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Title: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 19, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
We've sort of had this discussion spread over lots of threads, but I have a couple of questions about some minis from other manufacturers.

I have kept a long list of manufacturers in my Favourites links, and lately have been surfing through the list, seeing what's new, and updating it.


Basically I am doing a 'Mathi'  :icon_wink: and considering other armies. However unlike some members I have no desire to disappear off to another race to build a new army, instead I look at other themed Empire armies.

For some time now I have been collecting minis for an Estalian Conquistador army, and I am tempted at the moment by Asian/Far East models.


So ..............


I am quite impressed with Perry Miniatures
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html

and I've been looking at their ECW stuff, the Muslim Armies, and the Korean and Samurai.
Are they all plastic?

The prices seem pretty good - Price 'A' is £6 sometimes for 6 minis.



These people do some very very cheap plastics, but has anyone got or seen their metal stuff?

http://www.em4miniatures.com/acatalog/Oriental_Blades__unpainted_.html






Lastly TAG or The Assault Group

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php

They do loads of ranges - anyone bought their minis?

Spanish (Conquistadors), Cossacks, & Medieval Asia Mongols & Others?


If you want to develop this further with other manufacturers, then please do .......... of course after my questions have been answered

It could provide info to revive/update the 'Links' sticky in the Imperial Office
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Inarticulate on November 19, 2009, 10:54:07 PM
Most Perry stuff is metal I believe. Only the boxed sets are plastic.

www.warlordgames.co.uk

Lots of awesome ECW stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 20, 2009, 04:47:23 AM


As Inarticulate said, most of the Perry stuff is metal. But as we discussed in another thread, they've got plastic Wars of the Roses figures coming out soon, which gets a big :-D from me.

I think you may already be familiar with most of these, but just for the sake of mentioning it and collecting references...

I think you've seen elsewhere that I'm a big fan of the Front Rank Wars of the Roses range, as well. I use them for both Empire & DoW figures. As much as I'm a fan of the puff & slash landsknecht style, I've also become increasingly fond of doing a "historical Empire" army from the past, before the puff & slash. Sort of like they were portrayed in earlier editions of the game. Along those lines, some of the Crusader Miniatures WotR range are good. The cavalry fit better with WFB and Front Rank figures, though -- the infantry are well sculpted but thinner and more "realistic" looking.


Foundry is good, if somewhat expensive if you live outside of the UK. But in addition to their landsknecht range, they also have conquistadors & Elizabethans. Not only that, but they have a small number of orcs & dwarfs in costume of that period as well. Maybe something to use as DoW (dwarfs, Rudluds, etc) in an Estalian themed army.

Then, of course, there's the Black Scorpion's human, orc, gobbo and dwarf pirates.

Black Hat has more orcs, dwarfs, gobbos, etc. in a sort of Elizabethan/pirate theme.

Vendel Miniatures' fantasy figures are more dark ages themed, but they have a small range of Elizabethans (including their Irish & Border Rievers ranges.) A lot of the English are wearing morions and could probably pass for Estalians. I'm very curious to see these figures in person. They look great (and tempting!) on the web page.

There's also Old Glory, for a variety of historical figures. Plus I think at one point they carried various "dwarf wars" figures (Or were they by Blue Moon?) that were themed to different historical armies.

If you want ECW, in addition to the plastics from Warlord, mentioned by Inarticulate, there are also some great sales/deals at Renegade. Their figures are bit bulkier and closer to GW scale (if not bigger!).




http://www.perry-miniatures.com/
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/
http://www.frontrank.com/
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/
http://www.blackhat.co.uk/shattered_isles/index.php
http://vendelminiatures.co.uk/
http://www.oldglory25s.com
http://www.renegademiniatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 20, 2009, 09:10:23 AM
Oh I already have Foundry & Vendel stuff. The Vendel models are plain but nice, and good value.
I plan on mixing them all up with the old GW Estalians, Pirazzo's, and some other odds and ends I have like these:
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/borderreivers.htm

again pretty plain and nearer 30mm, but the odd one mixed in is fine.

...... and I have the pike and shotte boxes from Warlord, but they are a bit small and the hand weapons are tiny. They need to be in a unit of their own - they will not mix well with the above.

Going back to Perry, I thought metal, but some of the unpainted pics look quite 'grey' like plastic, and they show banner sets in a similar grey that look 'very' plastic.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 20, 2009, 01:38:39 PM
You know, I happened upon the Dwarf forum the other day (I was looking for nice piccies of cool minis) and they have a really nicely laid out 'other manufacturer' section  and I couldn't help but thinking that we should really have something like that too.

It had clear pictures, links to websites and a lot of information on scale comparisons, range size, pricing and all. I was impressed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on November 21, 2009, 12:03:36 PM
I found this thread at TMP which has a couple of links to scale comparison pics if it's of any help.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=167341 (http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=167341)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Crimsonsphinx on November 21, 2009, 12:37:43 PM
I buy models from Reaper, Rackham and Hasslefree as well as Gw.

Truth be told, I normally just buy the models I like, then find a way to use them in my armies  :-D

http://www.reapermini.com/
http://www.rackham-store.com/boutique_us/index.cfm?code_lg=lg_us
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 21, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
I am figuring about wether to use a T-34 model for either my Guards or for my orkz. And I still need a Sherman or a Tiger for another Battlewagon alongside my JSU-152.

By the way, Hasslefree got some lovely freaked out stuff.

And if you are into elves and think GW is to expensive, there is a new alternative in town. Not the superbest, but they ain΄t bad either.
http://www.manticgames.com/
And their pricetag rocks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2009, 05:27:56 PM

Good timing with this... I just spotted the following new figures announced at TMP:

http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Renaissance.html

Where I was also reminded of:

http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_693&sort=3a
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=87_126_740&products_id=10205
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_126_756&sort=3a


Hope I didn't miss that someone else already mentioned these.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 23, 2009, 07:04:07 PM
I have seen Eureka, but never been tempted enough to order all the way from Oz, and it annoys me that you cannot see delivery costs until you've done very thing else on their site.

The Bears Den photos appear stretched on my PC for some reason, and the model details look slightly 'chunky' .........

...... however this has to be one hell of a range:

http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Bankers.html


 :engel:

What next?      ........... MP Marauders
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2009, 07:40:47 PM
When you click on the "Photo" link and it opens a new window, wait for the image to load, then right click on it and select "View Image." Then resize that browser window. That will enlarge the photos of the unpainted figures greatly, and will fix the proportions on the painted figures.


It's the format of the web page. I assume they're copying HTML or using some sort of template. Whatever it is, it sucks and is screwing up their photos and likely turning away customers. And the stupid thing about the small photos is that it's still loading the full, huge files, so they're actually "paying" more bandwidth for a crappy default display!



http://www.bearsdenminiatures.com/28mm%20Bankers.html

What next?      ........... MP Marauders

Hrm... I'll have to add "sculpt range of 28mm architects" to my list of things to do...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 23, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
Actually 023 their whole site looks a bit amateurish,

... I was going to email them and ask where I could get the 'bear' model and then I saw it was a 'hotmail' address and I lost interest ..............

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 25, 2009, 08:20:31 PM
Nobody seems to have any info on the EM4 outfit?

I know someone posted a link to their plastic orcs at 50 for £7.50 a while back, but I wondered if anyone knew anything of the metal minis?

Do they make these themselves or are they from other manufacturers and these people are merely suppliers?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 25, 2009, 08:38:00 PM
All I know is EM4 used to do some cheap plastics, including some of the figures from the old Fantasy Warriors game, as well as the Space Rangers. I think they got into pre-painted.

I had some of the old plastic orcs & dwarfs when Grenadier was producing them. They were only OK for the time, now they look pretty dated.

I have never seen any of the metals, nor do I know anyone who has any.

Sorry. :/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on November 27, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
I just discovered that Artizan have started a Landsknecht range.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 27, 2009, 03:42:20 PM
Oooh!

I hope they come out with more poses. Just 4 of the same guy standing with pike upright and 4 with them held level isn't much variety. They look great, though.

I wonder how they compare to Foundry.


EDIT: Looks like they have more variety in this regiment pack:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1739

And at a discount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 01, 2009, 03:19:18 PM
I was just about to post about the Artizan landsnechts! Just as well I checked first.

I'm going to buy that pack.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2009, 01:23:45 AM


I just saw that TAG (The Assault Group) have releases some more Spanish:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Neapolitan-swordsmen-and-Artillery-crew-on-the-%3Cem%3EWorkbench%3C/em%3E-138

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Inarticulate on December 07, 2009, 01:27:51 AM
Those look nice, though I generally steer clear of Assault Group for some reason.

I've got loads of fluff written for an Estalian army I need to find the time and money to put models to!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 07, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
The TAG spanish range was why I asked about them in the first post.

In the link 023 gives above they look a bit 'head heavy' to me - too much for me to order without a recommendation.
I think I'll leave them until Salute next April and actually have a look up close on their stand.

On the good news front my Perry order turned up today - I bought some Choson Korean, and Samurai ..............

Wow - I tried 2 sets of the Koreans - the heavy swordsmen KOR16  and Cavalry with flails KOR10.

The swordsmen are £6.00 for 6, +12% postage - Perry sculpts at £1.12p each, just fantastic.
If you look at the swordsmen pics on their site they are nicely painted, and the shields look brilliant - I thought it was the painter's design, but no - the shield designs are sculpted.

The cavalry KOR10 is three riders + mounts and weapons are separate along with a 3-piece bow sprue = bow in quiver, arrows in quiver, and an empty quiver.

I also got a few of the Samurai sets to see how they look, and again sets of 6 individual swordsmen models for £6.00.

I think there is a strong possibiity that my Kislevs will have forged a few new alliances eastwards and have some allied units appearing within their ranks soon ..............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 16, 2009, 02:04:49 PM


Found this thread with a couple of comparison shots of the new Artizan figures next to some other manufacturers:

http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23759&start=10

Is it my imagination or do the legs look short (and long torso) on the guy in the third pic (compared to the GW spearman)? The others (in the first two pics) look fine normal, though. Look good, in fact. Further tempting me...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 16, 2009, 11:06:49 PM
Is it my imagination or do the legs look short (and long torso) on the guy in the third pic

I don't know, but I have some and think they look fine next to GW ones.

Mine were slightly poorly cast though. Quite a bit of flash, and few bits of impaired detail. Still worth the price though, and preferable to foundry or old glory.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2009, 03:06:27 AM
Yeah... my willpower is breaking down. I'm on a miniatures "spending freeze" so I'm now starting to consider selling of all or parts of my WE army that I will probably never get to and use that to fund a big purchase of the new Artizan & Perry figures. Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on December 17, 2009, 09:38:28 AM
Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(

I hear ya!

Everytime my wife asks me what I want, she sounds like Meatloaf when I give her the answer:

"I will do anything for love, but I won't do that..."

WTF?

Still, hadn't it been for my new found love for 40K Orks I would probably have succumbed to those lovely plastic Romans.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 17, 2009, 12:13:54 PM
Well, I am more and more looking at Warhammer Ancient Battles, because thanks to Rome: Total war, I think I can turn my son over to it. And the minis are cheaper.

Now, if I invent some nifty dual base system, I might be able to use celts as maraduers in the future or something... Maybe...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on December 17, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
.... I might be able to use Celts as marauders in the future or something... Maybe...

Why bother with Chaos Mathi, just use them as Empire swordsmen & spearmen and call them allies or auxiliaries from Albion.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2009, 06:33:45 PM
Too bad no one ever buys me miniatures or gaming stuff for Christmas!  :-(




I hear ya!

Still, hadn't it been for my new found love for 40K Orks I would probably have succumbed to those lovely plastic Romans.

You wimps - call yourself men and gamers ........ :icon_rolleyes:

How many times do we have to remind you of the great resources on this site:

http://www.warhammer-empire.com/library/danse/christmas.php

I had a large packet arrive last week - my wife has been given the various boxes contained within to various relatives in exchange for money assuring them that my visible ecstasy on opening their gifts will be wonderful.

I have been doing the annual rehearsal of the immortal line from the above dissertation -
 
“Oh fabulous, I have wanted this ............."

in the mirror for the last few days ......

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 17, 2009, 06:42:17 PM
You΄re a god among men, Midaski!  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2009, 06:51:28 PM
SSShhhhhhhh or they'll all be asking for their ideas from the ' one wish' thread.


Actually I'm a god among women as well, as Shadowlord's mum will apparently testify ............... so he tells me.
 :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2009, 07:35:23 PM


Now see, at that point, I may as well just buy the stuff myself, wrap it up, put it under the tree, open it and act surprised on Christmas morning.

 :-P

In fact, maybe I should do that. "Ooooh! Look what I got me! Just what I wanted all year! This is the best Christmas ever!" That would probably asking for domestic/family trouble, though.  :unsure:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2009, 10:41:48 PM

Now see, at that point, I may as well just buy the stuff myself, wrap it up, put it under the tree, open it and act surprised on Christmas morning.

When my kids were younger that was exactly what happened.

According to the labels, I had presents from Santa, then Sigmar, and the "Emperor" .................

However as they get older you have to be a little more devious conciliatory ...........
 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2009, 03:48:21 PM


Since I won't be buying the Artizan figures for a while, I decided to work on something I've already got in order to satisfy the landsknechty urges. At first I was considering converting some of the 5th edition plastic state troop stash.

But instead I cleaned assembled a pack of 30 Old Glory pikemen. I'm pleasantly surprised. I have only cleaned & primed them so far, but they really look good. I'll post some photos in the B&P when I'm done. (After the holidays.)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 21, 2009, 04:06:24 PM
I got a bag of them a while ago and was also pleasantly surpirsed by them

Bonus is they pretty much rank up together too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2009, 05:29:17 PM
Yeah, I like the angle of the pike. It's more dynamic than just standing upright, but they're still high enough you can move your troops into contact with each other.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 07, 2010, 02:30:28 PM


They've posted some more pics of new figures and a second regiment deal at the Artizan page:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1
http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=18&cat=137&page=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 07, 2010, 02:54:24 PM
Do I see "Dopplesoldiers"? <claps excitedly>
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 07, 2010, 03:23:50 PM
Do I see "Dopplesoldiers"? <claps excitedly>

'No Stock' it appears, so probably WiP

I've just emailed to see if they do an 'army deal' on the advancing pike.
I fancy the 'standing' regiment, but not the 'attacking' one - you'd charge something and still be 3" away  :icon_wink:

They also seem to have the extra armoured packs available now to supplement the regiment.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 07, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
They have made me happy in my happy place.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 07, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
I've had a very speedy reply:

"There will be. Once the moulds are made I'll add an advancing regiment, so keep an eye on the site in the next couple of weeks."

I'm tempted to buy a set of all three, and add a few extra armoured models - you could have a couple of nice 30+ man strong units.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 09, 2010, 08:08:47 PM
I have a question!

Does anyone know where to purchase 28mm scale British American Civil War heads with tricorne hats?

Our club is starting to bubble over Black Powder.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 09, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Ehhh... you mean American war of independence? They did not have tricorns at the civil war, unless you where a century behind in fashion.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 09, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
Damn right I meant the War of Independance. Just trying to trick you.

Anything useful to add?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 09, 2010, 11:03:40 PM
Perry miniatures have an American revolution range. Not just the heads though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 09, 2010, 11:09:37 PM
Aye, the idea was to get lots of plastic Napoleonics and use tricorne hats. Fortunately only The Other at my club is anal enough to refuse to play against that.

Someone else is using un-converted British Line Infantry from the Napoleonic period for the AWI British.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 10, 2010, 08:42:53 AM
Well, buy the real stuff instead.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 10, 2010, 09:31:25 AM
You are in a helpful mood aren't you.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2010, 05:15:51 AM

Totally unrelated to AWI or Naps... I'm drooling over the new Ancient (http://www.crusaderminiaturesusa.com/index.php?cat_id=58) Empire Germans (http://www.crusaderminiaturesusa.com/index.php?cat_id=58) at Crusader. I was going to place an order with them in the next few weeks. (My OG discount card expires soon so I want to take advantage of cheaper prices while I can!) But my plan was to jump into Macedonians/Successors (http://www.crusaderminiaturesusa.com/view_product.php?product=Box014). But now I'm seriously thinking about adding to the German horde instead. Oh the painful dilemma (http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2010/01/purchase-dilemma.html)...

As beautiful as the Artizan Landsknechts and Perry Wars of the Roses figures look, they're going to have to wait until next year due to my wedding sapping my gaming budget for this year (at least  :ph34r: ) Unless someone buys me a boatload of landsknechts for a wedding gift or something like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 20, 2010, 06:07:23 AM
I got my hands on just a few of the Artizan landsknechts. I'm very impressed. Now I'm having even more trouble keeping focused on the things I need to get done first. :|

I'll eventually post some pics & a review on my blog, plus a special little something for W-E...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 20, 2010, 11:17:31 AM
I got my hands on just a few of the Artizan landsknechts. I'm very impressed.

Did yours have a lot of flash on them? Mine did.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 20, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
I've only got four figures so far. Only one of the four had significant flash -- flat sheet type flash around one side of the neck and at the crotch. The other three had only very minor mould lines. All cleaned up easy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 20, 2010, 11:57:39 PM
Some of mine were quite bad, flash-wise. I still like them though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 12:12:31 AM
Are the Pike and shotte things from warlord the same as the war of the roses?

I can't get a good picture of the war of roses sprue. I need some pikemen which look like Riccos republican guard.

I also saw some pictures of some pretty sweet cavalry which I wanted.

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ao/ao28.jpg
are they war of roses?

sorry, my buying-fu is weak :(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Are the Pike and shotte things from warlord the same as the war of the roses?

No. They are 17th century, not 15th century.


Quote
I can't get a good picture of the war of roses sprue. I need some pikemen which look like Riccos republican guard.

I don't think the perry war of the roses set is really suitable for that. Maybe the four fully-armoured guys you get would be OK, but the rest of the set isn't armoured enough. And you'd still need to convert them anyway to give them pikes.

I don't know of any models that really look like the ricco's pikemen.



Quote
I also saw some pictures of some pretty sweet cavalry which I wanted.

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ao/ao28.jpg
are they war of roses?

They are from the early 15th century range, so not War of the Roses. But close enough really. Just a bit old-fashioned.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 12:33:47 AM
I just want to use them as GW light cav with spears (and javelins)

shame about the Ricco's. Might have to just buy some more of them.
Christ! they are 30 quid for 12 of them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 21, 2010, 05:08:52 AM
I would totally believe those as Light Cav.

As far as Ricco's, I'm not sure I know of anyone who makes pikemen that heavily armoured.

You may be able to use or convert some of the more heavily armoured Front Rank WotR figures. Look into WR64 & 65:

http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_1_WOR_Infantry.asp?startnum=9

and WR 92, 93, 94:

http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_1_WOR_Infantry.asp?startnum=25



Or maybe even...

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=198&cat=5&sub=16&page=1


Be warned, though. Those particular Crusader Miniatures figures are a bit on  the thin side, especially compared to GW figures. The Front Rank are bigger and beefier. Still not quite GW, but they're even a big bigger than the Perry figures.

Front Rank also do some nice figures for light cav. That's what I've used for one of my light cav units.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 01:55:15 PM
I actually think tyhose crusader minis look pretty similar to RRG. apart from the feathers
Now just have to make my own frakin pikes.

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/mew003.jpg)

(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1251888_99110214008_ColWHRiccoBoxMain_445x319.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 21, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=19&cat=134&page=1

Or buy some.

I did order a set a week or two ago, hasn't arrived yet though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
oh my goodness.

Did you want all 80?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 21, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
I'll be using 44ish, two units of 24 spearmen need doing. If the rest is enough you can have them if I get them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 02:15:56 PM
I think I need 8.
Have to check how many RRG I actually have.

I presume you have emailed/hassled them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 21, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Nope, given the weather conditions I'm quite lenient towards companies sending me stuff, plus I've used them  in the past and they seem to just take a while. I did check my bank to make sure I had actually paid them for the stuff, and I have so..

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 03:13:02 PM
http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=19&cat=134&page=1

Or buy some.

I did order a set a week or two ago, hasn't arrived yet though.

Those pikes are great (they are the ones I use), but: you need to cut them down if using them with Ricco's! They have very small pikes.


See, there's another dick joke. Sort of.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 04:05:47 PM
I thought 10 CM seemed a bit big.
I'm really pleased though, I really think they look similar enough! might try to do GS scarf round some heads, and GS cloth on their pikes...
So a big thumbs up to 023 for his help

Now just to figure out how to actually buy those light cav too..

The Perry miniatures website IS RUBBISH
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
It's not that difficult. I've bought things from there before.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 04:17:42 PM
I cant find those horsies in the plastic range menu.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 04:21:46 PM
Which ones? They don't sell plastic horses, other than as part of the Napoleonic cavalry set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 21, 2010, 04:22:50 PM
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ao/ao28.jpg)

These ones, the ones I posted earlier, and you told me they were 15th century.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 21, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
Ah. They are metal. Riders and horses both.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 22, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
Ah. They are metal. Riders and horses both.

yup, they are just the same price as GW plastics ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 22, 2010, 11:00:46 AM
The horses haven't eaten so many buns, either.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 25, 2010, 10:53:16 PM


Preview of the second, delicious set of Perry WotR plastics:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/915927/


Pike, handgun, crosswbow. Says they will try to include pavise and other bits in the kit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 26, 2010, 12:07:10 AM
I want those now! They will be the best thing ever.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 26, 2010, 06:56:16 PM
No shit me not, Rufus! I just love them more and more as new pics emerge!
Maybe the perfect minis for a Tilean army?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 27, 2010, 11:20:12 AM
Definitely. I hope they release them soon!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 27, 2010, 11:54:47 AM
february didnt it say?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 27, 2010, 12:14:48 PM
Did it? That would be nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 27, 2010, 03:38:34 PM
oh, no.
The first range of WotR metals are in february, but about the plastics
Quote
These are still in the process of being sculpted, so don't expect anything soon! There is no release date at this time.

Darn, I want some FPA halberdiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 28, 2010, 10:19:22 AM
When it comes to getting new Empire stuff, besides someday getting those new archers, the WoTR minis are on the list!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 28, 2010, 12:49:27 PM
Those pikes are great (they are the ones I use)

They just arrived today, and they are indeed very nice!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 28, 2010, 03:05:10 PM
A bit hazardous though... they are sharp, are quite hard to see when they are pointing straight up.


Too bad the perry handgunners/crossbowmen won't be out for ages, because I want them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
I just want to use them as GW light cav with spears (and javelins)

shame about the Ricco's. Might have to just buy some more of them.
Christ! they are 30 quid for 12 of them.

Lol.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 04, 2010, 05:43:19 PM
I just want to use them as GW light cav with spears (and javelins)

shame about the Ricco's. Might have to just buy some more of them.
Christ! they are 30 quid for 12 of them.

Lol.

What's funny about my poverty? My pike unit is going to be mismatched now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 06:56:31 PM
It's not your poverty I was laughing at, it was your exasaperation when you realised what the price was...  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 04, 2010, 06:58:55 PM
Bah and piffle.

Admit it, you (and every single member of your club) were mocking his poverty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 07:12:57 PM
I think that would more likely be your avatar and her cronies, mocking the miners poverty shortly after they sent in the army against her own people.
All she needed was sarin gas and she would have been known as Comedic Maggie Hussein  :icon_eek: :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 04, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
Thatcher is the only woman I've thought "What a guy" about.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2010, 07:25:57 PM
She'll always be second to Ina Sharples in my book.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 05, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
I just got some of the Crusader Minis to go with my Ricco's, they are smaller, but with a couple of feathers stuck on and at the back rank of the block they will go just fine imo.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 05, 2010, 02:21:37 PM
I demand picture proof of this. Hurry and paint them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 05, 2010, 02:44:19 PM
tsk gimme chance!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 05, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
Fine! You have till 9pm, but only because I'm in a good mood.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 06, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
Back on topic...

Midaski, Have you had a look at the Gripping Beast Muslim and Christendom models for an alternative Arab Empire army?
They do some lovely camel riders as well for heavy cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 06, 2010, 09:51:28 AM
Back on topic...

Midaski, Have you had a look at the Gripping Beast Muslim and Christendom models for an alternative Arab Empire army?
They do some lovely camel riders as well for heavy cavalry.

I'm under control at the moment thank you .......... ( well sort of)   :engel:

I am focussed on the summer campaign and some Estalians, dwarfs and halflings. I have 'stored' a lot of minis already for another couple of themed armies, and I have lots of unfinished units for my Kislevites, Altdorf, Averland and Middenland/heim/CoU armies ................

.... Larry Leadhead bows in my presence ..............  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 07, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
I bought some of the Perry war of the roses plastic miniatures, and they are awesome. And ludicrously cheap.

Buy them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 07, 2010, 04:14:29 PM
I bought some of the Perry war of the roses plastic miniatures, and they are awesome. And ludicrously cheap.

Buy them!

Yes, Sir !

By your command, Sir !




 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 07, 2010, 04:23:42 PM
Buy them!

What ? Some more?

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 08, 2010, 11:02:46 AM
The Perry WOTR figures are great. I've got the last 5 of the box left to paint, their are primed and based and ready to go. I've done 18 as archers, 5 halberdiers and 15 pikemen. For the pike men they are all advancing with the pikes at 45 degrees so have been a pain to rank up, they are all numbered on the base so I know where they go. My strong tone dip has arrived so will get them done and get some photo's up.

The new perry stuff will be perfect. The upright pikes can form the back ranks of my units and the xbows and handgunners look superb. Some cavalry would be nice next. The metal cannons on their site look good too. I think the smaller one will have to be my horse artillery with a suitable draught horse converted.

Lets hope they get them released ASAP!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 09, 2010, 12:13:49 PM
I've assembled one of the fully-armoured ones so far. It's really excellent.

I heard somewhere that there is a mounted men-at-arms set planned for the future too.


Quote
I've got the last 5 of the box left to paint, their are primed and based and ready to go. I've done 18 as archers, 5 halberdiers and 15 pikemen. For the pike men they are all advancing with the pikes at 45 degrees so have been a pain to rank up, they are all numbered on the base so I know where they go. My strong tone dip has arrived so will get them done and get some photo's up.

Quick work!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 09, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
Bigger than the Forge World option...

http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/thebattleforgephotos/Giants/Prototype%20Resins/FinalGiantCast01.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on February 09, 2010, 06:40:12 PM
I'm awaiting pictures of these cool new minis...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 09, 2010, 06:54:12 PM
The new Titan size Giants come with about 8 different head options, six different weapon options etc. so you should never see the sdame Giant twice.
I hear 4 of them are being painted up by 4 different professional miniature painters at the moment so there should be some decent pictures of them painted soonish.
They are made of resin and I think they will retail about £15 pounds less than the Forgeworld Giant, and if you buy three there is a discount and they come in around £25 pounds cheaper than buying three FG giants , also the FG Giant doesn't have much in the way of variations or options available.
These Giants have different torso and legs options as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 09, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
Such big models but they hold a lot of detail so they will ber a treat to paint up for the battlefield.

http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/thebattleforgephotos/Giants/Prototype%20Resins/ResinGiant01c.jpg

A scale shot with a cart and a halfling...
http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/thebattleforgephotos/Giants/Prototype%20Resins/ResinGiant01a.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 14, 2010, 01:07:40 PM
Back to Perry war of the roses again:

I painted the four men-at-arms. They are quite tall and thin compared to most of my other miniatures.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/men-at-arms.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 14, 2010, 02:22:33 PM
Really nice!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 14, 2010, 05:21:24 PM
Those Men-at-arms are really sweet!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 15, 2010, 12:20:03 PM
They are really nice models. As soon as I buy some more glue, I will have a go at the halberdiers and archers.

Anyway, I recommend them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on February 15, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
Elegant, even gracious. Excellent models, the more so thanks to the low price per figure, compared to certain another company.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2010, 03:22:16 PM
So I searched around at home and could find none of my Riccos!
Wondering if I sold them, although I don't remember doing so.

So the WotR plastics it is I guess. Whats the ratio of models? I don't really need/want Archers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 22, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
As far as I can remember, it was 40 figures in total, with a max of 30 archers or 18 billmen.

Edit: Ah yes, this will help:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/904883/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 22, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
Finlay,

If you are making pikemen then you can only get 12 per box as 6 of the bill arms are in inappropriate positions for pikes. You end up with lots of archers!

Will post some pics of mine in the next couple of days.

Adam
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2010, 04:19:13 PM

I would just wait it out a bit. They are supposed to be releasing a second box of figures, specifically for pikemen, handgunners and crossbow.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2010, 04:20:46 PM
They don't have to all be archers - if you have Ed.6 soldiers arms you can slice off at the shoulder and use the GW matching arm pairs.

The only problem is the 'heroic' weapons size difference.
I've been experimenting with Warlord and Perry plastics and so far my opinion is that if you keep the weapons the same per unit then it looks fairly ok.
That is - use whatever bodies you like, but only use GW weapons in a unit, or only use Warlord/Perry weapons.

Looking at the time scales on the first set, it could be past the summer before the second set of Perry stuff is ready.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2010, 04:24:27 PM
Looking at the time scales on the first set, it could be past the summer before the second set of Perry stuff is ready.

Well, I suppose that could be a problem if you need the figures right now.  :-P

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2010, 04:33:39 PM

Well, I suppose that could be a problem if you need the figures right now.  :-P

 :icon_rolleyes: Have you ever known a hobbyist who doesn't ..............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2010, 04:36:34 PM


I'm working on it. I was doing well until falling off the wagon last year. But I'm back on track for the moment. The true test will be the Cold Wars vendor's hall in a couple weeks.   :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
Looking at the time scales on the first set, it could be past the summer before the second set of Perry stuff is ready.

Well, I suppose that could be a problem if you need the figures right now.  :-P
I need them for the eurobash
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 22, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
So the WotR plastics it is I guess. Whats the ratio of models? I don't really need/want Archers.

I'm doing mine as 24 halberdiers and 16 bowmen (well, 14 plus standard and musician).

If you want pikemen, buy something else.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
I'm going Artizan for the Pikes I reckon. 18 quid for 20.

Rufus, did you buy 2 boxes of the WotR? they say that you can only make 18 billmen per box.
If I could get away with one box of WotR for some Billmen, and the Artizan pack (plus some more, or borrow some random pikemen from someone) for my 2 infantry units, I'd be pleased.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 22, 2010, 05:29:01 PM
I just bought one. You can make 18 halberdiers, 4 men-at-arms with poleaxes, a standard bearer and a musician. That makes 24 halberdiers.

I like the Artizan pikemen, though they are annoying to paint thanks to their outfits. I've had eight of them sitting around half-painted since I bought them in December.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 22, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
Damn... I wish I had money and I would order a package of them sweet Perry minis. A nice looking, even if a bit small, halberdier unit.
And when you have collected a number of boxes, you suddenly got yourself a unit of different looking greatswords/Reiksguard on foot with what became the knights weapon of choice for dismounted combat, the versatile poleaxe!  :engel:
Oh, the lovely dreams.

But it would also give you a shitload of archers, but hey, it would surely give me a solid base to create a Bretonnian force around.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2010, 10:55:40 AM
Buy them!


Here's a quick picture of the halberdiers I've painted so far:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/PA190002.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 23, 2010, 10:59:23 AM
Very nice,

where did you get the banner from?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2010, 01:59:47 PM
It's one of imperial forge's decals.

Still waiting to see pictures of your models!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
Also:

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but the Assault Group have just released some of a new Italian range:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?First-Italians-released-144

Pikemen, arquebussiers and Papal guards. Swordsmen on the way, apparently. Great for the warhammer-empire summer campaign!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 23, 2010, 03:09:36 PM
Those look a bit rubbish, especially the pikemen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 23, 2010, 10:31:05 PM
i've two archers to paint and finish and 13 pikemen, 3 made and started to paint then dip then matt vanish the lot then the pictures can go up. In the middle of painting my ogre hero so they are after him.

That gives me 28 pikemen, 20 archers, the ogre hero, 14 bearmen and 5 norse horsemen painted. Then another 9 halberdiers to do and i've got a unit of 14 halberdiers as well.

You'll just have to wait.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 24, 2010, 10:02:53 AM
Those look a bit rubbish

Maybe, but they are Italian.

They probably look better painted. But I've never bought anything from that company, so don't know.


Quote from: FR1DAY
You'll just have to wait.

Oh.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2010, 03:22:28 PM
Maybe, but they are Italian.

They probably look better painted. But I've never bought anything from that company, so don't know.


I'm going to Cold Wars in a couple weeks. I don't know if they have a US rep/distributor/presence,  but I'll see if anyone is selling them there and pick up a few if they look decent.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2010, 03:51:24 PM


Just spotted this...

http://antre-de-jehan.blogspot.com/2010/02/conversion-de-piquiers-perry.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 24, 2010, 08:35:48 PM
That is the exact conversion i've done. watch this space.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 26, 2010, 09:11:21 AM
Regarding other manufacturers, it's a little bit personal  :icon_redface:, but I have been having a love affair with the Hobgoblins from 'Otherworld' miniatures for the last 6 months, I just adore them, probably because they are the best and closest representation I have seen of the original Hobgoblinm pictures in the original Monster Manual from Gary Gygax' world famous RPG, D+D.
I just love them, the sculpts, the paint work, the poses, the historical representation... the lot.

http://www.otherworld.me.uk/hgseries.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 26, 2010, 09:13:31 AM
I have been having a love affair with the Hobgoblins from 'Otherworld'
I'm not sure we want to know about that.

It reminds me of that particular miniature Soth posted elsewhere...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 26, 2010, 10:05:23 AM
Otherworld have some good stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 28, 2010, 09:00:56 PM
Now, if I invent some nifty dual base system, I might be able to use celts as maraduers in the future or something... Maybe...

What do you mean exactly Malthi...
 :ph34r: (Gets prepared for the multi-paragraphed reply...)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 28, 2010, 09:23:51 PM
Oh, just that if I can find a way to make celts on 20mm bases slip into 25mm bases if I would want to field them as Chaos maraduers, it would be a neat way to combine two armies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on February 28, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
Magnets. Or just buy/make movement trays with the spacing made. They do sell them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 01, 2010, 02:17:41 PM
Very nice and well worth a nosey for potential future Empire purchases for foot knights, (one of my favourite old Empire units)

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5202_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5196_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5197_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5198_1.jpg

http://www.sdean-forum.co.uk/phpBB2/userpix/943_IMG_5199_1.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 01, 2010, 04:12:38 PM
I don΄t think anyone will ever mind if you field them on 20 mm base and have a unit template that shows how they would look like with 25 mm bases Mr D Whitey is right....once again.

But one day some noisy children will be his peril.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 01, 2010, 11:05:58 PM
I've got the same problem with my bearmen and norse marauders being on 20mm bases and needing themon 25mm for a chaos mortals army. I'm going to use the 25mm flat style bases, like you get in the perry miniatures boxes and blue tack to increase the base size.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 02, 2010, 07:22:14 AM
Have a look at these first, I use them all the time to get troops already on Warhammer 20mm bases to fit snugly into being 25mm wide each without all the aggro, check it out...

Trays to allow figures on 20mm square bases to be ranked up as if they were on 25mm square bases.

Also, if you belong to a bonafide recognised gaming club you can apply for a handsome discount.

http://www.terrainwarehouse.co.uk/category.aspx?CategoryID=146
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 02, 2010, 08:01:52 AM
I've got the same problem with my bearmen and norse marauders being on 20mm bases and needing themon 25mm for a chaos mortals army. I'm going to use the 25mm flat style bases, like you get in the perry miniatures boxes and blue tack to increase the base size.


I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size. I can play them now as Chaos marauders or Bearmen.

You can see them here:http://dogsofwaronline.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=520 (http://dogsofwaronline.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=520)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 02, 2010, 08:14:50 AM
I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size.

Doesn't that upset the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 02, 2010, 08:22:45 AM
Also, if you belong to a bonafide recognised gaming club you can apply for a handsome discount.

http://www.terrainwarehouse.co.uk/category.aspx?CategoryID=146

I love these trays - tough and enough depth that they will take a sheet of metal for magnetising.
Of course the club discount of 15% helps too.

I just did a big order of 51 trays which was delivered a week or so ago - I think we have around 140 trays in total now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 02, 2010, 09:07:41 AM
I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size.

Doesn't that upset the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset ?

Actually it does, thou not in such extent to be cheesy. But its a price u have to pay. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 02, 2010, 09:12:25 AM
I had the same problem with the same minis....I solved that easy: I put them onto 25mm bases, since  GW rules state that you CAN put the models on the bigger size bases but not on smaller size. I can play them now as Chaos marauders or Bearmen.

I must have missed this. Where do GW rules state this?

Until now, I thought you had to use the standard base size (just think of terror and other "bubble"-effects).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 02, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
WFB rules say infantry is on a base 20-25mm square, they dont say anything more than that about which infantry is on what base.

GW figures send out bases with their miniatures that is of a certain size depending on which race they are, but that isnt noted anywhere in the rules, certainly not on the GW UK website.

Putting your troops on a larger base disadvantages the person that does that anyway, its if there was a player that scaled down there would be a problem...

And I hope the reference to "...the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset"  was with a huge dollop of sarcasm?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 02, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
Putting your troops on a larger base disadvantages the person that does that anyway, its if there was a player that scaled down there would be a problem...

Well, there are both advantages and disadvantages, depending on the respective models' rules.

I don't know whether I'd like a Shadow Mage on a 20x600mm base casting Crown of Taidron... :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warlord on March 02, 2010, 12:33:37 PM
There is a base size docuemtn floating around somewhere. they just for some stupid reason don't have it on their website anymore - though for the most part it only covered off 6th ed armies...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 02, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
And I hope the reference to "...the intricate an delicate balance of the Warhammer ruleset"  was with a huge dollop of sarcasm?

Not in the least.  :engel: :engel: :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 02, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
There is a base size docuemtn floating around somewhere. they just for some stupid reason don't have it on their website anymore - though for the most part it only covered off 6th ed armies...

Isnt it also in French? And therefore discounted in utterly lacking in value?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 02, 2010, 12:58:59 PM
That bodes not well for the value of posts made by a certain Uryens de Crux. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 02, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
I have an ancient, English version.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 02, 2010, 01:14:37 PM
That bodes not well for the value of posts made by a certain Uryens de Crux. :icon_wink:

Solid Imperial name is that I'll have you know.  :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 02, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
Also, if you belong to a bonafide recognised gaming club you can apply for a handsome discount.

http://www.terrainwarehouse.co.uk/category.aspx?CategoryID=146

I love these trays - tough and enough depth that they will take a sheet of metal for magnetising.
Of course the club discount of 15% helps too.

I just did a big order of 51 trays which was delivered a week or so ago - I think we have around 140 trays in total now.

Holy moley, they must love you at Terrain warehouse?   :icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 02, 2010, 06:00:45 PM
Ehhh... what a statement Justnorth. Everyone loves Midaski anyway!  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 02, 2010, 06:22:59 PM
Mathi, did you have a look at the conversion trays yet?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 02, 2010, 06:30:26 PM
Holy moley, they must love you at Terrain warehouse?   :icon_eek: :icon_mrgreen:
I spent years making trays out of all sorts of card with matchsticks, or plastic sheets etc.
They warped, twisted, broke and wouldn't fix to metal sheets.

Now I don't have that problem - my units are on substantial trays.
Now I just need to sort out the other two thirds of my Empire troops  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 09, 2010, 04:59:56 PM
The Redoubt Website is useless!

Instead of pictures of their minis, they have crappy drawings. I wonder what this guy actually looks like!

(http://www.redoubtenterprises.com/shop/shop_image/product/a37fda137aa27b91b00b2e56a05e9f29.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 09, 2010, 05:24:47 PM


Two-dimensional cardboard cutout of a line drawing?

Yeah, I can't understand in the age of inexpensive and easy to use hardware & software, why any company doesn't have decent photos of all their figures online.

Old Glory cheeses me off with that a bit, too. Many of their ranges only have photos that are so small you can't see what you're buying. If even that. But, as illustrated above (heh heh) at least they've made some sort of attempt at photos.

I should start advertising: will photograph for lead.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 09, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
The ridiculous thing is that it would have been quicker to take a photo than draw that P.O.S.

I really dont understand why anyone buys anything from them
"oo, I hope the model actually looks like the picture!"
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on March 09, 2010, 06:52:50 PM
I had some Redoubt Confederates a while back. They were nicely sulpted and detailed but not heroic scale so probably not a good mix with GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 09, 2010, 07:57:48 PM


On the contrary, I had some Redoubt renaissance Polish figures (I think they were Redoubt) and they were quite large. Also pretty nice figures.


As far as the line art, two things to consider... One is that it may be a concept drawing that was given to a sculptor. Second is that Redoubt is an old manufacturer, and it may be from an old line when many companies (including GW) used line art to advertise their figures in magazines and for mail order catalogs.

Still no excuse for proper pictures on a web page in the present. But just saying the art may have existed before the figure, or may have served another purpose.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 10, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
Yeah, most companies that still use line drawings are from lines that have been out for decades...but its not hard to take a picture or two for a website.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 10, 2010, 11:10:54 AM
If you are trying to sell miniatures on the internet, you need good photographs of them. Drawings are not acceptable!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 10, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if the drawings are from an age of old, I am still not going to buy anything from them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 10, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
I kind of agree, but since i have bought figures in the past from line drawings in a small home made pamphlet catalogue I cant totally agree lol.

Though the ranges I have been looking at all have pics for them from redoubt.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on March 21, 2010, 02:41:37 PM
Apologies if this is old news but I just discovered that Gripping Beast are about to release plastic Vikings. Not really usable in an Empire army unless it's heavily themed along the lines of an Ulric warband etc.

http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warlord on March 22, 2010, 12:07:07 AM
Nice Models.

Plenty of themes that could use them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on March 22, 2010, 06:26:20 PM
Plastic Vikings...  :icon_eek:

I sure was playing medieval wargames ten years early.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 22, 2010, 06:35:02 PM
Dear mate! It is never too late to start. I could give you a tip where to get the WAB Shieldwall supplement cheap.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 22, 2010, 07:01:53 PM


Or just use them for DoW norse.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 23, 2010, 12:06:53 AM


Or just use them for DoW norse.
Or summer campaign norse.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
In other news, Artizan seem to have completed their landsknecht range now:


http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Aaargghh !

More nice minis.... :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
In other news, Artizan seem to have completed their landsknecht range now:


http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1


I wish those had been out a week ago when I picked up some more pikemen.

I hope they continue on & expand the range further.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 23, 2010, 02:45:43 PM
Those Doppelsoldiers are lovely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 23, 2010, 03:34:04 PM
Arent they just...how big is "too big" for a unit of greatswords?  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 03:52:10 PM
Arent they just...how big is "too big" for a unit of greatswords?  :blush:

What's the minimum unit size?  :wink:

Sorry, I've completely lost faith in greatswords. (In game terms.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on March 23, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
Arent they just...how big is "too big" for a unit of greatswords?  :blush:

There was one fellow on here who used a unit of 40, but I think that was last edition.  He swore by them, though everyone thought him mad. 

Those plastic vikings look awesome.  Seem reasonably priced, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 23, 2010, 03:56:10 PM
I've had some success recently with a big unit of halberdiers, besides, I dont play to win, thats just a bonus if it happens and they look so pretty so I have them in my army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:04:58 PM
Apologies if this is old news but I just discovered that Gripping Beast are about to release plastic Vikings. Not really usable in an Empire army unless it's heavily themed along the lines of an Ulric warband etc.

http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=88)

Those vikings have no horns on their helmets....and everyone knows that horns for chaos are like skulls for empire. This is known and therefore those models suck.










 :happy: on a serious note they look great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 04:12:50 PM
I dont play to win, thats just a bonus if it happens


You play to lose?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:16:35 PM
I dont play to win, thats just a bonus if it happens


You play to lose?

Must be a very challenging and fun to play opponent.



Oh look .....i won ......














again.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
I need to buy the dopplesoldners (however you spell that). On the other hand, I've had the pikemen I bought sat around since December mostly unpainted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on March 23, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
This past December or the one before? 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
The most recent December. I want to get them finished, but I can't seem to motivate myself. I've been painting the Perry wars of the roses infantry instead, because they are much easier to do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on March 23, 2010, 04:46:45 PM
Look on the bright side, you're accomplishing something.  Those other guys will get done in time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Doppelsφldner

doppel = twice Sφldner =mercenary

because of their great skill and equipment the doppelsφldner wanted twice the money a regular mercenary earned and hence the name Doppelsφldner.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 04:54:28 PM
Thanks wissenlander!


And Fandir: I know what they are, and what the name means. I just can't spell it without looking it up!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 04:56:34 PM
learn some German it really helps with Landsknecht terminology   :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 23, 2010, 05:04:31 PM
I'm no good at languages, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 06:15:18 PM
How do you guys like these winged hussars on foot?

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002)

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 23, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Oh look .....i won ......


Keep dreaming...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 23, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
Oh look .....i won ......


Keep dreaming...

Damn you Soth!

*shakes his tiny High Elf fist in rage and despair*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 23, 2010, 08:27:15 PM
Well, Uryen sounds like my kind of opponent. He don΄t need to win to overwhelm you, you High elf pansie!  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 23, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
Well, Uryen sounds like my kind of opponent.


You need an opponent who tries to lose, in order for you to score a win?

:engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 24, 2010, 12:07:42 AM
Or just one that plays for fun, and takes the wins when they come as a bonus, even more so when they are acheived with a "fluffy" army...

The point being, 40 strong greatsword unit, yes please
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 24, 2010, 08:45:40 AM
I believe me and Uryen would be a rather evenly matched pair of opponents.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Nicholas Bies on March 24, 2010, 08:55:48 AM
those hussars and the dwarfs underneath have made me ignore everything anyone else has said this thread - which should have been reason to laugh and reply on it's own.

WOW...i want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 24, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
How do you guys like these winged hussars on foot?

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-002)

http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001 (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1547&product=DT_KRK-001)

Those are nice actually!

The first one has a bit of a giant shoulder pad though. Like Thatcher, or a Space Marine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2010, 03:22:10 PM

More tasty Perry releases. Plus a mention of dismounted MAA on the drawing board.

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/780028/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 29, 2010, 06:19:30 PM
Those look wonderful! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2010, 12:19:31 PM


Unit of 20 Artizan Greatswords: $32.75
Two boxes of 10 GW Greatswords: $82.50

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1776
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat50002&prodId=prod2120000

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 30, 2010, 12:27:18 PM
Don't forget that really big feather in the GW greatswords box though. That's worth $20 on its own.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on March 30, 2010, 03:28:49 PM
Holy crap those are wonderful miniatures. =)

Thank you for the heads up, I will definitely be taking advantage of that deal.

Thought: It would be intresting to do a "Tale of 4 Gamers" thing but have everyone assemble a regiment using alternate miniatures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on March 30, 2010, 03:51:27 PM
Thought: It would be intresting to do a "Tale of 4 Gamers" thing but have everyone assemble a regiment using alternate miniatures.

Damned good idea that. That could be the 'kick up the arse' I need to get my Artizan Empire/Araby army underway again.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 30, 2010, 06:54:05 PM
How about a "Tale of Four Treachery and Greed Summer Campaign Army Alternate Figure Gamers"

Actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea for getting some new troops on the field for the campaign.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on March 30, 2010, 06:55:20 PM
If you browse through the B&P, you'll see some of us have already started that.... although not neccesarily with alternate figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 02, 2010, 09:07:16 AM
http://wargamesfactory.com/_product_16676/Viking_Huscarls

Just been released, with more to come.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on April 02, 2010, 09:15:29 AM
Really nice! Would make for good Men of the Vaults and/or Khrone Maraduers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bedevere the Wise on April 09, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
Not sure if it belongs here, but I was looking for alternative models for Imperial guard and found Empress miniatures.

(http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/Assaltos1.jpg)

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart32.htm

Sculpted by Paul Hicks, and I am highly impressed by the amount of detail and realistic proportions of minis.
Not very useful for Empire, but my dreams about Mordian or Praetorian IG might live once more.

Regards,

Bedevere
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 12, 2010, 02:23:46 PM
Does anyone else think that the WotR plastics would do well with 6th ed swordsmen arms on them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 12, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
I was going to check that, but I couldn't find any swordsmen arms. I think it would look a bit weird even if it did work though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 12, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
Not sure if it belongs here, but I was looking for alternative models for Imperial guard and found Empress miniatures.

(http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/Assaltos1.jpg)

http://www.empressminiatures.com/userimages/procart32.htm

Sculpted by Paul Hicks, and I am highly impressed by the amount of detail and realistic proportions of minis.
Not very useful for Empire, but my dreams about Mordian or Praetorian IG might live once more.

Regards,

Bedevere

Hicksy's a mate of mine, he's been doing awesome work for years now, he's one opf the kingpin sculptors of historical material in 28mm.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 12, 2010, 08:06:54 PM
http://wargamesfactory.com/_product_16676/Viking_Huscarls

Just been released, with more to come.

Incredible value, worth having a look at the Gripping Beast plastic Vikings as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on June 05, 2010, 03:01:53 PM
I don't know if somebody mentioned it, but there's a company named Heresy miniatures :

http://www.heresyminiatures.com/index.htm
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on June 14, 2010, 09:39:17 AM
Midaski, could you please post a picture of your Perry wotr miniatures with 6th ed GW arms mentioned some pages ago?

8th edition rumours sound like i will have to stock up on infantry and i can't take myself to buy the 7th ed state troops. The Perry range looks great (and cheap!) but i won't need that many archers...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 14, 2010, 10:03:11 AM
Midaski, could you please post a picture of your Perry wotr miniatures with 6th ed GW arms mentioned some pages ago?


Not sure if I misled you, I mentioned it on page 5. I had cut off bits and bodies from the various sprues, but I haven't actually done much more than hold bits against each other with the Perry plastics yet.
As rufus and Finlay have said the Perry minis seem to be a bit taller and thinner. GW plastics tend to be a bit chunkier.

I am waiting for the second Perry set due later in the year, where they have command models and other weapons - I think Justnorth gave an early link to the 'greens' a few pages back in this thread.

I have been playing around more with the Warlord Pike & Shotte plastics as pictured in the Cheaper A:lternatives thread in the EF and the Miniatures Comparison sticky in the B&P.
The Warlord models have baggier clothing and so look chunkier, and go quite well with GW Ed.6 Soldiers arms I think.





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on June 14, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
Hm, i thought that the warlord miniatures were a bit short compared to GW, but a look at the miniature comparison thread told me that they are indeed better than the wotr miniatures, size-wise.
But it loks like they are harder to paint...
Also, what is the difference between royalist and parliamental Minis? The sprue shown on the warlords site is the same in both cases.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 14, 2010, 02:09:57 PM
In all honesty...nothing...

Later war there were some differences in clothing (especially with the introduction of the NMA), but early war they were indistinguishable. In Warlord Games terms...the two boxes come with different flags and info sheets, and cover art. Thats it.

If you are building a new army they are great value, heck even their metal figures are still cheaper than GW plasics! I totally reccomend their ECW cav for Empire Pistoleers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 14, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Oo, those Perry mounted lance men at arms are nice! Any word on the Perry pikemen and crossbowmen with pavaise?

I'd have loved some pavaise crossbowmen for EB, I only have 6 of the BRaganzas besiegers though :(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on June 14, 2010, 02:52:30 PM
Mirliton sell pavises separately.

A bit late though...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 14, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
I still have almost an entire army to paint.
But I think I have settled on my list.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 14, 2010, 05:22:52 PM
Also, what is the difference between royalist and parliamental Minis? The sprue shown on the warlords site is the same in both cases.

It is the same sprue as has been said with different box and leaflet /flags.

The other main point is the hats.
The bodies have the head on with long hair, but a sort of domed hairless head ( I know the feeling  :engel: ) and there are loads of different hats, so you have enough to make them look Parliamentarian or Cavalier.
There are a couple of morions also as I have used in my pics.

I suspect some of the other 'boxes' also have the same sprues and include 'bonnets' so they can be the Scots Covenantors.
They also sell metal hats on sprues of 4 and you can get 10 sprues for £3.00, so I have bought around 120 morions so I can give all mine a conquistador / estalian feel.
Indeed I plan to make up several units - painted in different colours which I can use altogether as a Estalian merc style army or split up to play ECW or 30 Years War historical rules sets.

With the Perry plastic figures having a slightly earlier period look, I want to try combining them with my older Bretonnian infantry which I think should achieve a more unified look.
Again one large army which could be Empire and then split for Medieval historical rules.

I have a fair few Foundry metal Norse/Vikings/Saxons which I hope to mix up with the Gripping Beast plastic Hirdmen, and possibly the Wargames Factory Vikings.

Flexibility from your minis - that's what we want



So far I've managed to avoid the Romans/Celts/Gauls era, with just one box of Warlord Celts infantry - which I reckon I can mix in withthe Vikings

:icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 14, 2010, 06:50:48 PM
I'd have loved some pavaise crossbowmen for EB, I only have 6 of the BRaganzas besiegers though :(



I'm in the same situation. Which is why I've done a Besieger's/pavise modeling article for the summer campaign...   :biggriin:

Edit: It's in the second newsletter: http://www.vanlijsebetten.be/peter/Issue2.pdf

The pavises were pretty quick/easy to make. I'm not certain of a good source for crossbowmen with heavy armour. The few I've got from Zvezda's now out of production(?) set are probably going to fit that role for me, but I'm not certain about other options. Maybe Empire militia with old armoured upper torsos, helmets, etc?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on June 15, 2010, 07:33:37 AM
Thanks Midaski, that clears things up.
Warlord games states on ther website: "The Morion packs have temporarily been taken off sale while we remake the mould.
They should be available to order again by the 21st June 2010."

Your bulk order has worn out their mould! :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 15, 2010, 10:50:55 AM
Thanks Midaski, that clears things up.
Warlord games states on ther website: "The Morion packs have temporarily been taken off sale while we remake the mould.
They should be available to order again by the 21st June 2010."

Your bulk order has worn out their mould! :ph34r:

Oh that's interesting. I was a bit disappointed with all the flash and the quality of some of them, but I clipped and filed away.
Maybe I should complain now .............

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on June 16, 2010, 05:14:13 PM
Hello knowledgable sages,

I have decided to purchase a WAB (AoA) Early Saxon Army, and was wondering if anyone has any figs from either:

http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/ (http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/) or http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=1 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=1).

Can anyone recommend one range/manufacturer over the other? Would the ranges mix? and am I missing even better early Saxon alternatives? Quality not price is my main consideration, but having never purchased figs from either company any feedback would be apprieciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 16, 2010, 05:55:15 PM
Wargames Factory is about to release two sets of Saxon warriors on foot, armored and unarmored.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 16, 2010, 07:26:12 PM


I think the WF Saxons will be more suitable for later Saxons. There are minor differences between those and the earlier Saxons. So it depends on how particular you are about it. The AoA Early Saxon list is characterized by more mobile, bucker-wielding invaders, as opposed to the later, more static shield-wall type infantry.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on June 16, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
At the moment I'm planning on early period, so bucklers, however I might check out the Shieldwall supplement first, as if I have the option to go for shields and end up with an army usable for two periods, that might change my mind.

Thanks for the heads up on WF  - tbh their website gives me brain-ache so I had never fully checkeed out their range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 17, 2010, 01:30:23 AM
Just keep in mind ... WF hasn't released their two boxes of Saxons yet, but they've already been to tooling, were advertised in a recent issue of Wargames Illustrated, and it is expected they'll be released soon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 17, 2010, 12:37:46 PM
At the moment I'm planning on early period, so bucklers, however I might check out the Shieldwall supplement first, as if I have the option to go for shields and end up with an army usable for two periods, that might change my mind.

I had considered that plan as well.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on July 06, 2010, 05:53:16 PM
Special offer by warlord games, i copied this from theris website:


In the Warlord office we’re all feeling a little bit down after England’s* World Cup performance. At time like this we find ourselves building more toy soldiers to cheer ourselves up. And we were doing just that when we realised that the entire country was probably feeling down and could do with a smile.

To help perk you up we’re not only giving you FREE SHIPPING on all orders placed during July but also launching our superb Plastic Fantastic! special offer.  Who needs footy when you can have free plastic miniatures…


PLastic Fantastic! is a simple but effective offer – you buy 3 Warlord Games plastic boxed sets and you can then choose a fourth absolutely FREE!

Choose your  three plastic boxed sets from the drop down menus here and then select a fourth box that will be sent to you gratis. That will help fill up all the time you had allocated to watching football. Just be careful not to cry in the paint…

Note: Sadly the Starter Army Boxed sets (Roman Starter Army and Pike & Shotte Battalia) are not available as your free plastic boxed set. Also this offer only applies to Warlord Plastic Boxed Sets and not to Perry Miniatures, Gripping Beast, Victrix, etc. No amount of pleading will change this, please don’t humiliate yourself by begging, it’s most unbecoming and not the way Warlord customers behave. You are better than that…

*  International customers may wish to substitute England for United States/ France/ Ghana / Korea Republic / Mexico / Slovakia / Chile / Japan / Portugal / South Africa / Greece / Nigeria / Slovenia / Algeria / Australia / Denmark / Cameroon / Serbia / New Zealand / Italy / South Korea / Cote d’Ivoire / Switzerland / Honduras (delete as appropriate)


Now, you can get 160 Pikemen/handgunners for 54 pounds. I am sure some miniholics will find an excuse to buy these. I just need an excuse my wife is content with...any ideas?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 06, 2010, 07:22:39 PM
I subscribe to their newsletter, so I have seen this ............

Just hope it continues for another few days - my credit card billing date is the 12th, and it's my birthday on the 13th so any order that day will not need paying off until early September

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 07, 2010, 01:08:46 AM
I'm resisting.  Too much on my work table at the moment anyway.

Funny advertisement though and thanks for sharing! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 07, 2010, 11:17:09 AM
Apparently it runs for the whole of July  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 13, 2010, 03:37:03 PM
There's a rules books deal on Warhammer Historical

http://warhammer-historical.com/acatalog/Warhammer_Ancient_Battles.html

Buy one get next at half price, and it works cheap book at £13.00 as the main one, and a £20.00 one at half price  :icon_exclaim:

Warlord have a WAB 2 specials deal on as well:
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6604

{and the actual book works out cheaper if you get it from them as you save £2 plus the £3.00 shipping}

The Wargames Factory Saxons are on their way to Northstar - have been shipped, so expected early next week.

I've had the day off and been broswing the UK sites for Wargames Factory stuff. The $19.99 boxes seem to vary from £13.49 to £15.50 but nobody seems to have a full stock.
I was trying to find a Chariot box, Roman Cavalry and a Celt/Germanic Cavalry box, and nobody had all three sets.
Is that an indication of their popularity?
Is it possible they suffer from us British supporting Warlord Games more?

Warlord's cavalry and chariots are metal, whereas the WF ones are plastic, so seemingly better value and more flexible.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 14, 2010, 03:45:33 AM

I bought some of Warlord's Celts. But the thing that's turned me off a lot of their subsequent sets is the fact that they've mixed metal with the same re-used plastic bits. If their Germans were all plastic, I would have bought some.

In fact, I'm not crazy about a lot of their metals in general. Part of that might be the paint jobs on the web page, though. But I can't be sure as I haven't got any of the metals. At least the plastics are cheap, too.

I was just poking about their page and noticed this, though:

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6601

Looks promising!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 14, 2010, 08:32:25 AM
I bought some of their ECW metal villagers and pikemen.
They are ok.

I too am not convinced about the idea of metal extras to convert the plastic warriors from Celts to Germans or Dacians - though of course GW Ed.5 Soldier boxes came with metal command bits and hangunner or xbow arms.  :closed-eyes:

The metal Chariots and Cavalry is also expensive compared to Wargames Factory plastic versions, and their rider sprues are different for the Celts and Germans.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 14, 2010, 01:17:54 PM
I didn't like the old GW plastic state troops with metal command bits either. IIRC, they did the same thing with Skaven and maybe some others.

Plastic to plastic and metal to metal are fine with me. But metal to plastic is a hassle. Especially when the metal bits are all on the upper half of the figure, making them top heavy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on July 18, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
Amen,

my 5th edition standard bearers still fall over to this day!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on July 18, 2010, 11:30:34 AM
Have you tried gluing something weighty (a coin will often suffice) into the underside of the base? Or is it THAT bad?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 18, 2010, 03:39:55 PM
I like the look of these:

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6776

12 multipose hard plastic cavalry - at I guess probably around £15.00  :biggriin:





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on July 18, 2010, 03:43:09 PM
Did someone suggest, in this thread, that I don't have to place maurauders on those large bases they're supplied with?
I'm going to be using a unit of celtic warriors as a unit of maurauders and I need to buy bases. Can I buy the small ones or do I have to use the larger ones?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on July 18, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
If your opponent is a dick, he will moan about you using the smaller ones. You could fight a clever legal battle though: the GW rule is that models generally have to be mounted on the bases they come with, but if you don't use GW models... *wink, wink* *nudge, nudge*

On the other hand: what would you rather be doing, arguing rules or playing the game? So I suggest using 25 mm.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 18, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
Did someone suggest, in this thread, that I don't have to place maurauders on those large bases they're supplied with?
I'm going to be using a unit of celtic warriors as a unit of maurauders and I need to buy bases. Can I buy the small ones or do I have to use the larger ones?

The question is what are they being used for?

If it's a Chaos army they should be on 25mm square I think.

If it's for your Brets or you wish to use them in another rules set as something else 20mm will be ok.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: 132nd on July 18, 2010, 04:40:33 PM
  Hey guys.  Just out of curiosity does anyone know any good US retailers or online stores where I could get decent looking (preferrably cheap and plastic) peasants or other stand ins for state troops.  I was going to use wargames factory celts, but I don't think they would fit to nicely into an Empire army. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2010, 02:38:36 PM


The two options I can think of are to either go earlier or later in time.

So one early option would be Saxons or other "dark-age" type stuff.  Right now that would mean Wargames Factory or maybe Gripping Beast. The unarmoured guys might look a little more convincing, as I think mail armour would seem a bit out of place in the Empire. (But that's just my opinion -- other people may like that sort of thing.) You'll be limited to just infantry in this case, as the cavalry will really look out of place in the Empire.

Closer in time would be the Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses figures. Right now they have a set with archers and billmen. Unfortunately (for Empire players), it's very heavy on the archers. Suitable for WotR, but not so great for state troop selections. You may be able to convert some of them with other weapons/arms.

The later option would be for the English Civil War figures, which would mean Warlord Games. You'd be somewhat limited to pike and handgunners, though you could probably convert some other troops. I think they've got cavalry as well.

In the case of cavalry, most other manufacturers' cavalry will look tiny compared to GW. So you may just wish to stick with GW or some alternate fantasy brand (metal.)

In terms of where to buy some of this in the US, I'd check The Warstore. I've had great service from them in the past, and they carry quite a bit. They've got everything mentioned above except Gripping Beast:

http://www.thewarstore.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: 132nd on July 19, 2010, 02:51:28 PM
  Have a pint on me for all your advice 023.    :::cheers:::  I've looked at the war store in the past, but since I had no idea what to buy I didn't go for it.  But, now based on your advice I can probably make a good decision.   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2010, 03:50:40 PM
 :::cheers:::

Whoops. I also forgot to mention something else regarding the Perry Miniatures.

In addition to the bow & halberd set they currently have, they are supposed to be releasing a second set with pikemen, crossbowmen & handgunners in the near future. Those might be worth waiting on, too.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 19, 2010, 10:14:45 PM
Closer in time would be the Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses figures. Right now they have a set with archers and billmen. Unfortunately (for Empire players), it's very heavy on the archers. Suitable for WotR, but not so great for state troop selections. You may be able to convert some of them with other weapons/arms.

You can make 24 halberdiers, including the command group. That's plenty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 26, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
I've just noticed that Vendel have been sold/taken over by SGMM in the USA.

I think the original Vendel team sold out to Stafford Games a year or so ago, and now that seems to have died too. Just checked the Stafford site and no mention of Vendel.
The SGMM site has renamed them 'Molon Labe' - and I have been trying to work that one out  ................... :engel:

I bought a lot of their elizabethans/reivers for my Estalian army a few years ago, and a couple of their elephants too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 28, 2010, 01:34:17 AM
I like the look of these:

http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=6776

12 multipose hard plastic cavalry - at I guess probably around £15.00  :biggriin:


Oooh... guess a little higher... £25.00  :-(

http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/cuirrasiers-4411-p.asp

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 28, 2010, 07:54:28 AM
Yeah I read it wrong.
On the box it says "12 Multipart plastic" which is as far as I got,  :icon_rolleyes: and I should have continued to read "and metal"

The horses are plastic, the riders metal, and I think some of the arms are separate.

As we discussed above - I am wary of WG's metals and their habit of mixing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 28, 2010, 08:07:29 AM
In addition to the bow & halberd set they currently have, they are supposed to be releasing a second set with pikemen, crossbowmen & handgunners in the near future. Those might be worth waiting on, too.

*drool*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 28, 2010, 03:15:00 PM
Yeah I read it wrong.
On the box it says "12 Multipart plastic" which is as far as I got,  :icon_rolleyes: and I should have continued to read "and metal"

The horses are plastic, the riders metal, and I think some of the arms are separate.

As we discussed above - I am wary of WG's metals and their habit of mixing.


I missed that too. They were a lot more appealing when they were all plastic.

Although metal riders on plastic horses is OK. They're sort of like separate figures you glue together. I just don't like mixing metal bits on plastic figures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2010, 06:57:51 PM


More new Perry Wars of the Roses stuff:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/254637/

All very nice figures. Really liking that bombard!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 03, 2010, 07:23:19 PM
I saw the 'greens' version a while back.

I am waiting for the second plastics box, and then I will probably look at mixing them with my old style metal Brets for a couple of Medieval armies.

Of course I will have finished my 5 WFB Empire Armies and my 600 WAB Ancients figures beforehand - when are they due out 2019 is it?


Actually as we are talking about ridiculous things - how are those models only £6 a pack for 6 models :icon_exclaim:   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2010, 07:47:12 PM
They don't have shareholders or an out of control marketing overhead to pay.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on August 03, 2010, 08:34:27 PM
Does anyone know when they are released? Also the second plastic box? Will make a nice unit of men at arms for the campaign when they are out.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 04, 2010, 09:43:06 AM
Awesome bombard! Amazing dismounted men-at-arms!

I need those.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 04, 2010, 09:58:31 AM
Those M@A attacking with polearms would make fantastic Doppelsφldner/Greatswords if you swap the halberds for hammers.

Great stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 04, 2010, 10:02:23 AM
Those M@A attacking with polearms would make fantastic Doppelsφldner/Greatswords if you swap the halberds for hammers.

Vandalism!

You could easily use them as greatswords without changing the weapons. No one would find that confusing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 04, 2010, 10:11:57 AM
You are right, but I simply like hammers as weapons. I've always been looking for suitable models, but haven't found any so far.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 04, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
Does anyone know when they are released? Also the second plastic box? Will make a nice unit of men at arms for the campaign when they are out.

I believe those in the announcement are available now.

I'm waiting on that second plastic box too. I haven't heard anything about it yet.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 04, 2010, 06:03:24 PM
There were some pics of greens a while back on TMP - and I think it was explained somewhere that with all the various stages of production it would be September.

In fact it might have been an email from them after I asked before Salute in April, or it might have been at Salute on their stand, ............. and it might actually have been November ............

Well what do you expect - I'm old. ................ You're lucky I remembered who the Perrys are. :engel:

Edit:
Remembered where my email folders are ............

"Hi Gents,
I see you have a stand at Salute –
Will the new second box of WotR be available or will you perhaps have some 3ups on show?
Mark"


Reply

"Hello Mark
 
We will only be selling our existing plastic ranges.
The next WoTR will be a few months yet.
 
Alan"



So that was April - define a few months - more than 3 = August.

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 05, 2010, 10:23:05 AM
Anyone had any dealings with Black Tree in the UK recently? I need a unit of dwarven hammerers but refuse to pay the frankly offensive GW price for them...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 05, 2010, 11:24:07 AM
Anyone had any dealings with Black Tree in the UK recently? I need a unit of dwarven hammerers but refuse to pay the frankly offensive GW price for them...

Yes - but although they have an address down in Cornwall on the site, I think most of the stuff is done from their Texas base.

There is another thread where I mentioned getting some of Camels from them - like Padre's - and just how long it takes to turn up.

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=33589.0

To sum up:
Plusses - Nice models - have had lots of stuff on sale for a while.

Minuses - No communication - Delivery for me was 4 weeks and then about 6/7 and one set is still to follow** - Said that they didn't take your money until the order was ready and my money came off my card same day I ordered - and although I was charged in GBP on the site, the credit card showed I was charged more as they had taken the payment in dollars.

** When my second order turned up there was a set missing, but I did get 7 extra infantry models - there was a note saying "sorry for delay - other set to  follow" but no mention of the extras, so I wasn't sure if it was an error, or a bonus to make up for the delay.


I get the impression  that they are run/owned by some older guys, and it is not full time business. They took over the old Harlequin outfit I think in the past.

Nice stuff but you need to be patient and be a bit tolerant.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 05, 2010, 11:39:48 AM
Thanks

given its £60 for a unit of 20 hammerers from GW or £14 for a unit of 18 from BTD...I'll suck it up and hope they get mine out quickly!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 05, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
This might be worth a look - an Independent review, I think, of the two plastic Viking boxes out at the moment.

http://www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=vikingFaceOff

Pictures and info.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 05, 2010, 10:13:26 PM
I was thinking about buying these to boost up my greatswords to 40 (thanks to Finlay :-)) http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1776
It says "The deal does not include a flag", what exactly does that mean? Does it mean that I can still paint a flag, like on GW figures, or don't they come with any banner at all?
If someone has picture of the sprue I would be most grateful :)

My friend asked me to ask you guys if you know if there is any good medieval knights out there? He plays brets and want to expand but like me he's low on cash and also like variety in his army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on August 05, 2010, 11:31:19 PM
If someone has picture of the sprue I would be most grateful :)

GG, they're metal, not plastic so you won't find any sprue pics.

These are the pics on the Artizan site.
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1750 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1750)
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1751 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1751)
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1736 (http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1736)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 06, 2010, 10:44:23 AM
He he I knew they were metal but I don't know what hmm "metal sprues" are called? Just models? :)
Either way, tanks for the pics, I guess it means I have to buy the flag as well? Who is the standard bearer and do I need to buy some kind of standard pole. the thing the banner i hanging on?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 06, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
A lot of metal manufacturers supply 'weapons' separately from the miniature, and you either get them loose in the blister/box, or have to buy them separately.

Some will do soft metal spears/halberds which usually arrive bent and are quite difficult to straighten out and keep straight.

A lot also offer 'spears' in different lengths - so javelins, spears or pikes - in steel which arrive straight, normally stay straight, and can be very sharp if you put your hand down on them by accident ..........  :engel:

If you look at the Artizan sight you will find a link to 'wires' or 'spears' and you can see what's available.

Some of the new plastics are coming with this 'open-hand' style - you get the weapons separately and they will fit/glue into the open hand of the model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 06, 2010, 01:29:58 PM
He he I knew they were metal but I don't know what hmm "metal sprues" are called? Just models? :)
Either way, tanks for the pics, I guess it means I have to buy the flag as well? Who is the standard bearer and do I need to buy some kind of standard pole. the thing the banner i hanging on?
The standard bearer just has a gap in his hand to place the pole on, and then afix the banner to that.
I will take some pics of them next to GW models.
Possibly not until sunday, as I do have a life to live. (and work to go to :( )
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on August 06, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
Yeah I read it wrong.
On the box it says "12 Multipart plastic" which is as far as I got,  :icon_rolleyes: and I should have continued to read "and metal"

The horses are plastic, the riders metal, and I think some of the arms are separate.

As we discussed above - I am wary of WG's metals and their habit of mixing.

Take a look at Renegade Miniatures (www.renegademiniatures.com (http://www.renegademiniatures.com)) - 9 all metal Cuirasiers for £12 if you buy the regimental packs
(http://www.fantasy-miniatures.de/fotos/wargamesstyle/renegadeecw/cuirassier/cuirassier12.jpg)

Other ranges include Chinese Waring states, late Saxons, and Punic Wars Early Republican Romans, Carthaginians, Celts, Spanish, Libyans and Numidians

Infantry regimental sets normally have between 20 to 24 figures for £11.95 including command.

These figures are on the large side and may actually be bigger than some of the GW figures


Also, the Conquest Games website is now up and running for plastic 28mm Norman goodness. Figures due for release next month
http://www.conquest-games.co.uk (http://www.conquest-games.co.uk)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2010, 10:20:20 PM

Yeah, Renegade is definitely one of the few manufacturers making cavalry to rival the size of GW. I don't have any of the ECW, but here's a shot of one of their Celts, along with a few other figures ( a couple GW)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp1.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp2.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 08, 2010, 04:29:22 PM
Quote
The standard bearer just has a gap in his hand to place the pole on, and then afix the banner to that.
I will take some pics of them next to GW models.
Possibly not until sunday, as I do have a life to live. (and work to go to :( )

That would be very nice indeed! Thank you kind sire!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 08, 2010, 04:40:49 PM
MY colleagues great grandad is dying, so I am covering his shift.
I'll post pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 09, 2010, 04:05:12 PM
Hope it turned out okey, looking forward for some pictures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 09, 2010, 04:23:17 PM
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/IMAG0081.jpg)

Next to a Flaggie

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg88/nottsfootballfan/IMAG0080.jpg)

Next to a 6th swordsman.

They are quite tall, although that is partly due to their base, the round metal bit at the bottom of their feet must add a good few mm.
You can also see the middle model is the banner bearer, with a hole in his hand (that you cant really see) for the banner pole.
I really want to paint these now. Sexy as hell models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Nicholas Bies on August 09, 2010, 04:27:11 PM
I really want to paint these now. Sexy as hell models.

They look like a lot of fun to paint!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 09, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
Yes.
The moulding is really crap though, much much worse than GW.
I desperately need a file, and cba to buy one...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Nicholas Bies on August 09, 2010, 04:35:42 PM
I was going through some of my Rackham figures today going "they'd be fun to paint" I also want to nab Konrad von Carstein. Really like that model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 09, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
Thanks Finlay! The size looks good and I think they will mix quite well with the new goldswords, if not I can run them as an independent unit. In the worst case if none-GW models is banned they were at least cheap so I guess I have nothing to lose:)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 09, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
Yes I think they will mix with the new goldswords too, as they have gone back to a more traditional empire theme of Puff and Slash, as opposed to the disgustingly shite 7th edition state troops.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on August 09, 2010, 05:25:40 PM
I just placed my order:) I must say it was very easy without any stupid unnecessary register things:)

Its mostly the stupid poses and faces that bother me right now. At least halberds and spearmen looks okey imo. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 18, 2010, 07:13:22 PM


Off in a totally different, non-Empire-y direction...

http://www.immortalminiatures.com/page84.html
http://www.immortalminiatures.com/page85.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 18, 2010, 09:20:31 PM
I think Fandir has some of these?

Are they like Warlord - one basic sprue and then different head/helmet options between the Classical and Spartan boxes?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 18, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
My understanding from the web page and email are that these new sets will use some of the existing plastic sprues, but also use some new plastic sprues. So no mixed metal & plastic, like Warlord.

Only the first set has been released. I'm exited about these, because they're from the later period, as opposed to the earlier period for which the first kit was more appropriate.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 18, 2010, 09:37:38 PM
I refuse to pay attention to them   :engel:

- I have no interest in that earlier period 
- I have far too many Romans and Barbarians already.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 19, 2010, 12:01:32 PM
I quite like the plastic Greeks. But really, what am I going to do with them?


I've ordered the new men-at-arms from Perry Miniatures. I expect them to be awesome.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 26, 2010, 10:23:44 AM
I've posted this in my Ramblings thread, but it deserves a mention in this thread.
You may be familiar with this

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat480008a&prodId=prod1120095&rootCatGameStyle=

Now look at this

http://www.dwarftales.com/galleries/5

Look at the female squire/ranger and click on the image for a full set.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on August 26, 2010, 11:06:49 AM
I refuse to pay attention to them   :engel:

- I have no interest in that earlier period 
- I have far too many Romans and Barbarians already.

 :engel:

Keep repeating it Mids...


It has never worked for me so far though....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 26, 2010, 08:04:32 PM


I'm not crazy about a lot of the more recent Foundry stuff. Their quality (both sculpting and casting) seems to be on the decline, while their prices continue to climb.

BUT... I just saw these in their e-newsletter and admit that a few (mainly the plague doctors) have caught my interest...

http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/collections/fantasy/undead/witch_craft_plague_doctors_and_witch_finders_collection_bcund002/?sector_id=

The witches and hunters look pretty bad, though.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 26, 2010, 09:03:02 PM
The aritzan landsknechts are so fun to paint!
bit of puff and slash, bit of metal, bit of skin, and a hat. BOSH
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 26, 2010, 09:10:10 PM
Wargames Factory have some new Plastic Persians on view.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/AnnouncementRetrieve.aspx?ID=35106


(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-kopis.jpg)

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-Apple.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 26, 2010, 09:22:30 PM

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-ready.jpg)

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Persian-bow.jpg)

I quite like the look of those ............

mmmmmmmm ..... more plastics
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on August 26, 2010, 09:31:36 PM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans. But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?

Has anyone seen the Celts (would make great Albions) and the Modern Zombies, of which I own 10 boxs that are to make my 40K Nurgle Daemons (Fydae Strain).

I think they are one of the better independent companies out there at the moment.
Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 26, 2010, 09:45:29 PM
The aritzan landsknechts are so fun to paint!
bit of puff and slash, bit of metal, bit of skin, and a hat. BOSH

I was finishing the pikemen this evening. Nearly.

They take forever! Maybe it's quicker if you do them in a uniform scheme.



Not keen on those Persians. Or the Foundry stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 26, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
Yes i imagine multi colours would be a pain.

That mine are half black obviously speeds it up! then just bleached bone, tausept ochre, iyanden darksun, and golden yellow final highlight for the yellow.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 26, 2010, 10:13:49 PM
That would be so much easier! Oh well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 26, 2010, 10:35:17 PM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans. But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?

Has anyone seen the Celts (would make great Albions) and the Modern Zombies, of which I own 10 boxs that are to make my 40K Nurgle Daemons (Fydae Strain).

I think they are one of the better independent companies out there at the moment.

As much as I like the WF Romans & Numidians, I'm not fond of those Persians. Their Celts are probably my least favorite of their sets.



They take forever! Maybe it's quicker if you do them in a uniform scheme.

Yes i imagine multi colours would be a pain.

Since all of my own stuff is multi-color, that's what I'm used to. When I painted a set of 16+/- of the Foundry landsknechts in a uniform color for a friend I was amazed at how much quicker they were!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on August 27, 2010, 12:31:02 AM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans.

They look quite nice to me. I'm far more tempted by those later (Peloponnesian War) Hoplites that 023 linked.  :icon_biggrin:.

But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?
Good question. Though the Immortal miniatures Hoplites will be hard to top.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on August 27, 2010, 06:44:31 AM
Wow those are nice ancient greeks, great poses. Looking forward to the armoured ones as well as the Spartans that they're doing.

Thanks for sharing there existance with me,
Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 27, 2010, 10:03:02 AM
meh, They don't seem as nice as their Romans. But if they are doing Persians are they doing Spartans?

I understood that WF themselves were not over happy with their Romans - first kit and they feel they could have done better, and it would be the first to be redone.
I have a box of 48 and they are OK, but I do feel the WG ones are better. With the Barbarian figures though I feel WF are way ahead.

I actually thought these Persians are pretty good - what are you comparing it to?

Just consider the value - the odds are that there will be around 30 in a box and the standard WF UK price seems to be £14.50
That's less than 50p (40c) a figure.

I doubt I will buy any - as I said back a page about the Immortal Greeks - I have to resist the time period.  :engel:

The Immortal plastics are ok - the one thing I do not like is the left arm sculpted on the shield - I hate that whoever it is - GW did it on some dwarfs and it was really naff.
 
* * * * * *


 (http://www.dwarftales.com/res/Nr9XN6HoTh/squire02.jpg)

No comments on this either :icon_question:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on August 27, 2010, 10:38:14 AM
I don't know why these persians dont do it for me, Its the armour and hat perhaps? I'll probebly change my mind when I see painted versions.

I liked thier Romans, maybe a little simple and chunky but for me they 'look' like Romans.
The Celts though, my Celtish blood says "Buy Buy" but my head says "Paint the 10 boxs of Zombies first you dolt!"

Price wise these guys have it spot on, Reasonable priced boxes that you get even cheaper if you buy in bulk. You can't fault them for that.

Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 27, 2010, 06:56:05 PM
I've started working on a static web page with a manufacturers list on my blog.

Right now I am focusing on ancient and medieval historical figures, and will start adding terrain manufacturers for those periods as well.

This is my first draft, I'm sure I missed some. If anyone's got any additions/suggestions, let me know!

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/p/28mm-figure-manufacturers.html

Thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on August 27, 2010, 06:59:42 PM
Looking good! I used to use "Miniatures Atlas" quite often but it seems have been down for some time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 27, 2010, 07:09:16 PM
I'm updating this as other companies come to mind -- so I think I've added five new ones in the past 15 minutes since my last reply.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 27, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
You can add black hat minis too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 27, 2010, 10:30:24 PM
http://www.newlinedesigns.co.uk/

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Medieval-Asia-16

http://www.scheltrum.co.uk/index.html

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?infoBox=1&cPath=165&osCsid=d98b731a0a1e81a7386bf5f0833096e9

http://ageofbattles.ru/index.php?lng=eng&nav=antient

possibly
http://www.hat.com/current28.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 28, 2010, 03:38:58 AM


Thanks.

I've got TAG & Scheltrum already -- though the latter only does historical terrain as far as I can find on their web page. Correct me if I'm wrong. The only miniatures I've found there are fantasy.

I added Newline and West Wind. I missed both of those somehow.

Pendraken & Age of Battle (aka Zvezda?) don't do 25/28mm, do they? I thought they were strictly 10mm& 1/72, respectively.  Again, correct me if I'm wrong -- I tried taking a quick look at both pages.

I added HδT because of their El Cid range.

I feel a bit like I should put a disclaimer on that one, though. All the pics I've seen look really awful. But I'm trying to avoid commentary. Because if I put something like that in, then I'll feel required to put a warning about ordering from BTD... then I'll want to comment that it's best to find a third party seller for Foundry... and the whole thing will become a mess. So yeah, just added them without comment.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 28, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
I feel a bit like I should put a disclaimer on that one, though. All the pics I've seen look really awful. But I'm trying to avoid commentary. Because if I put something like that in, then I'll feel required to put a warning about ordering from BTD... then I'll want to comment that it's best to find a third party seller for Foundry... and the whole thing will become a mess. So yeah, just added them without comment.  :wink:

It's useful to know those things though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 28, 2010, 09:26:34 AM
Scheltrum ...........  because ..........

.................. and will start adding terrain manufacturers for those periods as well.


 :engel:
They do do some Asian minis, but I think they are more 1440 onwards
http://www.scheltrum.co.uk/index.html

Pendraken do some 28mm - I bought some pikemen at Salute - not over impressed.
Maybe later period than you are are concerned with here.

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/28mm-c24/

Their website also seems to play up quite a bit .............

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 28, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
Yeah, that's getting a bit late. I may add Pendraken anyway, though.

Will also add Black Hat. I didn't realize they did historicals - I've only seen their fantasy stuff before. Good catch, Timbor.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 28, 2010, 02:25:04 PM

It's useful to know those things though.


Maybe I will go back and add foot-notes later.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 29, 2010, 10:13:30 AM
*pic from catsuit female goes here*

Argh, why did they have to add high heels and a silly cleavage?

Could have been decent otherwise.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 29, 2010, 03:23:54 PM
Rangers always wear stiletto heals. Give better traction in the wild, and helps with climbing.  :roll:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 29, 2010, 06:43:11 PM
Yeah, that's getting a bit late. I may add Pendraken anyway, though.

Will also add Black Hat. I didn't realize they did historicals - I've only seen their fantasy stuff before. Good catch, Timbor.

Yeah, I was looking at their halflings, then decided to make sure they had a link.  Some of the historicals are nice, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on August 30, 2010, 07:10:55 PM
Got 18 perry men at arms and they are great!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 30, 2010, 09:22:24 PM
Got 18 perry men at arms and they are great!


When did you order yours?

Mine haven't arrived yet.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on August 30, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
within 4 days. I got the single arc cannon as well and the foot characters.

Really nice. Going to paint them in the next few days along with the remaining plastic men at arms i've got.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 30, 2010, 10:35:38 PM
4 days!

I've been waiting at least 11. That's annoying.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 31, 2010, 05:08:05 AM
11 days?

That would have given you more time to write more battle reports.

Chop-chop!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 31, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
I'd love to, but I have no one to play right now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 31, 2010, 05:47:22 PM
Donnachaidh tells me that Gripping Beast - following the release of their Vikings back in April at Salute - have some plastic Saxons due out around November time.

I have hunted their site for evidence of this, without success so far, but the wily Scot is rarely wrong.

This is all damned annoying I can't decide which rules set to think about doing first - Romans/Barbarians, Dark Ages, Medieval or Fantasy.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 31, 2010, 06:16:15 PM
This is all damned annoying I can't decide which rules set to think about doing first - Romans/Barbarians, Dark Ages, Medieval or Fantasy.



What is this "decide" thing of which you speak?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 31, 2010, 07:01:54 PM
Did you read exactly what I wrote  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 31, 2010, 09:48:30 PM
Does anybody know how the gripping beast cavalry ranks up with GW stuff?  They have some nice early Russian stuff that would look good in a kislev army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 01, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
Did you read exactly what I wrote  :engel:


Huh?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 01, 2010, 05:21:27 PM
Did you read exactly what I wrote  :engel:


Huh?

There was no plan of action - a mere hint I might think about doing something ...........  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 06, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
Things appear to be on the move at Conquest. Test sprues are back from Renedra and they are 'playing' with them at the moment.
Sounds like they should be on sale later this month.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/C6Thumbnail.jpg)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/C5Thumbnail.jpg)

It also sounds like there will be some special initial deals - the box of 12 mounted knights will likely retail at £18.00 but there is talk of a starter price of £15.00, and 3 boxes for £40.00

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 06, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Any idea what the size of that base is? I'm curious how they scale up. I like the horse, but from what I saw of the 3-ups, the upper torso (shoulder/arm joint, mainly) of the riders looked inhuman. I'd like to see a front & back view to see if the actual figures look any better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 06, 2010, 05:42:27 PM
Ah, there it is...
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/C3forTGN-1.jpg)

 
The arm looks stuck onto the side of the chest, rather than coming from a shoulder joint.


