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Treachery and Greed
The third warhammer-empire online campaign
"Mercenaries are disunited, thirsty for power, undisciplined, and disloyal; they are brave among their friends and cowards before the enemy; they have no fear of god, they do not keep faith with their fellow men; they avoid defeat just so long as they avoid battle; in peacetime you are despoiled by them, and in wartime by the enemy."
The year is 2203, and the various warring states that make up Sigmar's Glorious Empire have settled into an exhausted peace. But thousands of mercenaries still fill the land, and everywhere there is pillage and death.
With the collapse of the Marienburg Alliance, the Tilean states have again turned upon each other. Proud Remas, the remnant of an ancient empire, faces the expanding naval power of Miragliano. In Sartosa, the pirate prince gathers his war fleet. These three greater powers dominate their neighbors and seek each other's destruction.
All three hire vast armies of mercenaries, little realising the horrors they will unleash on their own people. And all the while, greenskins raise their ragged banners and build ramshackle ships.
- Fight for profit and glory in Tilea and the Border Princes! Support Remas, Miragliano or Sartosa, or join with the raiding forces of the Badlands.
- Strike a balance between personal greed and the needs of your comrades. Each player will obtain personal gold through conquest, but will depend upon the support of their fellow faction members to succeed. Bribe and betray your rivals. Assassinate princes, extort kings, and carve out your own realms. Gain titles and honors, for as long as you are strong enough to defend them!
- Expect all the features of the Crisis in Marienburg campaign to return, including a detailed map, extensive background, and special campaign army lists.
- If you can't play games of Warhammer, you can still participate by submitting 'fluff reports'- short stories that can be as valuable as victories on the gaming table.
The campaign begins in summer 2010. More information will be on the way soon.
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Weeee.... what fun :)
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Summer? Damnit.
Thats lame. I want it now! Start it tomorrow, move Santa's Birthday or whatever the hell tomorrow is about and get working!
EDIT: Oh and awesome! Can't wait!
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Nice idea! Will we have new armylists for each faction just as we had for the old Crisis in M. campaign? I would personally like a Sartosa armylist, but I will wait to see what you guys come up with.
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Hmmmm.....this could be an excuse to theme my new Empire project...
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I know mine will be built with a mercenary future in mind...
Of course, I probably won't have more than 500-750 points by the time this starts, but...
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You guys are awesome.
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Well, if you situate a campaign in the Tilean region, you should eventually expect a few Skaven to pop up. *grins*... :icon_mrgreen: I've copied the first post and made a topic on this campaign at UE.net.
Greetz
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Well there won't be an individual faction for skaven players to join, their attendance in A4 taught us there aren't enough!
Mogsam
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How long ago was that? They did just get a new book so there ought to be a larger number than usual out there.
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A4 started perhaps the same week as the Skaven book came out?
Seems the big campaign attenders are W-E, DWP and Roundtable.
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A4 started perhaps the same week as the Skaven book came out?
That's not very long.
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Is this only for empire armies to participate? Because I'm kinda building a bret army at the moment and want to give it a spin :happy:
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It is not Empire specific, there will be campaign army lists as well which would even let you combine Brets and Empire.
Mogsam
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On thing in examining skaven players is that they are running their own campaign right now.... As a result I would estimate that more players would come it their campaign wasn't running... The collapse of the Dark Pact was more a result of lack of CD not showing up rather then skaven players not showing up...
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On thing in examining skaven players is that they are running their own campaign right now.... As a result I would estimate that more players would come it their campaign wasn't running... The collapse of the Dark Pact was more a result of lack of CD not showing up rather then skaven players not showing up...
You do realise that this will be a summer campaign? So correct me if I'm wrong, but if we take a look at the CiM campaign, that would give them 5-6 months to finish their campaign.
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Indeed, they should be home and have dried their fur well in time for summer.
I better get starting on my Ulrician Independent company. Sponsored by the Church of Ulric but when not needed back home they sell their services abroad. The Red wolves of Ulric.
It will be commaned by an ancestor of Mathias Kane.
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Well it's all beside the point since they aren't getting their own faction! So neh neh neh neh neh! :happy:
Mogsam
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On thing in examining skaven players is that they are running their own campaign right now.... As a result I would estimate that more players would come it their campaign wasn't running... The collapse of the Dark Pact was more a result of lack of CD not showing up rather then skaven players not showing up...
You do realise that this will be a summer campaign? So correct me if I'm wrong, but if we take a look at the CiM campaign, that would give them 5-6 months to finish their campaign.
The UE campaigns are slower paced and can last a long, long time. It's entirely possible that they won't be done by summer.
Looks good guys, I'll be there with Da Ghostz, Viera too.
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Well there won't be an individual faction for skaven players to join, their attendance in A4 taught us there aren't enough!
Or, perhaps, you failed to find us... :icon_mrgreen: (Oh, I couldn't resist that one).
No, I will admit that from out of the UnderEmpire.net community, we showed up with few members, compared to earlier campaigns. In the year(s) after the Storm of Chaos, we had quite a good 'campaign promotion team' that managed to rally quite a few people for a single cause in a campaign. (An example of this would be the Intersite campaign, which had seen a lot less Skaven members, weren't it for a few that really brought a large gathering with them). Then again, we also have a few members that simply can't resist not signing up for an online campaign.
If Skaven aren't a 'playable race' in the campaign, then the debate is quickly ended. However, I played as (the only) Skaven in the Ghost Fang Waaagh! during the Animosity 4 campaign, due to the background of my character in that campaign, which is a Skaven Pi-Rat that has a mixed crew of Skaven and Goblins. (Based on the fact that I play quite a bit with my Underworld team in the Blood Bowl league I am a member of)... When signing up for the GFW, I had mentioned this to the GMs and they decided to allow me in the GFW. Otherwise, I would have ended up with the Dark Pact and evil or not, you don't sign my clan(s) up in a faction with a beard-thing. ;)
Still, this is all something for the campaign team to ponder on.
Greetz
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So summer for you guys is july. . . hmmm, I think that this is a perfect time to coincide with my next Empire army project, The Order of Tueton knights, I have theme and almost all the models, I just need to paint them now. . . :icon_twisted:
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(Posted my comments in the sticky thread under Elector Counts area.)
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Horray!!!!! Dogs of War, your hour has come! :happy: :happy: :happy:
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Aye, time to sell some swordservice to them wealthy Tileans. :icon_mrgreen:
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Well now, this looks like it should be alot of fun! Time to listen to Draig and finally get an orc army finished and ready to play with..
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I will join the faction that lets me field cheap pike and shotte units.
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Time to come up with some new ideas for yet another tribe of Ogres.
Now... do I want a very Mercenary focussed tribe that sells it's services, or someone willing to join in on an Orc Waaaaaagh!?
