:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: badgernine on August 05, 2008, 09:24:24 PM
Hey all, I decided to paint my Brand spankin new Empire Models in the Ostermark colors. Mainly because I liked the purple and white colors, and like Purple. (I painted my last army in Purple) So, how do you all go about painting the colors? For the white, I'm asumming bleached bone, with some sort of ink or wash?
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: wissenlander on August 06, 2008, 03:52:41 PM
Hey Badgernine.  I'd love to help you with that question, but I'm not much of a painter.  You can either try and wait out a response (as these threads don't get looked at as much as they should) or you can post the same question over in the Brush and Palette.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Dreadaxe on September 01, 2008, 02:22:37 PM
It seems that the famous regiment was described in WD - but I can only suspect - WFRP sources don't mention about it (but I still haven't read the Sylvanian expansion), there is nothing about them in Mordheim sources... The only details we know about it are:
-the name
-the colours (red and black, as Van Der Walt mentioned)

Describe to WD? Which?
Death's Head state troup are only quote to WFB4 AB Empire page 51. The french edition say Red and White but maybe i't's a error of translate.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: JGraham on October 06, 2008, 04:15:16 AM
Topic says it all.  Can anyone recommend any sources for the background of the Death's Head regiment?  It seems it might have been described in an earlier Empire army book, and perhaps a White Dwarf.  Any specifics?

I've been looking for a paint scheme for the state troops in my Witchhunter-themed army, and red and black would fit quite nicely.

Cheers,
Jim
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Vann Harl on October 06, 2008, 08:52:32 AM
There's a nice little modeling tip I can suggest.

Take the skull motif used for empire shields and clip off the middle pring on the crown. It can now be used very nicely as a chest plate for Soldiers and knights. It will require that you file down the existing chest of the torso. But if you make it really flush then you have a model with a huge skull on his chest and can look quite cool

Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 06, 2008, 09:05:55 AM
Can anyone recommend any sources for the background of the Death's Head regiment?  It seems it might have been described in an earlier Empire army book, and perhaps a White Dwarf.  Any specifics?

I think it's just a name. This is the only information I am aware of:

Quote from: province guide
The Death’s Head Regiment, formed during the wars of the vampire counts, are an exception to the usual colour scheme of the Ostermark army, wearing black and red uniforms.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 06, 2008, 12:12:40 PM
Yohoo!
Here I was going to do a Stirland army, but then I realize I do not need to repaint the colour scheme of my only painted Halberdier regiment, since they are BLACK & RED!

Here, have a kiss Rufus! You saved my day!  :icon_mrgreen: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: JGraham on October 06, 2008, 05:37:42 PM
My search-fu found this:
Quote
Death's Head state troup are only quote to WFB4 AB Empire page 51. The french edition say Red and White but maybe i't's a error of translate

Anyone with the 4th edition Empire army book care to take a look at page 51 and let me know what it says about the Death's Head?

Much obliged,
Jim
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Powder Monkey on October 06, 2008, 05:41:54 PM
I think they were mentioned also in 'The Empire at War', though my memory is a bit vague there... Is anybody in possession of that book and can confirm?



Your Powder Mnemonkey
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 06, 2008, 11:17:53 PM
My search-fu found this:
Quote
Death's Head state troup are only quote to WFB4 AB Empire page 51. The french edition say Red and White but maybe i't's a error of translate

Anyone with the 4th edition Empire army book care to take a look at page 51 and let me know what it says about the Death's Head?

Much obliged,
Jim

It says what I already quoted.  :icon_lol:

Less, in fact:

"...the Death's Head regiment of Ostermark (black and red)...



Quote from: Mathi Alfblut
Here, have a kiss Rufus! You saved my day!

Thanks!
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: ZehKaiser on October 06, 2008, 11:28:39 PM
I think they were mentioned also in 'The Empire at War', though my memory is a bit vague there... Is anybody in possession of that book and can confirm?



Your Powder Mnemonkey

I have the "Empire at War" (great fluff btw, better than the AB) but unfortunately it doesn't have fluff about the Death's Head Regiment of Ostermark.  It does however have fluff about the Black Guard Regiment of Ostland.  So I can easily see the confusion.  I've got plenty of excerpts I'd post but I'm not sure if I can w/out breaking the rules.  But suffice to say they are pretty badass (they're greatswords btw).
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: JGraham on October 06, 2008, 11:44:15 PM
My search-fu found this:
Quote
Death's Head state troup are only quote to WFB4 AB Empire page 51. The french edition say Red and White but maybe i't's a error of translate

Anyone with the 4th edition Empire army book care to take a look at page 51 and let me know what it says about the Death's Head?