Also, WTF is with the name. They had to pick a name almost identical to an existing miniatures company?

http://www.conquestminiatures.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 07, 2010, 12:21:15 PM
Does anybody know how the gripping beast cavalry ranks up with GW stuff?  They have some nice early Russian stuff that would look good in a kislev army.

Not all that well really. Here's an example:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/comp1.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f207/sparky_sparkfire/Empire/comp2.jpg)

Emperor Basil II next to Marius Leitdorf. GW horses are much larger than Gripping Beasts. But I think it would look OK if you avoid mixing both types together in one unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 07, 2010, 10:15:15 PM
Thanks for the picture!  The GB horses look like they are at least bigger than the old glory ones.  I have 10 OG polish hussars that probably will never be used for that reason...

The riders don't look that different from GW ones either - could they fit on standard GW horses?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 07, 2010, 11:35:02 PM
I think the legs aren't wide enough to fit GW horses.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mecha Coby on September 07, 2010, 11:37:43 PM
Could always shave the saddle down so they fit or use the smaller horses as Steppes/plains horse were smaller than your average charger.

Still those Norman Knights  :unsure: look cool
Mark
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on September 08, 2010, 05:12:45 AM
I think the legs aren't wide enough to fit GW horses.

Prudent bastards!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2010, 10:06:51 AM
The arm looks stuck onto the side of the chest, rather than coming from a shoulder joint.

That's a 3-up isn't it?
Looking at the latest pics on the forum of a made-up unit it would seem that the arms are separate, so that may be an anomaly. There is something odd about it as it looks in that picture though.
Still 12 mounted knights for around £15 will do for me.


Also, WTF is with the name. They had to pick a name almost identical to an existing miniatures company?


Well they are making Normans and "The Norman Conquest" is a very well known phrase in the English Language.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 08, 2010, 01:47:29 PM
Well they are making Normans and "The Norman Conquest" is a very well known phrase in the English Language.



I get where the name comes from. Great name -- if someone else didn't already use it. It's an exceptionally bad marketing & identity choice given that it's almost identical to another miniatures company (Conquest Miniatures), and apparently a board game company making plastic gaming pieces (Conquest Gaming.)


Watch what happens when I type "conquest games miniatures" into Google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=WUL&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=conquest+games+miniatures&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Conquest Miniatures (different company, already in existence & producing miniatures for years) comes up at the top of the page. Going through the first five pages of results, the Conquest Games site is nowhere to be found.


A query of "conquest games" returns:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=kVL&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=conquest+games&aq=f&aqi=g8g-m2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Another competitor called Conquest Gaming, who make "plastic miniatures" for board games, etc. And once again, Conquest Games is nowhere to be found in the first few pages of results.


The only way I found their page was to go to Table Top Gaming News & look for an article about them, then follow the link.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 08, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
Why not just call it "Hastings" and be done with it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2010, 02:39:07 PM
I just did your second link search and they were 4th one down ................ ?

It is quite possible that they haven't thought about 'optimising' their website yet - they haven't finalised it yet, and they don't have any product available.

I take your point, but then you could make a similar observation about words like "Wargames" - coming up with new original names could prove awkward.
I suggested they used Conquest because of their first range being Normans, but the word does not conflict with any other future races or eras.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 08, 2010, 02:50:19 PM



Might be a regional thing - the 4th link down when I click that is for an online video game.

At least "wargames" is a generic, descriptive term. Like a bakery having the word "bakery" in their title.

But if someone named their new company "Wargaming Foundry" or "Gaming Workshop" on the other hand, it would be just as bad a choice, IMHO. People still get confused between Game Designers Workshop and Games Workshop, for example.



Back to the figures... I tracked down their forum and saw the pics, but they were a bit small and blurry. The arms in the other poses (lifted) looked better. I'm curious to see some of these in the flesh.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 08, 2010, 02:57:21 PM
Back to the figures... I tracked down their forum and saw the pics, but they were a bit small and blurry. The arms in the other poses (lifted) looked better. I'm curious to see some of these in the flesh.

Yes I have seen them - there is a new close-up of the champion with a sword, and I cannot see a join at the shoulder of any of the models - which makes me wonder whether the mail is all part of the body, and the 'arm' fits where the mail ends just above the elbow.
This is not a good thing - I find that restricts your posability.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 13, 2010, 02:44:15 PM
I need to buy this:

http://thunderboltmountain.com/serendipity/uploads/Squidboy.JPG
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on September 13, 2010, 03:23:45 PM
 :eusa_clap:.

I've put in my pre-release order for these.... http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/mini_angels.jpg (http://www.crooked-dice.co.uk/store/mini_angels.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 13, 2010, 03:28:33 PM
I need to buy this:

http://thunderboltmountain.com/serendipity/uploads/Squidboy.JPG


I was just looking at those. You really should get that & use it in your army.

Don't know what I will use it for, but I want the Slug Eat Your Face too. The whole range is amazing (well, everything Tom Meier does is amazing!)




Anyone else catch the announcement of this:

http://wargamesfactory.com/announcements/first-orc-render

(http://wargamesfactory.com/Images/orc_render.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on September 14, 2010, 06:20:16 AM
Looks like an excellent hobgoblin except for the slab for a shield.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 14, 2010, 09:18:35 PM


Thought I'd share a link to a recent entry on a blog I follow. Foundry & Mirliton used as Swiss, beautifully painted. Great banners, too.

http://menix-miniatures.blogspot.com/2010/09/early-swiss-some-more.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 17, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
I've just had a Foundry email where they state they are now stocking some GW stuff :icon_exclaim:

I know there's a fair amount of history between the two companies, but I find this hard to understand. Rumours that Foundry are not particuarly profitable have been around for a while, but is this a positive step.

On the other hand a cynic might say the two most overpriced manufactuers in the industry getting together is not surprising ..............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 17, 2010, 08:37:39 PM
I got the same email, and it surprised me too.

Mind you Foundry, while they have some lovely stuff, seem not to have noticed a LOT of other people now do stuff just as good for a LOT less cost, and while fantasy gamers might pay over the odds, historical gamers wont...and the Foundry stuff doesnt have the difference in quality it used to.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 17, 2010, 09:05:39 PM

and the Foundry stuff doesnt have the difference in quality it used to.


Definitely not. And in fact, I'd say their most recent figures (past few years, at least) are not as good as the competition. (At least some of which is offered by some of their own previous sculptors!)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 20, 2010, 04:38:28 PM
Northstar has announced the new Artizan Landsknecht Halberdiers - but no picture yet.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1822
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 21, 2010, 11:12:48 AM
Northstar has announced the new Artizan Landsknecht Halberdiers - but no picture yet.

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1822

That's good news.


My Perry men-at-arms arrived yesterday, about a month late.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 23, 2010, 12:12:09 PM
Oooh I like this - no high heels either ..................

http://www.dwarftales.com/

New Hetman - a click in the top left corner will show more images
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 23, 2010, 12:23:29 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 24, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
I've just had a Foundry email where they state they are now stocking some GW stuff :icon_exclaim:

I know there's a fair amount of history between the two companies, but I find this hard to understand. Rumours that Foundry are not particuarly profitable have been around for a while, but is this a positive step.

On the other hand a cynic might say the two most overpriced manufactuers in the industry getting together is not surprising ..............  :engel:

My take on it is that Brian Ansell is trying to keep Foundry solvent so the books look better to a prospective buyer for Foundry than would otherwise be the case. If the figures on the ledger drop away then so does his asking price. ;-)
Ansell has been trying to flog Foundry for around 5 years now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 28, 2010, 08:49:04 AM
I'd have thought a better option for him would have been getting a deal with the likes of Maelstrom going to sell foundry stuff...it might make it affordable, even if P&P is a sensible price!
Title: TAG puffy sleeves
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2010, 11:27:35 AM
I don't recall seeing these maximilian guards from TAG here:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_2544.jpg)

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1)

Very "Marienburg". Looks like I'll need to add them to my next order.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2010, 11:59:13 AM
Oh, they have useful papal guard too, in their Italian (~Tilean) range:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_2517.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
Conquest's Norman Knights are nearly ready.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/normanregimentphoto1.jpg)

Sounds like they will have some at SELWG on Oct 17th
Title: Re: TAG puffy sleeves
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 03, 2010, 07:27:57 PM
I don't recall seeing these maximilian guards from TAG here:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_2544.jpg)

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=1319&cat=125&page=1)

Very "Marienburg". Looks like I'll need to add them to my next order.

I bought a pack of those, just to see how they were. Also a pack of Italian handgunners and Italian pike. They look just slightly leaner/smaller than the Foundry figures. I'll post pics in the B&P when I get some cleaned up and at least primed, if not painted.

Both the Maximilian and Papal sets seem to be possibly based on the same set of 4 dollies, from the poses of the legs  (though the arms are different.) But I find the difference in head size between those two pictures to be a bit... odd.  :|

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 03, 2010, 08:40:51 PM
I was looking through TAG's Ottoman range just last week as I'm currently working on my Araby army. Unfortunately my army is based around an early medieval look rather than renaissance so I can't really mix in any Ottomans without them looking somewhat out of place. (A couple of cannon may be the exception).

However ... if anyone else is thinking about an Araby army (using the Empire list), these are definitely worth a look:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/files/detailed_images/d_522.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on October 04, 2010, 12:05:18 AM
Change the turbans into fur hats, and you have Kislevites. :)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: InsideReticle on October 05, 2010, 07:39:45 PM
I'm looking to get a whole bunch of plastic halberd wielding infantry cheaply and I live in the US.  I like the perry miniatures War of the Roses infantry, but you only get 18 billmen (which I would use as halberds), and 18 archers, which are basically useless to me.  Maybe I could just add halberd arms to the archer bodies and stick them in the back?

I was/am a fan of the Zvezda Royal Infantry from the stickied mini comparison thread but I'm getting the impression they are out of business (or at least that those minis are out of production), and it seems they'd be difficult to get in the US.

Any suggestions for good manufacturers or carriers?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 06, 2010, 12:30:05 AM
Not sure you will find much in the 28mm range for plastic halberdiers if you are looking a landschneckt type scheme.  warlord games has their pike and shotte range - the pikes could be converted to halberds.  Otherwise, you could convert minis from their viking or roman ranges.  The same goes for wargames factory.

I would suggest getting the perry miniatures troops and try to find some 5th ed halberd arms for converting the bowmen.  Otherwise, look for used minis.

How cheap are you looking for?  Artizan just came out with some beautiful metal halberdiers at about 1.13 GBP per figure, compared to 1.5 GBP per figure for the crappy empire plastic state troops.  If you want it much cheaper, I would look for used stuff.

Artizan halberds:
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1822.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 06, 2010, 05:52:42 AM


I agree.

You'll not find many other plastic halberds beyond the ones you mentioned (Perry, Zvezda.) But as Timbor mentioned, many of the metal historical figures are available at a similar (or less) price to GW's plastic.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 06, 2010, 05:21:39 PM
are there any manufacturers with a halfling / hobbit range?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 06, 2010, 05:43:09 PM


Mirliton
Goblin Factory (don' t know if they ever posted pics of their halflings, but I've got some photos)
Black Hat
Black Tree Design (with the usual warning that your figures may take anywhere from 12 days to 12 months to actually show up)

Those are the ones I can think of quickly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 06, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
I've got several of these .......

http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/halflings_11.html

... they're 'ugly' style, so they should suit you.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 07, 2010, 10:32:33 AM
Some more listed here:

http://doc.frothersunite.com/minis/halflings.html (http://doc.frothersunite.com/minis/halflings.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on October 08, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
Donnachaidh tells me that Gripping Beast - following the release of their Vikings back in April at Salute - have some plastic Saxons due out around November time.

I have hunted their site for evidence of this, without success so far, but the wily Scot is rarely wrong.

'ere you go

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/GB_Saxons.jpg)

Slaintι,
Andy
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GambitGriffin on October 11, 2010, 11:01:45 PM
Just a quick question about artizans minuatures:
What kind of wire do you use for banners and pikes? Do you buy them from artizans or can you use something else?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 13, 2010, 08:53:10 PM
I have not used Artizan ones, but I am pretty certain others have and they are good.

I got mine from Warlord Games most recently, but I have had Foundry in the past, and bought odd packs at Salute shows in the past.
Generally steel spears stay straight. Lead or white metal ones will bend if you breathe too hard on them.
Lots of manufacturers offer the steel spears these days and whilst there is some variation in the actual spear tip 'look' they are all pretty reasonable.
I think the average going rate is about 80 for £5.00 and tha usually applies whether you get 40mm, (javelin) 80mm (spear) or 100mm (pike) length ones.
I believe you can just buy 'wire' and then flatten an end and file it to a point. I suppose you could save money by buying 100mm ones already with a point, and cutting off 40 0r 50mm and then making your own points on the second piece and hey presto you have twice as many spears ...............

Part Two

I'd like some opinions from members with knowledge of a couple of manufacturers?

I see a lot of Minifigs models on ebay, but the pics are always rubbish - they look rather plain. I have assumed they are a mass manufactured range probably sold in toyshops?
Anyone care to comment.

Similarly I have made a comment earlier today in the special offers sticky that a lot of Renegade Miniatures figures look to have overlarge disproportionate heads to me?

I have this opinion of a couple of other manufacturers too - Curtleys (Chinese) and Pendraken.
This thread seems to have remained fairly popular - I wonder if we should look at compiling a reference somewhere of 'reviews' of manufacturers.
I know 023 was up to something like a directory.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 15, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
Foundry, Artizan, Perry Miniatures and others make steel pikes, spears and javelins. The only ones I've used were the Artizan pikes and I thought they were pretty good.

I usually make my own out of uncoated steel florist wire. I think 18 gauge (US) is the usual size I use. For pikes, I cut them to about 3x the height of the figure, then flatten and cut the point.

Somewhere I had an illustrated example of how to make pikes that way. I did have a directory started, but I've fallen behind on it. If I get a chance to update it (especially when I paint up some of the TAG and other figures I've recently received) then I will add the pike thing as well.

Here's the link, but as I said, it's very out of date. I've posted newer stuff here (like the stuff in the campaign newsletters) that still needs to be added.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 15, 2010, 11:40:40 PM
I'd like some opinions from members with knowledge of a couple of manufacturers?

Minifigs have been around for donkey's. They were based in Southampton untill recently and are now owned by Caliver Books. I had a few 15mm figures many years ago which were ok at the time but I've never paid any attention to their 25mm ranges; as far as I know they are 25mm figures as Minifigs were one of the few companies which didn't increase their scale to 28mm.

The only Renegade miniatures I have are WW1 which are mediocre at best. They're not bad value for money, mainly because they're so cheap, but they do have... "overlarge disproportionate heads". If you're after real quality I wouldn't recommend them although their other ranges may be better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2010, 05:49:48 AM


The only Minifigs I've seen (painted for a commission years ago) were... "dated" looking. But they may have been older figures, I don't know if they have newer sculpts. But the ones I saw looked like 70s or early 80s sculpts.

I also have Renegade WWI (French) and Celts. They are larger figures. More "heroic" scale like GW. Ridiculous weapons included. Some of the Celts look a bit like "cabbage patch " dolls. Renegade are some of the few historical cavalry that come close to GW sized cavalry.



(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minis/earlyWWIF01.jpg)


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp2.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp1.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/brbcomp02.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 19, 2010, 10:35:18 AM
I bought some Renegade Saxons last week in the Northstar sale.

Warbands of 24 for £12.00 and 40 for £20 supposedly, based on Renegades normal blister size of 8 models.
However the blisters turned up yesterday with 10 models in each ........

So I got 80 men for £32.00 - bargain.
The sculpts are ok too -the heads size does not seem too bad.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 19, 2010, 11:48:39 AM
Why would anyone want French World War miniatures?  :engel:

It is like using wood elves in 8th edition.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 19, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
Because they fought well during the war.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 20, 2010, 10:51:31 AM
Yes like the Italians  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 21, 2010, 12:57:10 AM
I have a WW1 French army, late war (my stuff) has a completely differtent look and feel to early war (023's minis -above). I've built my WW1 french using Brigade Games figures which are really nice; I'd have listed Brigade as an "Other Manufacturer" but they don't do much in the way of earlier periods. Their pirates & swashbucklers line may be usable for some Empire (pirate) armies and also some or their Pilgrims if a witch hunter army is what you're after.

... Sorry Fandir, but french "cheese-eating surender monkey" gags work well if you're talking about WW2 but WW1 was a different matter entirely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 21, 2010, 02:49:30 AM


Apparently there was an ad for the second set of Perry Wars of the Roses plastic in a recent Wargames Illustrated. Someone at the WAB forum reported that it stated...

Quote
From the advert: ......... contains 40 multi-part figures which can be assembled as pikemen (up to 18), crossbowmen (up to 12) and handgunners (up to 12 models) as well as command. It includes 12 european polearm heads which are designed to customise the arms carrying pikes, also seperate pavises, targes/bucklers and sword arms.



And also a link from the same forum. About 2/3 of the way down the page are 10 pics of Italian Wars games (after the El Cid, but before the Greek stuff.) In terms of other manufacturers, I spotted Foundry, Front Rank, Old Glory and I think a few GW as well, plus some others I'm not to sure of.

http://darrellhindley.co.uk/?m=201010
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 21, 2010, 08:49:43 AM
I have a WW1 French army, late war (my stuff) has a completely differtent look and feel to early war (023's minis -above). I've built my WW1 french using Brigade Games figures which are really nice; I'd have listed Brigade as an "Other Manufacturer" but they don't do much in the way of earlier periods. Their pirates & swashbucklers line may be usable for some Empire (pirate) armies and also some or their Pilgrims if a witch hunter army is what you're after.

... Sorry Fandir, but french "cheese-eating surender monkey" gags work well if you're talking about WW2 but WW1 was a different matter entirely.

The free French also fought valiantly in ww2 as did the Italians I just wanted to throw out some bait and see who bites...but too many history geeks on this forum  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on October 21, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
...but too many history geeks on this forum  :happy:

 :eusa_clap:. Excellent. ' Mind if I sig that bit?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 21, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
no go ahead  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 22, 2010, 07:20:17 PM
Good thing that, we history geeks ruining Fandirs lame jokes.  :closed-eyes:  And a people who lost their last two wars should be more careful when throwing war jokes around.  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 24, 2010, 05:45:05 PM
I want to mention that I have now ordered 2 boxes of Warlord games Conventanter infantry. The Site selling was raising their prizes on Warlord stuff and I felt it was now or never. Much was on order but they had Convenanters in stock. 2 boxes of Scots in berets for me, thank you! The prize have been roughly 15 Euro for the standard 40 men infantry box for their pike and shoote stuff.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 24, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
Well I found these

http://www.victrixlimited.com/news-66-8th-August-Greek-Hoplites-sets (http://www.victrixlimited.com/news-66-8th-August-Greek-Hoplites-sets)

 :happy: so now I try to find a German supplier of these wonderful miniatures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 24, 2010, 10:02:38 PM
Fandir man! Those minis rocks! Makes me want to assemble a hoplite phalanx!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 25, 2010, 09:26:06 AM
I think they are pretty cheap too...like the immortal ones with two boxes of these and one box immortal and the stuff I already have and those freeboter bases and finally some means to transport my armies without destroying half of my painting work I guess I will have a nice Lizardmen army.

With three big blocks of 30 Saurus Spear Athenian Elf Hoplites 120 of those suckers with some peltasts around....= sweet.

(I think about using the skinks more as skirmishers 12 inch moving and 12 inchs throwing poisoned spears is not too bad in my book hitting on 5+)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 25, 2010, 10:08:26 AM
Certainly not too bad and very cool to boot. Peltast and hoplite combo! Yes!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Moxer on October 25, 2010, 10:58:26 AM
Fandir,  http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/ (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/) sell Victrix models  (look in the "Historische Miniaturen" section). I bought some other stuff at this place, they offer good service, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 25, 2010, 11:04:54 AM
I know they are excellent...and they always put candy in the boxes too. But they don΄t have the Greeks in the store yet at least they don΄t offer them online but I send them an email and asked them if they could get their hands on them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on October 25, 2010, 01:23:32 PM
This is hilarious, actually. Fandir practically lives in that shop, Moxer...


 :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 25, 2010, 11:16:49 PM


Apparently there was an ad for the second set of Perry Wars of the Roses plastic in a recent Wargames Illustrated. Someone at the WAB forum reported that it stated...

Quote
From the advert: ......... contains 40 multi-part figures which can be assembled as pikemen (up to 18), crossbowmen (up to 12) and handgunners (up to 12 models) as well as command. It includes 12 european polearm heads which are designed to customise the arms carrying pikes, also seperate pavises, targes/bucklers and sword arms.


Want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 25, 2010, 11:28:14 PM
I think the original forecast was November ................... early Christmas to go with my Conquest Games knights .........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 31, 2010, 10:41:03 PM
Conquest Games Knight sprues:

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/NormanKnightsComSprue.jpg)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/NormanKnightsCavSprue.jpg)

and they are selling the horses separately:

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/MedievalHorseSprue.jpg)

They will be at Crisis in Antwerp this Saturday coming - Nov 6th

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on November 12, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
The long awaited perry mercenary box is due for release in the second week of december and is avaialble for pre order.

Quote
I will post pictures of the new Mercenary 1450-1500 plastic box very shortly, just as soon as I stick a box's worth together. You can pre-order them, but you might want to see pictures first! Their code is WR 20, and the price is £18.00 GBP + P&P. To pre-order, just order as normal and we'll get them out to you as soon as we get them in, which should be around the second week in December. Of course, we won't charge you until the order is about to be sent.

there is also some light cavalry coming out.


This month, there are three codes for the Wars of the Roses in the form of scurrers (or currours/scourers/aforeriders or prickers, take your pick!).

Linky : http://theminiaturespage.com/news/560962/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/560962/)

looks like my chaos may get put on hold while my DOW gets bigger.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 14, 2010, 05:22:00 AM
I finally picked up a box of the plastic WoTR figures from Perry Miniatures. They look great. My next decision will be what to do with them. Expand my Burgundian army? Start up a WotR army?

I also picked up the mounted command pack with Warwick, Salisbury & Richard. I wanted to check out the metal figures, and that pack seems to have a lot of character.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on November 14, 2010, 12:17:30 PM
I've been using mine for a DOW army. I've converted a unit to pikemen already so looking forward to having another unit of pike for a lot less trouble. As they are £18 i'm hoping it will be the basic sprues with an additional weapon sprue. Maybe without the command sprue as they are selling them separately now. This will allow me to use the halberds/bills on the bodies i've saved from the two boxes i've bought as I didn't want more than 24 archers and there is a limited number of halberd arms.

I really like the prickers as well. Will make a good unit of unbarded heavy cavalry. The ones in scouting positions are really characterful. This perry range has made my border princes DOW army really cheap. I've spent less than £80 and got my characters, cannon. 14 halberds, 28 pike 24 men at arms in full plate and polearms, 24 archers, 4 ogres with GW, a cannon and a ribaldaquin.

A unit of 15 heavy cav will cost a bit, £45+ really, but 2 boxes of mercenaries will yield 35 pike, 20 xbows, 16 halberdiers and 10 handgunners; and all that lot will only cost £33 from maelstrom.

I suppose by removing the wizard and ogres I could use them for historical gaming?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 15, 2010, 02:06:17 AM
Sure.

Mix of everything... pike, halberd, crossbow, bow/longbow, handgunners & various cavalry would probably work for Burgundy, various German forces, some Italians all around the second half of the 15th century.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 18, 2010, 04:22:16 PM
For those of you debating about the Landsknechts .........

Artizan prices are going up December 1st.

Just as 4 new sets come out.

Halberdiers attacking
Command 2
Looters
Officers

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 18, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
How much are their prices increasing?  Any idea when they will release pictures of these new minis?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 19, 2010, 06:31:28 PM
How much are their prices increasing?  Any idea when they will release pictures of these new minis?

Prices - no idea - it was a 'tweet'

New models are in next week, and currently they are showing at current pricing levels.

On another note Caliver have this picture up on their site, and a price of £16.00

(http://www.caliverbooks.com/images/covers/mercenaries.jpg)


Quote
   Description:
 "40 Hard Plastic Figures. There is a fair amount of variety of arm/weapon choice, allowing you to make up to 18 pikemen, up to twelve crossbowmen, and up to twelve handgunners plus four command. In addition, there are twelve pavises, 15 bucklers/targes, drum arms, two-handed sword arms, and swords in scabbards."




Still nothing on the actual Perry site though?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 19, 2010, 07:39:43 PM
Oh my! You are getting spoiled with choices in Britain!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 19, 2010, 09:40:18 PM
Oh my! You are getting spoiled with choices in Britain!

Caliver's good for outside the UK also. There's a low threshold for qualifying for free worldwide shipping. I ordered from them to the US and was happy -- I recommend them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on November 20, 2010, 09:18:39 PM
The sprues are up on TMP now and in the pre order section of maelstrom for £16.20
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 21, 2010, 05:09:52 AM
Looks like Renegade will soon be producing Wars of the Roses figures as well. Small pic of some greens up on their site.

http://www.renegademiniatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
Perry Mercenaries Sprues


Command Sprue

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2010/nov/713308b.jpg)

Trooper Sprue

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2010/nov/713308c.jpg)


You get 2 Command and 3 Trooper Sprues

List of all the bits

Quote
40 x torsos (36 from WR 1)
60 x heads (36 from WR 1)
18 x pikes with arms
18 x left arms for above
12 x crossbows with arms
6 x left arms for above
12 x handguns with arms
3 x left arms for above
12 x crossbow quivers (3 with windlass and 3 with cranequin attached)
15 x targes/bucklers
12 x pavises (2 types)
12 x polearm heads (4 types)
2 x drums and arms
2 x drum stick arms
2 x hand and a half sword arms
2 x left arms for above
12 x swords in scabbards
4 x scabbards
2 x standard pole arms
2 x mace arms
4 x sword arms
2 x dagger arms
2 x command arms


It looks like the bodies on the Trooper sprue are the same as in the first WotR set. There seems to be a bit of this happenning in the plastics market - sprues are made in 'sections' which can be combined differently.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 22, 2010, 02:28:36 AM
Yes, that does seem to be the trend.  I for one am not too worried about it - so long as there are enough variants to keep it interesting - looks like there are 12 perry troop body variants, if all those on the sprue are different.

I don't mind either if the bodies fit the bill.  When you look at some of the classic GW metals, many of them seem to re-use the same body sculpt, with different head/arm variants, so it doesn't seem to be that new of an idea.  Just as long as they don't provide fully armoured bodies for light skirmishers, or vice versa...

What's the point in making 40 different body types for rank and file troops when they just get ranked up together anyway, and the main distinction between them is the head and weapons?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2010, 04:03:31 AM


Pics of someone's painted Normans from Conquest (not mine!):

http://getback-wargamingprojects.blogspot.com/2010/11/conquest-normans-pictures.html



Yes, that does seem to be the trend.  I for one am not too worried about it - so long as there are enough variants to keep it interesting - looks like there are 12 perry troop body variants, if all those on the sprue are different.

I don't mind either if the bodies fit the bill.  When you look at some of the classic GW metals, many of them seem to re-use the same body sculpt, with different head/arm variants, so it doesn't seem to be that new of an idea.  Just as long as they don't provide fully armoured bodies for light skirmishers, or vice versa...

What's the point in making 40 different body types for rank and file troops when they just get ranked up together anyway, and the main distinction between them is the head and weapons?

I generally agree with all of this.

My recent photo in my blog of the Foundry landsknecht handgunners show that they were all done on one body, but with 8 head variants. I think that's just a bit too "samey" though. I prefer when something is more like when Old Glory mixes 4-6 bodies with 6+ heads to create a big batch of variety.

But it also depends on the troop type. For "regular" troops I don't mind a lot of repetition. Whether it's Roman legion, Macedonian phalanx, Seven Years War infantry or whatever. But for "irregular" troops, like ancient Germans, Irish warbands, medieval levies, etc. I prefer a little more variety.

That said, from looking at the one Perry set I got, but haven't had time to assemble, I think it's an excellent balance. Quite a nice set.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 24, 2010, 06:18:13 PM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Stradiots-Genitors-and-Italian-Lancers-168

Lancers, Stradiots & Genitors for the Italian Wars
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 24, 2010, 08:31:40 PM
Upcoming releases from Eureka that show some potential. Italian Wars 'archers' which are the retinue the gendarme was meant to bring with him. Each figure comes with a choice of lance arm or open handed arm with a random hand weapon - hammer, axe, sword.

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1b.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1c.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1d.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1i.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1l.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1k.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1j.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1e.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1f.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1g.jpg)

(http://www.chronofus.net/wargames/eureka/100club/renaissance/iwa1h.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 27, 2010, 11:56:21 PM
The Artizan new Landsknechts pics are up ........

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?lat=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 28, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
The looters are nice. Not as nice as the Paul Hicks one with the pig and sausage, but nice all the same.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Novogord on November 28, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
Indeed, those looters looks very good and funny. Those would be a nice addition to any army!

And I like those puffy sleeved Eureka knights :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 09, 2010, 08:44:21 PM
http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/28mm-ancient-greeks-311-c.asp

new from Warlord...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 10, 2010, 12:33:45 PM
It seems those greek figures are actually the ones from Immortal Games.  Wondering how that came to be.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 10, 2010, 10:22:50 PM
Northstar are selling Immortal now too.

I think smaller manufacturers are finding it difficult to both make and sell miniatures.

For example Musketeer Miniatures have recently arranged for Gripping Beast to sell for them:

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Over the past year Musketeer Miniatures has been growing to a point where it became too much for one man to run on his own. My sculpting time was reduced to almost nil due to coping with the day to day running of the business. Despite how busy it got it wasn't earning enough to employ someone else full time to help me out. Ah! The joys of self employment!

So from today onwards the production, mail order and general running of Musketeer will be taken over by my top chums Darren and Andy and overseen by Lord S from Gripping Beast. All orders will still go through this website for now, but any enquiries or phone orders will be dealt with by Gripping Beast (01386 761 511.)

One of many advantages to this new arrangement is that GB operate from early in the morning to late at night so are much easier to contact. Also they can take credit card orders so call them!

The upshot of this is I will at last be able to sculpt full time once more and get ranges finished that have been hanging round for far too long (we all know what I'm talking about ....!) New exciting ranges are planned for the future as well as some individual projects that we think you might like.

There are some quite good dealers out there who are doing a pretty good job of offering competitive prices and good service, and are well organised with good websites.

Maelstrom and Wayland are probably the bigger two that spring to mind, but personally I find Northstar and Caliver very good, and there is a pretty good one up in Scotland called Wargames + Miniatures which is moving forward.

Northstar aren't the cheapest, and charge postage, but Nick uses Twitter to post regular updates, has a bargain section where he shifts excess stock, and as with Artizan he seems to be some sort of main agent for a range.

There are lots and lots of miniatures outfits and as we know most are pretty small - to market and set yourself up properly I should imagine needs a fair amount of initial capital - if you haven't got the capital, then an arrangement with a good dealer can be mutually beneficial.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 11, 2010, 04:26:54 AM
It seems those greek figures are actually the ones from Immortal Games.  Wondering how that came to be.

Yup:

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Warlord Games are pleased to present Immortal Miniatures' new Classical Greek Hoplite plastic boxed set.

I like the "Special Offer." Buy three £12.00 boxes for only £35.00! How can you pass up that kind of savings!  :wink:



I think smaller manufacturers are finding it difficult to both make and sell miniatures.

Probably. There's a lot of work involved and some of the smaller (and even some of the larger) manufacturers seem to get overwhelmed at times.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 11, 2010, 10:03:27 AM
Yeah, Warlords special offers do leave you a touch underwhelmed dont they
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 17, 2010, 05:17:31 AM


I thought this was interesting...

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/249221/

because of the mention of them making kits of metal Swiss & Tudor heads. Could be of use for Empire players. (Beyond the existing potential of the plastics.)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on December 17, 2010, 05:35:46 AM
Swiss?! Yes! :)

I have foundry swiss halberdiers, and some salets and kettle helms from Mirliton for conversions. I know Artizan is doing Swiss to go with his Landkesnchects, but honestly, who knows when those will be ready.

I have the Artizan halberiders on the way though. With head swaps they'll be my Swiss Papal Guard. ;) I still need a good Pope/Lvl4 Wizard though. ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on December 17, 2010, 05:54:53 AM
In the same vein, anyone know any good suggestions for Free Company stand ins?

Two weapons is not an easy thing to find in historicals, outside samurai. ;)  I was thinking maybe the new WotR mercenaries might be nice bodies and heads, but I'd probably have to use mordheim/freecompanies arms to get any left handed weapons; I reckon the gw plastic sprues are too big, but I just got the first Bills and Bows box, so maybe I should go open that up and check it out. 

I've just re-read the rules (I only have 6th Ed Army book so far, dunno if it has since changed), and I think they could be fun. For somereason when it came out I got it in my head that they were even worse than our beloved 3-across-the-board empire state troop, but on second look I see that they have the same stat line, but just get 2 weapons. For a point less than average?! Helllloooo skaven clan rats!   Anyway, they seem like they're worth having a unit of perhaps, or at least some detachments, but I've never really like the floppy hat / quasi pirate look of the free companies boxes.

So. . . . any suggestions??

My other though is that if I can't come up with a useable number of 2-weapon troops, maybe just go with the fluff - that they count as 2-weapons overall, but in reality they are all mixed. That would free me to use a lot of different grunt-level rennaissance or late medieval style troops. Some swords, some bucklers, some bills, some extra hand weapon.  That sort of variety might be quite fun to model.

We shall see.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 17, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
My boxes arrived yesterday ...................

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 17, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
In the same vein, anyone know any good suggestions for Free Company stand ins?

Try Warlord Games "Clubmen" or any other company that produces such things. Given the description of Militia, they are a randomly armed rabble and so you can actually use all sorts of figures in there for them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on December 17, 2010, 04:31:43 PM
  I was thinking maybe the new WotR mercenaries might be nice bodies and heads, but I'd probably have to use mordheim/freecompanies arms to get any left handed weapons; I reckon the gw plastic sprues are too big, but I just got the first Bills and Bows box, so maybe I should go open that up and check it out. 

I went and checked this out last night, and I was correct. The gw plastics are completely incompatible with the perry WotR plastics. Arms would go past their knees. :)

I'll keep thinking on it. Thanks for the Clubmen suggestion Uryens, if I go with the peasant rabble idea, those might be a great fit. :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 17, 2010, 09:36:53 PM
I have also seriously considered the clubmen to be the best fit for count as Free Company minis.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 18, 2010, 09:01:37 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/victorialamb/Inquisition4.jpg)

http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html (http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 18, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
Wow. I didn't expect that!

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 18, 2010, 02:00:58 PM
Wow. I didn't expect that!

 :engel:

Nobody does .............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 18, 2010, 03:40:34 PM
I like those!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on December 19, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
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http://www.victorialamb.com/store.html

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I like those!

Indeed, and the Imperial Noble looks pretty nice too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 20, 2010, 10:17:51 AM
Indeed, and the Imperial Noble looks pretty nice too.

Oh yes, didn't think to mention him as I've had one for so long now. The little monkey is great too.

(http://www.victorialamb.com/wugs/original%20miniatures/noble1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 20, 2010, 12:05:48 PM
It is a superb figure isnt it.

wish GW would give us more stuff like this.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 20, 2010, 09:48:41 PM
Oh! What a nice character fig it would be in a unit!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 21, 2010, 05:51:11 PM
GOOD NEWS

Black Tree finally sent my outstanding blister set ...................... from June 3rd Order.


 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 21, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
More Good News:

http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=24

Their new Saxons are ready - release date 24th Jan.

44 Figures will cost you £20
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on December 22, 2010, 09:27:22 AM
More Good News:

http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=24

Their new Saxons are ready - release date 24th Jan.

44 Figures will cost you £20

Told ya  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 01, 2011, 03:01:05 PM
Tin's Bits fire wizard.
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/70a3ab26d4d7fbd051a1f0c347f852cc.jpg)

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/26460-1-tins_bits.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/26460-1-tins_bits.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 01, 2011, 03:07:13 PM
Scibor miniatures warrior priests:
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/d48a8e8ec9645973df33577453011efd.jpg)

(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/c2f5d1b02d407f83f7ed3dd127926191.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on January 01, 2011, 10:07:52 PM
This is by far my favourite thread on the forum, I especially love being informed of all the other beatiful figures out there.

I love everything from Scibor miniatures - I really want the dwarf in the bunny suit on a chain as my army mascot!

My plan for 2011 is to increase my scenery collection, specifically stuff with an Empire/Mordheim theme. I have GW/FW/Tabletop World stuff, but was looking at CT-Scenery, Stronghold Terrain, Resina Planet and Grand Manner.

Has anyone got any feedback on these companies? - or indeed any other recommendations?

ps: (long shot) any recommendations for 28mm scale scenery for Mongolia circa 1920?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 02, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
You need to jump on a train on April 16th and come up to London for Salute. I know there are lots of other shows around the country, but I doubt any of them have as many exhibitors as Salute.

There are loads of scenery sellers/suppliers as well as all the minis stands.

I tend to look at the traders lists some time beforehand, (and their websites) and the layout map and then mark up the stands I want to see.
In previous years I have tended to go and blitz buy a particular range of minis - last year I had a much more sedate browse and bought several individual blisters/packs from some 14 different suppliers.

Generally when you are looking at things on a website, they are pictured at their best, and it is not until you get the bare mini in your hand that you see exactly how good it is, or how much you like or dislike it.

I have an aversion to some manufacturers as I think the bodies are badly out of proportion ( heads mainly) and I will not buy them - even though some of the webpics look good.
Scenery is the same - until you see it close up, you are not sure if it is strong enough, or good enough for your own levels.

I am also realistic about my ability to recreate the quality level of the supplier pics .................... :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 04, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
More photos of the Perry pike, crossbow & handgun figures, plus new metal Swiss heads. (Or is that Swiss metal heads?)


http://theminiaturespage.com/news/817537/


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on January 04, 2011, 06:51:14 PM
These plastics are awesome...  :smile2:

If I was starting all over again I might breeze over the GW miniatures for these, they are wonderful. I had a chance to see them up close a month or so ago and was thinking about converting over.

I love the Tudor and Swiss heads. They look neat!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 05, 2011, 10:53:05 PM
They are great. Have assembled my box and painted the firdt five.
Have ordered another box already. They are great DOW troops
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on January 10, 2011, 06:22:40 PM


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iqjlfB20qpU/TSrLDuybStI/AAAAAAAAADs/Lg2zYKLgmh0/s1600/Recio_final_by_TercioCreativo.JPG)

From Tercio Creativo (http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 11, 2011, 03:04:05 PM
DUST Tactics

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/DT_AxisEng.jpg (http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/DT_AxisEng.jpg)

Pretty expensive but I think they are nice enough for alternative IG soldiers

http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/preview_0/DT001-ALLIES-FORCES-web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp%3Feidn%3D1486&usg=__Jva7ykqfogy8f7g_ZlMqBJUZWpw=&h=777&w=1036&sz=68&hl=de&start=19&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=S2QONxu3RIYbYM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDUST%2BTactics%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26tbs%3Disch:1 (http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/preview_0/DT001-ALLIES-FORCES-web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp%3Feidn%3D1486&usg=__Jva7ykqfogy8f7g_ZlMqBJUZWpw=&h=777&w=1036&sz=68&hl=de&start=19&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=S2QONxu3RIYbYM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDUST%2BTactics%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26tbs%3Disch:1)

Perhaps someone has played the game and can comment on the quality of the models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 12, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Anybody ever dealt with these people, or know anything about them?

http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2011, 02:32:11 PM
I have not, but I know others who have. I've never heard anything bad.

Many (most? all?) of the figures were sculpted by Mark Sims, who has his own company, Crusader, and used to sculpt for Foundry.

I've been eyeing up some of the Macedonians, and when I eventually place an order I'll probably pick up a packs from some of the other lines as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 12, 2011, 04:52:21 PM
That's interesting.
I think we have discussed Crusader before and I am not a great fan as the heads on some ranges seem overlarge.

However I do have some Crusader El Cid Spanish I picked up as part of an ebay deal and they are ok.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2011, 07:54:29 PM
That's interesting.
I think we have discussed Crusader before and I am not a great fan as the heads on some ranges seem overlarge.



You sure you're not thinking of Renegade?

(http://www.renegademiniatures.com/celt/images/figures/num01.jpg)

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mogsam on January 12, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
I ordered some Perry stuff. They must be very busy cause it's been ageeeeees
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 12, 2011, 10:46:07 PM
Crusader stuff looks fine. Nothing wrong with it at all.


I ordered some Perry stuff. They must be very busy cause it's been ageeeeees

They took ages when I ordered some stuff a while ago. When I emailed them they said they'd had a lot of orders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 12, 2011, 11:08:21 PM
Perry is a part time business. They get to it when they finish the day job at GW.

I bought mine from Caliver - £16.00 per box and free postage, and I go them before Christmas ...........

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 12, 2011, 11:20:22 PM
I was talking about the metal men-at-arms though. I don't have the plastic set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 13, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
Did you see that Artizan have details of new Swiss up?

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1838


(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1838.jpg)

Not sure they are as nice as the Landsknechts myself?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 13, 2011, 10:34:18 PM
I would agree....a German looks better than a Swiss on any day.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 13, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
I've had no problem with Perry. I ordered the metal men at arms, very nice they are too, and they arrived in a few days.

I have also had a box of the mercenaries from Maelstrom which I got before Xmas. I'm waiting for a second box now as I've painted 24 of the first box already for my empire of Wolves mercenary army. Hailing from the border princes and ready to serve who ever pays the most. The Perry minis make excellent models for it.

Not sure about those Swiss. The Germans look great, I've got a blisters worth. I used TAG halberds to make them into empire halberdiers, old school style ones. I think they might get a Hochland paint scheme as it's one of the few provinces that I don't have any troops from.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on January 14, 2011, 08:44:15 PM
Does anyone know of any historical figures /ranges that could be used as Flagellants/Zealots?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on January 14, 2011, 09:02:46 PM
Thats a great question... I know of none.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 17, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
Hmm, Cathar wargaming, Peasants Crusade...it obscure to say the least  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 17, 2011, 02:15:08 PM
Cathars are really interesting. But as far as I know they had the same stuff as their enemies, the papal crusaders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on January 17, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
Does anyone know of any historical figures /ranges that could be used as Flagellants/Zealots?

I converted some ancient germans and celts which came out ok.

About half way down the page.
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=35361.75 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=35361.75)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 17, 2011, 06:02:56 PM
Cathars are really interesting. But as far as I know they had the same stuff as their enemies, the papal crusaders.


Indeed. That's even the source of the phrase, "kill them all, God will know his own."

I don't believe there were ever any flegglers/flagellants in combat that I'm aware of. They were a (sort of) religious movement, not a military one.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on January 17, 2011, 06:13:43 PM
Ideally I would like to find some figures that appear to be wearing Capirote (sp?) - I have an old citadel Acolyte from the Shadows over Bogenhafen leading a unit of Flaggies, but would like an entire unit of something similar. Perhaps there is a Pulp range that does 'Clansmen' that I could convert.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 17, 2011, 08:50:56 PM


http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=COS-13

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/COS/COS-13.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 17, 2011, 09:18:03 PM
I think the KKK imagery may have made it rare - the old 40k redemptionists are close, and then there were Mordheim models.

Not seen anything I can recall in my 'occasional'  :engel: wanderings around the miniatures sites, but there may be something in the modern or steam punk stuff that I do not pay much attention to.
I will try to browse a bit for you though ..............  :closed-eyes: 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2011, 07:34:35 PM
Found this latest update on the Conquest Games site.

A command set to follow their basic knights set.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/MetalNormanCommand.jpg)



http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/

There's also talk of clerics and civilians which I assume is in the pipeline with their planned Norman Infantry set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 03, 2011, 02:20:45 PM


Yet more Perry goodness!

In addition to metal halberdiers & pikemen, they've released several packs of separate halberds and pavises. And Swiss heads for use with the plastic kits. Very good stuff once again

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/453620/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on March 08, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Thanks to one of you mentioning Kingmaker miniatures i "accidently" bought an elephant. But i dont hold it agains you!  :-)

http://www.1stcorps.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=212_230&products_id=2644&osCsid=5bf2de9aebcd64ad222dbff77de6615a
(http://www.1stcorps.co.uk/online_shop/images/EL,%20K.jpg?osCsid=5bf2de9aebcd64ad222dbff77de6615a)


ahh.. the waiting...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 08, 2011, 04:25:36 PM
And now he finally has stomp attacks to match his posture.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 08, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
thunderstomp even!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 08, 2011, 10:13:48 PM
I originally posted this in the B&P, but I suspect the 'collectors' amongst us are more attuned to the CT.

Here we are - a fine puzzle to test our addicts.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKjIE0eGNUfzRBN,om1jUzg~~_12.JPG)

I won these on ebay and cannot find the manufacturer.

I already have similar models from Artizan, Grippping Beast, Perry, Magister Militum, Black Tree & Crusader. I've checked several others in my manufacturers list and canot seem to find them.

They are Moorish/Andalusian

The Infantry are in chainmail and there is a pair of each of 6 models.
The archers again are a set of 6 different figures, and the command figures are a 6 too - 2 champs, 2 Standards and 2 trumpeters.

They're pretty nice sculpts and I got the lot for £6.25 including postage from an ebayer up in Douchie-land  :engel:

No cookies, but my mace will be forever grateful .................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 09, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Gamezone lately?

I see Artemis Balck is not advertising them for Salute.

Gateshead Gaming used to stock them - now no mention I can see.

Their website has been 'under reconstruction' for months.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Immovable Object on March 09, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
???????

http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/index.php/language/en/XTCsid/fb2638db7ba680ee4c57fc24ea46771a (http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/index.php/language/en/XTCsid/fb2638db7ba680ee4c57fc24ea46771a)

Artemis bloody Blacks never answer their bloody phone anyway. Bloody buggers.


Bloody.




Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 10, 2011, 08:27:24 AM
Well finally there is a miniature with my name.....

http://www.tabletopshoponline.de/ammon-miniatures-fraaanz.html (http://www.tabletopshoponline.de/ammon-miniatures-fraaanz.html)

Well....I am kind of underwhelmed.  :unsure:

But at least I found Rufus too:

http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm)

But their line is kind of cool.....this would be the most perfect Banshee of all time

http://www.smartmaxstore.com/mrs-dudley-en.htm (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/mrs-dudley-en.htm)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 10, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
But at least I found Rufus too:

http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm (http://www.smartmaxstore.com/doctor-zeels.htm)


That is so awesome!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 10, 2011, 03:15:01 PM
While that, and many of the other "diorama" style figures look great, they seem like they've be a bit odd to use in games. That would look cool as part of a larger display, though!

And I went to the Smog1888 web page to take a look but lost patience waiting for multiple Flash pages to load. One of my pet peeves is when I spend more time waiting for the web page than I spend looking at what I went there for in the first place. After the second waiting period, I just closed the page and gave up trying to look at actual figures. Would have lost patience even quicker if I was on my phone.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 10, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
I think many of the models would look great as unit filler in a demon army.

Our demon player used quiet a lot of Cuthulu monsters as unit filler in his horrors looked great.

I think Helldorado miniatures could work for this too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 10, 2011, 03:55:45 PM
I would look a bit weird to have a floating squid-portal moving about the table.

And I never buy miniatures that I couldn't conceivably use in a game. I can only buy things I think will be useful.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 10, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
Like that strange squid toilet god?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 11, 2011, 06:40:25 PM

I think we linked to this guy before when he did a review of the plastic vikings from Gripping Beast and Wargames Factory.
This is a new review of the Conquest Norman Knights:

http://www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=normansInPlastic


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2011, 01:54:49 AM


Just got a few figures that I had a friend pick up at Cold Wars (I couldn't go this year.) I finally got the Perry mercenary plastic set. Very cool!

Also got a few unrelated items -- Molon Labe (formerly Vendel) ancients. They're big fellas! I got a couple packs to round out my Macedonians/Successors, but I probably should have got a pack of Elizabethans too, just to see how they compare to GW etc. The ancients are larger than all my other ancients for the army, including Crusader. They approach Renegade in bulkiness, which means they may be a good addition to Empire/DoW armies. I'll try to take a comparison photo soon.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 15, 2011, 05:49:15 PM
I have oodles of the Vendel ones - you are correct they are more 28mm than 25mm, but I quite like some size variation.
It is much truer to life that there would be 6' guys alongside 5'6" shorter troopers .........

Sort of like having Fandir and Aldaris standing in the ranks .........  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2011, 11:24:25 PM
I like a bit of size variation too, as long as they look scaled similar. But as it turns out the Molon Labe figures are not only taller, but the arms seem twice as thick, much larger head, etc. as the 1st Corps figures they need to mix with.

Thought I'd take a pic showing the hypaspists from Molon Labe and 1st Corps, and pike regulars from Crusader and Foundry.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/macinfcomp01.jpg)

These will be the core of the army. I've got some assorted support infantry, but haven't really got any cavalry yet.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 16, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
I meant I have loads of the Elizabethans - not the ancients - sorry.
That's the second time in a couple of days I haven't read something properly - senior moments are on the rise.  :engel:

However a taller person can be stockier. Your pic looks like me on the left, then ALdaris, Fr1day and finally skinny-boy  :icon_wink: Finlay on the right.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 16, 2011, 10:36:31 AM
So Aldaris attempted to take away your weapons and ended up as the first corpse?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 18, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
First Corps have a nice armoured elephant I have on my list to check out at Salute.

Wargames Factory shop is back up and running.
Amazons are in, and the Persians are due to be added next week so they say.


Not sure how the UK will be served?
WF yapped on Facebook about how Northstar were their UK distributor and an order was on its way, yet when I emailed to Nick he hadn't heard a word from them!
I suspect they were 'fulfilling' an order from before the bust up - so not sure what will happen with any new stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 21, 2011, 05:20:41 AM


http://www.renegademiniatures.com/wotr.htm

Renegade has released some cavalry for their WotR range. I have not seen these figures in person, but I've got some of their Gallic cavalry and they are some of the only figures that come close to GW's cavalry in size. They tower over some of the other historical figures.

Here's a couple old photos I posted in the B&P showing the big horsey figures:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/rencomp2.jpg


If anyone gets a chance to see these new WotR cavalry (or the rest of the line)  in person, I'm curious how they scale up to GW, Perry, etc.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 21, 2011, 03:57:02 PM
I think Nortstar carry Renegade.

I know Dave Thomas ( a 'shows only' guy), and Gripping Beast who have a large stand this year are carrying a lot of Artizan stuff for Northstar.
Northstar posted something on Twitter about Dave carrying "All their Ranges" at another show recently.

I'll ask.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on March 21, 2011, 08:45:13 PM
Ideally I would like to find some figures that appear to be wearing Capirote (sp?) - I have an old citadel Acolyte from the Shadows over Bogenhafen leading a unit of Flaggies, but would like an entire unit of something similar. Perhaps there is a Pulp range that does 'Clansmen' that I could convert.

Stuff you could convert- some would need a lot of work for weapons, but there are plenty of robed poses to go around. You could easily add the extrme pointy hat to any and all if you wanted. :)

Pulp Figures:

(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm4.jpg)

(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm5.jpg)

(http://www.pulpfigures.com/catalog/pwm7.jpg)

Artizan:

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/PLP555.jpg)

(http://artizandesigns.com/images/img1615.jpg)

Reaper:

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/06175_G.jpg)

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/03312_w_1.jpg)

Strange Aeons:

(http://www.strange-aeons.ca/img/mini/SA-003.jpg)

(http://www.strange-aeons.ca/img/mini/SA-017.jpg)

Black Cat:

(http://blackcatbases.com/bmz_cache/a/a10649f71d5fbc92a9614e1e28fd616f.image.457x550.jpg)

(http://blackcatbases.com/bmz_cache/0/04fe22fd4f38829e809cea191ab5dcc3.image.479x550.JPG)

Brigade:

(http://www.brigadegames.com/images/BGGL/BG-ADVH90_lg.jpg)

Golgo Island:

(http://shop.eastridingminiatures.co.uk/ekmps/shops/ermp20/images/gg14-1570-p.jpg)

SuperFigs:

(http://www.fourcolorfigs.com/images/catalog/zb15-400.jpg)


West Wind:

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-21.jpg)

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-22.jpg)

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-24.jpg)

(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/GH/GH-25.jpg)

Eureka:

(http://eurekamin.com.au/images/100CUL03.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: jimbibbly on March 21, 2011, 09:33:41 PM
Midaski, those figures you posted up near the top might be Newline Designs, I have some of their Han Chinese in a box somewhere and the sculpting style looks similar  :smile2:

cheers

James
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 21, 2011, 10:00:58 PM
The shields are moulded on on the ones I have, whereas Newline look like they provide them separately.
Their 28mm periods don't fit either.

Apart from the fact I have the full set already I would have guessed Black Tree or Gripping Beast - they are very close in style and size. All I can assume is they are older OOP models from those suppliers.
GB are at Salute too  - I might slip a couple of mine in my pocket and ask if they recognise them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: jimbibbly on March 21, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
I'll give Soapy a shout and see what he says  :smile2:

cheers

James
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 24, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
Slightly related: I just read that Renedra now has a set of gravestones.

http://renedra.co.uk/webstore.html#
(scroll down a bit)

I like it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 24, 2011, 06:24:26 PM
I can pick some up for you at Salute, and give them to you at the Eurobash if you like ............  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 24, 2011, 06:28:13 PM
I would like to have it protocolled that a certain moderator threatened to hand me my gravestone should I dare to come to the Eurobash.




(Thanks a lot! But I'll try Maelstrom, since I have moneyback to spend there anyway.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 26, 2011, 11:41:02 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKjIE0eGNUfzRBN,om1jUzg~~_12.JPG)


I think I have discovered what they are.       Perrys

They do some Armenians in the Crusades range, and I had only looked at the Crusades - Muslim Armies

I cannot be 100% as I definitely have:

CU31 Armenian Archers

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/cu31.jpg)


and I suspect I have:

 CU30 - Armenian Infantry Command
and
2 of CU32 - Armenian Armoured Militia Spearmen Defending

......... but unfortunately they don't have pics on their website.

I would like to say how much I appreciate everyone's help with this and it is so pleasing to have finally been able to identify these nice minis ..........  :engel:

Now I just need to do some historical digging to find why these Armenians are listed with the crusaders rather than the arab forces, and I do notice that all these figures tend to have manly beards ...............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 27, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
The Armenians involved are those of the Armenian kingdom in Asia Minor, those armenians the turks get so upset about when you mention them cause they tried their best to genocide them.

They were the Armenian kingdom of Cilicia and were allied with the crusaders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Armenia
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 27, 2011, 09:42:43 AM
Thanks Mathi

I knew it would be you ...............   :engel:

I found a mention of Armenians in "Byzantium - Beyond the Golden Gate" in the description of the formation and use of Ghulams as a sort of standing army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 28, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
I actually have those Armenian archers!

But your picture was rubbish, so I didn't recognise them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 28, 2011, 12:11:56 PM
Felix strikes again. And this time with a whole unit!

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=63

Hey Fandir, that's a better present for your wife than a bunch of flowers which you have to throw away after a couple of days. Just saying. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 28, 2011, 02:53:39 PM


Although I don't deny Felix's sculpting skills, I just don't care for the style of any of the AoW figures. They have all of the characteristics of my least favorite GW figures: over the top "heroic" proportions & equipment and cluttered with details. Looking at the photo of the unit, I can barely see the dwarfs behind all the axes, hair, etc.

I am probably in the minority, as most WFB players seem to worship AoW like they are the pinnacle of fantasy miniatures. But I've never really cared for most of their figures.  ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 28, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
Felix strikes again. And this time with a whole unit!

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=63

Hey Fandir, that's a better present for your wife than a bunch of flowers which you have to throw away after a couple of days. Just saying. :icon_cool:

Wow, this guy is getting better and better. I'm definetely ordering this dwarven unit, and his witchhunter and the new marauder........and....a lot of his stuff really.

We can all feel very lucky he isn't working for GW, in this way we can buy his unique minis for a reasonable price. AoW is one of the best mini companies at this moment really. And the company is located in EU, which is good for the shipping cost.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 28, 2011, 03:30:49 PM
Yes I agree with 023 - can sculpt, but too 'heroic'

I actually got interested when I saw the box artwork at the top, and then scrolled down and the regiment picture just looks horrendous - ranking a unit up will need a degree in maths and engineering.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 28, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
Slayers should be skirmishers
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 28, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
Slayers should be skirmishers

They should be like fanatics but more reliable... wade into a unit/monster, cause a whole lot of casualties before dying their own glorious death.  :wink:


We can all feel very lucky he isn't working for GW, in this way we can buy his unique minis for a reasonable price.

 :?

They are selling their infantry hero figures for $13-$20 each. $35 for a mounted hero. (At least that's prices here in the US.) That's at least as much, if not more than, the equivalent GW figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 29, 2011, 10:52:57 AM
Although I don't deny Felix's sculpting skills, I just don't care for the style of any of the AoW figures. They have all of the characteristics of my least favorite GW figures: over the top "heroic" proportions & equipment and cluttered with details. Looking at the photo of the unit, I can barely see the dwarfs behind all the axes, hair, etc.

I am probably in the minority, as most WFB players seem to worship AoW like they are the pinnacle of fantasy miniatures. But I've never really cared for most of their figures. 

I guess you could say that Felix is the pinnacle of GW style, even though he doesn't work for GW...

I see what you mean, and there's definitely some truth in it. I still like most of what he does though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 29, 2011, 10:57:55 AM
I agree with zero23. I don't like the avatar of war stuff.


Still, didn't that guy make this dwarf lord for GW?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440054a&prodId=prod780848

Awesomely understated.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Immovable Object on March 29, 2011, 11:00:49 AM
I like the AOW miniatures as well. Some of them are overblown and a bit daft but I love the fat Goblin, the Ogre, the Barbarian and the Witch Hunter. The AOW models are certainly no more silly than the GW range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
I'm not saying that no one else can't like the AoW figures. They're just no my preferred style.


I guess you could say that Felix is the pinnacle of GW style, even though he doesn't work for GW...

Maybe. Or at least pinnacle of the current GW style.

I liked it when the Perry brothers and Jes Goodwin were the pinnacle of GW style. I think their work is a large part of the reason I still play Empire and Skaven. (The same could probably be said of Kev Adams, back when I had an all-gobbo army, too.)


The AOW models are certainly no more silly than the GW range.

Yes, well some of us think many of the figures in the GW range have got a bit silly too.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on March 29, 2011, 02:13:47 PM
Maybe. Or at least pinnacle of the current GW style.

I liked it when the Perry brothers and Jes Goodwin were the pinnacle of GW style. I think their work is a large part of the reason I still play Empire and Skaven. (The same could probably be said of Kev Adams, back when I had an all-gobbo army, too.)

I wholeheartedly agree.  Though the odd thing about Kev Adams Gobbos and Orcs, his sculpts actually get a little worse into the early 90's and beyond.  They went from the being wildly varied to a sort of plain fat headed look, especially his Orcs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 29, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
I agree with that. They started to look really stiffly posed, too. I like his older stuff better than many of the figures he's done more recently, too. He had so much life & character in those old sculpts.

Didn't he do the Foundry orcs/gobbos? The big mercenary orcs (are they calling them ogres now?) were great, but some of the other stuff was a bit bland. Again, similar stiff poses, etc. on those other (also later) figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on March 29, 2011, 03:44:09 PM
Yeah he did the Foundry stuff.   

Back in the day I blamed the change on GW trying to standardize Orcs into a uniform look (which I didn't like).  I had actually assumed at the time it was a different sculptor. It appears it may have been just as much to do with Kev Adams refining his sculpts into a uniform look leading to his "smiley guys" phase according to his fansite blog. unfortunately he seems to have have stuck with his "smiley guys" look which is unfortunate IMO.

http://kevadamschallenge.blogspot.com/search/label/Warhammer
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on March 30, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
I rather like these:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 30, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
Nice
- and I see Pirates on the horizon .......


In the meantime Fandir has found a present for his beloved .......

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/seite_release.jpg)

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 30, 2011, 08:49:56 PM
I have spotted them too. Sadly, Kulturkommisariatet, the swedish netstore that have brought in some have only taken post-apocalypse and victorian style ones. But those post-apocalypse makes for some nice additions to my Sisters of Battles witch hunter friends.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 31, 2011, 02:53:07 PM
I rather like these:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64


Me too. I was wondering if/when they would be released.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfsgaum on April 15, 2011, 12:40:18 AM
I rather like these:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64

Absolutely. Check out these preview threads for some more Empire flavoured goodness;
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=27893.0

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=26816.0

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=26910.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 15, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
The AoW dwarfs aren't to my liking, and the art work looks much different than the sculpts.

However, the one Rufus shows on the GW site, that's one cool looking dwarf!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 15, 2011, 07:29:26 AM
I have a few of the AoW dwarves and they are superb sculpts, and a joy to paint.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 15, 2011, 12:54:05 PM
I probably need to be more open minded and look around their site, not just basing my first view of their berserker dwarfs as my overall view.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 15, 2011, 01:21:05 PM
I also have their vampire woman figure and that's excellent too, I will be getting the warrior priest as well.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 15, 2011, 05:24:03 PM
The AoW orcs range is pretty darn awesome IMO.  I have the savage orc and the goblin, but have not yet painted them up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on April 15, 2011, 06:48:18 PM
Are there any cheap replacements for the greatsword box?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 15, 2011, 07:17:53 PM
Gamezone, the only one really :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 15, 2011, 08:53:28 PM
Artizan do some as well
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 15, 2011, 10:41:39 PM
The Artizan ones are very nice.  If cheap is the first priority, I suggest the old glory ones:

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PIL-04

023 has some painted examples up here somewhere...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 16, 2011, 05:50:11 AM
The Artizan ones are very nice.  If cheap is the first priority, I suggest the old glory ones:

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PIL-04

023 has some painted examples up here somewhere...

"25mm scale - 30 Figures - 4 Sword Poses with Head Variants"

...aren't they too small?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 16, 2011, 08:21:24 AM
No, I have some of their pikes, they are the same size as the GW stuff, again 023 has comparison pics
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on April 16, 2011, 05:32:19 PM
Old Glory seems to be exactly what I'm looking for ... But I couldn't find any comparison pictures which include greatswords...
And there's another problem... They're not shipping to Croatia.

Thanks anyway guys !  :icon_smile:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 17, 2011, 08:21:08 PM
Perry are doing mounted men at arms in plastic, sweet!

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/622364/

boxes of 12, no release date though
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on April 17, 2011, 08:50:42 PM
 :::cheers::: Perry's for the WIN!!!

those look great.

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 17, 2011, 09:17:40 PM
Wow.  Perry is moving full speed ahead with there 28mm plastics.  Very exciting. :icon_biggrin:

They are even doing Austrian, Russian, and Prussian infantry! Cacoo! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 18, 2011, 07:19:52 AM
We no longer need new Knights it seems....awesome and also nice kits for light cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 11:33:23 AM
I thought I had a decent look at the Perry stand at Salute, but I only saw the Plastic Napoleonic PrussianInfantry 1813-15 they have been promoting on their website.
However Donnachaidh emailed this morning asking about them too - so maybe I missed the greens.

Based on the timescales for the two previous plastic sets, I guess it will be towards September / October though.

I did buy some of the metal armoured infantry with the halberds though .......... along with a lot of other stuff ......... far too much other stuff .........  :engel:



 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 11:39:23 AM
Midaski ... did you ever provide pictures or an update form Salute around here?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
Midaski ... did you ever provide pictures or an update form Salute around here?

No    :engel:





I forgot the camera ........... well I didn't really think about it to be honest. I get the shakes quite a lot, and need a tripod to take pics.

I went with specific targets in mind, that were all old news really.

I had pre-ordered the new rules - Clash of Empires and Hail Caesar which were both released on the day, but have been discussed in the Hail Caesar thread.

Mini -wise it was Perry WotR, some WF Persians and Amazons, Artizan Arthurians, some Crusader ancient Spanish, some bargain Foundry late Romans, the Conquest games metal Norman command and Monks & Nuns sets plus some spare horse sprues, and various odd bits and bobs.



I tried to get to meet jimbibbly but he was besieged all day  :icon_lol:, but his scenery is even better close up.

I waved at Donnachaidh in the queue .........

I did meet up with JustNorth and exchanged banter and barbs. 







Oh and found 2 boxes of Ed.6 Soldiers of the Empire still 'MINT' in the cellophane ........................
 



.......... and I won't tell you what I paid as you will cry ............


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
 :icon_lol: Looks like me asking over on the miniholic thread might have been better. :icon_wink:

Maybe I'll copy and paste over there, instead of carrying on the conversation I started here. :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 03:26:41 PM
But seriously ...

1.  How were the WF Persians?  I got a small sprue of a couple infantry when I ordered from one of their sales, back before the big breakdown over there.  They looked appealing, and although I'm debating whether or not I want to order after all the hub bub because I'm not thrilled with how things happened and wondering if WF under current ownership will do something of a quality follow up to their infantry, and wondering how the over all box of Persians came out.

2.  I really like the attacking poses of the Artizan Arthurians.

3.  The crusader ancient Spanish are interesting, but they seem to lack a bit of dynamicness some how.  Think I saw some at Historicon last year, and maybe I'll have a look again this year, but the pictures on their website just don't do it for me.  Also, they make a difference between light and heavy cav by putting small plates of armor on the heavy's chest and that seems to be it, and I'm wondering if this is really how it was with those?  However, I like their newer El Cid series!  Those look really good.

4.  Regarding Conquest Games ... do they only have the norman knights on horseback (and the nuns & monks)?  Maybe I'm missing something on their website.  The knight sprue pictures seem to look good though, and I like the variant heads, but it seems they could have fit a few more on the sprue, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 06:02:58 PM
1. I have had a cursory look - they ended up on a different multi sprue set up to what was posted on the website, and I think linked earlier in this thread.
The small sprues thing is weird - several sprues for just a few weapons, and different sorts of shields. Some of the weapons appear in both the Infantry and Cavalry boxes.
I also got a box of the Amazons and again some of the same sprues are in there - the female limbs look very spindly.

They look ok, but I think it will need some experimenting when I get round to building them - which will not be happening until after the Eurobash.

2. I just like all Artizan stuff. The Arthuians have sort of crept up on me as I picked up some Black Tree at half price, and I have a lot of Saxons and Vikings, so I was looking at some combatative armies from Late / Romano British and early Dark Ages.

3. Again Northstar did a half price Crusader Spanish Army deal, and so I bought them  :engel: mainly because I had seen 'allied spanish units' in Fall of the West etc., and didn't really understand what some of the terms like Caetrati and Scutari meant ....... I have been educating myself a bit since. 

4. Conquest are new - I met Mike at the show, youngish guy who is doing it as a part time enthusiast - he has plans and ideas for more units, but it takes time and getting the capital for Renedra to make a sprue is not easy.


I think the way WF churned out units was the exception - if you look at Gripping Beast, they have done two, Vikings and Saxons, in over a year, and the Perrys probably manage only 2 or 3 a year, and indeed Warlord Games who are probably the most prolific UK outfit have been going a while now, and several of their supposedly 'different' box sets use the same base sprue.
Mantic may be a bit more regular, but I haven't been paying them much attention to be honest.

I think it is around £50,000 to develop a standard unit size sprue, which means if you are selling a box set at £15 - £20 each then you have to sell around 2500 to 3350 sets just to break even.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 18, 2011, 07:34:26 PM
Regarding the Persians ... they don't currently have them up for sale on the WF website, and some how I didn't know they had done both infantry and cavalry.  Maybe I'll get lucky and find them being sold at a retailer or convention.

Regarding the Dark Ages period, is there a preferred rules set that you use?  I've got one called Pig Wars that I'm currently reading in time for a convention's large game event.

And guess I need to do some reading on the ancient and dark ages Spanish forces, too.

Yep, lots of places using Renedra, and my understanding is Defiance Games (the new company started by the original WF owners and founders) will also being using something different, and apparently based out of the U.S.A.  My understanding is its a cheaper process than Renedra.

Also, DG is apparently already on the move with multiple sprues being worked on again.  They seem to be doing a sci-fi set first, since the WF shock troops seemed so successful, before doing some more historicals.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on April 18, 2011, 07:38:01 PM
Midaski,

Did you see any interesting scenery/suitably Empire-ish buildings at Salute?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2011, 08:11:04 PM
Midaski,

Did you see any interesting scenery/suitably Empire-ish buildings at Salute?

I wasn't looking too hard to be honest.  I have a mental block with resin buildings as I think they are very pricey.
I also have a load of Hirst Arts moulds and have cast loads of,  :engel: well several,  bricks ready to build something with sometime ...........

The one stand I did look at was www.totalbattleminiatures.com - they had some 28mm dark age and black powder era bits.

The other person of course is jimbibbly one of our newer members on here - he mainly does Japanese buildings, but he had some of his other commission pieces on show, and they looked pretty sharp.

   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 18, 2011, 09:02:59 PM
The one stand I did look at was www.totalbattleminiatures.com - they had some 28mm dark age and black powder era bits.

Those look nice, thanks for the link.

A bit pricey though. The work of a particular member here is not much more expensive, and seems to be much better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 18, 2011, 11:25:36 PM

The Empire finally get new knights! Thanks Michael & Alan!  :wink:

I've also been dying to see someone do a plastic AWI range. I've been contemplating going with 15mm, which is more practical anyway, but maybe I will consider the big guys after a few of their plastic sets come out.

Also, less related, Warlord is doing plastic Macedonian pikemen. They come armed with electrical poles, however. You will have to snip those off and replace them with your own in-scale pikes. Unless you want your MacEdonians looking like they're competing in a caber toss.  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 19, 2011, 12:30:46 AM
Yes!  AWI 28mm plastics!  How could I forget?  I saw them, but got lost in all those Napoleonics.

- - -

By the way, the mounted men-at-arms for 1450-1500 look great, although they don't appear to have barding.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 19, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
By the way, the mounted men-at-arms for 1450-1500 look great, although they don't appear to have barding.

I have a feeling that I read in the accompanying blurb, that barding is part of the kit - you can add it if you wish.



.......... and that ba***rd at Northstar has a special offer on Carolingans .......... must resist

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1820

..... must resist ...... ..... must resist ...... ..... must resist ......  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 19, 2011, 10:21:36 AM
Will his will fu prevail...or will he yet again succumb to the pure awesomeness.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 19, 2011, 10:24:52 AM

 I just like all Artizan stuff.


Hoisted by my own petard ............. what do you think is going to happen ..................  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 19, 2011, 10:30:45 AM
An affair...yet again...one that will give you lots of pleasure though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 19, 2011, 10:45:22 AM
That looks like a sweet deal! :icon_biggrin:

Course then, if you don't have some already, you'll need some Moors to fight against them on the table top ...

http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1823

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 19, 2011, 10:50:22 AM
Course then, if you don't have some already, you'll need some Moors to fight against them on the table top ...

 :engel:

Pay attention.  :icon_rolleyes:

I have around 150+ infantry and 68 Cavalry and that doesn't include the Black Tree, GB, Perry, and various misc minis .............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 19, 2011, 02:54:28 PM
Well ... then I guess purchasing the deal on Carolingens is a must. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 19, 2011, 06:00:40 PM
Feast your eyes on these!  :biggriin:

Pre-View: Renaissance Civilians

Hello all together,

I got the new greens (or greys?) from Paul Hicks on the 16th of April at Salute. And I am sure you will agree that he has done a wonderful job on them! It was my highlight of Salute to get the new civilians in my hand.

The miniatures will be send to Griffin moulds tomorrow and I will get a huge stock from them.
I have taken some pictures with the miniature including the final codes and blister names. Each blister will cost 5,95€ (around £5,20 or 8,50$). Command sets, civilians and other small-needed-amount miniatures will be a bit more expensive. For core infantry I will try to keep the price as low as possible.

Once I get the message from Griffin that the moulds and castings are finish you can pre-order these lovely miniatures.

But now up to the pictures.

LC 01 - Beyond Good & Evil: This is a set including a priest with a wine cup, cross and long coat, a strupet pulling up her cloth, an horroractor with his beastmask on and a beggar. This set represents - as the title says - the down and ups of the renaissance.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC01-BGE.png)

LC 02 - Countryside: This set includes a hunter with his lovely huntingdog (hound from eBob), a lumberjack marching out to cut some wood and a peasant with his typical sword and a basket full of goods.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC02-CS.png)

LC 03 - Citylife I: This blisters includes a Landsknecht guard sleeping on duty, a harold with important news, a smith with the newest armour he has done and a woman with a broom, sweeping away the dust in the yard.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC03-CL1.png)

LC 04 - Citylife II: This set includes one woman with a pot in her hand, a young girl with a newborn, a shoetrader with his stuff on a stick and an unarmoured Landsknecht thinking about if he should spend his money on new shoes.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/LC04-CL2.png)


http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/
Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on April 19, 2011, 07:13:55 PM
Sweet!

I love Mr Hicks' work (impatiently waiting for him to return from holiday so I can get my mits on his latest batch of VBCW figures). I really like his odd droopy mouths his figs always have.

I wonder how these will stack up next to the Brugelburg range from LAF. If they match the previous Pro-Gloria figs they will be a tad smaller, but still going to have to order the citylife packs.

Now when can we order WK's dwarves....

PS regarding the Brugelburg figures linked by Shadowlord (page 21). Ordered them and they are excellent, (but warning: I wouldn't bother ordering the sign post pack, its a bit of a waste of money).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on April 20, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
I'm thinking the shoe-seller is a must have for all Empire players with new statetroops.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 20, 2011, 11:43:41 AM
Now when can we order WK's dwarves....

First set of 4 (spears and halberds): very soon.
The rest is scheduled to follow in the coming months.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 21, 2011, 12:15:37 PM
Perry are doing mounted men at arms in plastic, sweet!

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/622364/

boxes of 12, no release date though


Amazing!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 21, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
Second.

And even more suitable for WHFB since the lack of puff'n'slash is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 21, 2011, 12:25:49 PM
The lack of puffed and slashed is never irrelevant  :dry:

That said they are beautiful minis, looks like my Dogs of war will get the heavy cav they deserve...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 21, 2011, 12:27:35 PM
Well, true. What I meant is that it doesn't matter for heavy cav since the current Empire knights don't have it, either.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 21, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
I want the knights for my Hungarian Black Army. Though I already have fifteen Voland's Venetors which are exactly right anyway.

I still need to buy some of the pike/handgun/crossbow ones too!



Also, I like those civilian models from just up the thread. Especially the guy with the dog.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 21, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
I want the knights for my Hungarian Black Army.

Out of interest, what's a Hungarian Black Army?

I assume it has nothing to do with chili...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 21, 2011, 02:44:32 PM
Out of interest, what's a Hungarian Black Army?

Wiki link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Army_of_Hungary


There's an army list in the Vlad the Impaler army book for WAB.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 21, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
I think this Padre Calixto by Tercio Creativo would make a great non-combattant sigmarite priest:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nivBEv8ikyM/TZBOLVgk9HI/AAAAAAAAAFM/pCSxo0GHBZ4/s1600/Padre+Calixto_color_by_TercioCreativo.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n-tXM2cM5q0/TYnI3QjMNmI/AAAAAAAAAFI/GyIAozBb4ko/s1600/Padre+Calixto_Final_by_TercioCreativo.JPG)

http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/ (http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on April 22, 2011, 01:06:04 AM
Chaps, I require aid!

Does anyone know of any figures for the following:


I'm really awful at finding miniatures.  :-(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on April 22, 2011, 08:54:13 AM
http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Medieval_Knights__54mm__142.html (http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Medieval_Knights__54mm__142.html)


http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/listado.asp?IdColeccion=112 (http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/listado.asp?IdColeccion=112)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 24, 2011, 08:19:29 AM
More upcoming Bruegelburg figures from Lead Adventure Miniatures. The one with the hammer looks awesome!

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2373.jpg)

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2374.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2375.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1035/i-2376.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on April 24, 2011, 09:32:57 AM
Now those are some sweet looking minis! If you did not have enough slash an puff before, you will get it now! And the fellow with the hammer would be such an awesome captain with great weapon or halberd.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Immovable Object on May 05, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
Gamezone have released some new Empire stuff which is rather spectacular including this Female Mage.

(http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv258/wallumc1/gzm0210_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 05, 2011, 10:08:50 PM
Nice to see a painted example of that one!  I think it has been around for a little while though, I remember seeing it on maelstrom's website for a few months.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 07, 2011, 12:22:52 PM
Eureka Miniatures released their Italian Wars light cavalry I posted a while back:

(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2011/apr/844434b.jpg)

http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EFpupupAAVvEIngDkW (http://eurekamin.com.au/news.php?newsid=EFpupupAAVvEIngDkW)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 07, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
I've added a showcase in 8 parts to my blog, forming an illustrated guide to manufacturers of Empire/landsknecht style figures.

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All)

Before anyone points it out, no I didn't forget Perry Miniatures, they're  just a different historical period and I wanted to stick to the more or less pure strain of puffy sleeved goodness.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 08, 2011, 08:12:24 AM
Just noticed the post with the Spanish/Elisabethan (=Estalian) figures wasn't showing up on the first page.

Fixed.  :-)

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 09, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
WK ... thanks for the link, and well done effort there. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 10, 2011, 11:15:48 AM
I had been planning to do this for some time now. :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 16, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Lead Adventure/Ratnik miniatures Warrior Priests:
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2412.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2415.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2421.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2419.jpg)

More pictures here: http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=29303.0 (http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=29303.0)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 17, 2011, 12:16:15 PM
That last one could make one very good arch lector. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on May 17, 2011, 01:55:22 PM
 :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Dude How did I Miss those over an the LAF!  Between you WK and Ratnik I'm going to broke my bank when all those things are released!

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 20, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
This is interesting - those Gamezone boys must have been naughty ...........


http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/FBI/WEB%20CLOSED.html

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on May 20, 2011, 03:00:51 PM
 ::heretic:: ::heretic::

WOW that is very interesting...there is obviously a story to be told there!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on May 20, 2011, 03:24:19 PM
???????????????  ::heretic:: :eusa_wall: :unsure: :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on May 20, 2011, 04:09:33 PM
Oh dear... Maybe GW is behind all this.  :ph34r: I mean, making the feds go after Gamezone.  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 20, 2011, 04:33:08 PM
I thought Gamezone was a spanish (or at least european) company... how exactly does the FBI get involved here??
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 20, 2011, 04:36:23 PM
iT WORKS NOW FINE  :icon_confused:

http://gamezoneminiatures.de/?___store=gamezone_english&___from_store=gamezone_german (http://gamezoneminiatures.de/?___store=gamezone_english&___from_store=gamezone_german)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 20, 2011, 04:41:51 PM
Actually, thats the .de site.  If you try the .com site it is still closed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 20, 2011, 04:44:29 PM
Maybe it's one of those fake sites, disguised to cover some illegal intentions, like stealing credit card numbers. I'm sure Gamezone has nothing to do with this.

Actually I remember that few days ago there kept popping up the registration window, asking to login. But now this is gone. this is weird, I'm getting worried.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Novogord on May 21, 2011, 08:58:58 AM
An interesting way to go, who would have thought that a site from a miniature game company could get closed by the FBI. Server crash, hacking, ... we all have seen that, but this?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on May 21, 2011, 09:49:48 AM
It looks like it's for a breach of gambling laws and there is an interesting legal tussle going on at the moment with online gambling sites in the US and methods of money laundering, maybe this is part of that. Pure speculation on my part.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 24, 2011, 02:32:43 PM
Not sure if we have seen these before.

There have been postings of other stuff from them before - flags and a long rifle.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7xVXZzVW9t0/Ta2RHluEMEI/AAAAAAAAAFM/w-Y6dSvTQ2k/s320/LC03-CL1.png)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZKraxcUCRqY/Ta2RIV8abeI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/klGSxcTVdcY/s320/LC04-CL2.png)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z3GgCU1Bk4E/Ta2RGnIeZGI/AAAAAAAAAFI/m5CLCi1620M/s320/LC02-CS.png)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M4gO79CGiYk/Ta2RFRCZgKI/AAAAAAAAAFE/onqhs-MhIKc/s320/LC01-BG%2526E.png)

full details here:

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 24, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
Like the flags he's got shown on that site as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 24, 2011, 06:18:12 PM
Like the flags he's got shown on that site as well.

Yes - White Knight flagged (  :icon_rolleyes: ) them up a while back ................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2011, 02:20:21 PM
Yes - White Knight flagged (  :icon_rolleyes: ) them up a while back ................

And the civilians too: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31348.msg597211#msg597211 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31348.msg597211#msg597211)  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2011, 02:23:21 PM
Guess I should also mention this bloke I know is selling some Imperial dwarfs too:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1Iv8yX_Xdxg/TaruoAS9ORI/AAAAAAAAA_U/tYiOl7ODbJY/s1600/sebdwarves2.jpg)

 :engel: :biggriin:

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
Also just got this nice Witchhunter in the mail from Gorgon Studios:

(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002-bw.jpg)

http://www.gorgon-studios.com (http://www.gorgon-studios.com)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on May 28, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
Nice found WK  :::cheers:::

I've just ordered it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 28, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
Not mine! ...it's from their official site.

(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on May 29, 2011, 06:47:21 AM
I cthink ill do something to his sword when i get him, i dont like that square design - looks like orcsword from lotr.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 29, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
Do anyone know what rules are being used, and which terrain the Lead Adventure use for their post WWIII miniatures?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 31, 2011, 08:19:26 AM
(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002.jpg)

Nice model and paint job  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 31, 2011, 08:35:52 AM
@Justnorth: I apologize for misleading, but this isn't my work, it is just a copied image from their site. I was trying to be informative, because I also think this is a great mini and worthy to be praised more.



.....but you can allways check my blog for my work thou :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 01, 2011, 05:37:43 PM
Do anyone know what rules are being used, and which terrain the Lead Adventure use for their post WWIII miniatures?

I have wondered the same thing, Shadowlord. I really like the look of those fellas. Anyway, I got get myself some of the Bruegelburg folks for my Empire. And I will get some of their WWIII minis that seems suitable to add to my Witch hunters.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 01, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
There are no specific rules, they just make the figures and you can use them with whatever game you want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 01, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
There are no specific rules, they just make the figures and you can use them with whatever game you want.

Any cool ones out there?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 02, 2011, 05:30:11 AM
Bugelberg artillery

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2447.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2448.jpg)
(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2449.jpg)

Made to fit a certain widely available gun carriage:

(http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/karpov1973/1030/i-2397.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 02, 2011, 06:24:45 AM
wow, they look fantastic! your work?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 02, 2011, 07:10:52 AM
Sweet baby Jesus!  :Ohmy:  If I could get some of those cannons I would field a whole artillery battery with my empire just because of them sexy cannons!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 07:48:03 AM
Yeah. How the hell do you get your hands on those puppies?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 02, 2011, 09:29:10 AM
I WANT!!!

Where do I get all these?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 02, 2011, 10:08:46 AM
They will be released by Lead Adventure Miniatures.

http://www.lead-adventure.com/index.php?cPath=22 (http://www.lead-adventure.com/index.php?cPath=22)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 01:55:25 PM
Sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm not thrilled by them.  I can understand some snazzy designs at the rear end, but the rest is a cannon barrel, not some work of art.  Time is money, so what cannon builder in their right mind is going to spend extra effort getting all fancy with the barrel, like putting rifling on the outside, or a patch work quilt pattern, or making it look like a Roman Remas column?  I want artillery to look like artillery.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
GP, somewhere on this forum I poster pics I took in Musee de l'armee in Paris, in there they have cannons that look very similar to this, genuine works of art made by master craftsmen.

Sure many were churned out as cast iron or bronze tubes but some were made with just such artistry.

Artillery was a status symbol too, don't forget that.

Aha, exhibit a.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/Cod13/paris%20stuff/DSCF0155.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 02:54:50 PM
Oh yes, I've seen such things.  Yet when an army needs artillery I doubt they're going to demand art, but that's just one view and its ok if there are others.  For those who want a status symbol, buy away.

 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 03:40:46 PM
You can apply the same argument to anything in war GP

Why have a fancy, ornate sword
Why have engraved and enamelled armour
Why dye the coats of hundreds of horses so they all match

Prestige, esprit d'corps, ιlan and instilling fear in the enemy by your very appearance.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 04:04:09 PM
I wasn't so broad with my view that was expressed, and if other folks like the fancy artillery, ok.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 02, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
Gamespoet. Why insist on having the regimental colours in silk when you can have cheaper cotton? Because your soldiers would have felt humiliated and in full fury of being treated like dirt by not being given a proper banner out of silk.

There is no opposition between showing status and combat. The present day situation is probably just a temporary thing. We tend to understand and view everything from our perspective, but the fact is that throughout most history the norm seems to have been an eagerness to show of status and prestige on your own wargear!

A roman legionary would probably have disliked the present attitude towards personalization of a soldiers kit. The longer he served the vet would tend to "bling" out his kit more and more. And yes, he would fight in it.
Why fight in your fineries and risk having them trashed? Simple. Because by fighting in your fineries and risk them you show your enemy that:

1. You are a badass soldier who have fought long and survived to earn some handy extra coin enabling you to bling out your kit. You gotta be pretty darn though.
2. You show you are not scared one bit about him ever getting close to ruin your fineries.

The romans managed to achieved a rather neat esprit de corps and look of unity in their units while still allowing for personalization. And many see the romans as probably the most disciplined and most military army in history, even surpassing many modern forces.

Much comes down to the social standing and status of the common soldiers too. And to the level of individual involvement in contrast to state control over warfare.
And in the end, modern soldiers do bling out their kits and their vehicles as much as they can within the given restrictions. If things would be more free, you might see engraved cannons and gold engraved assaults rifles.  :icon_wink:

And you know what? I believe we will sooner or later turn back to that. And remember the german uniforms of WWII. Designed by Hugo Boss. Damn sure they were not the best adapted fighting dress in WWII, that gotta have been the US or maybe the british battledress. But damn did they look mean and sexy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 02, 2011, 05:42:58 PM
I WANT!!!

Where do I get all these?
These fellas might take those cannons in if we support by making strategic purchases of a certain line of minis.  :icon_wink:
http://kulturkommissariatet.se/catalog/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 02, 2011, 06:34:59 PM
Hey, Mathi ... not sure what the big deal is and strongly suggest me presenting my dislike of those cannons doesn't warrant entire post like that.

- - - - -

Besides, I like ACW artillery, but I suppose some would find them dull, and thats ok.  Folks are entitled to their versions of beauty and the reverse.

