Topic: TEG3: TCW's Creeping Death Tactical Thread (Chaos Only)

[Holy Hand Grenade]

Tactical Exposition Game 3:  TCWarroom's Creeping Death Tactical Thread

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Current Chaos Team Members:

TCWarroom (General)                         
Zif
Rothgar
Noght
Grifter
Forumite


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Team Chaos-

A few things for you to start thinking/talking about.

First-  your spells.

Your DP Death Wiz rolled a 3, 5, 5, 6
After you figure out those spells, your Lvl1 Death Sorc rolled a 5.

Once you have discussed your spell choices and decided, please post them in the Battle Thread since I will no longer be viewing this thread until the battle is over.

It would help TCWarroom if you appointed a few Lieutenants that have your permission to respond in the Battle Thread if I have questions pending.

Last-  start thinking/commenting on what side you want to pick if you win the roll.

 
HHG

[Noght]

I'm feeling like the DP should have 0, 5, 6 for sure.

TZ flier with 5 might be nice also.

12" range fo Bjuna is fine on flyers to wreck the STank.

Of course, Doom & Darkness might be swell, who cares if you are Stubborn 5.  Plus Terror Bombing....

[rothgar13]

I'm with Noght as far as spells are concerned - you throw Spirit Leech out there early (I'd double up on that with the L1, because it really hurts the Tank), Fate once you're in range to pick off characters, and every turn is a good turn to cast Purple Sun.

[zifnab0]

The Tzeentch Exalted Hero isn't a wizard, unfortunately.

My suggestion:

Level 1: 5

Daemon Prince: 0, 3, 4, 6

[Warwhore]

I'm with Noght as far as spells are concerned - you throw Spirit Leech out there early (I'd double up on that with the L1, because it really hurts the Tank), Fate once you're in range to pick off characters, and every turn is a good turn to cast Purple Sun.

I agree. My vote: DP gets 0 3 5 6 while the lvl 1 gets 0.

[Warwhore]

The Tzeentch Exalted Hero isn't a wizard, unfortunately.

My suggestion:

Level 1: 5

Daemon Prince: 0, 3, 4, 6

The 5th spell Fate of Bjuna is cast on a 13+ meaning that the lvl 1 would have to throw 4 dice to reliably cast it. This eats up too many power dice.

[Warwhore]

If we win the role for table side, I suggest we take the side with the Ward Tower. This will give our DP 3+ ward against banishment and deny the Stank any kind of a ward save against our death snipes.

[zifnab0]

The Tzeentch Exalted Hero isn't a wizard, unfortunately.

My suggestion:

Level 1: 5

Daemon Prince: 0, 3, 4, 6

The 5th spell Fate of Bjuna is cast on a 13+ meaning that the lvl 1 would have to throw 4 dice to reliably cast it. This eats up too many power dice.

Yes, but otherwise we limit what we can target, and he will be an easy target.  And I want +4 to cast hexes.

Plus, I don't think fate is that great.

[Warwhore]

The Tzeentch Exalted Hero isn't a wizard, unfortunately.

My suggestion:

Level 1: 5

Daemon Prince: 0, 3, 4, 6

The 5th spell Fate of Bjuna is cast on a 13+ meaning that the lvl 1 would have to throw 4 dice to reliably cast it. This eats up too many power dice.

Yes, but otherwise we limit what we can target, and he will be an easy target.  And I want +4 to cast hexes.

Plus, I don't think fate is that great.

Just give the lvl the signature spell; it serves the same purpose as Fate of Bjuna and is easier to cast. I think Fate of Bjuna is good against this Empire list. We have three great targets for it: the Archlector, the archmage, and the STank. I'm kind of torn though on whether to take Doom and Darkness instead. This spell works really well with Hellcannon and the terror causing DP.

[Noght]

Do we really need -1 Str and Tough Hex?  Unless the GS got you nervous?

[rothgar13]

Nah, no need for Soulblight here - Nurgle Warriors rip T3 infantry apart just fine. You're going to win that combat - you want Doom & Darkness to make sure they run once you do beat 'em.

[Forumite]

I´m leaning towards these:
lvl 4 - 0 4 5 6
lvl 1 - 0 (or 2)

I´m unsure about the lvl 1. Is Caress of Laniph better than Spirit Leech? Our Chaos Sorcerer will be at equal or lower LD against all likely targets, so Caress might be stronger, especially against the Steam Tank.

[zifnab0]

Do we really need -1 Str and Tough Hex?  Unless the GS got you nervous?

We're right at the sweet spot where -1 S and T helps.  It takes him from 5+ to 6+ to wound (or 3+ to 4+ for the GS) and takes us from 3+ to 2+.

I think that spell is much better than another direct damage spell.

[TCWarroom]

I like 0-4-5-6
And 0 on the lvl one

I like double spirit leach a leader 9

[Warwhore]

Do we really need -1 Str and Tough Hex?  Unless the GS got you nervous?

Sure our warriors are the favorite in the GS combat, but hit them with Soul Blight and it becomes a certainty. I like absolutes. 

[TCWarroom]

I want to get the prince in with them and chew them up. Might have to hide behind the tower for a turn or two casting spells. Cannons are worse than strength 5 banishment. As soon as he is in combat he should get any would caused back with soulfeeder.

[TCWarroom]

I just realized the only cannon in the army is on the stank. That's a good thing.

[rothgar13]

Yeah, HHG's list is not exactly optimized to fight WoC. I think you have very good odds of both the Chimera and the Daemon Prince getting into close combat and ripping his guys apart.

[Forumite]

We want to match Greatswords against Warriors, and keep the Chimera and Deamon Prince out of sight of Steam Tank. Do we have any other deployment goals?

[zifnab0]

It's looking like he's got two places to drop the Greatswords - either flank.  He could put them in the middle behind his lines, but I don't think that's a good choice for him.  He's waiting to see where we commit.

I think overloading the left flank is a good idea.  Put our chariot on the front line with the Daemon Prince, Chimera, and Hero on Disc behind them.  Hit the west flank hard, move the Warhounds to block the gap between the Idol and snowdrift, and roll him up.  Use the east Warhounds to keep the ICK out of the fight.

The Warriors and Knights deploy in the middle, either to hold off his GS (if they deploy in the middle), support the west flank, or smack down the ICK.

The biggest initial risk is going to be the Outriders who can rip up our warriors and knights.  Target priority #1 should be those two units.  Knights are #2.

Death magic is single target, save that for the steam tank.

[Noght]

I suspect the GS will end up behind the Outriders and Archers.  STank west side of Idol.  He'll should vanguard the Outriders up in front of the Idol and Drift.

I concur with the Warriors and Knights in the middle, Warriors/Lvl 1 closest to Hellcannon.

[zifnab0]

I suspect the GS will end up behind the Outriders and Archers.  STank west side of Idol.  He'll should vanguard the Outriders up in front of the Idol and Drift.

You're right.  We have the advantage of knowing how HHG plays, and he's going to drop the GS behind a wall of archer chaff.

[Forumite]

I think it is time to drop the warriors beside the Hellcannon, or place the Chimera below the Tower. I´m not that worried about finding cover from the Steam Tank, if we need another hiding place for the DP then he can always hide behind the Hellcannon.

[TCWarroom]

sounds good, thank you all!

[rothgar13]

Do we know the formation that HHG has deployed the Nurgle Warriors in? My guess is 6 x 4 with a man missing from looking at the picture. Are we OK with that?