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You know you want to waaaaagh..... green iz best.
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Lookin' forward to it. Be nice to play the basterdly Korgan Bloodaxe again after all the goody-twoshoesness I did in A4 :D
- S.S.
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You know the greenskins will be a force. Oh yes, another Mugruk's grog hut, perhaps a relative of Snivels, the massed force of fun-loving, umie crushin, stunty smashin gits will be rampaging the countryside near you. We fight for teef, grog and for the love of watching it all burn....
Ah, dat iz da smell uv vick-tor-y!
WAAAGH!
Goomb
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This sounds like it's gonna be sweet! I'm most likely going to be playing with pirates, but who knows for sure! Maybe I'll consider bringing my Kislevities down for some plunder and riches!
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An expeditionary force from Nuln just might make an attendance to this tiff on the southron coast. Step right up and get your free hot lead and bleeding lessons.
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Sounds very cool. I don't think I could keep my pirates out of it if I tried.
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If you ask nicely, I'll post this on Asrai.org and see if we can rustle up a few members there :icon_wink:. We always manage to get a few people involved (and we even got our own mini-faction in CiM and A3 :icon_cool: )
In the meantime I better get deciding who I'm going to support :unsure:
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Are they Wood Elves? Hmmm, bumpkin wingnuts...do we really want em :ph34r:
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Are they Wood Elves? Hmmm, bumpkin wingnuts...do we really want em :ph34r:
haha wood elves aren't welcome but the Orcs are more then welcome to show up and run a faction of the rails.... :evil:
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I think the Templar order of Tueton knights has a chapter house somewhere near Estalia, looks like I can field my new Empire army :happy:
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My Miragliano force is now well under way. :-)
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The Wood elves WILL come in numbers, Uryen, and rude comments will only make us come in greater numbers to extract vengeance. :ph34r:
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The Wood elves WILL come in numbers, Uryen, and rude comments will only make us come in greater numbers to extract vengeance. :ph34r:
it'll be like some sort of hippy motorway bypass protest with soap dodging wingnuts tying themselves to their treekin.
slash 'n' burn I say, the only thing the wood is good for is charcoal for our furnaces.
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The Wood elves WILL come in numbers, Uryen, and rude comments will only make us come in greater numbers to extract vengeance. :ph34r:
The wood elves are easily startled, but they'll come back and in greater numbers.
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Good, those ogres get hungry too quickly, need plenty of fodder for them over winter.
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slash 'n' burn I say, the only thing the wood is good for is charcoal for our furnaces.
And as places for my plague censer bearers to lurk in. :-D
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The Wood elves WILL come in numbers, Uryen, and rude comments will only make us come in greater numbers to extract vengeance. :ph34r:
The wood elves are easily startled, but they'll come back and in greater numbers.
Surprised Obi didn't jump on this one :-)
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Buh?
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Obi - It's because your famous namesake said almost these exact words in a certain celluloid presentation.
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Oooh, I know this one.
....Star Trek?
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No ... I think it was Spacehunter, Adventures Beyond the Forbidden Zone, in 3D with a young Molly Ringwald.
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I am not sure what the biggest selling point is there, 3D or Molly Ringwald...now if it was Mia Sarah it would be no contest.
Does it have Tim Curry in too?
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Maybe the New model S.H.I.T will appear in the summer...
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Maybe the New model S.H.I.T will appear in the summer...
To quote Obi ... Buh?
EDIT: Cancel that 'Buh?' I've now found the answer. S.H.I.T. = your new Stirland army (notice I didn't wrtie it the other way around, i.e. "Your new Stirland army is S.H.I.T."? I thought it was important to get that the right way around.) Yeah, get the Stirlanders down there - they don't get to see that much of the world so it will be a nice trip for them!
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Does it have Tim Curry in too?
He's doing Molly Ringwalds voice.
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Maybe the New model S.H.I.T will appear in the summer...
I don't get it. Something to do with the inquisition no doubt.
Mogsam
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Maybe the New model S.H.I.T will appear in the summer...
I don't get it. Something to do with the inquisition no doubt.
Mogsam
You better pay those 2 bucks, panda. You're really starting to annoy me with this crusade.
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Will BloodBowl games be accepted? Both RL and FUMBBL (and Cyanide)?
In addition to what have been mentioned previously, many Skaven wish to participate as such, af if that is not possible (as in Ultuan in Flames) they stay away.
Personally I joined UiF as a Ratogre blessed by Slaanesh. Quite challenging setup, but that just me.
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If I had any idea of what you mean by FUMBBL and Cyanide then I'd answer. I can't see why you can't play blood bowl and report it.
We have certainly and catagorically not banned Skaven players. What I said was the Skaven are not getting their own faction. Just like the Tomb Kings, Elves, Vampires, Daemons etc are not getting their own faction. There's no restriction on what race you play.
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As I was jus' telling Wiss... in A4, we had a Tomb King fighting alongside the Ogre's Great Migration which was fighting under the banner of the Celestial Dragon... who woulda thunkit?
Anything is possible with fwuff!
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fumbbl (.com) is a website for blood bowl games. We can play blood bowl over the internets and they get the results, rosters etc. list of my latest matches, click the green dots to see detailed reports of the games (http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=matches&coach=110720). Our current campaign at the UnderEmpire (http://underempire.net/index.php?showtopic=31940) treats fumbbl games just like a warhammer game in terms of mechanics.
Cyanide is a company that recently made Blood Bowl games on PC and some platforms. In short, much like fumbbl.
I also threw around the idea of a small skaven faction that would operate differently, partly to account the lower number of skaven players.
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Ah ha! At last something on my homeland!
Tilea, the land of opportunity! I wonder how do you guys will proceed in the mechanics of maitaining one's resources and how one of our adventurers would manage to 'carve out' their own Principality.
Joined the forum only to see this going on! With my Dogs of War, of course!
For Miragliano! :happy:
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I just spent a couple hours reading through the Crisis in Marienburg board and...
Wow!
I'd already thought this campaign sounded pretty cool, but now that I've seen how you guys roll, I'm quite excited indeed. That looks like so much fun!
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I loved the last campaign, as soon as this one starts you can count me in.
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HOLA SOY NUEVO DIGANM COMO JUGAR :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :smile2: :unsure: :mellow: :Ohmy: :icon_question: :icon_question: :icon_question: :icon_razz: ::heretic::
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Count me in.
-The General
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I wonder if it means anything when you find yourself thinking about the characters you're going to RP in the summer campaign whilst trying to go to sleep...? :icon_neutral:
- Z
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I wonder if it means anything when you find yourself thinking about the characters you're going to RP in the summer campaign whilst trying to go to sleep...? :icon_neutral:
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At least you aren't thinking about starting up a campaign consulting firm like myself...