Much obliged,
Jim

It says what I already quoted.  :icon_lol:

Less, in fact:

"...the Death's Head regiment of Ostermark (black and red)...


Such detail!  Is this in the context of listing the colors of regiments that differ in color from the standard state troop colors?  Where does the Vampire Wars bit come from?

Inquiring minds need to know!

Jim
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 06, 2008, 11:49:45 PM
Yes, it's the part where they mention exceptions to the general provincial colours - in between the scarlet guard of Stirland and the Carroburg greatswords.

I'm not sure where the vampire wars bit came from. Possibly it was just a guess.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: JGraham on October 07, 2008, 12:21:45 AM
From such humble beginnings, mighty empires are built!

Cheers for the info,
Jim
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: . Ostermark . on November 16, 2008, 11:14:25 PM
here, this is from the official games-workshop Australia Site. red and black with yellow details. :-D

(http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/struecker_2008/artostermark1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Krieger von berg on November 19, 2008, 11:52:22 PM
Hey everyone.

Im new to warhammer and am very excited about starting my collection. I read my rulebook and the army book and I have decided on collecting a force from the Ostermark. Mainly because i really the purple and yellow color scheme and i think the backround story is quiet interesting. When i was deciding on where from the Ostermark my army would be from i was intrested in creating a 'themed' army. I liked the idea of some soldiers that come from the mountains with big beards and stuff, which is why i named my Captain Krieger von Berg which i believe is 'Man of Mountain' in German. I thought it suited an alpine force quiet well.

I thought it would be really fun to make a winter themed force, and have the models sort of rugged up in lots of armour and clothes. When i was looking at the selection of boxed sets at the Games Workshop store the empire minatures were a bit...soft, they didnt look they had lived in the ostermark and endured alot of harsh winters and fierce battles so i looked around at some other minatures from the other armies and spotted the brettonian peasents, Perfect.

They look more like the soldiers i was after, lots of leather armour and rag-tag clothing. As it says in the library section of this website, the Ostermark is technologically backward and so would not make heavy use of more advanced equiptment eg. Helblaster volley guns and Helstorm Rocket Launchers and would use less expensive and weapons that were easier to maintain such as the spear and the bow. So with my mind made up i bought a box set of empire statetroops (for the spear and halberd tips and the heads) a box of Bretonnian peasents, some paint, brushes, glue, modelling sand and some snow.

I quickly assembled a few guys and got to painting, im really enjoying it so far and i cant wait to upload a few pictures of my guys when their finished.

please give me any comments and suggestions on uniform patterns, backround stories anything at all that could help me, after all im the newb :icon_wink:

Thankyou and wish me luck :laugh:

James
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Overlord Fuzz on July 15, 2009, 03:09:24 PM
I really like the fluff behind Ostermark and also it's name. Do you think a teal and black color scheme would look good and be okay in terms of fluff. I just didn't want to be like all other armies with a primary of purple, and so on.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Warlord on July 15, 2009, 03:31:58 PM
Teal and black would look smashing IMO. Not necessarily Ostermark, but nice all the same.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Delthos on August 14, 2009, 08:17:25 PM
I actually went with yellow and burgundy instead of yellow and purple as it looks that way in my army book. It wasn't until after I started painting them that I found it was actually yellow and purple. After looking at some Empire painted yellow and purple, I found I didn't really like the yellow and purple so much, and that I actually liked the yellow and burgundy more. You can see in my Painting Log post from the Brush and Palette. There isn't much there now, but I will have some more uploaded soon.
Title: Re:
Post by: Warlord on August 16, 2009, 03:57:59 AM
Yellow and burgandy works well too IMO. Dont get too hung up on it.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Doppelsoldner on August 19, 2009, 02:11:41 AM
Having returned to Warhammer after several years (actually I was a 40k player but collected Bretonnian and Wood Elf minitures) I have decided to paint up an Empire army in Ostermark colours.

One thing that I would like to know is where Ostermark fits into real world history in geographical terms.  Osterreich is another name for Austria and I wondered if anyone had done any research into this.  Fluff for my army centres around the town of Landungsbrucke on a tributary of the river Stir close to Karak Kadrin.  My idea was that this town would echo the silver mining regions of medieval Czech towns like Kurtna Hora and Jhilava; providing silver for the Imperial mint and receiving military aid in return.

Does this fluff sound acceptable?
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Castozor on August 28, 2009, 07:05:11 PM
Having returned to Warhammer after several years (actually I was a 40k player but collected Bretonnian and Wood Elf minitures) I have decided to paint up an Empire army in Ostermark colours.

