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Between the Battles & the Art ... => The Count's Tavern => Topic started by: Victor on August 31, 2018, 11:50:22 PM
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Fireforge will launch a new kickstarter campaign on the 20th of September. In my opinion, that's one of the more interesting Fantasy miniature releases aside from GW that has come out in a while. The miniatures are heavily 'inspired' by Game of Thrones. The best part is, that the miniatures pretty much have the same scale as GW miniatures.
A preview of the kickstarter campaign is available:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fireforgegames/927490714?ref=558303&token=630d2b53
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/022/309/634/681d60a20afcfc032afc90693f091c79_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1534939380&auto=format&q=92&s=4f6c23c36698d5e8ec46761fc34b138b)
The Stretch Goals include a 2nd human faction (Lannisters ..) and units like this:
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I dont have any fireforge miniatures, but I am a big fan of what they do.
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Okay I'm very interested. I've been a big fan of Fireforge for awhile but never got around to getting anything.
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They look like Bretonnians.
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Oh wow these are very nice...they look like Middenhiemers to me :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
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These look great. I had seen the northmen before, but not the living dead nor the not-undead peasants. Between these and the Northstar kits, I'm feeling like it's a new golden age of plastic minis for my own interests. :-D
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These look great. I had seen the northmen before, but not the living dead nor the not-undead peasants. Between these and the Northstar kits, I'm feeling like it's a new golden age of plastic minis for my own interests. :-D
agreed :::cheers:::
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I'm not sure what I'd use them for, if I buy them.
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I've moved pretty far beyond getting what I have a planned use for. Now I generally get things I like and then try and find a use for it. The northmen could be Brets, but I think I'm more likely to use them as rustic Middenheimers or Ostlanders. Undead would likely join the zombie horde.
I might pick something up but boy have they picked a bad time in my budget.
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Those Lannisterific heavy infantry look like they might be useful as T9A hw+shield Imperial Guard.
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Those Lannisterific heavy infantry look like they might be useful as T9A hw+shield Imperial Guard.
man I got to get caught up on the 9th age stuff
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All that padded armor says ... Bretonnian.
I actually have a Bretonnian army book. Believe it might be the last one that was printed.
Initially considered going that route, but then I saw how many horses I had to paint, and at the time, such wasn't appealing.
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All that padded armor says ... Bretonnian.
I actually have a Bretonnian army book. Believe it might be the last one that was printed.
Initially considered going that route, but then I saw how many horses I had to paint, and at the time, such wasn't appealing.
is there not a 9th age equivalent to them? I thought I read that somewhere?
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Don't know much about 9th age. Not sure I'll ever play it.
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Looks like something I need.
Don't know much about 9th age.
It's warhammer, but made by people who care about balance.
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Don't know much about 9th age.
It's warhammer, but made by people who care about balance.
Some say people who care too much about balance...
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That's about all I'm aware of, except it has it's own world, instead of the Olde World.
Me thinks they are capitalizing on the Game of Thrones series. Humans and undead?
If I recall, I have volume one that I started reading as a youngster. Maybe I'll go back and restart it and see what all the fuss is about.
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Interesting. But I already have so many unpainted human models...
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Interesting. But I already have so many unpainted human models...
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and your point is?
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Interesting. But I already have so many unpainted human models...
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and your point is?
:biggriin:
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Ayways, I really like them. The mounted guys could be easily pressed into service as mounted yeomen. The peasant mob (of the living kind) could make some great flagellants, and all the undead stuff looks usefull too. What I'm really happy about is the scale comparison shot, these guys are as big as GW greatswords. It's a welcome change as most of the other plastic fantasy/historical ranges are smaller and look odd next to empire models.
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I don't know about you guys im backing this with $100.00+ level at least ..im that in love with them lol
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I'm a big fan but it's more a question of how much I can stretch my budget. :(
In a perfect world, I'd like the 140 euro main level pledge. In practice I think I'll be closer to the Veteran level and getting 3 or 4 boxes with maybe a character or two.
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I really want the undead horsemen. They're great!
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They look nice enough, but how many options for the same generic fantasy troops / tropes do we actually need? Hopefully down the line the orcs / elves / dwarves will be interesting rather than just competent, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Interesting. But I already have so many unpainted human models...
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and your point is?
:biggriin:
Touchι.
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All that padded armor says ... Bretonnian.
I actually have a Bretonnian army book. Believe it might be the last one that was printed.
Initially considered going that route, but then I saw how many horses I had to paint, and at the time, such wasn't appealing.
is there not a 9th age equivalent to them? I thought I read that somewhere?
Kingdom of Equitaine. Geared more towards a cavalry/infantry mixed force than the late Bretonnia. But a real update tied to a generally more balanced system.
Then again the Bret look will be usable in any late medieval historical context, so you might think of the Brets as a generalist fantasy/late medieval army, rather than a specific Warhammer army. Bret models will probably give you the widest possible choice of games where you want to utilize them.
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Interesting. But I already have so many unpainted human models...
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and your point is?
:biggriin:
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They look nice enough, but how many options for the same generic fantasy troops / tropes do we actually need? Hopefully down the line the orcs / elves / dwarves will be interesting rather than just competent, but I'm not holding my breath.
I see your point, but I do think they're filling a good spot in the market. The reason I like these and the Oathmark humans are that they provide some solid options for fantasy humans that are not just historical miniatures being used for fantasy. As much as I like (and have use for) minis like the Perry WotR figures, I've also been looking for some non-historicals and I ran into a few problems. Barring "high fantasy" options like GW's Sigmarines or Mantic's almost-Sigmarines, most of what is available is a diverse mix of metal fantasy miniatures with no unifying aesthetic or scale. But these new plastics give a couple of options for bulking out a lot of rank & file affordably, with a big mix of poses (being plastic kits) but still retaining a unified aesthetic.
I do think that there's more generic fantasy available for some of the other races, though -- Northstar (again), Mantic, AoS and I think maybe even one or two smaller producers have covered a lot of the generic dwarfs, elves, O&G with recent plastic kits. Hell, we even have plastic gnolls now!
On the topic of generic fantasy tropes, I think we're still missing a "naked" skeleton kit at this point.
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Maybe this first set of human fantasy dudes from them could be used for Stirlanders? Maybe even Wissenlanders.
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Kickstarter has begun. I think I'm going to go in for the veteran or soldier level, but I'm going to give it a few days to see how it goes. I'm confident it's going to be funded, but I figure after a few days I'll have an idea how stretch goals will go.