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I wonder if it means anything when you find yourself thinking about the characters you're going to RP in the summer campaign whilst trying to go to sleep...? :icon_neutral:
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At least you aren't thinking about starting up a campaign consulting firm like myself...
LOL f! :laugh:
The campaign has given me a target for finishing my first 1k, so I don't think you're alone Zandur. Viera and I have been working up joint fluff background and concept for the campaign too, so you're not the only obsessive!
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After the ishkabibble that was the WiC, I'd hire you in a heartbeat, fauthsie:icon_exclaim:
Well, I guess that's a relief then... my vow is to finish purchasing and building the last of my 2000 Pt list by launch time. Painting 100 Dwarves and 3 Ogres by then... that's a little steep :P
- Z
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Posting this on Dogs of War Online as well.
Sounds Cool.
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It's already on there.
But hey, faithful site owner, some extra publicity never hurts !
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Excellent news!! An incentive to FINALLY finish my Empire army!! W.O.O.T!!
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It's already on there.
But hey, faithful site owner, some extra publicity never hurts !
Indeed! I seem to recall a sizable turnout for the Crisis in Marienburg, if I recall correctly. :happy:
-The General
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I LOVED the Crisis in Marienburg (I still go to the old site to raid fluff for my WFRP games) and will definately be there. This might be the incentive I need to get Death Castle finished too...
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Well then, the Matriarch of Manann has ordered a new crusade against Sartosa, my Marienburgers are gearing up for war (complete with their pilfered steam tank)
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Rumors abound of a new force rising in the badlands. A force of savage greenskins hell bent on pillaging the lands of Tilea. Led by an old foe long thought vanquished, a primal force of rage and hatred beyond even the most devout Warriors of Khorne stirs to the north. None shall stand before this onslaught of murderous beasts. Waaaaaaaaaagh Snotbane is coming, and you have been warned......
Da Kaptain
Looks like I will be able to play after all ladz! I wasnt sure if I would be able to set aside the time needed but now things have shifted and its all good. Greenskins beware, the Despot of Marienburg is coming for you!
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With Da Kaptain on board, all need to shudder in their boots, not just the greenskins.
Almost enough for me to want to join the greenskins. Almost. :icon_wink:
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No worries there GP,
Da Despot of Marienburg is not likely going to be joining the Raiders, treachery & greed not withstanding. The rage and the hatred in Waaaaaagh Snotbane is directed at the greenskins, and the greenskins alone.....
Da Kaptain
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:icon_lol:
No more needs be said.
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No worries there GP,
Da Despot of Marienburg is not likely going to be joining the Raiders, treachery & greed not withstanding. The rage and the hatred in Waaaaaagh Snotbane is directed at the greenskins, and the greenskins alone.....
Da Kaptain
Wot? Da Greens? Kaptain ye ben at da rum haven't ye? If ye be wishin' a scrap wit da Greens why ship ta Tiliea?
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Wot? Da Greens? Kaptain ye ben at da rum haven't ye? If ye be wishin' a scrap wit da Greens why ship ta Tiliea?
Tilea be where the greenskins are a massin, and datz where Waaaaaaagh! Snotbane be headin!
Da Despot of Marienburg
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Has it been announced when the actual campaign will start? I've been digging through old posts but haven't seen it...
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Nope, no announcement yet.
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Nope, no announcement yet.
Bunch of slackers :P
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Just so I don't miss it!
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Here's a hint: when we had CiM the last playtesting was done at the Eurobash. :engel:
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Hi. I'm new here, but I wanted to know if this campaign had kicked off yet? I looked over the PDF lists and they are pretty fething awesome. :::cheers:::
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Nope, not yet.
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It won't be long now. There's a eurobash to organise first and some remaining details. Don't worry, we will start to make announcements relatively soon.
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i don't quite understand the idea behind the army lists that have been posted.
can i play as ogres or not? i thought i would have been able to at first but when i saw that PDF i realized that the guys who made it were trying to create an entirely new army...
Note: in 8th ed ogres are classed as a "neutral" race, so i think it should be possible for me to join. what are your opinions guys?
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Hi,
You can play as any army you like. The special campaign lists are optional.
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You can play in the campaign with ANY army, even Chaos Cultists of Cathay or such like, but using the campaign lists gives you a bonus.
The army you use is rather irrelevant for its effect in the actual campaign though it is generally appreciated, although unnecesary, if it fits the fluff
Damn, Rufus beat me to it.
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I am quite psyched for this, already wrote up an 3k army list for the Mercs. The Conclave of Coin will dominate all comers! :icon_twisted:
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Hi,
You can play as any army you like. The special campaign lists are optional.
Great! :icon_biggrin:
You can play in the campaign with ANY army, even Chaos Cultists of Cathay or such like, but using the campaign lists gives you a bonus.
The army you use is rather irrelevant for its effect in the actual campaign though it is generally appreciated, although unnecesary, if it fits the fluff
Damn, Rufus beat me to it.
pity i wont get the bonus :icon_frown:
Chaos Cultists of Cathay lol :icon_lol: :eusa_clap:
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Fought against Chaos Cultists of Cathay in A4 :ph34r:
They make an awful sticky mess in your beard...
- Z
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Actually, worship of Tzeentch is legal in Cathay (I believe it even was the national religion), albeit less extreme than in Norsca. So by saying "chaos cultists of cathay", you're basically talking about most of the population :P.
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Sounds about right. Stubborn buggers, but da orcs chopped em up good! Hur!
Pity about old Nibbles though. Stunties will pay!
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Actually, worship of Tzeentch is legal in Cathay (I believe it even was the national religion), albeit less extreme than in Norsca. So by saying "chaos cultists of cathay", you're basically talking about most of the population :P.
Hi Demonslayer! Long time.
I am interested in your source for this though...
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Google :P.
Granted, there isn't a lot of "official" info on Cathay, but wikipedia, hammerpedia and a lot of fan-based stuff all indicate that the worship of Tzeentch is quite popular over there.
(though, again, NOT as extreme as in Norsca)
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It's a weak offshot of Tzzentch. Not the super mutant type. It's something to do with that circle gods idea isn't it? Where all gods are part of the four chaos gods but are weaker or mixed versions.
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Probably more to do with the fact that no one actually thought it through when it first got mentioned...
Otherwise the irony of "The Changer of Ways" ruling over a vast, stagnant, beurocratic empire might have been mentioned previously...either that or someone got the wrong information...
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Wasn't there a character in 'Beast in Velvet' who claimed to be the Cathayan ambassador, but was actually an agent of Tzeentch? Maybe that's caused some confusion.
I think I have the Liber Chaotica for Tzeencth somewhere. Maybe it says something about Cathay in that.
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I did some more searching, and apparently there was mention of it in the fifth edition WFRP book.