Additonally, I wasn't trying to start a debate, just offered a different view point then what else was being offered.  If folks have a differing eye for beauty with their cannons, thats fine by me.  I'm not impressed with the one's shown, and I precluded my comment with an apology for being a party pooper, but now I'm repeating myself.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 02, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
I know what you mean GP, the ECW army I used for the animosity campaigns is comparitivly very plain and I love that look too. It's just that these cannons are perfect for a self assured, wealthy and powerful army from Nuln or Altdorf, perhaps even Marienberg.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 03, 2011, 11:04:31 AM
What Uryen said.  :icon_biggrin:

My reason for writing that post was not necessarily to object to you, GP, but more to explain why it is not nonsense either way. In the 16th century and earlier, it was the norm that you tried your best to show of on your arms on the battlefield. Those cannons fits the mold perfectly. My next 30-years war inspired army (probably with some Perry war of the Roses in it to represent say Bretonnian mercs (Gasp!) will contain plain cannons of the type that was standard in the much more large scale and industrialized wars of the 17th century, when also the old status and rights of the once free landsknechts soldiers were replaced by the larger proletarianized and often poorer soldiers of mass armies of the 30-years war and onward.

It was really a huge change there, not so much in how the battles were fought or on strategy or weapons, but in the scale of war. That in the end affected the attention to details on embellishment. But it did not dissappear, as the standards and the dresses of the wealthy commanders shows.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 03, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
I like the look of these:

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WGP-SWO-01-left.png)

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WGP-SWO-01-right.png)

Quote
These great Warlord models are tooled up for the fray wih all manner of helmets, quality armour and of course the trademark sword and buckler. Two of the men are packing a pistol too, one with it on his belt and the other having a seperate arm, there being 3 differing bodies in total and a repeat body and loose arm to give the pistol option.

Each pack comes with 8 random metal swordsmen. You can grab some for your force by clicking here.


£12.00 for 8

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 03, 2011, 05:51:17 PM
Oho! Targetiers!

I join in on the praise.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 03, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
Damn you Warlord, damn you to hell.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 03, 2011, 09:37:19 PM
Of course they release these after their free shipping offer ends...

I could also get them from Maelstrom though, unless WG pulls a GW  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 04, 2011, 04:00:42 PM
I΄ll just wait an one of the netstores packing Warlords stuff in Sweden will get them. Sweet, sweet! This means I would be able to make an entire Empire army out of 30-years war model, including swordsmen detachments. And by adding some Perry War of the Roses I get a bunch of bretonnians mercenaries, pissed of at living and serving their stuck up lords!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 06, 2011, 06:31:56 PM
Ouch... I did it. I just could not restrain myself further.
I bought them Perry WoTR fellas.
http://www.gamemaniacs.se/products/products_show_image.asp?imageName=PMP%20WR01.jpg%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&productName=Perry+Bros+WAR+OF+THE+ROSES+Infantry+28mm+Hard+Plastic+Box+Set

Shame they only had one box in, but I hope they get another one in later so I can bump the billmen up to horde strength. Or I will have to find some other minis around I can squeeze in the back.

I also ordered these fellas to complement my 17th century pike unit:
http://kulturkommissariatet.se/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=124_1483&products_id=11944

It should bring them up to 36. And with the musketeers from the two boxes of Coventanters I bought earlier for a low price I can now make two detachments of muskets and one independent musket regiment.

I also had to buy this crazy lass just to get a close look at what Ratnik are capable of:
http://kulturkommissariatet.se/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=124_1572&products_id=15775

I think she will form the start of a very mixed unit of Free company, probably representing the remants of a village or citys population.

Basically, this will be the start for my new Empire army. Yes, I will make them look historically sweet but still aim to make an Empire army that looks a bit different but will be Empire still.

It will most likely be a Nordland or Middenland army. A large block of pike (yeah, I know, spears in reality but pikes looks cooler) with shoote in support, that are forming a start in what Theoderic Gausser terms Nordlands New Model army. However, support comes from bretonnian mercenaries, dissaffected low nobles and runaway peasants who have formed their own mercenary company and now fight for the Empire. What a perfect excuse to mix sweet minis from different historical periods!  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 06, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
Ugh!  There are those Perry's again!  Stop it!  I'm not going to be able to resist, and I already bought some. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 07, 2011, 04:49:37 PM
"Join the power of the dark side...." :ph34r:

I will most likely get a second box when they get one in stock. I cannot wait until I get home in a week and see if it has arrived. Man, I am really getting into the period now, with me working here at Glimmingehus. I gotta finds a good bretonnian sounding name for the regiment that also say "Sod off!" towards the pompous bret king and his lords. To the annoyance of those oversensitive bret players one had to deal with back in Animosity 5. Besides the one who was on our team, who had a beautiful idea of the bretonnians as not being all paragons of virtues and whatnot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 16, 2011, 03:58:27 PM
More swiss from artizan, yay!

(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1850.jpg)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1851.jpg)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1852.jpg)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1853.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 16, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
Those look good.  Is this in addition to what they've already produced?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on June 17, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
Somewhere on the Internet (probably the dogs of war website) is a list of all the alternative miniatures suppliers that could be used as pikemen in an empire army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 17, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
I like the look of these.

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Sarmatian-Cataphract-command.png)

(http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/neo/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Sarmatian-Cataphracts.png)

Bit 'early' for WHFB, but who cares .................   :engel:


I like the idea of the kontos wielded two-handed ...... and imagine the rider polevaulting off his horse occasionally  :closed-eyes:


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 17, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.  I have a unit of 10 GB russian cavalry that I am just in the process of finishing.

These guys look nicer though - any ideas on whether they are metal or plastic?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 18, 2011, 09:10:14 AM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.

No way!

Wrong by 1000 years!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 18, 2011, 09:30:51 AM
but how will these compare to GW? I've seen some warlords metal mini's and decided that they were way tho small for use next to gw. How about their plastics?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 18, 2011, 11:04:41 AM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.

No way!

Wrong by 1000 years!

Is that historical nerdism .................  :engel:

Who cares  -  this is Fantasy - they could have been living in shangri-la all this time, or released from a magic spell.   :closed-eyes:

WG stuff does tend to be more 25mm, and their 'ancients' horses tend to be more like ponies compared to GW horses.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 18, 2011, 11:09:11 AM
I mean that they look nothing like Polish winged hussars or Cossacks, and so have no business being in a Kislev army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 18, 2011, 03:33:40 PM
They will look small next to GW cavalry, but then again GW cavalry all run around on elephant sized horses.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 18, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
If your army is made up of at least no GW sized cavalry, there will be no problem. And they look sweeet.... Damn... They look very sweet. I want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on June 18, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry.

No way!

Wrong by 1000 years!
Who cares  -  this is Fantasy
:icon_mad:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on June 20, 2011, 05:54:54 AM
Could make for some nice ungol or kislev heavy cavalry. 

+1

They would make a smart addition to a Kislev line up offering something between the outriders and the Heavy Gryphon Knights.
Good find Midaski.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2011, 12:06:59 PM
Got some of these - arrived today.

They were in a separate thread on their own, but I felt they deserved a mention in this thread too.


(http://trollforged.com/images/fs_overlay_human_josef-ochmann_knight-1_resin.jpg)

(http://trollforged.com/images/fs_overlay_human_josef-ochmann_knight-2_resin.jpg)

(http://trollforged.com/images/fs_overlay_human_josef-ochmann_knight-3_resin.jpg)

They are the lightweight plastic resin material and are decent sharp sculpts.
Little bits of wafer like flash, and one of the overhead sword guys has a bent weapon, but I understand it straightens well if warmed up.

Size wise they are more a 25mm - they are skinnier than a Marauder Reiksgard and a few millimetres shorter though the built in base will raise them on a standard 20mm square base. Although they have a Reiksgard feel they are a better size match to the late 1980's 'fighters' and early bretonnian looking knights.

Still at $2 each they are a bargain.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 28, 2011, 12:51:37 PM
Those look very good. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on June 28, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
Those look very good. :icon_cool:

They do! I mostly love the fact they're not metal!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 28, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
Who? Where? I missed these earlier
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2011, 02:08:03 PM
How did you miss the original thread - I don't know - call yourself gamers ..............  :icon_rolleyes:

http://trollforged.com/shelf_fantasy_Humans.html

Ed's a very nice man.

I got 4 of each so 24$ plus 6$ postage and it went through at just over £20 for 12 models of that quality .......... and I know I said 13 earlier, but because I am a nice man too  :engel: he sent me a freebie -  one of the chaos looking guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 28, 2011, 03:00:05 PM
Nice stuff. I like the baroque female knight
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 04, 2011, 06:39:38 PM
I just saw the Wargames Factory skeletons. On first sight, I like them. Does anybody have them and can tell me how they look in reality?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 05, 2011, 02:00:01 AM
I just saw the Wargames Factory skeletons. On first sight, I like them. Does anybody have them and can tell me how they look in reality?

I liked what I saw on the net as well.  I just ordered 30 off ebay, and I'll try to get you some pics once they get here.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 07, 2011, 03:40:43 AM
I just saw the Wargames Factory skeletons. On first sight, I like them. Does anybody have them and can tell me how they look in reality?

I liked what I saw on the net as well.  I just ordered 30 off ebay, and I'll try to get you some pics once they get here.

As promised, images:

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/towishimp/IMG-20110706-00003.jpg)

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/towishimp/IMG-20110706-00002.jpg)

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z321/towishimp/IMG-20110706-00004.jpg)

I assembled two samples, one with the "coming out of the ground" base and one as a full figure.  As you can probably see, they're a tad shorter than a GW fig, and seem very thin.  The thinness also made assembly a bit tougher than my previous experiences with GW figs.  But overall, I'm happy with them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 07, 2011, 07:25:57 AM
So basically they are the right size and dimensions and actually look like skeletons.

Unlike the mishapen lumps from GW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 07, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Because in your world, all people have melon heads?

They suck - just as the GW TK skeletons suck.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 07, 2011, 03:05:40 PM
How can they suck without lungs?

 :icon_confused:


I think they look okish but would prefer them armed and armoured.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 07, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
Yeah, not much of service being provided by a skeleton lady...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 07, 2011, 04:01:58 PM
Thank you very much, towishimp! :::cheers:::

I like them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 07, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
awwwwwwww Mantic finally brought out a model that might even convince Shadowlord that they can at least compete with Games Workshop


http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html)





......well maybe not.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on July 07, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
ROTFL !
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 07, 2011, 04:33:02 PM
This here


http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/23102-1-show-male_desperate_merc.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/23102-1-show-male_desperate_merc.html)

is one smexy engineer with repeater handgun model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 07, 2011, 04:41:30 PM
awwwwwwww Mantic finally brought out a model that might even convince Shadowlord that they can at least compete with Games Workshop


http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Elves/Cavalry/Product/Elven-Drakon-Riders.html)


......well maybe not.

Hey they are perfect for how I see elven dragon riders...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on July 07, 2011, 04:44:42 PM
People seem to really like that model Fandir (the malifaux one).

I don't.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 07, 2011, 09:04:45 PM
Wow, not impressed by those Mantic elves on dragons.  Not one bit.

If I was going to have a high elf army, I'd buy GW over that.

- - -

The Malifaux model might look better if his hat wasn't riding so far up on his head.  Might.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on July 07, 2011, 10:01:57 PM
I like it this  :engel:

This set includes

    2 x Elven Drakon Riders
    1 x Elves Poster Guide and Sticker Sheet
    1 x Mantic Point
    2 x Bases
    1 x Mantic Case with protective foam
What look like that  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 07, 2011, 10:22:48 PM
MAntic are really shit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 07, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
Well the ones you get with the normal figures are like VHS cases with foam padding, not a bad system and better than nothing.

And Mantic are not shit, they fill a niche and Some of their stuff is good value for money but a lot of it is kak.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 08, 2011, 05:20:17 AM
 :icon_lol:

And people complained about SoM monsters.

Thanks for the laugh Fandir.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 08, 2011, 07:46:04 AM
 :icon_confused:

Laugh?

I was serious they reminded me fondly of these Drake riders

http://media.photobucket.com/image/master%20of%20magic%20drake%20riders/VagabondZOD/MoM20/javier131.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/master%20of%20magic%20drake%20riders/VagabondZOD/MoM20/javier131.jpg)


awwwww the joy this game gave and gives me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 08, 2011, 12:45:58 PM
Yes, of course you did.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on July 08, 2011, 01:10:47 PM
And people complained about SoM monsters.

Because they are small crybabies.

The SoM releases are pretty damn nice. And mostly plastic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 08, 2011, 01:56:09 PM
Because they are small crybabies.

But Midaski is old...  :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on July 08, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
But Midaski is old...  :icon_confused:

Very old... this could be why...

Quote from: Somerandomsite
It seems like Babies and Old people have alot in common: They both wear Diapers, they both eat mush, they both have wrinkles, they both have trouble speaking, and they both need someone to care for them

That's for all the "Young people" stuff Midaski and GamesPoet pulled!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 08, 2011, 03:01:30 PM
 :icon_lol:  I might respond, but this isn't the back table. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 08, 2011, 06:15:38 PM
Hey I like most of the Drizzle of Cantrips figures, and I even like half the scenery pieces
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 12, 2011, 10:42:41 AM
Because they are small crybabies.

But Midaski is old...  :icon_confused:

We start out in diapers....and we end in them. Human nature. Especially true for guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 12, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
Hey I like most of the Drizzle of Cantrips figures, and I even like half the scenery pieces
Do you have a link to a site?  I tried googling and got garbage.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 12, 2011, 03:29:23 PM
Hey I like most of the Drizzle of Cantrips figures, and I even like half the scenery pieces
Do you have a link to a site?  I tried googling and got garbage.

He means Storm of Magic, GP. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 20, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Quickly, folks! A piece of advice: Should I pay close to 40 EUR for a triplet of giant bats and some swarms of small ones?

Visible here:
http://www.masq-mini.com/aid-260-Deal-of-the-month.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 21, 2011, 09:34:01 AM
If you want them, yes! They are nice bats, and there are so few nice bats around.

Though I'm upset by the incorrect use of apostrophes in their advert.


Or did you already miss the deadline?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 21, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
Those are some mean looking bats.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 21, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
I say ....don΄t Vampire bats are ugly no matter by whom or how they are used.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 21, 2011, 11:30:28 AM
Bats are bat-tacular.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 21, 2011, 01:10:50 PM
Don't - it could be very costly as next you'll want bat-tallions of them ................

 :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on July 21, 2011, 01:32:33 PM
Gah these puns are driving me batty!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 21, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
Batten down the hatches - there's a pun storm on the way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 21, 2011, 05:30:58 PM
Or did you already miss the deadline?

I did. Thanks nonetheless!


Edit: I bought them anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 22, 2011, 09:26:49 AM
Ahhhh! He bought them! Prepare the defence batteries!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 22, 2011, 09:31:02 AM
Or did you already miss the deadline?

I did. Thanks nonetheless!


Edit: I bought them anyway.

Ha I knew it..now I won my bat.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on July 22, 2011, 11:57:12 AM
Please guys, just stop this debate.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 25, 2011, 11:20:09 PM
Does FW count as "other manufacturer"?

Anyway: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/ELSPETH-VON-DRAKEN-ON-CARMINE-DRAGON.html

*sigh...*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 26, 2011, 07:43:58 AM
A pity special characters are so frowned upon.

Still I think about fielding a lore of death wizard now instead of a lore of light one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on July 29, 2011, 12:21:53 PM

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bruegelburg_deal_2.jpg)
http://www.lead-adventure.com/

Not quite as many jems as set 1, but still liked them enough to order on sight. :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 29, 2011, 12:26:41 PM
Great stuff! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 29, 2011, 12:41:36 PM
Indeed! Quite a few that could join Mad Griet in the ranks of my free company!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on July 29, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
 ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::

Man those are fantastic...I love all his sculpts!!!  There isn't enough time or money to keep up with all the great figures that are coming out these days!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 29, 2011, 03:04:01 PM
When checking out the site, its neat to discover that youdon't need ot buy all of them at once, they come in smaller groups, too, :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 29, 2011, 06:34:29 PM
They are more warhammer-y than actual warhammer stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 29, 2011, 10:16:00 PM
Word Uryen! Word!  :icon_cool:

Like I said, I have one Bruegelburgh mini and it is so warhammery. I will certainly try to get more for my free company.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 29, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
I think I am going to have to buy the lot at some point :/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on July 29, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
Agree boys agree  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 30, 2011, 08:54:31 AM
The russian Ratnik fellas really know how to do things well. And they have done well in taking inspiration from Pieter Bruegels eminent 16th century paintings. I really love their look in their Post-Apocalypse range of minis, that also seems partially inspired by Stalker... So good. I am thinking about getting some too as Imperial Guard, henchmen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 30, 2011, 06:39:52 PM
Just to conclude this, I have received my bats today, and they are nice sculpts.

The swarms in particular look like actual swarms rather than the emo version of whack-a-mole.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 31, 2011, 11:15:22 PM
Just to conclude this, I have received my bats today, and they are nice sculpts.

The swarms in particular look like actual swarms rather than the emo version of whack-a-mole.

Thanks for the follow-up.  I'm considering getting some of them down the road, myself.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on August 01, 2011, 08:23:37 AM
The russian Ratnik fellas really know how to do things well. And they have done well in taking inspiration from Pieter Bruegels eminent 16th century paintings. I really love their look in their Post-Apocalypse range of minis, that also seems partially inspired by Stalker... So good. I am thinking about getting some too as Imperial Guard, henchmen.

I like his nick it is Warrior when you translate  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 06, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
Second batch of excellent minis from my second most impressive - but they do not have a cool apokalypse game - mini manufacturer spotted in this thread.

Awesome stuff!  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on August 07, 2011, 03:22:13 PM
There is a dire need for a cool Apokalypse game then, but then, is there not plenty of them around from different manufacturers... :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 14, 2011, 04:37:31 AM


Been away for a while. Just spotted this over at TMP...

http://tigerminiatures.co.uk/page4.htm
or in the US...
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/landsknechts.html

Some of the poses and proportion look a bit off, but I'd probably give them a chance for an "in the flesh" trial/review. (I thought the OG landsknechts looked a little rough at first, but they painted up nicely.) No idea how these scale up with any other manufacturers.



I am dying to get my hands on some of those Breugelburg figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on August 15, 2011, 11:26:53 AM
In section with Balkan Wars some parts of my family would be very offended (ohh yes my grandfather was in that wars  and he didn't have some opinion for most of army he was participant in both Balkan wars and Both WW) and his army don't have even single miniature  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on August 15, 2011, 01:42:08 PM


Been away for a while. Just spotted this over at TMP...

http://tigerminiatures.co.uk/page4.htm
or in the US...
http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/landsknechts.html

Some of the poses and proportion look a bit off, but I'd probably give them a chance for an "in the flesh" trial/review. (I thought the OG landsknechts looked a little rough at first, but they painted up nicely.) No idea how these scale up with any other manufacturers.

Yeah the price is right on those but man they look a bit rough...I look fwd to your in hand review.

Ratnik is the man!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 19, 2011, 03:19:43 PM
Wargames Factory have the draft sprues up for their WSS Cavalry.

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Announcements/wss-cavalry-1-front.jpg)

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Announcements/wss-cavalry-1-back.jpg)

and the horsies ..............

(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/Announcements/wss-cavalry-2-front.jpg)

Seems to be choices of heads and torsos ......
Some very 'Roundhead' looking helmets there.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on August 21, 2011, 08:12:15 PM
What's WSS stand for?

Those sprues look pretty cool!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on August 21, 2011, 09:03:55 PM
The War of Spanish Succession
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on August 21, 2011, 09:17:27 PM
The War of Spanish Succession

Ah, thanks.  So a little away from my time period of interest, but they still look workable as some sort of light cav, maybe with some headswaps.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 27, 2011, 02:19:29 AM
I'm wondering why they have empty sprue space on these.

Not sure these would really work for Renaissance era fantasy, but then again, it is fantasy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 27, 2011, 10:51:54 AM
Renaissance is dubious, but Fantasy - well ...........  :closed-eyes:

There are a few heads that could probably go to ECW or TYW - the torsos have a bit of militia set feel to them.


I also spotted the new 3D image of their prototype Samurai.

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/announcements/3d-samurai-preview

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/announcements/3d-samurai-preview-part-2

They're 360 degree revolving images.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 30, 2011, 03:59:38 AM


Just saw this link at TMP. Someone is putting the Perry plastics to good use. Inspiring for Empire armies, in fact.

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=32497.msg383533

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 30, 2011, 01:21:01 PM
Those look very good! Thanks for sharing.  :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 02, 2011, 11:26:23 PM


http://www.fantization.com/demonpanda-32mmx1figsept06.aspx

(http://www.fantization.com/ProductImages/msb_toys/legend_monkey_king/MSB-DP001.gif)


:-D

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 05, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
That is just mad!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 05, 2011, 09:21:26 AM
Don΄t let Mogsam see this....it could shatter his sensible mind.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 06, 2011, 10:48:39 AM
Jabba the Panda!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 10, 2011, 11:52:46 PM
Someone on Warseer pointed out that there are some good pics of the Perry plastic Wars of the Roses cavalry 3-ups.

(I love the AWI British on that page as well...)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 11, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
German armour? I didn΄t know they had Panzers back then.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 11, 2011, 03:20:42 PM
You had Florian Geyer and his Schwartze haufe among other things.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on September 12, 2011, 07:48:10 AM
You had Florian Geyer and his Schwartze haufe among other things.

Great, thank you. Now the corresponding song is playing in my head (it's an awesome one, but still)...

Spieί voran, drauf und dran,
setzt auf's Klosterdach den roten Hahn!

 ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 13, 2011, 03:12:08 AM
wargames foundry currently has all of their ancients on sale.

Anyone in canada or us interested in splitting any units?  I might be interested in some gladiators or other stuff....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 13, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Is there a link to that sale?

They had a summer sale for their Vikings, Saxons, Orcs, and small Persian sprues thats over, but couldn't find anything about their ancients.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 13, 2011, 05:55:12 PM
Foundry not Factory .................


20% off Foundry means they are still about 40% too dear ...................  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 13, 2011, 06:51:53 PM
Ah ... lol ... I'll try to see that differently next time.

- - - - -

The Perrys got a new website up and running.

Here's a link to their page regarding all the plastic items on their worktable ...

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/pages.php?page=plastics-workbench

Really looking forward to some of those. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on September 13, 2011, 06:59:19 PM
Foundry not Factory .................


20% off Foundry means they are still about 40% too dear ...................  :icon_rolleyes:

Yeah, I concur.  They look great, and I can think of Warhammer uses for a lot of those ancients, but dang...$20 for six guys just doesn't cut it.  That's about as expensive as buying GW new.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 13, 2011, 08:37:57 PM


There are plenty of other options in the historical market.

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/p/28mm-figure-manufacturers.html

My current favorites are Crusader, A&A and Artizan. But there's plenty of choice.



Just spotted this link at Warseer:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fireforge-Games/271339052885426?sk=photos

Looks like another new plastic figure company.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 14, 2011, 05:19:18 AM
A new website for the battleforge.
I never had any idea he had been sculpting so many different models.
Can't wait to see the new Halfling Ogres when they come out...
This is a very interesting option...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Sailing_Boat_HAF9801
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on September 14, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
I just have to remake my knights into a Warhammer version of Der Schwartze Haufe, fittingly refluffed into a unit of Morrish followers.

Got to link the song aswell.  :biggriin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9sVcRxopJU&feature=related
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 14, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
A new website for the battleforge.
I never had any idea he had been sculpting so many different models.
Can't wait to see the new Halfling Ogres when they come out...
This is a very interesting option...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Sailing_Boat_HAF9801


They look a little too rustic for me.

And something that's bugged me about a lot of halfling figures... the guts hanging out. Now, knowing that they are wide of girth, wouldn't their own tailors/families make clothes that fit a halfling's physique instead of consistently making their clothes too small to cover their gut? It's like they make clothes for some other race, or maybe they get them second hand from human children.

And then there are the teeth...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 14, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
I just have to remake my knights into a Warhammer version of Der Schwartze Haufe, fittingly refluffed into a unit of Morrish followers.

Well, it would suit your sympathy for the common farmer. :-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 15, 2011, 06:22:51 AM
A new website for the battleforge.
I never had any idea he had been sculpting so many different models.
Can't wait to see the new Halfling Ogres when they come out...
This is a very interesting option...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Sailing_Boat_HAF9801


They look a little too rustic for me.

And something that's bugged me about a lot of halfling figures... the guts hanging out. Now, knowing that they are wide of girth, wouldn't their own tailors/families make clothes that fit a halfling's physique instead of consistently making their clothes too small to cover their gut? It's like they make clothes for some other race, or maybe they get them second hand from human children.

And then there are the teeth...

Halflings are supposed to be rustic  - Lol
They are not the merchant bankers of the warhammer world  :icon_mrgreen:
They till fields, grind flour at the windmill or watermill etc. they make beer, they are not fashion icons wearing patent leather shoes and if their clothes are ill fitting after a long summer and a good harvest then they don't mind at all.
No dental care packages in Hobbiton I'm afraid.  :icon_mrgreen:
These are not Mini-me, they are halflings   :::cheers:::  I'm afraid you have a very weird view of what a halfling is meant to be. :icon_confused:

Small towns, rural environments, horses and carts an innate love of food, beer and pipeweed, running about in barefeet and loving it.
Stealing mushrooms and carrots from a distant neighbours garden, fishing inthe rivers, streams or lakes and ponds, keeping dogs and tending sheep and chickens.
A little too rustic Hahahahahahahahah  Are you having a laugh.  :icon_mrgreen:
I love the realism and above all the 'character' and the humour captured in the battleforge models, thats why I've shelled out a chunk of money for these guys because when you own them you will see the lovely character first hand, in your hand, and when you paint them the humour comes forth.
I really fell in love with  the standard bearer who has the flag wrapped around his face from a sudden gust of wind and you can see the features of his face disproportionately represented coming through the fabric.
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Halfling_Standardbearer_0105_HAF0105
That is what halflings are all about. That is an inspired idea backed up by a quality sculpt.
I'm particularly glad he has done some mounted halflings as well because those in the LotR range from G-dub are just too small in scale to fit in with the regular warhammer sized 28mm models.
Halflings are too rustic, thats gonna be my sig, that is  a classic oxymoron.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blauer Nebel on September 15, 2011, 06:32:49 AM
I dunno'. I think after all this time many might have left and moved into cities and become middleman minorities, much like the Jews were.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 15, 2011, 08:44:09 AM
I think there are two kinds of halflings

The kind described as living in the West Country, drinking zoider and generally being mildly comic if not quite idyllic

And those that live and work in the cities. Who are vicious organised crime gangs, controlling all the city vices etc. There's room for both. Just the first type would raise their own militia, the second would be black marketeers or simply serve in the regular city militia in some form.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Davey on September 15, 2011, 09:20:24 AM
I think there are two kinds of halflings

The kind described as living in the West Country, drinking zoider and generally being mildly comic if not quite idyllic

And those that live and work in the cities. Who are vicious organised crime gangs, controlling all the city vices etc. There's room for both. Just the first type would raise their own militia, the second would be black marketeers or simply serve in the regular city militia in some form.

Never thought about Halflings in that way, but it actually makes a lot of sense - although the majority of models do seem to fit with the first (country bumpkin) kind. I've got some of the Battleforge mounted Halflings and they're really great... planning on getting started on painting them this weekend.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 15, 2011, 11:10:34 AM
All this talk of battleforge... makes me want to get some!  Perhaps this month I will finally shell out some cash for a few.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 15, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
I've got some of the Battleforge mounted Halflings and they're really great... planning on getting started on painting them this weekend.
Rumour is the Battleforge is going to be producing mounted Halfling Knights and armoured halflings on foot are coming soon-ish, as well as a shield wall and Halfling 'state troopers' who will have less of the 'country bumpkin' about them and more of the clean lines you would expect from a semi-professional military unit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he will come up with.
The Halfling ogres are not far away at all.
Word is 2 are sculpted already and two more will be coming soon, possibly a standard bearer. :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 15, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
OK, even if I acknowledged a rustic archetype (and I think there are different types of halflings described in fantasy literature) I still don't see why they would design all their clothes to specifically not fit properly.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Davey on September 15, 2011, 07:54:50 PM
I've got some of the Battleforge mounted Halflings and they're really great... planning on getting started on painting them this weekend.
Rumour is the Battleforge is going to be producing mounted Halfling Knights and armoured halflings on foot are coming soon-ish, as well as a shield wall and Halfling 'state troopers' who will have less of the 'country bumpkin' about them and more of the clean lines you would expect from a semi-professional military unit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what he will come up with.
The Halfling ogres are not far away at all.
Word is 2 are sculpted already and two more will be coming soon, possibly a standard bearer. :engel:

Cheers for the heads-up - something else to add to the 'must buy' list  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 15, 2011, 08:42:31 PM
I'm a big fan of halflings (I have around 1500 metals from different manufacturers)
I do like th character found in the much older style of pre-slotta halflings and early slotta halflings.
Part of the inherent charm of the Battleforge halflings is that they have tapped into that 'feel' and it definitely floats my boat.
I love the whacky, the slightly dishevelled, the startled and the humourous 'feel' of the old halflings from the 1980's and the Battleforge is coming out with that 'feel' in adundance in his sculpts.
It may not be for everyone but I love it.
There is definitely something quirky about halflings and also an element of silliness that I love to indulge.
When that comes out in the sculpt it becomes a must have miniature for my enduring halfling obsession.

I've had a good look through the likes of Mirliton (way too small for 28mm as it is these days) and Black hat, (nice sculpts, not a lot of variety though and they look  more like small slim human children than a separate race with their own characteristics. Not 'characterful' enough for my taste in halflings, they are too 'samey' for my palate),
Lots of other manufacurers dabble in making a few halflings, (GW still has the small select few halfling options sculpted by the mercurial Perry's over 20 years ago) and some of them are very nice, but none of them are dedicated to covering the entire race and filling in all the blanks so you can use an entire army as a proxy for instance.
I'm aware its highly likely the new war machine crews will be released before the end of October, probably sooner.
There are Halfling rangers in the pipeline, which is I suppose what Lumpin Croops fighting Co*ks were as a regiment of renown. The Battleforge are going to produce their own ranger unit in time to come.
It's a very fitting unit type for halflings, what with their innate ability with woodcraft and moving very stealthily through woodlands.
As a I said earlier the Battleforge is going to be producing armoured mounted knights, armoured foot knights, a special shield wall and the rangers.
It's highly likely that there will be a unit of state trooper halflings as well which will contrast nicely with the more peasant like Militia.
More whacky war machines are in the offing and the halfling range is apparently going to be open ended.
So what ever the Battleforge likes the idea of , they will sculpt it as an addition to the warhammer / halfling milieu.
For instance, it's pretty ourt of the ordinary but apparently two Halfling ogres are finished greens and there are two more to come.
Wouldn't it be great to field something like a glorious 4th edition style Empire army with all the elements taken up as hobbits.
I would also love to see a special Halfling Oliphant in time to come...  :icon_mrgreen:
With the consistent outpourings from the Battleforge there is every chance it could become a reality.
Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 15, 2011, 09:34:51 PM
Onwards and upwards.

Onwards, I'll give you. But upwards - not really a halfling's forte.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 15, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
Is there a link to where these battleforge rumours are discussed?  Anyone have WIP pics?

I like their questing fighters of reknown or whatever they are called.  Some of the sword militia are nice (especially buckethead) but I am not too fond of the spear halflings - some of the proportions seem a little wacky.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 16, 2011, 05:31:21 AM
I think the proportions are more of a situation where militia spear represent a peasant community where you have Lemmy who is nearly 4 feet 6 inches and Clem who is 3 feet 3 inches working side by side in the fields, looking a bit odd and rag-tag if you like when they stand together in a 'similar' uniform as it were.
The 'state troops' for the halflings that are coming out will offer the more regimented and orderly type halfling heights, girths, uniforms and relative proportions.
I have ever been plagued by plastic miniatures for all races that come out in units exactly the same height, width, girth and volume.
I have always looked hard and long for the 'different ' miniatures that have differences in more than just a head swap or a weapon change.
I see Halflings as a kind of semi-organised throng with an aspect of individuality about them that you are not going to expect in Men, Dwarves or Elves for example.
So the purposeful differentiation of proportions in the range, is only really achievable because of the metal casting.
If this were plastic injection moulding then everything would be too 'samey'. Squashed down into digitised uniformity for mass production, and understandably so because the cost of the set up for mass production of plastic injection moulding is something that the vast majority of the boutique or cottage industry miniature sculptors and manufacturers find well outside their fiscal capabilities.
Consequently many of the 'older brigade'  (grognards  :icon_twisted:) prefer metals, not so much because of the medium itself, but because it means the potential for differentiation within the framework of an already much loved genre.
Now some folk adore having every model in a unit nigh on identical, and it works with a particular spectacularity in napoleonics for instance.
I however prefer to have virtually every model slightly different and in a more rag tag army like Goblins or Halflings, a high level of individuality throughout the army.
That is another reason I have gravitated to the Battleforge for my halflings, not only is it very difficult to find any manufacturer anywhere who offers any kind of variety for halflings in terms of different unit availability, but also for differentiation and individuality inside those units, and the ongoing development of more and more different units coming out.
I love the way the new website allows for the purchase of individual miniatures. I don't have to buy two packs of anything to get two of the particular model I want.  :::cheers:::
I can cherry pick to my hearts desire and get exactly what I want for each unit and exactly how many I want (or that my budget and mrs will allow  :icon_redface:)
I also like having that feeling of wonderment at what will come out next and what will it be like... I really like that feeling of hopeful expectation.
For a collector and painter of all things halfling the Battleforge is a treasure trove  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 16, 2011, 10:13:47 AM
Onwards and upwards.

Onwards, I'll give you. But upwards - not really a halfling's forte.

Ha!

Your amount of snarky comments has increased rapidly as of late. :eusa_clap: Are you trying to make me redundant?

Speaking of which, how much is Whitey paying you for it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 17, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
OK, even if I acknowledged a rustic archetype (and I think there are different types of halflings described in fantasy literature) I still don't see why they would design all their clothes to specifically not fit properly.
Maybe its not the tailor's fault.  Maybe its a cultural thing, the halfling just walks into the store and picks the first thing off the rack.  After all, he's got more important things to do like farm, eat, and be merry, or for those with other inclinations, find invisibility rings and slay dragons. :icon_wink:

:engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 17, 2011, 04:30:12 PM
It's a well known fact that halfling weavers are guilty of tentering abuse. Over tentered cloth will, as all of us know, tend to shrink back to its proper size upon the first rainfall or other form of soaking. The chap-halflings who sold the cloth, however, are only too happy to take the extra money for the apparent extra size.

The halflings themselves don't seem to mind, and have even adopted the shrunken clothes as a fashion, but I say humans look ridiculous in such garb. This I would suggest that all those loyal to the Emperor should boycott halfling broadcloth or kerseys and buy only that woven by human hands. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 17, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
I should buy some of those and put little gut plates on them. Maybe they're showing off.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on September 17, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: Justnorth
As a I said earlier the Battleforge is going to be producing armoured mounted knights, armoured foot knights, a special shield wall and the rangers.
It's highly likely that there will be a unit of state trooper halflings as well which will contrast nicely with the more peasant like Militia.
More whacky war machines are in the offing and the halfling range is apparently going to be open ended.
So what ever the Battleforge likes the idea of , they will sculpt it as an addition to the warhammer / halfling milieu.
For instance, it's pretty ourt of the ordinary but apparently two Halfling ogres are finished greens and there are two more to come.
Wouldn't it be great to field something like a glorious 4th edition style Empire army with all the elements taken up as hobbits.
I would also love to see a special Halfling Oliphant in time to come...  :icon_mrgreen:
With the consistent outpourings from the Battleforge there is every chance it could become a reality.

Yeah, it would be great... the only problem is that they'd all be sculpted by Battleforge.

The range is far to low quality in the sculpting for me. Its too bad too, I was excited when it started, and like that he has grand plans to fill a niche, but I just wish he hired a more talented sculptor.  Look at that boat for example.  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 18, 2011, 01:54:21 AM
OK... here's maybe a better explanation. I like the way hobbits were portrayed in most of the Tolkein art, including the movies. Rustic, but not inbred mutant hillbillies.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 18, 2011, 03:11:54 AM
I do agree that the sculpting is on the lower end - its not GW or some of the better foundry stuff.  But most of it is decent, and would look great with the right paintjob.

My comment about the proportions of the spear halflings - it relates to the sculpting rather than variation between individuals.  For instance, look at the guy on the left:

(http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/pub/files/Halfling/Spearmen/1315152333_battleforge%20halfling%20x3%20packs%20Spearmen%20B.jpg)

The head just looks... weird.

But that just means I will have to buy from their other ranges.  Many of the others look great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 19, 2011, 05:53:46 AM
To be fair those spearmen are knocking on four years old and they are the first sculpts for the range, the new spearmen will be considerably different and I don't know if those models will even be available when the new sculpts are up for sale. There has been a significant and steady improvement in the quality of the sculpts over the last 4-5 years as I've been watching them develop into a range, from something that was more like an experiment and a bit of fun.
I'm not sure when the spears will be revisited either but as others have pointed out, there are a lot of other excellent units available in the range and 'nobody' does the variation he offers, and he is only expanding his variation all the time.

@Cjp, horses for courses, I think the boat is perfect, I love it. Halflings are not noted for their desire to travel, especially upon water, did you see what passed for a ferry at Buckland in LotR? It was a timber raft so the boat here fits perfectly as an extension of that. I hardly expect to see halflings ploughing up the Buckland river in a St Tropez super yacht  :icon_mrgreen:
I understand you like totally clean lines, I get it, but with the halflings I will take the character and humour in the sculpt everytime over a meticulous line detail that I would expect in say, Elves or Imperial Knights a la the new Perry Knights.
However halfling sculpts like these are still top drawer in my book...
http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/product/Adventuring_Halflings_Pack_HAF0002-0006-0301-0302
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 20, 2011, 10:02:31 AM
Most perfect Vampire Lord....ever.

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24959-1-show-discworld_havelock_vetinari_1.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24959-1-show-discworld_havelock_vetinari_1.html)

Technicus on Robohorse

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24960-1-show-wolsung_snorri_rottstein_on_golemic_flea_1.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24960-1-show-wolsung_snorri_rottstein_on_golemic_flea_1.html)

Kommisar for Imperial Guard
http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24875-1-show-kapitan_ivanka_kurganova_28mm.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/artikelinfo/24875-1-show-kapitan_ivanka_kurganova_28mm.html)


http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/99998-1-koepfe.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/99998-1-koepfe.html)

I really like some of the orc heads...the pirate heads are extremely well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 26, 2011, 02:33:19 AM
OK, I'd be tempted to field an engineer on robohorse just for the chance to use that flea model!


Spotted these at Frothers, they don't seem to be up on the Freebooter site yet:

http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=35405

Lustrian troops anyone? They'd almost make better Lustrian themed Wood Elf wardancers, I think. (Hmmm... now that could be a cool themed army...)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 26, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
Has anyone ( mainly USA or Germany I would guess ) have any experience of this company?

http://www.bronzeagemin.com/

They say 32mm but the minis look a bit skinny.

I love the dynamism of the VIking poses -

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/cool%20or%20not/Viking-1-painted.jpg)

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/28mm-vikings/28mm-viking-s4c.jpg)

and the Greeks .....

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/32mm-greeks/Greek%20Heroes%20set%201/Greek-Heroes-set-1.jpg)

and the Amazons,

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/32%20mm-Amazons/Amazon-set-1.jpg)


 and the Pirates look great too.

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/Historical/28mm-pirates/28mm-pirate-girl-14.jpg)

.... and I am told there will be 30% off this week .................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 26, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
Gah, their figures are lovely but their website is awful!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 26, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
Damn thoooooose greeks are fantastic....thank god I have not bought the wargames dudes yet.
(they might join some day too)...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on September 27, 2011, 02:57:19 AM
Has anyone ( mainly USA or Germany I would guess ) have any experience of this company?

(http://www.bronzeagemin.com/IMAGES/miniatures/25MM/cool%20or%20not/Viking-1-painted.jpg)


As I understand it, its a one man operation.  A friend owned a couple of the female sculpts from the sci-fi section.  They had a crude home made feel.  I didn't care much for them.

But it looks like he's expanded his catalogue, the historical stuff looks good.   Though that vikings head looks like Fizzgig.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 27, 2011, 09:02:56 AM
Damn thoooooose greeks are fantastic....thank god I have not bought the wargames dudes yet.
(they might join some day too)...

He has a German supplier - though most things seemed out of stock .........................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on September 27, 2011, 09:18:37 AM
They probably got shipped to Greece.

Boom, boom.



Anyway, that looks good at first glance! Thanks for the link, I will give it a closer look.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on September 27, 2011, 11:16:07 AM
.... and I am told there will be 30% off this week .................

Mids, any idea where we can find details about the 30% discount?

I've been eyeballing his wasteland mutants for some time now as they're obviously modelled on the Green Martians of Edgar Rice Burroughs' "Barsoom" (of which I am a fan).

(I'm currently awaiting the arrival of a small order from TinMan (http://tinminis.com/TinManCatalog.htm) who also do not-Barsoom miniatures if it's of interest to anyone.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 27, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
They say 32mm but the minis look a bit skinny.



One man's "skinny" is another man's "more realistic proportions because they don't have oversized heads and hands or the build of a crossbreed with a Cabbage Patch doll."  :wink:

They look like their proportions aren't as exaggerated as most figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on September 27, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
@ Midaski ; yeah mate, I picked up some of those Vikings a while ago and the poses are nice and the sculpts are nice but for a Viking in 28mm they are sadly a bit skinny or should we say 'under-nourished' compared to the other Vikings and Saxons from a variety of manufacturers I already had so I didn't buy any more.
I use them as part of my berserker unit for my Human Barbarian horde, they're ok, they work fine as part of a table top skirmishing unit.
Some of these miniatures ...
http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/store.php?r=11&rule=Historical&id=35
...are just wonderful sculpts and as early Saxons they cross over into Vikings nicely.
They work well with Foundry as well.
I use them for leader models and front rank models for my Saxon/Viking horde. I prefer them over the nice Foundry options, but I'm not going to get rid of the Foundry Vikings because they although they are not my favourite, they are still good quality and they were a bargain on eBay.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 27, 2011, 08:36:19 PM
.... and I am told there will be 30% off this week .................

Mids, any idea where we can find details about the 30% discount?


I emailed him about UK suppliers - he emailed back and mentioned he was going to put it up - there may have been a problem with the 'how to order' page.
I've just ordered $101 worth which he dropped to $71 and then shipping was $13.95 for a box around the size of a VHS tape.
I bought 6 sets for $84.65 and paid through Paypal.

So 38 figures for around £56.00

Email him and mention my name.  :engel:

The Legend that is the Lord Chancellor lives on ..................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 29, 2011, 09:09:46 PM
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/index.php

Elf pirates!

(http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/news/commodorelr.jpg)

(http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/news/elves2lr.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 29, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
Elf pirates!

So now I can mix elves in with my mixed goblin, human, orc, dwarf and ogre Pirate army. Cool! And they will, I am sure, all get along like a house on fire.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 29, 2011, 10:37:53 PM
Looks like there are more elves in the Fantasy Pirates section.

I like the goblins a lot, but wish there were more"rank & file" looking gobbos. Half of them have big hats & look like captains/bosses.

At the last convention I went to, I had to decided between the pirate goblins and pirate girls. The ladies won. (Though I still haven't had a chance to paint any, yet!) But I really love all the Black Scorpion figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 01, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
But I really love all the Black Scorpion figures.

I like that orc sea captain they make. I need to buy it!



Perry miniatures wagon!

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/Ox_wagon_1.jpg)
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/ox_wagon_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 01, 2011, 11:33:45 AM
I really want that.

I nearly wrote 'really, really' but that would annoy me. And why annoy oneself? I ask you. That's something I really, really hate. Darn it!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on October 01, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
That will be a lovely baggage piece for the battlefield, hmmm...   :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on October 02, 2011, 10:01:36 AM
Nice, gonna have to get me one of them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 02, 2011, 02:06:54 PM


I like that the wagon comes stocked with "stuff." I've got some other wagons -- GW and Front Rank, I think -- but they're all empty. I keep planning on modeling some simple cargo, but once I finished painting them, I think my brain just moved them over to the "done" column. So now, when I use them I think, "man, I really need to get those wagons filled" but then forget about them again til the next time.



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2011, 03:39:21 PM
Some shameless selfpromotion: Dwarf pistoliers and other cavalry available now.  :engel:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UFJULU-LiQs/TmS5l8kNj3I/AAAAAAAAATI/59phvKEy2Qw/s1600/dwpm01.jpg)

You can find them here: http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on October 05, 2011, 06:17:38 AM
Maybe this has been posted earlier but some big boats for Empire

http://ainstycastings.co.uk/index.php/cPath/63%5Burl%5D%5B/url%5D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 05, 2011, 01:02:19 PM
Maybe this has been posted earlier but some big boats for Empire

I like big boats, and I can not lie.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 05, 2011, 01:23:25 PM
They look very well done. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 08, 2011, 04:12:36 PM
I think these are fairly new - just seen them promoted by Warlord Games newsletter, though they say they are not selling them  :icon_question:  well yet as I assume they are a US company and I don't know if they have any UK or European resellers.


Oriental ?
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471704_preview.jpg)

Roman
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471705_preview.jpg)

Mayans
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471707_preview.jpg)

(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471708_preview.jpg)

Polynesian
(http://www.paymastergames.com//~stores/471715_preview.jpg)


There are a few others ...........

http://www.paymastergames.com/Store.html

A size comparison for some of their models
(http://www.paymastergames.com/pictures1_038.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 17, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Italian-crossbowmen-and-Scrapoli-186
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 17, 2011, 08:05:37 PM
I do like TAG stuff .....................

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 20, 2011, 03:26:53 AM
Not really related to Empire, but I just saw this figure, have no use for it, but just really want to paint it...

http://www.fantization.com/jabberwock-pathfinderx1fig.aspx

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on October 20, 2011, 10:26:38 AM
Magnificent miniature, Reaper do some real gems thats for sure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on October 21, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
Magnificent miniature, Reaper do some real gems thats for sure.

They definitely do.  They're my go-to company for character models.  Great models, and much cheaper than GW's.  The search feature on their site is awesome (and necessary, their range is huge!).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 21, 2011, 10:26:02 PM
Yes, I think their search function/database is excellent. The local store has a huge wall of Reaper figures. But there's no real order to them, so any time I want to look for a figure, I have to spend an hour searching. In the case of my trip there this week, they didn't have either of the figures I was looking for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on October 24, 2011, 04:02:02 PM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Italian-crossbowmen-and-Scrapoli-186

Liking those swordsmen a lot, think I know where my next batch is coming from
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 25, 2011, 03:30:23 PM
Two of those 4 swordsmen's shield's aren't round.

(GP ... aren't you the observant one today.)

Yep, but even my conscience doesn't know why the other two shields are as they're shown.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Hades on October 26, 2011, 03:47:21 AM
Many historical bucklers have quite funky shapes, you can see very similar bucklers in Achille Marozzo's Opera Nova, for instance:

http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Opera_Nova_(Achille_Marozzo) (http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Opera_Nova_(Achille_Marozzo))

(Images 15, 16, 19, 20, 22).

I think Paulus Kal takes the cake for odd bucklers, though:

http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Paulus_Kal#Sword_and_Buckler (http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Paulus_Kal#Sword_and_Buckler)

(You may need to click "Show" to open the Sword and Buckler section). 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 26, 2011, 08:01:10 PM
Interestin stuff, thanks for posting! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 01, 2011, 10:54:05 AM
Couple of new things I picked up from Northstar.

(http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/images/MCF001.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/images/MCF010.jpg)

More pics and info here.

http://www.crusaderpublishing.com/



and then these may be a bit out, but I quite like the look of the sergeants:


(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img4056.jpg)

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img4050.jpg)

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/img4069.jpg)


more info here ................

http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=123&page=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2011, 01:35:02 PM


Ha! I was going to send you a link to the Copplestone Louis XIV range since you liked those ones. It seems it's the same range, Northstar bought them.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on November 08, 2011, 02:06:29 PM
Can somebody tell me from which boxset these guys here are made?

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN24.jpg (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN24.jpg)

I know they are perry but I can΄t find the box that has the models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on November 08, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
I'm just gonna say "They're metal go away Fandir" and leave it at that. I may be right or wrong, but still, go away Fandir!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on November 08, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
But where is away? Your place?



And just to mock you some more

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN27.jpg (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/fn/FN27.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 09, 2011, 11:00:43 AM
These - are the metals

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_28_54&products_id=1894

Not far off these plastics - if you could find some lance arms .........

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=1990
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 10, 2011, 10:31:28 PM
Have we already discussed these?

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383350_301134896582086_218634441498799_1166657_210693519_n.jpg)

I saw the pic on Northstar and they are: 

New plastic Teutonic Knights coming to North Star soon from Fireforge Games.


http://www.fireforge-games.com/

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=96:teutonic-knights-sculpting&Itemid=477#itemCommentsAnchor

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/96/parts%20compo%2024052011.jpg)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/96/wip12052011%20assemblies%20b.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 11, 2011, 12:55:50 AM
We discussed them about a month or so ago, though they were still in sculpting at that time.  Does it say when they will be released?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on November 11, 2011, 03:38:27 AM
Its nice to have the photos posted though.  The old link didn't work on my home computer.  Thanks.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 11, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
They are looking very nice, super alternatives to rubbish empire knights
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 11, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
Interesting, two chaos knights and two bretonnian knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 11, 2011, 01:11:25 PM
I've probably mentioned before that I like Black Tree Design as a GW substitute.
They don't offer a great deal of Renaissancy-looking 'Empire' people, but their Helsinians - and to some extent their Men of Averaign - do have some useable  models for Empire, not to mention the Ackland Accessory line for terrain/building pieces.
They have the same chunky, cartoonish look of Citadel models and the same 'heroic 28 mm' scale and rank up really well, especially with older Citadel models, whose look I happen to prefer over the newer, more Rackham-esque ones.
If I have a choice between $ 2.01 per plastic Bret Man-at-Arms or $ 1.78 per metal Man of Averaign, BTD wins.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on November 11, 2011, 02:02:31 PM
They are looking very nice, super alternatives to rubbish empire knights

Even better, they look like knights to be used in those medieval games you all cherish and love so much.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 11, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
Exactly. Like proper knights on horses that are a sensible size with armour they could actually carry  :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on November 11, 2011, 04:04:59 PM
 :::cheers:::

These look awesome...any idea of price?  I'm not seeing details in the links posted above.

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on November 11, 2011, 04:16:03 PM
Exactly. Like proper knights on horses that are a sensible size with armour they could actually carry  :dry:

Except this forum has not medieval after the last dot...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 11, 2011, 05:14:09 PM
So.

If in the fluff they said they were super magical όber horses then you might have a point, they even say they aren't as good as French, sorry Bretonian horses and they only carry cloth barding :p

Also, the empire horses are rubbish and you know it :p
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 11, 2011, 06:23:14 PM
Except this forum has not medieval after the last dot...

You are quite right for a change  :engel: - after the last dot it has  "COM"

I've probably mentioned before that I like Black Tree Design as a GW substitute.

I have spent money with BTD - their delivery schedules are awful, but I do think they are good value, and I always buy as a Premium member when they are offering sales discounts.
I have some of their Helsinian pikemen that do look very Bretonnian - i picked them up as a spot buy somewhere without knowing at the time where they were from - I think Donnachaidh identified them.
Most of my purchases have been from the historical side, but I have bought a few fantasy Saracens this year.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on November 11, 2011, 06:52:13 PM
Also, the empire horses are rubbish and you know it :p

You are so caught up in your GW hate that you mistake old ugly models with realism.

No biggie, when the new horses arrive from GW, it will set your GW on track.

And you know it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 12, 2011, 07:56:45 AM
Most of my purchases have been from the historical side, but I have bought a few fantasy Saracens this year.

Were they Black tree fantasy saracens?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 12, 2011, 08:09:05 AM
Quote

No biggie, when the new horses arrive from GW, it will set your GW on track.

And you know it.

But when, dammit, when? More likely to see chaos dwarves before Empire Knights!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 12, 2011, 08:16:58 AM
Had a poke around in the Black tree catalogue and found the Saracens, some interesting bits in there, would want it all but definitely there are some elements that are worthy of collecting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 12, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
Currently using BTD Halflings and a Dwarf as Free Company.
It's true that BTD and fast shipping sometimes aren't in the same sentence, if you're like most gamers/collectors, you're not likely to suffer from a lack of things to paint anyway......
Another good line are Mirliton/Grenadier Umani (Humans...), they're a hair skinnier than GW, but still fit in well, and have exactly the late medieval/early Renaissance look I'm after.
I've always liked Grenadier models and while ordering from Italy is kind of expensive, I can't help but indulge every now and again.
Imho, their Dwarves, Undead and Wood Elves are easily among the best ever made.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 12, 2011, 04:52:43 PM
Were they Black tree fantasy saracens?

Yep - I have the makings of an Arabian Andalusian/Berbers/Moors army that I got mainly for WAB El Cid, but then I felt the need for a few elements to enable me to use it for Fantasy if I wanted so some Saracens with BIG wepaons for Greatswords/Halberdiers, and a few flying carpets ..........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 14, 2011, 07:12:33 AM
That is exactly the kind of Caliphate army that floats my Dhow as well.
Ancient Caliphate list meets 'Arabian nights'.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 17, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
There's so many pages in here I can't look through the whole lot so I figured I'd just ask and hope someone has something in mind.

I want to build a spears regiment for my army, but I don't want them to look state-troopish. I want them to look like woodsmen. Reasonably wild woodsmen, though preferably clothed  :-P. I don't want them to look like they're of another time period or anything, but maybe something with celtic flavour or fairly generic woodsman feel will do. Ok, it's hard to explain but hopefully you have the gist.

Now the tough part. I'd prefer a plastic kit so they are cheap cheap cheap too! The more in there the merrier, but even if it's 20, that works cos you can double to 40 and be fine. Anywho, any ideas would be much appreciated. I'm not too worried about what weapons they have as I can always convert them to spears.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 17, 2011, 09:16:07 PM
Given you are in the US, I would probably look at the Wargames Factory Saxons and Vikings - there are two sorts  - basically armoured and unarmoured.
The bodies sprues are actually the same whether you get Saxons or Vikings - you will notice the heads are on the weapons sprues.

The only reservation might be the 'spears' and the arm positions - some of the weapons are more like javelins, and the arms are in the throwing pose.
The good bit (?) is that they are open hands and you can stick the weapon of choice.
However there aren't enough spears possibly so maybe buy/use some of the steel spears a lot of companies sell.

Saxon Weapons Sprue
(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/saxon-sprue.jpg)

Viking Weapons Sprue
(http://www.wargamesfactory.com/Images/vikings_images01.jpg)


The main store page.
http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/hammer-of-the-gods

The other options are Gripping Beast who also do Vikings and Saxons in plastics, but again the weapons mix will nee you to get extra spears - and then Perrys War of the Roses and Mercenaries sets but they tend to have a lot of bows, and halberds/polearms rather than spears.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 18, 2011, 07:03:06 PM
Midaski, I think you got it first time! I love these guys. And the price is hard to argue with. The spears shouldn't be a problem. I have some brass rod and have tried it before one time. If need be, I can make it work. Now that I see these guys, I'm tempted to get one box of unarmoured for my spears and maybe the huskarls to use as swordsmen (axemen)...

Those WSS horsemen look like they could be converted to pistoliers pretty easy too... I wonder...

Does the scale pretty much work out? I'm not super worried about a little difference, just maybe not LoTR different...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 19, 2011, 10:42:52 AM

They're very close - maybe a touch skinnier.

The main difference will be weapon size if you don't use all the brass rod spears. GW swords/axes are heroic, whereas all the stuff I linked to have pretty accurately scaled weapons.

I made a few brass rod attempts, but now use it only for banners or jail cell bars  :icon_wink:   getting a set of 40/50 for £5.00 already tipped neatly is saving so much hassle in my opinion.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 19, 2011, 12:44:36 PM
The present Empire knights look just like late 15th/early 16th century knights/heavy cavalry in full plate armour, with a sprinkling of fantasy to them. They wear armour that could have been worn in an army of the period.

The knights in those pics looks ok, for bleeding 12/13th century knights and for bretonnian Knights of the Realm. They are not Empireish in ANY way!  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 19, 2011, 12:57:08 PM
Late 15th/early 16th century not Renaissance enough for ya?
Puzzling.
Be that as it may, I like to view my Empire in a more late Medieval/early Renaissance light and have absolutely no problem with mixing in some more Middle Ages type troops.
Perfectly plausible that some of the more traditional (or more backwards) areas of such a large realm wouldn't always sport the latest attire currently en vogue in Altdorf.....
Heck, there are plenty of reports written by French soldiers on campaign in Russia and French as well as British soldiers on campaign in Spain that they felt transported back in time to the Middle Ages in those places.
This was during the Napoleonic wars........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on November 20, 2011, 07:15:39 AM
Any more news on the mantic humans?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 20, 2011, 11:01:59 PM
An excellent quote from the SOE in Albania says they felt like they parachuted into the 14th century...

Anyway, further east in Europe it was common to see knights still wearing crusader armour in the 16th century and 15th century German knights were poor landsmen wearing handed down armour from the previous century.

I have no problem in seeing knights from a poorer province in out of date armour
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2011, 10:03:58 AM
Anyway, further east in Europe it was common to see knights still wearing crusader armour in the 16th century and 15th century German knights were poor landsmen wearing handed down armour from the previous century.


That sort of thing still happens today ...... I mean go to Yorkshire and you see lots of stuff London and the South East of England gave up using last century .............   :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Prince Nuada on November 21, 2011, 11:51:53 AM
www.bitzbox.co.uk (http://www.bitzbox.co.uk) - this is my favourite!

www.bitzbarn.com (http://www.bitzbarn.com)

www.modelbits.co.uk (http://www.modelbits.co.uk)

www.maxmini.eu (http://www.maxmini.eu)

www.mrdandy.com (http://www.mrdandy.com)

www.kromlech.eu (http://www.kromlech.eu)

www.stores.ebay.com/Blood-and-Skulls-Industry?_rdc=1 (http://www.stores.ebay.com/Blood-and-Skulls-Industry?_rdc=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 21, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
Anyway, further east in Europe it was common to see knights still wearing crusader armour in the 16th century and 15th century German knights were poor landsmen wearing handed down armour from the previous century.


That sort of thing still happens today ...... I mean go to Yorkshire and you see lots of stuff London and the South East of England gave up using last century .............   :engel:

Yeah

Civility, politeness, manners, good sense, honesty...washing, eating with your mouth closed...  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 21, 2011, 03:07:41 PM
That sort of thing still happens today ...... I mean go to Yorkshire and you see lots of stuff London and the South East of England gave up using last century .............   :engel:

Yeah

Civility, politeness, manners, good sense, honesty...washing, eating with your mouth closed...  :biggriin:

Win.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2011, 03:59:53 PM
Yeah - Uryens    :eusa_clap:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 21, 2011, 06:31:39 PM
I have no idea about UK cultural geography, but that still made me laugh.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 21, 2011, 07:37:05 PM
It was a great reply and highlighted qualities I would like to believe exist all over ....

............................ but then I am reminded of something called a "Leeds United Football Fan"  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 22, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
It was a great reply and highlighted qualities I would like to believe exist all over ....

............................ but then I am reminded of something called a "Leeds United Football Fan"  :engel:

Its ok, even LUFC fans think they are a blight on humanity...they are like the Millwall of the the North...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Prince Nuada on November 22, 2011, 12:12:52 PM
Woo! Manchester United!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 22, 2011, 12:32:06 PM
Foundry has released a greek mythology line (in addition to their greek heroes):

http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ancients/greek_-_mythology/?sector_id=

Again, not entirely impressed.  The sculpting is so-so on lots of them, and many of the paintjobs don't help, especially on the centaurs...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on November 22, 2011, 12:44:42 PM
When I was in England, I did like the north better - less crowded, friendlier, more nature, it seemed.
Looks like whenever they need a 'manly man' or 'down to earth' type character on British TV shows/movies, he or she is from Yorkshire or thereabouts.

Just for purposes of clarification:
'Traditional' and 'Backwards' aren't the same thing.
Traditional is voluntary, backwards is not.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 22, 2011, 01:40:23 PM
Foundry has released a greek mythology line (in addition to their greek heroes):

http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ancients/greek_-_mythology/?sector_id=

Again, not entirely impressed.  The sculpting is so-so on lots of them, and many of the paintjobs don't help, especially on the centaurs...

Yeah, I'm not terribly impressed either.

I don't know if you, or anyone else who may be interested, has noticed, but in tiny print on the main Foundry web page they have an announcement about their new fantasy website:

http://www.foundryfantasy.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 22, 2011, 02:10:01 PM
Slightly more realistic shipping costs...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on November 23, 2011, 01:29:32 AM
Not impressed by the Foundry Condottiere figures I've seen so far  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 23, 2011, 06:40:07 AM
Foundry are drifting by the wayside, I can't see Brian Ansell getting his asking price for the business any time soon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 23, 2011, 07:08:15 PM
Camel Cavalry.
Other than Gripping beast who else is out there offering something titillating for a chap putting together a list of Fantasy based Araby?
I am looking to build at least one unit of Camelry with minimum 8 models.
It's probably going to end up being two units with at least 8 models each, one with sword and shield and the other with spears.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Bildhofen on November 26, 2011, 06:38:06 PM
Here is some dromedarii, well not camels, but close

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=pro&pre=wld_act_rom_aux_603_000
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 26, 2011, 07:08:30 PM
Camels

Not got any of the Warlord ones, because I thought they looked a bit out of proportion to the riders - a bit thin.

I do have:

Black Tree in their historical Warriors of Islam range - decent size. My favourites of what I have bought and/or seen.

A&A do a variety - I think some in their Roman erange and others in their Palmyran - one sort has grooves on the camel to accept the matching rider legs, but it's fixable if you want to use your own riders.

Magister Militum do some - the unbarded ones are not good because the hump has no saddle, it's just a narrow dome, and the riders they supply look ridiculous perched on it.
They do have some fully barded ones that are much better ref: HO15 - Padre has some pictures up in his army reports I think.

I got some others from Northstar recently in a sale - an Italian company he was discontinuing because I got the impression they'd gone bust, but nothing special.










Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 27, 2011, 08:21:41 PM
Does anyone have any feedback on the Gripping Beast Camelry cav?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 27, 2011, 10:59:55 PM
I included one in a size comparison picture years ago:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/imag/Horses5b.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 28, 2011, 07:12:06 AM
They have some newer Camels with riders now as well in their range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 28, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
A bunch more empire stand-in stuff coming from Ratnik via Lead Adventure:

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-21.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-20.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-22.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-23.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-24.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-25.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-26.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-27.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-30.jpg)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-31.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on November 28, 2011, 05:23:47 PM
My bank balance has started to cry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on November 28, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
Oh my... my pants... and wallet!  :Ohmy:

I have one of their minis, Dule Griet, and they are smashing! Them landsknechts, so sweet. And I love them priests. Thing is they would work in 40K too...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 28, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
Those are some mighty good looking miniatures there! :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on November 28, 2011, 07:18:49 PM
Those warrior priests are great!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 28, 2011, 08:29:23 PM
The halberdiers are a bit special, liking them a lot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on November 28, 2011, 10:07:32 PM
Camel Cavalry.

I am looking to build at least one unit of Camelry with minimum 8 models. It's probably going to end up being two units with at least 8 models each, one with sword and shield and the other with spears.

My Cam Cav in battle in during the A3 campaign:

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/A3Battle5Pic4.jpg)

If you wanna see my Arabyan army on parade, then see the old Crisis in Marienburg post - http://www.marienburgcampaign.com/forum/index.php?topic=414.0

My camelry are Black Tree Designs, from their Feudal range. Go to 'Fuedal', then go to 'Warriors of Islam', and you should be ok from there. I love them.

Link which may work for you - http://www.blacktreedesign.com/uk/home.php?cat=2486
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 29, 2011, 03:47:58 PM
Padre, they do indeed look lovely, nice job mate. :icon_cool:

I have received my first three Black tree camel cavalry.  They came with a coiled length of wire that they obviously want me to make into three spears, is that how they came for you Padre ?

Also, Midaski, I ordered (and paid for) them (and a bunch of other models as well) last Thursday night and they all arrived in the post on Monday.
Why are you bleating about Black trees delivery service?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 29, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=148

These are £12 quid for two and the Black tree are currently cheaper than £9 quid for three.
Bit of a no brainer price wise but the GB camels do look nice.

Just ordered 9 more Black Tree camels, most of the spear options show the riders are in light armour. Very nice.

Padre, where did you get your Camel mounted musician ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on November 29, 2011, 04:18:41 PM
Eunuchs ?

Anybody know where to find nice looking Eunuch models.?

I want a unit of Eunuchs in my Caliphate army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 29, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Padre, where did you get your Camel mounted musician ?
I believe it was possibly a Magister Militum one - I asked the same question.

http://www.navigatorminiatures.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=4&P_ID=1490&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=235

However they do not have a picture so not certain - it was designed for a horse so it may not be a good fit.

OR

...... it could be a Perry one - from their Crusades Muslim range.

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KG7lMxko5Ca5dk.&w=540&h=315.514285714&f=jpg&q=95&hash=528682e6adab8972b278bc3829ed9baa)

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_33_53


Also - Have you looked at the Artizan Moors?








Eunuchs ?

Anybody know where to find nice looking Eunuch models.?

I want a unit of Eunuchs in my Caliphate army.

Apart form the obvious  :engel: ...... and I assume you will not be looking for naked models, what 'look' are you after?

Big fat bald guys like the Kislev Bear Tamer?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on November 29, 2011, 06:12:51 PM

Also, Midaski, I ordered (and paid for) them (and a bunch of other models as well) last Thursday night and they all arrived in the post on Monday.
Why are you bleating about Black trees delivery service?

The last time I order from them (about 2 years ago) it took 6 months for them to deliver.  The complaints have died down as of late, so maybe they've gotten things in order now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 29, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
I have received my first three Black tree camel cavalry.  They came with a coiled length of wire that they obviously want me to make into three spears, is that how they came for you Padre ?

Also, Midaski, I ordered (and paid for) them (and a bunch of other models as well) last Thursday night and they all arrived in the post on Monday.
Why are you bleating about Black trees delivery service?

The coiled wire is for you to make spears - they are still a bit 'old school'  :engel:

As to the delivery - I ordered 21 packs of Fantasy Saracens on the 13th August

First delivery sometime late in September had just 6 packs -

Second delivery at the end of October had 13 packs

Still waiting for the last 2 packs to arrive and it's 28th November ...........
They did actually send me a couple of free packs with the second delivery because of the delay

I think it depends on the range - they have an address in Cornwall, and they also have a tie-in with Grendel in Scotland, and they have the main accounting base in Texas.
I think Grendel spin the old Harlequin stuff for them - where the other ranges are made I am not sure.

 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on November 30, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
I have received my first three Black tree camel cavalry.  They came with a coiled length of wire that they obviously want me to make into three spears, is that how they came for you Padre ?

I can't remember what they came with. I used brass rod bought from my local model shop (as I did with my pikemen too).

And yeah, the musician is from the Perry musician set, Midaski. I did not know it was, until I saw that pic of all the three figures that came in my set. (I bought them at a convention when I wasn't paying attention. Note to self - 'At convention pay attention!')  I loved that set, and posed all the models in several campaign photo stories.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 01, 2011, 06:59:14 AM
I think it depends on the range - they have an address in Cornwall, and they also have a tie-in with Grendel in Scotland, and they have the main accounting base in Texas.

The Cornish address is in Marazion which is very close to St Michaels mount, a few minutes out of Penzance along the beach front. I drove by once when i was on holiday but it was closed.
The accounting base in Texas is probably through the wife, she's a yank, nice lady with a big ole booty on her, a few years back at Salute, Black-tree were next to the Bolt Action Miniature stand where my mates were working and during pack up the 'big booty' bent over and knocked one of their expensive perspex display cylinders over, shattering it into a squillion bits. No save allowed. O_o

For spears I pay the extra and get the Perry metal spears, very sharp but straight as a dime.

I have a confession to make, after I asked the question about the Camelry drummer I then wandered off to dredge up my Caliphate 28mm models and I found a bunch of camel cavalry already there I had forgotten about and in it was the very same Perry model still in the blister,  :icon_rolleyes: oh dear... 

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on December 02, 2011, 07:18:24 AM
Lead Adventure is my second favorite miniature company - they simply rock.

Thanks for the pics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on December 02, 2011, 01:36:54 PM
Brass wire for spear shafts is "Old School' in the same way that a tree trunk for a spear shaft is 'Noo Skool'..........
Currently painting some plastic guys from the Weapons & Warriors series of toy boxes as City Guard (= Halberdiers).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on December 02, 2011, 02:38:49 PM
Lead Adventure is my second favorite miniature company - they simply rock.

Thanks for the pics.

Agree completely...wonderful sculpts...and Ratnik in particular is one of my favorites...the dwarfs he has been previewing the last week or so over on LAF are just wonderful!

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 02, 2011, 08:03:47 PM

My Cam Cav in battle in during the A3 campaign:

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/A3Battle5Pic4.jpg)


What was the A3 Campaign ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on December 03, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
Hmmm that Ratnik/LAF Archbishop is bit brilliant.


Can anyone recommend any good suppliers/ranges of wire trees? They are quite expensive for what they are, so I'd like any advice on offer before purchasing. Thanks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 03, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/regiments/renaissance/any/condottiere_german_armoured_landsknecht_pikemen_regiment_brren518/?sector_id=

Can't tell if the figures are any good. Wish they showed them unpainted.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 03, 2011, 08:55:29 PM
I was looking at some of that stuff, and from what I could see, the landsknechts don't look like they are any nicer than the artizan ones, and at a higher cost...

24 artizan pikemen unit - 24.60 gbp
16 foundry pikemen unit - 25GBP (UK cost - higher for everyone else)

That's without any sort of sales...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 04, 2011, 12:11:25 AM
I agree.

Saw a comment on TMP that Foundry has pulled all the old Perry landsknecht sculpts. If so, that's a horrible shame -- they are beautiful figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 04, 2011, 02:23:06 AM
Why would they do that?  Do they have to pay royalties to the Perrys to sell their sculpts or something? 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 04, 2011, 02:54:36 AM
I have absolutely no idea. I haven't even personally verified that its true (yet.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 04, 2011, 04:06:23 AM
Yeah, its hard to see why a company would re-make a historical line unless they are going to make it arguably better.  It's not like in fantasy where fluff and settings change and evolve with time...

On the plus side, its nice to see their fantasy ranges expanding.  I'm not sold on lots of it, but at least its cool to see the options available.  I am a sucker for their mercenary orcs and ogres though  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 04, 2011, 11:22:56 AM
I believe Foundry does have an agreement where they have to pay royalties to the Perries.

Even so, replacing all those perfect sculpts with these new amateurish ones is an insult. I bought the Foundry Condotierre book and it's full of pics of the new ones that make me cringe every time I see them. Especially when they show some of the Perry ones on the same page. The puffy sleeve parts look like the conversions of someone who's new to greenstuff. 

The Artizan ones are vastly superior if you want to buy historical landsknechts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 04, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
Indeed, Artizan is better for the historicals.

If you want fantasy ones, then the LAF halberds are far superior too!  Just somewhat more pricey...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on December 04, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
What was the A3 Campaign ?

Animosity 3, link = http://animositycampaigns.com/forum/ , or more specifically = http://animositycampaigns.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=44&sid=9f2bfe1dbae4b71c4656f6afb317717b
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on December 05, 2011, 02:55:51 AM
....then the LAF halberds are far superior too!  Just somewhat more pricey...

They are wonderful...but your right...they don't give them away do they!  :eusa_wall:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 05, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
Just go with goblins...  :icon_wink:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/empire/ggroup02.jpg)

Find them here:
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20posts)

And for a look at the original greens:
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/goblin%20core%20greens (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/search/label/goblin%20core%20greens)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 05, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
I had a wander around Foundry on Saturday whilst in Nottingham.
I did buy some blisters from their 'bargain bins' but even in the middle of all those racks of minis I wasn't over excited.

I too like Artizan very much, but I am also a TAG fan. I was looking for some weapons a whie back and Fr1day recommended them for that, and whilst I was ordering I added a couple of blisters of their Catholic and Protestant commands, and they really are nice.
Their images do not do the actual models justice either.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 05, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
Minor conversion to the bear -- get rid of the overtly chaos-y stuff, maybe some spike removal. Convert or replace the rider. I think its got a lot of potential for Empire or Kislev.

http://banelegions.maelstromgames.co.uk/?tag=bnl-020

 :-D

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2011, 03:06:07 AM
A solution to all those shoeless Empire soldiers! (http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/civilian-gallery.html) (Fourth photo from the top.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 07, 2011, 03:27:15 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uWUqoe_Otws/Tt0g26PZiYI/AAAAAAAAAHg/kOO55gZwLWU/s1600/Regulator+04.jpg)

Looks like they are on their way to Stirland already!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 07, 2011, 03:33:00 AM
Some great work on those figures! :icon_cool: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 07, 2011, 04:33:43 PM

It would appear Warlord Games have bought or taken over Immortal Miniatures.

Seems reasonable - both make plastics through Renedra - both have ancients.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 07, 2011, 05:35:33 PM
Looks like they are on their way to Stirland already!

LOL! Good call, didn't think of that.  :eusa_clap:




It would appear Warlord Games have bought or taken over Immortal Miniatures.

Seems reasonable - both make plastics through Renedra - both have ancients.

I just read that. I've heard a lot of grumbling about customer service from Immortal. If I understand correctly, I think the owner had other commitments that kept him away from the business. Maybe this will be good for everyone.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 07, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
Interesting.  I purchased a box of the Athenian Greeks that Immortal Miniatures has made and gave them as a gift.  They were quite good!

So far I've resisted purchasing some for myself, and hopefully Warlord will continue making them available.

And thanks for posting the info! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on December 07, 2011, 09:17:57 PM
I really hope this means plastic Persians soon, the Immortal miniatures guy was supposed to be working on these.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 08, 2011, 03:25:27 PM
With 40k coming back to WE lately what do you guys think about scibor minis?

http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1120#i/conversion_parts_2011/big/archangel_01.jpg (http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1120#i/conversion_parts_2011/big/archangel_01.jpg)

http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/angel_knight_01.jpg (http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/angel_knight_01.jpg)

And should the Taurus for Chaos Dwarves come.....this would be the Model I would use.

http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/war_bull_painted_01.jpg (http://sciborminiatures.com/pow.php?absol=1&co=i/2011/big/war_bull_painted_01.jpg)


 :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 08, 2011, 05:46:21 PM
My own personal opinion...

I think his 40k stuff takes the worst of GW 40k and blows cranks it up on steroids making it exceptionally horrible.

Look at the guy in the first link. As soon as he lifts his arms up he's going to crush his own head between those ridiculous shoulder pads. And is that a winged turtle on his chest? There are so many stacked layers of stuff on top of stuff on top of stuff that it's a compositional clutter.

A lot of the fantasy stuff, on the other hand, is pretty good. The dwarfs, the plague snail thing, men at arms, etc. Some of it's got some real character.

That's all opinion. I know I'm not really allowed to have an opinion (see also: inbred hillbilly halflings,) but you asked.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 08, 2011, 09:39:05 PM
Yep, that chest armor on the first one looks over done.

And the guy resting on his sheild, uh boy, if he's suppose to be a Space Marine, then he'd be holding his shield.

At first glance the composition does seem a bit busy, but maybe it just takes some getting adjusted to it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 09, 2011, 01:00:47 PM
The 40K stuff is beautifully sculpted, better than the GW 40K stuff and that is high praise indeed.

Edited as mild but unjustifiable personal attack

But that Scibor 40K stuff is superbly sculpted. That is beyond contestation. Love them or loathe them they are really well made indeed. I bet it isn't cheap.  :icon_eek: Thats the nature of quality though, it tends to come at a price.

The fantasy models are lovely too.
That Taurus is just awesome, what a powerful looking and scary beast, fantastic paint job abd photography too.
Both sets of Dwarves are very nice. I love the way they are heavy stylised so they stand aside as Scibor creations rather than a 'copy' of a well known generic option.
I'm a big fan of the Westwind Dwarves which have their own style but these Scibor options are very very nice, lovely sculpting.
Great work all round.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfgang aus Wien on December 09, 2011, 01:19:20 PM
C'mon, gents.
Armor and weaponry that is more likely to injure the owner than any opponent is part and parcel of the GW formula....
More recently, Reaper and Rackham have done some nice work in those areas also. 8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 10, 2011, 03:25:16 PM
More new figures from Pro Gloria

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/long-awaited-news-pre-view-for-second.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 10, 2011, 03:30:43 PM
More new figures from Pro Gloria

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/long-awaited-news-pre-view-for-second.html


I like the guys playing dice!

Unit filler.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 10, 2011, 04:21:21 PM

I like the guys playing dice!

Unit filler.


I like them all. I also think the hunting group could make a good unit filler -- put them behind a general on foot.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 11, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
I'm liking the peasants, very rustic simple and honest just as it should be, nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 11, 2011, 05:16:16 PM
Just found Four A miniatures today, their goblins are very nice, done by kev adams.

Catalog: http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm

Also, I found something for Rufus:

(http://www.fouraminiatures.com/USERIMAGES/100_2297.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on December 11, 2011, 07:31:28 PM
Cuttle fish cultists
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 11, 2011, 10:46:04 PM
Mind flayers
Excellent, long overdue.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 12, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
I like the squidheads!

They could be 40K inquisitorial psykers for the Ordo Xenos.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on December 12, 2011, 11:56:48 AM
Why not Zoidberg?
(http://newbadgerman.xomba.com/sites/xomba.com/files/dr_zoidberg.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 13, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
More new figures from Pro Gloria

http://progloriaminiatures.blogspot.com/2011/12/long-awaited-news-pre-view-for-second.html
These are outstanding!  Thanks for posting! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 16, 2011, 04:45:16 AM
Seemingly a new single mini from Warlord ...

http://store.warlordgames.com/lord-leven-covenanter-lord-general-7814-p.asp

I like it for possible use as an Imperial Noble for the Empire of Wolves list, and I've ordered one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 16, 2011, 02:13:01 PM
Very nice miniature.
The horse is particularly good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 16, 2011, 04:11:26 PM
Mantic should really find people to paint their minis better those look unpainted really good

(http://www.w6-tabletop.at/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mantic-zombies-2.jpg)

And Snotlings are always nice

(http://www.w6-tabletop.at/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Mantic-Games-Orclings-Small.jpg)

Mantic games Orklings.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 17, 2011, 10:13:39 PM
Those Undead are fantastic  :mrgreen: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 18, 2011, 01:04:09 AM
Those Undead are fantastic  :mrgreen: :::cheers:::

Mantic games undead - their zombies and skeletons specifically - are the best available, and the cost of them makes them astonishing.

Which is all the weirder for the fact that the rest of Mantics stuff is utterly dire.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Erik Von Karlson on December 18, 2011, 04:24:14 AM
New Perr WotR due to be out at the end of January

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/tipping_cart.jpg

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/open_sided_cart.jpg

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/labourers.jpg

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/casualties.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 18, 2011, 05:45:07 AM
New Perr WotR due to be out at the end of January

Love it all!

their zombies and skeletons specifically - are the best available, and the cost of them makes them astonishing.

I think those two kits are better than their GW equivalents.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gwyddyon on December 19, 2011, 02:27:49 AM
I may as well just have my paychecks deposited straight into the Perrys' account at this rate.  I also seem to be in danger of ordering more Perry carts, pack animals, and civilians than actual soldiers...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 20, 2011, 06:24:18 AM
Those Undead are fantastic  :mrgreen: :::cheers:::

Mantic games undead - their zombies and skeletons specifically - are the best available, and the cost of them makes them astonishing.

Which is all the weirder for the fact that the rest of Mantics stuff is utterly dire.

I'm not enamoured with their Elves but then I am yet to see any Elves I particularly like outside of the LotR range (and those are too small), difficult race to capture the essence of in a miniature.
I do like the Mantic chaos dwarves and their Orcs are very nice however the undead are indeed the pick of the bunch, they are sensational.

Those Perry casualties are excellent sculpts.
Love the horse but don't think much of the carts at all.  Wheels are nice but the carts are pretty average. Must wait to see the final product finished and painted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 20, 2011, 06:45:57 AM
Very sweet sculpts indeed!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 20, 2011, 01:07:41 PM
Perry Miniatures consistently produces excellent figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 20, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/tipping_cart.jpg

"Complete with three corpses."

Ha!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 21, 2011, 11:00:34 AM
Perry Miniatures consistently produces excellent figures.

25 years and couinting...  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on December 22, 2011, 07:26:34 AM
Still waiting for Mantic Humans....

Man I so want to get a huge 60 man unit of artizan pikes but I usually play at my local GW, since the nearest non-GW club is like 30 mins away (which I realise is not a long way for some people, but I live in the middle of a city and everything is close). 

I think I'll just wait till march or april when the next Empire book comes out and see if they put them back in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 22, 2011, 09:12:02 AM
Get some Artizan figures, stick em on the table at the GW store. If anyone complains tell them they are GW Dogs of War pikemen...I bet no one at the store will know what they really look like, and if they did they'd not say anything ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on December 22, 2011, 09:15:56 AM
Get some Artizan figures, stick em on the table at the GW store. If anyone complains tell them they are GW Dogs of War pikemen...I bet no one at the store will know what they really look like, and if they did they'd not say anything ;)

The guys working at my store are pretty sharp and they know me and my army pretty well.  Unfortunately this is not an option.  Plus you can't play pikemen at GW stores since there are no rules for them... Sigh.  Time to suck it up and drive 30 mins for my games.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 22, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
I think I'll just wait till march or april when the next Empire book comes out and see if they put them back in.
Has this been confirmed?

By the way, pikeman could be used as spears.  If somebody complains, they're being stupid.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on December 22, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
It's not confirmed but it's a fairly solid rumor that we're after Vampire counts.  So I figure if VC are in Jan/Feb then empire could well be in mar/april.  Anyway I'm kind of just hoping.


The other problem is that I don't want spears.  I already have 50 halberds and 50 swords.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 23, 2011, 07:45:26 AM
http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=21&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=95&vmcchk=1&Itemid=95

Have these been mentioned yet?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2011, 08:43:52 AM

Yeah - top of page 33 with a picture ...........

I'm waiting for a UK stockist and some discount.   :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 23, 2011, 08:57:11 AM
It is the one problem with this thread...35 pages in and I cant remember whats been posted  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2011, 09:33:13 AM
It is the one problem with this thread...35 pages in and I cant remember whats been posted  :unsure:

Amateur - just where is your dedication ...............  :engel:

Homework over Christmas is to revise and learn exactly what is on what page - test on New Year's Day

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 23, 2011, 09:40:24 AM
Tell you what, if you set the test, I'll sit it... :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2011, 11:03:23 AM
Tell you what, if you set the test, I'll sit it... :biggriin:

I'm glad I wasn't drunk when I tired to read that .......................  :engel:

Actually I am really looking forward to next year ................. WK's Dwarfs and Gobbo bodies on order  ........ those Teutonic Knights, .................... and Crusader have some new metal 'crusader' minis ............. Conquest Games Norman Infantry ......................... Wargames Factory Samurai, Ashigaru, and Cavalry ................ the SAGA expansion ....................... Lead Adventures landsknechts ......................Salute ......................  the Eurobash .........



Damn why can't Christmas be over with already .....................  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 25, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Won't be long before 'Salute' is on us again.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 25, 2011, 02:43:14 PM
It's not confirmed but it's a fairly solid rumor that we're after Vampire counts.  So I figure if VC are in Jan/Feb then empire could well be in mar/april.  Anyway I'm kind of just hoping.
This probably isn't the thread for this, but what happened to redoing Brets?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bedevere the Wise on December 25, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
Hello gentlemen.

I would like to pop in from the real life to bring your attention to cooperation between Warlord games, Empress miniatures and 4ground designs. These companies produced rather interesting sets concerning Anglo Zulu war. Couple of months ago, a new whole-diorama-in-a-box was announced depicting the defence of Rorke's Drift, containg two wooden models of buildings, lots of resin barricades and some British soldiers and Zulu warriors.
http://store.warlordgames.com/rorkes-drift-7561-p.asp
Using my knowledge of Santas suspicious interest in little children, basic photoshopping skills and shameless blackmail (and paying half of the cost) I have received the Horns of the Buffalo set for Christmas. If anyone is interested, I will post pictures of sprues of both main contestants.

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/Pavol_stuff/scan0002.jpg)
Imperial Redcoats

(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/Pavol_stuff/scan0001.jpg)
and Zulu impis

I will hapily provide other feedback if anyone is interested (though I am afraid I will not glue and paint it in near future. I mean the whole package weights slightly more than 7 kg. It is a lot of models)

Regards,

Bedevere
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on December 25, 2011, 10:18:14 PM
Hi people!
I have a question and it might be a bit off topic, but it's still close enough...

The question is...
Are there any good (and cheaper) alternatives for citadel static grass?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
Woodland Scenics
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on December 26, 2011, 11:00:10 PM
They are coincidentally also a cheaper alternative to Citadel Everything Else.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 29, 2011, 02:35:06 AM
I was considering picking up the foundry Condottiere book while it is half price before their clearance sale ends on Jan 3.

Does anyone know if its a standalone rulebook, or will I need another ruleset if I am to play games from it?

http://wargamesfoundry.com/books/wargames_rule_book/any/any/condottiere_the_dogs_of_war_fp024/?sector_id=
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 29, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
It's a standalone book, but it's not so well edited and it features a lot of their newer (crappy) figures which kind of ruins it for me as they make me cringe when I look at them and they're on almost every page.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 29, 2011, 11:47:01 AM
I must admit I bought the Compendium, and the Dallimore Painting (& Modelling) Books in their one-day-only sales before Christmas, when they were below half price and for what I paid they're ok.
The Compendium has some interesting stuff for £6.00  :biggriin:

I quite like the painting books as, although I will not be buying the "sets of 3" paints, there are a lot of stage by stage large pictures that show good details.

I have not been tempted by any of the Condottiere stuff yet and doubt I will be - the TAG Italian stuff looks much better IMO.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 29, 2011, 12:01:15 PM
I was thinking of giving a few of their palettes a try, mainly some of the different flesh tones.  I seem to get pretty good triads from GW colours.  I too got the compendium and painting books  :blush:

Is the background information useful in the condottiere book?  I dont want any of the models, but I thought it might be of use for empire/DoW background ideas and such.  Is it worth the $25 at half price?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 29, 2011, 12:07:11 PM
I'd have thought you'd do better with an Osprey book.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 30, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
Osprey are fabulous, but... you would need  a few of them and they are for keeps, because they are not cheap. For quality though, unsurpassed...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on December 30, 2011, 06:11:55 PM


Is the background information useful in the condottiere book?  I dont want any of the models, but I thought it might be of use for empire/DoW background ideas and such.  Is it worth the $25 at half price?

