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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7800 on: November 24, 2014, 02:05:41 AM »
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7801 on: November 24, 2014, 08:00:50 AM »
Lets not pretend Dragon Age's voice actors and interactions is note worthy. 

It's not? Which RPG does it better?

VtM: Bloodlines and Deus Ex come to mind. Awesome games and I highly recommned them.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7802 on: November 24, 2014, 08:07:41 AM »
Okay, those are both favorites of mine as well. Neither has a party though!

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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7803 on: November 24, 2014, 08:30:24 AM »
Okay, those are both favorites of mine as well. Neither has a party though!

VtM: Bloodlines on mods allows you to create new Kindred. Also you can always play VtM: Redemption, altough it's more a hack n'slash than an RPG.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7804 on: November 24, 2014, 08:58:12 AM »
Never played the original Deus Ex but this comes to mind.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vVF-Hvykg

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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7805 on: November 24, 2014, 09:12:18 AM »
Never played the original Deus Ex but this comes to mind.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vVF-Hvykg

Wut a sham. Altough you've forgot about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gb0bu2vsuA
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7806 on: November 24, 2014, 09:38:53 AM »
In an rpg?  Probably none, but Dragon Age simply carried the same standard Bioware style to a fantasy setting, with the same canned approach.  There was no moving bit of acting, just a branching storyline of choice without much emotion.  There was nothing groundbreaking. 

I dunno. I think Dragon Age: Origins actually was pretty special in this regard. And it most certainly was not standard Bioware style, if what you mean by that is something like Mass Effect. The conversation trees were of greater complexity by many factors, and the results of those also accordingly more complex. To the point that when I did finally get around to playing Mass Effect, these much-lauded elements of choice were a profound disappointment (the simple binary-scale Paragon/Renegade thing is mindlessly simple in comparison).

Certainly, it could have been implemented in such a way that it impacted the story more heavily, but I think there was a very significant way in which DA:O adapted the concept of the "Player Character" so that it expanded to include the Party, rather than simply adding a bunch of more-or-less stock goons to your squad (or, at the very least, allowed a degree of player defined/determined empathy with those goons that was previously a very rare beast.

I'm also wary of the lionisation of particular games on specious/exaggerated grounds (Mass Effect...), but I think there were definitely ways in which DA:O was qualitatively different from almost everything in its context that, when I read Philly's quote above, I just don't even know what he's talking about.

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In other news, this guy is bullshit.  I think.  At least I like crafting in games.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/11/23/dragon-age-inquisition-and-the-problem-with-roleplaying-games/

...and I actually agree with this guy almost all of the time. Right down to the weird Dark Souls obsession. Just last week I went on a binge of reading about 20 of his articles one after the other. I'm a "casual" gamer, at best, but I do think it probably comes down to what I want to get out of games and, more importantly, the way I engage - on a "meta" level - with those things while I play. And this is all, of course, something subjective, and something that changes over time. As an example, I recently had a hankering for some MMO action. So I signed back into WoW. Then I tried Rift. And Aion. And after a while realised that I actually just fucking HATE MMOs. Everything about the way the game itself is structured, the story-reward system, everything, is utterly uninteresting to me. Which it certainly wasn't 5 years ago.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7807 on: November 24, 2014, 09:53:09 AM »
Speaking of MMO's. I used to play a lot of Guild Wars and I kinda hate what they did with Guild Wars 2. The first Guild Wars had one of the best skill systems I have seen in a MMO, it had thousands of different skills that you could meld into all sorts of synergies and they just kinda threw all of that away in GW2 for an increadibly barebones skill system.

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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7808 on: November 24, 2014, 11:58:52 AM »
If you play Biowares games from Baldurs Gate all the way to Dragon Age, the patterns are evident.  Baldurs Gate 2 is probably my favorite game they did.  Everything after was a refinement on that style.  I think if you beat those games to death, playing Dragon Age feels like an incremental improvement and likely loses its punch.