I like a lot of the heroes but I'm not desperate for more human and undead heroes. I like the look of the peasant set, and I'm interested to see how they do more fantasy races.
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I think waiting to see how this develops is wise, and might even join in on it at some point.
Continuing to contemplate their use as Stirlanders, maybe Ostermarkers, and I'm less interested in having them as Wissenlanders. The undead could be from Sylvania!
Or Padre could use the undead in his campaign, not that he likely needs encouragement. :icon_wink:
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The undead look wonderful so yes, I am very tempted. Must paint these riders first though! Work got real busy there for a while but should have some time soon.
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Fireforge added ca. 20% discount on their historical (Deus Vult and Albion) plastic sets, if you buy them as add-ons via this kickstarter.
I gave in. I like the kickstarter figures, and have seriously thought about buying some historical plastic sets. Looks like the opportunity has arrived. :)
I'll likely sell one of my kidn... many unfinished Empire projects for this. Time to move on, to new figures (and games too).
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Hmmm ... seems like even as much as approx. 30% off!
Uh, oh ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-IkWpm7TS0
And for those interested, the full scene ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneS2Uwc6xw
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I have some doubts that the goal will be met, let alone any of the stretch goals. I think they are a bit overambitious with those numbers. The kickstarter campaigns that I have looked at in the past, usally meet their goal within the first day or first few days ... or they never do. There seems to be hardly anything in between. We will see.
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I've pledged, but I also generally think they may have been over ambitious. I think they'll meet their main goal but I really don't know how many stretch goals they'll get. They moved pretty far the first day, then slowly ticking upwards. Yet not fast enough. It's a shame because I wanted the peasant mob the most.
If it gets towards the end without much more movement, I hate to say it but I might bump down a pledge level. I pledged a bit higher to get the characters and save room for the peasants.
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Right after posting I went to see if there was an update and there was!
We believe in our kickstarter project. We decided to unlock Folk Rabble plastic set with project funding. We will pay for that production instead to raise more funds by the campaign. However this set will be available later during 2019 and will be not shipped togheter with northmen and living dead boxes.
Apparently plenty of the comments were saying the same thing, so the Rabble will be released as part of the main goal. Yet shipped separately later.
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I've pledged, but I also generally think they may have been over ambitious. I think they'll meet their main goal but I really don't know how many stretch goals they'll get. They moved pretty far the first day, then slowly ticking upwards.
I see this as an honest analysis of the situation. I do hope the KS succeeds, and also funds the character stretch-goals. But progress is slow now.
On the brighter side, if you ever thought about getting some Fireforge historical plastics, they now have essentially a 20 % discount if you pledge/buy them via this KS. For me, that's a reason to up my pledge by 'some'. :-)
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I'm very glad they moved the peasants up. It's a bit of a double edged sword, because it'll be tougher on them as a company. They'll essentially be paying for it out of their own pockets quicker then expected, BUT it's also the main kit I wanted. I love peasant models. So having it unlock right away is great for me.
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Even though I am not contributing, I hope this succeeds. I have always really liked what Fireforge do.
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They put up a WIP preview of the dwarf faction they want to do.
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/022/735/197/ce7885a4a83c35460c2eca754f5ce61e_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&w=639&fit=max&v=1538388162&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=cf1d1793dd01606c55da854a9d3f11bb)
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They look interesting. I hope this all works.
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nice...LONGER Beards :biggriin:
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Those dwarves look perfect for "Imperialized" dwarves if one is inclined to make an army like that. Overall very nice models.
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I quite like the female dwarf and her pick. She looks feminine without being super feminine. I get that it's really just the head, but that's all it takes. Beards could be longer but especially for the front guy I kind of assume he tucks his magnificent length under his breastplate for protection.
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Hmmm ... they look maybe like Bretonnian dwarfs.
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Hmmm ... they look maybe like Bretonnian dwarfs.
WHAAAAA?!?!?! you crazy
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Ya know what they say.
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A very interesting update today. They clearly realize they're slowing down and trying to rectify it. They've changed the unlocks so that all foot characters now unlock at the same time as everything else, so not really stretch goals. They've also added their existing shields to the add ons you can buy, AND made some new resin shields you can buy. Everyone seems to get one pack of 12 shields free (All from one of the 4 new designs.) plus you can order more.
I actually quite like the shields. I'm quite torn between the bear, wolf or tree design.
We are doing our best for a successful campaign. We are trying to listen your feedbacks but we need always the time to check that all changes to the campaign will be done in a right way.
With this update, all characters on foot are now unlocked and will be available for free to pledge levels with this option when campaign will be funded.
We also added a new reward for all backers. We created 4 different shield designs, each backer (except support) will receive one pack of 12 shields of the choosen design for free and all backers of course can add more of them as add-on.
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/022/765/985/e1d6fdd198793a955ab14f73d905360d_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1538577534&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=e6a1da755aa76cec767e7a7f35b66b6f)
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They have 850 pledgees, and need to raise about $2,300 per day remaining. That could be tough.
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I like the Tree one.
Massive target... surely they shouldn't have chosen so highly.
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The stretch goals seem to be getting better nearly every day as they are chasing their target.
A free extra box now if you have pledged over 100e
I wonder how many people are holding off pledging to try and squeeze more out of them.
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Having already pledged over 100 , I can just sit and watch my pledge's value rise. It's nice, of course, IF this funds. I could probably spend some more if Fireforge made an add-on or small stretch goal that would interest me. Still hoping for more add-ons from their resin and metal sets.
BTW, I ordered some Fireforge pavises via Bad Squiddo along with their Freyja kickstart. They are really nice pieces, and match well eg. Perry plastic pavises. If you have thought about getting them, I think now would be a good time. :)
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I'm sitting amongst the magic 100 as well, and it's nice seeing stuff just keep getting added. Especially things like the characters that I kind of mentally wrote off a few days ago. I feel a bit bad for the company though. I like Fireforge and I hope it doesn't tank their resources.
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Some comments ...
The orcs shown in the first update look more like half-orcs.
With stretch goals focused on 100 Euros or more, they recognize there's an issue.
Thank goodness for the Dus Vult add ons, if not, I wouldn't likely pledge, but still haven't.
I like the idea of "Folk Rabble", but not sure I'll order any.
Don't see the campaign reaching to the other human faction,orcs, nor dwarfs.
It is great to have access to all the shield options, yet not sure I need them.
Free frames and boxes are nice, but only if one pledges more than 100 Euros, and not a complaint, just clearly they are lookimg to meet the campaign goal and attract large buyers into the campaign to make it.