Maybe it's just one of those popular false rumours, but if it is, it's pretty darn popular. And according to A4, the cult of Tzeentch was widespread throughout Cathay, so that makes it official as far as I'm concerned :P.
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I did some more searching, and apparently there was mention of it in the fifth edition WFRP book.
Uh, aren't they only up to a 3rd edition?
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I meant fifth edition WHFB Chaos armybook... My bad, no idea how I messed that up :P.
(on the other hand, I have been cooped up in a small 37 degrees celsius room with poor ventilation for the past three days, so yeah, that might explain it :P).
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Oh, right.
That sounds unpleasant! Get someone to pay the ransom to have you released.
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What's that, rufus, do I hear you volunteering for the job :P?
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There are bits and pieces about Cathay being under the sway of Tzeetch, but then again, if you believe the fluff the Empire is too...them and Skaven.
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What's that, rufus, do I hear you volunteering for the job :P?
Sorry, but no.
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Oh, I'm really looking forward to this Campaign!
Might even get my lazy bones to paint my DoW!
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Oh, I'm really looking forward to this Campaign!
Might even get my lazy bones to paint my DoW!
Same here. I might get off my arse and paint some of the Empire I have lying around. I'm certainly going to need them to count them as Mercenary Company.
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it's summer now so it should be starting soon right?
There are bits and pieces about Cathay being under the sway of Tzeetch, but then again, if you believe the fluff the Empire is too...them and Skaven.
from what i've seen on their site i doubt they'd deviate to tzench, they are really fanatical about the horned rat. the only one of the chaos gods i've even heard mentioned was slaanesh, but that was in a bit of fluff so i don't think it counts.
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Regards to the Tzeentch in Cathy discussion....
-1200 The Cult of Chi’an Chi (known to the mortals of the Old World as Tzeentch) gains favour amongst the aristocracy of Beichai in Cathay. (WA: WOC 7th eds)
There is also a mention in one of the WH novels of a Cathay ambassador to the empire who is a Tzeentch worshiper. More or less this was used as the basis for the Tzeentch religion that was in A4.
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There is also a mention in one of the WH novels of a Cathay ambassador to the empire who is a Tzeentch worshiper.
If that's the character from 'Beasts in Velvet,' he wasn't the real ambassador. He'd murdered and replaced him.
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does anyone know when the campaign will start.
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I would imagine within the next month at least. I think they wanted to start sooner but ran into some roadbumps.
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Being a 'red' does give me some superior spying abilities, and I can confirm the team is close ............
They are just refining the levels of treachery and the unscrupulousness of the greed - the possibilities of mayhem and backstabbing should reach new heights ........ :engel:
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new heights? it can't be much higher than the skaven campaign... if it is any worse you'll be having players with 10+ accounts and so much spying that 5 seconds after an ultra-top-secret plan is posted the entire site will know about it...
so i doubt it'll be more treacherous than the under dark
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Maybe not, but at least people will be able to understand it. :wink: And note that I speak as a player at this point as I'm no longer on the campaign team.
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Maybe not, but at least people will be able to understand it. :wink: And note that I speak as a player at this point as I'm no longer on the campaign team.
Then why does you title say campaign team..... there's treachery afoot... I think wiss is lying threw is wired jaw :P
(how is the mouth feeling??)
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It's coming along slowly but I feel better for the most part, thanks.
As to the other part, it's more of an honorary title at the moment.
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yeah well i'll admit that it's a bit confusing to start with but it's not that bad once you get started, whats the worst that could happen? ::heretic::
:::cheers::: <-- Dr Pepper
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Hi all,
Sorry if I'm posting in the area but I wanted to find out how this campaign works as I'm new to Warhammer Empire and if it's too late to join. Most importantly of all I wanted to find out if there are any people from Canberra, Australia playing who are looking for a game as I'm worried I may be the only person playing it in my city, if I am is there any way to get round it and still take part in the campaign.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Michael :biggriin:
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to late to join? :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: we haven't even started...
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Marshall, as Flux says, it's not too late to join, it has yet to start :wink:
As for contributing, as stated several times, there is many ways to contribute. One way is to write fluff, and if that's not to your liking, there is possible to play warhammer over the internet, either using lorenz whfb, or either Ogre stronghold: http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=14438.0 (http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=14438.0), or at asrai.org: http://asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12201 (http://asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12201). Apart from that, I'm sure there will be som contest you can win :wink:
Cheers,
Dunrik
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For example, if CiM was any indicator, I contribute by drunkenly insulting friend and foe alike! :icon_rolleyes:
- Z
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Marshall, as Flux says, it's not too late to join, it has yet to start :wink:
As for contributing, as stated several times, there is many ways to contribute. One way is to write fluff, and if that's not to your liking, there is possible to play warhammer over the internet, either using lorenz whfb, or either Ogre stronghold: http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=14438.0 (http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=14438.0), or at asrai.org: http://asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12201 (http://asrai.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12201). Apart from that, I'm sure there will be som contest you can win :wink:
Cheers,
Dunrik
Assuming you meant nobody is playing TnG in your city, rather than nobody is playing warhammer at all, you could just play games against the people you normally play against, and submit those games. Unless the GMs changed this since the last campaign (I believe I read somewhere that you could still play against people who didn't participate in the campaign themselves, but Dunrik makes me doubt my memory :P).
It'll probably be a bit harder to use the campaign army lists, since your friends might not be okay with you using them (fortunately mine don't have a problem with what I want to play, and they usually find the lists interesting enough to try them out themselves).
If, however, the rules were changed without me knowing (which, incidentally, isn't all that rare, and usually my fault :P), then it looks like we're both stuck on typing duty for the summer :P (or, as Dunrik suggests, online games).
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No, your memory is solid as ever DS, it might however just have been me who misunderstood him (or you me :-P). If he means he is the only warhammer player (which I assumed, might be totally wrong). If there are plenty of warhammer players, there is no problem, as any opponent works (well, he should be playing warhammer in one way or another :-P). No need to use the campaign list either, but you will get a bonus from it if I got the GMs right.
Cheers,
Dunrik
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No, your memory is solid as ever DS
Yay for not suffering from Alzheimer at age 25! (26 next saturday :P)
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I wouldn't worry about the campaign list bonus. It isn't as substantial as last time. It was a tad abusable.
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So, Mogsie......any hint when this is going to start? Any elaboration on Midaski's confirmation that the team "is close"?
P.S Like the helmet ;)
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Any chance we could get some information re: the factions - homelands and a bit of background, just so some of us can make a proper start on our own fluff? I suppose we could start it anyway, and then modify it accordingly when the factions are revealed, but I thought I'd ask 'cos it would keep up interest levels (perhaps) and make us feel like we are moving closer.
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The dedicated forum containing this information should go live pretty soon.
Damn Gremlins... :ph34r:
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Excellent news.
