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Offline Mathi Alfblut

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Re: 40K
« Reply #1125 on: July 04, 2011, 06:37:11 PM »
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1126 on: July 04, 2011, 10:02:16 PM »
I still want grey knights. I just felt compelled to buy the imperial guard book.
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« Reply #1127 on: July 04, 2011, 10:08:01 PM »
I still want grey knights. I just felt compelled to buy the imperial guard book.

This reminds me of shiny new toy syndrome  :icon_wink:.

After you have read the Imperial Guard book, you may decide you prefer them to Grey Knights after all.  If I were forced to play an Imperial army, however, I would opt for the Grey Knights, even before the latest codex was released.
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« Reply #1128 on: July 05, 2011, 03:40:11 AM »
Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought

Looks very ... anime.

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« Reply #1129 on: July 05, 2011, 04:07:28 AM »
So ... sombody clue me in ... from a fluff perspective, why do these grey knights get this advanced stuff, above other space marine chapters?
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« Reply #1130 on: July 05, 2011, 05:58:06 AM »
They are like the bestests of the bestests space marines.

Plus they have all kinds of powers - except against pimped BTs and Hounds.
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« Reply #1131 on: July 05, 2011, 07:59:14 AM »
Well they are the demon police a secret order of Space Marines dedicated to fight Chaos and Chaos only. Wasnīt there a rumour that their geneseed is from the Emperor himself?

I am not that much into the Grey knights fluff but as far as I know they are the super ultra elite strike force going in if a planet is threatened to be demon infested. So actually it would be unfluffy to field them against any other army but Chaos. (well you can always claim that that Guard/Space Marine/Eldar/Tau Commander is possessed and must be stopped before the greater demon breaks out of him).

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« Reply #1132 on: July 05, 2011, 08:14:37 AM »
Well they are the demon police a secret order of Space Marines dedicated to fight Chaos and Chaos only. Wasnīt there a rumour that their geneseed is from the Emperor himself?

I am not that much into the Grey knights fluff but as far as I know they are the super ultra elite strike force going in if a planet is threatened to be demon infested. So actually it would be unfluffy to field them against any other army but Chaos. (well you can always claim that that Guard/Space Marine/Eldar/Tau Commander is possessed and must be stopped before the greater demon breaks out of him).

Also, they live on Mars.

You should read the Grey Knights novel from the Black Library, Fandir, it's actually a good one.
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« Reply #1133 on: July 05, 2011, 08:21:14 AM »
I think that even the people of Impirial guard don t know of their existance, and after a battle that both the guardsmen and the grey knights  fight together, the guardsmen are slaughtered so noone will ever know the grey knights apiarence.  They probably do that to protect their fortress or something from being revieled.

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Re: 40K
« Reply #1134 on: July 05, 2011, 08:48:57 AM »
Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought

Looks very ... anime.


Aren't those Megatron's legs?



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« Reply #1135 on: July 05, 2011, 09:53:40 AM »
Aren't those Megatron's legs?

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« Reply #1136 on: July 05, 2011, 09:57:03 AM »
I hate that dreadnaught.
I don't care about the rules.

Pass the machete.

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« Reply #1137 on: July 05, 2011, 10:07:02 AM »
Also, they live on Mars.

Nope, on Titan, one of the Saturn moons. Mars is the home and primary forgeworld of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

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« Reply #1138 on: July 05, 2011, 10:20:19 AM »
I think that dreadnought is rather nice he looks more agile than the sacrophagus big chunky metal dreads the space marines use now.

I also like the Manga look of the TAU army though so I might disqualify myself.

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« Reply #1139 on: July 05, 2011, 10:31:04 AM »
It's supposed to be an older design from when humanity viewed science as science and not as another religion, so it's not a surprise it's closer to the Tau aesthetic. I like it in the context of its background, but agree it's out of place in a "modern" space marine force. Astral Claw colour scheme and iconography are awesome though. The current forgeworld stuff is really good, love the Badab war models.