*pimps the Tilea project, link in sig*  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 30, 2011, 07:10:54 PM


Is the background information useful in the condottiere book?  I dont want any of the models, but I thought it might be of use for empire/DoW background ideas and such.  Is it worth the $25 at half price?

*pimps the Tilea project, link in sig*  :biggriin:

Your link is broken... domain expired  :engel:

The Osprey books are pretty cool.  I managed to download a large amount of them a while ago, had a perusal through some...  not enough time to read them all.  If anyone is interested in any of them...  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 30, 2011, 08:39:26 PM
Link works for me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 30, 2011, 10:10:15 PM
More info on ............

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383350_301134896582086_218634441498799_1166657_210693519_n.jpg)


(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/389955_334081299954112_218634441498799_1264788_844689919_n.jpg)


This set will allow you to build 12 knights and their horses. Here is the details:

Horses - Horse bodies are split in two parts. There are two different left sides and two different right sides that are totally mixable with each other to obtain different poses. Three different heads and two tails, compatible with every horse body version, complete the horse sections. Without considering the tails, you'll be able to build 12 totally different horses.

Knight Heads - 10 different heads in two sections for a total of 20 heads in the set, of which 12 are with "decorated helmets" and 8 "not decorated". Some of the "decorated helmets" types were sculpted with easy cut off option in mind for people wanting to build only not "decorated" ones.

Knight Bodies and Cloaks - 4 different knight bodies and 4 different cloaks for a total of 12 bodies and cloaks in the set. Cloaks are not attached to the bodies, so you can build knights without them too.

Weapons - 4 different right arms armed with spears, 2 with swords, 1 axe, 1 mace and 1 morning star. Three weapon sections for a total of 12 spears, 6 swords, 3 axes, 3 maces and 3 morning star in the set.

Shields - 3 different heater shields with left arms attached and 3 different heater shields with left arms not attached. There are three shield sections for a total of 18 heater shields in the box.

Various - Cross standard, right arm with a horn (musician), 4 different sculpted standards/flags and several bits of rectangular plate pieces as a reinforced armour option to shoulders.

Looks like the UK retail will be £20.00

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 30, 2011, 11:41:16 PM
Looks like a very good alternative for Bretonnians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on December 30, 2011, 11:55:07 PM
I'm thinking of using them as cavaliers in my Dogs of War army, representing knights from the border princes area, or maybe down-on-their-luck Brettonian knights.  They look really nice, and pretty dang good price point.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 31, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Nice looking knights!  Any idea on a release date?

I would probably wait for the perry knights to be released though  :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 31, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
From the picture it looks like you can make two chaos knights and two Bretonnian knights, with that kind of variation the only hindrance in getting good sales will be the retail price.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 31, 2011, 10:57:08 AM
You get 3 sprues per box JN - so 12 knights for your £20.00 and that may be 10% lower from some of the distributors.
12 seems to be the common number in non-GW plastic cavalry and Warlord Games are at £18.00 a box, along with Conquest Games Normans, and Wargames Factory at £16.50 currently, so the price has probably been set to be maintained for all of 2012.

They are expected to be in the UK end of January - you could pre-order from Italy, but ...................... it's Italy.  :engel:

I too am waiting for the Perry WotR ones, but I suspect they will have a different 'feel/look' so there will be room for both - probably   :closed-eyes:


Hell who am I kidding - we all know I will get both  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 31, 2011, 03:50:11 PM
Bestest halfling wizard ever
(http://www.hfmodeling.com/photos/news/7047/_connor.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 31, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
Maybe for Dystopian Wars and the Steam Punk period of Victorian times but not for the medieval period I'm afraid.
Nice sculpting though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Prince Nuada on December 31, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
He looks like one of the doctors (Dr Who).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on December 31, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
Thats a good point, it doesn't hurt the figure at all that it has an immaculate quality paint job.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on December 31, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
Nonsense, plop on a disproportionately huge feathered hat and you have yourself an imperial halfling.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 02, 2012, 09:00:45 PM
Nonsense, plop on a disproportionately huge feathered hat and you have yourself an imperial halfling.
Better yet hang it off his penny farthing Lol
 :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Wolfsgaum on January 03, 2012, 01:54:03 AM
I don't know. He looks right at home in Middle Earth.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 03, 2012, 09:39:56 AM
It's a nice sculpt and the painting is stellar but why does it have a lemon hanging off its belt?
And why is it wearing a late style embroidered flat cap?
Flat caps were almost universally worn in the 19th century by working class men throughout Britain and Ireland, and versions in finer cloth were also considered to be 'suitable casual countryside wear' for upper-class English men (hence the contemporary alternative name golf cap).
Flat caps were worn by fashionable young men in the 1920s.
Hence my reason for pointing to the steam punk and dystopian war genre.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 04, 2012, 10:51:14 PM
Osprey are fabulous, but... you would need  a few of them and they are for keeps, because they are not cheap. For quality though, unsurpassed...
I buy Osprey used.  There are used book stores, and particularly those that specialize in selling military ones, the Osprey books can be found for half the retail price, and usually in very good shape often almost new.

- - - - - - - -

By the way ... who makes the halfling?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on January 05, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
Hello gentlemen.

I would like to pop in from the real life to bring your attention to cooperation between Warlord games, Empress miniatures and 4ground designs. These companies produced rather interesting sets concerning Anglo Zulu war. Couple of months ago, a new whole-diorama-in-a-box was announced depicting the defence of Rorke's Drift, containg two wooden models of buildings, lots of resin barricades and some British soldiers and Zulu warriors.
http://store.warlordgames.com/rorkes-drift-7561-p.asp...

The MDF buildings are fantastic. The quality of the production and the attention to detail is the best I have seen for laser cut MDF to date.

You can buy them from their website www.4ground.co.uk/ (http://www.4ground.co.uk/)

I have almost finished the barn, but WIP pictures of the farmhouse and the walls I took to show a mate of mine the scale of them...
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/RD_02.jpg)
With Perry Napoleonic British

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/RD_01.jpg)
Farmhouse interior - Coppleston Future Wars rebels assaulted by Foundry Street Violence SWAT team.

Talking to them, the next product released will be timber framed Tudor houses. I saw the prototypes last year of the first one which he had scaled for 15mm, 20mm, and 28mm.

I am very much looking forward to what they will be producing in the future.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 05, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
I like how that building complex can be used for different eras. :icon_cool:

The set of buildings, walls, and extras looks to be about $169, without the Warlord Games figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 06, 2012, 12:35:40 PM
Where are the skulz?  I'm suffering from skulz deprivation Lol  :icon_mrgreen:

Seriously, very nice indeed, thanks for posting, I am looking forward to seeing what they come out with for an older period. I'd be up for buying some of that  :icon_wink:.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 06, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
Where are the skulz?  I'm suffering from skulz deprivation Lol  :icon_mrgreen:

 :eusa_clap:

I hear Queen Victoria was big on the blood sacrifices & sat on a skull throne.


Talking to them, the next product released will be timber framed Tudor houses. I saw the prototypes last year of the first one which he had scaled for 15mm, 20mm, and 28mm.

Looking forward to that as well!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 06, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Foundry has their new ruleset "Tribes of Legend" up for preorder.  Anyone hear whether the game will be entertaining at all?

http://wargamesfoundry.com/books/wargames_rule_book/any/any/tribes_of_legend_fp026/

I might consider it next time they decide to list it at 50% off  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on January 08, 2012, 08:36:52 PM
Talking to them, the next product released will be timber framed Tudor houses. I saw the prototypes last year of the first one which he had scaled for 15mm, 20mm, and 28mm.

Looking forward to that as well!

Just had a look on their website and they are up..!
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/ceddefa6-6afc-4e7e-88ef-ea30f6e7469e_lightboxLarge.jpg)
£10 each and 5 variations
www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=262 (http://www.4ground.co.uk/Default.aspx?page=262)

They look to have interiors as well
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/594ec4ac-fd9a-41d5-b7e9-94dce7edd5da_lightboxLarge.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 09, 2012, 04:33:51 AM
Very nice, and a good price too if it's not a hassle to get them in the US.

My only concern is that the timber bits will be flush with the stucco infill. The roof tiles are also a bit flat compared to resin buildings, but I could probably live with that and/or cover the roof with my own 3d tiles/shingles/shakes/thatch/whatever.


edit: Assuming that I order more than £30 worth of stuff, it's £10 shipping. I'd probably get the set of 5, so that might not be too bad. Maybe get a couple guys to place an order together. UK shipping is sweet, as anything over £30 is free.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 09, 2012, 08:49:52 AM
If folk have the ability to look after them and keep them in nice condition then £10 a pop is cheap for that kind of visual quality
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on January 09, 2012, 10:59:16 AM
My only concern is that the timber bits will be flush with the stucco infill. The roof tiles are also a bit flat compared to resin buildings, but I could probably live with that and/or cover the roof with my own 3d tiles/shingles/shakes/thatch/whatever.

I have some "teddy bear" fir to try a thatched roof with, but I have not gotten round to it yet.

I want to try a pantiled roof, but the only decent plastic card pantiles I have found are 00 scale. Some not as nice O scale ones are availablewhich I may turn to.

The roof tiles are a bit like paving stones. They are usable, but you can do better with your own tiles or thatch

The wooden beams (if like Rorkes Drift) are very well delimited so they do not just blend in to the rendered walls. The exposed brick and wood is etched well, and the border is etched deep. There is certainly enough depthl to enable dry brushing. to pick out the detail.

They also got a pot of "render" on the site. I was looking at DIY products to add render to the walls myself ut I may give this a go - after I pay the vets bills
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 09, 2012, 02:50:53 PM
I have some "teddy bear" fir to try a thatched roof with, but I have not gotten round to it yet.

I want to try a pantiled roof, but the only decent plastic card pantiles I have found are 00 scale. Some not as nice O scale ones are availablewhich I may turn to.


I've been wanting to try the teddy bear fur trick. I did have pretty good luck with using some putty and sculpting some thatch.

http://zerotwentythree.blogspot.com/2011/10/thatching.html

My first thought, though, is simple shingles/shakes made from thin card scavenged from a cereal or cracker box.


As far as their "render," you might also check an art.craft store for  textured acrylic gels. Sounds like the same thing.

http://www.goldenpaints.com/products/medsadds/gels/gels.php

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 09, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
Bestest halfling wizard ever
http://www.hfmodeling.com/photos/news/7047/_connor.jpg (http://www.hfmodeling.com/photos/news/7047/_connor.jpg)

Inquisitor Oskar Hollowhill.

40K!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 09, 2012, 04:06:48 PM
I'd imagine he'd have an enormous combat servitor to back him up!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 09, 2012, 07:58:31 PM
I seem to recall a lot of people drooling over Mantic's Undead - and as no-one reads stickies ................ well Northstar have some on offer, so check the Special Offers sticky for the link.

 :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Johnny-Crass on January 09, 2012, 08:05:25 PM
Mantics undead look horrid IMO.  Wait let me rephrase, Mantic MODELS look horrible IMO

I am surprised no BaneLegions or BaneBeasts have popped up yet
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 10, 2012, 02:17:18 PM
I seem to recall a lot of people drooling over Mantic's Undead - and as no-one reads stickies ................ well Northstar have some on offer, so check the Special Offers sticky for the link.

 :closed-eyes:

The Mantic Undead are selling unbelievably quickly for a small company, but I guess without all the retail overheads they can afford the killer pricing structures they are delivering. Interesting to note they blend in well with the GW Undead as well.
Poor old GW have dropped the ball with their VC undead.
They used to be #9-10 years ago but the last 2 editions of VC Undead have got it mostly wrong. Especially in the ghouls and zombies where Mantic have stolen a march.
I still have not bought the Mantic Undead because my flavour of Undead is one that GW still do very well and that is the Tomb Kings. Still can't go past GW for a good dead gyppo.
Tomb Guard are static but I don't care, they are lovely models.
That sphinx monstrosity though, what a load of kaka.
I'm yet to see anyone do better TK Undead than GW and that includes Croc Games
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 10, 2012, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: FR1DAY
I'd imagine he'd have an enormous combat servitor to back him up!

I'm thinking robot spider.

Also, 'special' hobbit pipe weed = psychotroke grenades.



I seem to recall a lot of people drooling over Mantic's Undead - and as no-one reads stickies ................ well Northstar have some on offer, so check the Special Offers sticky for the link.

I ordered some because they were cheap, and I don't want to pay much for skeletons. If they are rubbish I will of course be blaming you!

Ha ha.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 11, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Damn Mantic are picking up pace...their Cadians are pretty nice too.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html)

At 150 $ for around 120 models including 15 heavy weapon teams it becomes even nicer.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2012, 04:57:25 PM
Those really are good so far.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 11, 2012, 05:05:46 PM
O_o  Aye Carumba, why are they wasting that quality on CADIANS !!! Graaaahhhhh
More attentions on the SQUATS please...

But seriously... 148 models for $150.00, who is going to buy GW anymore? 
How many weapons teams?
Those boys at Mantic are bloody smart, but then they are ex GW and they were with GW for a long time. I'm still waiting for the three Dungeon box sets to come through, cant wait much longer, getting streeeesssed.
That 40k Kak will sell like bloody hot cakes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 11, 2012, 05:53:35 PM
Wow, those pics do look very nice.  Although I will say its easier to do humans well as there is pretty much the same expectation across the board to how we should look.  I bet those will sell very well if the rest of the troops turn out nice.

Otherwise, Crusader miniatures have their rulebooks on sale for the next week or so, 50% off or greater:
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=2&page=1

I was considering getting the ancients/medieval books to try out at some point.  Read a few reviews saying they are pretty streamlined, simple rules which appeals to me.  Anyone tried the Crusader rules, or hear anything good/bad about them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 11, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
I own Crusader's ancients rules ("Crusader") but have not had a chance to play them. I do like them, though. Not too far off the Warhammer model, but with some changes that I've always wanted to see (d10, combining toughness and armor into one resistance test, etc.)

He has a playtest copy of fantasy rules up on the web page too. Downloaded them but haven't had time to read yet.


As far as those Mantic humans,, I think they look better than the Cadians. Plus they are generic enough for non 40k use. If they turn out as good as they look so far, they may be my first Mantic purchase.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 11, 2012, 11:00:19 PM
Cool, perhaps I will give the crusader rules a try - at least in theory.  The reviews I read stressed their streamlined simplicity, which seems like a bonus to trick/recruit new players.

You have to hand it to Mantic, they seem to at least have good presentation of their releases.  Comparing the Mantic humans to the Wargames factory shock troops release - I like the idea of the preorders and army deals, and that they are planning to release several sets at once rather than the basic troops and then heavy weapons teams what, like a year later?

Now, how will the mantic fantasy humans look?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 11, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Nice mantic figs. Maybe they shall produce some footknights, you never have enough of those. But that is waay in the future, if at all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 12, 2012, 02:44:35 AM
Don't forget to take alook at whats going on over at Defiance Games.  They are the same guys who originally founded Wargames factory, and they've got future US Marines up for preorder, plus Hudson's Bugs and future Germans both coming soon as well.  They've got a set of rules that's being created for use with these minatures as well, and plans for various other futuristic releases.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 12, 2012, 03:14:56 AM
Cool, perhaps I will give the crusader rules a try - at least in theory.  The reviews I read stressed their streamlined simplicity, which seems like a bonus to trick/recruit new players.

That's part of what I like about the combined armour & toughness. You get both factors worked into the math, but one less die roll. Similarly, I like the multi-basing thing where you have each unit broken into something like 6 "bases" instead of 24 individual figures. Again, you end up with similar math, but with easier (and more scenic!) basing, movement, etc.

That said, I could deal with just a tiny bit more complexity to the Crusader rules. But as they're more along the lines of Hail Caesar (not tournament focused, encourage friendly play, customizing, etc.) they still seem adaptable. (In truth, so is Warhammer -- both Fantasy and Ancients, but because of the heavy competitive focus of those games, I've noticed a harsh opposition to any customizing of the rules for any purpose, even supposedly "friendly" games.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on January 12, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
Damn. Those guardsmen look better than GW's Cadians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 12, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 12, 2012, 07:49:41 PM
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?

Compensating.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Johnny-Crass on January 12, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
I was wondering on those Mantic "Cadians", if thats what they are, why the bolts on the boot protective plates are so large?

Keep the Stirlanders from stealing their shoes  :biggriin:

Has anyone played Mantics game?  I tried one game and found it very slanted
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 13, 2012, 02:22:24 PM
At first I didn't notice those bolts.  Like most humans, I tend to look at the face and then put it in context of the upper body.  Then when I started scanning the whole figure the bolts stood out, and each time I look at them, its keeping me from wanting to purchase.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 13, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
They're plastic figures - cut the bolts off.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 14, 2012, 02:01:24 PM
They're plastic figures - cut the bolts off.  :wink:

What would these kids do without you zero, I don't know  :icon_rolleyes:
If you are really that freaky about a few bolts cut them off and file them flat.
The models look awesome, I still haven't noticed the bolts and I don't like 40K at all (except for SQUATS who rock)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 14, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
 :icon_lol:

If you're only looking at the guy in the cloak (the one that has oversized bolts on the corner of his garment  :icon_rolleyes: ), then to see what I'm talking about you need to click on the pictures below him to see the guys with the over sized bolts on their boots.

Bah, the figures aren't really that attractive to me anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 14, 2012, 04:40:57 PM
I think I quite like the Mantic skeletons.

My favourite thing about them is actually the skeletal rat/dog thing you get on the sprue though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 14, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Damn Mantic are picking up pace...their Cadians are pretty nice too.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Corporation/Product/Corporation-Armoured-Division-Ultimate-Deal-148-Figures.html)

At 150 £ for around 120 148  :icon_eek: models including 15 heavy weapon teams it becomes even nicer.

Info- Rangers kit includes extras, specifically 9 special weapons (3 of each type, flamer, heat gun, heavy laser rifle), and pistol/ melee weapon option for the leader, along with the drop packs. Think Nightsword mentioned demo charges and stuff as well.

Heavy weapon teams can be built as either lascannon or autocannon, basic corporation marines come with a few special weapon/ melee weapon options. Veterans all have special weapons, with an attached heavy weapon team

Word is that all of the Corporation resin/plastics will have seperate heads and seperate arms... and plenty of different options for both.

Hope they keep that up for the fantasy ranges too.  :icon_cool:


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 15, 2012, 11:39:59 AM
:icon_lol:

If you're only looking at the guy in the cloak (the one that has oversized bolts on the corner of his garment  :icon_rolleyes: ), then to see what I'm talking about you need to click on the pictures below him to see the guys with the over sized bolts on their boots.

Bah, the figures aren't really that attractive to me anyway.

Have a look at this guy's right leg .................... I wonder if this is where the idea of bolts come from. 

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/jeffreyking_0/DSCF0011-11.jpg)

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 15, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
How does he move his legs?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 15, 2012, 12:34:01 PM
With great difficulty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 15, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
Although with no more difficulty than any figure from 40k...I always want to know where they keep their ammo.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 15, 2012, 02:31:59 PM
Ideally, in their enemis' faces.   :engel:

Seriously, cutting off bolts/rivets/whatever on metal figures might be a hassle, but on plastic it's not a big deal.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on January 15, 2012, 06:05:23 PM
Although with no more difficulty than any figure from 40k...I always want to know where they keep their ammo.
Most models that use ammo come with ammo containers of some sort(except space orks maybe), but people can rarely be bothered to glue them on.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on January 15, 2012, 06:12:32 PM
I always assumed magic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 15, 2012, 10:07:40 PM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 16, 2012, 01:02:54 AM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Me too  :icon_mrgreen: it gives them personality i think.

on the other manufacturers note I just got my 60 Old Glory lansknecht halberdeirs in the mail........ I love them....... they are beautiful!!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 16, 2012, 06:31:35 AM
Old Glory do have some special treasures in their midst.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 16, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
Have a look at this guy's right leg .................... I wonder if this is where the idea of bolts come from. 

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/jeffreyking_0/DSCF0011-11.jpg)

 :engel:
His right foot looks bigger than his left, too.  Not thrilled with that Space Wolf figure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on January 18, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Me too  :icon_mrgreen: it gives them personality i think.

on the other manufacturers note I just got my 60 Old Glory lansknecht halberdeirs in the mail........ I love them....... they are beautiful!!  :icon_lol:

So you like them?  You can't beat the price, and I almost ordered some greatswords from them, but the pictures are awful.  I just couldn't bring myself to order them without knowing exactly what they looked like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 18, 2012, 02:25:30 AM
I like the bolts, I'm for keeping them. :icon_mrgreen:
Me too  :icon_mrgreen: it gives them personality i think.

on the other manufacturers note I just got my 60 Old Glory lansknecht halberdeirs in the mail........ I love them....... they are beautiful!!  :icon_lol:

So you like them?  You can't beat the price, and I almost ordered some greatswords from them, but the pictures are awful.  I just couldn't bring myself to order them without knowing exactly what they looked like.
Yeah what I ended up doing was google searching them. came up with some nice stuff so I decided to take the risk.
Sure beats shoeless monkeys in pajamas from gw
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on January 18, 2012, 03:17:26 AM
Yeah what I ended up doing was google searching them. came up with some nice stuff so I decided to take the risk.
Sure beats shoeless monkeys in pajamas from gw

My sentiments, exactly.  I started during 6th, so all my state troopers look like that.  Now, I want to expand, which rules out the current GW state troops.  I was pondering converting my old spearmen to halberds, but I think I'll leave them intact and go for some Old Glory ones at some point.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 18, 2012, 06:31:41 AM
I got my handgunners from Old Glory, metal and the best poses and weapons I have seen for the particular unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on January 23, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I΄m surprised nobody posted those guys from Avatars of War, yet:

(http://www.avatars-of-war.com/images/apoc_war_cast.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 23, 2012, 12:41:53 PM
Where you got those? I serched for them on  their official site, but nada.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on January 23, 2012, 03:56:15 PM
Found them in some German forum but they also have a thread  in the official forum:

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=861

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on January 23, 2012, 05:54:39 PM
Nice models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on January 23, 2012, 07:04:21 PM
Are those resin or plastic? They look like plastic. There are parts. How much are they?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 23, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
Are those resin or plastic? They look like plastic. There are parts. How much are they?

Resin plastic, they call it warcast, and will be more expensive than their plastic range, but cheaper than finecast and will be direct order only.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 24, 2012, 07:49:40 AM
They look nice and if they are in the price range of the Dwarf slayers they made I think they will be fantastic...they should make Empire now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 25, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
Plastic chaos warriors with oversized weapons?
Are they Rackham  :icon_question: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 25, 2012, 09:31:17 PM
The company's name is AVATARS OF WAR. It's Spanish  - so you were half close. :icon_mrgreen:

Actually Rackham line is being re-released by Cmon- in resin and with 100% price hike.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 27, 2012, 11:12:40 PM
Got this email about upcoming releases from foundry. 
link (http://wargamesfoundry.com/coming_soon/?utm_source=Foundry+Miniatures+Ltd+List&utm_campaign=a30ddcac18-COMING_SOON_FROM_FOUNDRY_1_26_2012&utm_medium=email)

Look at these 'upcoming' Elizabethans:

(http://wargamesfoundry.com/kevimages/Images/ranges11/Elizabethan%20PROMO.jpg)

I really hope they don't discontinue the old range, as its probably one of their nicest.  Like, look at their current ones:

some nice spanish:
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/elizabethan/spanish/brutal_sword_and_buckler_men_sb016/?sector_id=12

some nice british:
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/elizabethan/british/elizabethan_pikemen_liz004/?sector_id=12

Man, those new elizabethans look like garbage compared to the current models!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 28, 2012, 09:51:10 AM
The company's name is AVATARS OF WAR. It's Spanish  - so you were half close. :icon_mrgreen:

Actually Rackham line is being re-released by Cmon- in resin and with 100% price hike.

I think you missed the sarcasm.
I've been aware of Mr Felix Paniagua for 9? years.
His Dragonrune orcs are legendary.
Shame about his AoW goblin range which is very average.

Rackham coming back? Good old Chinese eh?

Timbor, they look quite nice, very static but still nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 28, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
Bohemian Troops released some Thirty Years War cavalry (~ three musketeers era), including some heavy cavalry that might work well as alternative pistoliers (you could probably supplement them with more variants from ECW ranges from Perry Miniatures or Warlord Games)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-1-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-3-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-2-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-stand-jpg/)

http://www.horcata.eu/category/thirty-years-war/ (http://www.horcata.eu/category/thirty-years-war/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 28, 2012, 03:31:04 PM
I like the pistoliers. Do they have other (less static) horse options?

The Foundry figures are awful, and just another in a growing line of them replacing beautiful old sculpts with newer ones that look horrible. Ok, some are mediocre (at best) but certainly not worth the "premium" Foundry price.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 28, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
Light armour....right?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on January 28, 2012, 11:20:55 PM
Those look pretty much exactly like the Warlord Games ones tbh, just with metal horse
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gwyddyon on January 29, 2012, 01:11:28 AM
So, those Foundry releases...what exactly is going on with the left arms on the two in the bottom right? :icon_confused:  Much prefer the older sculpts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on January 29, 2012, 02:43:28 AM
Those look pretty much exactly like the Warlord Games ones tbh, just with a totally shitty horse

Fixed that for you. ;)


Fantization are pimping this in their coming soon advertisements:

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8411/wizardi.jpg)

Pretty campy, but kind of right in line with the recent batches of cartoony empire wizards from GW   :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 29, 2012, 08:54:58 AM
There's a bit of Rincewind in there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 29, 2012, 10:02:42 AM
I like the pistoliers. Do they have other (less static) horse options?

Actually, I've had a look on their site and apparently the horse is just for show. They are selling the riders by themselves, so you can put them on whatever horse you want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on January 31, 2012, 07:32:07 AM
Looks like they need to make some horses. 8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 31, 2012, 10:31:12 AM
I really like the style of those gunmen. They are realistic but fluffy in the same time. And not too expensive. The horses - not a problem, since GW sell them separately and to be honest here - GW makes the best looking horses on the market, in all editions. I love them all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 31, 2012, 12:38:47 PM
I see the fact they are selling just the riders as an opportunity too as it allows to put all your figures from different manufacturers on the same horse brand to blend them in.

Better stock up on those plastic GW horses before they discontinue them though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on January 31, 2012, 09:00:15 PM
I see the fact they are selling just the riders as an opportunity too as it allows to put all your figures from different manufacturers on the same horse brand to blend them in.

Better stock up on those plastic GW horses before they discontinue them though.

I just stick my riders to the horses with poster sticky tack, so I never have to buy new horses. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on February 01, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
There's a bit of Rincewind in there.
He doesn't look miserable and inept though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 01, 2012, 03:27:22 PM
I really like those TYW riders....very tempting....

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 02, 2012, 10:48:45 PM

The Fireforge Teutonic Knights are almost here - more photos .................


(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427596_357985154230393_218634441498799_1336523_1470132019_n.jpg)

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429947_357985234230385_218634441498799_1336525_435710562_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407339_357985360897039_218634441498799_1336527_631227420_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423100_357985407563701_218634441498799_1336528_1917684786_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 03, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
So no need for knew GW knights then. Weyhey
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 03, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
Unless you want Empire-looking knights rather than Bretonnian-looking knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on February 03, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Those crusader knights are nice if you are looking for knights from around the Araby crusades time (1400s).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 03, 2012, 08:27:15 PM
Those look great. Very animated.

But yeah, not really my cup o' Empire tea. Look more like retro-Bretonnians.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 03, 2012, 08:50:43 PM
Those look great. Very animated.

But yeah, not really my cup o' Empire tea. Look more like retro-Bretonnians.

Ditto, they look nice but they look Bretonnian or Crusade period.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Novogord on February 03, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
So no need for knew GW knights then. Weyhey
It will depend on how they compare to our normal troops. They might be very tinny...

I do like the sculpting though, very nice figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 03, 2012, 10:58:30 PM
Teutonic Knights = Middenland knights during the three emperors period.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2012, 06:20:39 AM
I think the horses are the pick of the bunch, they are full of movement, rearing to go... really nice mount sculpts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 04, 2012, 09:46:04 AM
Foundry have released some more of their not so well sculpted mercenaries.

(http://wargamesfoundry.com/horde.php?id=82208&prodid=82208)

I may be tempted by the pistoliers because they look like they might go with the old metal ones (though the poses are awkward compared to those classics) and they don't have any of the very crude puff and slash that's sculpted on the others.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 04, 2012, 12:16:03 PM
They're ok but... no thank you.  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on February 04, 2012, 02:11:40 PM
Those Teutonic Knights look great, they really emphasize the might of a cavalry charge.

The Foundry figures are pretty poor, especially when viewed close up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 04, 2012, 05:50:25 PM
Foundry has released their amazon collection, and it seems in the excitement of it all, many amazons have released their boobs  :blush:

http://wargamesfoundry.com/greek_mythology/collections/any/any/amazons_collection_bcwg501/?sector_id=

The sculpts look better done than their new condottiere units, but there are an awful lot more breasts flopping around than I would expect of a tribe of ferocious warrior women... 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 04, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Kinda spendy for what they are. Wargames Factory Amazons are nicer models, about 1/4 of the price with more options (if you discount the lack of skirts).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2012, 01:16:32 AM
Disappointed with the Foundry Italian Wars and their Elizabethans.

However the book 'Condottiere' has impressed me more - the rules are interesting with all units having fixed sizes Infantry 16 and Cavalry 10 and rather than roll dice for 'wounds' you use playing cards.

A bit like SAGA each type of unit is worth a number of points and you build an army to 30 points - your country of origin determines which units you have access to.


Personally I think the TAG Italians minis look much better ............. and I do like those Teutonic Knights - I am sure you could use less ornate heads/helmets - in fact I thought the sprue had choices.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 05, 2012, 10:23:17 AM
However the book 'Condottiere' has impressed me more - the rules are interesting with all units having fixed sizes Infantry 16 and Cavalry 10 and rather than roll dice for 'wounds' you use playing cards.

That book was partially ruined for me by those same crappy figures being plastered over nearly every page of it, making me cringe whenever they catch my eye.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2012, 11:10:49 AM
That book was partially ruined for me by those same crappy figures being plastered over nearly every page of it, making me cringe whenever they catch my eye.

So you have the book and I have the book ...............

...... so we need to meet up and have a try out of the game .................

....how does the weekend of April 28th sound ................ somewhere nearer to you, say -  like St Niklaas ............................

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 05, 2012, 11:59:29 AM
I have a wedding on the 28th (not my own).  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
I have a wedding on the 28th (not my own).  :engel:

That's alright - I'll be there for the 29th and the 30th .......................

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 05, 2012, 12:54:43 PM
Hey, I have the book too!  Why don't you both just come across the pond and play here?  :happy:

Midaski, you can bring those minis you need to ship me too  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 06, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
Found this over at TMP

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=264929004 (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=264929004)

new perry WOTR stuff. Looks like the mounted men at arms will be out either for or just after salute

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 06, 2012, 06:47:33 PM
Loving that Italian armored horseman - they could be mingled with GW Knights without any difficulty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 06, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
Talking about this guy, I guess. It+s a 3up, so not really relevant to show quality, but we'll see.



(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2012/feb/264929004a.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 06, 2012, 08:16:15 PM
Perry stuff is universally good; never seen a bad model from them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 06, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
Wow, love the knight. Can't wait to see the full kit!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 06, 2012, 08:56:41 PM
The legs look like the current empire knights legs but with stirrups.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 07, 2012, 02:13:00 AM
The plume on top seems a bit over done to me...but other than that... :eusa_clap:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 07, 2012, 08:25:35 AM
Agreed, that plume will be coming off in a heart beat.
Otherwise fine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 07, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
here is another Ratnik Special...

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i405/1202/ec/53f88886fd7f.jpg)

(http://i009.radikal.ru/1202/5a/0e72499dff43.jpg)

(http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1202/ca/2bd5dc01599b.jpg)

Pure WIN!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 07, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
Yeah, that is absolutely SWEET! Makes me almost wish I had regular cannons in my army!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 07, 2012, 09:42:49 PM
Very ornate artillery, nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 08, 2012, 10:52:13 AM
I think they are slightly too ornate for my taste, but I'll likely still get a couple.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 08, 2012, 09:07:56 PM
Sexamalicious

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 10, 2012, 02:38:40 AM
new knights....... I'm drooling over those perry knights......
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 10, 2012, 07:09:12 AM
Those Ratnik cannons are sweet. And those Perry minis are just to good to be true!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 10, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
Loving that Italian armored horseman - they could be mingled with GW Knights without any difficulty.

More likely they will be 'replacing' GW Empire knights   :icon_wink:

Anyone looking for Empire mounted plastic knights, I have about 120 up for sale shortly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 10, 2012, 05:31:53 PM
Loving that Italian armored horseman - they could be mingled with GW Knights without any difficulty.

More likely they will be 'replacing' GW Empire knights   :icon_wink:

Anyone looking for Empire mounted plastic knights, I have about 120 up for sale shortly.

Especially if GW decides to make the new knights set in finecast, then we can expect  a tag price about 100€ for 4 knihgts. :eusa_wall:

Justnorth, would 0,20 a piece be a fair offer? :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 10, 2012, 07:49:19 PM
You may need to follow the financial sectors bright and bold moves and engage in some quantitative easing.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 10, 2012, 10:29:10 PM
Ah, is this a fancy way of saying yes?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 11, 2012, 07:24:30 AM
Its a fancy way of saying you better go to your parents for some more pocket money  :biggriin: :icon_lol: :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 11, 2012, 07:59:00 AM
Maybe you should go to your grandchildren and ask them to explain the word 'sarcastic' to you.  :roll:


....and no, I won't go hang myself just to please you...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 11, 2012, 08:06:20 AM
  :icon_question:
 :?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 11, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
"When you hang from a gibbet for the sport of your own crows, we will have peace."
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 11, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
Boxes of Empire knights on ebay go very cheaply these days - I've picked a brand new box up for around £6 a couple of times in the last year, just to get armoured torso and left arms for conversions.

Maybe you should hang on to them for twenty years by which time we might have new ones and the current ones might have some nostalgia value  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 12, 2012, 10:27:09 AM
O venerable one, how can you think so poorly of Games Workshop, whom you know in their inimitable wisdom will release new knights just at the right time   
 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on February 13, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
I think some of them could work well for empire.

http://www.vesper-on.com/index.php?lang=en (http://www.vesper-on.com/index.php?lang=en)

Like the butcher

http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en (http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en)

and they do have fishmen

http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en (http://vesper-on.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=10&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7&lang=en)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 20, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
If I recall correctly, these might have been posted previously, but if not, here they are ...

http://sgmm.biz/borderreivers.html

Those are looking mighty fine!  :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2012, 01:37:10 AM
Just found these ...

http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/

The links to their pictures are at the bottom of that page.  Not sure if the figures are as good as the ones in the previous post, plus they're listed as 25mm.  Does anyone have any experience with this manufacturer or their Border Reiver series?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
And here's some more 28mm Border Reivers ...

http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/borderreivers.htm

An those look cool! :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 21, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
If I recall correctly, these might have been posted previously, but if not, here they are ...

http://sgmm.biz/borderreivers.html

Those are looking mighty fine!  :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:

They're the old Vendel range that were sold in the UK - Stafford Games sort of took them over for a while, and still hada few minis at the last show I went to, but then the business (moulds ) were sold over the pond ......................

They are quite nice - I have a few .............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 21, 2012, 06:20:03 PM
I bought two packs of the ancients from the new US manufacturer of the old Vendel figures (Molon Labe/Sgt. Major.) Maybe I was just unlucky, but both packs were pretty poorly cast. In fact, the pack of staff slingers is more or less unusable. It looks like there was a chunk of the mold missing, so one part of the face around the eye is just a horrible lump -- almost like the Skaven figures that have chunks of warpstone jammed into their eye sockets, but less defined. No hope of making them look human. The other pack (hypaspists) was better, but still had a lot of flash - more than any other figure I've seen from any manufacturer in a decade or so. I haven't even bothered with trying to clean/paint them, so I don't remember if the two sides aligned properly or if there was any slippage in the molds. Below is a pic of the hypaspist -- I don't have one of the staff slinger.


EDIT: I just packed these figures up, I had it backwards. The hypaspists, shown below, are the ones with the messed up eyes. It's the left eye, you can kind of see the lump projecting out in front of the helmet in the photo. The staff slingers look somewhat serviceable.


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/macinfcomp01.jpg)

All of those figures are in "straight out of the package" condition -- no cleaning/filing done to any of them.

I was going to order a bunch of figures from them, but wanted a couple "sample packs" first. Good thing I did!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on February 21, 2012, 11:53:36 PM
Man that molon labe one looks crap.

Foundry looks like the pick of the litter there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2012, 04:40:33 AM
Man that molon labe one looks crap.

Foundry looks like the pick of the litter there.

I actually prefer the Crusader. They're a bit simpler & easier to paint, the Foundry shields are small (diameter) but thick, and although these figures are OK, I've noticed that the casting quality on some of the Foundry figures seems to have declined in recent years. But still, they're from the "golden age" of Foundry and are only a close second to Crusader, for me.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Athiuen on February 22, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
It would be easier to choose with them in-hand.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 22, 2012, 03:03:31 PM
Like the looks of the Crusader figure, the First Corp looks detailed, and the Molon Lobe really looks like its hurting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 22, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
I was going to buy some of the mastiffs off Molon Labe..... starting to second guess it now
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 22, 2012, 07:15:03 PM
Probably can't mess up the casting on the dogs too much.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2012, 07:23:35 PM
I was going to buy some of the mastiffs off Molon Labe..... starting to second guess it now

I have some from when they were made in the UK - realistic size so smaller than the Mordheim Witch Hunter wardogs!  :engel:
Hopefully the moulds have travelled better than the 'Ancients' pictured above.

If I was O23 I would have complained and sent them back .....................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 22, 2012, 07:53:34 PM
I was going to buy some of the mastiffs off Molon Labe..... starting to second guess it now

I have some from when they were made in the UK - realistic size so smaller than the Mordheim Witch Hunter wardogs!  :engel:
Hopefully the moulds have travelled better than the 'Ancients' pictured above.

If I was O23 I would have complained and sent them back .....................
They are really that small?  :icon_cry:
I was going to use them as warhounds. oh well
I would have sent them back too......
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 23, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Speaking of warhounds ....

http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections/complete-collection/products/pack-of-cyberwolves

These might make pretty good Space Wolf thunderwolf mounts, or for some other purpose (if the Empire can have the robo-horse, surely an Ulric Engineer would . . . )
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 24, 2012, 09:39:11 AM
War dogs.

If you can find them, Chronopia "Sons of Kronos War Hounds"
http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2350.html (http://www.princeaugust.ie/target_games/tg2350.html)

Not a bad size (but please excuse the picture from my phone)
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/dogs_of_war.jpg)

Gripping Beast also do them (but not sure on size)
http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=289 (http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=289)

And Warlord Games
http://store.warlordgames.com/warhound-pack-542-p.asp (http://store.warlordgames.com/warhound-pack-542-p.asp)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 24, 2012, 11:36:33 AM

The Warlord Games ones are quite tiny - I had bought the Vendel ones a few years ago, and then saw the WG ones at Salute - quite a difference.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 24, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
Just had the WG weekly email ..........

I quite like this:

http://www.warlordgames.com/18097/new-warlord-games-firepower-lights/

 ......... now we need sound effects ........

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on February 24, 2012, 09:32:04 PM
Way too cool  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 25, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
Certainly brought a smile to my face this morning! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 26, 2012, 01:18:38 AM
I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

(There is link up there, just in case you were wondering.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 26, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
And he has a point, too.


(Is that your blog, wissenlander...?)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 26, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
I quite like this:

http://www.warlordgames.com/18097/new-warlord-games-firepower-lights/

 ......... now we need sound effects ........


I like those too. Very cool.

Back in the early, golden age of my gaming experience, I played at a store where one of the guys built terrain with those incandescent "flickering candle" lights in them. He had a big mine entrance that we used at the store. LEDs are probably a lot more practical (though maybe not as convincing for torch/fire light.)


I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

To some extent I get the point but at the same time I think he underestimates the power of cheap. I'm not the biggest fan of most of Mantic's ranges. But, for example, if I were to play undead, I see no reason to spend ridiculous money on GW figures when Mantic has done it at least as good (if not better) for half the price. Some people feel that way about their other ranges.

I think he misses what they are doing. They're not going head to head with GW, they're riding GW's coat tails. They seem to be doing OK.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on February 26, 2012, 08:52:23 PM
And he has a point, too.

He does, but I disagree.  Wargames Factory tried that with their orcs, making them look all Roman-y...and my friend, that I directed to their site as a cheap source of orcs, didn't like the look and didn't buy any.  I think Mantic has to stay pretty generic, so that they have the biggest pool of potential customers.  Also, yeah, cheap.  Quantity has a quality all its own.  I have about 2000 points of VC thanks to Mantic; if I had bought all GW, I'd have like a 750 point warband.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 26, 2012, 09:32:05 PM
I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

(There is link up there, just in case you were wondering.)

I don't see what he rumbles about: The Mantic goblins are different enough to exist on their own:

(http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Goblin-and-Mawbeast.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2012, 12:13:17 AM
Wargames Factory tried that with their orcs, making them look all Roman-y

Romans? Er... not by a long shot.

If anything, I think they look like they were aiming for Angus McBride orcs.

Edit: I tried a Google image ssearch for "angus mcbride orc" and the first one that came up was on this page, comparing one of his paintings to the WF figures. http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/printthread.php?tid=8963

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2012, 01:15:59 AM
I don't see what he rumbles about: The Mantic goblins are different enough to exist on their own:

(http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Goblin-and-Mawbeast.jpg)

Glowing green goblin!  :icon_eek:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 27, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
I really like those Wargames Factory Orcs - those look like lovely models. WF do some decent stuff, in my view.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on February 27, 2012, 03:17:01 AM
I really like those Wargames Factory Orcs - those look like lovely models. WF do some decent stuff, in my view.

I agree.  I have their skeletons and will probably get more in the future.  Just saying that if you try to get too cute when you're sculpting fantasy army figures, you might sculpt your way out of a sale, even if you're talented.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 27, 2012, 03:20:42 AM
Based on my cursory glance at the WF news page, they seem to sculpt stuff with a lot of input from the (perhaps small and vocal) community; so they know it will appeal to some. I rather get the impression they are market-driven rather than market-driving (as GW are).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 27, 2012, 03:33:30 AM
At least since the ownership shake up, perhaps.  Prior, they were doing things like Sci-Fi Shock Troops for a new their own rules, and generic War of Spanish Succession.  Now they are doing 15mm WWII to sell inexpensive plastic vs. FoW metal, but unfortunately the mixture of figures on the sprue seems lackiing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2012, 05:29:37 AM
If anything, I think they look like they were aiming for Angus McBride orcs.


The more I think on it, as a side effect of that, they also have a bit of a feel of the Ian Miller art in some of the really old GW books. (Which might be described as something akin to Angus McBride's orcs, if Mr. McBride dropped acid and only worked in black ink.)

Edit (again): OK, so my memory's fauilty, he did work in color too (http://www.sci-fi-o-rama.com/2009/06/14/ian-miller-the-battle-of-hornburg/). I usually think of his B&W drawings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on February 27, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
I read this (http://thatguyjames.blogspot.com/2012/01/dear-mantic.html). Made me laugh.

(There is link up there, just in case you were wondering.)

I don't see what he rumbles about: The Mantic goblins are different enough to exist on their own:

[,img width=750 height=562]http://www.manticblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Goblin-and-Mawbeast.jpg[/img]

Those beasts look utterly silly mind.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 27, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
On another subject entirely, I quite like this tank thing:

http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=382
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 27, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
Something about the shape of it Rufus, reminds me of one of the French WWII tanks circa 1940, was it a Renault?
No no it wasn't... I was thinking of the REnault R35 originally but the shape reminded me of an earlier British tank, the Vickers Medium mark II from the interwar period, a funny old thing but anyway, the shape of your linked tank reminded me of it...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Medium_Mark_II
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 28, 2012, 11:00:30 AM
Of course it does...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 28, 2012, 01:58:02 PM
Anybody bought these, they are rather nice and have great options for halberdiers and dismounted knights...
http://www.vexillia.ltd.uk/mirliton/shop28_humans.html
I think they are the old Copplestone sculpted Grenadier miniatures that Mirliton put out and they are available through Vexillia here in the UK.
Anybody got any of these repro's ?
If so what are they like?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 28, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
If so what are they like?


Nice, but a tad small. Can't mix 'em with GW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on February 28, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
If those are the same as the Grenadier/Mirlton then they work perfectly fine with GW stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on February 28, 2012, 05:50:26 PM
I have a couple of the dismounted knight characters. They are very nice sculpts and tall enough, but a bit more slender than GW, with smaller heads. I'm fussy about such things.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 28, 2012, 05:54:56 PM

............ but then if you had some of the older 25mm minis from the Fighters and early Brets era they would fit ok too I imagine.

Not seen these before, and I have to say I am impressed - though looking at the tree trunk lances I notice the 'heroic' weapon scale.  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 29, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
Considering they came out in the early 90's they're not bad at all.

Although the later sculpts not done by Mark Copplestone do look a bit poo.

Mark has revisited fantasy a couple of times, but at 10mm (with his NOT Lord of the Rings range that coincidentally fits in with Warmaster very nicely) and now 15mm.

Unfortunately I got rid of mine a long time ago, but if memory serves they will fit in with v6 figures nicely - apart from the horses which are a truer scale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 29, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
There was some mention of 4Ground back on page 39 about their buildings.

I've just seen these as well:

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/43710294-7761-4bc5-b2a6-9f2f6b34da7f_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/0048048d-06ba-4f61-a407-cf05e9d8fefc_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/24d14195-71d9-4629-902c-bda2b1ea54f9_thumb.jpg)

(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/5b04e938-0afb-4ff1-9e76-44db7d9d14a1_thumb.jpg)

at £5.00 each for the first two, and then £3.00 and £3.50 they look amazing value.

I have seen a link somehwere to someone giving the Tudor house discussed earlier a 'makeover' adding thin balsa strips to the beam/timber positions to give the model depth.

http://www.4ground.co.uk/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on February 29, 2012, 09:57:16 PM
If so what are they like?


Nice, but a tad small. Can't mix 'em with GW

Soth reckons they're a bit small to work with current GW models. Fair call.

If those are the same as the Grenadier/Mirlton then they work perfectly fine with GW stuff.

Orcyboy thinks they are just fine. Fair call.

What am I to do?

Three more posters come on board and the odds are split fairly evenly.

Hmmmmm...   conundrum...
Then it occurs to me, that firstly, my handgunners are all the old style Old Glory anyway that Midaski put me on to a couple of years ago, I plumped about £80 quid on those bad boys and they are a little shorter than any of the current plastic handgunners, so.... the Grenadier handgunners will be spot on as an addition to the army, they will fit in fine. I want the hand cannons in the same unit as the handgunners with the taper lighters in the 2nd rank.

Next it occurs to me that I don't have many plastic GW Empire miniatures from after 6th edition so is size still going to be an issue?
Maybe?
I have a lot of older Empire models for Reiksguard foot knights (about 70 all metals) and these 4th and 5th edition guys may well be a bit smaller (as in a tad shorter) than my later 6th edition Empire boys, I have metal fladgies (about 65 I think?) similar number of metal Teutogen guard? and about 90 metal GW Kossars
4th, 5th, and 6th edition plastic core troops (maybe 500 plastic core troops in total not including handgunners) and about 300 metal core troops from the same editions spread across roughly evenly and I'm pretty sure the earlier metals are a bit shorter, but not really any less wide or solid if you like.
Against these the older grenadier foot knights might fit in nicely. I have some old grenadier foot troops in metal already and I'm keen to get some more of the handgunners and halberdiers.
The issue is I think Soth is right where the halberdiers are concerned. The older metal halberdiers are definitely shorter than the modern plastic options.
I might have to keep the Halberd and spear units separate and not mix and mingle the older metal halberdiers with their newer plastic counterparts.
The plastic 6th edition core troops are a bit taller than the older metals.
I have around 450-500 metal DoW Empire model options on foot as well but they are almost all a bit skinnier, especially the pike blocks models, and a bit shorter than the late model plastics.
Are the metal body White Wolf Cavalry a bit smaller than the current cavalry? Or the same size?
I have 120 odd white wolf cav and if they are a bit smaller I could field them exclusively with the older models on foot.
I guess that with the Empire knights not having changed their kit for so long the white wolves are probably the same size as the regular knights?
Hmmmm... bugger.
KIslev horse archers are definitely a bit smaller but I only have 60 of them and those little rats don't have any armour on  hmmmm...
Maybe Gryphon knights will be the way forward.

Better idea, I'll just split the army into two different eras, older and newer models and the handgunners can float between the two armies because they never mingle in the units.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on March 01, 2012, 06:16:28 AM

If those are the same as the Grenadier/Mirlton then they work perfectly fine with GW stuff.

Orcyboy thinks they are just fine. Fair call.

They certainly don't fit in with the current Empire miniatures. They work better with the 6th ed Empire and older.

The biggest problem with them isn't so much hieght and build as it is the time period they represent.  Their dress is more directed at the Burgundian/Swiss wars era and mine are mixed in with the old 80's Bretonnian crossbowman which represnt same period.

So to be honest they mix in perfectly fine with the 80's Bretonnian/Fighters series as Midaski pointed out but will stand out like sore thumbs with the 7th ed and even 6th when considering their lack of slash and puff.  Ofcourse they still make excellent Tilean mercenaries.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 01, 2012, 07:35:10 AM
Roger that Orcy, I've got enough miniatures to split them into time periods of manufacturing (as opposed to historical time periods) and that will mean they are unlikely to clash in terms of height or dress code/uniforms.
I do hope allies are back in the Empire book because I have a swag of puffy sleeved Imperial Dwarves that are waiting to come out of retirement.
I mean they do play in Armies of Arcana but it's been a few editions since they could officially enlist in the Empire ranks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 01, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
[The biggest problem with them isn't so much hieght and build as it is the time period they represent.  Their dress is more directed at the Burgundian/Swiss wars era and mine are mixed in with the old 80's Bretonnian crossbowman which represnt same period.

Bretonnians represent HYW period though (at least they did in the 90s), so earlier still. I do agree the grenadier stuff is too early for Empire, but then so is the Perry Miniatures stuff everyone seems to like to use for Empire.

To me, both Grenadier and Perry are better suited for Border Princes and DOW.

But the grenadier full plate knights aren't too different from the Empire ones, so should work. The horses however are rather tiny so will have to be replaced if any mounted figures are purchased.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2012, 11:38:54 AM
The horses however are rather tiny so will have to be replaced if any mounted figures are purchased.

So suitable as MM66 Reiksgard mounts then ...................  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 01, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
There was some mention of 4Ground back on page 39 about their buildings.

I've just seen these as well:
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/24d14195-71d9-4629-902c-bda2b1ea54f9_thumb.jpg)http://www.4ground.co.uk/

Excuse the poor photo (used the damned phone) but here is one I put together with a Front Rank draft horse
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/wargaming/4ground/Cart.jpg)

The Ox cart is massive - and I have ox's from Front Rank also to pull it - but they are still bare wood/metal

Did you see this one?
(http://www.4ground.co.uk/ProductImages/6d674bdb-35e2-46bf-b576-5325c3f70424_lightboxLarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2012, 03:16:01 PM
Must resist ......... must resist ...............

They will render my Hirst Arts moulds obsolete ...........

The bad news is I have my Salute ticket .............. and their stuff is on the Colonel Bill's Stand.


That cart looks great and for £3.00 it's even better.
That building - painted - is £45.90 - cannot see it offered unpainted as some of their stuff is.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 01, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
The biggest problem with them isn't so much hieght and build as it is the time period they represent.  Their dress is more directed at the Burgundian/Swiss wars era and mine are mixed in with the old 80's Bretonnian crossbowman which represnt same period.
Bretonnians represent HYW period though (at least they did in the 90s), so earlier still. I do agree the grenadier stuff is too early for Empire, but then so is the Perry Miniatures stuff everyone seems to like to use for Empire.

To me, both Grenadier and Perry are better suited for Border Princes and DOW.

But the grenadier full plate knights aren't too different from the Empire ones, so should work. The horses however are rather tiny so will have to be replaced if any mounted figures are purchased.
Got my Perrys being painted up to use for historicals or Tileans (DoW).

- - - - - - - - - -

That cart looks a bit big for just one horse, even with it unloaded.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 01, 2012, 05:59:00 PM
Must resist ......... must resist ...............

They will render my Hirst Arts moulds obsolete ...........


Really.

The bad news is I have my Salute ticket ..............


See you there O most venerable one ;-)


That building - painted - is £45.90 - cannot see it offered unpainted as som eof their stuff is.

At that price your hirst moulds are looking fairly safe.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
At that price your hirst moulds are looking fairly safe.

Well it's the Market Hall painted inside and out and with interiors as per Donnachaidh's pics on the previous page, plus a cottage, which I think is only painted on the outside.

The Market Hall on its own looks like it is £35.00 if you go to the Pirates and Fantasy page.

Compared to some of the resin buildings it's not that bad.

They are apparently going to offer it unpainted - that price will be interesting.

The carts certainly look a winner - simple metal versions are quite pricey in comparison.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 02, 2012, 09:47:53 AM
I'm seeing Ben and the crew at a party next weekend in Bristol, so I will badger him about an unpainted version - actually I will do it before then as I want him to bring me one to have a play with.

My thought was the cart was too big also. Mrs R says otherwise (she knows about that sort of stuff) but visually, I agree with you.

The Ox cart is better as it is pulled by two animals - or even four or six if you want to.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 02, 2012, 09:54:42 AM

Are you queue jumping at Salute this year ...............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 02, 2012, 10:00:18 AM

Are you queue jumping at Salute this year ...............  :engel:

In my defence, I just found myself in the queue, and went with it........

EDIT
Unless I can blag a traders or participants ticket which bypasses all queues..!!  :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 02, 2012, 06:41:38 PM
And my latest with the Rorkes Drift buildings mixed with rendered walls
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/farm_06.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 03, 2012, 08:00:50 AM
Very nice, I can almost hear Michael Caine's cockney accent spouting,
"Don't you point that bloody spear at me!"
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on March 03, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Except Caine spoke with an officer's accent throughout that film. Didn't he?

There was a cockney skiver who became a hero though - private something or other (many people on this forum will know his name).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 03, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
Henry Hook
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on March 04, 2012, 10:24:45 AM
Ha ha! Henry Hook. Hexcellent help.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 06, 2012, 10:06:28 PM
It seems someone has spotted some new sets from Fireforge to add to their Teutonic Knights:

Templar Knights and Mounted Sergeants  - both seem to be 12 man sets

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=117:templar-knights-mounted-sergeants-preview&Itemid=477

Haven't looked at the sprue details too closely - I guess there will be some overlapping, but I will be at Salute, so that's three new boxes I need to put on the shopping list ............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on March 06, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
when is salute?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 07, 2012, 06:00:55 AM
Have a look on the south london warlords website
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 07, 2012, 08:57:17 AM
when is salute?

The Saturday before the Bash weekend - April 21st

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 07, 2012, 09:09:57 AM
so that's three new boxes I need to put on the shopping list ............

So, have you painted the Conquest Norman's yet...............    :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 07, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
Excuse the poor photo (used the damned phone) but here is one I put together with a Front Rank draft horse
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/wargaming/4ground/Cart.jpg)

The Ox cart is massive - and I have ox's from Front Rank also to pull it - but they are still bare wood/metal

Is that on a 50 by 100mm base? How big is the 4-wheeled cart?

Also, how durable are these things?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 07, 2012, 09:43:31 AM
I would have to measure - I just cut a rectangle of plasticard that fitted both.

They are durable, and the yoke is movable on the ox cart which is impressive.
I found this on the phone, so I uploaded it for you

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/Ox.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 07, 2012, 09:49:21 AM
Thanks!

Hmmmm, pretty big then. Too big for a snotling pump wagon! Might get one anyway though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on March 07, 2012, 09:52:13 AM
Perhaps a snotling pump tank?

If you are looking for conversion perposes, I think it is roughly 100mm long in the body, and between 45mm and 50mm wide
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 07, 2012, 01:15:38 PM
I quite fancy the covered wagon. I think it looks nice!

Not for the snotlings though. Way too big. Am building one out of plasticard and sprue instead.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 10, 2012, 07:39:23 AM
If so what are they like?


Nice, but a tad small. Can't mix 'em with GW

They (they being the missile troops I ordered from Vexilia, cast by Mirliton from the old Grenadier moulds)  have arrived, Huzzah ! and they are rather lovely but they are also closer to 25mm than 28mm.
The pre-slotta base will give them a little added height on top of the slotta but it's also a matter of proportions, they are shorter and slighter than the chunky modern plastics. They will fit perfectly with my Old Glory handgunners and they are rather lovely sculpts, my favourite is the adorable little Culverin, very well sculpted and absolutely perfect as a Halfling cannon. Quite the ticket.
 I'll be getting another because the culverin is just glorious.
Very happy with the hand cannoneers as well. Once again they won't mix particularly well with modern plastics but when it comes to handgunners these models are better sculpted than the modern plastic handgunners and they can be used as historicals as well should the urge take me... I am enamoured with how the sculpt shows the gunner struggling to keep the weapon in position let alone on target. The taper bearers look suitably wary of gettinmg close to the semi-unstable weapon. Nice touch.
Arquebusiers are nice as well, plenty of chainmail and a nice variety in the presentation of the different handgonnes as well showing someone did their research before sculpting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2012, 01:40:29 AM
Got back from Cold Wars earlier today. Saw a couple things there that may be of Empire-ish interest.

First was Bronze Age Miniatures. I saw these dwarfs...

http://www.bronzeagemin.com/miniatures_html/32MM/FANTASY/dwarves/Dwarf-set-2.htm

...but didn't buy any. But I did buy a pack of...

http://www.bronzeagemin.com/miniatures_html/32MM/historical/Pirates/28mmPirate-set-1.htm

Unfortunately it's hard to see what they look like from the pics on the web page. There's some other potentially interesting things on their web page.


I was finally able to see in person were the halflings from Goblin Factory. I picked up two packs. I will post comparison photos in the halfling thread when I get time.


I tried to get a pack of Landsknect Looters from Artizan, but they were didn't have any.


One of the retailers was selling Otherworld figures, so I finally got to see their giant. AMAZING. Would have loved to get one, but it was a bit more than I wanted to spend.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 12, 2012, 10:53:20 AM

I bought a whole load of female minis from Bronze Age last year - David was very helpful and I got 30%

I am sure it was mentioned either earlier in this thread or in the Special Deals thread.

I quite like them.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
I am sure it was mentioned either earlier in this thread or in the Special Deals thread.


I feel confident that I've hit the point where it's a legitimate excuse to say that I can't remember everything mentioned in a 47 page long thread.  :wink:


One more thing about the Bronze Age booth, the painting on their display figures was first rate. That's what caught my eye in the first place.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 12, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
Not impressed by the Bronze age Imperial dwarves at all.
They are way too skinny and at 32mm they look like humans, not Dwarves.
Didn't see much at all onthe website that interested me enough to buy it but I will have a nosey if they have some stuff at Salute because seeing product in person and holding it in your hand is different to looking at pictures on the net.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 13, 2012, 04:34:38 AM
Well they have a very different look & morphology from the Marauder dwarfs (and by extension, the White Knight dwarfs) which are the closest comparison. Far different than GW in general. I like them, but I also like the Marauder/WK dwarfs.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 13, 2012, 07:43:31 PM
Yeah they are very different but for me 023, they are just too skinny for dwarves.
Now ok, it's fantasy, and who's to say some Dwarves aren't skinny, it's just I am kinda used to seeing Dwarves looking at least reasonably well rounded in their girth and I like them like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 14, 2012, 05:20:43 PM
 :::cheers:::

So Ratnik has moved onto Crossbows...in the puff and slash style.  These are preview pics only...they will be available through LAM in the future

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1203/d2/8441d7933a4c.jpg)

(http://s05.radikal.ru/i178/1203/e3/ddb9cb5358cc.jpg)

(http://s12.radikal.ru/i185/1203/7e/711c9b348b95.jpg)

(http://s54.radikal.ru/i145/1203/7b/fb15775e12b5.jpg)

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i641/1203/f7/3013de2bbc85.jpg)

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i614/1203/67/c3ee0034aaba.jpg)

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5b/a1b26d33c5c4.jpg)

(http://s017.radikal.ru/i435/1203/40/9f2eac21f86c.jpg)

I mourn the loss of my bank balance... :cry:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on March 14, 2012, 09:03:38 PM
This guy's puff and slash style is perfect. Those sleeves are so much more detailed than those made by GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 15, 2012, 02:06:20 AM
Likin' those crossbowmen! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 15, 2012, 03:21:06 AM
I like them. Really nice and over the top. But not in the GW "otherwise bland and crappy figure, but lets put a giant feather on it" over the top. These go all out, and with brilliant sculpting.

I wonder what material he's using to sculpt those.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 15, 2012, 11:00:15 AM
Wow they are seriously over the top but they are also compellingly lush.
Wonderful sculpting.
Love the halfling musician, fabulous.
Not sure if I'll invest in them but they are a work of art and far better puff and slash crossbowmen for a human period army than anything else I've seen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 15, 2012, 11:03:16 AM
These are fantastic!

I really like the Halfling and I will get these guys after my no mini buying ban! (most likely june but I may extend it to the rest of the year if I continue not painting much).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zak on March 15, 2012, 12:48:22 PM
wow thats some crazy puff...very nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 15, 2012, 01:48:58 PM
I'm working a team of his halberdmen right now and I can tell you they are VERY detailed and excellent sculpts...also some of the cleanest castings that I've seen.  And these look even better...they are a bit over the top but in a good way.  The only downside is that with this level of intricacy they take a long time to paint!  But man do they look good when done.

Cheers,

Blue

BTW...that is supposed to be a boy horn player instead of a hlfling...but I suppose it works fine either way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 17, 2012, 08:44:50 PM

The Dwarf Tales site is down.

Anyone - particularly our Polish friends - know anything?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 18, 2012, 09:51:40 PM
Oh my! Those are some sweet Ratnik minis! Just plain lovely!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 21, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
The Perry's ahve given a release date for the mounted men at arms. They will be available at Salute.

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/)

12 for £18 quid. Or only £16.20 at Maelstrom in a while is awesome value. I'm getting two minimum. Tempted to get 3 for the Charles to Bold figure.

Midaski, your going to Salute aren't you?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on March 21, 2012, 06:57:11 PM
Claymore Castings has some new archers coming forth:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mLNwvzDGyvc/T2oFjYi83fI/AAAAAAAABfI/hSsMM2Qw0Us/s640/archers1.bmp)

If you haven't seen their new medieval scots stuff yet, have a look:

http://www.claymorecastings.co.uk/

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gjtwP4ZLaqA/Tx3ISjAMq1I/AAAAAAAABVE/Tl_D9nEkjYI/s640/1.bmp)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1NBkVHIo2-0/Tz8oMQjqJPI/AAAAAAAABYo/7LWa3FVJlFU/s640/100_2594.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 23, 2012, 01:56:44 PM
They're nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 23, 2012, 08:32:50 PM
Agreed!  I wish I could get some historical gaming going in on y as...I'd buy a ton of these!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 24, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
The Perry's ahve given a release date for the mounted men at arms. They will be available at Salute.

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/ (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/1266406620/)


I was just going to post this! But too late.

I already have 15 Voland's Venetors (which is probably enough medieval knights for anyone), but I fancy some of these too.

Hilariously better value than any GW stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 25, 2012, 08:55:47 PM
Looks like a 3-box deal gets a free mini ................. and there I was going for just the one box, because of all those Fireforge Knights and Templars and Sergeants ....................


I understand Dave Thomas will have the Claymore Castings medieval Scots pictured above too ...............

My shopping list at Salute is growing daily ....................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 26, 2012, 07:41:58 PM
I was interested in something cjp posted in the B&P a while ago, and asked him about them - he pointed me to an old range called Fortress Figures, which he thought had died ..........

.......... well they had, but they have risen again.

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Home.html

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Products_of_the_Past/Products_of_the_Past.html

I've exchanged emails with Jeff Rodman and it appears he is back and planning remastering of some old moulds and new stuff.

Oh by the way htis is the Madponies picture that made me hunt

http://www.madponies.net/athena.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 27, 2012, 03:50:00 AM
I was interested in something cjp posted in the B&P a while ago, and asked him about them - he pointed me to an old range called Fortress Figures, which he thought had died ..........

.......... well they had, but they have risen again.

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Home.html

http://www.fortressfigures.com/Fortress_Figures/Products_of_the_Past/Products_of_the_Past.html

I've got a bunch of the Hareballs figures. Somewhere hidden away in my basement is a "Night of the Lepus (http://"http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/night_of_the_lepus/")" themed Hordes of the Things army, in which they were used as beast elements.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 30, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
Have you all seen this?

http://manorhouseworkshopmindstalkers.wordpress.com/

Mordheim! Mordheim! Mordheim!
Price is reasonable, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on March 31, 2012, 03:33:17 PM
Very nice and perfect for Mordheim.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on March 31, 2012, 09:25:54 PM
Very nice and perfect for Mordheim.

Indeed very nice, and certainly a good alternative to the 'lottery winners' version from Grand Manner...

http://www.grandmanner.co.uk/28mm_Convent_Bussaco_1810--product--301.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on April 01, 2012, 12:56:42 AM
I wonder what material he's using to sculpt those.
Brown stuff. And yes, these are what GW's models should look like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 01, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
a good alternative to the 'lottery winners' version from Grand Manner...
http://www.grandmanner.co.uk/28mm_Convent_Bussaco_1810--product--301.html

Lol  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MiB on April 01, 2012, 10:13:14 AM
Have you all seen this?

http://manorhouseworkshopmindstalkers.wordpress.com/

Mordheim! Mordheim! Mordheim!
Price is reasonable, too.
Oh my... I need a gaming room, hell I just need some room *lusts*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on April 01, 2012, 11:36:31 AM
 :::cheers:::

My Ratnik team has finished competeing in the Lead Painters League over at the LAF and now I can share them with you...they are just great figures

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/3ee68d67.jpg)

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 01, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
Have you all seen this?

(https://manorhouseworkshopmindstalkers.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/blog-sfondo-villa-base-dipinta-02.jpg?w=300&h=175)

Mordheim! Mordheim! Mordheim!
Price is reasonable, too.


Do we know any more about the material?

Material: Synto Stone (hard stone plaster similar  polyester resin )

I guess this is more sturdy than the hard foam buildings that I have seen?
The latter are quite light to pick up and feel so lightweight that I do not trust their durability.
Indeed the Weib seems to have got a hole in her one in her thread quite easily.


I'm not so convinced about the usage for Mordheim either - these are proper buildings for a town or manor scenery on a battle board, whereas Mordheim wants more damaged buildings for more access.




Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 01, 2012, 02:41:42 PM
Light weight isnt necessarily a bad thing if you are going to get a lot of use out of them, it makes them easier to carry when transporting them to clubs or a friends for gaming.
Heavier are much more inclined to damage themselves if they suffer the terror of being dropped. Resin smashes, cracks and splinters, and that takes a lot of work to put right.
The lightweight options are more likely to bounce and not break.
When packing the car/van the heavier options have to be padded out to stop them from landing on other more delicate items but you cant put them at the bottom in case they in turn get crushed by something heavy (like a box of juggernauts etc.)
I tend to buy the lighter options but not 'too' light. Definitely not flimsy.

I think for lift off roofing the heavier options tend to be better, but for necromunda and Mordheim the robust but lightweight options are better.

If you are going to keep your terrain at home permanently then the heavier options are just as good as any others.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on April 01, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
My Ratnik team has finished competeing in the Lead Painters League over at the LAF and now I can share them with you...they are just great figures

Too bad they are metal, because like all their minis, these are ace.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on April 01, 2012, 02:47:10 PM

Too bad they are metal, because like all their minis, these are ace.

That sir is blasphemy!

They are wonderful... You give them
A try anyway!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 01, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
I'm not so convinced about the usage for Mordheim either - these are proper buildings for a town or manor scenery on a battle board, whereas Mordheim wants more damaged buildings for more access.

Take a look at http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/medieval2.htm (http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/medieval2.htm)

(http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/mt2507ba.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 09, 2012, 11:48:44 AM
Badgers !
http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=65479
Does anybody know what scale these might be?

I'm hoping they are big enough to be a nice size to carry my Dwarf riders so I can have some Dwarf Badger cavalry.
They will have the westwind berserkers riding them, as I have removed some from my many razorback riders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 10, 2012, 11:11:09 AM
Some pictures of the recent 4Ground offerings they have released that I picked up at a do last month

(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/TFC.jpg)
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/Roman_Tower.jpg)
(http://www.napoleonicassociation.org/4ground/TownHall.jpg)

I used their render on the timber framed cottage and although not so keen when applying it, it made a difference when painting.

All three of them have the window and door add on sets (although the door isn't on the jail yet)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 10, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
Quote
All three of them have the window and door add on sets

Can you elaborate on that?

I have looked at their website, and the pictures, and I believe Colonel Bill's is stocking them at Salute.

However is it fairly flat or do the beams actually stand out a bit?
You mentioned 'render' so I assumed you added it between the beams?

I think on another forum I saw oneof their buildings where someone had added a 'balsa beam' on top of the existing beam - to give more depth.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 10, 2012, 02:35:22 PM
Quote
All three of them have the window and door add on sets

Can you elaborate on that?

I have looked at their website, and the pictures, and I believe Colonel Bill's is stocking them at Salute.

However is it fairly flat or do the beams actually stand out a bit?
You mentioned 'render' so I assumed you added it between the beams?

I think on another forum I saw oneof their buildings where someone had added a 'balsa beam' on top of the existing beam - to give more depth.
The beams actually sit back a little as they are etched out. This is actually more in keeping with some of the genuine buildings
(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/94/34/943487_29788ccc.jpg)
From my nerdy research when looking at painting stuff, it seems to be that in most cases the buidings with more prominent frames are mock Tudor, and the wood was added after the fact to make the building look Tudor.
Although I was contacted by a pub just outside Manchester who was looking at putting on a show to celebrate their 400th anniversary, and they have a genuine Tudor building with a mock tudor facade

Yes, I added base render between the beams to give a bit of texture to add depth when painting.

This one has been made from taking one of the base “silhoutte” (no etched grain) buildings and adding balsa to it. Thatch made from a towel
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roweller/witchhunter/IMG_1764.jpg)

Instructions for towel thatch here
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?ev2p4feg19lsf21 (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?ev2p4feg19lsf21)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on April 10, 2012, 09:37:03 PM
Probably already mentioned, but I like them  :-)
http://store.warlordgames.com/thirty-years-war-swedish-regiment-5111-p.asp
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 11, 2012, 10:48:24 PM
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/65143/sku-down/65143

I'm thinking this might find its way into a few armies unhappy with the size of the new Gryphon . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on April 12, 2012, 02:13:57 AM
I'm not sure if Warploque has made it up here yet, be he's launching off on his human race for his own fantasy world, and some folks may be interested in what he's working on:


(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04270.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04269.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04265.jpg)

Not to mention his halflings:

(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04261.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04262.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04263.jpg)
(http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv191/WarplockM/DSC04264.jpg)

www.warploqueminiatures.co.uk
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 12, 2012, 11:02:38 AM
Some really nice Ogres in here but I guess you can use some of the models for Empire too

http://titan-forge.com/ (http://titan-forge.com/)

http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_bloodsail_island_bloodsail_island_warband_set (http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_bloodsail_island_bloodsail_island_warband_set)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 12, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
Nice ogres, not to my taste but nice nonetheless.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 13, 2012, 06:54:04 AM
I didn't think starting an entire new thread on this would be a good idea but does anyone know of any alternative models that would work to complete some old dogs of war units? specifically Riccos republican guard and the alacanti fellowship? Thanks  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on April 13, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php

They do loads of ranges - anyone bought their minis?

Yes. I'm building my 40K Tallarn army, using their modern-warfare Afghan / Taliban minis as the basic troops.
I've even given some of them plasma guns.
You'll see them end of April.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 13, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
I didn't think starting an entire new thread on this would be a good idea but does anyone know of any alternative models that would work to complete some old dogs of war units? specifically Riccos republican guard and the alacanti fellowship? Thanks  :::cheers:::

Midaski is your man for that stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 13, 2012, 07:29:42 PM
I didn't think starting an entire new thread on this would be a good idea but does anyone know of any alternative models that would work to complete some old dogs of war units? specifically Riccos republican guard and the alacanti fellowship? Thanks  :::cheers:::

Both are tricky.

First, there weren't a whole lot of pikemen with that degree of armour - especial the complete, full plate of Riccos. Additionally, the Alcatani helmets are a bit a historic. You might be able to recreate them by using some armoured late 15th century pikemen, but swapping the heads with some ancient greek hoplites. As for Riccos, maybe converting some other heavy infantry (dismounted knights) to use pikes instead of the usual varieties of "greatweapons."

You might look at The Assault Group (TAG) and Front Rank for some figures for conversion.

TAG also does fairly convincing replacements for the DoW Lost Legion pikemen, IIRC.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 14, 2012, 12:49:20 AM
Thanks for the lead! If I find anything of note I'll post it on this site and DOW online in case other people would like to know.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 14, 2012, 02:49:05 AM
These guys might do:

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/mew003.jpg)

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=198&cat=5&sub=16&page=1

Only 4 poses, but could supplement a unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 14, 2012, 04:41:48 AM
Thanks Timbor!
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=2528&cat=124&page=2
these ones here could work for Marksmen unit fillers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 14, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
I think I would look at the Perrys WotR stuff for Ricco's as well

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KHFhY1koJCa5dk.&w=540&h=190.47272727273&f=jpg&q=95&hash=e03fafe9cef6a8fc97b2d3624e8f6883)

WR14 Men at Arms / Knights


(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KHlpZyq3sFhqqDYo9Q.&w=540&h=197.48571428571&f=jpg&q=95&hash=1836273bc0aa421c15151304099aaa89)

WR15 Men at Arms / Knights

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_34

and I think there are a few heavily armoured bodies on their plastic WotR kits
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KGwU59pmqyAvA..&w=540&h=434.94545454545&f=jpg&q=95&hash=22be82e837b7ea6eddad3bf88a4d0a2f)

That's one of the sprues, but you can have a hunt around for the others on their site.

I do really like TAG too - they're Italian stuff has very much the flavour of GW DoW units like Marksmen of Miragliano, Bronzino's crew.

As to the Alcatani fellowship I agree with the earlier suggestion - they are a mix of 'eras' so armoured bodies and use some more ancient style heads - try Warlor Games and their Immortal plastics, or Wargames Factory and their Amazons/Greeks. You'll probably get the pikes too with the plastic kits.





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on April 14, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
You could use these heads for the alcatani felowship

http://www.spikeybits.com/servlet/the-6333/Scibor-cln--Spartan-Heads/Detail
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 14, 2012, 07:04:10 PM
Wow thanks. I never thought I would get this much help. I will have to post pictures of how it turns out once I actually finish making them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 16, 2012, 10:46:23 PM
While it is a different scale to what we do normally, a lot of the stuff from The Lost Battalion is really nice - I recently ordered some 90mm heads for my Demigryph Spinxes, and they arrived today. They are really lovely sculpts.

His website is down for maintenance right now, otherwise I would totally link to it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on April 18, 2012, 05:41:05 AM
http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=1062460989

Take a look!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 18, 2012, 05:55:28 AM
I am grateful to the Perry miniatures company for introducing more cheap plastic miniatures into the historical ranges and helping, along with other small-ish companies, to break the expensive stranglehold that Foundry had over the historical 28mm market for quite a while.
Interestingly Foundry are still expensive and their new ranges are not up to their standard of old.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 18, 2012, 02:32:48 PM
I am grateful to the Perry miniatures company for introducing more cheap plastic miniatures into the historical ranges and helping, along with other small-ish companies, to break the expensive stranglehold that Foundry had over the historical 28mm market for quite a while.
Interestingly Foundry are still expensive and their new ranges are not up to their standard of old.

Totally agree.

I also appreciate that many of them are former Foundry sculptors who are still turning out the same high quality figures, but have now "cut out the middle man" and have more control over their lines. Everybody wins!





Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 18, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
Those Perry men-at-arms are lovely models; I expect to see a LOT of those in Empire armies!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on April 18, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
http://store.warlordgames.com/star-fort-7769-p.asp
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 21, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
Anybody checked out these guys before, I saw them at Salute today and they were unbelievably cheap.
Also the product weighs next to nothing and would be awesome for carrying and transporting but check out the prices... :-o :icon_eek:

http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=f
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 22, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
I've seen their site before, they have some nice stuff.  I keep meaning to order some of their island sets to use with uncharted seas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 22, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
Hah Bingo! Thats exactly what I was thinking. Vety cheap and lightweight and nice looking islands, can't go wrong.  8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 22, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
i've got some. a great base to terrain but you need to invest some time on them to make them look good
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 22, 2012, 04:20:53 PM
Yep thats the trade off, but if you have the materials and as you say the time then it's a very cost effective investment.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 22, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
I saw them - I just feel that they are a bit too lightweight.
I cannot see them standing up to too much heavy treatment, and maybe the inverstment in paint and flock time is risky.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 22, 2012, 08:27:04 PM
Hah Bingo! Thats exactly what I was thinking. Vety cheap and lightweight and nice looking islands, can't go wrong.  8-)

That and the islands are specifically designed for US.  I was linked to the amera site from the spartan games blog a while back.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 23, 2012, 06:04:05 AM
I saw them - I just feel that they are a bit too lightweight.
I cannot see them standing up to too much heavy treatment, and maybe the inverstment in paint and flock time is risky.
They need more than paint and flock. They need the full make over. Plastikard, bits, layers of gravel and textured paint to make them table worthy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
I am grateful to the Perry miniatures company for introducing more cheap plastic miniatures into the historical ranges and helping, along with other small-ish companies, to break the expensive stranglehold that Foundry had over the historical 28mm market for quite a while.
Interestingly Foundry are still expensive and their new ranges are not up to their standard of old.

They did have Rob Baker sculpting.

Which made you think, why pay Foundry prices for 1st Corp quality?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 23, 2012, 04:12:05 PM
I got some loose Foundry Swashbuckler Dwarfs on Saturday and they really are quite nice and imperial .... they must have been sculpted a while back then.    :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2012, 04:13:22 PM
I got some loose Foundry Swashbuckler Dwarfs on Saturday and they really are quite nice and imperial .... they must have been sculpted a while back then.    :engel:

It depends. How many elbows do the arms have?  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 23, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
I got some loose Foundry Swashbuckler Dwarfs on Saturday and they really are quite nice and imperial .... they must have been sculpted a while back then.    :engel:

It depends. How many elbows do the arms have?  :icon_mrgreen:


(http://www.foundryfantasy.com/_images/thumbs/BHSBD1_1200x800.png?prodid=7935)

The two models to the left of the word Swashbuckler, and the one with the halberd, just above the sword guy's buckler - and then the sword one with the blue hood above the "ASHBU" -
 I had one of the lantern guy and two each of the others - I think they'll fit into my Imperial dwarf units quite nicely and for about 50p each.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
I forgot about the dwarf fatties.

At 50p each they are quite afordablethough and they are nice regardless of the anatomy - apart from the halberdier in the cream coat - there's a special place in hell reserved for that one.

I still love the old Marauder Imperial Dwarfs - they were cool.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 23, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
I too love the old marauder Dwarfs, and I love the Foundry fatties as well because for the longest time they were the only way of getting Dwarf Halberdiers. For me some of the Foundry ranges lack character but the Dwarf swashbucklers have character in spades.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 23, 2012, 09:27:53 PM
I still think they look like little bearded spheres with with chimp arms, and feet but no legs.  :-P

I will give you all that they have character. More so than some of the more recent figures. But I just wish they weren't so... spherical.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 24, 2012, 05:12:53 AM
Zero they are Dwarfs, they are not spherical they are ... *ahem*  rotund  :icon_eek: :-D :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 24, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
Low centre of gravity is all...they are fun figures thats for sure
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 24, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
Those Dwarves are really nice Midaski.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 24, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/media/catalog/product/s/m/smog39_2.jpg)

alternative Witch hunter?

Those Smog! miniatures from Smart max, there is some nice steam punk in there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 24, 2012, 04:35:13 PM
Nice sculpt, very steam punk
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 24, 2012, 07:14:46 PM
That is very nice. What scale, though? I thought (and I may be wrong) that line was a larger/odd scale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 25, 2012, 05:50:53 AM
You are right 1/35...damn.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 25, 2012, 01:46:52 PM
The sculpt looks great, but whoever painted that is amazing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 25, 2012, 02:48:47 PM
The rumour mill says that...
Mantic are going to be releasing not one, not two, but three different Human armies and the make up is believed to be...

An Army of Light - good guys, angelic aspect etc.

An Army of Nature - Druidic influence
An Army of Darkness - Chaos cultists?

The Army of Light is likely to be the candidate to interest the Empire collectors...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 26, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
A question to the worthy contributors of this thread but I am looking for some japanese/oriental type figures riding something like Foo Dogs/Kirin/Temple Lions etc.

Does anyone know of such figures available in 25/28mm?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 26, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
Years ago (late 80's) Citadel did (I think)

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(http://www.solegends.com/misc/east89flytemplex.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 26, 2012, 02:17:45 PM
Yeah I found them, and they are pretty much exactly what I am after...just I need them a bit more, well, available now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 26, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
Okay, a bit fugly, but it could also be a dodgy paint job
http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=121_147_148&products_id=1515&osCsid=0a927a2438a7424efc14c8866cf5546a (http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/product_info.php?cPath=121_147_148&products_id=1515&osCsid=0a927a2438a7424efc14c8866cf5546a)
(http://www.blackhat.co.uk/online_shop/images/DK32.jpg)

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They also have Sandy, Pigsy, Monkey, and Tripitaka in the same range...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 26, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
They look kinda spot on.

I'd have liked them a little larger (to represent Demigriffon Knights) but hey, beggars cant be choosers.

Much appreciated Donnachaidh
  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 26, 2012, 03:34:01 PM
Anybody checked out these guys before, I saw them at Salute today and they were unbelievably cheap.
Also the product weighs next to nothing and would be awesome for carrying and transporting but check out the prices... :-o :icon_eek:


I bought one of their pieces:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i1tIQzMETEc/Tjp-Z_HURTI/AAAAAAAAAfE/J7Rf1WSZbt0/s1600/IMG_3208.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/08/amera-ruin.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/08/amera-ruin.html)

Didn't take too long as I obviously didn't do too much to spruce it up as I want to keep it generic enough for use other than a fantasy setting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: scarletsquig on April 26, 2012, 03:45:42 PM
That Amera ruin turned out really nicely, think I'll make an order for some of their stuff sometime.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: strollinthewoods on April 26, 2012, 04:14:15 PM
My future wife in.  eh.. I mean engineer :blush:

(http://www.guildofharmony.com/gallery/automaton/greens/steampunk_tinker_belle.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on April 26, 2012, 04:53:51 PM
Are those Amera things good then? I am really tempted by the river as the sections are really cheap and it would save a lot of effort.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 26, 2012, 05:31:29 PM
Are those Amera things good then? I am really tempted by the river as the sections are really cheap and it would save a lot of effort.

To elaborate on the remarks I made earlier they remind me of those plastic inserts in packaging that hold various components in their own little sections. The plastic is pretty thin, - it's not far off the sort of plastic tub you would get such food as coleslaw, creme fraiche, or yoghurt in, but as Fr1day suggested it may be become stronger with paint, pva glue and flock.

I am not keen as I think I would forget and just put too much pressure on a piece or something heavy on it, only to hear a crack!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 27, 2012, 12:50:02 AM
Are those Amera things good then? I am really tempted by the river as the sections are really cheap and it would save a lot of effort.


The plastic is about 1mm thick and not as fragile as a yogurt pot.

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/07/amera-castle-ruins.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/07/amera-castle-ruins.html)

I don't think it will crack if you put some weight on it, but it may bend and crack your paint.

Like I said they are quite reasonably-priced, so you may just want to buy a piece and see for yourself if they are worth investing in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 27, 2012, 02:54:12 PM
They are light but strong and they sure won't crack into a hundred pieces if they are dropped. They also won't chip if they are knocked like resin terrain does.
I'm going to buy a bunch of them and see how they look painted and flocked because the price is so unbelievably cheap compared to buying heavy resin terrain.
I have four hobbit holes I adore in resin but they are heavy and would shatter if there was a mishap and they were £25 pounds each.  :icon_eek:
I could get ten of the Amera pieces for less than that and enough change to buy the paint and the flock etc.
I love the fact they are light as well because I travel to play games around the country and it's going to be great to do it with cheap lightweight terrain that can stack in the same single box.
I'll report back to let you know how I get on. :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: _JC_ on April 28, 2012, 03:38:23 AM
Does anyone have some good suggestions for some swordsmen.  It seems most places only have pikes/halberds.  Also the cheaper the better
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 28, 2012, 03:52:56 AM
Does anyone have some good suggestions for some swordsmen.  It seems most places only have pikes/halberds.  Also the cheaper the better
There was a company called Zvezda some years ago that did a game called Ring of Rule IIRC they had a plastic kit that had swordsmen. I'm sure if you looked around on the internet you could turn up something.
Also welcome to the Forums!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 28, 2012, 07:07:45 AM
Does anyone have some good suggestions for some swordsmen.  It seems most places only have pikes/halberds.  Also the cheaper the better

The Zvezda Ring of Rule Royal Infantry is an option:

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=27656.0 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=27656.0)

but they can be hard to find or the postage can be expensive (at least to where I am).

I'm planning to use Empire swordsmen arms on Perry Miniatures WOTR/Mercenaries bodies.

Mirliton is often mentioned:

http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=swordsmen&cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans (http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=swordsmen&cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans)

as are The Assault Group:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=1 (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 28, 2012, 07:20:54 AM
Zvezda make some very good gear but they can be a little bit small.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 28, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Zvezda make some very good gear but they can be a little bit small.

Their Ring of Rule line is actually 28mm rather than 1/72, so it may be closer to GW scale. They do look like more effort to put together though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 28, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Well thats good news about the scale increase, you should be good to go in that case.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 28, 2012, 09:43:46 PM
My future wife in.  eh.. I mean engineer :blush:

(http://www.guildofharmony.com/gallery/automaton/greens/steampunk_tinker_belle.jpg)

Whoa. Hot. I have been pondering over that Guild of Harmony stuff for quite some time though, they have some very detailed sculpts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 29, 2012, 01:47:43 AM


Wow, that was an old thread. In all that time, I have painted ONE of the Zvezda Royal Infantry figures & used it for an article in the Treachery & Greed newsletters.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/TnG/crossbwpav.jpg)

It's a decent figure, but not as nice as GW or Perry. However, they were dirt cheap -- or at least they were before the disappeared off the market.

