Topic: Do you think Empire should Have a Shock knight unit?

[MrDWhitey]

They are a very nice unit, Ironguts. But the 5+ armour save is a bit crap. That and WS3 means they'll hit a lot less. Except against undead, then Ironguts become really awesome.

[warhammerlord_soth]

Nope. Was afraid of being burnt alive and stuff. 

As McKnight will probably tell you, the Inquisition's dead. Of course I disagree. They're just homeless... 

[MrDWhitey]

Nope. Was afraid of being burnt alive and stuff. 

As McKnight will probably tell you, the Inquisition's dead. Of course I disagree. They're just homeless... 

Ah, but where shall I post the images? I have so many random armies of so many systems. Counts Tavern, or just use my currently dead Brush and Palette thread?

(btw Folken, I was kidding when I said yes  )

[warhammerlord_soth]

Everything not empire is counts' tavern....

[Dannyfave]

Nope. Was afraid of being burnt alive and stuff. 

Even if they were horribly bad I wouldn't burn, I love seeing other peoples paintjobs..

[MrDWhitey]

I meant for being a heretic 

Edit: and as that's the case, I'll send you a PM (you love PMing, I know) with some images of them in a few minutes.

[warhammerlord_soth]

Nope. Was afraid of being burnt alive and stuff. 

Even if they were horribly bad I wouldn't burn, I love seeing other peoples paintjobs..

Danny, this post shows you're still a newbie after all (no offense) 


We was talking proper burning, boy... Bring the marshmallows..

[Mathi Alfblut]

Someone needed a proper burning? 
This wandering Sigmarite priest is always around to supply rough and ready Sigmarite justice via hammer and burning. No need for fuzzywuzzy interogations and such...
So, who shall I put on the holy pyre?

[Toro_Blanco]

Knights having bigger rank bonuses is a bit silly, since they already get higher unit strength to represent their steed combined with them.

I don't think our knights need any tweaking at the moment; we've already got them as a core choice, relatively inexpensive, AND the option to bring magic banners into battle with them (I'm considering taking the Daemonslayer banner against horde opponents where leadership is wanting).  There's not much need to improve them, and taking a mounted WP makes for plenty of attacks.

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with empire overall, to be honest.  I think we're definately one of the most balanced armies out there.  I'd like to see a little tweaking on engineers to make them a seriously viable option, and maybe mortars as indirect fire.  Beyond that, not many complaints rules wise.

[Irisado]

Empire Knights are not the problem here, rather it's peoples' expectations of them.

They are not supposed to be Knights in the King Arthur and Brettonian sense of the word, they are solid, rather than spectacular, but if you use them in multiple units then they do work well in my experience.

I, therefore, see no need for any kind of 'shock' unit of Knights, they are powerful enough as they are in my view.

[warhammerlord_soth]

I just realised, we kind of have a "shock" unit already.






The engineer on a robohorse.






He *does* discharge lightning on impact, right ?

[MrDWhitey]

The engineer on a robohorse.

Fielding him would certainly be a shock to the enemy. 

[Irisado]

That's a terrible pun warhammerlord_soth  .

Of course it reminds me very much of the incident between James Bond, a villain, a bath filled with water and an electric fan in 'Goldfinger'.  To quote Sean Connery 'shocking' 

As for the Engineer constituting 'shock cavalry', he only does so in the sense at a player who wasn't aware of his stats would probably collapse in fits of laughter and hysterics on the floor on discovering how shockingly poor this model is, not only in terms of ability, but also in terms of plausibility.

[phillyt]

You know, he actually isn't that bad with a repaeter pistol.  He can do some decent damage in the right unit of fast cavalry or knights.

Or just stick him in a cannon unit.  He comes blowing out to charge artillary hunters and laughs!

Phil