NB: I have a good idea what such gremlins are like, I suffer similar such IT related nonsense on a regular basis. It's a fact of (modern) life. Not that I could fix the simplest one, I just have a good idea of the frustration you feel
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Any chance we could get some information re: the factions - homelands and a bit of background, just so some of us can make a proper start on our own fluff? I suppose we could start it anyway, and then modify it accordingly when the factions are revealed, but I thought I'd ask 'cos it would keep up interest levels (perhaps) and make us feel like we are moving closer.
My spies report that there isn't too much in the way of set fluff. Each general will decide who he is - an Imperial Faction, or a Merc Lord for example.
The rest is just random conspiracies, mayhem and treachery - gold will be the motivation, and each faction will drive it's own tactics and fluff, so your own personal backstory is a start, and then it will need to be 'welded' or 'melded' to your fellow faction members.
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For example, if CiM was any indicator, I contribute by drunkenly insulting friend and foe alike! :icon_rolleyes:
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Well, I certainly enjoyed that part! :biggriin:
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Several players have asked for the previous campaigns fluff to be posted so they can begin to write their new information. Frankly theres too much to go through for the turn fluff to be posted but here is the end fluff. The T&G timeline roughly covers this detail but it is in more depth here. Enjoy.
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H,
I have done my utmost to locate contemporary histories of the 2201 Marienburg war, but it seems that they simply do not exist. Many of the city's records from that period were destroyed by the sinking of the Canal District archive some years ago. The best I could find was this work of rather dubious scholarship, published only six years ago. I suggest that you contact the archivists in Talabheim, since they have access to many works that are not to be found elsewhere - and in recent years, they have been much less careful who they allow to read them.
In the meantime though, I hope this will be of some use. I have annotated the text wherever I have detected a serious factual error, or have some other pertinent information.
Your friend,
S.
The ending of the Marienburg War of 2201, and what came after transcribed from the original Low Elvish by Jacobus van der Tricht with the assistance and support of certain underscriveners.
published by the Steger Press of Marienburg, 2517
-Look to the Lord Sigmar in all things, for from Him all things issue-
The final attack of the greenskin horde came at the former Fort Solace, now renamed 'Barak Gazan,' the Gateway to the Wasted Lands, by its dwarfish garrison [This translation of the dwarfish is rather loose. - S]. Once before, the bestial fiends had assailed that place: then, they came in overwhelming numbers against an unprepared and undermanned fortress. If their commanders had understood the scale of the opposition, would they have turned back? It scarcely seems likely. Who can know the minds of monsters? [pointless observations of this sort are relatively common in Tricht's writing, unfortunately.]
The dwarfs had worked with a fervour that assuredly came from the Lord Sigmar himself [it would be interesting to see the reaction of any dwarf that Tricht expressed this theory to!], rebuilding and amplifying the fortifications. These walls they filled with machineries of death, and with line upon line of the stoutest of their soldiers. When the greenskins brought their ships close to the monstrous cliffs the fortress stood upon, they found themselves under fire too heavy to be bourn. Thus they drove their ships onto the beaches, many dashing their craft to splinters in their eagerness. Those that made it to the land rushed to the fortress, but found the way scattered with spike-filled trenches and other such encumbrances. Still the greenskins came on, and still the dwarfs shot death upon them. For two days and nights the battle continued, but at the last the dwarfs were victorious. Those of the green horde that were not slain were scattered and driven away. Some escaped to their ships and thence to the sea; others into the swamps and the wastelands, there to plague travellers thereafter.
[I suspect the number of greenskins remaining in the area after this defeat may have been much larger than Tricht suggests. Certainly, Fort Solace was not to remain in dwarf hands forever. The date of its loss is not known, but the fortress had been ruined for decades by the time of its reconstruction some seventy years ago. There are no records of the identity of Solace's destroyers - or at least no records in human hands - but the possibility that the greenskins were ultimately successful is a compelling one.]
In the Manannspoort Sea, the League of Free Traders clashed once again with the full force of the Marienburg Alliance. The Alliance, once the greatest naval power in the Old World, was much reduced in stature. Their elvish allies gone and their greatest sea captains dead or otherwise incapacitated, they could not prevail against the ugly vastness of the League fleet. For though the iron ships of the dwarfs wallowed in the water and coughed their cannon-balls with but a little strength, and though the thin ships of the Nordlanders and the Kislevites were crewed by villains and fools, the noble galleons of Marienburg were smashed or driven back [Tricht goes too far here in exposing his prejudices for any decent historian]. Skulking behind the sea gates of Marienburg, they left the guns of Rjiker’s Isle to guard the city. Yet others of the Alliance fleet went north instead, disengaging from the battle to flee for warmer lands.
The League had proven victorious at sea: though they could not hold the Manannspoort without a safe harbour, they had broken Marienburg’s grip on the Sea of Claws. The Dwarf Admiral Nagnoli set sail for Barak Varr, leaving a small portion of his fleet to return to Hargendorf - where they would remain until a harbour had been constructed closer to Barak Gazan [despite considerable effort and expenditure, the dwarfs were not able to create a viable harbour on the stormy coastline near the fortress, and thus were obliged to continue to make use of the meagre facilities at Hargendorf]. Elsewhere also they had been successful. Nordland now extended all the way to the gates of Marienburg, and the Middenheim Road was theirs until somewhat beyond Bokel. Still, much of this land was empty, and most of the settlements were devastated: Aarnau had been utterly destroyed, and Hollum, Salfen and Dienste were all but ruined.
[Aarnau was not refounded until sometime after the ascension of Magnus the Pious. Hollum was resettled by 2254, and Salfen by 2205. Dienste was never to be inhabited again.]
For the dwarfs of Barak Varr, there was no more purpose to the League of Free Traders. Before leaving, Nagnoli sent a message to the Meisterrat. The dwarf alliance with the humans was dissolved, and the former Fort Solace would remain dwarf territory in perpetuity. Furthermore, the message included a bill for dwarfish aid during the war - a vast sum that was to be paid over the next five years.
Even as they debated the dwarf issue, the Meisterrat’s days were numbered. The Otillian Emperor, Marius V, had Nordland firmly in his pocket. His marriage to the last surviving member of the Nordland Electoral family gave legitimacy to his rule, but in purely practical terms his armies were everywhere. Otillian troops outnumbered Nordlander, and before long Otillian officers replaced the civilian rulers in every town and city. Nordland was to become a part of the Otillian Empire in every sense except the geographical. The Meisterrat was disbanded, and the League of Free Traders was no more.