One thing that I would like to know is where Ostermark fits into real world history in geographical terms.  Osterreich is another name for Austria and I wondered if anyone had done any research into this.  Fluff for my army centres around the town of Landungsbrucke on a tributary of the river Stir close to Karak Kadrin.  My idea was that this town would echo the silver mining regions of medieval Czech towns like Kurtna Hora and Jhilava; providing silver for the Imperial mint and receiving military aid in return.

Does this fluff sound acceptable?

I think that sounds acceptable enough. I don't think anyone would mind giving military support if you gave them silver in return.  :-)

About the geography: I'm not sure if one should place the various provinces on a realworld map as to acquire information about what people would be doing in that province. But that's just my opinion and your guess and opinions are as good as mine

Castozor
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Doppelsoldner on August 30, 2009, 02:08:24 AM
Cheers for help.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Klaus on May 04, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
I hope i'm not going to cause any trouble by posting here.

After much deliberation, and aching over the pictures in the Heraldry of the Empire book, i've eventually decided that my slowly growing army will be an Ostermark one (truth be told, though, I was already leaning in this direction anyway).

For the Empire, Ostermark, Hertwig & Menshenfresserhoffen!  :smile2:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Osterkicker on January 23, 2012, 02:18:54 AM
Thread bump  :happy:

I wanted to touch base to find some fluff for my Ostermark Army.  Essen is mentioned quite a bit in the heraldry book, for being a town of origin for both the Death's Head and Knights of Everlasting Light.  I plan on adding a Death's Head halberdier unit as a detachment, but steered clear of the Everlasting Light, mainly because I haven't gotten overly adventurous in the realm of kit bashing and I didn't want them to just be a re-colored Reiksguard unit.  That being said, I did use the Reiksgard to add some direct Imperial flavor to the army, as well as some Knights Panther support.

Anyway, I wanted to check and see if there was any newer source material or books that might add some flavor to an army of the Ostermark.  Cheers.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Delthos on January 23, 2012, 02:48:16 AM
Unfortunately I've not seen anything new specifically for the Ostermark.
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Osterkicker on January 23, 2012, 04:32:27 AM
No worries, I'll have to take a few liberties  :icon_twisted:.  The guy who owns the GW store near where I live plays with VC (he's pretty excited about their 8th ed release).  Since I haven't actually played a game I'll probably take 500pts or so from my Ostermark army to get it's blood sucked out against his VC's.....should look pretty awesome on a table though. 
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Darknight on January 24, 2012, 03:53:06 PM
should look pretty awesome on a table though.

And that is all that matters!  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Yacovitch on February 18, 2012, 09:59:17 PM
Just started a new Ostermark Army, Cant wait to read all the Fluff!  :happy:
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Gorgash Redfang on June 15, 2012, 07:49:08 AM
WIP    will add more tomorrow :smile2:

History
Ostermark has suffered many disasters in its time. In 1999 the capital Mordheim was obliterated by a comet – the Elector, Count Steinhardt, was killed, and the province all but ceased to exist. Ten years later Vlad von Carstein devastated what remained when he began his war against The Empire. Ostermark has never fully recovered from these calamities, and even today the south of the province is severely under populated. As a result, Morr, god of the Dead, is venerated here more than in any other province.

Troops
Deaths Head Halberdiers
(http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/hh482/David_Body/Empire/Horses/DH_Drawing-200x200.jpg)

The Death’s Head Regiment, formed during formed during the reign of  Vlad von Carstein. Subjugating Sylvania was not enough for the Vampire Count as he spread his realm, preparing to launch what history calls the Vampire Wars. Those who dared to defy this draconian rule disappeared. Informers were Everywhere. In the town of Essen those willing to fight left behind the purple and yellow of old regiments and formed a new unit garbed in sombre black and red. Masks were worn to keep their identities secret. After freeing Essen the  unit gained notoriety on many battlefields, taking the fight into Sylvania after the great victory of Hel Fenn.
Originating from the town of Essen,the Death's Heads now recruit from all over Ostermark

Uniforms and Heraldry of the Empire Page 70
 
Knights
The Osterknact

These knights are the premier knightly order of the Ostermark. They are something like the Reiksguard is to the Reik, only for the Ostermark. They are dressed in the same colors (Maroon and Yellow) as the Provincial troops. They were headquartered in the capital of that province during the time of the three emperors. But the capital at that time was Mordheim, which was later destroyed by a comet. It is unknown if The Osterknact survived the disaster because as they have not been refered to in any context in modern times. This may be a lost order. If they do still exist, they most likely reside in Bechafen.

(more can be learned in The Claws of Chaos, A Black Library novel which I have not read.)
Warhammer Quiz Book, Black Library publishing pg 95, 144
The Claws of Chaos, The Black Library.