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Very good summary of what the KS is about, and where it's heading atm. It's looking way better now than when it started, and I feel the response can be seen in the new momentum.
I also immediately thought of half-orcs when I saw their orc renders. I think AD&D half-orcs especially look like these. :::cheers:::
I'd like to note that after the Characters on foot were added to the basic goal of 130K , and now that everyone at 15 or higher gets one free sprue and some faction shields, even the lower pledge levels have become attractive value-wise. If this reaches 140K and the mounted characters get added, the Soldier pledge especially is very sweet. So if you chase value but are happy with few KS boxes, and/or want historical add-ons, you still have nice options. If you aim at a good number of historical add-ons, even the smaller pledge levels easily climb over 100 too, further sweetening the deal.
Fireforge has really met the demands of the public. I hope this doesn't undermine their business.
The Folk Rabble box comes with three identical sprues of six figures each (4 male, 2 female). I'm planning to get a couple of boxes, even if I already have a bunch of Foundry, Gripping Beast, Lead Adventure/Bruegelburg and Mordheim (angry) peasants, mostly unpainted still. It will be a nice box to tinker and mix with other plastics, and gives you excellent bodies for Flagellants if you have Flagellant arm spares. A sprue of six will also be a very nice trade or giveaway for hobby friends. And if you want to monetarize it later, you should be able to get your monies back at 4-5 (5-6 $) per sprue.
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I'm guessing they will have similar kickstarters in the future, which will provide other good deals to get more figures, new and old.
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I am also in over 100e
and I got their pavises at Salute - Zyg is right, they are good
and I too got Bad Squiddo's Freya's Wrath figures - they're great too.
Fireforge seem a pretty decent outfit who have established themselves over a number of years. They had a successful KS with their Bloodbowl Amazons, but I do feel that maybe this one was too ambitious.
NorthStar have been working on their Oathmark figures and have spaced out the 'arrival' of the 4 different races' boxes - Fireforge may well have been better off restricting this KS to the 3 boxes of a single race and then done the second race in 6 months time.
And probably they would have been better off judging the value better and making the KS box price better, or more figures per box, and then having far less complications with all the stretch goal and extras changes.
Some KS are just too complicated.
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They've held at slightly ahead of the $2,300 per day so far.
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I really think part of it is just how spoiled a lot of people have become with kickstarters. I don't mean this in a bad way, but think about how many kickstarters from big companies offer huge discounts, or tons of free stuff, or even just really shiny extras. Fireforge is a fairly small company that can't offer all of that. Combined with being a bit over ambitious, it's just not enough to attract a lot of the 'regular' mini backers.
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Yeah, this KS has had complications. I would think Fireforge overstretched at start, had to throw in discounted add-ons from their existing range early (most companies do this midway or late), and has steadily crept back from their KS income through offering more freebies. Over half of the Early Bird pledges are still available, and that tells about the unfulfilled hopes of Fireforge - yet is a nice thing for a late pledger.
Nevertheless, at this point the different pledge levels seem to have found their balance, and the KS seems to have momentum again. And Fireforge have been very responsive and friendly all the time. My feeling is that Fireforge have already proven themselves, and I will order some from them also after this KS.
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I am quite interested in who Gankom thinks is a 'big' company in the miniatures gaming world?
Most of the well known ones probably have a garage or shed as their building, and maybe 2 or 3 employees - several are one man bands who hire sculptors in as needed and then get independent castors to spin the miniatures, or Renedra to make the sprues.
Without too much exact knowledge, but based on the number of people I have seen on stands at exhibitions Fireforge are certainly not 'small' relative to the majority of manufacturers.
The ones I might acknowledge as 'larger' like Foundry or Gripping Beast may employ 5 - 10 people, have a phone service for orders, and spin their own metal figures, but neither of those have done KSs.
Indeed I thought Kickstarters were to get funding to get a project started - paying for the making of the moulds and/or the manufacture of the plastic kit moulds which was the game changer in our hobby.
The actual KS saw these costs covered and the company/owner then enjoyed the profit from future sales.
The initial KS covered all the set up costs and made a modest profit, and then future sales at a higher list price reaped the better profit.
That is the question really - once the KS is over how many more boxes are sold in normal transactions?
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I am quite interested in who Gankom thinks is a 'big' company in the miniatures gaming world?
Just off the top of my head when I made that comment, I was thinking specifically of Reaper, Mantic and CMON. All three of whom have done kickstarters and have a lot more funding behind them. I don't know much about CMON, but both Reaper and Mantic and fairly significant staff and space. Fireforge I believe has two people (?) judging from the kickstarter.
I know there's lots of other fairly small miniature companies. And they do some amazing stuff! I just think Fireforge ranks more amongst the smaller ones then larger ones.
Indeed I thought Kickstarters were to get funding to get a project started - paying for the making of the moulds and/or the manufacture of the plastic kit moulds which was the game changer in our hobby.
The actual KS saw these costs covered and the company/owner then enjoyed the profit from future sales.
This is kind of what I was talking about when I was saying people seem a bit spoiled. and I'm in total agreement with you about everything else you said to. Kickstarter should absolutely be about getting the funding to 'kick start' the line. To get moulds made or books printed. But there's a lot of people in the comments for FireForge essentially bemoaning the fact their not getting more free stuff, or bigger discounts, etc. That kind of stuff does get offered by the bigger companies when they do kickstarters. Look at reaper making models for 50 cents a guy, or throwing in whole groups for relatively cheap stretch goals. I think some folks have just lost a bit of perspective when it comes to a small company trying to get moulds made.
Thinking back, I don't really remember Mantic's stretch goals but the kcikstarter I did with them was all about the huge number of guys you'd get for relatively cheap prices. In their case they wanted the new rulesbook funded and all the models already had moulds. So they could afford to offer more guys.
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It's now 9 days remaining and sitting at a need of $2,450 per day, which means behind where it was over the last week. Things seem to pick up in the last few days for these things, so maybe they can still make it.
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what are the rules like?
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what are the rules like?
At a browsing, the basic engine is similar to Warhammer, maybe 6th ed. Units are formed of individual models, and you count losses as individual models. You roll d6's and the like.
Differences:
You do not compare values in a table to get the target number, but units have fixed target numbers, similar to Kings of War or AoS. There might be situational modifiers to these numbers. The modern way you see in all games (but T9A).
