Author Topic: 40K (Read 305430 times)

Sig · « **Reply #2250 on:** October 08, 2011, 10:49:28 PM »

Get a cheap AoBR dread, and whack the guns from the Aegis defense line on him. Very cheap solution.

Finlay · « **Reply #2251 on:** October 09, 2011, 12:17:16 AM »

80 points for a devilfish, with no fire points.

Harsh.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #2252 on:** October 09, 2011, 08:27:10 AM »

Quote from: McKnight on October 08, 2011, 02:56:35 PM

1 Paladin Squad (Elites) @ 75 Pts
; Nem Warding Staff; Stormbolter (x1);

What is this guy for? Holding people up in combat by refusing to die? He doesn't seem very useful.

McKnight · « **Reply #2253 on:** October 09, 2011, 08:51:03 AM »

Excactly Rufus! Oh and remember he has holocaust, so he can deepstrike and put down a pie. Plus the Grandmaster can make him scoring.

I had 75pts to spare and well, this is where the grey knight codex fails. You cant realy get anything usefull for under 100 points.

Maybe I should get some melta hencmen instead? But then I have 33 pts to spare, which I cant really spend...

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #2254 on:** October 09, 2011, 09:02:59 AM »

Quote from: McKnight on October 09, 2011, 08:51:03 AM

this is where the grey knight codex fails. You cant realy get anything usefull for under 100 points.

That's true! Maybe lone paladin guy is worth a go then.

That list looks very low on numbers to me. It will be interesting to hear how you do at the tournament!

McKnight · « **Reply #2255 on:** October 09, 2011, 09:20:21 AM »

Well I dumped him!

I added 3 servo skulls, 3 melta henchmen and a psycannon for the grandmaster. And the crusader got the boot, because of room problems.

I updated the list..
But i feel like im lacking some long range shooting.

phillyt · « **Reply #2256 on:** October 09, 2011, 01:34:21 PM »

Quote from: Finlay on October 09, 2011, 12:17:16 AM

80 points for a devilfish, with no fire points.

Harsh.

SO fast and pretty tough though. Devilfish are a nice little transport.

patsy02 · « **Reply #2257 on:** October 09, 2011, 04:45:12 PM »

The servo skull is such a great concept. It's like an astromech droid, only grim and dark and in the future.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #2258 on:** October 09, 2011, 05:12:57 PM »

Quote from: PhillyT on October 09, 2011, 01:34:21 PM

SO fast and pretty tough though. Devilfish are a nice little transport.

But they aren't fast vehicles. Just skimmers.

They would be cheaper if the Tau book wasn't a million years old.

Quote from: McKnight

But i feel like im lacking some long range shooting.

It's a grey knights list! Deal with it!

Doesn't the grandmaster's psycannon cost about 40 points? Expensive!

Aldaris · « **Reply #2259 on:** October 09, 2011, 05:36:16 PM »

Quote from: rufus sparkfire on October 09, 2011, 05:12:57 PM

Doesn't the grandmaster's psycannon cost about 40 points? Expensive!

Yeah, but consider how good it is on him - he's wearing terminator armor so he can fire the thing as if he were stationary even when he moves, and he's got a very good BS.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #2260 on:** October 09, 2011, 06:08:23 PM »

I don't like to spend that many points on a character. I object to 100 for cortez!

If I were to use a grandmaster, I think I'd take all the special grenades. Blind, rad and psykotroke.

McKnight · « **Reply #2261 on:** October 09, 2011, 07:30:38 PM »

Oh yes blind grenades.... damn, i need to find 5 points now.

The psycannon sure is expensive, but as i said earlier, 40 or so points can't really be used in the codex. It sucks.

phillyt · « **Reply #2262 on:** October 09, 2011, 07:45:53 PM »

Quote from: rufus sparkfire on October 09, 2011, 05:12:57 PM

Quote from: PhillyT on October 09, 2011, 01:34:21 PM
SO fast and pretty tough though. Devilfish are a nice little transport.

But they aren't fast vehicles. Just skimmers.

They would be cheaper if the Tau book wasn't a million years old.

Probably, but they are quite tough for a transport and the skimmer ability protects them from ramming and allows them to avoid dangerous terrain tests. I love them.

Finlay · « **Reply #2263 on:** October 09, 2011, 08:17:51 PM »

Yet both you and aldaris have never lost to tau.

Everything in the whole bookt is too expensive!

And they have special items for target priority tests.

phillyt · « **Reply #2264 on:** October 09, 2011, 08:21:01 PM »

You do make a good point.

Aldaris · « **Reply #2265 on:** October 09, 2011, 08:36:32 PM »

To be honest, I played 'em only 2 or 3 times. But that was all with Chaos (which isn't considered a very strong 'dex itself) and I always totally clobbered them. The player was not very good though, so I have no idea what they could do in skilled hands, with a good list.

Shadowlord · « **Reply #2266 on:** October 09, 2011, 09:35:24 PM »

Quote from: Aldaris on October 09, 2011, 08:36:32 PM

so I have no idea what they could do in skilled hands, with a good list.

You don't? Aren't you a friend of uber-player God Fandir?

phillyt · « **Reply #2267 on:** October 09, 2011, 09:59:27 PM »

I beat the hell out of them with Black Templar and Orks, both armies are right in their bad matchup zone. Super in close combat with the ability to drop ferocious firepower.

Aldaris · « **Reply #2268 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:04:40 PM »

Quote from: Shadowlord on October 09, 2011, 09:35:24 PM

You don't? Aren't you a friend of uber-player God Fandir?

He is a deity of many things, but Tau are beyond his power.

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #2269 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:05:39 PM »

Quote from: PhillyT on October 09, 2011, 07:45:53 PM

ramming

Uh oh, do people actually use the ramming rules? I thought they might never come up, so haven't bothered to read them. Like with tank shock.

Aldaris · « **Reply #2270 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:08:43 PM »

Oh yes. Read them. Many players don't use those very much, but both ramming and tankshocking can be really, really effective.

consider, for example, what a simple Dark Eldar Raider with a ramming prow and those 36" of movement can do...

rufus sparkfire · « **Reply #2271 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:11:35 PM »

Tank shocking is where you try to run someone over, but they get out of the way. Right?

It never worked in command and conquer either.

Quote from: Aldaris on October 09, 2011, 10:08:43 PM

consider, for example, what a simple Dark Eldar Raider with a ramming prow and those 36" of movement can do...

Not playing them, don't care!

Aldaris · « **Reply #2272 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:14:10 PM »

Quote from: rufus sparkfire on October 09, 2011, 10:11:35 PM

Tank shocking is where you try to run someone over, but they get out of the way. Right?

Yes. And they make a Ld test if they aren't fearless. If they fail, they flee. You can tankshock a unit several times. If you have an empty Rhino, drive it at something. It's always nice when a squad of devastators just runs off the table.

phillyt · « **Reply #2273 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:32:17 PM »

All of my battle wagons have deff rollas. Enemy vehicles get rammed with a AV14 vehicle and take an additional 1d6 S10 hits. Really very nasty. That's the best way for Orks to take out tough vehicles.

Aldaris: I often tankshock my way through units to ram vehicles. People end up tank shcoking me too, since orks often disgorge from vehicles and assault in hth against transports and the like.

Cannonofdoom · « **Reply #2274 on:** October 09, 2011, 10:35:04 PM »

I rammed a Valkyrie (that had not moved) with an empty rhino once. I don't know if that was legal, but my opponent said I could do it. I had visions of Die Hard 5 when Bruce Willis "Killed a helicopter with a car".

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