I place Deus Ex as a top ten game for me but I wouldn't put the VA work up with DA or MA.  Certainly Bloodlines had good good VA, but not enough interaction.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7809 on: November 24, 2014, 12:47:15 PM »
I just dug up Two Worlds, any good? I never really played the game (I think and if I did it was to long ago and to short to make an impact) and I'm a bit reluctant to go through the entire installation process if the game is not "good" and then removing it again
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7810 on: November 24, 2014, 12:56:54 PM »
I think its meant to be kinda crappy. Other games are more worth playing, like skyrim.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7811 on: November 24, 2014, 01:00:38 PM »
There are better games, but it is certainly not a bad game.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7812 on: November 24, 2014, 01:03:24 PM »
so apply this paradigm

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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7813 on: November 24, 2014, 01:27:37 PM »
just looked up some vids...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogZS6z_EIzs this was a good laugh though didn't give any credits to the game.. :icon_lol:
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7814 on: November 24, 2014, 01:37:45 PM »
just looked up some vids...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogZS6z_EIzs this was a good laugh though didn't give any credits to the game.. :icon_lol:

Eh, it's not THAT bad. Altough comparing it to Skyrim is like comparing a 30+ years old car to the newest Dodge.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7815 on: November 24, 2014, 01:59:02 PM »
If you play Biowares games from Baldurs Gate all the way to Dragon Age, the patterns are evident.  Baldurs Gate 2 is probably my favorite game they did.  Everything after was a refinement on that style.  I think if you beat those games to death, playing Dragon Age feels like an incremental improvement and likely loses its punch.

Well, yeah. Of course patterns are evident. But you can't simply dismiss something simply because the things it evolves, expands upon, and exemplifies have their roots in other games. By that logic, basically any game is dismissable. COD's really just an "incremental refinement" of 007, y'know? Skyrim isn't sooooo far from Rogue, which is basically a sexed-up Zork.

I mean, I DO see your point, but I also disagree that DA:O is 'simply' the same as what they were already doing. Although I haven't played BD2 (I played the original way back, though, and a little Neverwinter Nights). I think there are any number of facets of its implementation that sets it aside from any other games - Bioware or otherwise - prior to, contemporaneous with, or since its release.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7816 on: November 24, 2014, 05:45:14 PM »
So what about opinions on Star Wars The Old Republic F2P?
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« Reply #7817 on: November 24, 2014, 06:00:25 PM »
I expected it sooner. Waiting for Blizzard to do the same to WoW, it's had all the hallmarks of a F2P game for a while now.
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« Reply #7818 on: November 24, 2014, 07:01:35 PM »
I think Elder Scrolls will flip to F2P before long.  I would play it again.  I genuinely enjoyed the main story for that game and the locales were nice.  It just wasn't Elder Scrolls in an online environment.
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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7819 on: November 24, 2014, 08:05:11 PM »
Fact: traditional MMO mechanics ruin everything.
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« Reply #7820 on: November 24, 2014, 09:14:35 PM »
Certainly seems to!
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« Reply #7821 on: November 24, 2014, 09:20:45 PM »
WoW bumped back up to 10 million subscribers, so it's not going F2P any time soon, barring a major drop. They already have cosmetic microtransactions AND make a huge amount on subs, no need to change.

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Re: Gamer thread
« Reply #7822 on: November 24, 2014, 09:38:30 PM »
Some how though they only account for 36% of all MMO players, which blows my mind.  There must be dozens of those Korean MMO's that are skewing the numbers because I can't imagine the other American MMO's really offering my competition.  EVE seems sort of popular, though when I tried to play it I felt like a bug caught under a wind shield.  There are some seriously anal and obsessive players in that game!
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« Reply #7823 on: November 24, 2014, 09:46:01 PM »
Yeah I think they account for well over half of all western mmo players but I'm betting the same as you, Korea.

I really like MMO characteristics IF I have a group of friends with EXACTLY the same commitment as me. Otherwise I agree they're crap.

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« Reply #7824 on: November 24, 2014, 09:47:53 PM »
EVE seems sort of popular, though when I tried to play it I felt like a bug caught under a wind shield.  There are some seriously anal and obsessive players in that game!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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