Then there's a Stamina system. Basically, each unit has three (or more or less) Stamina points which they can use to enhance a single action. On the other hand, some actions, like moving and charging, are not as efficient as in Warhammer without the use of Stamina. Using Stamina also gives a malus in certain situations. So if a unit charged using Stamina, and then loses the combat, their combat resolution is one point less (IIRC). Thus units with unused Stamina points, or which didn't use Stamina this turn, have options and strength. Whereas units without Stamina are more predictable and less efficient, ie. tired. This looks like a good & interesting system to me. But likely needs a lot of balancing. Of course, it also means you need to have some sort of counters for each unit.
Also, magic runs with Stamina, so is a finite resource. Spells aren't that spectacular, and mostly give small boni to your own units. There were a couple of dozen spells described, in various convocations. I don't know if that's all there will be.
There is a morale phase after all the other phases. This means that units stay effective throughout their turn, and that all losses etc. are counted into the panic roll. Seems good to me, as you can pile up damage to a unit, and the unit cannot 'hide behind' its first panic roll.
Can't remember if there were special rules. But this is alpha phase, and the rules are very compressed. I would think when Fireforge adds specialized units and whole new factions, they need to introduce some special rules to differentiate the units and factions.
Just my hunch after one browsing.
FF is also doing a skirmish version that uses round bases. They haven't yet shown any of that.
Also, FF said at one point that they are not doing siege rules (even if the KS has the Renedra castle pieces as add-ons).
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I'm of the same mind as Zygmund. I really like the idea of Stamina, but I'm waiting for more then the Alpha rules to see just how balanced and effective it is.
They were also saying that all the rules had to be translated from Italian. So not only is there a bit more detail that hasn't be translated yet, but that they had some concerns about how wording would translate in the alpha so some small things might change.
Did they really say no siege rules? I thought someone said at some point there would be. Huh, good to know.
I'm really interested in the peasant rabble, even though its coming out later. They were saying in the comments that they intend to build the sprue so you can build the models in a couple of different ways. The main ones they mentioned is that they want you to be able to build them either as rabble like militia, more normal looking townsfolk NPC's, or as rioters.
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Did they really say no siege rules? I thought someone said at some point there would be. Huh, good to know.
I could be wrong, of course. I think there have been comments both negative and more recently positive. Perhaps they imply that the basic rules that come out in May do not have siege rules incorporated, but later on they plan to do it.
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Ah that does make sense. I have seen several comments mentioning they would keep it pretty basic at first.
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Looks like this one has taken a good step towards funding over the past couple of days. Only 5.5K to go atm. I think it's given that it will fund a day or two before the finish. So there could be a stretch goal or two included - the mounted characters, and somethin little more if Fireforge adds something to chase for past 140K.
But no other human faction or the fantasy races. Unless something totally fantastic happens.
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Yes, I'd be surprised if it doesn't fund now.
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I love the look of the undead knights, and the undead rabble-types, but they would be of use to me now, not next March (or whenever it is). By then I might want something quite different.
Ah well - I've still got LOADS to paint. I'll no doubt end up buying them eventually.
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I love the look of the undead knights, and the undead rabble-types, but they would be of use to me now, not next March (or whenever it is). By then I might want something quite different.
Ah well - I've still got LOADS to paint. I'll no doubt end up buying them eventually.
No, you should support this KS now, help to bring your liked sets into production, and get yourself a pleasant surprise next spring! :)
I'd suggest you pledge for the Living Dead Horde at 48 . It's good value at three boxes, as it gets you an extra sprue and the undead characters too. Or go for the Soldier pledge at 64 for double boxes of the undead knights and zombies each, and get some additional living characters. Or add a box of the living sort of rabble too. You're gonna love it, and especially we'll gonna love it when you paint them and tell their story in one of your reports!
Really, the Tileans do need some reinforcements too. Maybe call them marines, a nucleus of a potential new faction or a mercenary force to tip the balance if one of your firends loses too badly. Take the Starter Set with the Northmen. They're great. The extra stuff at this level is also very convincing. You need that graveyard too, both as a resting place for all the fallen in your campaign, and a potential home for future undead... What's not to like in the deal?
I'd bet the clarity of the sculpts combined with your strong painting style would make everything look superb!
Anyway, that's the route I was swallowed into this, and am now further above the Starter Set level... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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And can I point out the wonderful undead doggo kits that come with the undead knights, as well as the fine folk rabble that would look perfect in whatever town your mercenaries are capturing?
Shill! Shill! Shill!
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Currently it's there by £35.00
Now just as long as a few wimps do not drop out.
My son and I are both in, but he seems to think there is a tendency for people to drop out if the KS only just makes it. I found that surprising but I suppose if it means that stretch goals are not met then some may consider the package not worth it. Hopefully as Fireforge have reduced targets and increased unlocked items to encourage participation, that will be enough.
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So I finally pledged.
Only for a Northmen Detachment, but maybe I'll add something else before it's all done.
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I've been convinced. And with two new work bookings coming in today, I feel like I can afford it. Also the fact that I have now got loads of extra prep to do for one of the new bookings means I feel like spoiling myself, so I will pledge tomorrow - folk rabble, undead rabble and undead horse is what I'm after. (Not sure of official terms.)
Still, it's a long wait!
Just bought Frostgrave's Ghost Archipelago crewmen. More recruits for my pirate army. Looking forward to painting them. The Sartosan pirates will make an appearance in the Tilea campaign soon!
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Huzzah!
My son and I are both in, but he seems to think there is a tendency for people to drop out if the KS only just makes it. I found that surprising but I suppose if it means that stretch goals are not met then some may consider the package not worth it. Hopefully as Fireforge have reduced targets and increased unlocked items to encourage participation, that will be enough
I agree with your son, although I don't think it'll be a big problem on this one. If you read through the comments there were a lot of people who only wanted the additional human faction or half orcs, and were very clear they planned to drop out if it wasn't met. There were also a lot of people saying the same if the characters didn't get unlocked, but that was before they moved it.
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Interestingly, I've seen two drops in the overall amount pledged this morning.
So once again, some folks are dropping out, even though it has made its target.
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I'm thinking of painting these guys up in a variety of colors, with the idea of them being mercenaries that can be used in different situations.
I'm leaning toward the padded armor being grey, and perhaps the clothing being quartered in red, white, yellow, and purple or maybe the latter color will be green.
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I'm planning for a color scheme just like Throne's Starks. Browns and greys, although I really like the idea of a couple trimmed with green to represent Stirlanders.
I've seen some great color schemes recently of similar undead in purple colors that I really want to try out. I use primarily reds and blacks for my various undead, so I want to branch out a bit. The black and white (Bones) can tie them together, and purple cloth can show them as a separate army or faction within my undead horde.
