Topic: Product for IG with Killteam?

[Syphon]

Did the IG ever get an official Kill Team product?

[Gankom]

Not really. They got a commander box with special rules, but its the same Commissar model that comes in the current start collecting box.

[Feanor Fire Heart]

I know of some way better 3rd party commissar models than that one if anyone is interested. No offense to anyone that likes the grizzled GW one in current production.

[Gankom]

Its not my favorite thats for sure. I'd love to see your recs feanor. I have enough of this guy as is.

[Feanor Fire Heart]

Artel W has some lovely ones including a chaos one if you're doing a chaos themed IG army, a couple of Raivel alternatives, and Ciaphas Cain himself.

https://artelw.com/Blood-Gauptman-of-Crimson-Legion-p171213332


https://artelw.com/Heroic-Commissar-2-0-p98213425


https://artelw.com/Commissar-Raivel-Heart-of-Darkness-edition-p111863093


https://artelw.com/Commissar-Raivel-p98213473


https://artelw.com/Einherjar%60s-Commander-p273699001


Wargame Exclusive has a nice male one and a few female ones that are a bit pin-up-ish with full pin-up as an option. They also have alternative heads you can get and put on commander models to make your own commissar.
https://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-soldiers/


Anvil Industry has some nice ones too, including a pin-up Cain like model that would fit in with some Catachans.
https://anvilindustry.co.uk/regiments-character-models#/pageSize=6&viewMode=grid&orderBy=0


Victoria Miniatures is just a wonderful place for IG players in general as they have plastic male and female models for the armies GW doesn't give any love too any more (Tallaran, Mordian, Valhallan, old Cadians, etc). They also have a nice Female Commissar that looks like old GW's style:
https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/character-miniatures/products/female-commisar


There are a few others out there that I'm just blanking on, but all these sites have wonderful alternative models to help spice up your existing armies (whether IG, Space Marines, Sororitas, Eldar, etc).

[GamesPoet]

Not really. They got a commander box with special rules, but its the same Commissar model that comes in the current start collecting box.

Are the special rules for the commissar only?

[Gankom]

I believe so GP. I never got it honestly, Commissars are probably my least interested in HQ choice and I prefer the brand of Kill Team that doesnt do Commanders so I never really looked into it.

@Feanor, I knew you were going to suggest Artel. I actually have the one with the power axe. Great ascetic imo.

[GamesPoet]

My hunch is GW might be waiting on IG.  If I recall there was something about Cadia being under threat in the fluff, and this the idea there hasn't been a focus on IG for Killteam yet, plus 9th edition being released last year, these kinds of things lead me to believe that perhaps there will be a focus on IG once they get to having a new codex and figure released.

[Gankom]

If I recall there was something about Cadia being under threat in the fluff

Uh, ya thats putting it somewhat lightly. Cadia has been fully destroyed and whats left of the system routed. There is in universe talk of a crusade to try and reclaim the destroyed rubble as a symbolic victory, or at least attempt to secure the system, but it hasnt been going well. Whats left of the Cadian forces have been scattered across the galaxy.

[GamesPoet]

A way to for GW to move in a different direction with IG perhaps.

I did pick up a Start Collecting IG box recently, a decent value, plus I always wanted to model some of their units.  I suspect for those who like the look, these boxes might be available for awhile longer, but if a new IG focus happens, then bye bye to some of the Cadian models.

[Syphon]

A way to for GW to move in a different direction with IG perhaps.

Yeah, probably. The vast majority of armies that I saw were usually based on Cadian models. If you want to move away from that being the principal model for whatever reason, you have to get rid of the source of those models. Blowing up Cadia does the trick.

One store employee (not GW but a independent stockist), a good friend of mine, told me that KT might nt be the format for IG, as they ae basically the cannon fodder army of choice. Still, that makes it odd that there are Tyranid KT boxes. I can't really reconcile the two facts.

[GamesPoet]

My sense is that it isn't a coincidence that Bretonnia, Empire, and IG have not had much happening from GW.  These are straight human armies and that isn't the direction GW's imagination has gone.  Instead other armies have seen more focus, including having changes to their look, new units added, new armies have even been dreamt up too.

[Jmash]

A way to for GW to move in a different direction with IG perhaps.