[This rather melodramatic statement glosses over the continuing ties that held the former League members together. The dwarf's bill was negotiated downward when it became clear that they would still need to make use of Nordland's harbours. This lead to increased dwarf settlement in Nordland. Over time, Nordland grew in wealth and influence until it was able to re-negotiate its position in the Otillian Empire - just as Ostermark had done before it. By 2300, Nordland's ruling family had married into the Imperial line of Marienburg. Though the last Emperor of Marienburg died in the great incursion of the ruinous powers, leading to the formalisation of Marienburg's ruling council through the wisdom of Magnus the Pious, Nordland claims rulership of Marienburg to this day. Their possession of the Westerland Runefang, obtained in an unknown but probably criminal manner, provides a shadow of legitimacy to their claim.]
Among those of Marienburg's elite who fled the city during the battle of the Manannspoort Sea was the Emperor Philip III himself. Weak and always distrusted, the Emperor ultimately proved a coward as well [I suspect that you would agree with this dismal assessment of the Emperor's character, though he is elsewhere referred to as a brave and resourceful leader]. As he set sail from Rijker's Isle, he cast the Westerland Runefang into the Reik, spitefully declaring that Marienburg would have no Emperor if it would not have him. But Philip was soon to face Sigmar's justice for his blasphemous act: three days into the voyage, a yard-arm snapped loose and struck the Emperor on the head. He died immediately, and his body was cast into the sea. As for the Runefang, it was lost for many years. Eventually, a great whale beached itself upon the salt flats north of the Greenwater Gate and died there: when its body was cut open, the sword was miraculously found within.
[Tricht has lapsed into simple folk-tale in the last section. While it is true that Philip III left the city after the sea battle in the Manannspoort, he arrived safely in Averland where he remained until his death from old age in 2242. Neither did he cast the Runefang away: on the contrary, he is recorded as using it in several battles against greenskin invaders in the Blackfire Pass.]
While the remaining members of the Marienburg Assembly - now reduced to a handful of squabbling merchants and generals - sat uselessly in their stronghold on Rijker's Isle, the rest of the city was racked by bitter street-fighting. The eastern side was ablaze almost everywhere - only in the sealed streets of the deserted Elf Ward was there any peace. The citizens of Marienburg themselves teamed up to drive out the invaders - fighting as guilds, or neighbours, or even tavern-mates. Alongside them were the remainder of the Alliance's soldiers and mercenaries, and supporting them from the Reik was the depleted but still-potent fleet.
[Tricht‘s text ends at this point, the remainder being written by his students. Tricht was an infamous alchoholic, and seldom finished anything he started]
Yet the enemy - the forces of the Middenland Emperor - were too numerous. The soldiers of Middenland were backed by huge numbers of Hochlanders and Ostlanders, and even by the savage elves of the forests. The North and East Wards remained in Middenland's grip, unassailable while the Altdorf Gate was theirs also. Soon, even the Palace Ward was lost to the invaders. On entering the Imperial Palace, stepping over the bodies of its determined defenders, the commander of the Middenland army recited the words of the old poem:
'the houses of the gods stand empty,
the wolves feast on the bodies of the mighty'
[I suspect this verse has been placed in the mouth of the unnamed commander by a writer with a keen sense of the dramatic. The actual utterance is likely to have been much less decorous.]
As they retreated from the Palace Ward, the Alliance forces destroyed the Hightower Bridge, and with it the only means of crossing to the western side of the city. With the Rijkspoort and the Reik itself firmly in Marienburg's hands, and two thirds of the eastern walls theirs likewise, Middenland and Marienburg had reached an impasse.
Events in Titus-Artur’s own court soon changed the balance of power. A small force of Sigmarite troops crossed the Reik by night and set fire to the docks in Carroburg. The fire quickly took hold, and began to spread through the over-crowded poor quarters of the city. As the city descended into panic, Lucius Wolfram saw an opportunity. Leading his knights into the Summer Palace, he clashed with the Emperor’s Norse Guards in a protracted struggle that lasted for many hours. In the end, the Norse Guards had been slain to a man, and Titus-Artur himself had vanished. But Wolfram had also been killed.
News of the Emperor’s probable death spread rapidly, shaking the very foundations of the Empire. At once, the members of Middenland’s electoral assembly began to consolidate their personal power, drawing their retinues away from Marienburg in the hopes of making a bid for the throne.
For Hochland and Ostland, the power vacuum gave them the opportunity to break free of the Empire of Middenland. Individually weak, they banded together along with several towns that had previously been part of Middenland and Nordland to form what became known as the Northern League. They even arranged a deal with the savage elves, committing to the expansion and defence of elven territory within the great forests in return for the backing of the elf forces still fighting in Marienburg.
And it was Marienburg that was the key to the Northern League’s existence. Their forces held the Northern and Eastern Wards, the Guildorveld half of the Palace Ward, and crucially, the Altdorf Gate. Middenland retained the Paleisbuurt, and the Altdorf Road. War seemed inevitable, especially after the Northern League made overtures to the leaders of the various factions that had once been the Marienburg Alliance.
In Middenland, the previous Emperor’s wife, Grand Duchess Duccia, had somehow assembled a large army of supporters and had claimed the Imperial Throne. Her ‘election’ was ratified by the electoral assembly within months. Empress Duccia proved a highly-skilled diplomat, and her first act was to make peace with the Northern League. Surrendering all claims to Marienburg and recognising the League’s independence was not popular with the nobles of Middenland, but the economic rewards were immense and enduring.
[Duccia is generally suspected by modern historians of killing her husband. However, assassination was a common means of gaining power in the Empire of Middenland, and her achievements as Empress more than outweigh her crimes.]
For the Sigmarite Empire, the oncoming winter promised only hunger and death. The lands they had gained around Marienburg were of little value, being poor to begin with and now much battered by the war. Worse still, Westen Kasteel had suffered some terrible but unknowable catastrophe that had somehow destroyed its entire garrison with neither sound nor resistance.
[This reference to a seemingly supernatural event at Westen Kasteel is not supported by any other documents I have been able to find. The castle itself stood until its destruction by a freak earthquake in 2438. I have been told that the Sigmarite Church has papers that discus the mysterious ‘attack‘ on the fortress, but that they are under inquisitorial seal and cannot be consulted. I live in hope that the seal will be lifted some time in the future. Still, I suspect you may already know more than I about this matter.]
Yet Emperor Hermann still lived, and roused his armies for a last great assault on Marienburg. It took weeks of bloody and wasteful fighting, but at last the Sigmarites carried almost the entire western wall of the city, and surged into the South Wall Ward. To the north, they also secured Fort Reaver, one of the two citadels guarding the mouth of the Manannspoort.
In the slums of Kruiersmuur, the Sigmarites found large stocks of grain. At first, this seemed like a great blessing. Yet within days many of those who had eaten the grain fell ill with a virulent and unknown illness. The bridges to the ward were broken, but still the plague spread throughout the western side of the city, and throughout the Sigmarite army.