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If I quarter as mentioned and with green instead of the first idea of purple, they can be Wissenland, Stirland, Talabecland, Talabheim, and Hochland. The first two more likely. Or even Soland!
At the same time, they'll fit into any one of my Tilean Mercenary groups.
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I may look into pledging now. Maybe. Hmmm.
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I may look into pledging now. Maybe. Hmmm.
Welcome to the fold! I want to see those mounted heroes funded. :)
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Funded. Join the bandwagon, people !
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Seemed to be an increase in number of folks pledging over night, and at 132K the funding seems certain.
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It is now up over 135K and saw it climbing this morning. Maybe it will hit 140K and will get the heros on horse.
I'm still at the Northmen Detachment level, but contemplating the next level up, and maybe I might do something to get over the 100 euro level. If I did that, then I'd be buying 4 boxes and get a 5th box free, which would give enough figures combined to have a unit of bows, two units of warriors, and two units of cav.
Plus there's that extra sprue thrown in for conversions or maybe more bows or use those 6 figures as swords with the rest of the warriors being spears or whatever.
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Still haven't done it. Something is preventing me now that they don't need my help to succeed.
Mind you, I still have time to get my act together and take the plunge.
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Ha! I didn't do it to help, I like the figures! It is more about having something of quality for my fantasy goals and dreams.
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I love the figures, but will they be what I want and need when they finally come? I'm trying to stick to purchases that the campaign can use,
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Yep, that makes sense with what you're doing. :icon_cool:
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I've jumped in the deep end...
Forgotten world starter set..... :closed-eyes:
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I've jumped in the deep end...
Forgotten world starter set..... :closed-eyes:
Correct choice! :)
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So I opted not to raise my pledge. It all seems like a good bargain, yet I resisted spending more than I'd prefer at the moment.
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Now the waiting begins!
This is the first time I'm a bit over anticipating the release of figures. Not sure what that is all about. I've been patient with many, but looking forward to this release more so.
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I would have found that frustrating as heck. Glad I just carried on and didn't get lured by promises for the future! (They are glorious looking figures and I will get them one day.)
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So here's what I have ...
1 box of Northmen on horse ... 6 figures (probably more of a light to medium cav look to them)
1 box of Northmen warriors ... 12 figures (going to turn these into spearsmen)
1 box of Northmen archers ... 12 figures
1 sprue of Northmen warriors ... (probably going to turn them into swordsmen)
12 extra sheilds ... hoping we can pick between bear, cat, dragon, and tree.
I was so tempted to go up to the 100 Euro level because then I'd have gotten another box of warriors and my free box would have been another unit of cavalry. I was also considering getting a box of the historical sergeants on foot for my medieval armies, and then I would have purchased some of the pavise to fill out the full amount. However, glad I resisted for the moment.
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I'm splitting the starter box with a friend, and getting some extra boxes from another friend's early bird set (which will only arrive when the peasant rabble are done). This will give me a sizeable human force, plus a new undead knights unit. Glad the mounted characters were funded, they will make excellent unit champions for the mounted units.
Plus trying out a couple of the historical sets. People have expressed mixed feelings about their quality, but in the end I decided to see for myself. Very probably will split even some of these, as I think I won't actually want to use more than two of each pose.
This will be about 200 new minis, half fantasy and half historical. Now I need to clear the tables and lockers of old projects, and sell what I'm not gonna finish. Some hard choices for sure.
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Yes on the special character figures! Good to have the human one's thru my purchase for free. :icon_mrgreen:
Wondering which historical sets ya picked up Zygmund :icon_question:
Regarding various projects, I need to get them all in one place, and start sorting down through them. It is a project in itself to organize my figures at some point. I found a piece of furniture in a consignment store with many thin drawers that I was considering, but when I went back to buy it, already sold. Maybe I'll just buy a tall bureau of some kind and start getting projects divided and sorted.
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I got the early bird bid, so it's going to be one of each kit, plus 2 peasants and the characters. I was in originally for the Northmen, but I do really like the look of the undead knights. I'm hoping to clear my painting desk at least a little before they arrive.
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Gankom ... that is awesome. I'm not really into making an undead army, but they do look good. The early bird was tempting too. As was the starter set, except it seems that would have provided more undead figures than Northmen.
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Indeed! I'm not as interested in the undead infantry. They look nice and fine, but I'm not a huge undead fan. But I thought the deal was good and I can always use more zombies to bulk my existing armies. I have some half formed plans to make them look like frozen zombies ala game of thrones to use in Frostgrave.
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I have so many projects going on that if I started an undead army, who knows when it might ever happen.
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Wondering which historical sets ya picked up Zygmund :icon_question:
I'm sure to take the Foot Sergeants. But I put my money also into two standard boxes (21 in this KS), and haven't yet made a final decision. Russians and Mongol cavalry could be nice. Look to the east.:)
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So I didn't pledge.
And I assume its too late?
I guess I will have to wait - not as though I am in a rush and don't already have hundreds of models to assemble and paint already!
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Yep Warlord, the campaign is complete. Sometimes companies open up somewhere for after the fact pre-buying, although not always. Fire Forge seems like the kind of company that might offer pre-buying at the kickstarter prices, yet we'll see.
Wondering which historical sets ya picked up Zygmund :icon_question:
I'm sure to take the Foot Sergeants. But I put my money also into two standard boxes (21 in this KS), and haven't yet made a final decision. Russians and Mongol cavalry could be nice. Look to the east. :)
The foot sergeants is an excellent box. I've seen the Mongol cav they are very good. Haven't seen the medieval Russians.
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The word is that they might deliver earlier than forecast, as the original due date was based on having to get the extra stretch goal plastic kits done.
I've gone early bird and will just get Northmen - to go in my new militia style army on 20mm square bases
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It looks like these kits come with square and round bases!
I'm excited because the square bases will get used with these fantasy figures, and the round ones will be used for some of my historicals.
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I have the sergeants box already ... They're my next painting project and just what the mercenary Bretonnian Brabanzon need.
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Oooh! Good idea. :::cheers:::
They definitely work as Bretonnians. :icon_cool:
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My Foot Serteants will be generic high/late medieval mercenary infantry. A unit of their own, deployable (and dispendable?) in most games I play.
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Your making me wish I'd ordered some. :icon_lol:
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So here's the info from their first update after the campaign ended ...
Greetings backers!
We are working to start the production as soon as possible. We still have to adjust and fix something (like someone saw about the faction shield, we did a mistake on the side where are turned the symbols). So, what will happen now?