The way that GW's 'different directions' have gone in recent times, this worries me!

I'm not sure how they'd manage to re-vamp IG but still maintain a sort of generic look that can suit many different types of army. The Cadians are great for that because they're so versatile, they just need an updated set!

I terms of Killteam I don't play but I would reckon if they made an IG team it'd have to go down the route of being a bit more of a focussed squad structure, having a few specialists and strong use of tactics rather than the 'meat for the grinder' approach! Maybe an IG SAS of sorts. Either that or they'd choose the Tempestus Scions *ahem Stormtroopers ahem* route?

One thing I have noted with the TS Hot Shot Volley gun and the Primaris SM auto-boltgun option is that there seems to be a move towards automatic weapons that I assume are good at pinning your enemy under suppressive fire. I wonder if the future holds an IG man-portable weapon for suppressive fire that isn't just a grenade launcher or a HW team... hmm...

[GamesPoet]

Cadian figure versatility might be part of the issue with using imagination to come up with another one as versatile, although perhaps they'll be taking a different approach with IG.  The current IG codex has different stats for Cadians as opposed to Catachans, Mordians, Valahans, etc.

So maybe the Cadians are on the way out, along with all the other types that have been, while something else rises to the surface.  It's about selling new minis of course.

[Syphon]

They did have the scions of wotsit from whosthere on idontcare. They were meant to be kasrkin on crack but they got a bigger line than the kasrkin ever did. I hated the models for the infantry, though that Taurox was pretty sweet.

[GamesPoet]

I just sent away for a "Start Collecting" Scion set.

[Gankom]

He's been infected by the 40k bug! Welcome to the fold.

[Syphon]

I remember now why I like Artel W's chaos commissar!

I don't remember what sourcebook it's from, but here's an awesome bit of a seer from WHFB seeing the future of 40K.

The Bloodkin

In The Most Holy Crusade for Sabbat, in the Fight for the Gap, the merchant clans of Illyornis, after years of heavy tithing, will finally snap and revolt. The suppression of this uprising will be famous in the histories of Imperia. The insurgent armies, constituting a great number of men, will seize the governor's palace, the cargo docks and curtain wall defences of the city, casting out all Imperia's officials and thereafter declaring their independence from fair Imperia. Only the Arbitrators stationed there will show any resistance at all, and while they will fight to the last, they will be only a few hundred against a host.
     The High Command of the Gap Crusade cannot ignore such a loss of his supplies, and thus he will reroute a detachment of the Crusade to quell the rebels. The force will consist of several regiments of Qxyr Stalkers, feral tribesmen who have been recruited into the Holy Guard and who will survive, mainly through unparalleled brutality upon the field, much of the worst of the Gap Crusade. The defenders of Illyornis will prove little match for these hardened and battle-seasoned soldiers, and with lightning strikes the Guard generals will bring the rebels to their knees in a matter of days with a minimum loss of life and resources. Detachments of Stalkers will be positioned around the city to disarm and hold the rebel forces, while the Holy Guard's commander, General Vincencious Polsch, will graciously accept the Illyornians' formal surrender.
     But this is not the end of my foretelling.
It will be at this very ceremony that Commissar Kline, attached to the Qxyr regiments, will step forward and declare the acceptance of the surrender to be heresy of the highest order. With ruthless and swift efficiency he will summarily execute Polsch and his staff and assume command, wherein he will decree that the rebel forces should be utterly annihilated. The Stalkers around the city will obey with great fervour, flooding the Illyornians in their own prisons or simply dragging them from their cells and beheading them with their Qxyrian ritual battle swords. Such is the danger if you swell the ranks of your army with such barbaric savages.
     It will become apparent that the Qxyrian faith, which will have been previously sanctioned as a bloody but beneficial worship of The Golden Emperor, will in fact be something dar darker. Kline, assigned to ensure their loyalty, will be tainted himself, but how this happens I cannot fathom.
Kline and the Qxyrian regiments will leave the shattered Illyornis before news of this treachery can reach the Crusade fleets. They will remain at large, and call themselves The Bloodkin, and much destruction will be brought by their swift and deadly strikes.

Funnily enough, the first thread you find when you search for "Commissar Kline" is my thread on this very same army over on an IG forum.