[The origins of this disease are hotly debated, but many draw analogy to the rat-men‘s plague of 1111.]
Though their army was forced to retreat in disarray and they had not captured the city, the Sigmarite Empire had not failed completely. Their control of half of Westerland and reduction of Marienburg’s walls, together with their possession of Fort Reaver, gave them considerable leverage with Marienburg’s new government. Trade was restored, and while the winter of 2201 saw vast numbers of deaths from disease and hunger, in later years the Empire grew strong again.
Hermann proved a strong Emperor, though not as fervent in his devotion to Sigmar as his father had been. Under Hermann, the Empire gradually became more secular. He appointed Arch-Lector Reyneke of Altdorf as the new Grand Theogonist, while Arch-Lector Echard of Nuln appointed himself to the same position. The two Grand Theogonists lost no time in excommunicating each other, and Altdorf and Nuln settled into a protracted and violent feud.
In Marienburg, a collection of the most powerful merchants, soldiers, guild-leaders and other leading citizens banded together with the leaders of the Northern League to form a new Marienburg Assembly. This council, assembled with the aim of reuniting the ravaged city and restoring trade links, came to a variety of arrangements with the various powers that now surrounded the city: the Sigmarite Empire, the Empire of Middenland, the Otillian Empire, the Barak Varr Dwarfs, and the Bretonnian Duchy of L’Anguille. In less than four years, even the Western Elves had returned to their old homes. Marienburg’s days as the Leech of the Old World were over. Its time as the gateway to The Empire had begun.
H,
That marks the end of this particular text. If you still require further information, please do not hesitate to contact me. I recommend visiting the Averheim Library for more on Philip III, and the Breytenbach Memorial in Bechafen for more about the war itself. In the meantime, rest easy.
Your friend,
S
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Bravo Mogsam, it makes great reading
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Ahhh... Brings back memories :laugh:.
Thank you :eusa_clap:!
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Indeed it does!
Good times to be a greedy merchant. Good times.
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Gneisenau is still awaiting trial as he's a dirty traitor to the Sigmarite Empire.
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is he really? and what are the chances he'll mysteriously escape from prison in time to take part in this campaign :biggriin:
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I've renewed the domain for the Marienburg site, it should come back online shortly.
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WOW :icon_eek:
All i can simply say is that I wish I could of been in that campaign. . . Although I probably would of been Hochland as Stattenland wasn't independant in that time, but meh, I would of been Stattenland/Hochland. . .
For the Northern League!
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WOW :icon_eek:
All i can simply say is that I wish I could of been in that campaign. . . Although I probably would of been Hochland as Stattenland wasn't independant in that time, but meh, I would of been Stattenland/Hochland. . .
For the Northern League!
We would have loved to have had you. SirUlrich did GREAT things during the campaign for the faction.
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So he did.
I miss him.
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Ah, that does indeed bring back memories.
I miss Sir U too...
(Hey, it rhymes!)
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Bah, all those armies arrayed against Marienberg and you never took the city. Still, plenty of mercenary captains made a LOT of money :D
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Bah, all those armies arrayed against Marienberg and you never took the city.
Begging your pardon ?
Two or three gates an a couple of bridgeheads in, + you guys were completely surrounded.
I think that qualifies. You were sort of saved by the gong, but the city was falling in the final turn...
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No one's expecting the fluff to be as good as that this time, right?
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Who cares about Marienburg! What really matters is those peasents in Aarnau didn't live very long. I showed them what happened to traitors!
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No one's expecting the fluff to be as good as that this time, right?
Of course not.
The brilliant guy who wrote the fluff last time probably couldn't repeat such an epic work, now could he ? :engel:
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Thank you calvin!
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The brilliant guy who wrote the fluff last time probably couldn't repeat such an epic work, now could he ? :engel:
Knowing that guy, I have confidence that while the fluff will be quite different, it will be every bit as brilliant.
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is he really? and what are the chances he'll mysteriously escape from prison in time to take part in this campaign :biggriin:
Probably pretty good. He has access to the keys and lets himself in and out as much as he wants.
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is he really? and what are the chances he'll mysteriously escape from prison in time to take part in this campaign :biggriin:
Probably pretty good. He has access to the keys and lets himself in and out as much as he wants.
:biggriin: sounds like the empire hasn't quite understood how prisons are supposed to work,
either that or they forgot to pay the guards :biggriin:
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I pay my own guards, thank you very much. :closed-eyes:
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And here I thought we just lived in Mayberry, NC...
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Bah, all those armies arrayed against Marienberg and you never took the city. Still, plenty of mercenary captains made a LOT of money :D
Bah!
Looking at the final map, we have breached the Altdorf Road gate, and ransacked a good portion of the Northern side.
There were some minor skirmishes at the gate where it exchanged hands, but 3 of the 5 city regions north of the river were in our hands.
If anything, it still looks strongly like we have taken a significant portion of the city, while the Sigmarites had committed to an all out siege of the Southern walls, and were just starting to make some progress.
Once again, I have to say though, our success was based purely on SirUlrich's superior strategic intellect, and the strength of our allies from the woods!
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If anything, it still looks strongly like we have taken a significant portion of the city, while the Sigmarites had committed to an all out siege of the Southern walls, and were just starting to make some progress.
That's funny :icon_rolleyes:. The way I see it, Middenland and the Sigmarites have equal control over the city, only the Sigmarites control a larger amount of gates, ie ie connections to the outside world, ie MONEY.
Oh and there's the fact that Middenland is desperately clinging on to a few locations outside the city, so if that falls, you don't have a route back to Middenland. While the Sigmarites control half of Westerland, including a trade route to Bretonnia.
Besides, didn't the Middenland empire kinda fragment as a result of the war? While the Sigmarites made deals and restored trade with Marienburg, which was the point of going to war in the first place :::cheers:::...
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didn't the Middenland empire kinda fragment as a result of the war?
Yes... because the army they used in the campaign (that is, the players) were all from Ostland and Hochland - both of which had been conquered by Middenland. So the formation of the Northern League was a good thing for the players. And to think people say these things are rail-roaded and the players don't have any effect on the fluff!
I think the problems with the Marienburg campaign were:
- unequal faction numbers, caused by the 'everyone loves Sigmar' problem. Towards the end, there were huge numbers of Sigmarites and about four Middenlanders, so we had to use huge balancing factors.
- little mechanical enforcement of the starvation scenario. We needed a resources system.
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The fact that the players help create the fluff is one of the best parts.
Thanks for putting the site back up! Although I havent' had time to take a re-look yet, huge appreciation for this. Huge. :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
Some of the fluff I recall that I enjoyed creating with another player from the Sigmarite faction was wrapped around the other fort on the other side of the bay from Fort Solace, but its name is slipping me at the moment. Also, I enjoyed contributing to the fluff about capturing someone who was rumored to have aided, accidentally or not, the destruction of another more landward place called, if I recall correctly, Western Kasteel.
