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« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2012, 01:20:21 PM »
Surely it's only illegal to take a copy of one of their twin tailed comets and produce goods with that logo. I'd struggle to believe a band couldn't put an image of a twin tailed comet on an album cover just because GW have a TM. Surely if you designed your own twin tailed comet it would be fine.
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« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2012, 02:27:57 PM »
Surely it's only illegal to take a copy of one of their twin tailed comets and produce goods with that logo. I'd struggle to believe a band couldn't put an image of a twin tailed comet on an album cover just because GW have a TM. Surely if you designed your own twin tailed comet it would be fine.
Probably not legal.

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« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2012, 04:28:30 PM »
So to be clear :


Anything copyrighted by GW cannot be sold through this site. Even if you're not making a profit. What you do privately is up to you.

Well if I can't have twin-tailed comets on my dice, I'm taking all my toys and going home!  :x
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« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2012, 04:30:46 PM »
This site has always stayed on the safe side of GW copyright, and will continue to do so.


Again, what you all do PRIVATELY is beyond our control and entirely up to you.
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Re: empire dice
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2012, 05:56:34 PM »
Surely it's only illegal to take a copy of one of their twin tailed comets and produce goods with that logo. I'd struggle to believe a band couldn't put an image of a twin tailed comet on an album cover just because GW have a TM. Surely if you designed your own twin tailed comet it would be fine.

Agreed, generic images such as that can't possibly be covered, likewise for example the Ultramarine symbol, the Black Templar Symbol, even the Hammer of Sigmar is designed like many historical Warhammers, these kind of images have been around for hundreds of years.

It's likely that its a specific image that is copyrighted, for example if you were to lift this comet symbol from the life of sigmar book (see below) it would possibly breach copyright, but drawing your own twin tailed comet can no more breach copyright than drawing your own symbol of the Sun.

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Re: empire dice
« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2012, 06:23:36 PM »
Lustria order is 8-10 weeks for delivery.  I am going to work on doing something on my own, completely unaffiliated with this forum so that I can make sure to have my dice by Adepticon.  If anyone is interested PM me.  I will wait a week or two before ordering.

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« Reply #56 on: November 28, 2012, 06:47:26 PM »
My suggestion for colours would be white/black pips all round, and the solid colours for the provinces;

Red
Yellow
Blue
Green
White

That way, people could mix these colours to get the province they wanted.  For example, as a Talabecland fan, I could get the red and yellow.  Simple.  Reikland, get the red and white.  etc....

As for organizing this privately, any volunteers?  I am sure there would be interest.
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« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2012, 07:31:15 PM »
I think twin-tailed comets exist IRL. As far as I know, companies can't copyright actual celestial phenomenons yet.
I agree with the inhumane treatment of animals.

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« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2012, 08:58:19 PM »
I think twin-tailed comets exist IRL. As far as I know, companies can't copyright actual celestial phenomenons yet.

Here's a few.

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« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2012, 09:08:09 PM »
Careful with that shit, GW's lawyers might confiscate your HDD.
I agree with the inhumane treatment of animals.

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« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2012, 09:53:47 PM »
As far as I know, companies can't copyright actual celestial phenomenons yet.
No, but they can copyright the twin-tailed comet design that was shown upthread.

I sent GW an email asking about obtaining a license for a limited run of dice.  We'll see what they say.

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« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2012, 10:08:45 PM »
They will either not respond or have one of the friendly lawyers we spoke too respond!

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« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2012, 10:14:12 PM »
They will either not respond or have one of the friendly lawyers we spoke too respond!
Yes, I expect one of those two scenarios.

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Re: empire dice
« Reply #63 on: November 28, 2012, 11:50:22 PM »
I say just edit the symbol a bit. It's not impossible to come up with a twin-tailed comet that evokes the Empire without actually looking like something GW produces.

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« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2012, 01:23:53 AM »
I say just edit the symbol a bit. It's not impossible to come up with a twin-tailed comet that evokes the Empire without actually looking like something GW produces.
+1

The twin tailed comet is not an original thought, strictly GW.  Just modify the art a bit, bam, done.

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« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2012, 02:20:32 AM »
I say just edit the symbol a bit. It's not impossible to come up with a twin-tailed comet that evokes the Empire without actually looking like something GW produces.
+1

The twin tailed comet is not an original thought, strictly GW.  Just modify the art a bit, bam, done.

Which has already been done, so golden?

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« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2012, 07:44:30 PM »
As for organizing this privately, any volunteers?  I am sure there would be interest.

That'd be me.  Already talking to Chessex.  They are low on stock right now and won't be restocked til early Jan.   PM me.

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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2012, 05:28:47 PM »
Well we don't have to worry about using the comet.  I sent it to Chessex and they said they have already been contacted by GW with a list of images they are not allowed to use.  So back to the drawing board.

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« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2012, 06:15:41 PM »
How about this idea?


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« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2012, 06:33:52 PM »
Nice! I like that one a lot. :)

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« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2012, 11:01:54 PM »
How about this idea?



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« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2012, 03:58:53 AM »
How about this idea?



Oh crap, now we have to worry about Disney coming after us for infringing on the Ghost Rider IP...... ::heretic::

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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2012, 04:13:40 AM »
I want a dice boot!

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« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2012, 02:24:17 PM »
thats pretty cool ilike it.

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« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2012, 04:10:20 PM »
Well we don't have to worry about using the comet.  I sent it to Chessex and they said they have already been contacted by GW with a list of images they are not allowed to use.  So back to the drawing board.

Would love to see this list of images. Reckon Chessex would be so kind as to forward it to us? :happy:

I take it calling it a twin tailed sun or solar flare wouldn't get around the issue? :biggriin:
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