The Templars of the Everlasting Light
(A.K.A Knights of the Everlasting Light)

“The warrior code of this Order is founded squarely on the principles of justice and fairness. Naturally, as nobles, the Templars’ opinion of justice contrasts markedly with that of the common folk, but it cannot be argued that the Templars often willingly fight for those who have no others to defend them. Templars of the Everlasting Light defended the plague-struck village of Hafbad when no other would, and members of their Order gave their lives to defeat the mighty Shaggoth Brakorth in the Worlds Edge Mountains. Despite such deeds, the Order has passed into history for another, less glorious reason: the Templars of the Everlasting Light are cursed.
The secret of how they became thus afflicted is locked within the Order’s records, but speculation has it that they offended some deity while on crusade in Araby. Whatever the cause, they find themselves thrown from their horses at inopportune moments; swords break as a deathblow is delivered; and seemingly stable earth turns to marsh or quicksand once the hooves of their steeds touch it. Only a member of this Order (Kurt von Tzalza) could be struck in the eye by a ricochet that was fired behind him. Only a Grand Master of the Everlasting Light (Sigismund Drak) could be dumped unceremoniously into a cart-load of manure during a victory parade in Altdorf, the only such cart for many miles around. Only one Chapterhouse, in the entire history of the Empire, has vanished into a yawning chasm as the result of a freak earth tremor. There are many more varied accounts of this ill-fortune in the histories of the Empire. Nevertheless, the Templars of the Everlasting Light never want for recruits. To a certain class of nobility, it is better to belong to a famous Order, however unlucky it may be, than to one whose name is unknown beyond the walls of their Chapterhouse”.
Famous members: captain-marshal Drehenborg who was killed by Deathmaster Snitch. Grand Master Kessler, who left Wolfram Hertwig, a young and stubborn Elector Count of the Ostermark, to fight a battle alone since he refused to relinquish control of the army to the Grand master. Many soldiers died due to the boys inexperience. The battle was won but became known as Hertwig’s Folly.
The Knight polish their armour to a highly reflective shine, the current  chapterhouse is based in the city  of Essen in Ostermark. 
Empire knightly orders article, WD 310
6th edition Empire army book, pg 12. WHFB Empire army book 7th edition, Hertwig’s Folly, pg 41


The Knights of Morr
(Possibly the same Order as the Knights of Morr and the Black Guard of Morr)

“Encased within black armour and deathly silent when on the battlefield, the Knights of Morr are the dark guardians of the Empire. When parents wish to get their children to sleep at night, they tell them that the Knights of Morr will come for them unless they rest.
The Knights of Morr are widely feared for their devotion to the god of the dead, and dark tales abound regarding their initiation rites. Even so, their martial prowess is more than welcome to those they fight alongside, for their silent efficiency is among the best in the Empire”. Seen less frequently on the open battlefield then knights of other orders, the sinister Black Guard are more often encountered traveling alone or in small groups, seeking out corrupt sorcerers who would interfere with the realm of the dead and take resting souls form their place at Morr’s side. In this capacity they frequently work alongside the Witch Hunters of Sigmar, combining arms to deal with an undead threat.
Empire knightly orders article, WD 310


.................. To be continued...........

Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Osterkicker on October 17, 2012, 03:39:42 AM
Thank you Gorgash for the fluff information.  I've been deployed and away from gaming for the past few months or I would have responded sooner.  I've heard about the Osterknact but haven't seen any solid reference to them, so thank especially for that.  I'll have to check out some of those black library books as well. 

My army is growing.  I'm a hunstman unit and great cannon away from my 2500 pt goal.  Of course, only about 60% of that is painted, so it's time to stock up on my scab red and golden yellow, grab a brush, and get to work.   
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Gorgash Redfang on October 17, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
I just took some fluff from here and the Empire Uniforms and Heraldry book
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Facilier_ on July 03, 2013, 08:09:44 PM
*bows* Greetings from a new Ostermark general :) I've posted my army background in the Imperial Office, so please bear with my rather unorthodox uniform colors  :icon_redface: My army is still Ostermark in both soul and mindset  :happy: the humble beginnings:

http://s23.postimg.org/6ml0fyc6j/image.jpg (http://s23.postimg.org/6ml0fyc6j/image.jpg)
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: mikef350 on June 21, 2014, 07:15:08 PM
Hi all

Another newbie here who has just receaved a used empire army and i want to paint it in ostermark colours.

Can any one tell me which forum is best for doing a blog on the painting progress?

Thnaks
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: gartenzing on October 07, 2014, 09:17:41 PM
So having started to paint my Empire as Ostermark, I then read the End-Times fluff in Nagash- anyone else have any thoughts on the possible consequences for this beloved province?
Title: Re: The Province of OSTERMARK
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 07, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
If you are really into the ET, start painting zombies and skeletons in the Ostermark colours.