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If anything, it still looks strongly like we have taken a significant portion of the city, while the Sigmarites had committed to an all out siege of the Southern walls, and were just starting to make some progress.
That's funny :icon_rolleyes:. The way I see it, Middenland and the Sigmarites have equal control over the city, only the Sigmarites control a larger amount of gates, ie ie connections to the outside world, ie MONEY.
While the Sigmarites made deals and restored trade with Marienburg, which was the point of going to war in the first place :::cheers:::...
Just proving that the Sigmarites had no honor and were a bunch of backstabbing hypocrites. All this talk of 'Holy Sigmar this' and 'heretic that' :icon_rolleyes: indeed!
The point was killing Marienburgers!
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Best laugh I've had in awhile, Von Kurst, thank you. :::cheers:::
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as GP said one of the best parts is the players having an impact on the fluff, without this campaigns would be far worse, an example of this is "Project Supremacy" which i heard about on the UE apparently Shiva's idea was so popular GW adopted it themselves and i think that is what this campaign should be like - well maybe not quite as drastic, everyone can't just go around inventing nukes whenever they want but there should definitely be ways for people to have an impact on the campaign fluff :biggriin:
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If anything, it still looks strongly like we have taken a significant portion of the city, while the Sigmarites had committed to an all out siege of the Southern walls, and were just starting to make some progress.
That's funny :icon_rolleyes:. The way I see it, Middenland and the Sigmarites have equal control over the city, only the Sigmarites control a larger amount of gates, ie ie connections to the outside world, ie MONEY.
While the Sigmarites made deals and restored trade with Marienburg, which was the point of going to war in the first place :::cheers:::...
Just proving that the Sigmarites had no honor and were a bunch of backstabbing hypocrites. All this talk of 'Holy Sigmar this' and 'heretic that' :icon_rolleyes: indeed!
The point was killing Marienburgers!
Really? Cause to me, that was just an added bonus :wink:.
Besides, we can't burn heretics at the stake on an empty stomach, can we :P?
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The point was killing Marienburgers!
Besides, we can't burn heretics at the stake on an empty stomach, can we ?
obviously thats why you have to eat your marien-burgers :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
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Really hope there isn't a 30 page thread about a treaty to moderate. Would take ages.
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obviously thats why you have to eat your marien-burgers :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
Cute. :icon_biggrin:
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And yep, kill Marienburgers for food seemed to be the idea. :::cheers:::
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Interesting that there are those who still fear treaties. Its just suppose to be a game. Besides, isn't T&G about treachery and greed anyway? :icon_cool:
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The point was killing Marienburgers!
Besides, we can't burn heretics at the stake on an empty stomach, can we ?
obviously thats why you have to eat your marien-burgers :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
Actually I designed a flagellant special character (Samuel Gurtsohn) who did that...His backstory was that the hunger had driven him mad, so he felt that the best way to punish the greedy, heretic Marienburgers who let Sigmarites starve, was to eat them alive.
... I had to tone it down a bit to get it accepted. No eating the enemies.
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:icon_lol: I don't recall that one, but it a goody.
Imagine that, Sigmarites eating their enemies so they don't starve. :icon_lol:
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when you said that i just imagined a sigmarite ogre :biggriin:
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Best laugh I've had in awhile, Von Kurst, thank you. :::cheers:::
:) You are welcome!
Message for GMs: Are we there yet?
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Here's a clue ..........
How many of you remember the 'Mamas and Papas'
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I see what you've done there!
Did take Wikipedia to do it mind.
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Depending on which song you mean, that's either very good or very bad news :wink:...
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California dreaming.
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That's the only song I knew too. Lionel Richie is quite close too.
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..... but the Boomtown
Skaven Rats would probably disapprove .............
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actually Bob Geldof has that unkempt miserable look rufus cultivates ................
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I object to unkempt. Miserable, maybe.
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are we there yet....
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You just made me feel better about pestering you all those times, Fauthsie... :icon_rolleyes:
- S.S. aka Z
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Indeed. I just think fauthsie likes to bug everyone, since he gets so harassed on his own site about their launch date :::cheers:::
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the launch date for animosity? just go to the home page of animositycampaigns.com and it has a timer - it's like 90 days until launch i think :icon_biggrin:
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the launch date for animosity? just go to the home page of animositycampaigns.com and it has a timer - it's like 90 days until launch i think :icon_biggrin:
I have no idea what you are referring too.... :-o
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yeah right here
http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/ (http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/)
at the moment the timer says...
Comedown to Something :P
89 days 22 hours 8 minutes
Rawrsome!
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yeah right here
http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/ (http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/)
at the moment the timer says...
Comedown to Something :P
89 days 22 hours 8 minutes
Rawrsome!
Nothing there refers to a launch date....
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yeah right here
http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/ (http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/)
at the moment the timer says...
Comedown to Something :P
89 days 22 hours 8 minutes
Rawrsome!
Nothing there refers to a launch date....
When have Orcs ever been able to count past 3 anyway ................
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are we there yet....
............ Oh and Calvin, he say "Later" ........
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yeah right here
http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/ (http://animositycampaigns.com/joomla/)
at the moment the timer says...
Comedown to Something :P
89 days 22 hours 8 minutes
Rawrsome!
Nothing there refers to a launch date....
When have Orcs ever been able to count past 3 anyway ................
We count past three just fine thanks. Wun. Two. Free. Many.
Looking forward to this guys!
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Wun. Two. Free. Many.
do you read discworld by any chance? :-D
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Actually, I thought it wenr someting like... Wun, Two, Fhree, Two on each wun, All on wun hend, Lots, Lots 'n lots, Too zoggin' many!
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Actually, I thought it wenr someting like... Wun, Two, Fhree, Two on each wun, All on wun hend, Lots, Lots 'n lots, Too zoggin' many!
Ohhhhhh you iz wun of dem fancy college Gobboz with ya lernin. Zog you git!
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Actually, I thought it wenr someting like... Wun, Two, Fhree, Two on each wun, All on wun hend, Lots, Lots 'n lots, Too zoggin' many!
Ohhhhhh you iz wun of dem fancy college Gobboz with ya lernin. Zog you git!
ogres are smarter than orcs they can count to 100, observe...
Ogre: wun, too... mumble, mumble... un-undred
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Are we there yet?
How about now?
Cheers!
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Actually, I thought it wenr someting like... Wun, Two, Fhree, Two on each wun, All on wun hend, Lots, Lots 'n lots, Too zoggin' many!
Ohhhhhh you iz wun of dem fancy college Gobboz with ya lernin. Zog you git!
Actually I misspelled. Should be "lotz", not "lots" :wink:.
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stinkin 'umie can't even spell :P