As soon as possible we will launch our post pledge campaign, probably with pledge-manager.com
With Pledge Manager, you will let us know which products taken with your pledge and you will be able to pay for the shipping costs. Probably payments will be processed by Stripe, it will be not possible by Paypal.
With pledge manager we will open for a late pledge to all who asked in these days who didn't joined in time on the campaign.
We will also allow to who pledged supporter with just 1€ to join late pledge (we discovered that in the last 48€, most of them didn't know that we don't allow pledge changes like we wrote in the faqs)
Someone asked about folk rabble: we are still working on them, we are trying to obtain a plastic set that will be useful to get angry peasants/rabble levies and normal villagers to be used in roleplaying games. Naturally we want launch pledge manager only once we will have their layout to show, so everyone will be able to choose folk rabble among their boxes
The same for free frames: we are still in production progress, so the layout can suffer small changes. We will show the final layout of the frames in pledge manager so you will be able to get the frame you need
We are almost ready with starting beta of the rules, everyone who backed for forgotten world starter set or forgotten world rulebook will get an invitation and will receive a pdf with the beta rules.
If you have further infos please write here so we will be able to answer to everyone and everyone will be able to read our answer.
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Kind of weird to see the Stripe thing. I can't remember if I've paid for other kickstarters through paypal or just straight from a credit card.
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Yep, evidently according to the comments, Stripe is a pay system connected some how to Kickstarter, although believe I've only paid through PayPal for most if not all of my pledges.
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I don't care much for the human infantry. There's something that I don't like about them being obviously GoT, but meant to represent something completely unrelated.
The zombified soldiers though, I like them. For WFB/T9A, I prefer zombie models with some amount of armament, to justify them being threatening. Even if it's just a single S3 attack, that's still supposed to be comparable to a living human swinging a hand weapon.
I just recently got an awesome idea for T9A: The army of Gilles de Raux, the Vampire-King of Equitaine during the Seventh Age, whose followers embraced vampirism and necromancy in order to save their homeland from being overrun by the Ratmen. Army would be Blood Dragons absolutely maxed out to be combat monsters, including Vampire Knights, with the rest mostly zombies to clog the board and bog down the enemy.
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-ninth-age/images/5/5b/BRB_7th_Age_-_Gilles_de_Raux.png/revision/latest?cb=20180614214606)
The people whisper that I am a dark king, and curse me behind my back for leading an army of the dead. Would they prefer that it was an army of the living, to which they would be levied to suffer the horrors of war? An army that they would have to feed from their meagre stores? An army that they would have to quarter in their homes, that might inflict violence on their men and violation on their women? Be that as it may, I do not fight for the acclaim of the ignorant and prejudiced. I fight for Equitaine, and will endure any infamy for my homeland. I will ride with my avenging sword in hand until Equitaine is free.
-King Gilles de Raux
The crypts are our barracks! The graveyards are our mustering fields! The dead will rise, for vengeance! The dead will rise, to fight for the living!
-Royal Paladin Reynaud the Red Knight, from one of his better propaganda speeches
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The armaments of the human infantry are really generic 13th to early 15th century. The GoT series is not the first nor the last to go for that inspiration. Even GW has had troops with similar armour and helmets. Like one of the Empire Militia chests and some Bret plastic infantry.
I agree some of the painted examples and especially their wolf emblems lean towards the style of the GoT series northerners. But really the design is not invented nor owned by the GoT series makers.
GoT made it publicly known and recognized, of course.
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It's not just the northerner infantry, it's everything. That one hero character is the spitting image of James Cosmo as Jeor Mormont of the Night's Watch. Those as of yet unfunded soldiers of the other human faction look almost identical to Lannister troops as shown on GoT, a style I don't believe ever existed historically, even if it is a combination of a variety of historical styles from around the world. The middle guy too is the spitting image of Charles Dance as Tywin Lannister.
If I were to abandon sense and give in to my creative inspiration to make the army of Gilles de Raux, those zombified northerner soldiers would fit in well. That armour could, based on painting, either pass off as leather or padded armour. Those zombified lannisters though, they'd stick out, and only being two poses, it wouldn't help to separate them alone into something else, like Grave Guard.
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I haven't seen the TV show.
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I think Fireforge have gone deeper than GoT for inspiration. GoT just has a dominating position in modern fantasy, so is an easy reference point.
I'd search for James Cosmo's face in the Frostgrave Soldiers box, and compare the other human faction armour to that worn by the Minas Tirith warriors in Peter Jackson's LotR. The Fireforge armour with the heavy chest plate I find more realistic than in GoT or LotR. Hope to see them in production some day.
I think Fireforge have been quite clever in designing their fantasy line to echo with many recent fantasy bestsellers, but then enhanced the sculpts with historical references and characteristics of their own.
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Yeah, well, I shouldn't be complaining (and I really am not), just saying why the style doesn't quite do it for me. As I said earlier in this thread, those Lannisterific heavy infantrymen would work as T9A Imperial Guard (not for me, and I'm anyway good in that regard after having done my Perry foot knight conversions). The more plastic ranges there are out there, the better. The undead especially are good, I would much rather buy them than GW's current fare, which I frankly find hideous, and not in a good way.
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I think Fireforge have gone deeper than GoT for inspiration. GoT just has a dominating position in modern fantasy, so is an easy reference point.
But when it comes to armour, GoT should really not be used as such, because there are quite many costumes, which are ridiculous and total garbage in my opinion. (Assuming, we are talking about the TV show here.)
Edit: I mean, whoever designed this for example, should consider changing profession entirely.
(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/got-trailer-7.jpg?w=600)
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Uh oh, imagine that, fantasy looking like fantasy. :icon_wink:
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Fantasy looking like garbage.
That's the thing I always loved about the old Warhammer and the Empire. Everything was heavily based on / inspired by real historical things and the fantasy element was just the flavour on top. Most fantasy armours, weapons and costumes, that try to reinvent the wheel, fail absolutely miserably. I have an almost irrational hatred towards those. Can't helpt it.
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That can be attractive to me, too.
However, Steveb has kind of weakened me a bit on that attitude, and I've become a bit more flavoristic in my fantasy approach as a result.
Besides, these guys could be good mercenaries in so many Warhammer situations, plus maybe backwoods Stirlanders who can't afford anything else but this, Wissenlanders from the mountainous areas that might be partially influenced by Bretonnia, Tilean mercs who've managed to cobble together a mixture of equiptment, or even a Bretonnian influenced Border Prince army.