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« Reply #1140 on: July 05, 2011, 10:31:52 AM »
I like the Tau manga style.

I hate the manga style on space marines.
I don't care about the rules.

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« Reply #1141 on: July 05, 2011, 11:13:11 AM »
I think space marines are pretty mangaish in the first place large shoulderpads and we donīt need a helmet for our battle suit.

Yet I love the concept of Angry marines

http://www.vertigo.ripvanfish.com/umad/src/1287289421073.jpg

especially with afro

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15083746/images/1306614339011.jpg

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7423974/images/1262637251749.jpg

and their launcher

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp147/s0693098/angrymarinelauncher.jpg

As manga as marines can get. (and I love it)

Well only ones more Mangaish must be the pretty marines

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/101/4/6/Pretty_Marines_II_by_Jaekyu.jpg
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1142 on: July 05, 2011, 11:57:49 AM »
The angry marines are da best!  :icon_mrgreen:
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« Reply #1143 on: July 05, 2011, 11:58:20 AM »
They are like the bestests of the bestests space marines.

Plus they have all kinds of powers - except against pimped BTs and Hounds.
Ok, yet what does the fluff say about why they are so special?

Well they are the demon police a secret order of Space Marines dedicated to fight Chaos and Chaos only. Wasnīt there a rumour that their geneseed is from the Emperor himself?

I am not that much into the Grey knights fluff but as far as I know they are the super ultra elite strike force going in if a planet is threatened to be demon infested. So actually it would be unfluffy to field them against any other army but Chaos. (well you can always claim that that Guard/Space Marine/Eldar/Tau Commander is possessed and must be stopped before the greater demon breaks out of him).
So its seems they get to test out advanced technology with the look of their figures?  Or wasn't that suppose to be the Mentors?  Maybe the Grey Knights technology gives them special powers against demons and chaos only?  I suppose that woudl include Chaos space marines?  Do the rules reflect any of this or instead they can beat up on anybody?
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1144 on: July 05, 2011, 12:00:20 PM »
I think that even the people of Impirial guard don t know of their existance, and after a battle that both the guardsmen and the grey knights  fight together, the guardsmen are slaughtered so noone will ever know the grey knights apiarence.  They probably do that to protect their fortress or something from being revieled.
Hmmm ... so why can no one know of their existence?  They only show up to face the demons of 40K, take them out, if they can, and no one knows?
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1145 on: July 05, 2011, 12:13:37 PM »
GP....

I dont know where to start.

Okay.
Grey knights are elite space marines. They dont have a home world for recruiting. Their recruits are all psychic and only one in a thousand make it through the training.
They have super weapons because of their task and their training. Their minds are inpenetrable by chaos, so they are very valuable to the Imperium. Which is why they get the nice weapons.

Like already mentioned, the Grey knights book, and the other two in the omnibus really give a good insight of how they work. They also show that chaos and daemons can be anywhere so there is ample opportunity for the grey knights to meet evil guardsmen or eldar or whatever.
Also the daemonhunters codex actually had two pages of reasons for why the daemon hunters should be fighting every race, a nice detail.
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« Reply #1146 on: July 05, 2011, 12:18:26 PM »
Suppose that makes sense, with them being specially in tune even before they get the special equiptment.
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Re: 40K
« Reply #1147 on: July 05, 2011, 12:44:15 PM »
I like the Tau manga style.

I hate the manga style on space marines.
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« Reply #1148 on: July 05, 2011, 03:01:42 PM »
Agreed too, but Angry Marines are more than Manga, they are just Angry and Awesome.

But otherwise I agree that the Manga influence should be kept with the Tau because that is their thing and what makes them different.
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« Reply #1149 on: July 05, 2011, 10:51:35 PM »
Also, they live on Mars.

Nope, on Titan, one of the Saturn moons. Mars is the home and primary forgeworld of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

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