I'm still disappointed I've never been able to find the elf sorceress in the swan boat, and regret not picking up the box of pegasi.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on April 30, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
I still think they look like little bearded spheres with with chimp arms, and feet but no legs.  :-P

I will give you all that they have character. More so than some of the more recent figures. But I just wish they weren't so... spherical.

I kind of agree with you. They are characterful models, but I thought they just didn't fit with the Marauder ones, the proportions being too different. I got rid of mine when I decided to commission my own range of landsknecht dwarfs. Of course, your tolerance level for variations in size and style may vary and there are a couple really cool models in the range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 30, 2012, 03:17:53 PM
Dear God, new Foundry adventurers - they are so bad they suck and blow.

http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/single_packs/adventurers/ (http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/single_packs/adventurers/)

I can appreciate the thinking behind them...
Quote
Remember when your collection of Fantasy Models consisted of loads of Wizards, Thieves, Fighters, Paladins and Clerics, not to mention Female adventurers in fur Bikinis?
Well harping back to the good old days, well here is your chance to get hold of a load of CLASSIC style adventurer models.

Except the old figures were still better than these hideous abominations on the whole, and they had more character.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2012, 03:42:57 PM
OMG.  :ph34r:

Dropping from the best figures money could buy to some of the worst figures I've seen in 20 years. I just don't understand why they are doing this to themselves.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 30, 2012, 04:05:57 PM
Οt΄s a shame, really. On a side note; I΄m considering buying a load of their renaissance Ogres but I keep hearing bad things about their deliveries.
Can I trust Foundry? Or can anyone tell me if some other company are selling the Foundry fantasy ranges?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2012, 04:33:54 PM
Caliver book is in the UK.

http://www.caliverbooks.com/

I've ordered from them (and I'm in the US) and been happy with the delivery.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 30, 2012, 04:53:25 PM
Thanks! Not many pictures, but that`ll do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 30, 2012, 05:53:07 PM
Caliver book is in the UK.

http://www.caliverbooks.com/

I've ordered from them (and I'm in the US) and been happy with the delivery.

They still have their oroginal shop in Southend, Essex, and they have a new store in Nottingham as well.
Dave is a nice guy and he generally shows up at quite a few conventions in the UK as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on April 30, 2012, 06:03:41 PM
They are pretty terrible

By that I mean really, really terrible.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on April 30, 2012, 06:39:35 PM
Foundry are making me lose the will to live. Luckily I can find solice in the bible:
Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.

Honestly, the blobbyman I made from blue-tac and a paperclip during my coffee break today has more right being casted than this crud.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 30, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
Thanks! Not many pictures, but that`ll do.

Just look around the Foundry web page, write don what you want then order from Caliver. If its not listed on the Caliver website, I'd ask -- they may be able to fill you order anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 30, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35.

I see what you did there :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on April 30, 2012, 10:06:56 PM
OMG.  :ph34r:

Dropping from the best figures money could buy to some of the worst figures I've seen in 20 years. I just don't understand why they are doing this to themselves.

I would say.... they are...  uninspiring. :engel:
Who sculpted those?
Has Brian Ansell taken up sculpting?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 30, 2012, 11:44:05 PM
Some of them are pretty bad - the female adventurers would top my list, but some of the others are kinda neat.  I like the armoured knights.  Not enough to pay their price though.  I would say they are at least better then their new 'condottiere' range of minis.

I also agree that the renaissance orcs/ogres of theirs are fantastic.  I got a few from foundry directly without much of a problem.  I had them replace one orc I got that had a bad miscast.  It took them a while and a couple overseas calls to the UK for me to get them to send a new one, but they did.  Also, I had ordered a blister of ancients figures, and only 7 came in the pack when the webstore said 8.  They sent me a whole replacement pack for just the one miniature!  (Though the replacement pack had 7 minis instead of 8 as well  :icon_lol:)  Otherwise my orders came smoothly from the UK to Canada.  I just wait for them to have a 20-30% off sale and then buy enough for free shipping.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 30, 2012, 11:51:19 PM
Also... just looking at Caliver's site, their foundry orcs are more expensive in GBP than the foundry website.  The ogre desperadoes (orcb001) are 25gbp from Caliver and 16.5gbp from foundry.  The foundry USD price is about $34, which is cheaper than the conversion of 25 gbp (roughly $40).  So, if you are interested in the renaissance ogres and orcs, I suggest waiting for a foundry sale, then either buy enough to get free shipping or buy a book or something with the ones you like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 01, 2012, 01:23:22 AM
Who sculpted those?
Has Brian Ansell taken up sculpting?

Didn't he actually do some sculpting back in the early days?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 01, 2012, 02:00:11 AM
They are rather expensive, and I while I can't quite put my finger on what is wrong with them, there is something wrong with them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 01, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
Also... just looking at Caliver's site, their foundry orcs are more expensive in GBP than the foundry website.  The ogre desperadoes (orcb001) are 25gbp from Caliver and 16.5gbp from foundry.  The foundry USD price is about $34, which is cheaper than the conversion of 25 gbp (roughly $40).  So, if you are interested in the renaissance ogres and orcs, I suggest waiting for a foundry sale, then either buy enough to get free shipping or buy a book or something with the ones you like.

Do they have sales on a regular basis?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on May 01, 2012, 01:26:15 PM
Who sculpted those?
Has Brian Ansell taken up sculpting?

Didn't he actually do some sculpting back in the early days?

He sculpted the Asgard range and early Citadel. I found an old citadel figure the other day (year) with his name on th underside of the base to show he sculpted it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 02, 2012, 02:45:50 AM
Also... just looking at Caliver's site, their foundry orcs are more expensive in GBP than the foundry website.  The ogre desperadoes (orcb001) are 25gbp from Caliver and 16.5gbp from foundry.  The foundry USD price is about $34, which is cheaper than the conversion of 25 gbp (roughly $40).  So, if you are interested in the renaissance ogres and orcs, I suggest waiting for a foundry sale, then either buy enough to get free shipping or buy a book or something with the ones you like.

Do they have sales on a regular basis?

Foundry seems to have a sale a few times a year.  Last Christmas their entire range went on sale for 20% off, then 25% off, then 30% off for a few days around Christmas and boxing day.  They also had a 20% off sale earlier this year.  You have to order about $100 worth of stuff to get free shipping though.

I did recheck the caliver site, and for some reason the mercenary orcs (not ogres) are priced the same as the foundry site for GBP - 10GBP for a pack of 3.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 02, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Foundry are constantly on sale. Brian Ansell is in a hole of his own making.
I get spam from them every week notifying a new special or another sale or another discount.
Not interested.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on May 02, 2012, 03:37:32 PM
Especially when there sale prices just make them over priced
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 03, 2012, 01:46:24 PM
On this subject (I specifically found this thread to comment); is it a bad sign when Foundry offer me (the guy going a Greek-themed Empire army) 20% off their prices for Greek miniatures and I still go "Meh" after looking at them?

They just aren't very good - maybe it is the painting, but there is so much there which simply isn't nicely sculpted. The models are very heavy and thick; I can't think of a better description. They don't have elegance to them. One or two are nice, but not the majority of them.

And, in metal, they are too expensive for what they are - when there are plastic alternatives around for a fraction of the price which are easier to convert etc.

I would have been tempted by some of the female Greek "civilians" for unit fillers etc. (as priestesses etc.) but they all look like men in unconvincing drag . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 04, 2012, 10:15:28 AM
Their new Greek mythology range ranges from really bad over mediocre to just about passable. However, their slightly older historical "World of the Greeks" range, which also has some mythological characters in it, is sculpted by Steve Saleh and still very good. Of course, Steve Saleh is now sculpting an excellent new Greek range for Gorgon Studios as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 04, 2012, 01:08:16 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pisjc2PHjME/T6O76Efi6VI/AAAAAAAAAF0/JJTmn0pNCOI/s1600/IMG_5574.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 04, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
Of course, Steve Saleh is now sculpting an excellent new Greek range for Gorgon Studios as well.

http://www.gorgon-studios.com/

These guys?

Thanks for the tip - I'll take a look.

EDIT : Thanks for the tip doubly so!

Went there, clicked on "Mythic World" and this is what I see! http://www.gorgon-studios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=10

The Oracle at Delphi! Which is exactly what I am patterning my Luminark after!

You win one free internet, sir!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 04, 2012, 05:25:49 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Pisjc2PHjME/T6O76Efi6VI/AAAAAAAAAF0/JJTmn0pNCOI/s1600/IMG_5574.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2012/05/perry-wotr-infantry-with-gw-arms.html)
What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 04, 2012, 06:34:08 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.


Those work pretty well!


Their new Greek mythology range ranges from really bad over mediocre to just about passable. However, their slightly older historical "World of the Greeks" range, which also has some mythological characters in it, is sculpted by Steve Saleh and still very good. Of course, Steve Saleh is now sculpting an excellent new Greek range for Gorgon Studios as well.

Years ago I had the pleasure of painting a commission for a huge Foundry Greek army. While I realize those figures (the Saleh ones) arent to everyone's taste, I thought they were a pleasure to paint and looked great en masse.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 04, 2012, 08:52:03 PM
Went there, clicked on "Mythic World" and this is what I see! http://www.gorgon-studios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=10

The Oracle at Delphi! Which is exactly what I am patterning my Luminark after!

It's a great model, I have one too. So many possible applications too. :happy:

They also make a good witchhunter in the "convention models" section:
(http://www.gorgon-studios.com/images/other/acon002.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 05, 2012, 09:18:33 AM

What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?
[/quote]

I only bough the sword arms because the Perry sets didn't come with them.

But looking at the sprues, the polearm arms have hands about the same as the sword arms, so they should fit.

http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162 (http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 05, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
They also make a good witchhunter in the "convention models" section:

I quite like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 05, 2012, 08:04:14 PM

What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?

I only bough the sword arms because the Perry sets didn't come with them.

But looking at the sprues, the polearm arms have hands about the same as the sword arms, so they should fit.

http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162 (http://www.fromboxtobattle.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=125&t=162)
[/quote]

So how wide is the body of the perry WOTR bodies compared to the gw statetroops?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 06, 2012, 02:15:56 PM


So how wide is the body of the perry WOTR bodies compared to the gw statetroops?
[/quote]

The Perry bodies are 66.5mm wide at the shoulders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 06, 2012, 08:22:59 PM


So how wide is the body of the perry WOTR bodies compared to the gw statetroops?

The Perry bodies are 66.5mm wide at the shoulders.
[/quote]
66.5mm?
that's 6.65cm
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 07, 2012, 12:45:10 AM
dies are 66.5mm wide at the shoulders.
[/quote]
66.5mm?
that's 6.65cm
[/quote]

Sorry, sticky key - it's 6.5mm.  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on May 07, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
Fantastic mini for Rufus

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Warlord-Hrolfgad-Loftsaddle-Dwarf-Griffon-Rider.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 07, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Owl-griffon!

Amazing.  :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 07, 2012, 09:25:38 PM
The owl-griffin is OK, the dwarf rider is odd looking. But now you've made me track down the model & I'm looking at the rest of the Reaper Warlord line....

The Nefsokar range seems to have some potential alternatives for Al Muktar's DoW.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Nefsokar/latest

Some other interesting figures in that line as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 07, 2012, 10:23:00 PM
I just remembered I need to get this now

(http://www.arcaneminiatures.co.uk/images/hordes-miniatures/PIP75039.jpg)


desperately
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 08, 2012, 01:04:48 AM

The Nefsokar range seems to have some potential alternatives for Al Muktar's DoW.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Nefsokar/latest

Some other interesting figures in that line as well.

Between the Nefsokar and Wargods of Aegyptus, you can have a TK army or a Khemri BB team.  :icon_biggrin:

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on May 08, 2012, 09:14:29 PM

Between the Nefsokar and Wargods of Aegyptus, you can have a TK army or a Khemri BB team.  :icon_biggrin:

http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.com/2011/09/ra-team.html)

Or a nice Mordheim warband.  :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 09, 2012, 07:13:35 PM
REALLY nice-looking gryphon Lo, click! (http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/Mythical+Realms+Griffin/part_number=800829/740.0.1.1.33308.72997.0.0.0?pp=12&)

(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/e875bbdb875ebfa2c5d512e74f7d1a7c.jpg?1326316732)

I've seen it in the plastic - it is softer than model plastic, but would be firm enough if pinned to a good base (such as one of Tiny's (http://www.tinyworlds.co.uk/bases/resin-bases/square-bases/100mm-x-50mm-rocky-slate-chariot-resin-display-base)!)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 10, 2012, 03:27:44 AM
I own that griffin, he is cheap and huge. I have him based up for Storm of Magic, nice model. I have toyed with the idea of a mount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 10, 2012, 06:00:25 AM
...is cheap and huge.

Resisting temptation for imature "your mom joke..."  :engel:


I have him based up for Storm of Magic, nice model. I have toyed with the idea of a mount.

Strange, that's the same brand as the elephants I just bought. I glanced at the fantasy section, but didn't pay enough attention. I will have to look at it again. They're cheaper than the Schleich toys, too.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 10, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
I have fondled their cheap and huge monsters at Jo-Ann's house of excited women - they are very good indeed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 13, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Let me post em....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 13, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/WallyTWest/133691228477452.jpg?t=1336912224)

The only problem is the stance on some of the monsters can be wide. I think the griffins legs land about 3" apart. But for the purposes of using these minis for Storm of Magic or informal awesome gaming they are outstanding. (and they come pre-painted!) They have some other monsters that I thought looked awesome.... If I was going to do it all over I would have done the mountain dragon and chimera instead of the griffin and green dragon.

An empire army with a pair of 12$ hydras is still an awesome idea....  :icon_lol:

The Chimera is Huge and not that bad a sculpt.
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/9401182d206fb012418bf4d43b19809b.jpg?1326316733)
This hydra is frankly amazing.
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/309deac7a20f559ee84e6375d433bf1e.jpg?1333256813)
I love this dragon so much!
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/740/product_image/80d6dc396d1bb34e3a29b63544eb33ba.jpg?1333256772)

They come pre-painted and look freaking awesome based. Most local players freak out when they see the bulk of the Dragon or the Cyclops, I have received lots of complements when I include them in Storm of Magic games. I really do recommend going this route. With a little bit of work the Griffin would work fine as a new empire mount.

I thought I would post two of my own favorite miniature manufacturers as of late.

(http://freeboardgamesnow.com/images/products/thumb/DEAL0578.jpg)
http://www.megaminis.com/
Mega Minis-
Great company and its run by this really nice guy named Dave. Honestly not the best sculpts in the business... but at the same time Im not the best painter on the Internets either. Most sculpts are under 2 dollars, and the Scribe, Merchant, Thief and Priest between the Swordsman and Ogre are all mega mini sculpts. If you are looking for a few camp followers and don't want to spend 200+ dollars I would go here... I have a baggage train for my 1000pt army that I have from here, perhaps I will paint it soon and post.

(http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/images/dungerdon_barb_full_col_3b.jpg)
http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/
Ramshackle Games-
I saw this thing painted up like a week ago in Concord NH... it may be the miniature that converts me over to playing a chaos army as it would be a wonderful centerpiece. Besides that there are some really ugly sculpts and vehicles in this range, there are also some gnarly totally awesome things hidden all over the place. Check this range out its crazy! Sculpt scale is all over the place but in my experience it hardly matters.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 15, 2012, 04:21:02 AM
And when people don't respond on this particular thread it either means you where way the hell off base or they are busy buying models...

hello? did I kill the conversation?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 15, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
hello? did I kill the conversation?

Urrrggghghhkkkkk...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 15, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
Yup.... killed it.

I hereby promise to never "wallypost" in the "Other Manufacturers" thread again. Sorry Guys.
 :|
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 15, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.
IMG
What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?

The guy third from the viewer's right is a Perry with GW halberd.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/PerryHalberdiers.jpg)
Some others may be, but he definitely is.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on May 15, 2012, 03:51:20 PM
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I stuck Empire State troops arms onto Perry WOTR bodies.
IMG
What do they look like with the halberds/spears from gw on them?

The guy third from the viewer's right is a Perry with GW halberd.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/padrissimus/PerryHalberdiers.jpg)
Some others may be, but he definitely is.
Thanks, third guy back from the rank on the left is a gw halberd wielder too
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 15, 2012, 05:06:32 PM
And when people don't respond on this particular thread it either means you where way the hell off base or they are busy buying models...

hello? did I kill the conversation?


Or sick. And packing up to move.

I've been eyeing-up some of the other Safari figures. Considering the cheap price, they're pretty decent. As soon as I'm settled in the new house I'm anxious to get busy on my demi-not-griffins. Curious how convertible the material is, how well paint & putty will stick to it, etc.


I've bought some of the Mega-Minis animals. The pack of dogs is great, and they're definitely the go-to source if you're building a penguin swarm.  :-D I haven't tried any of their humans/humanoids yet. Maybe I should look into some of their civilians.


I picked up a Ramshackle figure a few years ago, and got a free sample of a mini version of that squig-like thing. (I gave it to a friend who has an O&G army.) The figures are OK. I was disappointed that there is a bit of a mold line where the two halves don't quite align. With all of that drapery, it will be hard to hide. Still haven't painted him. What do you think -- witch hunter?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/hist08/rsg4.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/hist08/rsg1.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/hist08/rsg2.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 15, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
With a good paint job , it's doable. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on May 15, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
And when people don't respond on this particular thread it either means you where way the hell off base or they are busy buying models...

hello? did I kill the conversation?

This thread is a little sporadic in posting.  People tend to post new stuff they find, a few people say "those look great, thanks" and then the thread quiets down until the next new pics are posted.  It's not you.  :-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 16, 2012, 05:46:18 PM
hello? did I kill the conversation?
This thread is a little sporadic in posting.  People tend to post new stuff they find, a few people say "those look great, thanks" and then the thread quiets down until the next new pics are posted.  It's not you.  :-)

Ignore him. It *is* you.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 25, 2012, 03:49:00 AM


(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=YtagzcmV6KHFhY1moJCa5dk.&w=540&h=238.37142857143&f=jpg&q=95&hash=bcb605679d8e6f71f562c0857aaab322)

http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=2723

Perry brothers supply liquid courage for your troops! I see an Imperial Brew Train on the horizon...

edit: Ah! Some Italian figures as well... http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index.php?cPath=23_64

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 25, 2012, 02:25:01 PM
Very nice, put that one on the Perry's tab.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 26, 2012, 01:08:49 AM
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Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 26, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
Hmmm... good time to pick up more Camel riders for my Crusades period Army of Islam.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on May 26, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
Most of their models look like GW's did 25 years ago. Their Bretonnians and Dwarves are alright though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 26, 2012, 12:22:33 PM
I think that's part of the charm though, for those of us who like that period.  You want some old school savage orc units?  Theirs look like they would mix in nicely.  Their dwarf greatbeard warriors have a nice imperial feel, and fit in pretty nice with the marauder dwarf imperial ironbreakers and hammerers.  Some of the figures are just awful, but lots are quite nice.

For the price, their historicals are pretty sweet too IMO.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 26, 2012, 02:03:11 PM
I think that's part of the charm though, for those of us who like that period.


That is exactly right.
I much prefer that look to the angular plastics coming out of GW's CAD machines.

Some of the figures are just awful, but lots are quite nice.

Agreed they do have some shockers in their catalogue, but then you can say that about any figure manufacturer.
Their big hydra is an excellent model and very well priced.

For the price, their historicals are pretty sweet too IMO.

Those are what I particularly like from Black tree, they mix in well into the back ranks of units of other more expensive and slightly better sculpted historicals, but they also provide pose variation within a unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 26, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Not to be a wet blanket, but many years back when they had a big sale there was a lot of unhappiness amongst members of the TMP over the time it took for their orders to arrive and how BTD responded to that. I'm not saying don't order, but it's probably reasonable to expect a long turnover time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 26, 2012, 03:04:02 PM
I have bought a few times off them in the last couple of years or so, and they have got better - they still take anything from 2-4 weeks, but their operation is split across Texas in the USA, Cornwall in England, and they use Grendel in Scotland to spin some of the minis.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: WallyTWest on May 27, 2012, 04:46:01 AM
2 years ago I ordered some dwarves for my birthday when I was 25...

I received the last of them the following year when I was 26... they took their sweet time getting them to me...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 27, 2012, 06:56:39 AM
They are not rip off artists, they are honest and they can be slow, sometimes.
I have never had anything take longer than 2 weeks to arrive from BT, but I understand others have had issues.
I ordered an in stock product from Wayland games and it took a month to arrive when I would expect a three day turn around.
I order historical miniatures from BT so speedy delivery is not essential.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 27, 2012, 07:56:54 AM
Black ree has never let me down, and I have quite a lot of their stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 27, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
I am a Premium member and I get the weekly newsletter.
I pick and choose when they have stuff on offer and you can generally buy at 35% or more if you wait.
So again like JN I am not in a rush to get the stuff.

The only thing I really suffered on was an order for Spahi cavalry where they had lost the champion mould - however they asked if I wanted to swap and gave me a bonus pack as compensation.

They can be slow but they are reasonable to deal with - responding to emails.

I must admit I did place an order last night ............ their cavalry is usually exempt from most of their special offers so I waded in with some Late Romans, Normans, and a few Saxons and Vikings.

I had some spare cash as GW didn't get much money out of me at new Empire time ................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on May 27, 2012, 03:12:45 PM
Sorry - my point was that with a huge discount orders can be overwhelming and they may take longer than usual to cast and then post the orders, not that they are routinely slow
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 27, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
I had some spare cash

I'll have that!  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 27, 2012, 03:41:44 PM
I had some spare cash

I'll have that!  :engel:

Yeah but they had 50% off for the weekend and you didn't .......................

Your price will still be the same next week.

 :engel:

PS. Did you get your package - I posted it Saturday the 19th.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 27, 2012, 04:20:59 PM
I got the email too, and was tempted. But I really need to exercise some restraint and keep working on the figures I've got.

I'm a little wary about ordering as well. I did get everything on my one other order direct from them, but it took several shipments over the course of many months, and only after repeated emails and phone calls. From reviews/comments online, it sounds like they've improved service in the last year or two, though.

As far as the fantasy figures, the reason they look like old GW figures is that they were doing what Mantic is doing now: trying to ride GW's coat tails. The kicker was, of course, that some of their sculptors were the same sculptors who had done some of the GW figures that were being emulated.

In general, I think they've got a lot of good figures. I don't like them all, but many are anywhere from good to great. I'm very tempted to buy boatloads more ancient Germans for my historical German & fantasy barbarian armies -- but will probably wait til next time. Some of the fantasy barbarians are also tempting -- I love the guy wearing the horned deer scalp.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on May 28, 2012, 08:04:05 AM
They can be slow but they are reasonable to deal with - responding to emails.

They do have good customer service when those little issues arrise.

I ordered a Late Roman cavalry unit pack and was a little dismayed to find it was spread throughpout the types of cavalry and not just the heavy cavalry that I imagined due to the one cavalry figure they had as the picture for it.

They sent me the heavy cavalry figures I wanted free of charge, and although they didn't ask me to, I did send them back the light cavalry as more than reasonable behaviour deserves to be met with the same.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 28, 2012, 08:24:07 AM
Yeah but they had 50% off for the weekend and you didn't .......................

Your price will still be the same next week.

Damned, flawless logic!  :biggriin:

PS. Did you get your package - I posted it Saturday the 19th.

Yes!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 28, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
I want that Perry wine-cart!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Justnorth on May 28, 2012, 08:59:03 AM
They can be slow but they are reasonable to deal with - responding to emails.

They do have good customer service when those little issues arrise.

I ordered a Late Roman cavalry unit pack and was a little dismayed to find it was spread throughpout the types of cavalry and not just the heavy cavalry that I imagined due to the one cavalry figure they had as the picture for it.

They sent me the heavy cavalry figures I wanted free of charge, and although they didn't ask me to, I did send them back the light cavalry as more than reasonable behaviour deserves to be met with the same.

Fair play to you.
Nice anecdote.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 31, 2012, 04:14:41 AM


I have no gaming use for this figure, and I'm not even playing any sci-fi games at the moment, but I think I'm going to buy this just because I want to paint one up, and I like robots...

http://freeboardgamesnow.com/demobot60mmtall.aspx

Sorry for injecting some sci-fi in what's usually been a fantasy/Empire themed thread. Uh.... look, I'm going to make this into a College of Engineers robosteammonkey......  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 31, 2012, 08:51:04 AM
http://www.reapermini.com/

Reaper are out with a new limited edition resin line.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 31, 2012, 09:54:26 AM
Nice, costly, not interested.

AoW is a much better firm to go after barbarian style.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 01, 2012, 04:04:42 AM
Cashing in on the popularity of "limited edition resin" from other lines like CMON?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 04, 2012, 06:04:15 PM
Anybody checked out these guys before, I saw them at Salute today and they were unbelievably cheap.
Also the product weighs next to nothing and would be awesome for carrying and transporting but check out the prices... :-o :icon_eek:

http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=f

I picked up a couple ruins pieces and they are crap. Not worth it. They are flimsy, the seams don't go together well at all, and no detail on the inside, so they look terrible.

I still have them the kits if anyone wants it for free.  ;)

some discussion of them here:  http://www.frothersunite.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19648&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=amera&start=10

and some pictures of the pieces that formed my opinion of them here:  http://www.madponies.net/images/WIP/amera/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 04, 2012, 06:06:41 PM
Fantastic mini for Rufus

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Warlord-Hrolfgad-Loftsaddle-Dwarf-Griffon-Rider.jpg)

Where is that owl head from?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 04, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
LeadAdventure has a new unit based on William Tell that I think will definitely excite some here:

(http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1203/d2/8441d7933a4c.jpg)


(http://s05.radikal.ru/i178/1203/e3/ddb9cb5358cc.jpg)


(http://s54.radikal.ru/i145/1203/7b/fb15775e12b5.jpg)


(http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5b/a1b26d33c5c4.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/lafwt1.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/lafwt2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 05, 2012, 01:40:27 AM
 :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on June 05, 2012, 03:59:30 PM
...I picked up a couple ruins pieces and they are crap. Not worth it. They are flimsy, the seams don't go together well at all, and no detail on the inside, so they look terrible...

I don't understand why you think them crap cjp. The chap in your linked thread had the same complaints as yourself. ie. flimsy, single-sided & difficult to assemble.... but they're sold as vac-formed terrain which says it all. If you were expecting clip-together quality then why buy vac-formed stuff which will obviously be a modelling project? If you don't want a big modelling project then you'd be better off looking at cast resin terrain or injection moulded plastic from someone like Conflix or Pegasus Hobbies; very nice stuff but obviously a lot more expensive. You get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 05, 2012, 05:19:01 PM

Where is that owl head from?

The whole figure is from Reaper. I'm too lazy to look for it at the moment, but I posted a link to it a page or two back.



Those Lead Adventure figures are amazing!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 05, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
You get what you pay for.

I found it to be a waste of money, even at the price they charge. Really, not worth using at all for how much trouble it is to even get the pieces to fit together and cut out the windows etc, not to mention how terrible it looks. You could get better looking stuff with cut-out cereal boxes, for less cost and at least equal, if not less work. Plus, you'd get breakfast out of it. :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on June 05, 2012, 08:39:33 PM
Huh, didn't see it in that range, Zero23, but now that I know its reaper I was able to find it in the figure-finder, thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on June 16, 2012, 12:38:15 PM
Perry war altar:

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/Carroccio.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: TheElectorCount43 on June 16, 2012, 01:18:42 PM
http://www.curiousconstructs.co.uk/28mm_Colonial_Empire_Kits__amp;_Bits/cat1446090_1307458.aspx
Some white metal blisters for creating praetorian/mordian rough riders (ig)
based on late 19th british lancers, especially from the zulu war
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on June 16, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
I'm liking that wagon!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on June 16, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Second.

Little plastic Jesus is bound to become a classic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on June 16, 2012, 09:53:14 PM
Also very much like the figures in the set. Great for dioramas/photos in campaign fluff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 16, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Agreed, cool set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 18, 2012, 04:11:41 AM
Warlord games does some more kislev  :blush: (though the scale will be a bit small:

http://www.warlordgames.com/22070/preview-polish-winger-hussars/

(http://warlordgames.com/wg-images/winged-hussars/WIP-Polish-Winged-Hussars-a.jpg)

(http://warlordgames.com/wg-images/winged-hussars/WIP-Polish-Winged-Hussars-b.jpg)

(http://warlordgames.com/wg-images/winged-hussars/WIP-Polish-Winged-Hussars-d.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 18, 2012, 04:24:52 AM
Awesome! it doesn't say if they will me plastic or metal though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 18, 2012, 06:28:21 AM
Those hussars had me smiling. I am dreaming about creating a swedish 30-years war army that I could use as an Empire army aswell.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on June 25, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
Hello there, i would like to start empire army based on Perry minies, i know they are bit smaller than regular gw pijama troopers but i wonder if anyone seen http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=2476 (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_34&products_id=2476) those, can they be fielded as empire cannons?.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 25, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
Yes they can. They are a bit small, yes, but they look fine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 26, 2012, 04:31:39 AM
The Empire cannons are almost more like big siege guns compared to most historical cannons. Although the Perry cannons might look a bit smaller, I think it's perfectly clear what they are supposed to be if used in the game.

Honestly, I think the entire Perry range is well done and would make a good alternate Empire army... sort of like a "historical" Empire army from the past, before they got all puffy & slashy.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 26, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
On a side note: them Perrys are expanding their italian range even further - new stuff added to the metal workbench. My Marienburger army may be forced - yes, forced! - to hire more Tileans.   :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2012, 07:51:31 PM
Artwork for Conquest Games new Norman infantry

44 figures a box for £20

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/NormanInfantryforweb.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 28, 2012, 07:57:08 PM
What's with the guy in the lower left corner?

Like a medieval photobomber.

 :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 28, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Artwork for Conquest Games new Norman infantry

44 figures a box for £20


 :-o I need 10 boxes!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 28, 2012, 11:27:08 PM
Cool!

Now, for those of us not  blessed to live in the UK, just got this in from foundry:

A total review of Foundry's pricing policy

Quote
Dear Sir/Madam,

While you may not have noticed yet, things are changing at Foundry and we are the middle of a process of restructuring and reorganisation. This will include bringing back some old ranges and reintrodcuing some old packs that were inexplicably removed from others. This will all take some time but we want to return to being the company we once were. As a symbol of this we have reintroduced the English Civil War and Thirty Years War ranges.

Although some of these things will take some time to put into place, one immediate change we have made is to make sure that those ordering from outside of the UK will pay the same price as everybody else. It was a particularly bad policy that we have rectified as of today, no matter where you live in the world you will not pay more than our domestic customers.

Watch out for further changes in the future.

yours faithfully,

Neil Littlewood

I can't see how this is a bad move for us...  :biggriin:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 29, 2012, 01:10:10 AM
Just got the Foundry email. My first thought? "Is this one of the signs of the apocalypse?" If GW  prices go down next, I'm going to start preparing for the end.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 29, 2012, 04:07:43 AM
Oh dear. My Order-in-Waiting just dropped from 300+ Euro to 250+. Do I dare wait for a sale, or do I strike? Price drops may mean no more big sale before christmas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 29, 2012, 09:55:35 AM
I get the impression Foundry are struggling.

They still have some nice stuff from their older ranges, but compared to Perrys, Artizan, TAG, and even Crusader for example they seem very overpriced.
The only time or way to buy is during sales and/or their bulk deals, and even then their 'sale' price is still more expensive.

Artizan Landsknechts £9.60 for 8 figures   ( 4 models x 2 of each)
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1751.jpg)

Foundry Renaissance £12.00 for 8 figures  (2 models x 4 of each)
 (http://wargamesfoundry.com/_images/thumbs/SB36_340x223.png)

More variety gets you 6 models for the same £12.00
(http://wargamesfoundry.com/_images/thumbs/REN516_1318841687_340x223.png)

The owner - Brian Ansell ? - has supposedly been trying to sell it for some time, and I think there is a lot of agreement that their new stuff is quite poor.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 29, 2012, 12:00:54 PM
They are certainly still expensive. But those renaissance orcs are just too damned good. I just thought, if they are indeed struggling - and yes, I think they are - do I dare to wait for a sale? They may go out of business....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 29, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
If you like them try this guy - he's a reputable show trader who I have dealt with for many years.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Dave-T-Shop/FANTASY-SCI-FI-/_i.html?_fsub=312412819&_sid=175535339&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

He bought vast stocks of old blisters of them, and nowadays has limited models from the whole range which Foundry have revamped, but you may get some in your collection at a better price.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 29, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Thanks, that was helpful - I found a couple that is not even on the Foundry webpage! Anyway, I did just go ahead and placed a large Foundry order. Hope they don΄t let me down....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 05, 2012, 10:37:44 AM
(http://www.w6-tabletop.at/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Domina-of-Torment.jpeg)

This model is so much better than the GW Mask of Slaanesh. This makes me want to play a demon army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 05, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
If you like them try this guy - he's a reputable show trader who I have dealt with for many years.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/The-Dave-T-Shop/FANTASY-SCI-FI-/_i.html?_fsub=312412819&_sid=175535339&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

He bought vast stocks of old blisters of them, and nowadays has limited models from the whole range which Foundry have revamped, but you may get some in your collection at a better price.

I wonder if he has any of their Elven Spearmen...I do like them but as has been said, they are still too pricey.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 06, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
More interesting news from Foundry:

Quote
Dear all,

It’s been another busy week here at Foundry, with our great reorganisation process well under way.

One immediate issue we’ve been looking at are our postal prices and we were pleased to find that shipping abroad has dropped phenomenally in the last few years. So much so that as of today we can announce that the basic international postage rate has been dropped to £5.00. UK customers also benefit from this price review with p&p rates halved to £4.00. While this is a good start, we’re going to be putting a lot of effort into making it even cheaper in the future.

We can also announce that we have rereleased the massive Malburian and Franco-Prussian War ranges in their entirety, to sit alongside the complete English Civil War and Thirty Years War ranges. This represents literally thousands of models, with the Franco-Prussian range alone numbering 128 packs! It may take a little time to track down some of the more elusive moulds, but we plan on bringing back our entire back catalogue.

If you have any suggestions please feel free to get in touch.

Yours sincerely,

Neil Littlewood, Whirling Plenipotentiary.

www.wargamesfoundry.com

I don't see how this could be a bad thing for the hobby!  Now, if they only stopped charging international customers VAT on their orders, it would be near-perfect.  :engel:  I like a lot of their stuff, so I hope the re-structuring works out for them.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 06, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
Good to see they're continuing to take steps in the right direction!  :eusa_clap:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 07, 2012, 07:49:02 AM
(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/cache/7a6fe08027b80ee08bda1ed60d73e334_XL.jpg)
Fireforge's new plastic Teutonic knights.  :icon_eek:

(http://www.studiominiatures.com/media/k2/items/cache/233826a67be66a810b23a263230da62e_L.jpg)
Studio Miniatures' new plastic Nazi zombies.

I... think I've finally recovered from the Warhammer Bug. Why pay double/triple for GW's hit-or-miss models? Other than the fact that Warhammer has a significant number of players unlike every other wargame...  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 07, 2012, 05:42:07 PM
I just had a very good experience with Fire and Flames (http://myworld.ebay.com/from_fire_and_flames?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1181). I bought the wrong thing and they were super good about sorting it out. I recommend these fellows as being excellent examples of customer service.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 07, 2012, 09:34:20 PM
I just had a very good experience with Fire and Flames (http://myworld.ebay.com/from_fire_and_flames?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1181). I bought the wrong thing and they were super good about sorting it out. I recommend these fellows as being excellent examples of customer service.

I've met him - Paul is a very nice guy, and I have several of his halflings ...................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 08, 2012, 11:15:05 PM
Just came across these guys http://www.sbarber-models.clara.net/main.html - there might be something there someone finds interesting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 08, 2012, 11:55:08 PM
Just came across these guys http://www.sbarber-models.clara.net/main.html - there might be something there someone finds interesting.

I'd love to check them out, but my work computer blocks the site.  Reason: "pornography."  What kind of figures are those, Darknight?   :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 08, 2012, 11:59:12 PM
They aren't what would commonly be called pornographic, is the short answer! :)

They are just general sorts of figures - he has some Napoleonics, some ancients of various sorts, some scenery, lots of 25-28mm and some 10 and 15s.

But a distinct lack of bare boobies, to be honest. Bare boobies is, in my view, one of the pre-requisites for something being designated as pornography. YMMV, of course.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 09, 2012, 12:06:34 AM
They aren't what would commonly be called pornographic, is the short answer! :)

They are just general sorts of figures - he has some Napoleonics, some ancients of various sorts, some scenery, lots of 25-28mm and some 10 and 15s.

But a distinct lack of bare boobies, to be honest. Bare boobies is, in my view, one of the pre-requisites for something being designated as pornography. YMMV, of course.

It's not the first time this has happened...last time I was trying to look at a backpacking website lol!  I'll check it out when I'm at home.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on July 09, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
Well i got my guns from Perrys and the minis are sweet, gun is small comaring to gw standards but i like it it's much more realistic and will be great when i start my perry empire based army. I plan tu use gw minis in smallest numbers i can.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: towishimp on July 09, 2012, 10:46:42 PM
Well i got my guns from Perrys and the minis are sweet, gun is small comaring to gw standards but i like it it's much more realistic and will be great when i start my perry empire based army. I plan tu use gw minis in smallest numbers i can.

I love my Perry mercenaries.  I got two boxes awhile back and made 36 pikemen and 20 crossbowmen out of them, for about the price of one box of 10-20 GW models.  Great stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 10, 2012, 05:54:21 AM
Darknights site has a naked cyclops with dong showing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on July 10, 2012, 06:48:58 AM
Darknights site has a naked cyclops with dong showing.

I love how nonchalantly you say that!
There are also the bare chested harpy and medusa on the same page.
I really like the cavemen models on there though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 10, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
I was trying to look at a backpacking website lol!

Back. Packing.

I see.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 13, 2012, 04:58:40 PM
Is there anyone doing suitable plastic figures for the French Indian / Seven Years War?

I know about Wargames Factory's WSS minis and their are lots of Napoleonics out there as well - which would be better to use?

 (http://www.warlordgames.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x634/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/g/wg7-fiw-02-british.jpg)

http://www.warlordgames.com/23332/pre-order-french-indian-war-boxed-sets/?utm_source=Warlord+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=8d079d1112-Warlord_Games_Newsletter_13_July_20127_9_2012&utm_medium=email

http://www.warlordgames.com/store/french-indian-war-1754-1763-british-regular-infantry-boxed-set.html

Along with the Conquest Miniatures Woodlands Indians which look great with lots of poses, they have metal French and British figures which are pretty static and with limited poses, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the figures are the same in each box.

You can see the 6 command figures per set, but they only show 6 of the other 12 per box.

The box art shows different poses - ie kneeling, but I doubt they are available.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on July 13, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
Hi Mark,

You are limited to metal I am afraid, but the guerilla campain was fought with very small numbers, barely breaking in to the hundreds on each side and were fought by the irregulars (or regulars who could fight as irregulars).

The set piece battles were few and far between, and were fought more on the lines as regular European battles.

Front Rank do a nice (if dated) range
http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp (http://www.frontrank.com/3_3_lev3_The_French_Indian_War.asp)

If you do wants something 18th century, the Perry's are doing plastic American Insurection shortly (ish)
Quote
The American Civil War Confederate Infantry will be next in line followed by the American War of Independence British Infantry.
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/aw/AWI_-72.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on July 14, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
Is there anyone doing suitable plastic figures for the French Indian / Seven Years War? ....

Have you perhaps been eye-balling the Muskets & Tomahawks rules?

Me too.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 14, 2012, 10:58:05 AM
Would those rules be good for King William's War and Queen Anne's War (late seventeenth and early 18th century)?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on July 14, 2012, 11:34:24 AM
Not if you were looking at the European theatre.

Beneath the Lilly White Banners is highly rated for that period.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 14, 2012, 12:00:02 PM
'King William's War' is the name for the American theatre actions of the 'War of the Grand Alliance' and 'Queen Anne's War' is what the colonials called the 'War of the Spanish Succession'. So, no, not for the European theatre, for the French and Indian wars.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 14, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
I got Muskets & Tomahawks yesterday for my birthday - 21 again .................. so it is a skirmish/warband set up.

I also had the Crusader Woodland Indians set deal from Northstar - but I do like those Conquest Minis.

I have a few Hessian style figures, but they are all posed with shouldered arms - very boring .......... and a sort of Trapper style Coureurs du Bois figure which I suppose I could use.


I shall have to pull out Last of the Mohicans on DVD   :engel:


The FIW and SYW were around 1754 - 1763 so only some 45 -50 years before Napoleonics -  are any of the Perry plastics remotely close to uniforms?
 


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 14, 2012, 08:30:03 PM
Oh and also found this today .............

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormanInfantry.jpg)

New Conquest Games Norman infantry



(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans018.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on July 15, 2012, 06:20:20 AM
...New Conquest Games Norman infantry...

And I finally get my Norman Saga warband. :icon_biggrin:
(I wonder if I pay them extra they'll agree NOT to send them in that horrible box artwork.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 15, 2012, 07:24:12 AM
...New Conquest Games Norman infantry...

And I finally get my Norman Saga warband. :icon_biggrin:
(I wonder if I pay them extra they'll agree NOT to send them in that horrible box artwork.)

I'm still recovering from the Wargames Factory WWII Americans artwork: 
(http://wargamesfactory.com/Images/ProductImages/boxsets/wgf-w2002/wgf-w2002-box-sml.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 15, 2012, 11:07:37 AM
So back to the French & Indian War and the Seven Years War.

Would the figures some companies make for the SYW be appropriate for the North American campaign - I assume British and French troops would have been equipped pretty much the same whether they were in Europe or in NA.

I've been looking at the Crusader range

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=7&page=1

and aren't they all such limited poses - 90% shouldered arms.
The Austrian Grenz look ok but I suppose I have to 'invent' a reason for them to be in North America .................

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/sya031.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/sya034.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/sya033.jpg)


Northstar have posted a couple of pics but I cannot work out if these are samples of new models on the way or some existing Minutemen/Militia figures?

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/306786_473773669318207_219148598_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399441_473773695984871_943151162_n.jpg)

That is the sort of look I imagine I want?
I shall spend some Sunday afternoon Leisure time searching further ..........

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 15, 2012, 04:41:25 PM
I suppose I have to 'invent' a reason for them to be in North America

They could have come for the beautiful and spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for the purple mountained majesty, or even the fruited plain.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on July 15, 2012, 07:54:16 PM
Camel riders.
I need camel riders for my 40K Tallarn army (rough riders).

Anyone any ideas?
Most of my troops are Taliban troops from the Assault group range and there's some Forgeworld Tallarn in there too (so you get the idea).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 15, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
I remember seeing something about this before - here is a link to roughly the right area on this very thread; http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31348.msg647122#msg647122

I think Black Tree Designs do some nice stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on July 16, 2012, 10:00:22 AM
and a sort of Trapper style Coureurs du Bois figure which I suppose I could use.

You could do worse than Rangers on one side and milice, Independant companies of Marines (with the native look) and Indians on the other. Avoid Coureurs du Bois as they really were not that involved with the conflict.

Pick up the book "Battle on Snowshoes (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Snowshoes-Bob-Bearor/dp/0788406191/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342432501&sr=1-2)" which is all about Robert Rogers getting the kicking of his life by Canadian partisans lead by Langy.

The FIW and SYW were around 1754 - 1763 so only some 45 -50 years before Napoleonics -  are any of the Perry plastics remotely close to uniforms?
Not even close. The new AWI stuff they are doing is based on the 1768 modifications - and even they are a world away from what was worn in the F&IW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on July 16, 2012, 06:05:50 PM
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Camel riders.
I need camel riders for my 40K Tallarn army (rough riders).


Maybe not quite what your after, but I think they are awesome!
http://hinterlandminiatures.weebly.com/storecart.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on July 16, 2012, 06:16:40 PM
Camel riders.
I need camel riders for my 40K Tallarn army (rough riders).
Essex makes 25mm camels.
http://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/gal_aec15.html

Ebob also has some, relatively inexpensive, dromederies at 28mm.
http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/fantasy.htm#2

Not sure which scale would work best for Tallarn.  Are they standard 25mm or heroic?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Badwolf on July 20, 2012, 08:06:31 PM
Camel riders ..... Anyone any ideas?

The old W-E camel question. There are quite a few useable camel figures out there but they differ wildly in interpretation between different companies.

Black Tree camels are big and cartoon-like (but then camels are one of the most rediculous looking creatures on this planet); perry's and ebob's are excellent sculpts but they will look under-sized next to a GW figure. Foundry?  G-t-F (a Glaswegian saying).

The big question is .... do you want static or dynamic poses? Armoured or un-armoured camels?

IMHO, have a look at A&A. http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/view_product/?p=44 (http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/view_product/?p=44)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on July 24, 2012, 06:52:41 PM
(http://img10.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/25/07/22/45/2507224512)
Can anyone help me, is this steam tank complete?.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 24, 2012, 08:53:51 PM
I have no idea, never owned any of the models, but from the picture alone - where are the other set of wheels? Does the model have two pairs?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 24, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
It looks like it has enough pieces (based on assembling it in my head) with the exception of one of the front wheels (the "half-wheels") - I can only see one in there. Unless you are going to assemble it as some kind of "Reliant Robin Stank" (which might be rad) then you will need to replace that piece (a single plastic wheel cut in half would allow you to replace both front wheels with identical pieces, of course).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 25, 2012, 09:39:31 AM
Red Box minis also have a kickstarter... I hope nobody else has posted them yet.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde)

Right now only really interesting for Chaos and Bretonnians but for those two .....fantastic minis.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: entombet on July 25, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Metal steam tank had one front wheel?.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 25, 2012, 08:13:44 PM
No, two. But they were only half-wheels because they fit onto the surface of the bottom of the hull.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on July 26, 2012, 01:06:29 PM
Red Box minis also have a kickstarter... I hope nobody else has posted them yet.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde)

Right now only really interesting for Chaos and Bretonnians but for those two .....fantastic minis.
Very nice.  I've been considering the Gynnade Krigare as Chaos Chosen, and this might be a good reason to jump in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 01, 2012, 06:51:09 AM
Saw this guy's WIP here:

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=41974.0 (http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=41974.0)

(http://www.lead-adventure.de/gallery/10/93_21_05_12_9_05_43.jpg)

Looks exciting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 01, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
Saw this on the Wargames Factory page; Long URL is long (http://www.facebook.com/michtoy248?ref=mf#!/photo.php?fbid=10150949986206059&set=a.10150583534601059.375054.334302786058&type=1&theater)

Might be suitable for someone's army or something :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 01, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
The Conquest Games Normans are on pre-order - due out around August 8th

Some more shots.

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans019.jpg)


(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans021.jpg)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Infantry/ConquestNormans016.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on August 01, 2012, 09:34:48 PM
stop it you're making my wallet cry  :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 02, 2012, 03:51:54 PM
Some good news from Foundry:

Quote
Neil and I have spent the last couple of weeks reorganising the racks of blister packs here at Foundry in sunny Saint Ann's*.
Stock has been under pressure over the last couple of months as Ronnie (caster, mould maker and sculptor Ronnie) has often been pulled away to do other things.

Our plan was to make sure that we have at least eight blisters in stock of everything: even the not terribly popular codes, so we set about gathering moulds for the missing models and piling them up around Steve and Ronnie's casting benches.

We've only been working here for a month or two, and so it was interesting to discover all the models that we had never looked at properly before: and the ones that we hadn't even realised existed.

There is no current printed Foundry catalogue, so we were using old A5 size catalogues (perhaps 10 years old), and, navigating by catalogue it was soon clear that the contents of the packs in huge sections of the range had changed.

We knew that a number of packs from Foundry ranges had been withdrawn and replaced. But we were very surprised just how many packs of models have disappeared and had their place taken by often rather mundane substitutes.

Even small ranges have had a dozen or so packs removed; while hundreds are missing from the larger ranges (mostly those sculpted in the golden age of the eighties ). Despite its legendary status, enormous popularity and miraculous depth, even Michael and Alan Perry's marvellous Napoleonic range has been ripped apart and its ranks invaded by somewhat wonky imposters.

It's hard to see how all this has come about.

Neil insists that it can only be the work of dark forces.

One end of our building; the end built in red brick in 1861, used to be an abattoir (really). When Foundry first came here there were still old blood gutters running down to the big doors that lead to the street.

Neil' theory is that the combination of ancient dried blood (who knows from what source) and molten lead (that once sheathed the roof of eldritch temples) has drawn satanic creatures to our factory. Terrified Foundry staff must have been forced to participate in dark ceremonies; where boiling blood and bubbling ladles full of molten Napoleonic castings were offered to arcane daemonic creatures lusting after molten lead from only the very finest 28mm scale models, and thus denying those models to the human population of the Earth for eternity.

This is a very fine theory indeed, but I feel that we must look for a simpler explanation and solution; probably involving finding the moulds for the missing packs and putting them all back into production.

So, that is now our plan. We have indeed found a huge number of moulds that haven't been run for years, and there are a whole ranges that have been discontinued.

It's possible that some moulds have disappeared, and it is likely that some moulds might have worn beyond the point at which we would be comfortable selling models that had been cast from them, but we will almost certainly be able to get hold of their original master moulds and recast the masters. Recasting will be interesting as we now have more sophisticated techniques for casting masters and can produce more three dimensional, crisper models.

We will almost certainly start with Napoleonic's and, daemons permitting, we hope to get started next week.

There will be a delay between us having castings available and getting them on our website, but we will announce which models we have available on this page, so you will at least be able to order them by phone as soon as we have them cast.
Neil and I will set up a scheme that will allow you to order any models from any of our ‘discontinued’ ranges that we have a mould for.

We will be spending a lot of time going back and forth gathering up the old moulds for the casters and getting the reissued models on the hooks.

So, if you give us a call and tell us which models you need, we'll organise picking up the moulds for your models too, and when we have enough for a stack, we'll stick them in an oven, get them to temperature and hijack a caster to run them. This may take an extra day or three.

Ring us on: 0115 8413000

We can only apologise for all this and set about making the missing models available to you again. It must have been incredibly irritating to have been unable to finish regiments and armies when we switched the packs on you.

By the time you get this, hopefully the link below will lead somewhere interesting.
British Napoleonics

Marcus Ansell

*'Gun crime capital of Britain': apparently.

Quite a funny read.  I can only expect that bringing back their most popular lines will be good for them in the long run.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 02, 2012, 04:41:01 PM
Amusing, although the bit about "no one knows how this happened" was mentally translated as "someone doesn't want to take credit for bad business decisions of the past" as I was reading.  :engel:

But once again, at least they show that they are interested in trying to improve in the present, which is the important thing. I wish them luck in turning the company around.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 02, 2012, 06:51:48 PM
Indeed

Be nice to see this once great company back at the top.

Hope they drop their prices a bit...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 03, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
That can only be good news.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 03, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/487288_468401643179165_52503341_n.jpg)


(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/553509_468401536512509_1964000170_n.jpg)


(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418213_468407453178584_1032979262_n.jpg)



Go look at the rest of the pics on this facebook page .......... you can open one up with a double click and then you can scroll through 35 shots of what looks like one hell of a kit.http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.468400939845902.110536.271339052885426&type=3

They look promising.
I have all 3 mounted boxes and they are very nice.


As to the Foundry discussion - seems to have been some changes.
Rumour has had it for some years that owner Bryan Ansell had been trying to sell it - from the latest email newsletter it would appear a relative has taken over the running and been given some sort of power to shake it up.
Price has been a problem - unless you bought in a sale and in bulk basic minis were overpriced - and new stuff of the last couple of years has been of poorer quality than what had gone before.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 05, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
Those look really fine - I might be interested in a box or two . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on August 06, 2012, 08:23:55 PM
Are they in shops or just online?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 11, 2012, 11:43:22 AM
If you have been thinking of getting Perry WOTR figures, now may be the time:

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=1623982861 (http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=1623982861)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 13, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
The battleforge has released some imperial ogres:

(http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/ekmps/shops/thebattleforge/images/imperial-ogre-with-club-x4-pack-355-p.jpg)

http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/giants-ogres-and-trolls-38-c.asp

The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on August 13, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
Red Box minis also have a kickstarter... I hope nobody else has posted them yet.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/red-box-games-helsvakt-horde)

Right now only really interesting for Chaos and Bretonnians but for those two .....fantastic minis.
Just a reminder that the kickstarter is on its last couple of days.  They've added some pretty fantastic undead models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 13, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...


Yeah, the price tag kills it for me. A shame, as I'd like to paint up a set and see how they mix with the old Marauder sculpts. They don't look quite as hot, but I'd be willing to bet they look decent with some paint.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 17, 2012, 08:18:33 AM
Spartan Games is bringing out its own 28 mm skirmish game


Fantastic minis for 40k and maybe with some conversion works also Empire

The Japanese Tank could make a fantastic steam tank.

http://www.spartangames.co.uk/games/dystopian-legions/empire-of-the-blazing-sun (http://www.spartangames.co.uk/games/dystopian-legions/empire-of-the-blazing-sun)

(http://www.spartangames.co.uk/wp/wp/wp-content/spartanimg/bs-gallery-ke-ho.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 19, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...

Ooh, those look a step up from their usual sculpting quality. I'd like to see them with some paint and next to the Marauder ones too. If they are good, then I guess I can scrap landsknecht ogres from the to do list for my range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 21, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
 :ph34r:

Reaper Bones hit the million on kickstarter

So much fantastic goodness

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 21, 2012, 09:55:45 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...

Ooh, those look a step up from their usual sculpting quality. I'd like to see them with some paint and next to the Marauder ones too. If they are good, then I guess I can scrap landsknecht ogres from the to do list for my range.

I would be tempted to buy one and give it a try, I just dislike their policy of always shipping via signed-for mail, even for a small order as it makes the high prices seem even worse.

I think they would be much better if they did their bellybuttons differently.  They did the same on lots of their halflings - just a big gaping hole.  I don't know why, it just looks silly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on August 22, 2012, 01:06:33 PM
25 bucks per model isn't even close to worth it for those guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on August 22, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
The pictures look interesting, it would be nice to see them with a good paintjob.  Not sure if the sculpts are worth the $25 price tag each though...

Ooh, those look a step up from their usual sculpting quality. I'd like to see them with some paint and next to the Marauder ones too. If they are good, then I guess I can scrap landsknecht ogres from the to do list for my range.

I would be tempted to buy one and give it a try, I just dislike their policy of always shipping via signed-for mail, even for a small order as it makes the high prices seem even worse.

I think they would be much better if they did their bellybuttons differently.  They did the same on lots of their halflings - just a big gaping hole.  I don't know why, it just looks silly.

I agree with all of this...$25 is WAY too much....and those belly buttons do look weird...never noticed that before.

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 23, 2012, 08:56:32 AM
Well, that's an easy fix with a bit of greenstuff if you like. I will probably order these as they do look nice enough (though I got tempted into ordering their halflings on two occasions and ended up trading them away in both instances).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on August 24, 2012, 11:01:18 PM
Lead Adventures is at it again! Their wonderful crossbowmen is released, just ordered the whole bunch. A fine addition to my swelling Marienburger army (500+ infantry now).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 30, 2012, 07:58:49 PM

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553903_492315720797335_2027407671_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 31, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
Mantic models used to make a 40K nurgle chaos demon army and a 40k Dark Eldar army


Fantastic

http://www.gowarhead.com/p/hammering-warpath.html (http://www.gowarhead.com/p/hammering-warpath.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 04, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
More pics of the new Fireforge Foot Sergeants

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.481357498550246.114214.271339052885426&type=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 06, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
Finally some plastic Bretonnians to match the old metal ones. :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 07, 2012, 05:39:04 PM
(http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/ekmps/shops/thebattleforge/images/imperial-ogre-with-club-x4-pack-355-p.jpg)

I ordered these. They are a big improvement sculptingwise from the earlier halfling and dwarf models and while still not a patch on the (perfect) Marauder ones, I like them.

If you want to mix them though (as was my initial intention), you should know that they are not the same size as the Marauder ones. They are about a half head taller (which of course translates to more bulk as well) and they would not sit well side by side. Restricted to their own units or as unitfillers for non-ogre units, they are good though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 16, 2012, 02:06:55 AM
Thanks for the review, WK!  Would you say they are worth the price tag though?

In other news, in case you  missed it, Foundry has re-released their old range of vikings and norse done by the Perry bros, which also used to be sold as citadel  norse.  The also released the rest of their old egyptian range, and they are visible on the website now.

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/vikings.JPG)

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Classic Ex-Citadel Vikings, Saxons and Normans Return

Sculpted by Alan and Michael Perry back in the late eighties (probably between 1986-7) these were first released under the Citadel F (Fighter) series. They would later become the basis of the Norse range, where perhaps they have become better known.
Although they are slightly smaller than our other Vikings, they are splendid in their own right.


Egyptians restored to full Strength

We’re also happy to announce that we have finished casting our complete range of Ancient Egyptians, adding 28 packs to what had been previously available. Another range that was sculpted by Alan and Michael Perry, it is not only marvellous but also the most extensive of its kind.
 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 16, 2012, 08:06:09 PM
Love those Norse figures. Used to have a bunch. If I can get them on sale, I'd be tempted to put together a unit as mecwnaries for WFB.

Got an email that said they're also re-releasing the samurai, which are also excellent figures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 16, 2012, 11:48:01 PM
Got that email too, but a picture is also nice  :icon_mrgreen:

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/Samurai.jpg)

With the new price adjustment, the prices aren't that unreasonable.  It's 18.58 for a pack, regardless of whether they were 6 or 8 to a pack.  The samurai appear to be 6 per pack (about $3 apiece) and the old vikings are 8 to a pack (about $2.30 apiece).

For the quality and the fact that they are metal I would say that's acceptable, compared to many of the other manufacturers.  Though a sale would be even nicer  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 17, 2012, 08:41:57 AM
Dystopian legions has the starter boxes up....not sure yet if I like it or not. Some minis are amazing like the British drummer boy.

http://ttfix.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/spartan-games-dystopian-legions.html (http://ttfix.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/spartan-games-dystopian-legions.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 17, 2012, 11:32:39 AM
Thanks for the review, WK!  Would you say they are worth the price tag though?

That's pretty subjective of course as what one finds worth the price, others would not. I would say that if you buy all 4 together (which is cheaper than the individual price) they are about worth it. Just. But the real test will be how they take paint of course, so final judgment will have to be reserved until I have time to try one out.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on September 17, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
I ordered a box of the Plastic Soldier Company 28mm Russians thinking they'd be a good counterpart to my Wargames Factory Germans. They look awful. PSC's 1/100 and 1/72 offerings are great, though.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 19, 2012, 01:41:55 PM
54mm orcs from Russian company:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-geRGXAts-EA/UFnG2WDILCI/AAAAAAAABWk/IXD5V_4hs5I/s1600/IMG_6749.JPG)

Posing next to 25/28mm Perry WOTR figures:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QQ-ay0OOp3Y/UFnHKO2EMjI/AAAAAAAABW4/mlnPhlTzxsI/s1600/IMG_6754.JPG)

Looks like they can pass as ogres, but I have no idea why they are all wearing chastity belts...

http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2012/09/toy-overload.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2012/09/toy-overload.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 19, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
I have no idea why they are all wearing chastity belts...

Sexual misconduct is a serious issue in all modern societies.

I was super excited to see that awesome cannon for a moment; I thought "Hey, cool cannon!" And then I realized it was a GW thing  :icon_redface: Still, that means I can get it. I'd never really looked at it before. Might find a place in my next army.

EDIT : It's NOT a GW thing! Well, I was right the first time. Where'd'ya get it? I wants me one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 19, 2012, 03:48:04 PM
Oh no, the cannon came with the orcs - it's a Russian (Tehnolog?) thing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on September 19, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
EDIT : It's NOT a GW thing! Well, I was right the first time. Where'd'ya get it? I wants me one.
Try here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Techno-demonic-cannon-fit-for-28mm-fantasy-wargaming-/251123594433?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7821f4c1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 19, 2012, 06:39:26 PM
Thanks! I feel about fifteen of those may be needed . . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 20, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
I didn't get from that seller due to the negative feedbacks.

I got mine here: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=cannon&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=221124770333&pt=Toy_Soldiers&_osacat=0&hash=item337c103a1d&_ssn=strong-seller (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=cannon&_sacat=0&_odkw=&item=221124770333&pt=Toy_Soldiers&_osacat=0&hash=item337c103a1d&_ssn=strong-seller)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 20, 2012, 12:51:30 AM
Seems that first seller is making a minor career out of selling counterfeit GW items.

Shocking! Criminality and counterfeiting on eBay! Who would have thought it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 20, 2012, 01:06:33 AM
Hey hey... What I found interesting from that link was...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASTLE-CRAFT-Middle-Ages-Model-Castle-16-soldiers-28mm-/221118698614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337bb39476

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASTLE-CRAFT-Crusader-castle-Model-Castle-16-soldiers-28mm-/221127193553?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337c3533d1

I think this has been mentioned around here before. Haven't seen them for sale before, though.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Delthos on September 20, 2012, 02:11:02 AM
Yeah, definitely been mentioned before, I think you need quite a few of the kits in order to make a decent sized castle though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 20, 2012, 02:59:47 AM
Found a review from a guy who bought some on warseer:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?332189-Anyone-seen-have-this-castle-set

Some nice pics of the sprues, looks a tad small though.  Might make a nice border fort perhaps?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 20, 2012, 04:08:25 AM
Do NOT buy Castlecraft castles.

Those things are unnecessarily bitsy and take ages to put together. Time that can be better spent painting.

You have been warned.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 20, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
I have some of those sets and took some quick pics a while back.

28mm figure next to the door entrance, as seen, it's a bit small, especially when your figures will be based
(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc3.jpg)

Some sprue pics to give an idea. Lots of small pieces. Textured on both sides:

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc4.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc5.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc6.jpg)

(http://wk.frothersunite.com/misc/pics/cc7.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on September 21, 2012, 07:38:27 AM
Is that Castlecraft Castle?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on September 21, 2012, 12:15:13 PM
What is this, a castle for ants?

Could be bought to make ruins though. One sixth of the assembly, rest of it cheap putty and debris piled on.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 21, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
I think the doors could work; there are many places where doorways wouldn't be as high (comparatively speaking) as we have them in modern homes. Building up is easier today than it was in the mediaeval period; this castle could represent an older building.

Or a Dwarf hold :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 21, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
Yes, those are from the Castlecraft sets. Doors are small, but when I look at some real life castles around here, I find you always have to stoop to enter them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on September 21, 2012, 07:38:36 PM
I think the doors could work; there are many places where doorways wouldn't be as high (comparatively speaking) as we have them in modern homes. Building up is easier today than it was in the mediaeval period; this castle could represent an older building.

Or a Dwarf hold :)
No. A hobbit hold!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 22, 2012, 12:33:32 AM
You guys see those tiny clips?

Every single one of the joints have to be held together using two or more of those...

I think I'll rubble mine rather than to build it up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on September 22, 2012, 12:38:22 AM
I think I'll get one and build it into the side of a mountain as a dwarf outpost.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 22, 2012, 09:50:19 PM
You guys see those tiny clips?

Every single one of the joints have to be held together using two or more of those...

Or glue :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 23, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
Unfortunately the clips form part of the walls, so if you try to glue the sections together without the clips, you get gaps.

Not to mention that some of the clips are T-joints which allow you to put walls together in right angles - without them it will be as much effort to try to get the walls to fit properly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 25, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
LAM are starting to make their own metal cannons - metal fetishists rejoice. Price is not bad either.

http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=178&osCsid=750c1010c8cc57125ad91d02a2fb6cf9 (http://www.lead-adventure.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=178&osCsid=750c1010c8cc57125ad91d02a2fb6cf9)

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-42.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Marek on September 25, 2012, 06:20:55 PM
Can't believe there isn't more love for LAF/Ratnik's Brugelburg range on this site. Maybe its an age thing, but I think their range is more 'Empire' than any of GW's current range.

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-22.jpg)
(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/bru-46.jpg)

Lovely!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 26, 2012, 01:59:55 AM
Sure do love Ratnik's work!  I have already purchased the entire Bruegelburg range.  Nothing painted yet though, just have been able to appreciate the fine details up close  :biggriin:

And yes, the price is comparable to GW, and quite frankly, the detail puts GW to shame in most cases.  For the whole deal with 4 cannons and 10 crew, you pay 94euro (120usd) if you are in Europe, or roughly 100 USD if you are outside of Euro as they do not charge you tax if your order is international.  That's pretty much the same price as buying 4 cannon kits, except they are metal with nicer details.  No mortars are included, but nobody uses them anyways nowadays...  :engel:

Have you seen their upcoming swordsmen?

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=45963.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on September 26, 2012, 06:10:24 PM
They are absolutely stunning. I have the entire range (except for one figure - the knight with a silly spiked hat). They are superior to GW in every way imaginable, and they mix very well with the Foundry mercenary orcs too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on September 29, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
Maybe it΄s rude to have two straight posts, but I need to put this in writing somewhere: Foundry are serious about their rejuvenation. I just had a mail conversation with Marcus Ansell, explaining that I wish to have more puff n΄slash greenskins for my army, and it ended with him adding half a dozen packs of Mercenary Ogres (well, they are orcs really) to their site that had been withdrawn ages ago for reasons unknown. More will come, and I΄ll buy them. My Marienburger army just grows and grows (600+ infantry now).

Now that΄s customer relations, GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 30, 2012, 12:39:12 PM
Maybe it΄s rude to have two straight posts, but I need to put this in writing somewhere: Foundry are serious about their rejuvenation. I just had a mail conversation with Marcus Ansell, explaining that I wish to have more puff n΄slash greenskins for my army, and it ended with him adding half a dozen packs of Mercenary Ogres (well, they are orcs really) to their site that had been withdrawn ages ago for reasons unknown. More will come, and I΄ll buy them. My Marienburger army just grows and grows (600+ infantry now).

Now that΄s customer relations, GW.

HOLY CRAP! That's awesome!  I love those figures, and now that my birthday is coming up, I think that an order is in line!  Horray for foundry!  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 30, 2012, 02:48:12 PM
Akbar

You have discovered that there is a small group here who are collectors of these Kev Adams sculpts and so you are to be commended for your actions.

I have just spent some time updating my lists as I/we had pictures of various quality of some of these models, but no names to go with them.

Indeed I have found the first anomaly as what Foundry call "Razogret Dwarfstomper" I have seen called "Fancy Orrathock"

(http://www.voidgamers.com/images/data/photo/geboom/orc_goblins/orcsgoblins/GEBOOM-image02.jpg)

http://www.shiftinglands.com/orc02.htm

I also have some pictures of figures still not listed - there is quite often dispute over what is a Mercenary Ogre and a Mercenary Orc in these figures and the sizes of models do vary.

http://kevadamschallenge.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/foundry-fantasy-ogres.html

http://kevadamschallenge.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/mercenary-ogres.html

I am in the UK, and have some spares if you have any swaps.
Timbor is in Canada, and may want to check lists with you too.
You will also see evidence of White Knight on the site I linked to, as well, as he has a few too. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 30, 2012, 06:22:41 PM
They probably lost the old name, and just made up a new one.  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 01, 2012, 03:15:16 AM
To add to the previous conversation about lead adventure miniatures - some photos of their recent 'handgunner' sculpts:

(http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1209/b6/e580426578e4.jpg)

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=46470.0

Hmm, I wonder how they will look compared to our beloved pajama-donning hillbilly statetroops?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on October 01, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
These look like they have potential:

(http://www.warlordgames.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x634/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/g/wgp-tyw-27-regt-wallenstein-lifeguard-regiment.jpg)

http://www.warlordgames.com/26455/new-wallensteins-lifeguard/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/26455/new-wallensteins-lifeguard/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 01, 2012, 10:00:37 PM
Maybe it΄s rude to have two straight posts, but I need to put this in writing somewhere: Foundry are serious about their rejuvenation. I just had a mail conversation with Marcus Ansell, explaining that I wish to have more puff n΄slash greenskins for my army, and it ended with him adding half a dozen packs of Mercenary Ogres (well, they are orcs really) to their site that had been withdrawn ages ago for reasons unknown. More will come, and I΄ll buy them. My Marienburger army just grows and grows (600+ infantry now).

Now that΄s customer relations, GW.

Akbar, after reading your post, I went ahead and sent marcus an email thanking him for the changes made at foundry, and also inquired about any other mercenary orcs or ogres.  I got an email back, and they have put up SEVEN packs of mercenary orcs (I think that is all the remaining unreleased ones).  All told that is 20 new (to us at least) poses of puffy slashy orcs!  Huzzah!   :::cheers:::

I would say that if you are a fan of foundry's stuff, now would be a good time to place an order if you are pleased with what they are doing.  It's one thing to commend their progress, but the progress is useless if they don't see financial returns from it.  I plan on placing an order soon for mainly that reason - to put  my money where my mouth is.

Also, in the same email I asked about their discontinued packs in a few ranges:

Arthurian 4 packs
Franks/Saxons 1 pack
German 14 packs
Picts 2 packs

His response:

Quote
Some of the Arthurian and German packs have already been put back on the website. Here are the lists of the unreleased  pack names from the ranges you were interested in:
 
        LR032    Dark Age Arthurian Or Frankish Or Gothic Cavalry Command                                     
        LR033    Dark Age Arthurian Or Frankish Or Gothic Cavalry
 
 
        FS009    Frank And Saxon Casualties
 
 
        AG002   Suebi Warriors                                         
        AG005   Suebi Cavalry                                           
        AG006   Suebi Cavalry                                                   
        AG010   Chatti Cavalry                                           
        AG013   Chatti Veterans                                                       
        AG017A        Savage German Warriors                                                     
        AG018A        Savage German Warriors                                     
        AG019   Germanic Cavalry                                           
        AG021   Germanic Cavalry                                           
        AG022   Suebi Cavalry                                                   
 
        PICT007        Pict Chariot                                       
        PICT008        Pict Command Characters
 
Let me know if you’d like to order any of these and I’ll get them back on the website for you.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 01, 2012, 10:10:19 PM
Diverting the discussion (briefly) from Foundry...

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dark-futures/zombie-vixens

Undead cuties!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 01, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
Those look pretty cool.  I don't do Post-Apoc stuff, but it looks like their quality is starting to improve. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 01, 2012, 10:34:33 PM

Akbar, after reading your post, I went ahead and sent marcus an email thanking him for the changes made at foundry, and also inquired about any other mercenary orcs or ogres.  I got an email back, and they have put up SEVEN packs of mercenary orcs (I think that is all the remaining unreleased ones).  All told that is 20 new (to us at least) poses of puffy slashy orcs!  Huzzah!   :::cheers:::

I would say that if you are a fan of foundry's stuff, now would be a good time to place an order if you are pleased with what they are doing.  It's one thing to commend their progress, but the progress is useless if they don't see financial returns from it.  I plan on placing an order soon for mainly that reason - to put  my money where my mouth is.
[/quote]

Oh, I will tomorrow. Amazing what simple emails can do sometimes.  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 01, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
Can't believe there isn't more love for LAF/Ratnik's Brugelburg range on this site.

To be honest, if I wasn't perpetually broke lately I would buy & paint a ton of:

Brugelburg
White Knight Dwarfs
Foundry Ogres/Great Orcs

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 02, 2012, 01:10:37 AM
Those look pretty cool.  I don't do Post-Apoc stuff, but it looks like their quality is starting to improve.

I am a big fan of Wargames Factory - they are cheap and cheerful models. They certainly aren't up to the standard of GW, but I do like them. And the price is VERY good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 02, 2012, 09:02:44 PM

OK - I give in.

 I have pinged Foundry with three photos of Merc Ogres I know about that they haven't shown yet.

I am surprised White Knight hasn't chipped in - I mean him and Kev Adams are in business together ..............   :closed-eyes:

I might have some spares for trade too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Update after my email:
(I sent three pics, I had, of ones not listed)

Quote
Hi Mark,

We seem to have made some of those orcs available despite not having the moulds here (unless they are hiding). I’ve almost certainly seen the two painted orcs whilst searching for the others.
My present inclination is to not touch anything until we can assess what has been done in error.
The last chap I do not know though. Those I know will definitely be on their way back!

Cheers,

Alex. (Marcus is at college)

2 painted were:
Gnothagam the Proud or Yamizorgl Dragonbreath
and
Drogathog the Vigilant and Watchtower

The last one was a Merc orc with a halberd / polearm in his left hand - a picture from White Knight

So some of those shown may not have moulds - I hope you haven't ordered stuff only to be disappointed guys.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 03, 2012, 06:13:15 PM
Isn΄t Drogathog this one? He΄s been up for a long time, but in the orclings section.

http://wargamesfoundry.com/fantasy_ranges/single_packs/orclings/any/orcling_watchtower_orcb003/?sector_id=

About Orcs displayed without having moulds....well, we΄ll see. I ordered all the new ogres and all orcs except ORCP089. Hope they won΄t let me down.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2012, 06:28:27 PM

Oh that's a good spot - (genuine thanks)

Never thought to look in that section for a Mercenary Ogre  (Sarcasm at Foundry placement)

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 03, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
I am surprised White Knight hasn't chipped in - I mean him and Kev Adams are in business together ..............   :closed-eyes:

I've sent you all I had ages ago.  :engel:

And Kev doesn't have pictures or even copies of those models.

Though they do complement the goblin landsknecht range I'm doing with him perfectly.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 03, 2012, 11:44:05 PM

Though they do complement the goblin landsknecht range I'm doing with him perfectly.  :closed-eyes:

True, but those orcs could use a nice command section, don't you think?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 04, 2012, 10:14:31 AM
I'll consider it. Though there are already a couple command figures in the packs and you could press a couple of the war orcs command figures into service as well (which is what I did, though I converted them to have more puff).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 04, 2012, 01:26:09 PM
If you look at the separation Foundry have made between what is an ogre and what is an orc I find some of them questionable.

Some of the ogres are on the small side, and some of the supposed orcs are quite large.

Fustabrook for example is an orc apparently, but would make a good unit champion.

The Drogathog the Vigilant is a good standard bearer option, and there are musicians as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 04, 2012, 03:14:03 PM
In the end, you can just make your own separation based on what looks right. Kev Adams himself said initially they were all just orcs. It just turned out that some ended up bigger than others and the distinction was operated post fact.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 04, 2012, 07:25:21 PM
Fustabrook sounds like a relative of phillyt
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 05, 2012, 07:11:42 PM
Ratnik strikes again with greatswords!

(http://i065.radikal.ru/1209/59/f88d8208811b.jpg)

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=46677.0

So, they have sculpted and released cannons and crews, halberdiers and xbows, and they have WIP sculpts of handgunners, greatswords, swordsmen, and also sniper teams.  Pretty much just need some cavalry and they got most of the empire covered in the Bruegelburg range!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 05, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Well, they have a pigrider in the pipeline......

The best thing about them is how well they mix with the foundry orcs, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on October 05, 2012, 08:53:12 PM
I am very tempted by the landsknecht cannons of Ratnik. Nothing short of ace.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 08, 2012, 11:18:08 AM
http://www.warlordgames.com/27299/new-polish-winged-hussars/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/27299/new-polish-winged-hussars/)

(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/WGB-17-Winged-Hussars-b-600x502.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on October 08, 2012, 01:02:51 PM
Ewww Polish people. Nice models though. Maybe I'll do kislev.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 08, 2012, 01:26:10 PM
Ewww Polish people.

What is that supposed to mean?  :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 08, 2012, 02:45:11 PM
I was just going to post those!  Kislevites rejoice!

I think the models look great.  I hope to get a unit, but will wait to order them from maelstrom or something like that at a discount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 08, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
Today is, I think, national pierogi day.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on October 09, 2012, 01:30:01 AM
Ewww Polish people.

What is that supposed to mean?  :Ohmy:
Nothing.....  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 11, 2012, 01:53:06 AM
Does anyone have any experience with / comments on Warlord Game's models? I am specifically asking about the metal figures, the ones from the Immortal Miniatures line they bought in, and also the Imperial Roman Civilians. The Immortal ones look very nice, but the Imperial Roman Civilians don't look quite as nice - but that might be a poor paint job.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 11, 2012, 10:40:59 AM
Wolsung Assistant.....they made a minitature based on Rufus!

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/MAS_Wolsung-Lab-Assistant.jpg)

Well one would need to model shorts on it though....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 15, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
(http://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/media/catalog/product/f/u/full-frt.jpg)

If someone has 300 € lying around.....what a great dragon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on October 17, 2012, 06:59:16 AM
TAG (The Assault Group) has a whole slew of greens for the Italian Wars/early Renaissance period on the workbench. In Warhammer terms: Tileans!

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaConSwo1.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaConSwo4.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaConSwo3.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro1.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro8.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro2.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMtdCro10.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/AlbStrSid1.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/AlbStrSid6.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/AlbStrSid5.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMilBow01.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMilBow10.jpg)
(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMilBow04.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMilBow07.jpg)(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/ItaMilBow18.jpg)

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/ (http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 17, 2012, 07:05:26 AM
Mounted Crossbows are ace the rest is not my cup of tea.....the horses look half asleep.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 17, 2012, 08:47:44 AM
I like 'em all. Once I get this next batch out of the way, I reckon they might be up for sale. I think I am accidentally making a whole new army (done this several times as RP or merc' company collections suddenly hit the point at which I might as well go the whole way and make them into an army.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 20, 2012, 08:09:11 AM
A friend pointed these out to me. Has the site been linked to yet?

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=12&Itemid=95

Certainly good news for any cavalry based army. My Brets might have to get dusted off
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 20, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
A friend pointed these out to me. Has the site been linked to yet?

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=12&Itemid=95

Certainly good news for any cavalry based army. My Brets might have to get dusted off

Wow that's amazing .....................


Not the figures - we discussed them 20 pages back ..............


But that Shav has a friend ...............................


 :biggriin:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 20, 2012, 03:18:15 PM
A friend pointed these out to me. Has the site been linked to yet?

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=12&Itemid=95

Certainly good news for any cavalry based army. My Brets might have to get dusted off

Wow that's amazing .....................


Not the figures - we discussed them 20 pages back ..............


But that Shav has a friend ...............................


 :biggriin:
Your wit is surpassed only by your age, surely, sir.

Has anyone bought them yet? Are they too small?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 20, 2012, 03:44:37 PM
I have all three sets and intend to buy the infantry set due next month.
They are similar to Perry stuff both in scale and style - real life rather than heroic, not as chunkys as GW - they wouldn't mix with Bret knights in a unit, but fine independently.

There were several painted units at Salute back in April - and they looked stunning.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on October 20, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
They do look really good.
And using GW knights, for example, as Grail knights, you can use the templar knights as KOTR and the Teutonic knights as... well... something else (too ill to think at the moment. To be quite truthful, I sneezed this morning and my left ear has went deaf).

I have Perry miniatures (I think) from the war of the roses. They're quite good too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on October 21, 2012, 07:01:08 AM
I use Perry WOTR as an Empire army, but had these been available when I started the project, I would be uing them for a Bretonnian army instead.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 21, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
I like the Teutonic figures being produced by Fireforge.  They do seem to have more of a Bretonnian feel though.

From the picture on Fireforge's site, the infantry have 6 options for bodies, with 8 bodies per sprue, yet two of the bodies are duplicates.  Kind of like they were running up against some internal deadline, and didn't bother to make all 8 of them different.  With Perry's WotRs and Euro Mercs, granted they're of a different time period, but they've provided 12 different bodies on a sprue, and that doesn't include the one's on the command sprue.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 29, 2012, 06:16:30 PM
A wild unsubstantiated rumor appears!

Just read on the Wargames Factory forums that Dwarfs with blackpowder weapons are "coming next week". Post is dated 17th Sept, so they should be here now, but release schedules can be iffy.

In any case; wild rumor is wild. WGF stuff is generally speaking about $20 for 30 figures, and they are multipart and fun.

I dislike Dwarfs myself, BUT if they are interesting and characterful they could be good for certain armies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 29, 2012, 09:10:20 PM
Is there a link to where the dwarf statement is?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 29, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2010/09/17/tech-level/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on October 30, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
I'm afraid that is from 2 years ago...
Look at the date at the bottom of the announcement post
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 30, 2012, 01:55:12 AM
Yep, only the most recent post of 10/29/2012 is after all the other posts done in 2010.

They have a thread somewhere that mentions waiting until the Liberty and Union League post gets beyond the 2% it currently has.  Which I suspect isn't anytime soon.  If the Liberty and Union League even exists anymore.  Its still on the website, but I ahve no idea if it has any meaning at this point.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 30, 2012, 11:29:50 AM
Oooops! My bad, guys :(

But little WGF Dwarfs would be fun. They should totally do them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 30, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
Probably yes.  Previous ownership wanted to make them and believe they had figures in design, but there's been a change and the current ownership doesn't seem to be interested at the moment.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 30, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Hippies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on November 05, 2012, 05:48:04 PM
Update on my dealings with foundry (see above post 1465 and onwards):

I ordered all the re-released renaissance orcs/ogres. There was a minor cockup with my order; they could not find the moulds for some of the orcs posted on the website, 4 out of 16 I think. I was a bit disappointed of course, but my god was I compensated....in the end I received models for about 220 euros for free - all the orcs they could find moulds for and some other stuff. Communication was very good through the entire process, and I honestly think they went bit TOO far. They do have to make money after all.

In the future, I will order more stuff. I feel I have been treated very well by them.

Sadly, the re-released ones were withdrawn from the shop. This is because they did not want to risk any further incidents; they will be put back on. Below is part of an email from Marcus Ansell:

I took the orcs off the website again because some of  the ones that had been discontinued are either scattered around the factory randomly or the models themselves are on the wrong moulds. I’ll have to wait until I have enough time to spend a day at the factory sorting them out.
On the bright side, we found lots of masters of orcs that have never been released before. It’ll be a while before they are out but they will appear at some point. The same with the dwarves, there are at least twenty models made by Kevin Adams and Mike Owen which we will be able to release in the distant future.

So, all in all, I΄m very satisfied. Foundry handled this well, the orcs will reappear (AND more dwarfs!) and my army just grows and grows - their elisabethean spanish swordsmen goes well with the orcs...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 05, 2012, 05:59:29 PM
Wargames Factory (on whom I have a small mancrush) have announced the War of Spanish Succession artillery.

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2012/11/03/bring-up-the-guns/

Box art (no pics of models yet);

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/9271_10151212902074454_1493149263_n.jpg)

Likely to be a $20 price point. Probably smaller guns than the Great Cannon, but may be useful.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 05, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
Their publicist has seemed to confirm the rumors in that same thread.

Not sure how well these will really work for Empire, but perhaps they'll make a good addition to some WSS figures that I'm slowly working on.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 05, 2012, 11:23:54 PM
Some new heroes / mordheim charachters from Raging Heroes, that I imagine will be pretty popular with some folks. ;)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0034/6452/files/kurganovas-fant-wip-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on November 05, 2012, 11:26:37 PM
I got a lot ahold of a bunch of Darklands/Banelords figures. I give them a 8/10. The detail is amazing but the manufacturer made some questionable design/assembly choices. For instance, the making the banners and the banner poles single pieces. I also wouldn't recommend them to anyone who isn't comfortable heating/bending resin.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 06, 2012, 12:04:42 PM
@cjp : There was a whole thread discussing those little pieces of fanservice here http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=44118.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 06, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
@cjp : There was a whole thread discussing those little pieces of fapservice here http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=44118.0


...fixed that...  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 12, 2012, 07:49:29 PM
Ah ha! Sorry, missed the other thread. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 12, 2012, 07:57:49 PM
They are taking pre-orders for them now - I am considering ordering some in December. They will fit very nicely in my new army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 14, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
Female mercenary:

(http://www.brother-vinni.com/gallery/28mm/hilda.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 14, 2012, 03:50:53 PM
Female mercenary:

(http://www.brother-vinni.com/gallery/28mm/hilda.jpg)

Bad move WK

My Paypal refund for non-delivered Maelstrom stuff is funds already allocated for gaming - I had planned to do an order for halflings and dwarfs ........... but if you start promoting other stuff ......... well who knows.

 :engel:





Actually Vinni has already posted the pic in his own thread .................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 14, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
It deserves to be posted again - that is a lovely model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 14, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
It has a skull and leaf motif on the shield! :icon_eek: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 14, 2012, 07:58:27 PM
Bad move WK

My Paypal refund for non-delivered Maelstrom stuff is funds already allocated for gaming - I had planned to do an order for halflings and dwarfs ........... but if you start promoting other stuff ......... well who knows.

Yeah, but it's only one resin model, surely you'd much rather have a bunch of metal you can build into units instead?  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 22, 2012, 01:32:28 PM
Those Perry plastics. I was a little confused by their description. It said things like "up to 12" and whatnot.

How many dudes can you make from one box? Is looks like a lot but I want to be sure...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 22, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Those Perry plastics. I was a little confused by their description. It said things like "up to 12" and whatnot.

How many dudes can you make from one box? Is looks like a lot but I want to be sure...

Which ones? I think you get 40 infantry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 22, 2012, 03:59:42 PM
Yep, for the Perry plastic infantry fgor the WotR and the Euro Mercs, it's 40 to a box.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on November 22, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
Wow, great value!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on November 22, 2012, 05:07:47 PM
Yes, they are!


Quote
It said things like "up to 12" and whatnot.

Because there's a limited number of each weapon option. So for example with the european mercenaries, you can't make more than 12 of the 40 guys into handgunners.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 22, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
Just looking at the Pro Gloria facebook site:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Pro-Gloria-Miniatures/295957277188332?fref=ts

Some nice greens for their rank and file landsknechts! 

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601466_299484390168954_1780738016_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/76481_299830136801046_154753263_n.jpg)

Not in production yet, but when they are it will be even more nice alternatives to the pyjama-clad shoeless empire soldier  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on November 22, 2012, 08:27:56 PM
Stronghold terrain "thinker", to go with their outhouse. I want one.  :biggriin:

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Thinker-Pose.jpg)

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Thinkers-Kit-394x301.jpg)

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Outhouse-with-Miniature-394x301.jpg)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/terrain/stronghold-terrain-thinking-toilet/ (http://www.beastsofwar.com/terrain/stronghold-terrain-thinking-toilet/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 23, 2012, 12:23:08 AM
Those Perry plastics. I was a little confused by their description. It said things like "up to 12" and whatnot.

How many dudes can you make from one box? Is looks like a lot but I want to be sure...