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I was not talking about these "Stark miniatures" from the KS. I'm not a massive fan of them, but they are decent and can be used for conversions, hence why I started this thread. With the Lannister minis on the other hand, we are approaching bad fantasy (body-) armour territory already.
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What Victor said. If "fantasy" means that anything can be anything like Alice in the Wonderland, nothing has any significance in the fantasy world. There is such a thing as internal, contextual realism.
The best fantasy worlds are those where the creators have given proper thought to the consequences of the presence of the fantasy elements, and made it show in how the world works. For instance, warmachines in Warhammer should be designed lighter, more agile and faster to aim than their real-world counterparts. Because the latter were designed to shoot at slow-moving rank and file, the former have to be able to deal with flying monsters.
Stupid armour has no reason to exist in a fantasy world, unless its user has style as a much higher priority than utility. Which is an entirely plausible motivation, though people who can afford to splurge money on such would probably have separate battle armour for actual combat.
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Indeed it was very common for people to have battle armour and ceremonial armour.
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Indeed it was very common for people to have battle armour and ceremonial armour.
I am the same with my socks.
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And me with my underwear!
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Woah, Padre and Gankom don't have battle armor nor ceremonial armor? I'm shocked! :icon_eek:
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My underwear IS my battle armor. You can tell by the... grass stains...
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Uh boy, tmi. :icon_wink:
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I have a gorget, just a 'token' piece of armour from when it was no longer useful but was still fashionable for officers who wanted a soldierly look. My buff leather coat, however, is rubbish. I would love a properly thick one but they cost hundreds and hundreds of pounds!
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They've released some new pictures showing the peasant rabble. Confirming that they can be built like rioters, militia or normal looking. Looks pretty good!
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/023/259/247/210e43f1ba328277790ef6fe15d6eeaa_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&w=639&fit=max&v=1542191834&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=7b63a3af065d0f7e6deefb591df13d62)
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/023/259/255/42083b34e6a84ee8029956bd632ea5f8_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&w=639&fit=max&v=1542191899&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=f6dfd57016ea7a1a1b4e8e4b22b25bba)
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Looks ok. Perhaps I'll get a box at some point.
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dude, why do the woman have to have brooms and baskets? I'm going to put on a pink pu%%^ hat and protest Trump :-P
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Just kidding great miniatures ..love these :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::
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Yeah but how can we trust anything you say Zak when you're a suspected scammer...
This is the kit to make everything right Zak. All the men get brooms and baskets, and the women get torches. Just like my usual family gatherings.
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I'd hope the final version of these peasants would come with less cartoony faces. Or less angry/determined. They should be relaxed, happy, plain, or anxious.
The woman arms could carry laundry, kettles and kids too. :wink:
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Quote Gankom:Just like my usual family gatherings.
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I'd hope the final version of these peasants would come with less cartoony faces. Or less angry/determined. They should be relaxed, happy, plain, or anxious.
The woman arms could carry laundry, kettles and kids too. :wink:
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Well, it's enough of a feat that it's (apparently) possible to build them as either an angry rioting mob, a militia that means business, or just peasants going about their usual business, by using the same bitz in different ways. Though, I suppose it should be possible to have a wider variety of faces for all purposes. Many plastic kits come with way more heads than faces. It'd be enough, I suppose, if there were three kinds of faces (angry, serious, chill) and any two of those combined would be enough for all the bodies.
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I will be picking these peasants for sure at some point. I think these would make grat flagellants with some conversion work. I never liked the plastic flagellant models, with their ripped chests and bulging muscles. Weren't these guys supposed to be starved loonies?
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Talking of Flagellants, I would still go after the 6th ed metal ones, with a ragtag collection of armour over and under their well worn robes, unkempt and barefoot. Just the right mix of madness, monkishness and mercenary.
With six different sculpts they even have decent variety. A couple of the sculpts are very easy to convert, and the 6th ed Warrior Priests also fit the unit very well.
At one point they sold cheaply in eBay. Possibly more sought after today, or simply rarer because of time passing.
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Yeah, I don't think flagellants should just look like an angry mob in a temporarily agitated state. They're more than that. Flagellantism is an ideology, a lifestyle, and the 6th edition and newer models convey that well.
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Warrior priests and these flaggellants were what sold me on Warhammer. I totally agree with konrads assessment that its an ideology.
(https://artobansghost.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/img_1909.jpg)
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Those above are nicely done! :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
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Those are beautifully done crazy men.
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I received an email a bit back regarding going to the Fire Forge site for their kickstarter to pick products for my pledge. I also discovered that postage hadn't been paid yet. I also tacked on one of the folk rabble boxes to my order, and then paid the bill.
Looking forward to the order being received. :icon_cool:
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I did all my postage and picking last week as well! Really looking forward to this one. I like the sculpts and LOVE the peasants (Both alive and dead).
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I decided to wait for the Peasants box to be released.
You can pick up Fireforge boxes with 20% off in the UK quite easily, and the KS add-on option is no cheaper and there's postage. It will come later than the normal KS bits anyway.
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So apparently there has been some sort of issue over not enough having been charged for shipping.
In being given the opportunity to pay the extra shipping cost, mine was only 2 extra euros, there was also opportunity to amend one's order. I got rid of the folk rabble, and bought more shields. This included one set of each of those with the fantasy heraldry, and for historical purposes I also picked up a set of the Floentine pavises and the standard pavises too. By ditching the folk rabble, only had to pay a total of 9 extra euros. :icon_cool:
I wanted to buy more of the fantasy figures, yet resisted.
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Lucky you GP. My same order had an additional 17 euro's worth of shipping that needed to be paid. Not terrible, but not thrilling either. technically paying was optional because of their mistake, but I feel for the guys. It's a small operation just trying to get some things done.
That said, I hope I get my stuff soon. I have plans to convert up some Stark themed Bretts.
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I'd like to use these for playing Dragon Rampant. Not sure I'll have enough figures or not yet, although it does seem like with the fantasy elements of wizards and leaders as options for taking in DR, I suspect that a list can be arrived at.
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They are shipping, apparently 1st 700 backers are out.
I was late to the party, and so not me yet.
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I just got my shipping notice last night, and I was fairly late to it as well.
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Well I was one for the last several, hedged on doing it for a good bit.
Looking forward to them, and currently considering how I plan to paint them.
I'm most likely going to have different units in different livery colors, and something different than the main colors of a color wheel. I've also got all four of the sets of shields on order (one was free from the pledge level, and the others purchased). I hoping this kind of mix of livery for the units will keep the project fresh and moving forward.
