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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1225 on: November 18, 2009, 06:16:38 PM »
That axe is not in the current box, and the thing on the gor's left hip is not on the models.

Aldaris:  In America, Herds are $35.  The new boxes would be $22.  Still a little more, but you aren't locked into getting heaps of gor when you want ungor, and visa versa.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1226 on: November 18, 2009, 06:36:19 PM »
Maybe, but in pounds prices (which I'll propably pay because buying models from online shops in the UK is significantly cheaper than Euro prices) that is still a price hike of over 60% per model. That may not be as significant for someone like you who already has a load of the buggers and just wants some fleshing out here and there, but for me who'd be starting from scratch it is pretty prohibitive.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1227 on: November 18, 2009, 08:50:34 PM »
My math indicates that it is only a 33% per model cost.

Still sucks though.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1228 on: November 18, 2009, 09:17:33 PM »
It sucks majorly. And I donīt see the reason. It will mean people, besides mighty Shadowlord, will only be able to build up their forces very slowly and this may be enough to make people bored. Itīs plain stoopid.

Sure makes me think twice about starting any new army.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1229 on: November 18, 2009, 09:18:16 PM »
12 gors and 8 ungors for 18 = about 0.9 per model
10 gors for 15 =  1.5 per model.

Increase of about 60 percent.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1230 on: November 18, 2009, 10:10:41 PM »
My math beats your math! :biggriin:

But my ass is still Phat!

About the new prices... Seriously, how can you be surprised?

Empire and Skaven were hints enough I would think.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1231 on: November 18, 2009, 10:20:28 PM »
*Shouts towards the kitchen

One pumbagor ordered!

Now, do you prefer it bloody or well done?
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1232 on: November 19, 2009, 12:52:18 AM »
Danny and Toro insist on bloody...
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1233 on: November 19, 2009, 02:58:42 AM »
My math says 20 models for $35 is $1.75 per model
10 models for $22 is $2.20.

Thats less than a 33% increase.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1234 on: November 19, 2009, 03:17:30 AM »
EDIT: Just realized Aldaris was talking in pounds. Stoopid me.
EDIT2: My brain needs to start working. My math fails.

15.00 GBP = 25.0539 USD

18.00 GBP = 30.0646 USD

30.0646/20 ~ $1.5/model
25.0539/10 ~$2.5/model

So that's a 67% price increase...
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1235 on: November 19, 2009, 04:42:53 AM »
Whats the thing about having big belly and gut plates now?  The cover looks like small ogres with strange heads.  Is that a Beastman giant in the background, again with the gutplate.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1236 on: November 19, 2009, 12:16:33 PM »
The info I saw says the new boxes will be the price of the state troops etc.  Thgat would put them at $22.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1237 on: November 19, 2009, 12:29:52 PM »
Whats the thing about having big belly and gut plates now?  The cover looks like small ogres with strange heads.  Is that a Beastman giant in the background, again with the gutplate.

That's what I meant with my earlier remark.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1238 on: November 19, 2009, 12:39:04 PM »
I think it is a minotaur.  The gut plates are common in the army and existed on the models long before the ogres were produced.

I refer to them as "The WWF Championship Belt" on most of thye models which have them.  My beastmen like to wrestle.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1239 on: November 19, 2009, 12:40:59 PM »
Why should the Warhammer World be exempt from fashion patterns?

Beasts have probably noticed that the gut plates look fancy on ogres. So they got some for themselves, because everybody knows ogres are the trendsetters in WHFB. Remember that period three years ago when all the High Elves ate like pigs to become as fat as possible? All because of them ogres.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1240 on: November 19, 2009, 12:46:09 PM »
They did look silly with their little chainmail dresses all sticking out in awkward places.

The thing is, the Beastmen had the gutplates first, but nobody noticed because they were coated in dung and sexy juice.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1241 on: November 19, 2009, 01:37:38 PM »
Guys I come to this forum for it's community and to read helpful warhammer threads after work (I get to say that now).

Instead I have to read numbers and equations and all sorts of mumbo jumbo, the things I visit this forum to escape from!

I ask ever so politely that we talk about how cool the beast hero models are and that I hope they don't get rid of them (although the regular 2 plastic hero box could be awesome as well).

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1242 on: November 19, 2009, 01:39:57 PM »
Whats the thing about having big belly and gut plates now?  The cover looks like small ogres with strange heads.  Is that a Beastman giant in the background, again with the gutplate.

That's what I meant with my earlier remark.

Sorry there's 50 pages of this nonsense now, I only read the last few posts.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1243 on: November 19, 2009, 02:34:47 PM »
I ask ever so politely that we talk about how cool the beast hero models are and that I hope they don't get rid of them (although the regular 2 plastic hero box could be awesome as well).

They havn't made those plastic kits since HE.

The current heroes are good, but we are getting two more and a pair of shamans (finally!)

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1244 on: November 19, 2009, 04:53:11 PM »
Sorry there's 50 pages of this nonsense now, I only read the last few posts.

I object!

This thread has been pretty cohesive and on topic for at least most of it's 50 pages  :-P.

At least, it seems so when I compare it to the skaven thread which I tried to trawl through the other day.  :icon_twisted:

Can't wait for the new shamans. The ones we have are so yawn inducing.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1245 on: November 19, 2009, 05:51:59 PM »
This is the thing they are basing the GOrgon off.  I guess itisn't just D&D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catoblepas

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1246 on: November 19, 2009, 06:00:07 PM »
Hm, maybe I should change my nickname?

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1247 on: November 20, 2009, 12:29:16 PM »
No, you came first.

Some really big news starting to come out:

The bestigor and Minotaur models are not super great according to Hastings and Harry.  I'll wait to see.  They both think they are better than the current ones though.

Ungor can be fielded seperately with the following options: spears, hand weapons,and shortbows.

Ungor can be added to gor untis like skink can to kroxigor units, apparantly.  Not sure how much I buy into this, but it appears to be the case given the ability to field seperate herds.

The gor and ungor have gotten TOTALLY NEW SCULPTS.  They look almost the same, so I have no idea why they bothered...

And they did raise the price to $25 for 10 gor or ungor.

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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1248 on: November 20, 2009, 01:29:26 PM »
WHAT!!! :icon_eek:
25 dollars for 10 gors or ungors. For fething core troops! I belive GW are going insane now. Truly insane. That sort of put the final nail in the coffin om my Beastmen dreams.
I think I start scraping together Tomb kings stuff now, before their books come out and they skyrocket their prices aswell.
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Re: Minotaurs (The Beasts are Back!!)
« Reply #1249 on: November 20, 2009, 01:41:50 PM »

And they did raise the price to $25 for 10 gor or ungor.


All of a sudden my interest in Perry and Warlord and Ģ15 buying you 36 plastic minis is seeming to be oh so sensible .............

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I can get Metal Perry Sculpts for Ģ1.00 each, or GW Gors for Ģ2.50 each?

OOH difficult one ............... 
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