You get, as people have said, 40 models, and you can assemble them in various different ways - such as up to 20 spearmen, up to 12 crossbowmen and up to 15 halberds with a command group. Obviously, that adds up to more than the 40, but it is because you have lots of spare arms. You have (for example) 12 sets of crossbow arms but don't need to use 'em all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on November 26, 2012, 01:13:59 AM

Those new Pro Gloria landshkenkts are up for pre-order!:



(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/DSCF002.jpg)
(http://progloria.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/dscf0002.jpg)
(http://progloria.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/dscf0001.jpg)
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/Regulator0/DSCF0012.jpg)
(http://progloria.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/dscf0004.jpg)
(http://progloria.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/dscf0003.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 26, 2012, 01:21:59 AM
Good stuff! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on November 28, 2012, 03:31:51 AM
After a slightly tipsy search, it seems that I can not find a comparison of essex halfing miniatures to GW halfing miniatures on this forum, anyone have a picture or know how similar they are in size? I know essex is 25mm and GW is 28mm, but we all know that is kind of crap these days.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 29, 2012, 12:43:53 AM
(Already posted this on the WGF thread, but this is "another manufacturer's" stuff!)

The new WSS artillery is available. Click for picy (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/media/set/?set=a.10151121996226059.433600.334302786058&type=1)

$20 for two cannons, each with four infantry crew, a mounted officer and a whole bunch of bits.

I fear we will be seeing a fair number of these in Empire armies!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on November 29, 2012, 01:46:29 AM
The crew looks kinda bad but I'll take the cannons!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on December 08, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
Anyone who likes Kev Adams orc sculpts, head over to Foundrys webpage! They are still working on the restoration of their discontinued packs, and any range who gets the most votes (as in emails) will be put back on sale next. Support the Renaissance Orcs/Ogres!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 08, 2012, 11:53:01 PM
Anyone who likes Kev Adams orc sculpts, head over to Foundrys webpage! They are still working on the restoration of their discontinued packs, and any range who gets the most votes (as in emails) will be put back on sale next. Support the Renaissance Orcs/Ogres!

They did have the rest of their ogres/orcs on the website a couple months ago.  I went to place an order a few weeks ago, and they were taken down again.

I inquired about this, and was told they are re-doing the casting molds because they were not arranged properly (ie random historical models on the same mold as the orcs).  Marcus informed me that they should be finished, and will be put up in a couple months, likely when Foundry releases their new website.

I know WK was able to snag the available ones before they were taken down again though, sneaky git  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on December 09, 2012, 06:54:37 AM
I know WK was able to snag the available ones before they were taken down again though, sneaky git  :biggriin:

Oh, I got most of them, too. Well, as long as they are put back on, I think it΄s a good thing if they take some time to get it right.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 09, 2012, 09:18:53 AM
I know WK was able to snag the available ones before they were taken down again though, sneaky git  :biggriin:

Yeah, but then the guy is a loon who needs to resort to having his own range of figures made, just to get his fix.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 18, 2012, 05:39:59 PM
Reaper just released a whole bunch of the Bones figures - very inexpensive, indeed.

http://www.reapermini.com/misc/distributionphotos/Bones_Release_2.pdf

Look at the unicorn! $3!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on December 19, 2012, 01:23:58 AM
I love reaper! Next paycheck is going to evaporate as soon as it gets direct deposited!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on December 19, 2012, 05:53:52 AM
I've gotta say that I love the Bones line. Dirt cheap, quick to paint, no cringing if a figure falls over or multiple layers of varnish to prevent chipping. I've become a huge fan of resin figs in general. I hope the price of soft metals keeps climbing so more minis companies take the plunge.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on December 21, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
Not sure if someone posted this before:
http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_defenders_of_the_realm_grandmaster_of_the_lion_order

(http://titan-forge.com/images/Sklep/prods/78/big_224.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
I had to look really close to see that it wasn't some sort of minotaur riding a demigriff. That lion head is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on December 21, 2012, 08:55:16 PM
I had to look really close to see that it wasn't some sort of minotaur riding a demigriff. That lion head is ridiculous.
Hey Gaudy models sell nowadays  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 29, 2012, 10:40:24 AM
Reaper plastic Cthulhu!

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/77194_p_1_mj.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 29, 2012, 11:33:08 AM
Nice....I wonder why nobody has yet commented the fantastic new Breugelburg Command options for Free company.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/LA_peasant-revolt-at-Schweinstein.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/LA_Bruegelburg-peasant-revolt-at-Schweinstein-1.jpg)

AMAZING!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 29, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
Pig cosplayers? Odd.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 29, 2012, 12:44:37 PM
Schweinebrigade....people did more strange stuff during medieval times.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 30, 2012, 01:51:27 AM
Reaper plastic Cthulhu!

(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/77194_p_1_mj.jpg)


Wow.  :Ohmy:  I need one of those.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 31, 2012, 07:06:40 AM
Ok, so trying too look into the Reaper plastic/bones stuff... Seems like you get cheap plastic pricing if you invest in the kickstarter stuff, but otherwise you're paying regular prices if you want to buy it regularly? Can't even find that Cthulhu.  :|
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on December 31, 2012, 10:08:38 AM
I think plastic Cthulhu hasn't been released yet, that's all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 31, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
The Reaper Bones stuff is on the site - but not a lot is released yet (the Kickstarter stuff WILL be released as normal). The Bones figures are MUCH cheaper than comparable metal figures (and Reaper was never expensive to start with).

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on January 02, 2013, 05:27:40 AM
Nice new ordinance coming from the TAG workbench

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngArtCrew01.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngHvyArt01.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngArtCrew03.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngArtCrew04.jpg)

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Tudor-Artillery-and-crew-295

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 10, 2013, 10:18:16 AM
Ironically the order I placed with Black Tree (that 50% sale was too good!) arrived before Wayland have even sent the order I placed with them the day before

So that's a tentative tick in the Black Tree service column
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 10, 2013, 11:27:45 AM
Wayland Games delivering late? Don't tell me they bought that from Maelstrom too . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 10, 2013, 03:12:20 PM
Ironically the order I placed with Black Tree (that 50% sale was too good!) arrived before Wayland have even sent the order I placed with them the day before

So that's a tentative tick in the Black Tree service column

I've heard some other positive things about them the past year or two. I've been wondering if they've turned around on their service and would probably be willing to try another order too, especially with some of the sales like you mention. Unfortunately, I'm more or less out of painting and gaming until further notice, so no point...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 10, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
Ironically the order I placed with Black Tree (that 50% sale was too good!) arrived before Wayland have even sent the order I placed with them the day before

So that's a tentative tick in the Black Tree service column

Me too - I got some of the 50% - cavalry are not usually in their sales so I jumped in.
I have been buying regularly in their sales and from crap delivery times two years ago, they are pretty quick these days.
They have 40%, 50% and sometimes 70% sales, and as I tend to buy randomly and store for future projects rather than an army at a time, I buy in the sales.

Oh and my comparison was not with Wayland, but with Northstar - I ordered some stuff from them at the same time, late pm on Jan 1st, and it still hasn't arrived - which is pretty unusual - their orders normally arrive within a week.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 10, 2013, 11:50:36 PM
I ordered a few things from Northstar for their New Years sale - tried out a couple of the Dark Ages lucky bags among other things.  Nick emailed saying they had a lot of orders, and were trying to get them all out in good time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 11, 2013, 11:20:17 PM
I ordered a few things from Northstar for their New Years sale - tried out a couple of the Dark Ages lucky bags among other things.  Nick emailed saying they had a lot of orders, and were trying to get them all out in good time.

I did as well and it arrived a couple days ago. Never had any issues dealing with Northstar.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 15, 2013, 05:49:49 AM
God are these ugly
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-134892482847878_2240_1115998)
But they are cheaper than dirt  :::cheers:::
http://www.eccentricminiatures.com/retemb0000.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on January 15, 2013, 02:43:03 PM
Considering they are from eccentric miniatures I was hoping for some Monty Pythons.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 15, 2013, 03:51:51 PM
I think those could work as Monty Pythons - they have that look!

And, to be honest, while they are NOT perfect by any means, I think a box or two of these combined with some spare helmets and other pieces from the Brettonian range could make perfectly serviceable footknights. If there were such things in the army list, of course, and if there weren't OTHER companies making very nice foot sergeants (which, I think, have been shown on this thread earlier).

EDIT : Fireforge http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.481357498550246.114214.271339052885426&type=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on January 16, 2013, 09:53:44 PM
They look like my old Timpo knights from the early 1970s, with arms and legs and heads you popped into place. Aaah, memories.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 17, 2013, 02:07:26 AM
They aren't that cheap compared to other historical plastics.  They are $1 (16 for $16) each while the perry mercenaries are comparatively cheaper (40 for ~$35 retail) and infinitely better detailed, though different figures.  The conquest figures are about $40 for 44 figures.

But yes, I could see them saying such things as 'none shall pass' 'I'll bit your legs off' and 'Ni!'
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 17, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
tjhey are awful.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 17, 2013, 03:10:35 PM
Especially when these are on the way from Fireforge Games:

Quote
Here is a little preview of one of our two incoming heavy infantry plastic sets, Teutonic Infantry.
Stay tuned for a preview of Templar Infantry too very soon.

The Teutonic Infantry set will allow you to build up to 24 Teutonic Sergeants miniatures or up to 12 heavy crossbowmen and/or up to 12 Dismounted Knights.
Here is the details:

Heads - 10 different sergeant heads in two sections, 10 different teutonic knight heads and 4 bonus different heads for a total of 34 heads in the set.

Bodies - 9 different sculpetd infantry bodies in very dynamic and realistic poses.

Melee Weapons - 6 different right arms armed with spears, 2 with swords, 2 axes and 2 maces. Options for a 2h sword and a 2h axe as well as musician arm and standard bearer arm. Considering all the weapon sections, you'll find a total of 12 spears, 4 swords, 4 axes, 4 maces, 2h sword and 2h axe.

Crossbow - 6 different sculpted couple of arms with crossbow. You can build up to 12 heavy foot crossbowmen from the set.

Cloaks - 8 different cloak types not attached to the bodies.

Shields - 4 different shield types and 4 different left arm poses not attached to the shields. There are 24 shields and left arms in the box.

Various - Sword scabbards and crossbow quivers not attached to the bodies as well as musician and standard bearer options.

Aimed release date is late February.

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/133/IMG_0774.JPG)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/133/8.JPG)




More pics and deatils here.

http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=133:teutonic-infantry-preview&Itemid=477

The Foot Sergeants were a box set of 48 minis which seems to be selling for around £25 - £28 in the UK
The new Teutonic ones are described as 24 figures per box, so a lower price unit.


If they are similar in multipart goodness to the Foot Segeants (below) then I am looking forward to  them:

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/galleries/123/IMG_0189.JPG)

To save you going back through all those pages .........

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 17, 2013, 08:23:36 PM
Well those Monty Python knight are perfect for making a proper bretonnian army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 17, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
a properly shit brettonian army you mean.

Those sergeants Mids posted are much nicer
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 12:28:07 AM
Vikings with 2handed weapons.

Midaski....?

These were the best I found, and I do quite like them. But need more variety if I'm going to have a unit of 30. http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=175&cat=4&sub=14&page=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 18, 2013, 02:24:56 AM
Crusader has some Varangian guard in their Byzantine line that would look similar:

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=79&cat=4&sub=9&page=1

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/dab008.jpg)

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=78&cat=4&sub=9&page=1

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/dab007.jpg)

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/dab009.jpg)

Gripping Beast also has a ton of vikings, and good plastic vikings.  I really like their Jomsvikings:

http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=2405

Vikings with Dane axes: http://www.grippingbeast.com/product.php?ItemID=2539

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/photos/newvik06.jpg)

If you aren't too picky they have some anglo-danes / saxons with 2 handed axes: http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=5

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/photos/and04.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
Thanks timbor!

the gripping beast plastics probably don't have enough 2handed weapons from what I've seen.

If I mix in the varingian guard and the anglo-saxons that will do nicely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 18, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
Good looking stuff! And remember that the varangian guard was norse and saxons. And the varangian guard may very well represent viking followers or hirdmen, the professional warriors in service of a chieftain or king.
The anglo-danes are not necessarily different from how late viking age scandinavians would have looked like, especially not western scandinavians who had a long history of contacts with the west.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 10:14:52 AM
I don't care about historical accuracy, these are my warriors of ulric for empire of wolves !
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 18, 2013, 10:24:43 AM
Vikings with 2handed weapons.

Midaski....?

I thought at first you were answering a query I had made.   :biggriin:

Not mentioned so far:
http://www.blacktreedesign.com/uk/home.php?cat=2474

Make sure you sign up as a Premium member - it's purely getting on their mailing list, but you get better discounts all the time logged in.
(http://www.blacktreedesign.com/uk/images/P/da1008.jpg)

(http://www.blacktreedesign.com/uk/images/P/da1004.jpg)

They look better in real life - although they are not GW or Perry sculpts, their images do not do them justice.


I am surprised no-one mentioned Artizan:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=17&cat=117&page=1

(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/img1540.jpg)



Cheap rear rankers possibly from Wargames Factory - their Saxon Thegns are the same bodies as the Viking Hirdmen, and you could always add suitable Empire hairy heads.

Some of the German minis also look suitably 'northern' if you can find them with mail.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 18, 2013, 10:37:50 AM
I have the Crusader varangians! Which I of course bought for my Byzantine army but haven't painted.

I quite like them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 18, 2013, 11:27:28 AM
I have the Crusader varangians! Which I of course bought for my Byzantine army but haven't painted.

I quite like them.

That's good to hear - I am not wholly convinced by Crusader, but I have been reading Beyond the Golden Gate a lot recently and was tempted by some cheap Byzantine heavy cavalry on offer from Northstar last week.

Varangian Guard just seem like really cool troops .....................

Sort of slightly civilised Mathis  :closed-eyes:


I'm also not sure how you tell the difference between huscarls, vikings or varangians, [ or normans even as you cannot see the short hair,]  in full mail with great axes.

Midaski ducks ........... and waits for the wall


 :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
I don’t like those artisan ones, although I really like the doppelsoldners I got from there. So maybe they are better in real life.
I really don’t like the black tree ones… and they aren’t any cheaper.
Although might get the black tree slingers!
Can you buy wargames foundry from the uk, or do they ship from the us?
What about the huscarls and bondi?

Rufus, I think those byzantines are my favourites of them all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on January 18, 2013, 11:52:47 AM
I like the Crusader stuff. It's basically all the same models in slightly different outfits, but they look nice enough! Better than most historicals other than Perry, really. Certainly better than gripping beast.

I have most of the Byzantine range. But I only painted half an army! And the half I have painted isn't even a legal list in Beyond the Golden Gate, since you need three units of regular cavalry before you can field kataphraktoi.


I'm also not sure how you tell the difference between huscarls, vikings or varangians, [ or normans even as you cannot see the short hair,]  in full mail with great axes.

Varangians look richer because they are paid a fortune to guard the Emperor!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
I like the both the gripping beast ones Timbor posted!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on January 18, 2013, 12:29:42 PM
Vikings with 2handed weapons.
Only 25mm, but West Wind (http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DW-502) has some vikings with 2h weapons.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 18, 2013, 12:32:22 PM
I find Gripping Beast a bit pricey, and I don't like the moulded on shield which several of their models have.

Foundry are a UK company based in Nottingham. I popped over there when Chumley organised the Warhammer World weekend December 2011.

You never buy Black Tree at full price.

I have got most of mine at 40% off, and some at 50% or even 70%
Signing up as a Premium member gets you the weekly newsletter, and if you are patient and buy when the offers are there, rather than to hurriedly make a unit then you can pay 70p a figure.

Having said that whatever range it is, there always seem to be some good and some poorer sculpts.

Magister Militum do some Varangians as well I think?

http://www.magistermilitum.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=29&strPageHistory=cat

http://www.magistermilitum.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=7&P_ID=1733&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1269

though the axe looks a poor fit in the hand .....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 18, 2013, 12:34:38 PM
I agree that Crusader seems like it has nicer sculpts than GB in general.  Though Gripping Beast sure has a lot of variety.  Looking forward to your results, Finlay!

The one nice thing about GB is the vast range of LBM transfers for their shields.  You can just buy a pack of their shields and use them with other miniatures though...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 01:45:29 PM
I must say, it is quite good fun looking through the historical stuff to see what is good and what is... not.
Can see the attraction now Mids!

Although I did get confused, I meant to ask if wargames factory can be bought in the uk, not wargames foundry.
for these http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/hammer-of-the-gods/viking-huscarls

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 01:50:59 PM
Vikings with 2handed weapons.
Only 25mm, but West Wind (http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DW-502) has some vikings with 2h weapons.

Hey, I like these!
(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/DW/DW-502.jpg)
need better pictures and would 25mm be miniscule?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 18, 2013, 02:00:52 PM
West Wind are here in the UK,  ........ BUT I couldn't find these Vikings on their website - they do some Saxons in their Arthurain range.

Maybe it's under license to Old Glory in the US.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 02:13:40 PM
by the way, I just found wargames factory on northstar :)

Although their boxes are £16.50, instead of $20.00 (£12.50) and seeing as I only want the double handed ones, it probably wont work out cheaper.

Foundry is too expensive- 2 quid per figure, no thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 18, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
I must say, it is quite good fun looking through the historical stuff to see what is good and what is... not.
Can see the attraction now Mids!
Hmmm ... perhaps the dawning of a new miniholic. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on January 18, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
West Wind are here in the UK,  ........ BUT I couldn't find these Vikings on their website - they do some Saxons in their Arthurain range.

Maybe it's under license to Old Glory in the US.
They're "Nordvolk" under the "Dwarf Wars" range.  Not precisely vikings.

This seems to be a comparison of Marauders to the Nordvolk:
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1603/dsc00026xq.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 18, 2013, 02:45:18 PM
by the way, I just found wargames factory on northstar :)

Although their boxes are £16.50, instead of $20.00 (£12.50) and seeing as I only want the double handed ones, it probably wont work out cheaper.

Foundry is too expensive- 2 quid per figure, no thanks!

Northstar are at list price, and they charge 10% shipping.  Another place I only buy in their bargains / sales  :engel:

You can get WF cheaper and post free if you hunt around - Caliver, Stafford Games I think, and there's a couple of others who have appeared after the death of Maelstrom.

Of course you could always kitbash a few from Marauders and Free Company.

Also I haven't bought Foundry direct for years. On the visit mentioned up the thread, they had 'bargain bins' where blisters were £3 each, so 50p a figure, and if you go to shows there are a couple of dealers who have piles of old blisters going cheap.

However if you are trying to make May 17th you are on a deadline, so waiting for sales or shows is probably not practical.



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on January 18, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
How anyone can mistake the Norvolk fantasy barbarians for vikings is beyond me... So many bare arms and silly wests... Brrr... Shame on you!

And the Varangian guard was the job all vikings with any sense for advancement and careermaking wanted to be in. It was the lid of lid, for the king of kings. If you could boast you had served in the guard you had something to boast about and would have job offers streaming over you from all sides.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 18, 2013, 07:15:24 PM
Those Fireforge figures look good!

The West Wind figures also seem good, though it's hard to tell from either photo. I've got a few West Wind figures (18th century stuff), and they are big compared to most 15/28mm figures. Sort of like the pic from zifnab0 indicates. Probably go better with GW than with Crusader, etc. Personally, I prefer the greater variety of poses & such in a unit like than than in the plastic marauders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 18, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
I don't have any WestWind fantasy stuff, but I got some of their historical arthurians, and they are much chunkier than Crusader and most GB stuff.  Far bigger than Foundry.  I might assume their fantasy stuff would be of similar size?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 18, 2013, 07:39:45 PM
West wind dwarfs!

Cheap and OK!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 18, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
Finlay, you would have liked this...

I got some of Northstar's Dark Ages lucky bags (among other things) in their New Year's sale and the package arrived today - 20 miniatures per bag, spares from castings in the dark ages ranges from Crusader and Artizan.  They were on sale for I think 10 quid for a bag of 20.  In each bag, I got about 10 two-handed axemen.  Looks like I have pretty much a unit of two-handed ulrican axemen sorted, eh?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 19, 2013, 12:46:42 AM
If you hadn't been so helpful....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on January 19, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
I don't have any WestWind fantasy stuff, but I got some of their historical arthurians, and they are much chunkier than Crusader and most GB stuff.  Far bigger than Foundry.  I might assume their fantasy stuff would be of similar size?

Actually their fantasy stuff is considerably bigger than their historical stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 20, 2013, 10:56:55 PM
This just in from Foundry:

Quote
MACEDONIAN, PERSIAN AND ASSYRIAN RERELEASED PACKS

Over the last six months, we have been steadily rereleasing the many models that were discontinued over the previous six years.  There are only 800 or so packs left to go.  We will almost certainly have them all out this year. Let us know if you have preferences as to what we should cast up next.

Regardless of whether models have been formally rereleased, we are still very happy to hunt down the moulds of discontinued packs and cast them especially for you.  This may delay your order by a couple of days.  We haven't come up with a way of handling this through this website: so I'm afraid that you will have to contact us directly.  Ideally by phone.
 

This Month We Are Rereleasing 15, 6 and 6 Packs from Each of our Macedonian, Persian and Assyrian ranges respectively.
 
This means that all our Macedonians and Persians are now up on our website. We will put the 11 remaining packs of Assyrians up next time.
 

BUY TWO GET ONE FREE.
We notice that the reappearance of long discontinued models is no longer met with quite the same level of awed enthusiasm as might have been the case some months back.  So, to celebrate our first six months at the helm, and to spark things up a bit, we are offering a sort of Flash Deal.  If it goes down well we may repeat it next year!
 
Only until the end of January, for every two packs that you buy, from any combination of the rereleased Macedonian, Persian and Assyrian models shown below, you will receive a third free pack of your choice of any of those rereleased models. This is one third off.

List which extra packs you’d like in the comments box when you place your order.  Otherwise, we’ll make sure that we choose something appropriate for you.
 
Regrettably, you cannot combine the discount on these models with any other of our offers or discounts!  Normal postage rates apply.

So if you buy any 2 macedonian, persian, or assyrian packs, you get 1 of the rerelased packs for free.  Pretty good deal, too bad I don't collect any of those armies!  I checked with Foundry and they said free shipping over whatever value still applies (somewhere around $120).  So, if you collect macedonians, persians, or assyrians, here's your chance to get some for 30% off!

Good on Foundry.  I hope that they get enough support from interested hobbyists to be financially rewarded for all this re-releasing of their ranges.  Folks seem happy they are doing it, but I guess the numbers will speak for themselves in due time.  If they do this when they permanently re-release those renaissance orc packs... hoo-boy!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 21, 2013, 05:49:06 AM
Oooh!  Thanks for the heads up on this.

Just got done buying 137 Immortal Assyrians on sale, and then there was the Foundry Assyrian Kalapani that I found in a hobby store.  Not sure more will be bought at this point, but I'll certainly take a look.  We'll see if I can resist or not.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on January 24, 2013, 11:48:55 PM
Ebay sale from Foundry is on. Mostly napoleonics so far, but something good might show up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on January 26, 2013, 03:32:13 AM
Get your alternate kislevs here!

Hungarian horse archers from eBob. Going to be sold through someone else though

(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379671_528353300518655_526735493_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321413_528353263851992_691744807_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/46303_528353237185328_1530234479_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/735202_528353307185321_919850763_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252781_528353383851980_179891171_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/46286_528353403851978_456293521_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150066_528353397185312_561412294_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/536959_528353440518641_1973699160_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 26, 2013, 03:36:07 AM
I want a hat like theirs!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 26, 2013, 07:30:26 PM
Got a box of Wargames Factory Samurai Cavalry today. Pretty nice IMO.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on January 28, 2013, 12:57:11 AM
More goodies from Ratnik:
(http://s3.uploads.ru/q0aWo.jpg)
(http://s3.uploads.ru/vMKnV.jpg)
(http://s2.uploads.ru/OwqBA.jpg)
(http://s2.uploads.ru/FBHTP.jpg)

More here: http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=48703.30
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 28, 2013, 01:13:39 AM
Does anyone know if these guys have an American distributor? I don't think so but I sure wish they did!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 28, 2013, 01:34:54 AM
I don't think they do either, but shipping is quite reasonable from them... shipping outside of europe is 4,90 EUR for up to 500 g, 8,90 EUR for up to 2000 g, and anything heavier than 2000g is 35,00 EUR.

So... about $12USD for up to 2kg (read ~5lbs) of miniatures.  I ordered the entire Bruegelburg collection sometime last year, and was not over 2kg to ship it.  Bonus for me, I got charged no customs or taxes on the way into Canada either.  Must have been that the border people couldn't read all the German on the package or something.

What exactly is holding you back from ordering directly from Germany?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 28, 2013, 01:59:37 AM
Shipping & tax but I think it may be fine. I've been surprised before by looking at an invoice and it costing quite a bit more than I anticipated.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 28, 2013, 02:41:22 AM
I am not sure what it is like for you in the USA, but in Canada I am lucky enough that not all packages sent through the postal system get stopped for taxes (as opposed to couriers who do their own customs and charge taxes and brokerage on absolutely everything).  Ones that are over $100 might get stopped 1/10 or something like that, and I just pay sales tax plus maybe $5 for a handling fee.  Most smaller packages never get stopped.  If I were to buy those items in Canada from a retailer, I would pay tax on everything I buy (13% where I live). 

You can be pretty sure that for small companies like LAF, you won't likely find retailers selling it for 20% off like the warstore or something, so the only benefit of finding a US distributor is to support that US specific company.  For myself, I would rather see more of the funds go to the actual producers of such fantastic miniatures, unless I had a personal connection to a distributor this side of the pond.

Also, keep in mind that the prices on their store include 19% sales tax for Germany.  If you are from a foreign country, you are not charged those taxes.  I am pretty sure it adjusts automatically in your cart once you specify your country.  I was pleasantly surprised when I discovered that.

I had a great experience ordering from LAF, and plan to do more orders once they release some of those amazing sculpts they have been taunting us with over the past few months!

Of course, YMMV, as my experiences have been with the customs fees and policies of a different (if not slightly similar) country to yours.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on January 28, 2013, 02:57:27 AM
My eye developed a severe twitch when you said 19% sales tax then I read the rest  :laugh:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on February 03, 2013, 03:23:39 AM
Quote
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.481357498550246.114214.271339052885426&type=1
I don't understand why companies don't do this sort of photoshoot with all their models, nothing is more off-putting than not being able to see what it is you're buying.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 04, 2013, 10:36:20 AM
Seriously, those medieval minis looks awesome!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 04, 2013, 12:33:21 PM
When I bought my last batch of historical stuff, I found a website where only some of the miniatures actually had photos- the rest had drawings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 04, 2013, 01:20:30 PM
When I bought my last batch of historical stuff, I found a website where only some of the miniatures actually had photos- the rest had drawings.

True there are still some manufacturers yet to take advantage of the art of photography and the internet.
A lot of them still do most of their business from shows, though it is changing.

It is quite interesting to go to a decent show as you can actually see and handle minis up close. Sometimes even good pictures can give a false impression.
Scale is one concern - is it 25mm, or 28mm, or large 28mm?
Are the sculpts chunky - are the weapons heroic or realistic or somewhere inbetween?

Indeed a great paint job can suggest detail that isn't there.

Salute has to be the biggest and best at London Excel in April - most people of note are there.
SELWG in October at Crystal Palace in London is also quite good, though probably around one quarter to one third of the size.

There are deals to be had, but I usually make a list of stuff I want to look at - to see if it is any good and worth buying.
Quite often you can buy it better online.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 04, 2013, 01:47:06 PM
I just buy so little historical stuff it wouldn't be worth it.

If you cant be arsed to buy a light box from ebay like chumley and fr1day have, and take pictures of your minis, I can't be arsed to buy from you.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 04, 2013, 02:24:12 PM

Well the shows aren't all historical you know ......................

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 05, 2013, 12:36:55 AM
Quote
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.481357498550246.114214.271339052885426&type=1
I don't understand why companies don't do this sort of photoshoot with all their models, nothing is more off-putting than not being able to see what it is you're buying.

Unless the model is really bad, and then actually seeing what you are buying might be more off-putting . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on February 05, 2013, 05:11:04 PM
Which is a great tactic if your business plan is to go bankrupt.  :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 06, 2013, 04:36:58 AM
I found some perfect Kossars for a Kislev army. http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DIF-33
They have some terrible pictures
(http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/prodimages/DIF/DIF-33.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 06, 2013, 05:50:36 AM

When I bought my last batch of historical stuff, I found a website where only some of the miniatures actually had photos- the rest had drawings.

Some of them don't even have the line drawings. "Line infantry, standing at ready." Thanks! That's good enough, I can totally picture exactly what it looks like in my mind, don't bother trying to sell me anything with photos. Pixels cost money, and there's a pixel shortage, don't you know!  :wink:


I just buy so little historical stuff it wouldn't be worth it.

If you cant be arsed to buy a light box from ebay like chumley and fr1day have, and take pictures of your minis, I can't be arsed to buy from you.

Unpainted miniatures don't need a sophisticated setup at all. 15+ years ago I was putting figures on a scanner. On unpainted figures that would work even better. Even now, for my painted figures, all I use is a regular desk lamp or two.

On the other hand, there's a newer generation of companies that handle the "high tech" marketing very well.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 08, 2013, 12:00:44 AM
Foundry has rereleased some WoTR packs, along with some ancient Germans and Babylonians.  They are offering these packs at buy 2-get-1 free for February.  Some of the armoured infantry would be nice for empire greatswords/reiksguard...

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/m3.jpg)

http://wargamesfoundry.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 08, 2013, 12:07:11 AM
Those are so old though. I have the original GW versions of some of those!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on February 08, 2013, 01:35:57 AM
Those look amazing
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 08, 2013, 01:49:33 PM
I just bought a box of Victrix Napoleonics - obviously not new figures, but really very nice indeed. Anyone looking for 28mm Napoleonics could do much worse than grab a box of these; they were about $35 for 52 figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on February 08, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
More hotness coming from TAG's tudor range  :icon_eek:

infantry, tudor nobles, spanish gendarmes, borderers....man.... this whole project is getting me wet, I must confess. :)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngCoaPik1.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngCoaPik2.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngCoaPik13.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngCoaPik14.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngCoaPik11.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngBoaSwo1.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngKniLan1.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/EngKniSwo3.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/SpaGetSwo2.jpg)

More on the workbench pages over at TAG:  http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/ 

 :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 08, 2013, 09:46:40 PM
I love the foot and the non knight horse.

Don't like the knights really.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on February 08, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
I΄d love to love them, they are totally right in their timeperiod.  But no, they do not rock my boat at all. Too chunky in general and butt-ugly horses. I΄d say Foundrys Elisabethean and swashbuckler infantry are superior.

Luckily Pro Gloria are producing better infantry and soon cavalry too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on February 09, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
I like them. Perhaps I'll use them for some future project - in the future, that is, when they're available.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on February 11, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
Some Picts from Tanatus Miniatures, available through North Star:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T9u-o2nLXAE/URiUBubdxsI/AAAAAAAAB14/nK5KWiE-o1c/s1600/IMG_6947.JPG)

http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2013/02/painted-picts.html (http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2013/02/painted-picts.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 11, 2013, 09:33:05 PM
The champion has got a massive nose. Great palette........NOT
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on February 11, 2013, 09:36:18 PM
Some Picts from Tanatus Miniatures, available through North Star:
Well, they are painted models, but no Picts.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 11, 2013, 09:47:44 PM
they are not good
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on February 13, 2013, 08:49:47 AM
I just buy so little historical stuff it wouldn't be worth it.

If you cant be arsed to buy a light box from ebay like chumley and fr1day have, and take pictures of your minis, I can't be arsed to buy from you.

You can even make one out of a cardboard box and a white sheet that works just as well!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 14, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
That was positively the most crapy painted picts/generic migration period barbarians I have seen! I did not know the picts were cloned from one single person, nor dad they had strictly enforced uniforms... :dry:

I love their shields, perfect for germanic warriors of the period. All in all, they would all work well as rank and file germanoic warriors of the later empire and migration period.

And the shields... So sweet shield bosses! Makes my heart grow warm and fuzzy. But if thee paingter had done a modicum study of the period, for example read the excellent source book from old WAB, Fall of the West. The romans used the shield designs to identify their units and it seem very likely the germanic tribes did the same. That germanic shields were decorated and painted is shown by finds from the danish warbooty sacrifices, but we do not have enough finds to see if there were consistent designs for specific warbands. It seems likely, however, since the warbooty sacrifices indicate that the armies of northern Europe were organized along roman lines, even if the equipment for each warrior did not match a roman soldier.  Shield, spears and some sidearm was standard, unless you were an archr. Warriors belts were germanic verions of roman soldier belts, and in some cases you have roman equipφment that seem to belong to veterans who have serving in the roman army. Fact is you even have the kit of a roman officiial with the duty of keeping check of the border and gather intelligence from inside Germania Libera. He seems to have ended up on the losing side in a local war.

 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 14, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
that TAG kickstarter is coming up soon and certainly has my attention...these would make an excellent proxy empire force.

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on February 15, 2013, 02:42:02 AM
That was positively the most crapy painted picts/generic migration period barbarians I have seen!

(http://rlv.zcache.com/okay_guy_sticker-p217206722781704182bah05_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 15, 2013, 02:57:54 AM
I like them..... they are kind of uniform though, which is not normal for barbarians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on February 15, 2013, 03:24:21 AM
I didn't paint them as barbarians per se because I plan to use them in my Empire army and also as armed medieval peasants in my fantasy skirmish.

They are nice figures, so hopefully my paint-job didn't do the manufacturers a disservice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 15, 2013, 08:18:31 AM
That was positively the most crapy painted picts/generic migration period barbarians I have seen! I did not know the picts were cloned from one single person, nor dad they had strictly enforced uniforms... :dry:

I love their shields, perfect for germanic warriors of the period. All in all, they would all work well as rank and file germanoic warriors of the later empire and migration period.

And the shields... So sweet shield bosses! Makes my heart grow warm and fuzzy. But if thee paingter had done a modicum study of the period, for example read the excellent source book from old WAB, Fall of the West. The romans used the shield designs to identify their units and it seem very likely the germanic tribes did the same. That germanic shields were decorated and painted is shown by finds from the danish warbooty sacrifices, but we do not have enough finds to see if there were consistent designs for specific warbands. It seems likely, however, since the warbooty sacrifices indicate that the armies of northern Europe were organized along roman lines, even if the equipment for each warrior did not match a roman soldier.  Shield, spears and some sidearm was standard, unless you were an archr. Warriors belts were germanic verions of roman soldier belts, and in some cases you have roman equipφment that seem to belong to veterans who have serving in the roman army. Fact is you even have the kit of a roman officiial with the duty of keeping check of the border and gather intelligence from inside Germania Libera. He seems to have ended up on the losing side in a local war.

Ahh, now there dear heart, I would argue that these are not migration era Picts, but late dark age picts. They are not bad figures for that, although I would have expected the R&F to be bare legged and bare footed. Now, your late Pict and Scotti shields for R&F were generally plain brown leather covered shields with little to no decoration. The Picts were far flung Welsh effectively, being P culture trash as opposed to Q culture goodness and fought in warbands in the Welsh way (time of Kenneth McAlpine) but by the time of the Kingdom of Alba started fighting in shield walls armed and equipped as those figures are (earlier ones used longer two handed spears) Those figures are good for fighting the wars of Constantine to MacBeth, but I would still prefer them bare legged.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on February 15, 2013, 08:29:25 AM
They are based on c. 7th century, apparently.

They have leggings, but I suppose they can be painted with bare knees.

They have figures using long spears two-handed too:

(http://www.northstarfigures.com/images/0/img880.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on February 15, 2013, 08:35:10 AM
Some of the old Gripping Beast ones were very nice (and some were abortions), but I am not sure about the current range.

trouble is you are paying Gripping Beast Prices for 1st Corps quality as they were designed by Rob Baker - so why would I want to do that?

the figures you've show are much nicer posed and look more natural.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 15, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
What kind of archaeological or historical evidence is there for an early use of two-handed spears at that date (5-6th century AD). I have only seen one single probably pictish depiction of a man wielding a long twohanded spear while being protected by a man with shield and axe.
Was this a very pictish fighting style?

Today it is kinda widespread among re-enactors to use long twohanded spears but in the old days, using spears twohanded as far as I know something more for the later medieval period, besides that mentioned pictish image that I do not know the exact date for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: phillyt on February 15, 2013, 03:39:03 PM
Err... Mathi, that was a pretty douchy statement about those painted models.  Not wanting to point any fingers, but you aren't exactly a pro-painter are you?

I thought they were fine paint jobs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 15, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
It is not what I would have said - the detailed comments I couldn't make, as I lack the knowledge of the era. Still, they are (technically speaking) the worst-painted picts I have ever seen, and also the best, as they are the ONLY painted picts I have seen.

They look fine to me - simply painted, with a fairly uniform color scheme. I don't see how that is really a problem for basic, rude warriors - but perhaps (historically) they would have other colors on them. I'd be happy to have them in my army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 15, 2013, 11:23:46 PM
Philly, way to misunderstand my comment. No I am no pro-painter but I could easily have made a better job on those. Reason, I would NOT have painted them all into clones.
The fact they are all in the same colour is why I call it a crap paint job! Especially since they are supposed to repredent a historical group of warriors.
There were no uniforms back then. And certainly not among the picts. For a group of warriors to be that identically coloured you would have needed a cheiftain who was able to accuire a shitload of cloth from the same dyying, or from a very evenly coloured sheepstock giving the whole cloth a similar colour allover. A natural colour, that means undyed cloth, would be the cheapest. The colour in itself is not unlikely, it looks good. BUT that all warriors look like copies of each other is just wrong. I would have chosen to dress the warriors in tunics of different colour. One would get off-white, one begie, another grey and maybe some a cloth of a cheap dye, a yellow one for example.
The champion might have a fancier one, say red or blue, or green. He may be better of, having sword and all, so a more flashy colour for his clothes seems appropriate.

That is how I would do it and the lack of diversity is why I call the crappy painted. I would have called the paintjob crappy had they all looked the same but been of Golden Demon standard!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: phillyt on February 15, 2013, 11:31:01 PM
Well I know, but it was a bit extreme.  I thought they were bland but not a bad paint job necessarily.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 16, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
Philly, way to misunderstand my comment. No I am no pro-painter but I could easily have made a better job on those. Reason, I would NOT have painted them all into clones.
The fact they are all in the same colour is why I call it a crap paint job! Especially since they are supposed to repredent a historical group of warriors.
There were no uniforms back then. And certainly not among the picts. For a group of warriors to be that identically coloured you would have needed a cheiftain who was able to accuire a shitload of cloth from the same dyying, or from a very evenly coloured sheepstock giving the whole cloth a similar colour allover. A natural colour, that means undyed cloth, would be the cheapest. The colour in itself is not unlikely, it looks good. BUT that all warriors look like copies of each other is just wrong. I would have chosen to dress the warriors in tunics of different colour. One would get off-white, one begie, another grey and maybe some a cloth of a cheap dye, a yellow one for example.
The champion might have a fancier one, say red or blue, or green. He may be better of, having sword and all, so a more flashy colour for his clothes seems appropriate.

That is how I would do it and the lack of diversity is why I call the crappy painted. I would have called the paintjob crappy had they all looked the same but been of Golden Demon standard!

Well since they weren't actually being used to represent picts....
I didn't paint them as barbarians per se because I plan to use them in my Empire army and also as armed medieval peasants in my fantasy skirmish.

They are nice figures, so hopefully my paint-job didn't do the manufacturers a disservice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 16, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
Ok, sorry!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on February 17, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
This sounds like a lot of the 'discussions ' of hysterical :roll: sorry historical gamers and one of the reasons I enjoy fantasy so much. :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 17, 2013, 09:22:52 PM
This sounds like a lot of the 'discussions ' of hysterical :roll: sorry historical gamers and one of the reasons I enjoy fantasy so much. :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:
::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::
BURN THE HERETIC!!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on February 17, 2013, 09:55:11 PM
In March it will be 41 years of gaming ,so great to be thought of as a heretic not part of the establishment especially as in the real world I  work for David and Nick :ph34r:
as for the 'picts' yet another too speedy paint job hiding the potential and quality of the figures. :evil:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 17, 2013, 10:39:11 PM
Well I know, but it was a bit extreme.  I thought they were bland but not a bad paint job necessarily.

Agrreed paint job was fine- palette is boring.

And I don't think the minis are good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 18, 2013, 01:14:20 AM
This sounds like a lot of the 'discussions ' of hysterical :roll: sorry historical gamers and one of the reasons I enjoy fantasy so much. :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:

Those obsessive sorts of people are in a minority among the historical gaming crowd. Most historical gamers I have known believe in varying degrees of "close enough."

And to be honest, I've met far, far more detail obsessed 40k gamers who will jump all over you for using the wrong shade of blue on your marines, or kit-based weapons, etc.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on February 18, 2013, 01:31:56 AM
People used to let me use my greatsworders as Doppelsoldiers, skulls and all!
Same with my friends brettonia / hyw english army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on February 18, 2013, 01:33:41 PM
ZeroTwentythree I'm glad to hear that , maybe its refreshingly different in the US and too introspective in the UK.
All rule systems have their obsessive fan boys and not forgetting that most ancient historical information is either conjectore,fantasy ,propaganda written by monks & scribes /or oral history /legend by the victors.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 18, 2013, 02:26:47 PM
 :blush: Or examined by archaeologists like me.

I am honestly sorry. Because I somehow assumed that the minis shown were an example painted by the firm that prroduced them. My aspie nerdiness went through the roof and I blew my top faster than you can say... Ah, you get the point. I never realized, thanks to not reading properly, that the minis were pained by the poster and were to be used as something rather different.

Ehhh... Carry on!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on February 18, 2013, 02:32:28 PM
:blush: Or examined by archaeologists like me.

I am honestly sorry. Because I somehow assumed that the minis shown were an example painted by the firm that prroduced them. My aspie nerdiness went through the roof and I blew my top faster than you can say... Ah, you get the point. I never realized, thanks to not reading properly, that the minis were pained by the poster and were to be used as something rather different.

Ehhh... Carry on!


Good of you to apologise.... I thought as much btw, knowing you as a softie...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 18, 2013, 04:21:08 PM
In March it will be 41 years of gaming ,so great to be thought of as a heretic not part of the establishment especially as in the real world I  work for David and Nick :ph34r:

What's it like working there, must be great handling figures all day - Northstar are never the cheapest, but they are a good outfit and I buy a lot of my stuff from them ................. 

 I usually see Nick at Salute, and Dave was there the year before helping launch Clash of Empires

:engel:



Like Mathi I did express surprise at the 'uniform' look of the paint job, as one usually sees that sort of figure given a distinctly non-uniform look.
I suspect an 'in period' paint job would see a much different reaction.
Having said that they are not a manufacturer I have ever seen much mention of before.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on February 18, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
 :Ohmy: Guys its Cameron and Clegg :Ohmy: not the North Star posse :blush: too subtle.
Mathi my sister is an archeologist too[dark ages] :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 18, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
:Ohmy: Guys its Cameron and Clegg :Ohmy: not the North Star posse :blush: too subtle.
Mathi my sister is an archeologist too[dark ages] :icon_lol:

My  :engel:  not a big enough clue - oh wait linked to a politician won't see humour, sarcasm, irony or subtlety ............   :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on February 19, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
Nice one Midaski : official title public sector drone. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on February 21, 2013, 03:55:00 AM
I can't believe I haven't seen any of these in an Empire forum!! (Pro Gloria Figures)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/321462_326287217488671_1138745697_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on February 21, 2013, 07:12:36 AM
Ah, Pro Gloria. A fine little company. They have heavy cavalry in the pipeline, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on February 21, 2013, 08:47:55 AM
Ah, Pro Gloria. A fine little company. They have heavy cavalry in the pipeline, too.

I can't wait what they'll do for their gendarmes!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 21, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
nice pikes! like them a lot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2013, 01:41:42 PM
When I bought my last batch of historical stuff, I found a website where only some of the miniatures actually had photos- the rest had drawings.
True there are still some manufacturers yet to take advantage of the art of photography and the internet.
A lot of them still do most of their business from shows, though it is changing.

It is quite interesting to go to a decent show as you can actually see and handle minis up close. Sometimes even good pictures can give a false impression.
Scale is one concern - is it 25mm, or 28mm, or large 28mm?
Are the sculpts chunky - are the weapons heroic or realistic or somewhere inbetween?

Indeed a great paint job can suggest detail that isn't there.

Salute has to be the biggest and best at London Excel in April - most people of note are there.
SELWG in October at Crystal Palace in London is also quite good, though probably around one quarter to one third of the size.

There are deals to be had, but I usually make a list of stuff I want to look at - to see if it is any good and worth buying.
Quite often you can buy it better online.
I agree.  Nothing like seeing the real thing, or getting an in person deal on something at a convention.  The booth retailers have paid for a spot, plus their room and board, and they're looking to make an immediate amount back.  Sometimes that means putting up a last minute sale half way through the convention, and having patience on what to buy can really pay off nicely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2013, 01:44:43 PM
Foundry has rereleased some WoTR packs, along with some ancient Germans and Babylonians.  They are offering these packs at buy 2-get-1 free for February.  Some of the armoured infantry would be nice for empire greatswords/reiksguard...

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/m3.jpg)

http://wargamesfoundry.com/
Does foundry ship to the U.S.?

I once emailed them some questions on product, and didn't get a reply, so I'm wondering if they even care about a sale to a little guy like me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2013, 01:46:39 PM
I just bought a box of Victrix Napoleonics - obviously not new figures, but really very nice indeed. Anyone looking for 28mm Napoleonics could do much worse than grab a box of these; they were about $35 for 52 figures.
Yep good stuff for Napoleonics.  I recently finished a constructing a unit of 4 bases x 4 figures for 16 minis, and they were a bit fiddly with parts, but worth it for those who like having variety in their line of Napoleonics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
I didn't paint them as barbarians per se because I plan to use them in my Empire army and also as armed medieval peasants in my fantasy skirmish.

They are nice figures, so hopefully my paint-job didn't do the manufacturers a disservice.
I think they look fine.  I'd recommend giving them a bit more variety in color, but other than that, good effort.  I like the figures, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 21, 2013, 01:55:56 PM
I can't believe I haven't seen any of these in an Empire forum!! (Pro Gloria Figures)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/321462_326287217488671_1138745697_n.jpg)
Those are gorgeous!  Need to look them up, and maybe get some.

(GP ... focus man, wouldja?)

Oh, right, gotcha.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 21, 2013, 02:45:07 PM
Yeah...these are lovely...and the PJs on these examples are stellar!  I see a unit of these in my future!

I love a good pike block... :closed-eyes:

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on February 21, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Foundry has rereleased some WoTR packs, along with some ancient Germans and Babylonians.  They are offering these packs at buy 2-get-1 free for February.  Some of the armoured infantry would be nice for empire greatswords/reiksguard...

(http://gallery.mailchimp.com/c387bacdcec2214a5ed65e7d9/images/m3.jpg)

http://wargamesfoundry.com/
Does foundry ship to the U.S.?

I once emailed them some questions on product, and didn't get a reply, so I'm wondering if they even care about a sale to a little guy like me.

I think they do. Be persistent, and if you have to, mail the managers. Marcus always answer.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 22, 2013, 03:55:00 AM
I ordered something from them a couple of weeks ago - arrived without any problems, delivered promptly to the USA. Good communication, too. Nice people. Recommended.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 22, 2013, 04:25:02 AM
Yes, they ship worldwide, and they have decent shipping rates.  Orders over ~$120 ship free worldwide.  If you email marcus @ wargamesfoundry. com you usually get a reply quickly.  Pretty good folk to deal with.  I ordered a bunch of their ancient german cavalry in this months deal.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on February 22, 2013, 02:06:17 PM
Now I want some pikes...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on February 25, 2013, 05:46:26 AM
Men-at-arms in plate armour with great weapons from Mirliton's Late Medieval range.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zdz1iQO4rGE/USr5IpxH9VI/AAAAAAAAB6c/o3p3mSin9cY/s1600/IMG_6970.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 26, 2013, 07:21:52 PM
Lead adventure miniatures has released their 6th wave of Bruegelburg miniatures:

http://www.lead-adventure.com/index.php?cPath=22

Merchants, Arquebusiers, Greatswords, Sharpshooters

(http://www.lead-adventure.com/images/BRU-DEAL-06.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on February 27, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Fantastic minis!  I've just placed a small order of arquebusiers and a sharpshooter team....very Interested to see if the hand gunners will
Work with the late 3rd edition metal citadel handgunners....it would be nice to add a little diversity to my unit.

Of course I'll post a comparison shot when they get here.

I wish I could afford the whole lot....I've gotta keep playing the lotto!

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 27, 2013, 11:48:18 PM
you could also stop playing the lotto and put that money towards miniatures... just sayin  :engel:

Looking forward to the comparisons.  Not sure I can manage anything from this release for a few weeks yet...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on February 28, 2013, 09:01:37 AM
Oh they are so pretty
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 01, 2013, 04:06:25 AM
Foundry has started using their ebay store and are selling select ranges at 25% off.  RoW shipping is a flat 5GBP.  Currently, ranges on the ebay store include the perry landsknechts (I think), ex citadel medieval stuff, ex citadel samurai, vikings, and a bunch of other stuff:

http://stores.ebay.ca/WARGAMES-FOUNDRY

Good progress indeed, though I don't see the point of putting discounted stuff on ebay and pay the ebay fees while selling it for more on their own webstore... just make the webstore items cheaper and save the 10% you pay to ebay...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on March 01, 2013, 04:46:59 AM
damn, some of those original norse are sweettttt
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2013, 01:48:41 PM
Foundry has started using their ebay store and are selling select ranges at 25% off.  RoW shipping is a flat 5GBP. 

I've been monitoring the UK version for a week or two now

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_from=&_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ssn=foundryminiatures&rt=nc

- they promoted it here via email as though it was a SALE of excess stock - problem is 25% is not enough - they are still over priced.  :engel:

They are supposed to be going to Salute this year for the first time for ages - maybe they will have their 'bargain bins'.

There are usually a couple of stalls with some Foundry blisters and I have been known to browse through them and select the odd few -  :closed-eyes:  especially when you can get a deal at around £4 a blister.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 01, 2013, 05:25:20 PM
Some rather cool looking future infantry, perhaps suitable for Imperial Guard. http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dreamforge-games
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
Not my cup of tea, but maybe some of you evil ones might like them .......

(http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/images/chaos%20demon%20spawn.jpg)

Conquest Games - bit different from his Dark Age Normans   :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 01, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Some rather cool looking future infantry, perhaps suitable for Imperial Guard. http://wargamesfactory.com/webstore/dreamforge-games

I very loosely watched the kickstarter for that stuff.  Quite a bit more pricey than the usual WF fare - especially the big walker thing.  Sure its 8.5"tall, but its still a generic figure for mostly a counts-as futuristic fare, and it costs $120.  How tall is the silly GK dreadknight diaper-marine-walker thingy that is half the price? http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1340003&prodId=prod1160010a
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 02, 2013, 08:11:43 PM
The price of the walker did shock me, but the cost of the infantry ($2.20 per figure, basically) didn't seem too high - especially as they look like really nice sculpts. Compared to the GW stuff at $2.90 a figure, that isn't bad. They have a very unique look which would work well for some armies (such as Inquisitorial forces - likely what I will use them for).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 02, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Do they have their own ruleset to play?  If they are purely 'not-40k' spin offs, then they would need to be considerably cheaper to do well, IMO.  I guess the figures are produced and packaged by WF, but were developed by a different company?  That would explain why they don't follow the traditional WF pricing strategy of dirt cheap...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 03, 2013, 01:29:13 AM
Yeah, I think they have their own game / background. They aren't just generic troops. And they are a different company - I think Dreamforge is a ruleset maker, and they contracted WF to do the design and tooling.

To be honest, they look nicer than the regular WF models. I'm actually pretty excited about them. If the FLGS has some in next time I go, I might grab a box.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 03, 2013, 02:39:00 AM
In the brief look I had, they did look like better models with crisper details.  However I don't collect sci-fi, mainly out of fear of turning my basement into an episode of 'hoarders' since I already have so much fantasy and historical stuff  :blush:... so these models aren't of big interest to me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on March 03, 2013, 08:12:11 AM
Snap! No sci fi for me for exactly the same reason.

Oh, except for the boxes of kitbashed airfix sci fi vehicles made in the mid 1980s. But I haven't used them since circa 1990, except when I used them in Star Wars D6 RP (up until about two years ago). 15mm figures, 20 mm vehicles. So, they're the exception that proves the rule.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on March 10, 2013, 02:45:23 AM
Fantastic minis!  I've just placed a small order of arquebusiers and a sharpshooter team....very Interested to see if the hand gunners will
Work with the late 3rd edition metal citadel handgunners....it would be nice to add a little diversity to my unit.

Of course I'll post a comparison shot when they get here.

Alright guys here are the shots wit the new LAM arquebusiers

First the unit as it was

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/4CE1C40C-FC6B-4B1C-94A2-5E482270A4CF-1226-0000015C9BD62A4A_zpsa5f82ab2.jpg)

And here it is with the four LAM figures worked in

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/263AD0E8-EA10-4CE7-B93E-B44353D81465-1226-0000015CA633FCDC_zps512beddf.jpg)

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/D9765046-D482-47D1-B397-932981677ACB-1226-0000015CB89E09A5_zpsbe4ed4ea.jpg)

How do you think they look mixed in?  The LAM ones are a bit stockier and certainly more elaborately decorated but not out of reason.

Here are a couple of side by side shots of selected figures they alternate maker.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/0C6D8F8A-6CC8-42C5-9DF4-130BB254174B-1226-0000015CC211920B_zps2f987aca.jpg)

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/csabick/039CE32B-E7F9-40CA-B082-E52907670C5B-1226-0000015CC92A81C4_zpsf71415ff.jpg)

Great figures all...I think they work fairly well...would probably be better as a separate unit but this works for now...can't wait to paint them!

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 10, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
More fantasy minis from Conquest Games

Crypt Guardians

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/High%20Fantasy/skeletons_zps32bf7715.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on March 12, 2013, 12:13:25 AM
Does anyone own some of the mounted Bohemia troops models that were posted at some point in this thread?

http://www.horcata.eu/category/cavalry/
(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-1-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/light-cav-2-jpg/)


I would love to see some size comparison with GW models (especially if they fit on GW horses or not). Apparently they are supposed to be used with Front Rank horses, so a size comparison with those instead would probably do as well. I know we have a size comparison thread, but this thread here seems to be more alive. I hope someone can help.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 12, 2013, 05:00:49 PM


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/cavcomp4.jpg)

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/cavcomp3.jpg)


Front Rank horses are small compared to GW (and the photos above show the barded knight horse, which is already small compared to other GW horses, including the outriders...) But there is not as much of a difference between the Front Rank riders as there is with the horses. I don't have a separate photo of just the riders. You can sort of see this in the pics above. Maybe a photo of some infantry might be a good way to show this?

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/PK4.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on March 12, 2013, 10:51:20 PM
Thanks alot 023. The Front Rank minis seem to be of similar size as the the 5th edition human mercenaries, so the same should apply to those Bohemia troops. With this knowledge I might order some.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 13, 2013, 12:42:15 AM
Does anyone own some of the mounted Bohemia troops models that were posted at some point in this thread?

http://www.horcata.eu/category/cavalry/
(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/heavy-cav-1-jpg/)

(http://www.horcata.eu/picture/2/light-cav-2-jpg/)

I would love to see some size comparison with GW models (especially if they fit on GW horses or not). Apparently they are supposed to be used with Front Rank horses, so a size comparison with those instead would probably do as well. I know we have a size comparison thread, but this thread here seems to be more alive. I hope someone can help.  :unsure:
Those look very good!  Thanks for posting. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Davros on March 13, 2013, 11:25:25 AM
Yes excellent minis !!!  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 13, 2013, 02:42:35 PM
Wargames Factory have new and exciting Apocalypse Survivors coming soon - http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.10151300327236059.1073741826.334302786058&type=3
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 13, 2013, 05:34:47 PM
Quick question.

Anyone know anything about a sculptor called Ronnie Shilton?

Foundry have some regiments sets at half price on their ebay site and several are attributed to Ronnie Shilton.

I can't tell if they are the new figures released for the Condottiere rules a couple of years back.

 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 14, 2013, 12:19:28 AM
Wargames Factory have new and exciting Apocalypse Survivors coming soon - http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.10151300327236059.1073741826.334302786058&type=3
I like them...... and it's not just because they don't cause any pain on my bank account.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 14, 2013, 06:17:35 AM
Those Zombie survivors are really good...and great presentation too with those paint jobs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 14, 2013, 10:41:36 AM
Quick question.

Anyone know anything about a sculptor called Ronnie Shilton?

Foundry have some regiments sets at half price on their ebay site and several are attributed to Ronnie Shilton.

I can't tell if they are the new figures released for the Condottiere rules a couple of years back.

I can΄t tell you anything about mr Shilton, but I can confirm that the Condottiere are on ebay (among a lot of other stuff). Possibly the worst collection of historicals ever released. Now, don΄t tell me you΄re gonna buy them? When their excellent Perrys are on sale too?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 14, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
They have had the decency to 'name' the sculptor of each regiment set on sale, so you can see whether it was the Perrys ..... or Mark Copplestone, or Michael Percy, or the aforementioned Mr Shilton.

There was a discussion in this very thread I think about the figures that accompanied the release of the Condottiere rules set, and they were pretty ropey.

The question was aimed at working out which sets were from that batch or release?

I have orderd some stuff  :engel: - the Perrys Late Roman cavalry units, some Hussars, and I risked the Italian Artillery set.   :engel:

I am quite tempted by the Gendarmes - even if the Italian ones are the French on the foundry website.
 
Some Foundry quotes from emails and website

Quote
From some point after 2005, a number of the new models made at Foundry were of either of a substandard quality or inappropriate in style.
Where a model obviously doesn't fit that style, we think that it really should be taken out of the Foundry ranges.  We think that our customers have a right to expect us to maintain a consistent general style.
We have already removed the hundreds of packs of Napoleonic models that were made over the last seven years to replace Michael and Alan's ranges. We currently have no plans to put them back in production.
 
We will shortly start taking down all the models on our website that we regard as "UnFoundrylike".
We will continue to manufacture these models permanently, but will give them their own independent website with a new name. Until we sort a new website out we will put them up on eBay ("THE CASTING ROOM: Budget Wargames Miniatures!"). As they go up on eBay, we will remove them from our main website.


Quote
We will probably also take advantage of this clearance opportunity to sell off all the packs lurking within our ranges that we're really not very fond of.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 14, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
You mean this one right, "Medieval Artillery BRMED512"? It΄s their old guns, released under other names such as :"Renaissance Mercenary Gunners and Demi Cannon REN028". They have replaced the Perry crew with models from the Condottieri release.

The guns only are for sale for 3.5£ each.

The gendarmes are not to my liking, but to each his own. I΄d  take the "Renaissance Knights REN015" or similar, and give them Perry horses from their plastic range - it΄s a pity Foundrys fine knights only have 2-3 different horses. Or just use the Perry Plastics as they are.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 14, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
It was BRREN509  and for £12.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Renaissance-Italian-Artillery-Regiment-BRREN509-/00/s/MTEzWDM0MA==/z/G30AAOxyY9VRPRr5/$T2eC16V,!ygE9s7HI712BRPRr4sc4g~~60_12.JPG)

2 machines and 8 figures - reasonable enough.

It's also a bit confusing about the numbers in the packs - the Perrys cavalry regiments are 10 figures, the Copplestone Hussars were 12 - not sure about the Gendarmes - I guess 12.

I understand they are bringing a lot of stuff to sell off at Salute - and that the Merc Ogres will be there too.  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 14, 2013, 04:45:38 PM
It was BRREN509  and for £12.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Renaissance-Italian-Artillery-Regiment-BRREN509-/00/s/MTEzWDM0MA==/z/G30AAOxyY9VRPRr5/$T2eC16V,!ygE9s7HI712BRPRr4sc4g~~60_12.JPG)

2 machines and 8 figures - reasonable enough.

It's also a bit confusing about the numbers in the packs - the Perrys cavalry regiments are 10 figures, the Copplestone Hussars were 12 - not sure about the Gendarmes - I guess 12.

I understand they are bringing a lot of stuff to sell off at Salute - and that the Merc Ogres will be there too.  :engel:


Damn you english and your events that I΄d like to attend!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 14, 2013, 06:55:13 PM
Do you have a link to the Foundry eBay store (for those of us too lazy to look for ourselves)?

I'm also a bit confused, are they discontinuing the Kev Adams ogres? I've always wanted to grab some of the others, but the prices have always put me off. If they are clearing them out or discounting them, I may be tempted...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on March 14, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
Midaski I have a few of the "shilton" italians and landsknechts whilst not perry's they are workman like and fit in with the miragliano and bronzino series.
Some are lazy sculpts like some of the GW 1992 empire figs,others just benefit from a descent paint job (not an acid flashback  :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:)see website .
N>B> they are a lot easier to paint than Perrys. ::heretic::
They fit in with my Perry,pro gloria, LAF,GW,gamezone,marauder,copplestone -hinchcliffe,dixon etc.
Soon to be seen in the Von Trinkenessen chronicles coming to a convention in the south of england from the summer onwards and Salute 2014 :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 14, 2013, 09:13:59 PM
I think it was on the last page .................. but cos I like you

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/foundryminiatures/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

It should be one £5.00 postage fee for you folks across the pond however many packs you buy.

It does appear the Ron Shilton sculpts are dodgy.
I thought I'd risk these

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Renaissance-German-Landsknecht-Sword-and-Buckler-Regiment-BRREN520-/00/s/MTExWDM0MA==/z/ugAAAMXQAx9RPRzG/$T2eC16JHJIkE9qU3iyHoBRPRzGdc4g~~60_12.JPG)

16 figures for £12.00 ........ so 75p each           they might do for back rankers

 :engel:

There is some talk of dropping  Fantasy ranges, but it may be recent sculpts. The best way to get a feel for the thing is go to their Historicals home page and read down the blogs, skipping the pictures.

There is much talk of the good old days, and the good old sculptors, and a suggestion that the last few years have been poor.

I will be having a browse through their bargain bins.   :engel:


Soon to be seen in the Von Trinkenessen chronicles coming to a convention in the south of england from the summer onwards and Salute 2014 :Ohmy:

That deserves some clarification .................

 :icon_question:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 14, 2013, 09:32:39 PM
I΄ve had a long email conversation with Marcus Ansell of Foundry, and what he says is that they will not drop the orcs and dwarfs from their fantasy range as they are among the best they got, but that they might be taken of the homepage for some time due to reorganisation of the fantasy range and re-release of discontinued packs and previously unreleased packs (dwarfs, mainly).  I believe that has just happened. They may get a separate homepage, but they are highly unlikely to disappear.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 14, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
I remember the old days when ebay was just an auction site.

So for someone unfamiliar with the buying side of ebay, is Foundry just selling those figures they got there at a discount, and a buyer can buy as many as desired?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 14, 2013, 09:45:57 PM
Yes, they are selling at a discount. Quite a large one actually. Yes. you may buy as many as you like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 14, 2013, 10:08:44 PM
Well - how large the discount is could be debated.

The regiment packs are supposedly half the price - but that is half the price of the individual models if you bought them in the normal blister packs.

The normal blister packs are usually £12 for infantry and £13 for cavalry I think.
Those blister packs on their ebay site seem to mainly be at £9.00 so around 20% but you need to buy a few to spread the postage cost.

I have always thought Foundry stuff was over priced anyway so only buy when I see it discounted and discounted heavily ............  :engel:

If you are going to buy then beware the postage - the auctions/buy it now say £4 and extra buys are free, but the site was addding 50p per extra purchase.
I have pointed this out in a telephone call with Neil about 10 hours ago, but not sure if they have corrected it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 16, 2013, 10:51:56 AM
I am looking into manufacturers of late romans. Who makes those besides Blacktree?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 16, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
There some on those pages of ebay that Midaski provided a link to a few posts above, if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 16, 2013, 12:42:19 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/foundryminiatures/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

It should be one £5.00 postage fee for you folks across the pond however many packs you buy.
Regarding this link ... where can the names of the scupltors be seen?

And which person is it that scuplted the newest Condottierre figures so I can avoid them?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Kirgan on March 16, 2013, 01:05:53 PM
http://www.custommademinis.com/en/shop/fantasy/F0803000/paint/5/#navigation-row   :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 16, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
I am looking into manufacturers of late romans. Who makes those besides Blacktree?

Are you looking for late Roman, or Arthurian Romano-British?

Gripping Beast and Musketeer Miniatures (musketeer has some of the nicest, methinks)
http://www.grippingbeast.com/shop.php?CatID=148
http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/store.php?r=25&rule=Historical&id=56

Foundry (their arthurian stuff is smaller than a lot of other companies)
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ancients/british/
http://wargamesfoundry.com/historical_ranges/single_packs/ancients/roman_-_late/

Old Glory makes Arthurians
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/categories.asp?cat=117

West Wind does Arthurians
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=165
The west wind ones paint up  nicely - I have a bunch posted on my blog, along with some GB late romans: http://mylifeinmm.blogspot.ca/2012/09/more-romano-british.html

Armorum and Aquila do some nice 4th century imperial romans
http://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/categories/?c=2

I am sure there are a couple others kicking around.  Perhaps Midaski can enlighten us.  Or go ask on the lead adventure forum.  I will warn you though, that site is more addictive than this one for general miniatures and modelling ideas.


Also, on a similarly related note, I just found this on the book of faces:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/269360_509795429066146_477918237_n.jpg)
For release at Salute 2013
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gripping-Beast/196181460427546

Damn... I gotta get me some of these.  Should be useable as uncivilised types for Arthurian ages and later Dark Ages, methinks.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 16, 2013, 03:44:19 PM
Artizan do some Arthurian (Romano British) - not many but quite nice

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=17&cat=129&page=1


I'd like to see the heads on the sprues of the GB plastics - from the picture most have long hair, so not too suitable for being 'British'   :engel:




@ GP- If you open up the individual unit page and scroll down it says who sculpted it on most of them.
It appears Ronnie Shilton is the one to avoid - some are ok, some are poor, but they are about 75p or to you 1$ so pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 16, 2013, 03:48:25 PM

These could be fun.
Apparently closer to 1:48 rather than our usual 1:56 for 28mm, but I doubt it will be noticed.

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197177_591689440859962_2069230391_n.jpg)

Pegasus Hobbies plastic farm animal set  - Northstar are taking pre-orders  £6.99 seems pretty reasonable to me.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 16, 2013, 04:47:40 PM
Artizan do some Arthurian (Romano British) - not many but quite nice

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=17&cat=129&page=1


I'd like to see the heads on the sprues of the GB plastics - from the picture most have long hair, so not too suitable for being 'British'   :engel:


Well, they could always act as Saxon or Frankish or other barbaric mercenaries, rather than your usual Romano-British soldier.  It would be interesting if you could mix these with the heads from West Wind...

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=165_173&products_id=1249


These could be fun.
Apparently closer to 1:48 rather than our usual 1:56 for 28mm, but I doubt it will be noticed.

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197177_591689440859962_2069230391_n.jpg)

Pegasus Hobbies plastic farm animal set  - Northstar are taking pre-orders  £6.99 seems pretty reasonable to me.



Those do look quite nice, indeed.  Shipping from Northstar is kinda pricey to this side of the pond though.  I will take a closer look.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 16, 2013, 04:51:29 PM
Also, forgot to mention Crusader has a few late roman and romano british options as well:
http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=1&sub=52&page=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 16, 2013, 05:04:40 PM
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=157
Old glory Late Romans are some of my favorites. They don't look the greatest but they are cheap.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on March 18, 2013, 06:05:08 PM
I am after late roman army and germanic warriors aswell. I am planning to paint up the re-enactment group and I am trying to bring into reality. And I think it might be working. If there is a whip (or a centurions cornell stick) there is a way.

Late romans to paint up our chosen unit, Heruli Seniores, around 400AD. Germanic warriors to paint us as we re-enact scandinavians or herulii warriors around 500AD
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 18, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
I would take a look at the Musketeer Saxons for your germanics.  Some of my favourites on the market currently.  The Gedriht are particularly loverly.

(http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/images/figures/sxhgd.jpg)

http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/store.php?r=11&rule=Historical&id=35#

They also have a range of Goths which have some romanized german troops:

http://www.musketeer-miniatures.com/store.php?r=22&rule=Historical&id=53
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 19, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
I like those!  Thanks for posting, hadn't heard of that company before. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 19, 2013, 01:22:22 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g3kdFNqjvrA/UQ2PXWSNM_I/AAAAAAAAC0s/FmuxBhVhSTk/s1600/Twenty+man+Stormtrooper+set+2.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wg-EGSIr9_g/UQ2PZJBTy0I/AAAAAAAAC00/a4_tA7o4INQ/s1600/Support+Werapons+Set+2.jpg)

I like these.
they look like the brotherhood of steel
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on March 19, 2013, 01:36:43 PM
Who are they from?

Instant imperial guard army!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 19, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
They look like Wargames Factory.

I hear the Imperial March in the backround ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNv5sPu0C1E

"What have you done with those plans?!"

"There is a great disturbance in the force."

"I find you're lack of faith disturbing."

"200 million will be crushed, and young Skywalker will be one of us."
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 19, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
Dreamforge.

They are actually more expensive than GW IG!

 :icon_eek:
do not want
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on March 19, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
They are actually more expensive than GW IG!
Dreamforge: $42 for 20 models.
GW IG: $35 for 10 models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 19, 2013, 02:07:45 PM
dreamforge, £31.50 for 20 models
IG £14.40 for 10 models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 19, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
They are quite nice though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 19, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
So are Gw models, for the most part.

When I look for alternate models, normally it's to get them cheaper!

But yeh, I do like them a lot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 19, 2013, 03:00:17 PM
Surely you don't want more IG? You don't like playing them!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 19, 2013, 03:06:25 PM
I got an email from wayland games with new minis, saw these and thought “oo, I like these, will make good alternatives for someone” but didn’t realize they were more expensive.

I’m also looking at other games systems.

Specifically dust, but they are well expensive too!
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/fantasy-flight-games/dust/allied-forces/dust-tactics-french-legion-/-british-commandos/prod_18195.html
£15 for 3 plastic models.

No.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on March 19, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
Those dust ones must be really big, surely!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on March 19, 2013, 03:09:19 PM
IG £14.40 for 10 models.
GW lists IG at £18.  Unless you're assuming a 20% discount.  But you can get Dreamforge at 20% off as well (£22.47).

Cheaper alternatives and better models.  If I were starting an IG army (or any 40k army), I'd probably consider them.

Also, IG are $29, not $35.  GW changed my location to Canada for some reason.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 19, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
I don't know about you americans, and I dont want to add disclaimer "not more expensive if you're american" because I'm not american.



In England- on wayland games, with discount built in to BOTH products (dreamforge knocked from 35 to 31.50), IG are cheaper.
I can't find dreamforge discounted anymore than that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 19, 2013, 04:12:44 PM
Dreamforge.
Good point.

It was a joint deal between Dreamforge and Wargames Factory.

The Imperial March continues, "Da, da, da, da-dada da-dada."

"Do not underestimate the power of the Force."

Or in this case the power of the Forge and the Factory.

 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 19, 2013, 04:57:39 PM
Just in case anyone is interested Northstar have the Mantic Corporation figures on Sale

http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=66&cat=282&sub=431&page=1

Looks like Half Price
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on March 19, 2013, 05:30:50 PM
I don't know about you americans, and I dont want to add disclaimer "not more expensive if you're american" because I'm not american.



In England- on wayland games, with discount built in to BOTH products (dreamforge knocked from 35 to 31.50), IG are cheaper.
I can't find dreamforge discounted anymore than that.
Looks like you can only get a 10% discount.  Odd, because the Warstore offers ~20% discount.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 19, 2013, 06:16:32 PM
I praised those Dreamforge guys like....aaaaages ago.

I like them a lot too they are what defiance games Germans could have been ....well.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 19, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
Review of the large Titan thing which comes with these figures; http://www.beastsofwar.com/dreamforge-games/box-leviathan-crusader/

This model looks absolutely fantastic - it is HUGE. Very impressive indeed. I think it's about $120.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 24, 2013, 07:13:18 AM
For people who might be into Dust Tactics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0rBmNCM9k&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0rBmNCM9k&feature=player_detailpage)

And Dust Warfare basically the tabletop to the boardgame you can use the units of the Boardgame for this too.....it seems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzOd7BGzj9Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzOd7BGzj9Y)

I played a game of Infinity yesterday....and really liked it. I was a bit of scared off by them guys telling me where the whole game goes after starting off (200 pages of special rules were mentioned) but the basics are really easy to pick up and loads of fun.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 24, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
http://www.alternative-armies.com/FL10_Winter_Knights.htm
(http://www.alternative-armies.com/images/fl10_600_1ws.jpg)
Possible Teutogen Guard Alternative?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 24, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
"Me horny. Me so horny."
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 24, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
"Me horny. Me so horny."
(http://1d4chan.org/images/4/40/1227181112539.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 24, 2013, 08:57:58 PM
Another X-box in the offering.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 24, 2013, 09:04:05 PM
is it working now?
If not here: http://1d4chan.org/images/4/40/1227181112539.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 24, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
No. And the link leads to the Forbidden Zone. What kind of vile and unnatural scene of debauchery are you trying to depict here?  ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 24, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
No. And the link leads to the Forbidden Zone. What kind of vile and unnatural scene of debauchery are you trying to depict here?  ::heretic::
Hmmm. It works for me. But yeah. it is pretty bad. here try this one http://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:1227181112539.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 24, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
What? Vile and unnatural debauchery works for you? Where is Sigmar's Inquisition when its expected?!  ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 24, 2013, 09:22:02 PM
What? Vile and unnatural debauchery works for you? Where is Sigmar's Inquisition when its expected?!  ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::
In order to fight such disgusting beings you must know them first! How else do you think I read all 92 glorious pages of our most holy SHIT thread?  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 24, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
Now your defaming the SHIT? That is it - I will officially denounce you as a heretic!  ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 24, 2013, 10:08:41 PM
You cannot question my purity!  ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 25, 2013, 11:06:02 PM
This looks promising! New empire minis from Scibor.

http://www.sciborminiatures.com/ (http://www.sciborminiatures.com/)

....and some more modest looking chaps

(http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics16/img514ffa143418e.jpg)


(http://www.sciborminiatures.com/i/newsy_2009/big/landknecht_green_01.jpg)

......actually these are finished, and ready to sell.

(http://www.sciborminiatures.com/i/2012/big/fantasy_characters_set1_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 25, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
scibor are good but expensive.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on March 25, 2013, 11:27:42 PM
Hmm the ersatz Bret Men at Arms seem fine but the Empire stuff looks crappy, Hunters hat is comically small and the armor on the other fellows look like Space Marine chests jammed on alternate legs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on March 25, 2013, 11:49:28 PM
Those models are pretty strange. The bodies are toy-like in quality, but the heads are very well sculpted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 26, 2013, 12:02:05 AM
I'm rather liking the look of that giant bull.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on March 26, 2013, 12:14:57 AM
scibor are good but expensive.
And unless he has changed the scale, huge compared to GW models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 26, 2013, 07:35:15 AM
Why not post your remarks on their FB page? They are probably a very small company, and most likely interested to hear some constructive criticism of their work. I'm sure they will listen.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on March 26, 2013, 04:44:07 PM
Why not post your remarks on their FB page? They are probably a very small company, and most likely interested to hear some constructive criticism of their work. I'm sure they will listen.

What's a FB page..........
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 26, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
facebook
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on March 27, 2013, 01:58:52 AM
facebook

What's that?  :?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 27, 2013, 02:13:47 AM
facebook

What's that?  :?
It's evil. Stay away from it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 27, 2013, 02:59:11 AM
It's a social media site where you can keep track how gullible your friends are, based on what stupid captioned images they share without question.

Also used to broadcast what you had for lunch to potentially hundreds of people who most likely don't care.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on March 27, 2013, 03:15:25 AM
And for me to post angry political memes and anger my entirely liberal family!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 27, 2013, 12:24:04 PM
And for me to post angry political memes and anger my entirely liberal family!   :mrgreen:

Blood is only redder than water, it seems.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 04, 2013, 05:18:29 PM
I'm not sure if these are new additions to the Pro Gloria product line or not and if they have been posted already - but they look so good and the price is reasonable as well, so I had to post:

(http://shop.progloria.com/images/1.jpg)

(http://shop.progloria.com/images/pikestandcommand-shop.png)

(http://shop.progloria.com/images/pikeI-shop.png)

http://shop.progloria.com/index.php?cPath=34
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 05, 2013, 09:03:34 AM
Gamezone now in plastic resin,  :happy:

(http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/1623-2787-thickbox/dark-light-cavalry-box-plastic-resin.jpg)

(http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/1621-2771-thickbox/lanceros-elfos-oscuros.jpg)

(http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/1624-2791-thickbox/rgto-de-infanteria-elfos-oscuros-resina-plastica-.jpg)24,50€ for 30 figs!

Lets hope Empire is next!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 05, 2013, 12:20:22 PM
Oh boy....Games Workshop really should start to get their act together.

Pro Gloria are fantastic I want to make my halberdiers with those minis. I already got the halberds.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 05, 2013, 01:32:54 PM
Gamezone now in plastic resin,  :happy:

24,50€ for 30 figs!

Lets hope Empire is next!

Where did you find this? Doesn΄t say anything about it on their homepage.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on April 05, 2013, 01:45:06 PM
 :Ohmy:

I want... those elves. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 05, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
dark elf black guard
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 05, 2013, 02:22:21 PM
Gamezone now in plastic resin,  :happy:

24,50€ for 30 figs!

Lets hope Empire is next!

Where did you find this? Doesn΄t say anything about it on their homepage.

It seems that's their new site, while the old  one still lives.

http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/en/ (http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/en/)


:Ohmy:

I want... those elves. :::cheers:::

Yeah, they look so seducive, especially the female musician. If  only a day had 48 hrs. :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 05, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
Wow. This is HUGE. If they change their material (and prices) for their entire line, I΄ll go dancing in the streets.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 05, 2013, 02:55:20 PM
I go along!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 05, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
Holy Crap. I am going to buy as much as I can if dwarves and empire get done.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on April 05, 2013, 03:19:57 PM
agreed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGpgkCE41x8
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 05, 2013, 03:24:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fvLs5KXWYI

I was thinking more like this, but hey, good ol΄Motown will do just as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 06, 2013, 02:31:13 PM
Fireforge are continuing to expand their Medieval / Crusades range.

Firstly there's a pic of the sprue for the recent Foot Sergeants set - 35E for 48 models.

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/IMG_0046.JPG)


Then here are some preview pics of new Teutonic and Templar plastic infantry sets - 24 minis per box.


(http://www.fireforge-games.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/IMG_0904.JPG)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/IMG_0941.JPG)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/IMG_0712.JPG)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/IMG_0865.JPG)

The latter two sets are due for release around the end of April - probably for Salute.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 06, 2013, 02:54:26 PM
... and while we are discussing new stuff.

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/sizeimage.php?size=240&image=photos/HALLHOUSE.jpg)

New 4Ground SAGA Great Hall -  pre-release orders at Salute for £200 each

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/sizeimage.php?size=240&image=photos/HALL18.jpg)

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/sizeimage.php?size=240&image=photos/HALL 16.jpg)

Loads more pics here.

http://www.grippingbeast.com/webpage.php?PageID=1038

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 06, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
I still don't know what to say about that great hall.  Sure it is huge and looks 'great', but 200 quid is the pre-order price and their website says that's a 'substantial' discount from what retail will cost.  That's a pretty steep price for a few bucks worth of mdf and a few minutes of laser time for the producer.  I can imagine they would sell a ton more if it was priced even at 100 quid...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 07, 2013, 03:10:05 PM
Here's a source I hadn't seen before ... Tiger Miniatures ... http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/

Their line of Renaissance Landsknecht figures are here ... http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/page3.htm

U.S. distributor is here ... http://recreationalconflict.lusagi.com/index.html

Bought some Balkan Wars figures on a flea market style table at a recent regional convention, and that's how I blundered into them.  I like their German Colonial figures, too!




Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 08, 2013, 02:05:50 AM
I saw those a few days back and wasn't too impressed - had to check the top of their page again to make sure I wasn't looking at well-sculpted 15mm figures!

Are they better in real life?

Added: Ah, I remember how I came upon that page - I was looking for mules:

(http://www.tigerminiatures.co.uk/USERIMAGES/000_0003-2.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 08, 2013, 11:53:52 AM
They are very inexpensive, though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 09, 2013, 11:53:30 PM
Definitely more suitable for Bretonnia than for the Empire, but might be of interest for some here:

http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1766

(http://www.magabotato.de/images/news/20130410/News3/Magabotato_Scibor_Town_Guard_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 10, 2013, 12:14:02 AM
I like those a lot

But

More expensive than gw!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 10, 2013, 01:41:00 AM
Too bad they don't sell them separately; would love the monk and the jester figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 10, 2013, 08:09:32 AM
They've come out really excellent. Fantastic scuplts. They should sell really well.

I like those a lot

But

More expensive than gw!

I don't think so. Each mini is a unique resin sculpt. Gw sells them at least 10€ a piece, so these would be 120€ in their shop. You would pay this price just for the command group.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 16, 2013, 09:31:57 PM
Foundry has launched their new website.  Historical stuff on it only ATM, the fantasy stuff will come later with its own website.

They have reduced the cost of all packs to about $15USD now.  So, a pack of 8 troopers is now only about $2 each, and a pack of 3 cavalry are only $5 each.  Not too bad.  Though they have suspended all other discounts while they try out the new pricing.

I like the new website so far - its about eighteen times faster than the old site.

Also, apparently the reason why they came out with all of those recent horrible figures was that the old management wanted to replace the perry sculpts to avoid paying royalties to the perry twins.

http://wargamesfoundry.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 17, 2013, 01:48:04 AM
They have reduced the cost of all packs to about $15USD now.  So, a pack of 8 troopers is now only about $2 each, and a pack of 3 cavalry are only $5 each.  Not too bad.


Great news!


I like the new website so far - its about eighteen times faster than the old site.


Great news!



Also, apparently the reason why they came out with all of those recent horrible figures was that the old management wanted to replace the perry sculpts to avoid paying royalties to the perry twins.


I had heard rumors along those lines. Really a shitty thing to do to the talent who made them (Foundry) the best in the business for a long time. Even worse was that they were still charging the premium prices for the sub-par "replacements."

But it's good to see them trying to get back in the game. With the Perry figures back in production and prices in a more reasonable place, they can compete with newer companies being run by their former sculptors. Foundry landsknechts are back on the menu, boys!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on April 17, 2013, 01:56:17 AM
I had heard rumors along those lines. Really a shitty thing to do to the talent who made them (Foundry) the best in the business for a long time. Even worse was that they were still charging the premium prices for the sub-par "replacements."

But it's good to see them trying to get back in the game. With the Perry figures back in production and prices in a more reasonable place, they can compete with newer companies being run by their former sculptors. Foundry landsknechts are back on the menu, boys!

Will the really nice Christmas cards of the past return next...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 17, 2013, 02:19:55 AM
OK, my one criticism -- now that I've actually checked the web page -- is that the images are still the small images they used to have, just displayed larger (and pixelated appropriately.) Doesn't really make them any clearer.

And although the web page is faster, it's a bit ugly & lightly disorganized. It would be nice to see something a little more straight-forward and at least some thought toward aesthetics.

But that's a bit of nit-picking. Like I said, good to see them moving in the right direction.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 21, 2013, 01:46:52 PM
Saw these pics on Lead Adventure Forum:

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/IMG_4234_zps5d338d23.jpg)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/chicks_photos/IMG_4232_zps1745fbe2.jpg)

3-Ups of Perry Miniatures WOTR line, which I use for my Empire army. I already have 20 foot knights painted but I guess I will get the plastic box set when it comes out since fully-plated figures are quick to paint.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 21, 2013, 08:52:19 PM
Plastic foot knights, sweet. I also have a unit of 30 so a 20 strong box set would make them nicely up to 50 for a greatsword horde. That has a nice ring.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on April 21, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
they look very nice indeed, greatswords coming up :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on April 21, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
Look more Bretonnian than Empire, though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 21, 2013, 08:56:07 PM
Was that photo taken at Salute yesterday?

I walked past the Perry stand 3 or 4 times yesterday and I'd forgotten they had said they might show the 3-ups.

Got a few photos I took of some scenery and a 24' x 12' Waterloo board
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 22, 2013, 03:09:01 AM
Yes, Salute.

The foot usually come in boxes of 40, and mounted 12 to 15. 40 extra Greatswords is way more than I need, but at least it should be cheap.

Chronologically, WOTR is somewhat between Bretonnia and Empire. I guess if you favour the longbow, you will go for Bretonnia; if you favour artillery, you will go with Empire.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 22, 2013, 03:44:33 PM
Heavy armored dudes with crossbows on horseback? That might inspire me to get some Outriders - especially if they are plastic and can easily be converted a little. Greek-style, baby!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 23, 2013, 08:55:30 AM
(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/foot_k_550.jpg)
Quote
Foot Knights

This will be a box of 36(?...not sure yet!) foot knights or more acurately, dismounted Men at Arms. They will be all advancing/attacking in pose with seperate arms and heads as usual and will of course be able to be mixed with previous medievil boxes. There is no release date for these yet.



(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/LC_550.JPG)
Quote
'Light' Cavalry 1450-1500

This box will contain 12 mounted figures that can be assembled as either Coustilliers/Hobblers or Mounted Crossbowmen or Mounted Archers. There is no release date for these yet.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on April 23, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
Seriously... 36 of them foot knights!! One box. Most likely cheaper than or equal in price to a GW greatsword box.

Damn, army of knights of Morr. I come to you!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 23, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
4Ground have made some Wild West Buildings - initially to go with Great Escape Games new skirmish game "Dead Man's Hand".
I had a look at the first 6 buildings available at Salute.

3 were £18.00 each, and the 3 larger ones were £36.00

Apparently the range will eventually be 20 strong. 

Wild West or 'wooden construct' buildings probably suit this laser cut manufacture much more than the Dark Age hovels or the modern brick buildings, and I think these looked fantastic.

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Wild%20West/4GWWTown3_zpsec64c30f.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Wild%20West/4GWWTown3_zpsec64c30f.jpg.html)

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Wild%20West/4GWWTown4_zps6a187519.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Wild%20West/4GWWTown4_zps6a187519.jpg.html)

Apologies that these are a bit blurry.

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Wild%20West/4GWWTown5_zpsf045e53e.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Wild%20West/4GWWTown5_zpsf045e53e.jpg.html)

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Wild%20West/4GWWTown6_zps64e4d317.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Wild%20West/4GWWTown6_zps64e4d317.jpg.html)

Oh yes - and the outside doors and roof hatches open and close .....................