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Yeah I've gone back and forth on how I want to paint them. I'm thinking to keep the Northmen in vaguely Stark colors, because I'm a fan of GoT, but the Undead I might do some fun experiments with.
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Well, the one's I use a wolf shield with might have "Stark" colors, and such could be used for Middenheim or Middenland as well, yet I'm thinking more along the lines of the Border Princes for perhaps all of these figures. Not sure yet.
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Middenheim would certainly fit with some wolf shields. They've got the same kind of feel to it.
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Woo! My Kickstarter has arrived! A nice full box of lovely plastic goodness. The top regiment box got pretty dinged up in transit, but nothings broken and it's all there. I'm actually quite happy that they all came in their normal regiment boxes. I'm so sue to reaper sending everything in little baggies I didn't realize I missed good old fashioned boxes. Only the special characters and kickstarter stretch goals came in a separate little box.
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Hmmm ... guess I need to go check my box!
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Similar story to Gankcom.
Outer box was a bit flimsy, and one of the plastics boxes was a bit squashed, but the resin special characters bits were in a tougher box in between the plastic box sets, and were all ok.
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Alright then. I want to see some product reviews and conversions with those miniatures in the Brush & Palette forum! :icon_cool:
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Checked my box, but no Fireforge fantasy miniatures yet.
Did get my 6 Ogres (sets V1 & V2) and their pet jumbo sized bull dog from the Atlantis Miniatures Ogres kickstarter ...
... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlantisminiatures/atlantis-miniatures-ogres/description ... looks like late pledges are still being accepted.
Might buy the V3 set and leader dude next.
However, will be continuing to keep an eye out for the Forgotten Worlds dudes ... looking forward to them!
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Been getting update emails from Fireforge on these being mailed. Going to check my box again.
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Uh oh, my order arrived. :icon_mrgreen:
These look like they are going to be fun to do! I ordered extra shields with the various heraldry on them and different units will have different shields. I'm hoping to start these soon, but who the heck knows with my schedule currently. Probably need to be a bit patient, and complete the hobby organizational stuff I am doing first, including prioritizing projects. These are going to make excellent Border Prince units, almost can't wait!
I opted to keep the purchase at the three boxes, plus the free extra sprue, and besides the shields that are for these figures, also picked up a package of regular pavises, and a package of the pavises with the Florentine heraldry, too. Oh, and the stretch goal figures look suitably detailed for leaders. :icon_cool:
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I'm pretty pleased with the leaders. I still have the peasants coming later in the year, and those will be the real treat for me. I love villager type models.
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You guys got any pictures?
Somewhere I read that the resin heroes have the layers of 3d printing visible. Is that true? How visible are they?
Biting my fingernails here. I went for the basic box, which contains the rulebook & counters, which are delayed. Didn't ask for a separate posting for the figures only (which they kindly offered), so now have to wait. Perhaps a month still.
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I'll pull them out again and have a closer look because I saw some of those comments as well, but I didn't notice much in my initial look. I'll see if I can grab some decent pictures.
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Hmmm ... so these extra figures are 3D printed? Ok, so yes, then it seems it can be seen a bit when looking at the wizard. Although, I have to look closely to see it. What is more of an issue with the wizard is the separate cape bit doesn't neatly link with the rest of the figure. There is a bit of a gap between the fur portion as part of the main figure and the cape that isn't.
The cavalry leader and foot leader have most of their bits on small sprues. The two head/weapon/shield sprues are slightly different, and looks like most items are interchangeable for creating different figures. Won't be able to comment on more unless I start snipping the bits and seeing how they fit, but that is a project for another day. However, I can see the 3D lines on the capes for these guys, and hopefully a good base coat will keep the slight roughness to this from impacting the rest of the painting.
Anyway, I'm excited about starting these figures, but really need to be patient before it gets going.
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Can't help but start thinking about these dudes ...
I basically got enough figures for maybe 4 units, if I use Dragon Rampant as my basis for numbers ... 6 cav, 12 spears, 12 bows, 6 swords. Also have a leader on horse, another on foot, and a wizard.
Starting to consider how the shields will go with the figures, and how the figures will be painted. I'm feeling the urge to buy more boxes and shields again, but thinking I might try to finish these first!
(GP ... that'd be a change for ya.)
Don't rub it in. :icon_wink:
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Can't help but start thinking about these dudes ...
I basically got enough figures for maybe 4 units, if I use Dragon Rampant as my basis for numbers ... 6 cav, 12 spears, 12 bows, 6 swords. Also have a leader on horse, another on foot, and a wizard.
Starting to consider how the shields will go with the figures, and how the figures will be painted. I'm feeling the urge to buy more boxes and shields again, but thinking I might try to finish these first!
(GP ... that'd be a change for ya.)
Don't rub it in. :icon_wink:
Its not like anyone would bring up 6 mounted crossbow men, is there? 😺
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Didn't know they had any I could order. :icon_wink:
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Here's the plan so far ...
12 Bowmen ... Wissenland colors with touch of blue ... bear shields.
12 Spearmen ... Stirland colors, with touch of purple ... tree shields.
6 swordsmen ... not sure yet ... wolf shields.
6 cavalry ... Matorean colors (orange and blue with touch of white) ... dragon shields.
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I have checked my resin figures and there are lines or striations horizontally, mainly across some of the cloak areas.
The original casts were made from a 3D print of the model - so they all probably exhibit the same faults.
Some are fairly easy to see straightaway, others you do have to hold the pieces at an angle to catch the light. Not sure how they would show up if you add paint.
It will be interesting to see if there is any reaction from Fireforge anywhere?
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I have checked my resin figures and there are lines or striations horizontally, mainly across some of the cloak areas.
The original casts were made from a 3D print of the model - so they all probably exhibit the same faults.
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It will be interesting to see if there is any reaction from Fireforge anywhere?
Complaints about the quality of the resin figures are fairly common. I haven't seen Fireforge react to them in anyway.
Fireforge HAS gotten better in communicating. They seemed to have a steep language barrier before. Maybe they hired somebody, or learned to fix the typical mistakes that automatic Italian-English translation causes?
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I'm going to be working towards completing the plastic spearmen first. Not sure when I'm going to do the resin leaders yet, and not sure I'm thrilled about some of the rough surfaces. These are the only three figures I received that are resin, and it will be interesting to see if these ever get released beyond the kickstarter. Perhaps they'll redo them in plastic of metal?
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Still waiting
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Still waiting
... ... and you're on the same landmass. :engel:
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Apparently the Folk Rabble sprues have been made for those who've ordered them.