(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Wild%20West/4GWWTown7_zpsca758c2a.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Wild%20West/4GWWTown7_zpsca758c2a.jpg.html)



There was a 'special offer' for the show but you only got £108.00 worth of models for £100 and so I was able to resist.

The sad thing is I have collected many coffee stirrers for planks to build my own Wild West stuff and been working on a couple already ........... and now having seen these I am severely disheartened .........
  :engel:


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 23, 2013, 09:25:59 PM
The sad thing is I have collected many coffee stirrers for planks to build my own Wild West stuff and been working on a couple already ........... and now having seen these I am severely disheartened .........
  :engel:

Ha! And I thought I was the only one doing that. I have coffee stirrers, and the somewhat similar tea stirrers, in nearly every pocket of every coat I have. I get a vicarious catholic guilt thrill whenever I take about 5 instead of 1 when I am obviously purchasing only one cup of coffee.

The sad thing is, I'm collecting them with no real aim in mind - just another pile of stuff for my vast collection of potentially useful m modelling 'bits and bobs'.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 24, 2013, 01:55:05 AM
Seriously... 36 of them foot knights!! One box. Most likely cheaper than or equal in price to a GW greatsword box.


Well, based on the other boxes, they should be (here in the US) about $34 for 36 vs. $41 for 10 greatswords. So you can get four times as many Perry figures, and still spend less money. And they will look like they deserve the 4+ save...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on April 24, 2013, 06:37:49 AM
4Ground have made some Wild West Buildings - initially to go with Great Escape Games new skirmish game "Dead Man's Hand".
I had a look at the first 6 buildings available at Salute.

3 were £18.00 each, and the 3 larger ones were £36.00

Apparently the range will eventually be 20 strong. 

You should see what else they have planned ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 26, 2013, 11:01:51 AM
Very much looking forward to expanding my War of the Roses army with those new Perry plastics!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on April 26, 2013, 05:53:07 PM
Tilean landscape for cheap from Plastcraft!!
(http://www.plastcraftgames.com/655-905-large/edificio-veneciano-de-3-plantas.jpg)

Link: http://www.plastcraftgames.com/es/63-designed-for-carnevale
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 04, 2013, 09:06:24 PM
(http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/FPI_FPI6_1.jpg)

pirate goblins.

PIRATE
GOBLINS.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on May 04, 2013, 10:10:55 PM
pirate goblins.

PIRATE
GOBLINS.

They've been around for a while. I meant to get some for my orc army but so far haven't got around to it!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 05, 2013, 10:14:16 PM
Please don't go on about pirate goblins. I am one of quite a few who paid for and never received the (possibly) nice-looking pirate goblin figures on Indiegogo. The phrase, once one I enjoyed and would say out loud for pleasure, now leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If I ever receive them, I'll post them  painted here. Hey, maybe I should play a dangerous game (very dangerous) and declare  will not post again until they come? Like saying to the whole gaming community that if one tiny part lets me down, them I'm off!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 05, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
Youre Not waiting for black scorpion ones are you?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 06, 2013, 12:19:36 AM
No, he is waiting for these ones:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pirate-goblins-box-set/x/932406?c=home&website_name=pirate-goblins

As am I.  Apparently mine was sent to an incomplete address, and were reposted to me on April 16.  They were supposed to arrive last october...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on May 06, 2013, 01:58:36 AM
You guys aren't the only ones having problems http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pirate-goblins-box-set?c=comments
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 06, 2013, 06:35:47 AM
Was gonna say, bit cheeky of black scorpion to go to shows if he was messing people around!

Tenner for five pirate goblins... And I know they exist!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 06, 2013, 03:42:26 PM
Oh I know there have been lots of people waiting on that.

The Black Scorpion pirate greenskins are nice, except that most of them all have captains hats on... they need more with smaller hats and bandanas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 06, 2013, 04:43:53 PM
The Black Scorpion pirate greenskins are nice, except that most of them all have captains hats on... they need more with smaller hats and bandanas.

That would work as an interesting and fun bit of characterisation in WFRP - the goblin pirate crew who due to stubbornness have elected everyone captain. But yeah, apart from that sort of eccentric scenario, it doesn't really do to have that many captains.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on May 06, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
I don't think you need to think that much about it

Goblins think that's what pirates wear
They are pirate goblins
That's what pirate goblins wear

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 06, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
I don't think you need to think that much about it

Goblins think that's what pirates wear
They are pirate goblins
That's what pirate goblins wear


Agreed!
Seems totally goblin tastic to me that they'd all want captain hats!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 13, 2013, 02:14:42 PM
Whoever is producing those pirate goblins on indiegogo, looks like they made well past what they were looking for so what's their problem? :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 13, 2013, 04:41:55 PM
I suspect the problem is that they cannot copy the addresses we supplied correctly. I reckon a lot seem to have been sent to nowhere known. Either that, or they simply thought they'd save money by just sending out 70% of what had been paid for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 13, 2013, 06:24:15 PM
If they used a mail-merge program or something similar to print the labels (something which is very common) errors can easily creep in if the person feeding in the data does not correct for commas or other punctuation which denotes field breaks. At that point, one can end up with incomplete addresses.

And, of course, if something is widely popular it can overwhelm people - Reaper suffered the same sort of thing, I think, with their Bones kickstarter. Their problems weren't that people didn't get KS stuff - rather, the KS-designed models are taking a while to reach general release.

Which is fine, because I have enough to paint as it is!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 14, 2013, 12:47:41 AM
Its been almost 4 weeks since the pirate goblins were supposed to have been resent to me... sigh...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 14, 2013, 12:24:20 PM
Mine arrived though, so they do exist and get mailed to people.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on May 14, 2013, 04:24:34 PM
Its been almost 4 weeks since the pirate goblins were supposed to have been resent to me... sigh...

I am moving beyond wistful sighs and into the territory of distinct annoyance. He won't answer my e-mail, FB message or Indiegogo posts. Nor other peoples. I now suspect he has botched the addresses on several batches, and now can't be arsed to go to any more effort. Really shoddy behaviour. And the guy is planning his next batch of Indiegogo projects!!!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 14, 2013, 04:27:42 PM
If that is the case it is more criminal, and not shoddy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 14, 2013, 06:30:56 PM
These kinds of stories always shy me away from long distance business relationships.  I hear a story like Padre's and that guy won't be getting my business.  My recommendation for this long distance relationship business ... make a small purchase first so that way you'll only loose a small amount of cash if it doesn't arrive.

Business is always best done in person.  In fact, I prefer placing an order through a local retail store because it seems that since they have a relationship already with a wholesaler or direct sales person, it increases the likelihood I'll get what I'm wanting to buy.  Not that I can always get what I want via a local business, but it does seem less of a risk when I do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 14, 2013, 06:40:10 PM
I said it before, and I'll say it again:

In GW we must trust!

 :icon_lol:

BTW, I have been PMing Midaski about who make the best plastic Vikings, Saxons and Normans. His advice has been good if somewhat kinky, but I want to know what other people have say before I grace my wife with more boxes with plastic sprues that I do not want or need. Yes I intend to get SAGA at some point soonish and want stuff for it that won't give me lead poisoning.

He says Gripping Beast but... You know he is old and I am afraid of his basement.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 14, 2013, 06:50:10 PM

If you went back through this thread you would find pics of the sprues ..................

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 14, 2013, 06:50:53 PM

If you went back through this thread you would find pics of the sprues ..................

 :engel:

73 pages here I come!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 14, 2013, 07:49:58 PM
Chaos marauders are pretty much vikings, they even have round shields. ( or are these reserved for mounted marauders  :icon_confused:) But they are more costly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 14, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
Chaos marauders are pretty much vikings, they even have round shields. ( or are these reserved for mounted marauders  :icon_confused:) But they are more costly.

Um... What?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 14, 2013, 07:59:54 PM
Chaos marauders from GW look like vikings, on steroids, poorly clothed and wearing horned helmets, but you can use them as substitute. They are more expensive than Greaping beast minis thou.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 14, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Chaos marauders from GW look like vikings, on steroids, poorly clothed and wearing horned helmets, but you can use them as substitute. They are more expensive than Greaping beast minis thou.

For the love of God no... You are breaking my ancestors' heart.  :Ohmy:

I meant between the plastic vikings etc. ranges not fantasy wanna-be vikings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 14, 2013, 08:54:32 PM
Shadow, I looked through a bunch not that long ago on here...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 14, 2013, 08:57:27 PM
Shadow, I looked through a bunch not that long ago on here...

I was more looking to hear from people who have actually bought and painted up some.

Besides Midaski (whom I trust).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 14, 2013, 09:00:33 PM
Ah, what o meant was, I asked and people answered!

Although it was specifically for great weapons, iirc
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 14, 2013, 09:01:44 PM
Ah, what o meant was, I asked and people answered!

Um... Okay...  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 14, 2013, 09:12:32 PM
Page sixty four
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 14, 2013, 09:55:44 PM
Page sixty four

Then he wants the Conquest Games Normans ....................  :engel:

(http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/images/Infantry%20Sprue%20tn.jpg)


(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Norman%20Knights/NormanKnightsComSprue.jpg)

and the gallery

http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/information.php?info_id=1

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 15, 2013, 01:08:33 AM
Mine arrived though, so they do exist and get mailed to people.

It seems like many people have received theirs.  I hope mine are just delayed in customs or something though.  He said he was resending them on April 16... 4 weeks today.  If he ever responds to my emails, perhaps I will suggest paying for them to be sent with a tracking number.  I really want them gobbos  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on May 15, 2013, 07:35:50 AM
I said it before, and I'll say it again:

In GW we must trust!

 :icon_lol:

BTW, I have been PMing Midaski about who make the best plastic Vikings, Saxons and Normans. His advice has been good if somewhat kinky, but I want to know what other people have say before I grace my wife with more boxes with plastic sprues that I do not want or need. Yes I intend to get SAGA at some point soonish and want stuff for it that won't give me lead poisoning.

He says Gripping Beast but... You know he is old and I am afraid of his basement.

I can confirm that gripping beast vikings are some off the best quailty vikings I have seen.
I firmly recommend gripping beasts over wargames factory (I own both boxes)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 15, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
I'm not thrilled with Gripping Beast plastic Vikings.  There are issues with the box, such as 4 identical sprues, less left arms than right, only five spearsmen possible per sprue out of ten, no swords not in hands except for those in scabbards, command bodies are exactly the same as the one's on the regular sprues, and this all means alot of uniformity across the box, and thus less flexibility.  On top of that, they have a good deal of a cartoony flavor as well.  If thats your style, ok, go for it, but these are suppose to be Vikings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 15, 2013, 12:34:53 PM
They've got a big range of metal figures. You could always use those for command figures. (Im assuming they have a similar look & scale.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 15, 2013, 07:54:51 PM
Various opinions...

Conquest Games -> Looking Hawt!

Will probably get some boxes from various companies to see which I prefer.  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 15, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
Various opinions...

Conquest Games -> Looking Hawt!

Will probably get some boxes from various companies to see which I prefer.  :happy:

Which is what I did and you can mix and match.

The only slight problem is some have a ball and socket neck and some a flat connection, but any reasonable gamer can cope with that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 21, 2013, 01:26:03 AM
Just got a delivery of the Raging Heroes "Von Konigsmark" sisters and the warhorse-mounted version; exceptionally nice figures, wonderful sculpting, minimal flash. Really, really very impressed with them. As has been discussed before, a little "fanservicey" - but very nice nevertheless.

The knight will be forming the genesis of a unit of Knights of the Blazing Sun (or perhaps just a Blazing Sun commander on loan to my army, depending on whether or not I ever build any more Blazing Sun knights . . . ) and the three infantry heroes will be heading up the character division of my next army.

Definitely recommend Raging Heroes - lovely models, if a little spendy compared to some others.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 21, 2013, 01:46:40 AM
For those interested ... Warlord Games has a 20% off sale on boxed sets through 5/24.

I'm awfully tempted to order some of the Mounted Arquebusiers, but I got so many other projects I'm working on at the moment.  Besides, I sometimes see 20% off from retailers, convention vendors, and flea market tables, so maybe I'll wait alittle longer.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 21, 2013, 11:11:12 AM
Isn't 20% off the standard for TheWarStore?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 21, 2013, 11:28:23 AM
Isn't 20% off the standard for TheWarStore?
I don't buy from there, so I have no idea.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 21, 2013, 01:49:26 PM
It looks (based on this unscientific Napoleonic study) http://www.thewarstore.com/WarlordGamesNapoleonic.html that it is a little less than 20% off RRP.

TheWarStore is excellent - I have ordered from them before. They are a very good "go to" place for stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on May 24, 2013, 08:19:45 AM
new previews from AoW imperials

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/esp/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83&Itemid=122
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on May 24, 2013, 08:51:10 AM
wow, those look sweet, my wallet is allready crying.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 24, 2013, 10:27:58 AM
Exciting times. Hope they pull them off nice!
and in plastic? The plastic dwarfs are good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on May 24, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
The plastic dwarves are very good and if the imperials are close to that....damn them for taking all my money!

They have a very Estalian look upon them though if only we could field more guys with pistols.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on May 24, 2013, 02:55:43 PM
Not bad at all!  :closed-eyes:

I really hope they get their production system in order, they are pissing more people off than GW do with that one.

The Dwarfs looks ace.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 24, 2013, 04:49:53 PM
Ok, but GW is still in business. :icon_wink:

(GP ... what are you doing? This isn't the thread for that!)

Good point. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 24, 2013, 07:39:24 PM
Wow, those look really really nice!  Would make for a swell estalian force.  I can't wait until they release the first set in 5-8 years  :dry:

AoW makes some great stuff, but judging by how they fundraised $40k about 11 months ago to make like 10 units and a whole bunch of heros.  Even with that they have only released like 2 units and a couple heros since then...

As SL pointed out, they need to figure out how to work at a less glacial speed if these are ever going to see the light of day in any short order.  I would think they should have some obligation to finish the dwarft army before starting troops on another army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on May 28, 2013, 09:17:20 AM
I'm not thrilled with Gripping Beast plastic Vikings.  There are issues with the box, such as 4 identical sprues, less left arms than right, only five spearsmen possible per sprue out of ten, no swords not in hands except for those in scabbards, command bodies are exactly the same as the one's on the regular sprues, and this all means alot of uniformity across the box, and thus less flexibility.  On top of that, they have a good deal of a cartoony flavor as well.  If thats your style, ok, go for it, but these are suppose to be Vikings.
They make a fantastic shield wall. That's what I like about them, and why they are my preferred option. I do not like the Wargames Factory ones due to lack of authenticity, poor moulding (mould making?), and anatomy.

Swords are not a shield wall weapon, so not having them in hand is a historical thing rather than a lazy manufacturing thing.

But if you want open order vikings, you can do worse than going to:
Artizan Designs (http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=17&cat=117&page=1)
Crusader Miniatures (http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=4&sub=14&page=1)
Their metals come in cheeper than GW plastics, and the sculpts are lovely.
They do fantastic Saxons and Normans also.

The new GB plastic "generic" Dark Age warriors are pretty cool also, and are in less regimented poses to show they are shite troops.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2wxRrPMwFRA/UYfncCZmu8I/AAAAAAAAFVs/JgtSb6rjYKo/s640/plastics+group.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on May 28, 2013, 12:14:14 PM
http://www.avatars-of-war.com/esp/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113&Itemid=127

more cirlea scetches (scroll down)
it looks like they're bringing lion cavalry and some sort of hochlandlongriflerepeatingcrossbow

(http://www.avatars-of-war.com/esp/web/saga/img/cirlea/cirlea_caballero_de_arguntia_4.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 28, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
I saw those other sketches, but I refuse to get excited until I actually see them up for order.  :icon_neutral:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 03, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
I have this mad urge to try and add these to my Kislev forces - not sure what sort of unit they could be.

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/BR/Marbots_550.jpg)

Quote
During the Retreat from Moscow, Colonel Marbot seeing that his regiment, the 23rd Chasseurs a Cheval, was falling apart, decided to dismount them, use their remaining horses to pull two-man peasant sledges easily found in local villages. The 23rd formed up with the 24th Chasseurs a Cheval to create a sledge born brigade. At night these formed squares which were frequently used by Marshal Ney and General Maison for shelter. Each man was ordered to have two muskets to enable them to resist attacks with ‘the liveliest musketry’.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on June 03, 2013, 07:42:20 PM
They would be about the right size to be Demigryphs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 03, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
They would be about the right size to be Demigryphs.

Don't be stupid - they would be dwarfed by the 6 Tsar Boris bears currently in the role.   :engel:

I was thinking more of Pistoliers or Outriders
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 03, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Unit fillers...the universal answer to everything.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 03, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
Don't be stupid - they would be dwarfed by the 6 Tsar Boris bears currently in the role.   :engel:

Looks like the WFB gene is still strongly rooted...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on June 04, 2013, 02:22:13 AM
If those figures are a single piece with the sledge, they would be awesome for hobbits.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 04, 2013, 06:58:48 PM
Don't be stupid - they would be dwarfed by the 6 Tsar Boris bears currently in the role.   :engel:

Looks like the WFB gene is still strongly rooted...

You know me .................. "currently in the role" means bare metal in a box in a cupboard labelled potential Ulrican Demigryph solution.

 :engel:

... and I may not wish to play WFB anymore, but I still like to make plan armies - I have to have some reason for all the figures I have.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 04, 2013, 07:18:31 PM
Don't be stupid - they would be dwarfed by the 6 Tsar Boris bears currently in the role.   :engel:

Looks like the WFB gene is still strongly rooted...

You know me .................. "currently in the role" means bare metal in a box in a cupboard labelled potential Ulrican Demigryph solution.

 :engel:

... and I may not wish to play WFB anymore, but I still like to make plan armies - I have to have some reason for all the figures I have.
or you could just give them to your long lost cousin Quickbeam here  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 04, 2013, 07:37:31 PM

But you "was there" and not "here" .................  :closed-eyes: 

Anyway Philly would tell me off, as you are too young ................. to play with toy soldiers


 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on June 05, 2013, 01:47:38 AM
Reaper's "Bones" line has a lot of stuff in the pipe - this rather nice griffon http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/previews/latest/77157 is only $8!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 05, 2013, 10:40:28 AM
.. and I may not wish to play WFB anymore, but I still like to make plan armies - I have to have some reason for all the figures I have.

Yeah I know, Kings of War is superior in... every... single... way.

You do not get tired of repeating yourself obviously.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 05, 2013, 12:27:09 PM
.. and I may not wish to play WFB anymore, but I still like to make plan armies - I have to have some reason for all the figures I have.

Yeah I know, Kings of War is superior in... every... single... way.

You do not get tired of repeating yourself obviously.  :closed-eyes:

I think he meant he doesn't play much at all not just WFB, so he needs a reason to have those minis, if only to plan and create armies for the displaying purpose .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 05, 2013, 12:49:58 PM
He knows what I mean Darius  :engel:

Now Shadowlord is "Pure of Heart" he has to control his urges, but the odd bit of verbal sparring will be inevitable.

Actually he should know I have only passed a mere cursory glance over KoW, and dismissed it after seeing those Elves and Dwarfs  :ph34r:

He should also be annoyed that I was just about to ask if his address was the same as back in 2011 when he announced his ebay purchase in the TP ................... so I have unpacked the one I was about to send him  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 05, 2013, 01:03:22 PM
Now Shadowlord is "Pure of Heart" he has to control his urges, but the odd bit of verbal sparring will be inevitable.

I do not kick on people cowering on the floor in fear!

Quote
He should also be annoyed that I was just about to ask if his address was the same as back in 2011 when he announced his ebay purchase in the TP ................... so I have unpacked the one I was about to send him  :closed-eyes:

You are not worthy of being my imaginary father any longer after such treachery. I will still keep your altar though but not pray as much as before.

There seems to be some sort of Warmachine surge where I live and a lot of players are jumping on it. The odd thing though, it is the 40K players mostly after 6th ed. was released. Not that I care, it will have to be more than clowns and tin cans to lure me to that game (the idea and mechanics, bar the idiotic guess range, seems OKish though).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 05, 2013, 03:58:13 PM
Anyway Philly would tell me off, as you are too young ................. to play with toy soldiers
:cry: Low blow!  :laugh:

Actually he should know I have only passed a mere cursory glance over KoW, and dismissed it after seeing those Elves and Dwarfs  :ph34r:
To be honest the Game is very good. I really enjoy more than fantasy right now. It is simple and clean. The models put everyone off though. Most of them are terrible with the exception of the undead!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on June 05, 2013, 07:17:54 PM
How can Mantic models be bad? Why, JustNorth used to speak highly of them - and how could he ever say something inaccurate or wrong? :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 05, 2013, 07:20:02 PM
How can Mantic models be bad? Why, JustNorth used to speak highly of them - and how could he ever say something inaccurate or wrong? :)

 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 05, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
Anyway Philly would tell me off, as you are too young ................. to play with toy soldiers
:cry: Low blow!  :laugh:

Actually he should know I have only passed a mere cursory glance over KoW, and dismissed it after seeing those Elves and Dwarfs  :ph34r:
To be honest the Game is very good. I really enjoy more than fantasy right now. It is simple and clean. The models put everyone off though. Most of them are terrible with the exception of the undead!

But you can use the gw figs or any other, for that matter, can't you?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 06, 2013, 12:43:29 AM

But you can use the gw figs or any other, for that matter, can't you?
Of course! They even encourage it!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 06, 2013, 06:37:17 AM

But you can use the gw figs or any other, for that matter, can't you?
Of course! They even encourage it!  :laugh:

Well then Mantic beats GW in gamer friendly attitude. In fact I don't see any reason why would any gaming sytem enforce the use of just certain  miniatures. The gaming world should be free-spirited.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 06, 2013, 08:41:24 AM

But you can use the gw figs or any other, for that matter, can't you?
Of course! They even encourage it!  :laugh:

Well then Mantic beats GW in gamer friendly attitude. In fact I don't see any reason why would any gaming sytem enforce the use of just certain  miniatures. The gaming world should be free-spirited.

dolla dolla bills y'all
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on June 06, 2013, 08:48:25 AM
dolla dolla bills y'all
Picturing you... saying this... Just doesn't work haha
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 06, 2013, 09:20:53 AM
But it is the truth. I a stock-market company must make dollars. And sometimes being supergaming friendly is not the best way. GW have a very generous system for dealing with displeased customers getting faulty products. You tend to get a new one, noquestions asked. They want to remain the best model makers and they are. And GW do not say you cannot their minis with other game systems. Just that you cannot use other minis in their stores. So you cann play King of War and field GW minis.

Warmachine seems just like lots of robots and suxxor. I like 40K were a massed infantry assault is still part of the game. Gives the taste of WWI and Eastern front WWII that is right and proper for a game.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 06, 2013, 12:07:23 PM
That would be interesting  :icon_question:

Turning up to play in a GW store or at Warhammer World with armies of GW figures, BUT playing Kings of War. 

I wonder what would happen?

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 06, 2013, 12:57:06 PM
That would be interesting  :icon_question:

Turning up to play in a GW store or at Warhammer World with armies of GW figures, BUT playing Kings of War. 

I wonder what would happen?

 :engel:

lol, that would be a sight to behold!

but I doubt the local store manager here would even notice, the inbred fool only knows 40K; (hence my self-imposed banishment from that particular GW store)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 06, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
That's no knock-off.

No one can make an uglier model of the razorgor, not even Mantic (who are otherwise pros at it).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on June 06, 2013, 03:15:15 PM
I like the possibility to get cheaper minis than GW:s. But anyone claiming Mantic, besides the occasional lucky shot, makes better minis than GW needs to get glasses. It is not about taste either, those human of them deserve to be recasted into something less ugly, like their ghouls. The design of their for example is beyond retarded.

I might consider sneaking in a few mantic elves among my elves as somekind of suicide Shadow warrior units whose job is to live hard and die young. The only army I could consider making solely out of Mantic minis is an undead force. At least all of those minis are passable. The rest is so bad it is not even worth paying for unless they like dump the price with half. At the very least.

Even if Mantic would be my only economical option to collect a fantasy army I would simply choose not to collect an army at all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 08, 2013, 04:55:15 PM
There seems to be some sort of Warmachine surge where I live and a lot of players are jumping on it. The odd thing though, it is the 40K players mostly after 6th ed. was released. Not that I care, it will have to be more than clowns and tin cans to lure me to that game (the idea and mechanics, bar the idiotic guess range, seems OKish though).
Seems to be a similar trend around my way.  Not sure I get it yet, and it doesn't draw me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on June 08, 2013, 05:54:26 PM
Seems to be a similar trend around my way.  Not sure I get it yet, and it doesn't draw me.

I suspect a lot of the reason is the proliferation of fliers in 6th ed.  The game is significantly different now.

For the cost of updating your 40k army you can get most of a warmachine army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 09, 2013, 02:33:18 AM
Warmachine is huge in my area.  I tried one game and it was pretty fun.  I will try and make an army, but will use mostly alternate figures and convert the robots to match a bit.  I will make a mercenary army, and use lead adventure halberdiers and handgunners instead of the lame PP ones.  Some of the WM/H models are nice, but some are just absolutely horrible, bland, or stupid-looking.  They are basically as expensive or more expensive than GW, you just need far less for a game.  Most of the models are not worth the price.  That's always been my main opposition to playing warmachine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 09, 2013, 05:51:37 AM
One has to give credit to the company though, making models out of resin that they charge a buss load for and people buying them.

Having all the stats with the models ensures that you can release whatever you want and obviously charge players for it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 10, 2013, 02:29:00 AM
They do seem to have a good business model, and seem to have loyal support from the fans.  From the one game I played, and from reading the books, it can be a fun game, just quite different from warhammer.  Luckily for my wallet, I am still underwhelmed by the esthetics of many of their figures (though some are still really nice).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on June 10, 2013, 04:16:45 AM
I like the figures but detest the game. There's no real sense of narrative. It's all about the combos and shanking your opponent's caster on turn 3. Not fun to me at all. EG, my buddy was running a demo for me and used an earthquake spell to knock over my warjacks and then alpha-struck my warcaster with his charger's cannon. It was turn 2 or 3 and there was literally nothing I could have done to prevent it.

The company is pretty cool though. They provide prize support, had open playtesting while developing the current edition, chat with players on the forums, and don't have the utter contempt for their customers that GW does...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 10, 2013, 05:35:11 AM
Well it is a lot more about placement than other games I know...and yes I dislike the "kill the caster....win the day" things going on either....also you should know all spells and all buffs of all units everytime you play to avoid those situations and to know where you can΄t move....or you are dead meat.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 10, 2013, 11:17:36 AM
Don't find it entertaining to watch, so doubt I'd enjoy playing it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on June 10, 2013, 11:23:28 AM
I like the figures but detest the game. There's no real sense of narrative. It's all about the combos and shanking your opponent's caster on turn 3. Not fun to me at all. EG, my buddy was running a demo for me and used an earthquake spell to knock over my warjacks and then alpha-struck my warcaster with his charger's cannon. It was turn 2 or 3 and there was literally nothing I could have done to prevent it.

The most frustrating thing about WarMachine is the one-turn-kill combos that your opponents can set up.  But your warcaster has the same opportunity to kill his warcaster in one turn.  The game can become all about defending against these combos and setting up your own.

I prefer to play the defensive game and don't try to get caster kills unless my opponent makes a big mistake.  Do more damage to them they they do to me and soon the caster is left defenseless.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on June 10, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
I tend to play defensively/reactively myself. I'd rather win after a hard-fought slugfest than by a desperate assassination run or because my opponent left too big a gap between his units. It also doesn't help that I'm awful at guestimating ranges.

I love the imagery/models though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 11, 2013, 05:54:08 AM
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Pro-Gloria-Gendarms.jpg)

Pro Gloria Greens.....

I bought a bunch of the Halberdiers and am very...very happy with them as soon as I get my basecoat and new tools I will get to work to make a unit of Halberdiers for the next years Eurobash.



Also if I would play 40k....and would play orks I would definately get this guy in my boss mob

(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/427fa80dc1419f53fbbdf5dae249a9cf.jpg)

maxmini badass biker
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 11, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Pro-Gloria-Gendarms.jpg)

Pro Gloria Greens.....

I bought a bunch of the Halberdiers and am very...very happy with them as soon as I get my basecoat and new tools I will get to work to make a unit of Halberdiers for the next years Eurobash.



Holy Mother  :ph34r:

How does pro gloria scale to GW?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 11, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
Tiny bit smaller i will upload comparison pics later the day.

Teaser I found in the www

left is pro gloria guy middle is a miniature done by white knight (guy on this forum awesomesauce person) and right is an old GW handgunner

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HKfTQlshdfU/T4F252GG8lI/AAAAAAAAAsk/9cDjvLlIAj8/s1600/lam3.jpg)

(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u639/Goethesfaust/Blacksteel%20legion/DSCF2047_zpsa7641c37.jpg)

(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u639/Goethesfaust/Blacksteel%20legion/DSCF2048_zpsa758f350.jpg)

(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u639/Goethesfaust/Blacksteel%20legion/DSCF2052_zpsc9323712.jpg)



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 12, 2013, 12:19:29 PM
left is pro gloria guy middle is a miniature done by white knight (guy on this forum awesomesauce person) and right is an old GW handgunner

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HKfTQlshdfU/T4F252GG8lI/AAAAAAAAAsk/9cDjvLlIAj8/s1600/lam3.jpg)

Just a small correction, the guy in the middle is a Lead Adventure Miniature, not one of mine. :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 13, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I like the figures but detest the game. There's no real sense of narrative. It's all about the combos and shanking your opponent's caster on turn 3. Not fun to me at all. EG, my buddy was running a demo for me and used an earthquake spell to knock over my warjacks and then alpha-struck my warcaster with his charger's cannon. It was turn 2 or 3 and there was literally nothing I could have done to prevent it.

The most frustrating thing about WarMachine is the one-turn-kill combos that your opponents can set up.  But your warcaster has the same opportunity to kill his warcaster in one turn.  The game can become all about defending against these combos and setting up your own.

I prefer to play the defensive game and don't try to get caster kills unless my opponent makes a big mistake.  Do more damage to them they they do to me and soon the caster is left defenseless.


I started the game because I loved the idea of giant robot things tossing each other around and ripping off limbs. Then I started playing and learned that it was more like a card game -- killer combos, timing, and list-building were most of the game. At the time (don't know if it's changed, I haven't bought any of the 2nd edition stuff nor played in years) it had also morphed into a game where most of the big meanies were irrelevant and people were playing infantry heavy armies anyway. Totally lost interest, sold most of it. All I have left is my Cryx starter force that I may get rid of someday too, not even sure why I still have it.

I think their figures are hit & miss. Some really great stuff, others... not to my taste. (So, kind of like GW lately.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 13, 2013, 06:26:15 AM
I think the PP pirate range from the mercenaries fraction are fantastic. I plan to get some for my future free company of seadogs.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IJ_lWUd6lSo/UJHVtmkjC3I/AAAAAAAAAzE/bAnpaUGYMWs/s1600/PGs.png)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 13, 2013, 08:02:25 AM
Amazing unit filler for Chaos Marauders

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MM_DarkLands-Carrowek.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 13, 2013, 09:07:38 AM
Isn’t Mierce run by that dodgy dude who ripped off a load of people (took money, did not send product) then declared the previous company bankrupt, then set up a new company but did not fulfil any previous orders? Basically stealing money and using it to set up new company?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 13, 2013, 09:08:30 AM
So you're promoting the guy who ran Maelstrom .................... into the ground.   :closed-eyes:

Finlay beat me to it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 13, 2013, 09:11:58 AM
Buying from Mierce is immoral.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 13, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
Didn΄t know that....so thanks for the heads up and....boooooooo. Him.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 13, 2013, 09:55:04 AM
speaking of which, total war gamer Still never sent me my He book and magic cards so I'd probably avoid ordering from them too!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 13, 2013, 09:56:05 AM
Have you contacted them?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 13, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Several times. Now I will be asking for a refund. 30% discount is nice, but not if I don't get my stuff
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 13, 2013, 10:04:09 AM
Definitely get a refund. It's been weeks, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 13, 2013, 10:10:31 AM
How do they react? Do they react at all?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 13, 2013, 10:11:34 AM
yes! I ordered it on April 28th, last email from them 19th of may. Where they said "we're havnig supply issues but getting a big delivery this week, which wil fulfill outstanding orders"

yet they havent sent mine, and still advertise 30% off high elves on their website.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 13, 2013, 10:16:12 AM
Just found this, from a total war gamer guy, on anothef forum with someone complaining.

"Labrat mentions Maelstrom Games going out of business - it is this company going under that has caused suppliers in the industry to cap credit - mentioned by the original poster.

Total Wargamer has been affected by this (as all retailers in the industry have been) - I hope this clarifies the situation."#

which seems.... bad.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 13, 2013, 10:51:04 AM
So Maelstrom ruined things for everyone? Unfortunate.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on June 13, 2013, 05:08:58 PM
Buying from Mierce is immoral.

But they have the best Beastmen characters and minotaurs I've ever seen.  :icon_cry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 13, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
I think the PP pirate range from the mercenaries fraction are fantastic. I plan to get some for my future free company of seadogs.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IJ_lWUd6lSo/UJHVtmkjC3I/AAAAAAAAAzE/bAnpaUGYMWs/s1600/PGs.png)
I like a good number of the mercenary range. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 13, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
The pirates are nice, but I think a bit overpriced.  I like the pirate warjacks the best though!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 13, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
Yep, the price continues to keep me from picking some up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 13, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
Especially when the market is awash with nice pirate miniatures, with more pose variety, at cheaper prices.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 14, 2013, 03:44:00 AM
Yep, the price continues to keep me from picking some up.

Me too, but this:
Price: $44.99*
Model Materials: White Metal
Model Count: 10

means, that you pay $4.5 for a metal mini of  A sculpt quality. I believe this is the minimum on the market, cheaper would mean lower quality or cheaper material.

One Pirate of Sartosa from GW is  €11.50.

I wouldn't mind if they were cheaper.


Especially when the market is awash with nice pirate miniatures, with more pose variety, at cheaper prices.

Yes, I have seen many of them, but if you have any links at hand would you mind psoting them?

The problem here is the trust, after the downfall of Maelstorm, how can I trust a small unknown internet site to send them my money purely on the base of trust. At least with Privateer press I'm preaty safe.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 14, 2013, 03:50:16 AM
pirates
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 14, 2013, 08:36:21 AM
pirates
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/

Yes those are nice, I have seen them before, but how reliable is this company? Has anyone ordered from them - lately?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 14, 2013, 09:43:31 AM
pirates
http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/
Yes those are nice, I have seen them before, but how reliable is this company? Has anyone ordered from them - lately?

Never heard there were any problems. Aren't you thinking of Black Tree Designs perhaps?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 14, 2013, 09:55:43 AM
Aren't you thinking of Black Tree Designs perhaps?

They have been much better of late.
Two years ago they were very slow - delivered in the end, but could take several weeks. Last year, and so far this I have placed half a dozen orders that all came through within two weeks.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on June 15, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
I also have used Black Tree recently and they were fine

I've also for stuff from Black Scorpion and they were good and reliable too
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 19, 2013, 01:06:17 AM

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/ccp001.jpg)

 :eusa_clap:

Crusader pirates.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 19, 2013, 06:57:48 AM
Nice minis. I also like the hoplites.

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/img460.jpg)

Does anyone know how big are these dudes? Suitable for Empire? I was thinking merecenaries.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: sirolf on June 19, 2013, 09:42:56 AM
Hey guys, Manorhouse Workshop has started their kickstarter on Indiegogo for a new wonderful line of really high quality modular medieval buildings!! The prices are lower than their usual and the quality is at the top! Check it out!!

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/manorhouse-workshop-25-38mm-modular-3d-wargaming-elements

(http://www.alien.it/public/mhw-indie/project-sample.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 19, 2013, 11:16:12 AM
Looks pretty cool, but I am a bit hesitant until I see more than just concept drawings - looks like they do good work though.

In other news, sculpts for the upcoming lead adventure knights:

(http://s0.uploads.ru/NnX0W.jpg)

(http://s0.uploads.ru/fQDrq.jpg)

(http://s0.uploads.ru/HJmX9.jpg)

(http://s0.uploads.ru/qTN6J.jpg)

Looking forward to these!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 19, 2013, 11:22:03 AM
Liking the Crusader and Lead Adventure figures.

But don't like pledging.  Prefer it when companies do business the old fashioned way.  I'll wait.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 19, 2013, 11:49:44 AM
those knights look promising but i don't like that last helmet
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 19, 2013, 06:23:58 PM
Reminds me of Berserk.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on June 19, 2013, 07:17:12 PM
I reckon that helmet is in the style (not identical, but akin to) the royal armouries horned helmet: http://www.royalarmouries.org/visit-us/leeds/leeds-galleries/tournament-gallery/maximilian-i/the-horned-helmet-1-1 Same sort of weird human-like features.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Rowly on June 20, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
Those kinds of helmets were pretty popular way back when...
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pedan21e2bcjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 20, 2013, 02:58:03 PM
That still doesn't make them not-ugly.  :wink:

The barding and everything else look great on those figures, though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on June 20, 2013, 05:37:14 PM
Standard bearer in the old KoTBS has the same type of helmet :wink:

Back OT, the horse look  a tad bit small, looks like a pony.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 20, 2013, 06:15:04 PM

I have to admit that helmet is kinda scary.
just look at it:

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pedan21e2bcjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on June 20, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
 ::heretic:: ::heretic:: those knights are the business!

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on June 20, 2013, 06:51:53 PM
can't sleep, knights will eat me. can't sleep, knights will eat me
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 20, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
can't sleep, knights will eat me. can't sleep, knights will eat me


Note to self: buy those knights, paint them like clowns...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on June 21, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
Back OT, the horse look  a tad bit small, looks like a pony.

The horse is a good size - too many companies make over sized horses

The girth is my one point of contention with the horses.

But the knights look too top heavy and they are too straight in the leg.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on June 28, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
New mantic trolls!!!
18 euros for 3.

I think they look very LOTR!
And at that price, me thinks my goblin army might need to units of 6.

(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/2879.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Advance-Orders/Advance-Orders-Kings-of-War/Product/Trolls-3-Figures.html


EDIT: Did you notice how I spelled two???
Good grief.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on June 28, 2013, 06:23:48 PM

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/ccp001.jpg)

 :eusa_clap:

Crusader pirates.
Seaman Staines? You gotta be fucking kidding me.
What's next?

Roger the cabin boy?
Master Bates?

hehehe

Captain Pugwash all the way!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on June 28, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
I just purchased a 100 model army for £30 for use in the Great Northern War, by Zvezda. I am constantly amazed at the low cost of plastic figures by companies such as them, shown on Plastic Soldier Review. I remember getting an entire WotR era army for £20. And the thing is, whilst a lot of them look like they cost nothing, so much more look so good.

Really the only reason I wanted to post this was to state I'm going to be killing a lot of Swedes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 28, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/2879.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)

Those legs are massive...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on June 28, 2013, 07:14:18 PM
Have you seen the new ogres Shadow? They seem to have knock knees.

(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/2925.1.600.600.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on June 28, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/2879.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)


Those legs are massive...


How do you know that's their legs yer talkin' aboot?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 28, 2013, 07:47:24 PM
They have a small piece of loin cloth.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on June 28, 2013, 08:18:11 PM
They have a small piece of loin cloth.
That's what people say about my shorts as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on June 28, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
(http://www.manticgames.com/SiteData/Root/Image/kickstarter/Damon.jpg)

While i really only like Mantic's undead stuff, these guys look OK as alternate mounts for demis. Just toss the rider and add some leftover knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 29, 2013, 01:44:40 AM
The proportions on the trolls look a bit like Vor Growlers.

(http://www.warseer.com/gallery/data/503/Growler_Group.jpg)

(Which I suppose are sort of like half-sculpted Warmahordes Trolls as well.)

If you're looking for cheap trolls, but aren't too worried about the sculpting being a bit rough around the edges, the Old Glory ice trolls aren't a bad buy, either. http://plasticgeneral.blogspot.com/2011/04/trolls.html


I like the lion-ish thing quite a bit, except... the saber-teeth look ridiculous, and the first thing I would do is replace the 40k thunder hammer and power shield.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thundercake on June 29, 2013, 04:27:30 AM
yea, cut off the teeth and the rider and you are good to go.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 29, 2013, 10:04:32 AM
God those trolls and ogres are awful - so cartoony.

On a side note did you see one of this year's hot toys for Christmas is an old toy renamed ................ because trolls is a word with bad associations.  :engel:

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01753/Trol_M_1753751a.jpg)


commandant you're a ZELF  doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it?  :icon_question:

 :biggriin:


One of the articles from the UK press

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4987470/Trolls-renamed-as-Zelfs.html

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: von Kalden on June 29, 2013, 11:25:44 AM
Those trolls reminded me of this:

(http://www.jerseygirltalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/leg-day-1.jpg)

Considering their ghouls and zombies are rather nice miniatures one has to wonder about Mantic's design decicsions...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on June 29, 2013, 12:07:28 PM
The trolls look quite decent, and streets ahead of the shitty human models they've released. Thin legs though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on June 29, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
Alas, my quest for alternate Chaos Trolls continues.

Mantic's stuff has been pretty awful lately.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: MrDWhitey on June 29, 2013, 04:35:20 PM
Their goblins have been consistently decent in my view, and the mummies coming out seem nice. Otherwise yeah, lately not good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 29, 2013, 09:43:24 PM
I can΄t understand how those Mantic guys are basically professionals at what they do....and they still seem to have no grasp about proportions and creative ideas for models.

Take a look at the Kingdom Death Kickstarter...there are so many Models I would like to have....fantastic as unit fillers for Demon and Warriors of Chaos Armies.

(http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster)

The Dung Beetle Knights as a  unit filler for Nurgle Chaos Warriors

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/309/593/8f6b73fab189c4897c2ed270be5e3fd8_large.jpg?1355829430)

Or this thing as unit filler for Horrors

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/277/907/6152b26a373b2e7b1150ac4b3012d30c_large.jpg?1353823920)

Amazing.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on June 29, 2013, 10:06:03 PM
"The most aerial model ever created"

The most meaningless attribute ever made to look like a selling point
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 29, 2013, 10:08:28 PM
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Haters+gonna+hate_5e46a7_3803056.jpg)

 :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 29, 2013, 10:24:05 PM
Resin is a big no no for me but at least it does not look like feeces.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on June 29, 2013, 10:25:03 PM
All those minis should be plastic after the Kickstarter.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on June 29, 2013, 10:29:04 PM
All those minis should be plastic after the Kickstarter.

Plastic moulds cost a fortune and most companies label resin as plastic.

So do not get your hopes up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on June 29, 2013, 10:33:24 PM
"The most aerial model ever created"

The most meaningless attribute ever made to look like a selling point


Funny though!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on July 08, 2013, 05:59:04 AM
Empire dwarves?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironmaskminiatures/iron-mask-miniatures-dwarf-musketeers

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/704/745/7b3b72ea2abc7619fe837740b9fa9fd1_large.jpg?1372359931)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 08, 2013, 07:30:56 AM
Oops, just posted another thread about these, before seeing your post.  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 08, 2013, 05:05:50 PM
Resin is a big no no for me but at least it does not look like feeces.

I think GW soured a lot of people on resin with Finecast, but I think it's a great material to work with. Mierce Miniatures and Black Scorpion have done some amazing figures with it....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Khalbrae on July 10, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
Good news everyone!

Warlord Games is giving free shipping on all items for the month of July!

Great way to stock up on Perry Miniatures! (http://www.warlordgames.com/us-store/hail-caesar/war-of-the-roses-1455-1486/dark-ages-mercenaries-european-infantry-1450-1500.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on July 12, 2013, 06:26:16 PM
Checkout these:
http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_lang=4 :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 12, 2013, 07:01:57 PM
Ha ha ha... Nice rip off minis!


Some of them look quite cool.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on July 12, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
Checkout these:
http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_lang=4 :Ohmy:

Nice - all metal! Now I can easily forget about FW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 13, 2013, 01:21:57 PM
Very nice ripoffs!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 13, 2013, 06:43:39 PM
I think they're ok. But theyre charging premium prices, and most of the figures - while good - don't merit that kind of price for me. For example, the Breugelburg figures are around half that price.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on July 14, 2013, 09:37:35 PM
Yep, That black chapel stuff is a joke.   Twice the price and half the quality of the LAF/Bruegelberg stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 14, 2013, 10:26:40 PM
Being biased is not the same as being correct.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 14, 2013, 10:59:10 PM
I like the style, but not so much the final product nor the price. (The greens look better than the final product ..) Whoever runs this company definitely won't get rich this way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 15, 2013, 02:18:16 AM
Yep, That black chapel stuff is a joke.   Twice the price and half the quality of the LAF/Bruegelberg stuff.

I don't know if I'd go that far. Some of it looks pretty good. I like the unpainted version of the veteran (no goggles, pointing) and the engineer with his foot up on the chest.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 15, 2013, 08:27:12 AM
I got a couple and they are much more crisp than you might think from the pictures. Good quality. Also, each figure comes with alternate arm and head options in the blister, which should give you some nice options for converting more unique figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on July 15, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
I find it fascinating how snobby we're all getting . :closed-eyes:

I suppose if GW is all you know that's the problem, sometimes the plainest mediocre sculpted figure can look great and full of character if the muse is with you when you paint ,that being said if the muse is not with you  even the best sculpted figure can look a state if daubed with paint.  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 15, 2013, 03:15:07 PM
The poses are dreadful. Especially that swordsman guy.

If I'm going to pay a premium for metal characters, I at least want some sense of movement. Swinging a zweihander in a gleaming arc, urging the troops forward, shouting a challenge, that sort of thing. Not just standing around with shouldered weapons.

Characterful faces, though. I'll give them that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on July 15, 2013, 05:13:12 PM
The trolls look quite decent, and streets ahead of the shitty human models they've released. Thin legs though.
Right... drum roll...

How many bloody trolls have you come across, then?

Really. It took me 2 weeks to think that one up. And it was funnier when I was stoned.


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 15, 2013, 05:33:03 PM
And it was funnier when I was stoned.

That's not fair - why weren't we invited if people were going to throw rocks at you  ....................................

 :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 15, 2013, 05:53:30 PM
The poses are dreadful. Especially that swordsman guy.

If I'm going to pay a premium for metal characters, I at least want some sense of movement. Swinging a zweihander in a gleaming arc, urging the troops forward, shouting a challenge, that sort of thing. Not just standing around with shouldered weapons.

Interesting, because ironically I tend to look for static poses. Because I use figures in photos for stories (bat reps, campaign fluff), I tend to favour ones who look like they're walking, talking, looking out over a battlement, resting etc. Otherwise every pic I did would have to be of a fight.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on July 15, 2013, 09:33:35 PM
Also, each figure comes with alternate arm and head options in the blister

That's pretty cool. I didn't notice it when I saw their original news posts, but now that I look at the site more, I see the listings of the other hand/head options. I will give them fair dues for that! I like variety :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on July 16, 2013, 08:54:10 AM
I got a couple and they are much more crisp than you might think from the pictures. Good quality. Also, each figure comes with alternate arm and head options in the blister, which should give you some nice options for converting more unique figures.

How much have you paid for the shipment? That for me is the biggest selling factor.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 16, 2013, 09:33:19 AM
I'm afraid I don't remember that part. :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 16, 2013, 10:26:51 PM
The Assault Group is releasing their new Tudor range now:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Tudor-Militias-release-327
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/pages/page.php?Tudor-Light-Horse-released-325

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 17, 2013, 07:31:51 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mountainshield on July 26, 2013, 08:31:16 AM
Though there probably is some good non GW products on the market, and for one I really want to buy crusader miniatures american civil war riflemen to use instead of empire gunmen but I'm very skeptical after buying warlord miniatures. One thing is that the models are much smaller than GW so if you are planning on using it in GW games it will look out of place and more like human sized goblins when compared to normal humans, of course this is not warlord fault but my own for not checking out the sizes prior to purchase. The thing that got me dissapointed was the utter crap and lack of quality in the miniatures, especially the tin models but the plastic were also horrible. GW models are far from perfect but when compared to warlord games models they are pretty close.

I will most likely buy some civil war and the beloved perry's pikemen though since they do look cool, but I don't agree with the whole "buy non gw products or you are wasting money" argument. Most of the time you do get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 26, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
"buy non gw products or you are wasting money"

Sounds like something from Mantic fans.

I wonder who is wasting money.  :icon_rolleyes:

I do love the new "rangers" from AoW.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=175094&d=1374769589
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 26, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
Nice rangers

Some figure ranges and styles simply don't exist elsewhere than GW

For us Empire players though I do agree that you're throwing good money away buying just from GW
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 26, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
Sounds like something from Mantic fans.


Just had the Mantic email about the launch of their Basilean humans.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Advance-Orders/Advance-Order-Basilea.html

Not really impressed at first glance - definitely ones I would want to see close up.
I see the Men-At-Arms are plastic, but most of the rest seems to be 'plastic resin'.

I wonder if they are multi-part kits or  one-piece bodies?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 27, 2013, 11:00:46 AM

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Advance-Orders/Advance-Order-Basilea.html

Not really impressed at first glance

Neither are most of us. I think there was quite a big thread in th Elector's Forum when the first pictures showed up a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 27, 2013, 11:07:45 AM
Those are really really bad. Like Bantam 2 $ for a whole sack plastic soldiers
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 27, 2013, 11:31:29 AM
If the plastic Men-at-Arms are a multi-part kit there might be some potential.
They are offering a double box set for £25 for I think 40 minis and it looks like there are different arm options on the same bodies.

So maybe the arms are separate at least.

The paint job on the cougars is just great isn't it.  :engel:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 27, 2013, 01:13:57 PM
If you want non-GW potential, AoW is your best call.

There is no potential with Mantic.

They did decent ghouls and zombies once and... Well that's it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on July 27, 2013, 10:03:12 PM
I have my eye on the Mantic Orc Boar Chariot for a beastman chariot. But otherwise, yeah, I agree.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 31, 2013, 02:29:01 PM
Stumbled across this company: Claymore Castings. The minis are not so much suitable for the empire, but for a technologically advanced bretonnian army they would be fantastic.:

https://www.facebook.com/ClaymoreCastings
http://claymorecastings.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=20
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on July 31, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
Too historical for my taste but there is no denying good sculpts (the ones I looked at).

Metal though and very similar to the older M@A from GW.

The paint job on finished minis was good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 31, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
I bought a few in 2012 when they were launched, at Salute and they are very nice.

Very period and possibly a tad expensive
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 31, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
And something else: By no means is this anything "new", but I have only recently discovered where to buy the following minis, after having seen them now and then on the web (ebay). I'm talking about former Grenadier models, who are these days produced by 2 different companies it seems. The designs are pretty old (mid 80's, early 90's) - most minis are not that great, but there are some gems in there with a nice oldschool feel to them. I'm talking about the Human Fantasy (warrior) range:

Mirliton offers a wider range, has decent preview pictures on their site, but is more expensive.
http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans

The halfling range seems to be pretty decent as well, if you're in to that. Even the Barbarien range is quite nice.

The second company to possess a license and to produce these minis is em4, which can be bought here (cheaper than mirliton, but their preview pics are horrendous):
http://www.forlornhopegames.co.uk/product.php?PK_UniqueID=156



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 01, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
I use the Mirliton figures alongside my Perry plastics. They are a good fit.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zdz1iQO4rGE/USr5IpxH9VI/AAAAAAAAB6c/o3p3mSin9cY/s1600/IMG_6970.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UOzTeTfa_QY/USr3xdffJeI/AAAAAAAAB6E/H-LMSCGskmg/s1600/IMG_6964.JPG)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e6PZo64GQKA/US74p7x5pDI/AAAAAAAAB8k/YedCeQZYMJE/s1600/IMG_6971.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 01, 2013, 02:03:36 AM
Looking good! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 01, 2013, 02:29:17 AM
I agree, they're nice figures. They looked good mixed with Front Rank as well. And the barbarians go great with Foundry Ancient Germans (same sculptor.) At one point I had some of the Wood Elves, and although they didn't exactly match the old GW WE from the same period they had a similar stylized feel. In fact, Jes Goodwin (GW) and Mark Copplestone (Mirliton-via-Grenadier, Foundry, etc.) are two of my favorite sculptors from the old 80's miniatures era.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 01, 2013, 05:29:36 AM
Pro Gloria Miniatures rumours....there might be a kickstarter for a Landsknecht plastic box coming up.....now that would be rather sweetish

Here is a rumoured sketch of the cover box

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Pro-Gloria-Cover.png)


Also rather nice a painting tutorial on their site.

http://progloria.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/painting-tutorial-for-core-landsknechts/ (http://progloria.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/painting-tutorial-for-core-landsknechts/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 01, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
If those landsies will be plastic and the right size... Will. Be. Getting. Tons.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 01, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
If those landsies will be plastic and the right size... Will. Be. Getting. Tons.

OK call the Inquisition - who's hacked fanboi's account .................................  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on August 01, 2013, 08:48:26 AM
Anyone does his/her own models? I am thinking of theme army of models done by people around the world, or painted by people around the world. (of course paying for the work)

Anyone has something similar?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 01, 2013, 09:41:59 AM
Plastic Pro Gloria would be perfection.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 01, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
Anyone does his/her own models? I am thinking of theme army of models done by people around the world, or painted by people around the world. (of course paying for the work)

Anyone has something similar?

Many years ago the members of TMP did something similar for Bill the editor.

http://theminiaturespage.com/workbench/200194/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 01, 2013, 02:07:36 PM
Pro Gloria Miniatures rumours....there might be a kickstarter for a Landsknecht plastic box coming up.....now that would be rather sweetish

:Ohmy:

About time someone did this, and from what I've seen, Pro Gloria would be ideal.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 01, 2013, 08:15:36 PM
OK call the Inquisition - who's hacked fanboi's account .................................  :engel:

No one I swear and it is all Mantic for me henceforth...  :dry:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 01, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Where did you hear of this rumour?

Pro Gloria Miniatures rumours....there might be a kickstarter for a Landsknecht plastic box coming up.....now that would be rather sweetish

Here is a rumoured sketch of the cover box

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Pro-Gloria-Cover.png)


Also rather nice a painting tutorial on their site.

http://progloria.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/painting-tutorial-for-core-landsknechts/ (http://progloria.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/painting-tutorial-for-core-landsknechts/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 02, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Where did you hear of this rumour?



http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=86836
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 02, 2013, 01:21:46 AM
Thanks for the link, and thanks to google translate for helping me understand german!

Alas, it is but a rumour so far.  They could also be making a ruleset for their figures?  Plastics would be ace, though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 02, 2013, 07:52:55 AM
So someone found a piece of art for Pro Gloria that has the word "cover" on it and extrapolated that into possibly meaning a plastic box set through crowdfunding. Does seem like a big leap. Could just as well be a boxed set of the metals (which are gorgeous anyway and you should all get them).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on August 02, 2013, 11:46:27 AM
Goodn't agree more WK.
Now that the chiropractor is working on my bad back ( so that I can paint) I'm painting up the two hander from the stationary pike command ,one of the best landsknecht figures ever.( those that know me know I have just one or two  :biggriin:)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 03, 2013, 12:55:40 AM
Got them...hence I am so excited.

Hmmm how about this guy as my second witch hunter
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/574d9fee2564fcec2fbd367cae78d3cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 03, 2013, 01:11:41 AM
Mick Jagger's got a new gig?


Edit: or is that Michael Jackson?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 03, 2013, 02:55:12 PM
It's Alfref from polanski's "the fearless vampire killers"
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 05, 2013, 09:38:25 AM
I have finished most of my GW terrain, and have been looking for normal buildings etc. too boost my collection. They need to be similar to the GW pieces like the Skullvane Manse, Fortified Manor and so on. I like the Tabletop World ones but there is something about those that just do not click right with me (some pieces do but not the majority) and the Pardulon seems too basic for my taste (and small). So I bought stuff from Stronghold Terrain instead (I saw some pictures from a gaming site that had these amongst GW minis and they looked ace) but I have yet to receive the order.

My question - are there other similar terrain suppliers out there that has the same style?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Duskfire on August 05, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
Anyone have any experience with Lead Adventures? Really looking at getting their Cannon Death Bell.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on August 05, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
I have. They are great. Wonderful models (pricey though), quick and reliable delivery. Perfect scale. Might look a tad bit comicy compared to standard GW models, some might think.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 05, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Ditto, excellent service and product.  Some of the best metal fantasy humans on the market, IMO.  I am painting up some of their halberdiers right now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on August 06, 2013, 04:11:19 PM
Best models in the marketplace are Lead Adventure IMO
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 06, 2013, 10:30:45 PM
Size comparison Pro Gloria and Empire Flagellant

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fenvergleich-mit-GW.jpg)

Also comparison between pro gloria left and artizan
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PG-Artizan-besser.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on August 07, 2013, 11:54:54 AM
It is a change you are not into dressing in landsknecht style, Shadowlord. Then at least I could supply you with a proper dress worthy of an Empire general. Like tellerbarette, large codpiece etc.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 07, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
large codpiece etc.

It will be like a marble in a bucket.  :Ohmy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Blue in vt on August 09, 2013, 04:43:58 PM
Those Pro-Gloria pikemen are certainly on my long-term buy list....just fantastic stuff!  I for one would not be as excited about plastic...I just don't like the stuff....plus I have so much metal puff and slash to deal with already the idea of adding a couple of boxes of plastic makes me want to cry...so I'll stick to the metal ones for now.

I also agree the LAM minis are some of the best going right now....the detail that ratnik achieves in his sculpting is truly amazing.

I look forward to seeing yours soon Timbor!  :::cheers:::

Cheers,

Blue
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 09, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
YYEEAHHHHHHH!  :biggriin:

Quote from: Pro gloria miniatures on FB says:
Here is another preview of our cover art - it's an A3 picture but scanned two times with an A4 scanner so please forgive me the scanner line in the middle of the picture. Peter Dennis is almost finished with the picture and yes, for everyone who guessed it will be the cover of our plastic Landsknecht box - you are right!

I can't give many details of the box but just some now:

- sculpting work will be done by the talented sculptor Paul Hicks
- tooling company will be Renedra Ltd in the UK
- no release date yet, but we aim to release them around Christmas
- the box will be a kickstarter with many kickstarter-only models, and many other special miniatures
- out of the box you can build 24 Landsknechte, either useable as German, Swiss, Italian or French.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554938_427155780735147_280244479_n.png)

Also, Blue, I will try and get some pictures of something you will like this weekend.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 09, 2013, 09:12:52 PM
Please let them have the same size as GW's Goldswords.

I want moar plastics and do not have the stamina to convert more state troopers.

Good find!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 09, 2013, 09:15:39 PM
Droooooooool.......I need a credit card....seriously.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 10, 2013, 01:48:59 AM

Quote from: Pro gloria miniatures on FB says:
- sculpting work will be done by the talented sculptor Paul Hicks

Good news!


Quote from: Pro gloria miniatures on FB says:
- tooling company will be Renedra Ltd in the UK

Good news!


Quote from: Pro gloria miniatures on FB says:
- the box will be a kickstarter with many kickstarter-only models, and many other special miniatures

Meh. I guess if that's what it takes. I'm not a big kickstarter fan, but I might make an exception for this.



The fact that the plastic set is actually happening is, of course, good news.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 10, 2013, 11:42:50 AM
The art work looks promising.  Hicks being the sculpture increases the anticipation.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on August 10, 2013, 02:44:40 PM
Hopefully they will be the same size and style as GW greatswords, .........and preferably cheaper.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 10, 2013, 03:12:49 PM
Hopefully they will be the same size and style as GW greatswords, .........and preferably cheaper.

Without Kickstarter I am certain they wouldn't have made it.

The biggest reason for me getting these is not of price, it is that they are plastic puffy n' sleeve, and I do not have to scour ebay for stuff for my greatsword converted state troopers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 10, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
I would imagine them to be the same scale as their metal troopers.  Do the metal pro gloria miniatures match up with the GW greatswords?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on August 10, 2013, 08:19:30 PM
Not to good I΄m afraid. GW:s are a slightly higher and much bulkier.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on August 11, 2013, 01:16:46 AM
Well, you can still hope cause they look promising!

Shame I have decided to back away from collecting more Empire. Too expensive and too much bulk. Plus I look too sexy in tiara and white dres to ever go back to that uncomfortable cod-piece. :closed-eyes:

But I am dreaming, wishing and hoping for someone to make late romans. But I guess I have too keep dreaming about plastic late romans.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 11, 2013, 11:51:06 AM
But I am dreaming, wishing and hoping for someone to make late romans. But I guess I have too keep dreaming about plastic late romans.

Have you looked at the Gripping Beast "Dark Age Warriors"?

It claims to be a fairly generic set - I suppose the heads are the critical factor, if there are enough with suitable neat haircuts. I bought a box, and planned to use greenstuff to add the sort of British Romano style hats/caps.

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/photos/plastic%20spure%20F.jpg) 

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 11, 2013, 01:39:41 PM
I heard somewhere the west wind heads (which are metal) fit ok onto those GB guys:

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=165

Looks like they have 30% off the arthurians currently as well!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on August 11, 2013, 02:02:31 PM
I am afraid that the heads and most of all the shields is a problem. While the romans did use round shields, the norm was still large oval shields.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: cjp on August 23, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
Tercio Creativo is coming out with an Armadillo.

While their infantry is too big to use along side Citadel stuff, that might not be as much of an issue with a rennaissance tank since the size can vary a lot  :)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-egL3zB0SWgg/UhJJUU893OI/AAAAAAAAA6A/beUz7PoaR3k/s1600/Carro+Armado_Armadillo_by_Tercio+Creativo.JPG)


From their blog, and dubiously translated by google:

"Here you are the chassis for Armed Wagon, finished, and pieces for Armadillo model. Although we'll add some more additional pieces as lamps, chains, flags or trapdoors, it is those are the basic pieces."

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 24, 2013, 01:22:36 AM
I am liking those that are the basic pieces, and it is the thinking of me that the more additional pieces such as the lamps and the chains and the opening for the trapdoor closings will increase the superior.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 25, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
Not sure if someone has already posted this:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warploqueminiatures/arcworlde-the-fantasy-skirmish-wargame

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/820/126/4dfc51e280441fbd95762b997fa2977e_large.jpg?1376206938)

The grifflings are useful.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/857/159/2a45838d45fff76dcf0dbf5d8725b37e_large.jpg?1377364089)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on August 26, 2013, 07:35:35 AM
new Mantic basileans, suitable for empire. They are metal!

(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/3032.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)

(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/3028.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Advance-Orders/Advance-Order-Basilea.html?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=962606267c-Mantic_Games_Newsletter_221&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_20fe4cf5a8-962606267c-201374917 (http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Advance-Orders/Advance-Order-Basilea.html?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=962606267c-Mantic_Games_Newsletter_221&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_20fe4cf5a8-962606267c-201374917)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 26, 2013, 10:53:34 AM
I want to see sprue pics, or them painted by someone else - those don't look as bad as they did (new pictures?) but they really aren't as nice as they could be.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on August 26, 2013, 08:09:42 PM
I've had high hopes for Mantic's human faction, but they've turned out to be so much different than the Empire.
A big disappointment in my opinion.

They remind me of Heroes of Might and Magic way too much.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 26, 2013, 08:23:02 PM
They have a kind of "Prince Valliant" look to them; a sort of generic fantasy world of high magic and heroes. Some of them might work as Bretonnians, IF the Bretonnians fielded footknights. The strongly religious overtones are nice, but they are more medieval crusader / King Arthur than Renaissance Germanic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on August 26, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
Yes, that's it.
HOMM 3 and 5 fit that description too.

What bothers me is that most their models are still bad.
Zombies and werewolves are amazing.
Ghouls, orcs and chaos dwarves are fine even though some of them lack detail.
Basilean paladins look really nice, but they're more suitable for D&D than tabletop games (other than Mantic's Kings of War). The rest of Basileans is just uninspiring.

40k equivalents look much better than their fantasy stuff.
Especially the rats.

But elves, dark elves and dwarves are just bad. The elves are in fact horrible.
Both as concepts and as miniatures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 26, 2013, 11:53:01 PM
I'm also not sure about those angel things - the human faction seems to be exceptionally specific; is there no "just blokes" army?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Dosiere on August 27, 2013, 05:19:26 AM
I am also underwhelmed by the human Mantic stuff.  They really should just do new elves or get rid of them - they are that bad.

I must say though having browsed their website just now that their Orc and Goblin stuff is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on August 27, 2013, 09:17:40 PM
The Twilight Kin Sorceress is a nice model, well for a dark elf army I did prefer the Raging Heroes kit though. Has anyone got any experience with the Avatars of War range?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on August 27, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
I've seen a few of their heroes.
They have much more detail than most of GW's stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadowlord on August 28, 2013, 10:54:11 AM
Those Mantic.  :icon_biggrin:

They just stopped my plans to go 100% Warmachine to Kings of War instead.

Basils here I come!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on August 28, 2013, 11:47:38 AM
They have a kind of "Prince Valliant" look to them; a sort of generic fantasy world of high magic and heroes. Some of them might work as Bretonnians, IF the Bretonnians fielded footknights. The strongly religious overtones are nice, but they are more medieval crusader / King Arthur than Renaissance Germanic.
Hit the nail right on the head Darknight.
Or I call it american D & D twee, apologies to american gamers ( you know which sculpting styles I mean) not gritty and dark in the slightest .
Reminds me of the early 1980's fantasy humans which is why I used some of the first Chaos warriors as foot knights in my early armies. ::heretic::
One of my sons calls them human high elves  :-P
A great pity now we have to wait and see what the avatars of war humans finally look like. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 29, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
Yes, that's it.
HOMM 3 and 5 fit that description too.

Nah. Heroes of Might & Magic III is awesome (the sytle was a bit different). This Mantic stuff isn't.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: scarletsquig on September 01, 2013, 09:35:12 AM
I want to see sprue pics, or them painted by someone else - those don't look as bad as they did (new pictures?) but they really aren't as nice as they could be.

Here you go:

(http://i.imgur.com/pJQ8Sx1.jpg?1)

They're bloody terrible and I say that as someone who is a fan of Mantic's stuff.

Which is a shame since the paladins and paladin knights are extremely nice miniatures:

(http://www.manticgames.com/ImageCache/Products/2992.1.368.368.FFFFFF.0.jpeg)

Mantic's main problem is that they have exactly one good sculptor... if it's not sculpted by Remy Tremblay, it's often crap.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 01, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
That does look rather bad...  the way the pants sit makes him look like he is a rapper.  Glad I traded out my basileans from my KoW pledge.  Though maybe I should not have pledged for KoW in the first place...  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 01, 2013, 06:11:50 PM
Despite the proven lack of quality of the human mantic stuff, I'm still playing with the idea of getting the grandmaster on lion fig, on the pics it looks decent enough, the priest with long hair as well. I'm not sure about the paladins, even the prepainted plastic Rackham humans look much better, and they are basically free to take, if you can find them....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 01, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
I was weak today (and did have a gift card for FLGS for my birthday) and got some Perry Mercenaries, some Fireforge Templar Infantry, and some Wargames Factory skeletons.

All very nice models - the Templar Infantry are particularly nice, and come with a whole range of options (including crossbows, which is rather nice if you like that sort of thing).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 01, 2013, 07:58:07 PM
Fireforge is on some Mongols

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1239550_645137815505546_864571988_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 01, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
Yeah, chap in the FLGS mentioned as much. I am very happy with the Templar Infantry - making up an elite unit of Sigmarite heavy infantry because I don't have anything Sigmarite in my army yet :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 02, 2013, 07:01:27 AM
DK, Perry has a plastic plate-armoured foot men-at-arms box set in the pipeline. No word on date of release yet, but I suspect it will be around Christmas as last year.

I am waiting for those to bulk my Greatswords to 30 figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 02, 2013, 08:19:04 PM
Are those still the maelstrom bad guys?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-a-world-of-war (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-a-world-of-war)

The miniatures are amazing!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 03, 2013, 12:26:34 AM
From what I gather, yes, its the same guy.  The rumour went that funds from Maelstrom were diverted to Mierce miniatures to fund the sculpting of many of his miniatures prior to Maelstrom's epic crash.  Then they ran a KS campaign and raised lots of money, so perhaps they can keep afloat on that.  I haven't heard too much about any problems with the KS they ran, but it seems like they said April for their delivery date, and not all the stuff is finished.  Though that's nothing new with KS in general...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 03, 2013, 01:24:46 AM
DK, Perry has a plastic plate-armoured foot men-at-arms box set in the pipeline. No word on date of release yet, but I suspect it will be around Christmas as last year.

I am waiting for those to bulk my Greatswords to 30 figures.

I have seen some greens of those (photos, at least) - they look splendid! They wouldn't work with my Greatswords, but i) I am using the Perry stuff for my Tilean mercenary force (just started, with the Perry box I bought on a whim :) ) and ii) I already have 50 Greatswords . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 03, 2013, 04:32:14 AM
Well then the plastic Light Cavalry box set must be of interest to you.

I am planning to use those for my pistoliers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zalminen on September 03, 2013, 11:03:11 AM
Don't know if anyone's posted this already but if anyone wants to create a truly personal army, here's your chance:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/giantgoblingames/personalized-gaming-miniatures-of-you (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/giantgoblingames/personalized-gaming-miniatures-of-you)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: BlackChapel on September 03, 2013, 05:01:49 PM
WULFLAND / 5 miniatures
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/img/Wulfland002.jpg) (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_category=9&controller=category)

Captain of Wulfland  / Different assembly options (7 pieces)
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/img/p/7/9/79-thickbox_default.jpg) (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_product=16&controller=product)

Ice Wizard /  One assembly option (4 pieces)
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/img/p/7/7/77-thickbox_default.jpg) (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_product=17&controller=product)

Veteran with shield / Different assembly options (5 pieces)
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/img/p/8/5/85-thickbox_default.jpg) (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_product=18&controller=product)

Monk with shield / Different assembly options (6 pieces)
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/img/p/8/1/81-thickbox_default.jpg) (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_product=19&controller=product)

Warrior whith hammer / Different assembly options (4 pieces)
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/img/p/8/3/83-thickbox_default.jpg) (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/index.php?id_product=20&controller=product)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 03, 2013, 11:56:39 PM
While those are pretty nice, they don't make Teutogen Guard seem any more expensive...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Your Mother on September 04, 2013, 11:43:19 AM
Looks like Black Chapel makes some imperial guys too. very nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 04, 2013, 06:23:36 PM
While those are pretty nice, they don't make Teutogen Guard seem any more expensive...

I would rather put them in the unit of Teutogens as characters then RnF, the price inidicates just that. Spanish sculptors almost never dissapoint. Looks like Brother Vinni has some strong competiton these days.

(http://images.ecwid.com/images/844103/131218378.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 04, 2013, 06:31:39 PM
It has allready been pointed to the new mongolians by Fireforge. Here are their new horse archers, my favourite choice, I hope they make them sooner then later.

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Mongol-Light-Cavalry-Front.jpg)

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2013/04/fireforge-games-pictures-of-plastic.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2013/04/fireforge-games-pictures-of-plastic.html)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on September 04, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
Loving the Black chapel's Captain of Wulfland.
The iconography is unmistakable and the style is very GW-like.

I'll probably get one even though I don't have a Middenland army.
It's such a nice figure.
I'd like to have it in my collection.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 06, 2013, 08:23:41 AM
I wonder if anyone succeded in mixing these Crusader minis with the Republican guards? When I serched the net these came out as the only viable substitute! If they fit well I would buy dozens of them.

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/mew003.jpg)

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=198&cat=5&sub=16&page=1 (http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=198&cat=5&sub=16&page=1)

And you can get them here post free world wide!
http://www.caliverbooks.com/figures/catviewer.php?0c3dffc6ae14ce2b9300213ed7e486d2&producer=63&range=Wars%20of%20the%20Roses (http://www.caliverbooks.com/figures/catviewer.php?0c3dffc6ae14ce2b9300213ed7e486d2&producer=63&range=Wars%20of%20the%20Roses)

Also these Front Rank musketeers are really growing on me!

(http://www.lead-adventure.de/gallery/11/577_01_10_12_6_21_05_1.jpg)

http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_13_1_0_Late_17th_Century_1685_-_1700_Infantry.asp?show=all (http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_13_1_0_Late_17th_Century_1685_-_1700_Infantry.asp?show=all)

Painted by this guy:
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=47074.0 (http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=47074.0)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: andremmuller on September 06, 2013, 09:10:43 AM
Thank you to everyone for this amazing resource!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on September 06, 2013, 09:25:11 PM
I've used the Crusader figures in my Republican guards, they are pretty good but a little small - they are fine on the back rank
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 06, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
I see, thanks for the info, though not so encouraging as I hoped would be. Maybe I could mix them more succesfully with the Leopolds company then, those are preatty small, like 25mm.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 07, 2013, 02:09:09 AM
When I bought those Crusader figures, they were being sold by Corvus Beli. I assume Crusader bought them, because the sculpting doesn't match the rest of the Crusader (Mark Sims) figures. (Either different sculptor, or commissioned from Mr. Sims but in a different style.)

The infantry are taller & thinner than GW, Front Rank, Artizan, even Foundry. So while they're slightly more realistic, they don't quite match the others 100% I did what  Uryens de Crux suggests, and put them in the back ranks. They are still very well sculpted figures, though!

The cavalry from that range are also nice. Because the horses are so large, they are also some of the best matches for GW. Because even those other companies with bigger infantry usually have tiny horses compared to GW. Here's an example:

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/cavcomp4.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 08, 2013, 12:12:16 AM
Crocodile Games https://www.crocodilegames.com/ have just finished a Kickstarter - I didn't know about it, but the various levels weren't something I would be interested in, so no worry. Sculpted by Chris Fitzpatrick (who did a lot of the initial Dark Eldar release) they are a Classical mythology inspired collection - some very nice stuff in the offing. I have a few of their models, and they are very nice. If these Kickstarted models are as good, this will be a very happy thing :)

Well, perhaps not happy for my wallet - I had just decided to finish my army :) These new shiny things will add to the units I want to make.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 09, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
After realising that old Dogs of war minis size wise actually belong to the historical department, it was easy to find some substitutes:

Renegade make excellent Lost legion minis substitutes:

(http://www.renegademiniatures.com/gal/gal/holgerg.jpg)

(http://www.renegademiniatures.com/ecw/images/figures/ecwp9.jpg)

http://www.renegademiniatures.com/gallery7.htm (http://www.renegademiniatures.com/gallery7.htm)

a small review of them:https://suite101.com/a/renegade-miniatures-a69141 (https://suite101.com/a/renegade-miniatures-a69141)
Crusader make nice Braganza besiegers stand ins

(http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/images/mew007.jpg)

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=202&cat=5&sub=16&page=1 (http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/prod.php?prod=202&cat=5&sub=16&page=1)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 09, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
The Perry "Mercenaries" set could also be used to make some very nice Brazanga's replacements - I think one could comfortably get 16 crossbowmen in heavy armor with Pavaises out of the kit; the kit is $35 and comes with 40 figures. The resulting figures are close enough for horseshoes, I think.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 10, 2013, 04:44:51 AM
The Perry European Mercenaries set will give you enough crossbows for 12 but not enough fully-plate-armoured figures:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/328301.page

If you want to field them with full plate, you may have to wait for the Foot Men-at-Arms set to be released (hopefully) later this year and then use the crossbow arms with the fully-armoured torsos.

Plenty of feathered helmets though.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 10, 2013, 01:41:45 PM
You could certainly get a bunch of "armored enough" to count as Heavy Armor, I think. HA doesn't need to be all-enclosing plate. Would certainly be an option to fill out the bank ranks inexpensively (especially if you are using the rest of the set elsewhere).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 12, 2013, 07:10:11 AM
I've just found this beautifull set by Front rank figurines. They also have baggiage carriage set, which is kinda irresistible not to have.

(http://www.frontrank.com/images/additional2/95.jpg)

(http://www.frontrank.com/images/additional3/89.jpg)

http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_3_0_Medieval_Speciality_Packs.asp (http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_3_0_Medieval_Speciality_Packs.asp)

They also have the cheapest command figs on the net! and nice looking too.

(http://www.frontrank.com/images/additional1/72.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 12, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
Those are nice figures - good find, Darius!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on September 18, 2013, 01:31:08 AM
New Landsknecht Handgunners from Pro Gloria are available for pre-order!

http://shop.progloria.com/product_info.php?cPath=34_42&products_id=116
(http://shop.progloria.com/images/ashop-2-gro%C3%9F.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on September 24, 2013, 12:56:11 PM
Those are really nice, and nice price too (I think).
I really want to get into the non-GW miniatures

I used to think the green color on miniatures was greenstuff added to the miniatures, but in this case I would be wrong, right?


edit: I wrote game instead of case, which made no sense.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 24, 2013, 01:41:32 PM
I used to think the green color on miniatures was greenstuff added to the miniatures, but in this game I would be wrong, right?

No     :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on September 24, 2013, 01:54:20 PM
First I apologize I wrote game instead of case.

Looking for answer on their website I see that its not totally finished, which hints towards a small business. My first guess is that they/he/she uses as base other models and then *upgrades* them with details. After he/she could create mold and make copies to sell or just repeat the process for each order.

If they do green stuff in each model then would mean that no model would be the same, which I think would be really nice.

Colder or warmer?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 24, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
You are right,  only that the upgrading is  here on purpose, meaning the sculptor can create new figures, without having to go all the way from the scratch, but not only that, he can make new figs with the same proportions and fashion as the rest of the line and he is saving a lot of time along the way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 24, 2013, 05:01:19 PM
Even non-professional sculptors can buy precast metal "dollies" from a few different companies, and then sculpt your own details on them. They range from abstract armatures, to skeletons, to "nude" figures. I think most pros use their own to speed thinks up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 24, 2013, 05:04:37 PM
Here's some examples of commercially available dollies.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/dol01.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 25, 2013, 08:51:21 AM
Even GW have always used dollies to convert more variants from. While it owuld indeed be nice if each common soldier had it's own unique full sculpt, that is simply not affordable.

As it is, my own private project has reused conversion of bodies in some of the sets and even with that it is still far from the break even point. There's just not enough money in it to do as you suggested.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 26, 2013, 07:13:03 PM
Brother Vinni has joined the ''morion'' club.  :::cheers:::

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c3df8ad0799ec5a3a3528e475/images/spain_01_00.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 29, 2013, 09:39:50 PM
Raging heeroes' new ''toys''. Knowing the quality they can achieve with the final figs, this will probably be their best seller.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy)

(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad27/Raging-Heroes/TGG/comparatif-one-shot-concept-3D-print_zps82850262.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on September 29, 2013, 09:43:11 PM
Wait. Is she wearing Mickey ears?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 29, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
Supposedly..........french humour. :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 03, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/1bf278b4ecf88156324715749f77c9bf.jpg)

Not sure if those already popped up....but they even put it in their name that they are a rip off.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 03, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
Wow, they have some really nice sculpts there.  The prices aren't too bad either, mostly on par with the more current GW core troops.  The examples on the site look nicer IMO... I guess it also depends on the quality once they are in your hand.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 04, 2013, 07:24:59 AM
Forge world has some real competition here, and they are made from metal and for 1.7€ a piece.

Wait, have  I just said you can buy an excellent metal dwarf figure for a 1.7€, with ten in a box? I must be dreaming.  :icon_cool:

http://russian-alternative.ru/our_models/ (http://russian-alternative.ru/our_models/)

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=47332.0 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=47332.0)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 04, 2013, 07:45:09 AM
Free markets baby....competition is gooooooooooooood......
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 04, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
Unfortunately, Dwarfs are still stunted little freaks and need to be pogrommed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Your Mother on October 05, 2013, 05:32:34 PM
Came upon this. Not sure of the scale though.
http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/ (http://terciocreativo.blogspot.com/)



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 05, 2013, 07:26:23 PM
After 4Ground it appears someone is producing plastic buildings - per NorthStar

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1184903_695753850453520_1363876611_n.png)

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/q71/s720x720/579125_695753830453522_1595183212_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 06, 2013, 01:58:39 AM
Good to see.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on October 07, 2013, 09:19:21 AM
After 4Ground it appears someone is producing plastic buildings

But without the snazzy interiors....
https://www.facebook.com/4Groundmodels/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=547548238649658&set=pb.250157281722090.-2207520000.1381137465.&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/4Groundmodels/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=547548238649658&set=pb.250157281722090.-2207520000.1381137465.&type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 07, 2013, 09:35:56 AM
Agreed but it depends on the price of the plastic stuff.

The 4Ground Wild West town buildings are great - I had a close up look at Salute.
Their Saxon / Medieval hovels have interior detailing - not as much as the Wild West stuff, but then again for fantasy warhammer or historical just lifting the roof off is enough to be able to let roops occupy it - and 'furniture' woud probably get in the way of your handgunners.  :engel:

For skirmish games detail is better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on October 07, 2013, 09:38:52 AM
and 'furniture' woud probably get in the way of your handgunners.  :engel:

No  :-D

https://www.facebook.com/4Groundmodels/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=546775822060233&set=pb.250157281722090.-2207520000.1381137465.&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/4Groundmodels/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=546775822060233&set=pb.250157281722090.-2207520000.1381137465.&type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 07, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
I've got 3 Wagons ..............  they're lovely.


 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on October 07, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
Post deleted. Accidentally quoted something over a year old.  :icon_redface: :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 07, 2013, 07:51:35 PM
I've got 3 Wagons ..............  they're lovely.


 :engel:

And with some rules they don΄t get a penalty for moving and shooting....but that really isn΄t that important.
 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 07, 2013, 08:14:46 PM
Here is some dromedarii, well not camels, but close

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=pro&pre=wld_act_rom_aux_603_000
Maelstrom went bust, dude.

That post was from like 2 years ago...  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 08, 2013, 05:24:13 AM
These aren΄t too bad

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/PW_Troopers-unit-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 09, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
FANTASTIC CAPTASUS ...or engi on robohorse,

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/6.png)

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=91724 (http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=91724)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on October 09, 2013, 08:22:37 PM
Those puppetwars models are 3€ each + p&p. nice but expensive.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on October 09, 2013, 08:24:34 PM
Those puppetwars models are 3€ each + p&p. nice but expensive.
You have GOTTA be kidding!?! :-o
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on October 11, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
(http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/img_big/1bf278b4ecf88156324715749f77c9bf.jpg)

Not sure if those already popped up....but they even put it in their name that they are a rip off.

these are really good!
and a surprisingly friendly customers service!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 11, 2013, 02:11:44 PM
Interesting story ahead

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-first-edition (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mierceminiatures/darklands-first-edition)

Mierce Miniatures second kickstarter some of the models ...even though very expensive and resin....are incredibly good if GW had some of their designers Warriors of Chaos would look .....friggintastic.

what an amazing bloodthirster or Demonprince....

(http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/stretch_goals_66666_malacant.jpg)

but also lots of fantastic miniatures the Norse and the Drune especially look fine

(http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/ks2/reward_encounter_hosts.jpg)

well but the last time I posted some Mierce minis in here I was reminded by Midaski that there was a connection between Mierce and the former Maelstrom company.....

I posted as much on the German Brόckenkopf side an online magazine that updates mini news on a daily basis in the commentary section.....something along the lines well if they have connections to the former Maelstrom that ripped many customers off I wouldn΄t put too much trust into a kickstarter by such a company ...even though the models ARE lovely. My post was deleted within minutes.

There was a bit of a discussion as other people also were pointing out this and they basically said...that Mierce doesn΄t have much to do with the former Maelstrom and that it is highly unfair to ruin the reputation of the firm.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 12, 2013, 02:19:55 PM
I understood the guy who owned Maelstrom also owned Mierce.

If that has changed then your comment is justified Fandir.

However if I am right then your german site are idiots.

 :closed-eyes:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 12, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
From what I know the guy is at the very least now working for Mierce (ex Maelstrom Tim or what his name was).

I just wondered why my post of...better don΄t trust those suckers too much ....was deleted so quickly.



Might be because they thought they might be held responsible...or maybe they get a bit of money or free samples from the companies they report about...don΄t know.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Rowly on October 13, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
A fair few members of the Herdstone have bought from Mierce and appear to have no problems. This is from before and after Malestrom fell apart. I can't, however, guarantee it's free from risk of course but anecdotal evidence seems to show Mierce, whether operated by the same people or not, does appear to operate within expected parameters - ie you pay and you get your stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 13, 2013, 04:06:19 PM
I looked it up a bit, and found this public statement from the management of Mierce: http://www.thefieldsofblood.com/2012/12/the-word-from-inside-maelstrom.html

I have never ordered from either company, but I am hesitant to do so. The complaints I've read are all similar, that Maelstrom took payment for orders and pre-orders after they were already in a hole of debit, withut an ability to actually fulfil those orders. So a lot of people got screwed.

From the link above, if I understand correctly, their explanation is that although the same people operate(d) both companies, and while they coexisted they were even opeting under the same roof, they are should be considered two different businesses, and therefore people shouldn't judge one company based on the failures of the other.

Most of it seems like excuse-making that fails the test of logic.

I feel bad because the creative side of Mierce doesnt seem to have had much/any direct involvement in the mismanagement of Maelstrom in its final days, and my understanding is that Maelstrom was a great retailer for years. But its going to be hard for thm to shed the reputation of the past as loing as its th same management.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 13, 2013, 04:09:10 PM
Sorry for the typos above. My phone is acting glitchy and won't let me edit...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 14, 2013, 06:18:11 AM
New Gamezone plastics High Elves

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AdW_Radaddel-Gamezone-Elfen-Veteranen-1.jpg)

30 for 25,50 €
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 14, 2013, 02:37:50 PM
I ordered from Mierce (a big colossus model) and it arrived just fine. No issues. This was before the Maelstrom problem, however.

The resin it is made from is weird, though - a little grainy and not terribly hard. Easy to work with, but strange nevertheless.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 14, 2013, 06:35:05 PM
I have had this on my radar for ages  .... waiting ......... and waiting ..............

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sMp-7sNfjUQ/S36xJ1lp2DI/AAAAAAAAAC0/hYX7OOCglbM/s320/DSCF0001.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sMp-7sNfjUQ/S3VhMtSocWI/AAAAAAAAABs/dNZt1raSpHA/s320/DSCF0003.jpg)

from
http://arsenalminiatures.blogspot.co.uk/



Now I read this ............

http://www.warlordgames.com/39991/warlord-games-purchases-arsenal-miniatures-range/?utm_source=Warlord%20Games%20Newsletter&utm_campaign=e729d7e902-Newsletter_11_October_2013&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b7e928b4ed-e729d7e902-121427594

Feel the Estalian Love ..................  :engel:



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on October 14, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
Me too Midaski.
It looks like Don Franciso De Mendoza finally gets the additional troops needed to aid Von T. :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on October 14, 2013, 10:56:46 PM
Fandir, I am quite certasin the guy who owned Maelstrom owns Mierce. He is a right bell-end, by all accounts.



I'm disappointed in the gamezone high elves, the halberd ones are fantastic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Rowly on October 15, 2013, 01:11:52 PM
Company's House does show a distinct link between Mierce and Maelstrom. As in, registered from the same address and it shows that Maelstrom changed their name to Mierce. I was never going to order anyway but I'd be more cautious than before, now I've seen it with my own eyes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 16, 2013, 10:47:45 PM
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/KL_Orc-Schmeisser-Greatcoat-Squad.jpg)

Perfect for Bolt Action!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 17, 2013, 01:41:52 PM
Hasslefree has some cats for mounts, perfect for your demichicken hero. Resin OR metal.



http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=sabre%252dtoothed-tigress-%26-base-%28resin%29~hfm031&category=miniatures~*resin-figures* (http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=sabre%252dtoothed-tigress-%26-base-%28resin%29~hfm031&category=miniatures~*resin-figures*)

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFM031%20Sabre-Toothed%20Tigress%20(resin)%20web.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 22, 2013, 09:57:15 AM
Another line of heroic miniatures with an interesting background story twist, will have also empire-like mounted heroes.

http://www.axfaction.com/#!gallery-series2/c1jp1 (http://www.axfaction.com/#!gallery-series2/c1jp1)


(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/be57e5_3f5705b4f2ba0943133e16209c7566ce.jpg_srz_764_593_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on October 22, 2013, 10:49:55 AM
wow! I especially like their grizzled vet on highland bull as demigryphs for my ostland army. To bad they are 32mm. Does anyone know how these compare to heroic gw?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 22, 2013, 10:59:26 PM
Those all look rather fun!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on October 29, 2013, 06:36:02 AM
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SPIEL-2013-Freebooter-11.jpg)

Zombie Squid


Also Gamezone has some interesting news there is talk about a Heroquest anniversary edition

http://www.heroquestclassic.com/ (http://www.heroquestclassic.com/)

(http://i.imgur.com/bskta2r.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 13, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Privateer press has some models that could pass as witch hunters, or engineers  and they are cheaper than the mother company.

(http://privateerpress.com/files/products/31057_Black13thGunMageStrikeTeam_WEB.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 13, 2013, 07:53:08 PM
Just had the Fireforge newsletter.
I already think they do wonderful plastic Crusades/medieval stuff and they have some new products on the way

They have mixed sprues from existing kits to make it easier to make mounted crossbowmen.
http://www.fireforge-games.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=487&category_id=13&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=95

Then we have these:

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1394091_677924378893556_365872620_n.jpg)

More pics
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.684034288282565.1073741835.271339052885426&type=3


Light Cavalry

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/487904_584583491560979_453615686_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/404751_584583624894299_235342040_n.jpg)


More pics:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.584583464894315.1073741825.271339052885426&type=3


Heavy Cavalry - which could be plasrin

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1235271_645456815473646_1492206185_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1170687_645137628838898_105216584_n.jpg)

More pics
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.645137525505575.1073741828.271339052885426&type=3

Early part of next year - so probably ready for Salute in April

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 13, 2013, 10:24:58 PM
Awsome!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377044_664870530198941_2034051731_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/966735_684013674951293_1864247735_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1398544_682112375141423_130817225_o.jpg)

This is now urgent to speed up with my DoWs before the camel and horse archers are out. Just a couple of months of time ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 19, 2013, 11:28:58 AM
New goodness from Brother Vinni:

(http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/844103/186504573.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on November 22, 2013, 09:13:03 PM
Those mongols are amazing especially the light cavalry....great dynamic.




I love these a lot too

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/FF_Freebooters-Fate-Don-Pavo.jpg)

(http://forgottenflix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Sean-Connery-Highlander.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/FF_Freebooters-Fate-Montero-Guaca.jpg)

(http://www.filmtrout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/21877_indiana_jones_.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 05, 2013, 06:26:24 AM
(http://khurasanminiatures.tripod.com/28mm-fed-autocannon.jpg)

9$ for one isn΄t too expensive either

Khurasan miniatures ODIN Autocannon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on December 05, 2013, 07:50:51 PM
Do you like Kev addams orcs? Just click it.

https://plus.google.com/photos/106465868337524252567/albums/5953943252253758129
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 05, 2013, 08:09:43 PM
Nice, are they just posting the pictures, or are they actually selling them again?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on December 05, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
It's a bit complicated. I've enjoyed some FB talk with Bryan Ansell, and from what I could understand, they are contemplating how a re-release is to be made. Some have shown up on ebay UK (see below):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/goblinwar/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

It is some sort of test. Supposedly, the rest will show up and hopefully not just under "UK only".
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on December 05, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
Those are pretty nice. If you have not bought my Christmas present its your opportunity *wink*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Rowly on December 06, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
Do you like Kev addams orcs? Just click it.

https://plus.google.com/photos/106465868337524252567/albums/5953943252253758129


ooh, I do, I do! I've been wanting to get a set of the Great Orcs. Went to the Foundry website to order them and couldn't find them at all. I'd never even realised they'd been pulled until I wanted some...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 06, 2013, 03:18:28 PM
[shameless plug]
Meanwhile, you can always prepare yourself for their re-release by getting some of my Kev Adams goblins that go very well with them.  :engel:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dYUtqYB6sg8/Tq_8R_9Nx7I/AAAAAAAAAYA/Nf_a25W6gDg/s1600/ggroup03.jpg)

Comparison to some of the Foundry orcs:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TiU8qLDlQCQ/ThB5m1elS6I/AAAAAAAAAQQ/CWO1NUySRhw/s1600/Ggroup01.jpg)
[/shameless plug]
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 07, 2013, 12:43:46 PM
Damn you
I want goblins now


Do you do ogres in that style ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 08, 2013, 01:25:57 AM
I keep suggesting it to him, we can hope he will one day...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 08, 2013, 10:10:51 AM
I will one day.

Ogres in the style of the old Marauder ones are on John Pickford's to do list for me. Maybe we'll even get around to do the first ones over the course of next year.  :blush:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 08, 2013, 06:39:16 PM
Nice, that's exciting!  Are you planning multipart or single pose for the big guys?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 09, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
Undecided yet. Maybe both. :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on December 11, 2013, 09:00:01 AM
Damn you
I want goblins now

Did I mention I also do goblin characters in that style, including wizards and warrior priests?  :engel:


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eva8QEvvdL8/UC-8c7_tG9I/AAAAAAAAA4U/KqUsyorsVfI/s1600/gobwizbits1.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i9yVe_jyupE/UC-8ebM-hPI/AAAAAAAAA4g/c0kfuLT9VSQ/s1600/gobwizbits3.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7Uu3-Td6-nU/UC-91QgTB-I/AAAAAAAAA48/vTe3vjD9YMU/s320/mgobcleric.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KF-zosOCoOg/TwtfrZv_TwI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/eoYam7z-izA/s320/gobhero.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Nt4tCRN89o/UCFIuJsU2fI/AAAAAAAAA2I/NsZM0xllQF4/s1600/gobboprince.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_e4aRIbcI8Y/UCFHgqx1RfI/AAAAAAAAA2A/GXm-fdkhhHU/s1600/cortez.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Y7Mfy5Ybojk/Twtf1SRYLlI/AAAAAAAAAmY/dVcUU2RNtUU/s1600/combits1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on December 11, 2013, 07:47:00 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 13, 2013, 09:47:42 AM
Foundry has a very nice metal cannon and crew, even cheaper than the plastic set from GW's and you even get one crew extra. It's all metal :

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Wargames-Foundry-Renaissance-Mercenary-Gunners-and-Demi-Cannon-REN026-/00/s/MjUxWDM3NA==/z/xKkAAOxyA4ZRJgUZ/$(KGrHqVHJF!FEl30s+TrBRJgUZip+!~~60_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wargames-Foundry-Renaissance-Mercenary-Gunners-and-Demi-Cannon-REN026-/121070281310?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item1c3059e25e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wargames-Foundry-Renaissance-Mercenary-Gunners-and-Demi-Cannon-REN026-/121070281310?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item1c3059e25e)

Werewoolf miniatures from Poland finally realized what we need: Torsos without arms and heads. Now you can finally assemble all the troopers from the GW's sets. All from resin and cheaper than FW. Let's support this young company and buy massively!

Handgunners/crossbows

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Lusitanian-Jungle-Marksman-Body-5-/00/s/MzcxWDcwMA==/z/bIEAAMXQfvlSfiML/$(KGrHqZ,!lIFJn2h6KPiBSfiMLP)NQ~~60_3.JPG)

Swordmen/Greatswords

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Lusitanian-Jungle-Explorers-Body-5-/00/s/MzcxWDcwMA==/z/1ocAAOxydB1SfiKn/$(KGrHqZ,!mIFJpS+2+BMBSfiKnszIQ~~60_3.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Lusitanian-Jungle-Marksman-Body-5-/291034634623?pt=Games_US&hash=item43c304197f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Werewoolf-Miniatures-Lusitanian-Jungle-Marksman-Body-5-/291034634623?pt=Games_US&hash=item43c304197f)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on December 13, 2013, 09:49:19 AM
And they are landsknechtastic!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on December 13, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
Werewoolf miniatures from Poland finally realized what we need: Torsos without arms and heads. Now you can finally assemble all the troopers from the GW's sets. All from resin and cheaper than FW. Let's support this young company and buy massively!

High shipping, but if you're buying more than 1 set it is worth the cost.  I'm not a huge fan of resin models, but I might pick some up.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on December 13, 2013, 08:16:20 PM
The werewolf stuff looks great. I really like the kislev ogre. Might get my self one for xmas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on December 13, 2013, 08:24:49 PM
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SPIEL-2013-Freebooter-11.jpg)

Zombie Squid



who makes these fandir?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 14, 2013, 12:59:36 PM
I think Freebooters fate are making those eventually.  Not sure if they are released yet?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 20, 2013, 10:59:40 PM
Here they are -  not too bad, but the light cav should be even more juicy.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EOW55sSCgrg/UrM5K9w0s7I/AAAAAAAAWVw/6Gr3jj2BGbc/s1600/906160_694369737249020_112957822_o.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tHXzjx8iD50/UrM5JzEEiqI/AAAAAAAAWVk/QsZ2ywhhkqs/s1600/1401412_689877811031546_2021241987_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on December 22, 2013, 06:48:23 PM
scibor has some new humans: http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?group=144


(http://www.sciborminiatures.com/i/2013/big/town_guard_p_set_02.jpg)

(http://www.sciborminiatures.com/i/2013/big/jester_drummer_01.jpg)

(http://www.sciborminiatures.com/i/2012/big/vampire_hunter_p_02.jpg)

plenty more pics on their website
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mogsam on January 07, 2014, 09:53:52 AM
Anyone know of a decent site for large ogre sized weapons? I don't have time to muck about with casting my own before March!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 10, 2014, 08:24:11 AM
Raging Heroes concept art for their new Sci Fi Dark Elves....

this might be interesting.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/RH_Raging-Heroes-Sci-Fi-Dark-Elves-Yscarloth.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 17, 2014, 08:53:20 AM
Firstly there's this very usefull miniature gaming portal with fresh news, tutorials, working links to the official sites and what not. Highly recommended. http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/ (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/)

And secondly another very talented miniature artist from Uncle Sam after a succesfull kisckstater campaign started his own business. http://imbrianarts.com/ (http://imbrianarts.com/)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/192/190/e7c7096b05b8210be812342f52f59032_large.jpg?1381866225)
Awesome, don't you think?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 17, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
Great alternative demigryphons I would say.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on January 17, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
Great alternative demigryphons I would say.
Problem is that rider is already fixed to his mount. And his gear is leather/cloth. Not much use when DG riders are equipped with full plate armour.....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on January 17, 2014, 05:00:13 PM
It's magic armour...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on January 17, 2014, 07:34:01 PM
I really like the concept.  I was considering getting one for my Warriors of Chaos army (Daemonic Mount).  But the attached rider and pose were major negatives.

The model is in white metal and hanging off its back foot.  Not good.

On the topics of blogs, one of my daily visits is http://ttfix.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on January 17, 2014, 08:28:41 PM
I really like the concept.  I was considering getting one for my Warriors of Chaos army (Daemonic Mount).  But the attached rider and pose were major negatives.

The model is in white metal and hanging off its back foot.  Not good.

On the topics of blogs, one of my daily visits is http://ttfix.blogspot.com/
That's white metal? God, that picture is complete crap, then! I thought it was plastic.....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on January 17, 2014, 08:38:05 PM
The photo could be of a primed model, or a resin master cast of the sculpt...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on January 17, 2014, 09:59:35 PM
I really like the concept.  I was considering getting one for my Warriors of Chaos army (Daemonic Mount).  But the attached rider and pose were major negatives.

The model is in white metal and hanging off its back foot.  Not good.

On the topics of blogs, one of my daily visits is http://ttfix.blogspot.com/
That's white metal? God, that picture is complete crap, then! I thought it was plastic.....

Material: White metal (http://imbrianarts.com/desertcreatures/rider/index.html)

It is very unlikely that a small company would produce plastic models.  Injection molded plastic is very expensive.  Most models from small companies will be white metal or a light resin (slightly darker than finecast).

It's also not uncommon to see painted, primed, or resin casts.  It shows off the detail a lot better than bare metal.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 17, 2014, 10:01:02 PM
I wonder about the water treatment the plastic dudes are using....most plastic injection companies...if small enough don΄t treat their cooling water properly and therefore their tools corrode rather quickly leading to high maintenance costs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 18, 2014, 02:08:30 PM
Tercio creativo offers good selection of characters http://http://www.terciocreativo.com/

for a reasonable price

(http://www.terciocreativo.com/tienda/images/Alguacil_Guardia_de_Ysbilia.jpg)
 8.5€


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on January 19, 2014, 07:45:29 PM
Crature Caster....

Holy Moly those suckers are nice greater Demons sculpts

http://www.creaturecaster.com/collections/all (http://www.creaturecaster.com/collections/all)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0229/8431/products/bal2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1388827094)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0229/8431/products/aru8_1024x1024.jpg?v=1388546591)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 29, 2014, 12:25:36 PM
More dwarfs figs from For A miniatures:

(http://www.fouraminiatures.com/USERIMAGES/100_2520.JPG)

(http://www.fouraminiatures.com/USERIMAGES/100_2525.JPG)

http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm (http://www.fouraminiatures.com/page2.htm)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 30, 2014, 11:46:39 AM
Russian alternative has produced some more superb chaos dwarfs for the dwarfs fans:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/x18AAOxyUrZS2BrK/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dwarves-of-Fire-Canyon-with-Great-Weapon-metallic-Russian-Alternative-/171219409724?pt=Games_US&hash=item27dd78db3c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dwarves-of-Fire-Canyon-with-Great-Weapon-metallic-Russian-Alternative-/171219409724?pt=Games_US&hash=item27dd78db3c)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Siberius on January 30, 2014, 01:59:36 PM
That's exactly how the new GW ones should have looked. They have the dodgy fashion sense of the old ones with the modern grit of newer armies. I would revamp my chaos dwarfs if the new ones looked this way.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 30, 2014, 07:12:10 PM
You could get some of those Russian Alts, Sibby - they look pretty sweet. Give some money to Vladimir Putin. He's a top bloke.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on January 30, 2014, 07:28:02 PM
Besides. the Ruble just hit a 5-year low and is said to decline further.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 01, 2014, 01:00:33 PM
Cold war is over my friends, in case you didn't notice :wink:


Fireforge Games: Plastic Mongol Light Cavalry Preview and Release Date

Fireforge Games has previewed their upcoming plastic Mongol Light Cavalry. The release date is on the 12th of April, for Salute 2014 convention.


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CLAJ_kHWLIk/UuviI6mm2fI/AAAAAAAAY6Y/VEUgBZLAHT8/s1600/1622783_737840816235245_1826147821_n.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yV9JQwE4FbY/UuviJNy7-JI/AAAAAAAAY6c/qxTWeAbIkwg/s1600/1795711_737840879568572_1497716146_n.jpg)




(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R1lLD_QwFZ4/UuviNVng7TI/AAAAAAAAY60/s4Dp-vjcRpc/s1600/x176.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--OmfhZZyMdQ/UuviMzDnXMI/AAAAAAAAY6w/W5m7v3ppL8g/s1600/1524379_737180099634650_1235452856_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: shavixmir on February 02, 2014, 08:12:01 AM
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/avatars-of-war/dwarf-ironshields/prod_19322.html (http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/avatars-of-war/dwarf-ironshields/prod_19322.html)

Can anyone tell me what this is all about?
The Avatars of war iron shields have a release date in June... but, surely, I saw them in the shops a couple of months ago???
What's going on?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on February 02, 2014, 01:38:57 PM
The previous models were resin.  They're being reproduced in plastic.

According to AoW they also changed how the models are assembled.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on February 02, 2014, 02:14:56 PM
Avatars of war give GW really a run regarding plastic kits right now I hope the manage to keep the pace.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 03, 2014, 01:30:39 AM
Those mongols are really lovely models - I suspect we'll see a bunch of those proxying as pistoliers. Rapid-firing horse archers could = guns-slinging cavalry? :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on February 03, 2014, 01:35:07 AM
Meh. I dislike the horses. Will wait for the Perry Light Cavalry, methinks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on February 03, 2014, 02:55:20 AM
I can't wait to see what Fireforge does with the Saracens.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 03, 2014, 07:58:05 AM
Those mongols are really lovely models - I suspect we'll see a bunch of those proxying as pistoliers. Rapid-firing horse archers could = guns-slinging cavalry? :)

They could also proxy for Kisleev archers, especialy when you mix them with  a couple of  gw OOP fiigs, which are only available on ebay and hard to get.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 10, 2014, 01:15:08 PM
These minis from Mierce miniatures could proxy for Middenheim or cult of Ulric army:

(http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/store_mierceminiatures/images_product/mrm_dkl_ang_mrc_wcf_151_000_01_large.png)
(http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/store_mierceminiatures/images_product/mrm_dkl_ang_mrc_wcf_161_000_01_large.png)

http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_ang_mrc_wcf_151_000 (http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_ang_mrc_wcf_151_000)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on February 10, 2014, 02:02:34 PM
I think Mierce miniatures are 30mm scale, and those are definitely 30mm bases.

Those models would be pretty big next to GW State Troops.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 10, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
What is the current view on Mierce given their past (?) association with Maelstrom?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 10, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
run by the same guy.
Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, and definitely wouldn't buy from them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 14, 2014, 12:02:12 PM
Too bad about the Mierce miniatures, those minis look decent.


New orks from :  shieldwolfminiatures.com and for a decent price( not rip off like weknowwho).

(http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/images/detailed/0/Mountain_Orcs_Cover_Artwork.jpg)

from: http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=46 (http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=46)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on February 14, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
run by the same guy.
Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, and definitely wouldn't buy from them

I'd also spit at the bastard for good measure. Still owes me an order of about 130 pounds from when Maelstrom went under, the useless twat.
Wouldn't even waste a piss on this guy if he was on fire.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on February 14, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
New orks from :  shieldwolfminiatures.com and for a decent price( not rip off like weknowwho).

Looked at them, was really interested.  But looking at the actual models...no thanks.

(http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/images/detailed/0/Mountain_Orcs_Infantry_front_view_by_Shieldwolf_Miniatures.jpg)

On the subject of the upcoming dwarves, Titan Forge showed off a zeppelin (https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/609/958/b342a5ff7a5493012464678508941541_large.jpg).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 14, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
That is a . . . unique interpretation of the faces . . .

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on February 14, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
that zepplin (assuming it's still WIP)...
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/609/958/b342a5ff7a5493012464678508941541_large.jpg)

would make a great alternative for the scifi looking apache helicopter GW has released
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on February 14, 2014, 05:02:49 PM
It still looks insanely heavy for what it is. I am no engineer, but my grandfather was chief aerodynamicist at BAE and he impressed upon me the need for flying machines to be light. There is a reason early airplanes were built out of thread and canvas, and modern aircraft are made out of expensive aluminum rather than cheaper steel. Lighter-than-air machines function because the lifting mechanism - the balloon filled with the lighter-than-air gas (either hot air or helium etc.) is very, very large in comparison to the thing being lifted.

Here is some bad math (TM); that balloon has a volume of about 700 cubic feet (based on it being about a 13ft sphere, which is based on an estimation it is four 40mm bases long and two 40 mm high, average of three 40mm bases in diameter if it were a sphere, 28mm=6ft in scale, which means 120mm = about 26ft).

This link http://science.howstuffworks.com/helium2.htm breaks a lot of this down for you. Key detail is here;

Quote
One cubic foot of helium will lift about 28.2 grams, so multiply the volume of the balloon by 28.2.

Actual figure is 707 cu ft - so that is slightly less than 20kg lifting capacity if it is filled with helium.

Helium is a noble gas, difficult to generate. Hydrogen is surprisingly easy (acids reacting with bases) so is more likely.

Based on the information on that site, hydrogen is 0.089888 g / liter while air is 1.25 g / liter.

Our balloon is 20020 liters - so that much air would weigh 25.025kg, and that much hydrogen would weigh 1.8kg. A lifting capacity of 23.225kg . . .

I understand this is fantasy - one isn't expecting some realistically-scaled balloon; exaggeration is fine. But the armored nature of it looks just too much and too heavy. It needs to be a light wicker basket, or a canvas box, or something. Not a hulking great open-topped-tank.



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on February 14, 2014, 05:09:54 PM
It is just canvas and wood, painted to look like armour, to impress the enemy.  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Aldaris on February 14, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
This is one of the first Mantic Minis I genuinely like:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4yWPfXWGhnY/UvzYR88pbcI/AAAAAAAA9cw/DWdQdLqZ5Ug/s1600/marauder-stick-dude-485x485.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 14, 2014, 08:46:22 PM
Blood axe nob for sure!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on February 14, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
Nice goofyness that orks should have.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2014, 08:14:07 AM
Are black tree design unreliable?

I vaguely remember Midaski maybe having a problem with them?

Might be wrong!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 22, 2014, 11:38:15 AM
Are black tree design unreliable?

I vaguely remember Midaski maybe having a problem with them?

Might be wrong!

I did, but that was about 4 years ago.
I have bought regularly off them since, and they have always delievered - usually within a couple of weeks.

They have a lightly strange set up  - the UK has a Cornwall address, but I think that the main office operation is based in Texas.
Some of the product is actually spun in Scotland as well.

My payments show on my cc card bill converted from dollars - which sometimes works to my advantage, sometimes not.

However it is best to buy from them when they have the right sales on.
If you sign up for their newsletter as a Premium member, you get an email each week detailing what ranges are on discount that week.
Usually a couple are on 35% and some others are on 25%

There are sometimes 50% and even 70% deals, and free postage , and money off next order vouchers.

If you buy at the right discounts over an extended period of time you can save a lot, against buying an 'army' all in one go.







Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 22, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
Fantastic, I'll sign up for that.

Only want their dwarves! But I was going to do installment army anyway. Planning to spend 30 a month, and then paint that each month.

There are loads of nice alternate dwarfs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 22, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
Tercio creativo offers good selection of characters http://http://www.terciocreativo.com/

for a reasonable price

(http://www.terciocreativo.com/tienda/images/Alguacil_Guardia_de_Ysbilia.jpg)
 8.5€
Thank you for posting that link!  They even have some rules for use with their figures, and I'm liking the figures as well. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 22, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
Meh. I dislike the horses. Will wait for the Perry Light Cavalry, methinks.
I agree.  The Fireforge horses for their mongols aren't to my liking, particularly the connection between the neck and the body.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 22, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Are black tree design unreliable?

I vaguely remember Midaski maybe having a problem with them?

Might be wrong!
I did, but that was about 4 years ago.
I have bought regularly off them since, and they have always delievered - usually within a couple of weeks.

They have a lightly strange set up  - the UK has a Cornwall address, but I think that the main office operation is based in Texas.
Some of the product is actually spun in Scotland as well.

My payments show on my cc card bill converted from dollars - which sometimes works to my advantage, sometimes not.

However it is best to buy from them when they have the right sales on.
If you sign up for their newsletter as a Premium member, you get an email each week detailing what ranges are on discount that week.
Usually a couple are on 35% and some others are on 25%

There are sometimes 50% and even 70% deals, and free postage , and money off next order vouchers.

If you buy at the right discounts over an extended period of time you can save a lot, against buying an 'army' all in one go.
I bought some of their 28mm WW2 Germans on sale 35% off middle of January and they came by middle of February, which I hear is normal for them currently.  My disappointment was when I bought a squad of the grenadiers (12 figures), I got 3 duplicates instead of all being different.  Going to follow that up with them and see what they say.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 23, 2014, 01:15:06 PM
I bought some of their 28mm WW2 Germans on sale 35% off middle of January and they came by middle of February, which I hear is normal for them currently.  My disappointment was when I bought a squad of the grenadiers (12 figures), I got 3 duplicates instead of all being different.  Going to follow that up with them and see what they say.

I have a suspicion that, despite 'head office' being in Texas, all the casting is don ein the UK, so you americans may have the extra time for transatlantic travel.
Certainly I understand the Harlequin ranges are cast in Scotland - by Grendel I think.

I also have some of their dwarfs, Finlay.

Because they have TWO options on Fantasy - their own and Harlequin which they acquired - you get different figure styles.
I like some of their figures and not others.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 25, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
Tercio creativo offers good selection of characters http://www.terciocreativo.com/

for a reasonable price

(http://www.terciocreativo.com/tienda/images/Alguacil_Guardia_de_Ysbilia.jpg)
 8.5€
 (http://[/url)
Thank you for posting that link!  They even have some rules for use with their figures, and I'm liking the figures as well. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::

That's what  this thread is for, right? :::cheers:::

and I have stumbled upon the painting blog of the painter, that painted the figs. : http://emusestudio.blogspot.com.es/ (http://emusestudio.blogspot.com.es/)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aSIUVjMowZk/UHRtA--u8vI/AAAAAAAAAXw/1fVLNAnDpeY/s320/Guillermo+Flamberga_1R02.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jie4WqFd8Yk/UPG2niT8ejI/AAAAAAAAAkM/-pS9H9hKOVw/s1600/Puyo_1M09.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dvhqhnoZQ2U/UOb-QHEQbmI/AAAAAAAAAjA/G7SjEcjNkS4/s320/Sargento+_1G08.jpg[de_1V03.jpg])

I particularly like this guy

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_PAUQgrR2Go/UidyceUQslI/AAAAAAAAA8c/kK7d5evTFlE/s1600/Musqueter_1V04.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on February 25, 2014, 04:19:10 PM
Some fantasitc miniatures with some fantastic painting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Krudenwald on February 26, 2014, 05:17:27 AM
Any reviews on Warlord's ECW/TYW minis? They look to be pretty well made, but I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who actually owns some of the models.

I've never dabbled in historicals before, but I'm really interested in some for a diorama!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on February 26, 2014, 07:16:27 AM
Really like that paint job. I like the more subtle highlights/color changes and the less exaggerated facial expressions than what most people use. Not sure if my point is clear, and its probably wrong, but just an opinion.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 01, 2014, 12:45:16 PM
Really like that paint job. I like the more subtle highlights/color changes and the less exaggerated facial expressions than what most people use. Not sure if my point is clear, and its probably wrong, but just an opinion.

It's quite clear to me and not wrong at all. Don't forget this kind of painting relies on a different approach. slowly and thoroughly concentrate on a one, single figure to achieve the maximum result. and he gets paid for it on top of it.

The Perry bros have new wips:

(http://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/foot_k_550.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9JahSxEwzZw/UxDfPWfHeVI/AAAAAAAAa90/ndBpQRotjdM/s1600/315835596b.jpg)

"......Foot Knights

This will be a box of 36(?...not sure yet!) foot knights or more acurately, dismounted Men at Arms. They will be all advancing/attacking in pose with seperate arms and heads as usual and will of course be able to be mixed with previous medievil boxes. There is no release date for these yet."
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 01, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
I think we're going to see a few of those appearing as Greatswords!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on March 01, 2014, 02:34:44 PM
I'm already using their metal ones and the few which come in the plastic infantry box for my Greatsword unit:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UOzTeTfa_QY/USr3xdffJeI/AAAAAAAAB6E/H-LMSCGskmg/s1600/IMG_6964.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 01, 2014, 03:04:00 PM
Omg those Perry greens are sick.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 01, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
Yes amazing sauce.

Why did GW mob them out again?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 01, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Yes amazing sauce.

Why did GW mob them out again?

They work for GW as the "Day Job"  on fantasy ............. and themselves at other times on historical.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on March 01, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Yes amazing sauce.

Why did GW mob them out again?
Not enough skullz?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on March 01, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
GW started to lose it when they forgot their Perry saves.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 01, 2014, 09:22:42 PM
 :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 01, 2014, 09:24:13 PM
 :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 01, 2014, 11:41:37 PM
Ive got a unit of metal and plastic ones. Great models and really easy to paint.
Those greens have been around for over a year.w even on thier website.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 02, 2014, 06:22:03 AM
Those Perry figures are great! I still haven't painted the metal ones I got.  :icon_redface:

For those who can't wait, or want more metals (they should all mix pretty well) you can still get...

"Dismounted Knights"
http://www.vexillia.ltd.uk/mirliton/shop28_humans.html

"Dismounted Men at Arms"
http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_1_WOR_Infantry.asp?startnum=9
(continued...) http://www.frontrank.com/lev4_4_2_1_WOR_Infantry.asp?startnum=17

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on March 02, 2014, 02:26:49 PM
I've mixed the Vexillia figures in with my unit of Perrys. Here they are by themselves:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zdz1iQO4rGE/USr5IpxH9VI/AAAAAAAAB6c/o3p3mSin9cY/s1600/IMG_6970.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Krudenwald on March 03, 2014, 05:53:39 AM
Any reviews on Warlord's ECW/TYW minis? They look to be pretty well made, but I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who actually owns some of the models.

I've never dabbled in historicals before, but I'm really interested in some for a diorama!

Shameless bump...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 03, 2014, 07:27:40 AM
Ive got some swedish infantry. They are ok. Nothing special, but look good as a block. Which is fine besauce that is how they need to be. Good value as well.
They are hybrid, plastic bodies and metal specifics to make them swedes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 03, 2014, 08:49:10 AM
Hmmm, makes me wonder whether I should rethink the human foot knights I had planned to do this year. Though mine would be a bit more bulky in line with old reiksguard on foot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 03, 2014, 10:09:59 AM
Hmmm, makes me wonder whether I should rethink the human foot knights I had planned to do this year. Though mine would be a bit more bulky in line with old reiksguard on foot.

which minis would you use? Front rank figurines seems the most close to the old reiksguard in size and style.

 I'm a bit worried about the quality of the metal casting,though,  the mold being old and used oftenly. Otherwise FR would by my first choice.( and maybe it will, it also being reasonably cheap btw.)

Perry knights on the other hand are superb, but they tend to be on the slim size of the 28mm.

@Arjunstc : great minis and an excellent paintjob. though tthe foot knights are also available on the Mirliton official site:

http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=dismounted-knights&cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans (http://www.mirliton.it/product_info.php?pName=dismounted-knights&cName=fantasy-2528mm-humans)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 03, 2014, 10:15:36 AM
Hmmm, makes me wonder whether I should rethink the human foot knights I had planned to do this year. Though mine would be a bit more bulky in line with old reiksguard on foot.

which minis would you use? Front rank figurines seems the most close to the old reiksguard in size and style.

 I'm a bit worried about the quality of the metal casting,though,  the mold being old and used oftenly. Otherwise FR would by my first choice.( and maybe it will, it also being reasonably cheap btw.)

He's talking about making his own range Darius - adding to his dwarfs, goblins, halflings, elves, zombies, .... 

- Hey hang on wasn't it: "Just going to do a few marauder-style dwarfs"


 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 03, 2014, 10:26:55 AM
Hmmm, makes me wonder whether I should rethink the human foot knights I had planned to do this year. Though mine would be a bit more bulky in line with old reiksguard on foot.

which minis would you use? Front rank figurines seems the most close to the old reiksguard in size and style.

 I'm a bit worried about the quality of the metal casting,though,  the mold being old and used oftenly. Otherwise FR would by my first choice.( and maybe it will, it also being reasonably cheap btw.)

He's talking about making his own range Darius - adding to his dwarfs, goblins, halflings, elves, zombies, .... 

- Hey hang on wasn't it: "Just going to do a few marauder-style dwarfs"


 :engel:

Well, in that case he doesn't need to crate the whole figs, just torsos and legs, because most of us have plenty of the extra hands with weapons of all kind and heads as well  ,  ffrom the original box of greatswords of that company.

It would make the set much cheaper to produce and sell.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 03, 2014, 11:05:07 AM
While I might entertain the idea to look if they can be released without arms, I would definitely do full versions too, as I want them to have full plate armour, including on the arms.

They would probably reflect the various knightly orders I've created for my dwarf range. Some human foot knights of the White Boar, Great Bear, Raven could be tasty.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 03, 2014, 11:07:14 AM
Hey hang on wasn't it: "Just going to do a few marauder-style dwarfs"

Guess I didn't realise how addictive it would be once I realised the possibility for every miniature I could possibly dream up to be called into existence was at my fingertips.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 03, 2014, 11:29:11 AM
Hey hang on wasn't it: "Just going to do a few marauder-style dwarfs"

Guess I didn't realise how addictive it would be once I realised the possibility for every miniature I could possibly dream up to be called into existence was at my fingertips.

Stop it ................... you're making me jealous.   :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on March 03, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
Any reviews on Warlord's ECW/TYW minis? They look to be pretty well made, but I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who actually owns some of the models.

I've never dabbled in historicals before, but I'm really interested in some for a diorama!

Shameless bump...

Well, because you bumped...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X4w4CktBOMU/UDzbSBHDA0I/AAAAAAAABRY/TwKBSTd7qIk/s1600/IMG_6709.JPG)

Size-wise they fit with the Perry figures. Poses are limited as the left arm is one-piece with the torso. There are enough weapon options though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 03, 2014, 02:07:07 PM
Nice pistoliers Arjunstc. :::cheers::: Warlord games make excelent figs.

While I might entertain the idea to look if they can be released without arms, I would definitely do full versions too, as I want them to have full plate armour, including on the arms.

They would probably reflect the various knightly orders I've created for my dwarf range. Some human foot knights of the White Boar, Great Bear, Raven could be tasty.

What would then be the selling price of one figure ? Or a set of 20?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 03, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
I'll have to decide that once I have a full view of the costs. Probably more expensive than the Perry ones though. Though they'll be metal and a closer match to the 90s classics in size and style.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on March 07, 2014, 05:30:34 PM
I'll have to decide that once I have a full view of the costs. Probably more expensive than the Perry ones though. Though they'll be metal and a closer match to the 90s classics in size and style.

As I have pretty much given up my hope for GW to ever produce really interesting minis again, I'm very interested. If your sculptor really manages to capture the sytle of GW from the 90s (Perry Twins!), then I'll be all over this! Have you considered some kind of crowd funding project to cover the costs early on?

PS.: I just hope the minis will have more realistic proportions than the Marauder Reiksguard knights for example (e.g. huge feet, hands and heads).

(http://www.solegends.com/marauder/newimages/c9421marmm65reiksguard-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on March 08, 2014, 11:06:29 AM
I'm thinking more along the lines of this era:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cz-V1PTRJaA/T297lXwn6II/AAAAAAAAAMQ/wkh8vJHhj7o/s1600/5186367442_c0dee88d32_o.jpg)

Sculptor would be the one who did the halfling bard and zombies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 08, 2014, 11:25:40 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cz-V1PTRJaA/T297lXwn6II/AAAAAAAAAMQ/wkh8vJHhj7o/s1600/5186367442_c0dee88d32_o.jpg)

I still think that is my favourite ever paint job of those knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on March 08, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
I'm thinking more along the lines of this era:

Sculptor would be the one who did the halfling bard and zombies.

Good! And you already mentioned you want to give them full plate armour - that's what I disliked a bit about some of those old perry sculpts: the unprotected legs, feet and buttocks ( :roll:).

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Krudenwald on March 10, 2014, 03:52:43 AM
I still think that is my favourite ever paint job of those knights.

^ +1.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 10, 2014, 08:18:36 AM
Black tree have 25% off dwarfs this week, plus ten % off for new customers foirst order.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 10, 2014, 05:09:08 PM
reaper minis have pictures of "murder of crows" "extra crows" but not "a lot of crows"

how am I meant to know which crows to buy if I cant compare "a lot of crows" with "murder of crows"?

how many crows is a lot?
how are they arrayed?

CROWTASTIC.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on March 10, 2014, 06:08:48 PM
reaper minis have pictures of "murder of crows" "extra crows" but not "a lot of crows"

how am I meant to know which crows to buy if I cant compare "a lot of crows" with "murder of crows"?

how many crows is a lot?
how are they arrayed?

CROWTASTIC.

This is the best post for days.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 10, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
A murder of crows is precisely two more crows Than a lot of crows.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 10, 2014, 11:27:16 PM
A murder of crows is precisely two more crows Than a lot of crows.

Not really worth crowing about then .....................  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 11, 2014, 09:53:51 AM
Yes, nothing to brood about.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 11, 2014, 01:44:22 PM
I bought some of their 28mm WW2 Germans on sale 35% off middle of January and they came by middle of February, which I hear is normal for them currently.  My disappointment was when I bought a squad of the grenadiers (12 figures), I got 3 duplicates instead of all being different.  Going to follow that up with them and see what they say.
I have a suspicion that, despite 'head office' being in Texas, all the casting is don ein the UK, so you americans may have the extra time for transatlantic travel.
I have the same suspicion.

Interestingly, they sell their squads of Germans in groups of 10 figures, so the 12 figures I rec'd were 2 extras.  Guess saying something to them about the duplicates might be more than I should've.  Oh well, didn't get a reply back either.  Such is life.  However, I do like what was received, and at some point need to get around to painting them.  Got a chance this past weekend to play the new Two Fat Lardie rules called "Chain of Command" and that was fun.  But now I'm digressing off the figures ... lol.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 11, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Any reviews on Warlord's ECW/TYW minis? They look to be pretty well made, but I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who actually owns some of the models.

I've never dabbled in historicals before, but I'm really interested in some for a diorama!
I recently purchased some of their 30YW Imperials.  I'm done constructing them and getting ready to start the painting soon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 12, 2014, 01:12:30 PM
Rather good looking dwarfyes by Runecast miniatures
http://www.pk-pro.de/index.php?k=394&lang=eng (http://www.pk-pro.de/index.php?k=394&lang=eng)
http://runecast-sculpts.blogspot.be/ (http://runecast-sculpts.blogspot.be/)


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--6Z1DG3LUYQ/UsljsZ04IWI/AAAAAAAABTs/ARiSaKs4-Q4/s1600/Bidenh%25C3%25A4nder+Schwertspieler+2+01.JPG)
(http://www.pk-pro.de/bilder/produkte/gross/RCM-0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 14, 2014, 03:26:21 PM
bird miniatures?

help?!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on March 14, 2014, 05:47:32 PM
bird miniatures?

What kind?  Size?  Scale?

Reaper Familiars (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/bird/sku-down/02969)

Black Cat Chickens (http://blackcatbases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=437_438&products_id=2669)

Black Cat Dodo (http://blackcatbases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=437_438&products_id=3158)

Warploque Death Kiwi (http://www.wampstore.com/store/miniatures/Warploque-Miniatures/warploque%20miniatures%20death%20kiwi)

Privateer Press Ravens (http://store.privateerpress.com/thewrackweightssprue.aspx)

Otherworld Lesser Familiars (http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/acc-series-accessories/acc3a-lesser-familiars-6/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 17, 2014, 05:26:51 PM
Thanks, I might use those chicken flocks. for the lols.

going to be Dark Eldar razorwings, which I do like, but are expensive.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440235a&prodId=prod1630054a
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 17, 2014, 08:46:29 PM
I ordered some dwarfs from Black Tree at midnight on thurs/fri, and they arrived today.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 19, 2014, 09:18:13 AM

A close up box and sprue + size comparison review of the new plastic Mountain Orcs discussed earlier.

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/shieldwolf-miniatures-plastic-mountain.html

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Hyhnl-C0THM/Ux9HxrKbMBI/AAAAAAAAblw/LIJw-0IKxio/s1600/IMG_8268.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on March 19, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
The heads are just wierd
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 20, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=189303&d=1394230577)

 :Ohmy:

With the Haste thing approaching and Avatars of War doing Empire...good times to start an Estalian styled army I guess.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 21, 2014, 09:39:27 PM
Haste?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on March 21, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
Haste (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=48421.0)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on March 21, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
Ah. Looks really good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on March 24, 2014, 07:10:39 PM
Just had an email off wayland, telling me my order is delayed as they are waiting product from the supplier.
this follows on from the battleline too- which I got about a week later than i expected.

They get stock on fridays, and it looks like GW aren't giving them what they want/need. Whitey said wayland had a bad rep but I've used them before and it's been perfect.


I also experience the same with total wargamer.


GW playing sillybuggers with the supply chain?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on March 24, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
Well their financial situation is so grand that they really don΄t need the retailers to increase their sales.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on March 26, 2014, 12:05:09 PM
Ogres need some kitchen help too.

(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ogress1paint1-350x350.jpg)

http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/ogres/og5-ogress/ (http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/shop/ogres/og5-ogress/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on April 03, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
Any idea where I can find 54mm (or larger) scale animals?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on April 03, 2014, 07:51:36 PM
The Zoo?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 03, 2014, 08:08:31 PM
What kind of animals? Andrea has a nice range of animals, but they are metal and expensive; http://www.milminwh.com/54mm_animals.htm#

You can also check out Safari Ltd http://safariltd.com/ usually available via eBay.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on April 03, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
I'm looking to replace the griffon on my war altar.  I've seen the Space Wolves Wolves of Wolven Wolfs with Wolfriders conversion, but the models aren't statuesque enough.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 09, 2014, 09:53:58 PM
Just spotted these being launched at Salute.

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/sizeimage.php?size=240&image=photos/arab box front small.jpg)

I have been surprised - this had totally avoided my radar.  :engel:

Quote
Released at SALUTE will be the new Arab Spearmen and Archers plastic box set.
Inside you will find parts to assemble 40 plastic Arab warriors. You can make a combination of up to 16 archers, 16 javelin men or 40 speamen. The box also contains extra parts to build some of your figures as horn blowers or swordsmen. Box also contains Renedra plastic bases for all your figures.
Available to pre-order for collection at SALUTE now!!
£22


(http://www.grippingbeast.com/photos/arab%20plastics%201a.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on April 10, 2014, 07:19:02 AM
wow! so far the only plastic arab kit I know off. I predict a few arab empire armies will come from this to.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 10, 2014, 10:58:04 AM
In this case you might need this wizard as well:

(http://cipher-studios.com/uploads/2014/03/Nasser-abd-er-Rahman.jpg)

http://cipher-studios.com/2014/03/the-maw-v-nasser-abd-er-rahman/nasser-abd-er-rahman/ (http://cipher-studios.com/2014/03/the-maw-v-nasser-abd-er-rahman/nasser-abd-er-rahman/)

..Heldorado will also produce a new knight figure:

(http://cipher-studios.com/uploads/2014/02/Ainma__Deadmoon_by_Wen_M.jpg)


http://cipher-studios.com/2014/02/the-maw-iv-michael-legatus/ainma__deadmoon_by_wen_m-2/ (http://cipher-studios.com/2014/02/the-maw-iv-michael-legatus/ainma__deadmoon_by_wen_m-2/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 10, 2014, 12:10:23 PM
Those Gripping Beast Arabs look good! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 10, 2014, 11:14:25 PM
Ooh those arabs look great. If only I had a reason to increase the size of my arabyan army. Hmm. Maybe the NPC in my Tilean campaign hired more of  them than (currently) have??
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 13, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
There are a few of us who like the Foundry Mercenary Orcs and Ogres - the puff and slash ones, and I found out yesterday at Salute that they have been busy repackaging them.
There was a half-hearted rebranding last year with some ORCPO88 and so on numbers in packs of 3 figures for the Orcs, which got abandoned.

Yesterday there were lots of single blisters of the Mercenary Orcs - some of the rare ones resurfacing as well - and they are simply listed by number now.
Mercenary Orc 25 for example is one with a spear in two hands.

Just tried the Foundry website and couldn't find them up there yet, and Marcus did say they had hurried out what was at Salute, and there were more to come - I think they went up to 39 yesterday.
I picked up 9 new ones I did not have before, and I think there are 8 left that I still need to get, and hopefully they have the moulds.

Not sure when this will happen as Foundry are moving premises so there will be disruption.

Might be worth keeping an eye on this site as well, as I am told some well known sculptors are collaborating on Ogres, Orcs, Orclings and Trolls

http://www.warmongermini.com/


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 13, 2014, 03:10:33 PM
Great news! I heard about the Salute-thing as well, and was hoping that was the first signs of the promised re-release. I just hope the dwarfs are not forgotten.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 13, 2014, 03:59:56 PM
great news, Mids, keep us updated, Some of us like merc orcs too.

hot shot from Salute, Perry foot knights

(http://lurkio.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/20140412-164158.jpg)

more pics here on this site:

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2014/04/the-big-salute-link-and-picture-report.html (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/2014/04/the-big-salute-link-and-picture-report.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 13, 2014, 05:47:01 PM
Any news on when those wallet-drainers will be out, Darius?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 14, 2014, 10:53:46 AM
Any news on when those wallet-drainers will be out, Darius?

Nah, I have no idea, but since they showed them on Salute, common sense tells me they will probably appear this year.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 25, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
I will use

(http://drachenshop.fcse.de/images/undead_invetigator_kopias.jpg)


This guy...as the Necromancer/Masternecromancer in my Vampire count army...got it delivered today :D love him already.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 25, 2014, 10:34:27 AM
That is weird.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 25, 2014, 10:36:14 AM
I like scibor, but its epxensive!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 25, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
I like my undead to be weird.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 25, 2014, 03:59:13 PM
I like my undead to be weird.

Fixed that for you.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on April 25, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
I don΄t like them as undead as you are for sure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on May 04, 2014, 05:06:34 PM
Anyone here know what's up with the plastic landsknecht kit? Haven't seen mention of it for a few months, now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 04, 2014, 09:39:08 PM
I think they are working to have all the figures sculpted prior to starting the KS so that it can have a shorter delivery time.  It is taking a bit longer than expected to get it all together.  Stephan (the owner) just posted this update over on LAF on April 27:

Quote
Hi all

I know, I was very quiet with news on the plastic Landsknechts, but don't worry: news and pictures of them very soon! At the moment, I am talking with the sculptor about the frame layout and all the content we can fit in the box. Will tell you more next week!

Stephan

Link to the thread: http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=56950.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on May 04, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
Cool. The last thing I need right now is more landsknechts, but I'm gonna get some anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 04, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
Ditto.  Also, keep in mind that Pro Gloria Miniatures is pretty much a one-man show so its good that they are taking it slow and not getting overwhelmed.  Hopefully when they launch the KS is it will be really successful because of it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on May 04, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
Unacceptable! I want Germans now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 08, 2014, 11:30:07 AM
The Assault Group previewed some cool characters for their Tudor Range. SHould work well for Empire and Estalia:

I like to call these Edmund Backstabber, Bald Rick and Lord Pershing.  :engel:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd01.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd02.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd03.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd04.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd05.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd06.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/NotBlaAdd07.jpg)

Queen Elisabeth and consorts:

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz01.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz02.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz03.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz04.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz05.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz06.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz07.jpg)

(http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/cms/uploads/LizNotLiz08.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 08, 2014, 01:06:37 PM
Lizzie doesn't look enough like Miranda Richardson to go with the first three, unfortunately :)

On another note; Miranda Richardson is a stone cold fox.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 08, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
I think Lizzie is based on another series.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 08, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
Perhaps the Cate Blanchet movie.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on May 08, 2014, 03:19:24 PM
Does anyone has a German manufacture to recommend? For WH fantasy
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 08, 2014, 03:29:06 PM
http://www.lead-adventure.com/ is always fun; I think they are German.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 08, 2014, 05:12:22 PM
Pro Gloria miniatures ! The best landsknecht figures anywhere. Think 6th edition GW state troops for style.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on May 08, 2014, 05:28:34 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 08, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
An example of the Pro Gloria stuff:


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5Ya9FwiC2hM/UWFm6RBEFDI/AAAAAAAAAFE/M_ZMjdXAfRw/s1600/1-DSC07987.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on May 08, 2014, 08:11:58 PM
Excellent paint job. Is it yours? The quality matches your other work, but not quite the style (at least not of your work I am aware of). 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 09, 2014, 05:32:47 AM
Not mine, no.  :-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on May 09, 2014, 10:58:13 AM
Pro Gloria miniatures ! The best landsknecht figures anywhere. Think 6th edition GW state troops for style.
Wow, they're really cool, and fit the 6th ed style nicely. No weapons though?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 09, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
They are openhanded to add weapons of your choice.

You could get some pikes/spears from Battlefield Berlin:

http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/85580-2-sonstiges.html (http://www.shop.battlefield-berlin.de/index.php/katalog/showarticles/85580-2-sonstiges.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 09, 2014, 11:19:09 AM
And you probably have a bunch of spare weapons from GW's multiple kits - just snip the hands off and attach at the wrist.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on May 09, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
or wait for their plastics to be released

Some greens/3-ups could be seen at Crisis:

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Crisis13_PG01.jpg)
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Crisis13_PG02.jpg)

Pictures from the Brόckenkopf news page.

yes you're right :) the following is not 100% certain to be made as renedra has the last words. in the box will be two different sprues (amount of sprues is not sure). one will contain 10 (!!) different bodies with options on pikes in different poses, swords and bucklers, halberds.
head options for swiss, german and middle-europe as well as diffetent swords for them and many feather options.
the command frame will include two bodies. one full harness the other semi-harness . options on banner. drum and many weapons.

questions? :)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 10, 2014, 05:24:03 PM

Those who might be interested in 28mm miniatures for Ind might like checking out this company ...

http://indusminiatures.mybigcommerce.com/

They have a decent range of figures, including elephants!

And they have a 20% off sale going on through May 18th 2014, the coupon code is "INDUS20".

Resistance was futile for me, bought 2 elephants, and one each of the mahout, drummer, standard bearer, spearman, handgun firing, handgun at ease, plus two archers firing.  That way I can interchange the riders as needed.  With the 20% off sale, the total was $44.40 and that included a $6 flat rate shipping here in the States. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on May 10, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
Resistance was futile for me

You like big tusks and you cannot lie.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warhammer-Weib on May 13, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/Warhammer-Weib/Glorin2_zps6f666ffd.jpg)

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/Warhammer-Weib/Glorin3_zps79a32c79.jpg)

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/Warhammer-Weib/Glorin4_zpsf67a60ec.jpg)

(http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/Warhammer-Weib/Glorin5_zpse2133d8b.jpg)


Glorin Miner, 28 mm, resin kit
Sculpted by Sergey Savenkov
Paintings by Max "Amon" Richiero
Tartar Miniatures
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on May 13, 2014, 08:41:55 PM
Resistance was futile for me

How Indfantile.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 31, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
A WIP shot of the new sculpts for the Pro-Gloria plastic landsknechts.  I am not sure why, but for technical reasons they had to re-sculpt the figures:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10364125_579430495507674_3199885826579567788_n.jpg)

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A bit more of a progress! There will be four more dollies, then all parts will be casted and then sleeves, armour, faces etc. will be added. Please note this not the actual pike-pole! The pike will be much slimmer in the future!

The Sculptor is Michael Anderson, known for the GW Empire sculpting work. The talented Paul Hicks is still doing our metal minaitures

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on June 01, 2014, 04:08:36 PM
A WIP shot of the new sculpts for the Pro-Gloria plastic landsknechts.  I am not sure why, but for technical reasons they had to re-sculpt the figures:
Ah good news!  :smile2:
Probably has to do with plastic miniatures from a same mold are smaller compared to resin or metal due to material shrinkage when cooling down. Although I think that depends on the type of plastic used.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on June 01, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
Oh ... I just found out, that Pro Gloria have been working on mounted knights (gendarms) as well for quite some time already! That could be great - the horses are on the small side though.

(https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/967078_394707100646682_2087060324_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on June 02, 2014, 03:31:02 PM
Probably has to do with plastic miniatures from a same mold are smaller compared to resin or metal due to material shrinkage when cooling down. Although I think that depends on the type of plastic used.

I don't think the size is the issue as they are sculpted at 3 times the normal size and then scaled down. If I'm to guess, I'd say they probably had undercuts that won't work with metal tooling.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 18, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
Update on the Pro-Gloria Landsknechts:

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Michael got the first castings of the body- and head dollies today. He immediately started sculpting on three of six new head dollies - and blimey, they are full of character, aren't they? From these new six head dollies on, he will add hair, beards, hats, etc.

(http://s7.directupload.net/images/140618/2mgwawjg.jpg)

These are all the parts which went to the caster plus some feathers and knives. From these dollies on, Michael will do much more further sculpting to create 12 different landsknechts for the first plastic set :)

(http://s14.directupload.net/images/140618/elbggmz9.jpg)

Stephan

Nice progress so far.  Looking forward to seeing them come together!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on June 18, 2014, 10:50:14 PM
Those are some mean faces. Looking good!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 20, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
Brother Vinni has some good looking Arabians that coudl be used for Araby ...

http://www.brother-vinni.com/rus/shop.htm#!/~/category/id=6199065&offset=0&sort=normal
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 02, 2014, 10:41:24 PM
First 3-up of the pro gloria landsknecht finished:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10441252_597652740352116_111033728637546826_n.jpg)

What a manly beard!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 03, 2014, 04:59:13 AM
New Empire on the horizon (maybe) and amazing new models.
 :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 03, 2014, 05:50:11 AM
The Pro Gloria stuff is looking exactly like the figures that GW could have and should have released, but didn't. Looks great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on July 03, 2014, 11:12:16 AM
That is the business! NEw Empire army in the new year i think, especially if new book as well.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 04, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
(http://cdn.hark.com/images/000/007/009/7009/original.0)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 04, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
First 3-up of the pro gloria landsknecht finished:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10441252_597652740352116_111033728637546826_n.jpg)

What a manly beard!  :happy:
Good stuff!  I'm imagining this is the way historical miniatures will be going. :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 04, 2014, 11:31:16 PM
It has been more than a decade since GW last released (human-) miniatures that looked as good as this does.

Edit: Oh and they are redoing the horses (making bigger ones)! Great news!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 05, 2014, 10:08:32 PM
In all fairness, GW's plastic greatswords are a lot like that prototype in sculpting/casting quality and aesthetics. Greatswords have some ridiculous swords and fantasy features, Pro Gloria's prototype is simpler and more restrained.

Add some comets and skulls and it could have been an empire soldier had they been sculpted in conjunction with the GS plastics, and not four years earlier by what I can only assume to be a chav who got paid in bacardi breezers instead of UK pounds.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on July 11, 2014, 05:14:53 AM
Gentlemen,

Time to vote ourselves a female with-hunter or a female warrior priest:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=789069091125370&set=a.263009273731357.67244.205953016103650&type=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 11, 2014, 07:35:47 AM
Vote Witch hunter, I'll be bringing out a female warrior priest with my sea elves (you can always file off the ears).  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 11, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
I voted witch hunter.  We should all vote witch hunter so we do not split our vote and lose to something else.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 11, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
In all fairness, GW's plastic greatswords are a lot like that prototype in sculpting/casting quality and aesthetics. Greatswords have some ridiculous swords and fantasy features, Pro Gloria's prototype is simpler and more restrained.

Add some comets and skulls and it could have been an empire soldier had they been sculpted in conjunction with the GS plastics, and not four years earlier by what I can only assume to be a chav who got paid in bacardi breezers instead of UK pounds.

This is probably because this is the same sculptor as the new GW greatswords (at least I am pretty sure Michael Anderson did the GS)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 11, 2014, 01:21:46 PM
In all fairness, GW's plastic greatswords are a lot like that prototype in sculpting/casting quality and aesthetics. Greatswords have some ridiculous swords and fantasy features, Pro Gloria's prototype is simpler and more restrained.

Add some comets and skulls and it could have been an empire soldier had they been sculpted in conjunction with the GS plastics, and not four years earlier by what I can only assume to be a chav who got paid in bacardi breezers instead of UK pounds.

GW's plastic greatswords and archers are rather good kits (worst part are the greatswords' arms and weapons). But they could be better ... it's the small details, that make the difference for me (like actually having eyes, wrinkles on the face, folds on the clothing, etc.) The GW CAD designs lack that or are a bit crude and too abstract.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 13, 2014, 03:04:14 PM
Vote Witch hunter, I'll be bringing out a female warrior priest with my sea elves (you can always file off the ears).  :engel:

I posted some pics of her now:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10550882_347763952054245_7207687903345936620_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10530827_347763968720910_2268648706311872255_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zak on July 13, 2014, 09:59:52 PM
 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 17, 2014, 11:36:51 AM
Kev White previewed this upcoming figure from Hasslefree Miniatures:

(https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10463895_1529246803961766_8706734796037482313_n.jpg)

 :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 17, 2014, 01:08:10 PM
Is it male or female - I'm confused - no boobs, yet face and hair, slim waist and tight shapely backside looks female  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on July 17, 2014, 01:29:33 PM
Must be female.  It's nice to see a female model without boob armor.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on July 17, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
The model does seem to have a codpiece; I would assume it is a male, but just a bit of a dandy. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 17, 2014, 02:24:58 PM
Half Elf enlisted for the Empire?

Ace Model!

MUST GET MORE GREATSWORDS!!!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 17, 2014, 02:53:55 PM
If I remember correctly, it is supposed to be a female from his facebook posting about this month's sculpts.

The photo looks amazing.  I have been wanting to order some hasslefree stuff for a while, this one might just tip me over the edge to do it.

WK, you should have Kev White do some of your humans, eh?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 17, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
It's a female with realistic breastplate. I've read somewhere the breastplates with boobs we all know and love in fantasy would most likely kill the wearer instead of save her.

Timbor, I did enquire once about a commisison with him for another project, but he doesn't take any at the moment and at any rate, I likely couldn't afford him anyway.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on July 17, 2014, 03:25:03 PM
It's a female with realistic breastplate. I've read somewhere the breastplates with boobs we all know and love in fantasy would most likely kill the wearer instead of save her.

I would say that it is 100% female, very nice model.   A nice captain or greatsword champion.



The problems with angle's in fantasy armour is something which is as much a problem in male models as female models though.  The boob plate would turn attacks in rather than out which would be a problem for the wearer.   Shoulder plates tend to have the same problem.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 17, 2014, 04:52:35 PM
Timbor, I did enquire once about a commisison with him for another project, but he doesn't take any at the moment and at any rate, I likely couldn't afford him anyway.

Well, just a few more overtime shifts and you should be good to go, right?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 18, 2014, 04:13:19 AM
On a less great news it seems that Defiance games is no more and with their last Kickstarter just tried to grab as much money as possible from investors before ending the business......
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 18, 2014, 08:06:59 AM
Well, to be honest, with all the negative publicity about them dating from long before the Kickstarter about taking people's money for product that didn't exist, it would have been surprising if it ended otherwise.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 18, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
Well, to be honest, with all the negative publicity about them dating from long before the Kickstarter about taking people's money for product that didn't exist, it would have been surprising if it ended otherwise.

This.  But do you have a link?  I see nothing on the KS page, and their website is still running (store perpetually closed for maintenance).  Was there a news release or something?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 18, 2014, 03:34:36 PM
There was some stuff back inJanuary where they were supposed to be making miniatures for a kickstarter for a new game "Torn Armor" and they got money but didn't deliver, and then could not find the cash to give back - even though their own kickstarter was still going .............

Cannot say I'd heard any buzzes lately - mind you after the bodge up of Wargames Factory and then starting up this, I haven't considered ever buying anything off them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 18, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
Yeah, I know about that whole debacle but had not heard anything recent about them 'officially' going under.  (Other than the fact their webstore has not been open for months and they have not made any posts online...)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 18, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=112998 (http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=112998)

Article on a German hobby site warning about the company. Facebook site is also down. The hobby site will also try to figure out if the persons involved try to go for a new company and warn people about those too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 18, 2014, 11:29:30 PM
Is it male or female - I'm confused.

Admitting to be confused is not politically correct.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 19, 2014, 04:48:48 AM
It's a female with realistic breastplate. I've read somewhere the breastplates with boobs we all know and love in fantasy would most likely kill the wearer instead of save her.

Maybe it's not ideal in terms of deflecting weapons trajectories, but if the wearer has mass (be it breasts or otherwise) it needs to be accommodated somehow. Armour for men with  large belly had to accommodate their physique, right?  Not trying to be a smart-ass, just realistic. I don't think I've found as much to criticize about women's fantasy armour that accommodates their physique so much as I can be critical of stupid armour that leaves a lot of it exposed.

That particular figure does look female, though. And that's something that doesn't always require huge beasts (in spite of most fantasy & sci-fi art...) and it's a credit too the sculptor they got that across. It's a nice sculpt.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on July 19, 2014, 12:34:49 PM
Maybe it's not ideal in terms of deflecting weapons trajectories, but if the wearer has mass (be it breasts or otherwise) it needs to be accommodated somehow. Armour for men with  large belly had to accommodate their physique, right?  Not trying to be a smart-ass, just realistic. I don't think I've found as much to criticize about women's fantasy armour that accommodates their physique so much as I can be critical of stupid armour that leaves a lot of it exposed.

In fact womens' fantasy armour that accommodates their physique is much more dangerous to them than the stupid armour that leaves a lot of it exposed.

There is indeed armour that is built for men of ample stature.   If you go to the collection of Prince Fredrick [I think] in the Hofburg in Vienna you will see a very fine example.   The structure of the armour doesn't change though, it is just wider.   Armour for fat men follow the same lines or structural design as armour for thin men.
Therefore the logical conclusion is that armour for a large breasted woman would look the same on the outside as armour for a small breasted women.   I would just be slightly wider.
Remember also that a very thick tunic was worn under the armour, the thickness of which could be padded [at the bottom for a large breasted woman or the top for a large bellied man] in order to fill out the armour [though that is just me conjecturing].   What I noted from the armour designed for fat men is that the design did not change to facilitate the belly.

The reason that the boob plate is more dangerous than the chain-mail bikini has a lot to do with weight.   Armour is a compromise between mobility and defense.   Wearing armour increases your defense against blows but compromises your mobility.   A woman wearing a chain mail bikini [if one was ever stupid enough to wear such a thing] would be nimble.   Women wearing the sort of leather slips that are more common than the chainmail bikini would be very nimble and the best defense against a blow is not to be their when it lands.

The boobplate on the other hand has all the disadvantages of full plate armour [in its weight, even if that weight is well distributed] and in the way it effects your ability.   It is not just that it is not idea in deflecting weapons trajectories it is horrific.   It turns all blows from the outside in rather than from the inside out and so concentrates the force of the attacks on the very area [between the breasts and neck] that you most want to protect.

Fighting with little or no armour is a viable style if you know what you are doing.   It is even more viable if you have a shield.   While the chainmail bikini is indeed stupid a leather bikini or a cloth bikini would be a perfectly viable armour choice for a warrior who was practiced in a very fluid, nimble style.   A boobplate is never a viable armour for anybody.

I wouldn't worry about it too much though.   Fantasy armour tends to be about what is cool, not what is practical.

(http://fancydresscostumes.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sauron-lord-of-the-rings.jpg)

This for example is a very bad suit of armour.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 19, 2014, 01:22:16 PM

(http://fancydresscostumes.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sauron-lord-of-the-rings.jpg)

This for example is a very bad suit of armour.

The armour was his least problem - he lost a finger and crumbled. What a wimp.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 19, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Most likely what Joan of Arc had as a piece of armour

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--4mPIzjG6--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/19cqphvl5l5nmpng.png)

Regarding the extra space I don΄t think that most women run around with double d silicone bazookas in ye olde world.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on July 19, 2014, 01:51:52 PM
Regarding the extra space I don΄t think that most women run around with double d silicone bazookas in ye olde world.

And not the sort that needed armour
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 22, 2014, 04:16:52 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10441252_597652740352116_111033728637546826_n.jpg)

About these Pro Gloria miniatures:

It was mentioned that they look kind of similar to some of GW's Empire plastics - and in my opinion they actually look better (because of the details etc.). I just read, that the sculptor of those minis is Michael Anderson, who also did most of the current Empire plastic infantry for GW.

So I'm wondering ... there must be someone at GW, who has the last word on miniature design and who tells the hired sculptors: "This is looking too good - make it look a bit worse." Why he would do that, I do not know, but that's the only attempt at an explanation I have to explain this discrepancy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 22, 2014, 04:20:38 PM
the only shitty models are the state troops. Did Mike anderson sculpt those?

anyway, the shittiness is down to design choice, not sculpting skill.

obviously they thought shoeless monkeys and slack jawed retards were a more fitting aesthetic than professional soldiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 22, 2014, 04:49:15 PM
While we all wanted the Pro Gloria look of "STATE....troopers."

Now redo the detachment system and I will get some 80 of those suckers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on July 22, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
New Avatars of War Humans.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad71/Calum_Campbell/10455264_10152593551940990_6914449877155594281_n_zps5e1131cd.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/Calum_Campbell/media/10455264_10152593551940990_6914449877155594281_n_zps5e1131cd.jpg.html)


(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad71/Calum_Campbell/10557234_10152593683035990_8642408146228543125_n_zpsfd19592b.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/Calum_Campbell/media/10557234_10152593683035990_8642408146228543125_n_zpsfd19592b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 22, 2014, 05:42:23 PM
the only shitty models are the state troops. Did Mike anderson sculpt those?

I don't know. Looking at those Pro Gloria minis leads me to believe that he did the Greatswords and Archers (which are the good infantry kits - the flaggelants are also rather bad in my opinion.).

Quote
anyway, the shittiness is down to design choice, not sculpting skill.

That's what I'm saying. Who is is responsible for those decisions? He needs new glasses I think.

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obviously they thought shoeless monkeys and slack jawed retards were a more fitting aesthetic than professional soldiers.

 :-D  Don't forget the awkward pose, which is my biggest complain with those models. But who cares, when those Pro Gloria Minis are on the horizon!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 22, 2014, 06:59:34 PM
Hey, I love the flagellants! (ridiculously huge weapons aside)

Can't wait for the Pro Gloria stuff to be released.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 23, 2014, 12:56:50 PM
Some photos of upcoming Perry dismounted men at arms:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10534673_539425399512904_8184742960789057346_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10548869_539425486179562_3901946884835393324_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on July 23, 2014, 01:06:33 PM
Risking not knowing what I am talking about... I like them. Lots of poses...different weapons. Whats the price?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on July 23, 2014, 02:46:08 PM
Box of 38 for £20-£25. The normal foot infantry are 40 for £20. Very affordable and very nice.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 23, 2014, 02:48:50 PM
they look ace
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on July 23, 2014, 03:09:04 PM
Greatswords that look like Greakswords.  Yep I likes the look of them :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on July 23, 2014, 04:58:52 PM
People with full plate that actually look like they have full plate? Whut?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 23, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
In addition to the plastic GS from Perry, an update on the Pro Gloria Landsknechts:

Quote from: Pro Gloria
For the plastics, these feathers will all stay the same but I am sure that we will have some metal feathers seperately :)

2nd Landsknecht ist finished, new 3 UPs every three days or so from now on!

(https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10428698_609903925793664_6154937448543312226_n.jpg)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 23, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
AAaaaaaaaamazing!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 23, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
My goodness! This is fantastic!  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 23, 2014, 08:34:26 PM
tachetastic!

so I know where my next empire is coming from. Hopefully the next book doesn't slurp the sweat of a donkey riders back after he's been humping manure around all day.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 24, 2014, 02:14:31 PM
In light of those plastic footknights, is it worth mentioning I have a sculptor working on (metal) foot knights as well, with different knightly orders planned?  :engel:

Basically, they will be non-zombie versions of this one (same sculptor):

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/1924323_343516555812318_2708866102228956780_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 24, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
Definitely worth mentioning!  :biggriin:

I would plan to use the perry stuff as conversion fordder for GoT themed units.  I would use your stuff for warhammer-esque fantasy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 25, 2014, 09:00:55 AM
True, the Perry range is a bit slim to put alongside heroic scale GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 25, 2014, 09:23:01 AM
Works fine for separate units in army, just not great for merging.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on July 26, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Any experience with Black Scorpion Miniatures?  Looking at info on quality and shipping, etc. specifically.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 26, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
I looked at their stuff and chatted to them at a show. Quality looked good to me. Obviously no clue on shipping!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 27, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Any experience with Black Scorpion Miniatures?  Looking at info on quality and shipping, etc. specifically.

Great quality and quick to ship in my experience, got a couple of small orders from them and never been dissapointed
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 27, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
Which part of your collection, my good Uryens, came from said source?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Uryens de Crux on July 27, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Good question haha

I have a couple that are just figures I got to paint so not wargaming ones

I'm fairly sure you have one of their goblin pirates
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 29, 2014, 11:06:25 AM
Gentlemen,

Time to vote ourselves a female with-hunter or a female warrior priest:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=789069091125370&set=a.263009273731357.67244.205953016103650&type=1
I'd have voted for female witch hunter, if it was being done on facebook, and suspect there are other more inclusive ways to do this than that.  Then again maybe I'm just missing the boat. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 29, 2014, 11:16:22 AM
People with full plate that actually look like they have full plate? Whut?
Its because they are made for historical gaming, the Wars of the Roses. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 29, 2014, 12:19:43 PM
People with full plate that actually look like they have full plate? Whut?
Its because they are made for historical gaming, the Wars of the Roses. :icon_wink:

That almost sounds as if you were making excuses on behalf of GW for their overprized medium (between light and heavy) armour greatswords.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 30, 2014, 10:04:10 AM
(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/PG_Landsk3.jpg)

And yet another Pro Gloria Landsknecht....

Liked the other two better this one looks like he has a huuuuuge head..still god but by far the least favourite.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: wissenlander on July 30, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
Little bit of the Great Gazoo going on...

(http://i60.tinypic.com/spj4hz.png)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 30, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
lmao wiss!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 30, 2014, 06:07:37 PM
I wonder why they would put such crests on a helmet. Wouldn't they catch blades and increase the hurt for the wearer, snapping his head about?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on July 30, 2014, 08:58:53 PM
The more I look at it, the more I like the rest of it.  The head/face itself does not seem overly large, just the helmet makes it look bigger, which, I guess is normal for a helmet.  The text associated with the picture:

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Michael Anderson did it again! The 3rd landsknecht is finished - this time with a special helmet which became quite common through the first half of the 16th century: The "Sturmhaube" (Burgonet). This pair of arms has some heavy cover in terms of bracers which were for more wealthy soldiers because of the high price and the tailor-made fit. Michael is working on the 4th landsknechts and I am pretty sure you will see results within this week!

Please keep in mind that arms, heads and bodies are seperate pieces so you will get quite vast variation possibilites.

I guess if you don't like that head, you can always not use it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on July 30, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
I wonder why they would put such crests on a helmet. Wouldn't they catch blades and increase the hurt for the wearer, snapping his head about?

That's what I was also wondering...

I'm no expert, but those crests seem impractical both in action and for maintenance.
The one in the middle probably has some function in the integrity of the helmet, but those two lateral crests seem to have no function.

Perhaps it was fashion, just like the puff-and-slash clothing?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on July 31, 2014, 07:17:11 AM
The real world often being stranger than fiction I guess the additional crests are liberty of the sculptor
(http://www.outfit4events.com/runtime/cache/images/productFull/mib_0355.jpg)

but there are some very decorative ones.

(http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/aa/web-large/170543.jpg)

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf-2/452233/Burgonet-1550.jpg)

(https://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2009/armor/images/armor_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 31, 2014, 07:35:21 AM
I doubt the decorative ones were intended for use in actual, deadly battle. Parades etc, oh yeah!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on July 31, 2014, 07:48:52 AM
No, the triple-crested burgonet was very much a real thing.

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/00/0c/bb/000cbb6dc1bb3fcbf2837f7335cd9d1a.jpg)

Still, the figure does look somewhat bobbleheaded.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 31, 2014, 07:52:14 AM
The quadruple crested ones were better imho. To be more accurate they were one better.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 31, 2014, 10:22:25 AM
are the crested burgonet's crests decorative, or practical?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on July 31, 2014, 10:46:54 AM
Practical - added protection against blows of swords.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 31, 2014, 10:55:59 AM
With the crenellations (for lack of the correct word) designed to catch the blade?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on July 31, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
Not sure - those may have been decorative only.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 31, 2014, 11:03:15 AM
it's a shame they havent managed to convert that cool looking helmet to a good looking mini.
well, the body is fine just a dodgy head. Good job I'll be able to use a different head.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 31, 2014, 11:06:32 AM
Practical - added protection against blows of swords.

I think so too. I assume these things would distribute the force of a blow over a wider area, preventing a dangerous dent in one place.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 31, 2014, 11:17:45 AM
No, the triple-crested burgonet was very much a real thing.

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/00/0c/bb/000cbb6dc1bb3fcbf2837f7335cd9d1a.jpg)

Still, the figure does look somewhat bobbleheaded.

Agreed. Here are two more helmets, whose design seem to have influence the sculptor.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjMyrq6mOreqy0M5mdBLU8pn5hepHI2LHtxX6D7MNM96aOkHE6kg)

(https://img0.etsystatic.com/020/0/7006739/il_570xN.491682390_rex2.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on July 31, 2014, 10:28:06 PM
Have the guys from Pro gloria said anything about the price of these miniatures?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Donnachaidh on August 01, 2014, 12:38:38 PM
It's a female with realistic breastplate. I've read somewhere the breastplates with boobs we all know and love in fantasy would most likely kill the wearer instead of save her.

Maybe it's not ideal in terms of deflecting weapons trajectories, but if the wearer has mass (be it breasts or otherwise) it needs to be accommodated somehow. Armour for men with  large belly had to accommodate their physique, right?  Not trying to be a smart-ass, just realistic. I don't think I've found as much to criticize about women's fantasy armour that accommodates their physique so much as I can be critical of stupid armour that leaves a lot of it exposed.

That particular figure does look female, though. And that's something that doesn't always require huge beasts (in spite of most fantasy & sci-fi art...) and it's a credit too the sculptor they got that across. It's a nice sculpt.

just as an addition, this is my mate Sandy.

She is athletic - runs, swims and fights a lot.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3856/14461432529_a91185b4d6_c.jpg)

You need to be athletic to fight in that lot. Athletic normally means smaller breasts.

Last year she outlasted most of us fighting in 30+ degrees centigrade of heat.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 01, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
Great picture!

Looks right out of a movie.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 02, 2014, 02:05:23 AM
This is not entirely Empire related, but today I received a traditional paper advertisement in the mail for this...

http://www.johnnyborgcastings.com/complete-set-of-80/road-kill-corpses-complete-set-of-80/

...and was a bit amused.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 02, 2014, 12:51:16 PM
Awesome picture, Donnachaidh! Is that a warhammer she's holding?

Also, that Hasslefree Greatsword is excellent. Kev White surely makes some gorgeous stuff. I want to buy that mini and paint it pink, just because.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 02, 2014, 01:41:47 PM
Some kind of polearm, methinks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 02, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
Poor Poles.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 04, 2014, 05:20:37 PM
Hi all!

Stephan here from Pro Gloria Miniatures -White Knight sent me! I really want to say a big thank you to all your nice comments! here are the latest news:

Michael Anderson (yes, he done the Great Swords, Island of Blood, and many more for GW!) has finished the 4th Landsknecht now (or almost! Just some more puffy clothign within the slashes need to be sculpted!)

If you have any questions, feel free to ask anytime! I will 100% reply to them!  :mellow:

(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140804/4grle85h.jpg)

All the best

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 04, 2014, 05:25:03 PM
Gs and IoB models are ace. This bloke should clearly be sculpting everything for GW!

then again, he can do stuff for you and we can buy it cheaper :D

the 4th landsknecht is, as expected, ace.


only criticism is the size of the guy's helmet!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on August 04, 2014, 06:07:56 PM
Awesome! This just keeps getting better and better...

I have a question.
Although it's too early to ask for the price, do you have any plans about the contents of the box?
How many miniatures are you planning to squeeze in?

Also, you already have at least one eager customer.   :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 04, 2014, 06:36:21 PM
Thank you guys!

@Silver Wolf: I can't give any detail about the price (but in the region between 16€ - 20€). But I can tell you something about the content of the box :)
It will include 24 miniatures. 2 x 10-men frame plus 2 x 2-men command frame. In the rank and file frame you will have options to 20 - 30 different heads, including soem spare hats and feathers. There will be arm pairs for front and second rank pikes. if all goes well (this means, that there is enough spare room n the frame!) there will be options for all soldiers on swords and bucklers, spears and maybe some single great swords for first ranks.
The command frame will include one full Maximilian Style armour and one half-armour. Options beside standard bearers and different instruments for musicians will be given as well as options on maces, warhammers, axes, swords and great swords. Also some single arms for command poses and pointing etc.

In the set will be a rather small leaflet (around 20 pages) full of historical background, assembling guides and painting guides. On a single sheet made of light paper, there will be some flags (around 4 - 8 different ones for germans, swiss, french and italians).

No bases will be included as I find that most gamers do bin their bases or do not use them at all. So I can leave them away and keep the price a bit down in that way.

@Finlay: Thanks for your comment and your kind critic!  :happy: You are right on the size of the helmet: it's huge! In reality, the helmets were actually that big. They were the next generation of the "Hirnhaube" (Cervelliere) and had to protect the entire helmet but without taking away the owner's sight. because of that, the visor had to be longer so it could still catch the nasty sword blows in the hand to handcombat. The crests were addes as well to keep away the swords blows.

As our miniatures are hero scale like and not true scale (our miniatures anatomy is simply not correct but appeal nice to the eyes) the heads are quiet big and already too huge for the smaller torsos. Because of that, it's no wonder that the helmet (which is big!) makes the head even look bigger  :biggriin: I will guarantee that this head will not stay out on the battlefield and will look quiet cool! If you do not think so, you can use the other heads in the box - there will be plenty!

Thanks a lot guys,

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mogsam on August 04, 2014, 06:43:57 PM
It's really nice to see a manufacturer actually take the time to be positive on a forum that isn't there own.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on August 04, 2014, 07:32:53 PM
I would be happy to post in a manufacturer forum if that what takes to be heard.

+1 if inside my budge I will take a box for your trouble of posting here.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 04, 2014, 10:01:19 PM


@Silver Wolf: I can't give any detail about the price (but in the region between 16€ - 20€). But I can tell you something about the content of the box :)
It will include 24 miniatures. 2 x 10-men frame plus 2 x 2-men command frame. In the rank and file frame you will have options to 20 - 30 different heads, including soem spare hats and feathers. There will be arm pairs for front and second rank pikes. if all goes well (this means, that there is enough spare room n the frame!) there will be options for all soldiers on swords and bucklers, spears and maybe some single great swords for first ranks.
The command frame will include one full Maximilian Style armour and one half-armour. Options beside standard bearers and different instruments for musicians will be given as well as options on maces, warhammers, axes, swords and great swords. Also some single arms for command poses and pointing etc.


That sounds fantastic!

I assume most miniatures won't have much armour. I'm just throwing in an idea here: selling (upgrade-) packs of armoured torsos (or even some legs with the appropriate armour) could potentially sell quite nice as well. Alternatively, also offering the command sprues for seperate purchase, like the Perry twins do, would be nice. Just something to consider.

And a question: Is there any news on the Gendarms? (Good decision to make new and bigger horses by the way)


Wόnsche euch viel Erfolg mit eurer Kampagne! Ich freue mich schon drauf.  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on August 05, 2014, 09:40:41 AM
damnit damnit damnit!
I don't need more landsknechts (still haven't finished all the perry's men at arms) but these are simply to good to resist!  I must buy these! please wait untill I have found employment before you release these :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 05, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
Thanks again for the comments!  :biggriin:

Quote
I assume most miniatures won't have much armour. I'm just throwing in an idea here: selling (upgrade-) packs of armoured torsos (or even some legs with the appropriate armour) could potentially sell quite nice as well. Alternatively, also offering the command sprues for seperate purchase, like the Perry twins do, would be nice. Just something to consider.

And a question: Is there any news on the Gendarms? (Good decision to make new and bigger horses by the way)

The ratio on the main frame will be: 5 unarmoured, 4 with front plate torso armour and 1 with a vest (4th Landsknecht already featured). I will have the 2 men command frame available seperately for sure because I just like the idea of it :)
The next sets will be plastic Doppelsφldner (Empire greatswords *cough*) including options for greatswords, halberds etc. After there will be skirmisher or line shooting infantry with options on arkebuse, crossbows and maybe bows. Short after some plastic commanders if all goes well and the Kickstarter/indiegogo campaign will be successfull.

The gendarms are again kicked off the screen  :dry: I had three sculptors for the riders and all jumped off or did not please me so that  I would release the miniatures. I think they will quite take their time and maybe the plastic ones will be released earlier  :biggriin:

Quote
I don't need more landsknechts (still haven't finished all the perry's men at arms) but these are simply to good to resist!  I must buy these! please wait untill I have found employment before you release these :)

Oh, you can never have enough of these rogues!  :happy:

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on August 05, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
You mentioned that they will be 28mm Heroic. Does this mean that they will be slightly larger than your previous stuff? I already own Emperor Maximilian and have been tempted to buy the metal landsknechts; would be sad if they don't mix well with the plastics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 05, 2014, 06:37:23 PM
Stefan
Fabulous figures and you can see the GW legacy from the sculptor inthe head of the leftmost figure in the group shot. Straight out of the Edition 6 plastic Soldiers of the Empire box.

For those of us with 'modest' existing collections, will you be able to show how these figures will stand alongside other existing manufacturers.
I am thinking of course about the ones I have like Artizan and Foundry.

We have a miniatures comparison thread stickied at the top of the Brush and Pallette board, and there are some useful photos in there.
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=6724.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 05, 2014, 06:45:52 PM
@Akbar: Michael took the exact scales of our metal miniatures and after the 3-UPs are made smaller again in the steel moulds for the plastic spinning they will exactly fit with our metal miniatures. No mm more or less  :smile2:

(http://s14.directupload.net/images/140805/l8lpbuq6.jpg)

@Midaski: I think there are already some on the net. I sold most of my Foundry and Artizan Landsknechts so can't give you any pictures but with Foundry they do mix 1:1 while Artizan is just a bit more bulkier.

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/matheo_sXe/Pro%20Gloria/Progloria_comparison_1.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/matheo_sXe/Pro%20Gloria/Progloria_comparison_2.jpg)

(2nd guy from the left is Foundry not PGM)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/Steelhand/PG_comp2_zps10cacab7.jpg)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 05, 2014, 08:17:45 PM

The gendarms are again kicked off the screen  :dry: I had three sculptors for the riders and all jumped off or did not please me so that  I would release the miniatures. I think they will quite take their time and maybe the plastic ones will be released earlier  :biggriin:


What a shame. But I fully agree with your decision - make it right or leave it be. You should ask the Perry twins if they are interested in sculpting some gendarms for you. I heard they are quite good and have done some before.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 06, 2014, 09:11:18 AM
One of my favourite size comparisons for Pro Gloria and Foundry is this one. Gorgeous brushwork. :Ohmy:

Left to right: Pro Gloria - Foundry - Pro Gloria - Foundry
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_4Ss_YPjP7g/UbdpBUlC3UI/AAAAAAAAAPw/3U0Im7IHkWA/s640/1-DSC08719-001.JPG)

More eyecandy on his blog:
http://xulutec.blogspot.be/search/label/Landsknechte (http://xulutec.blogspot.be/search/label/Landsknechte)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 06, 2014, 11:58:21 AM
I am guessing then that the plastic figures will be a match to their metals - as that seems to be what everyone is showing me.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on August 06, 2014, 02:28:29 PM
I am guessing then that the plastic figures will be a match to their metals - as that seems to be what everyone is showing me.  :engel:

Or you could like, you know, read Stephan's answer on that...   :engel:

Michael took the exact scales of our metal miniatures and after the 3-UPs are made smaller again in the steel moulds for the plastic spinning they will exactly fit with our metal miniatures. No mm more or less  :smile2:

(http://s14.directupload.net/images/140805/l8lpbuq6.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 06, 2014, 03:52:55 PM
Read - you want me to read  :icon_rolleyes:

At my age I have enough trouble breathing ............  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 06, 2014, 06:36:21 PM
One exclusive WIP shot for you! Number 5th will be finished tomorrow and number six should be finished this week!

(http://s14.directupload.net/images/140806/ibzs4c58.jpg)

(http://s1.directupload.net/images/140806/2f923imu.jpg)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on August 06, 2014, 10:06:09 PM
Very nice, as usual.
These will mix really well with the rest of the models on the market.

So you said that your goal is 10 3-up figures before the kickstarter?  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 07, 2014, 06:39:52 AM
@Silver Wolf: The Plastic box will be finished until the KS :) Around 35 working days till the box is finished.  :mellow: Ten regular rank & file 3 UPs plus 2 command frame 3 UPs.

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on August 07, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
That is a lovely beard. Will there also be faces without beards or with just moustaches?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 07, 2014, 11:48:57 AM
Most of them are going to have beards  and moustaches but some (3 - 5ish) will have no beard to represent young soldiers :)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 08, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
Lovely!  :::cheers:::


In other news: The Perry Man at Arms are up for Pre-Order https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?products_id=3148&osCsid=schq363j4ir2oulj4hffsebea7
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 10, 2014, 07:44:04 PM
The Hasslefree Female Greatsword is available to buy as a resin master:

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=resin-master-%252d-maika-von-ostwald~hfmaster-h094&category=miniatures~*resin-masters*

Maika von Ostwald

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/H094%20Maika%20von%20Ostwald%20composite.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on August 11, 2014, 10:21:11 PM
From the Pro Gloria FB page:

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10606485_619572121493511_336830163442180728_n.jpg)

Quote
Number six is almost finished! This time with some big sleeves as they were common since the 1515 - 1550. The head on the right is a bit of a special one: he is wearing a hairnet! You can see these on many Dόrer pictures and other contemporary paintings. I hope you like!

Nice, so 4 more poses to sculpt and then finish off the bits, send it to tooling.  Great progress!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 11, 2014, 10:31:02 PM
Awe inspiring.... :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 12, 2014, 12:23:34 AM
A hairnet?  Haven't seen that before ... might make a good wizard head though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 12, 2014, 07:19:39 AM
Thanks for the comments!

@Victor: you are right. A hairnet is really special and uncommon. It wasn't mostly worn during battles but during camplife or guard duty or while the civilian life for those with too long hair. You can see it on many Dόrer pictures and other paintings, too :)

(http://www.kingsacademy.com/mhodges/11_Western-Art/15_Northern-Renaissance/Duerer/Duerer_1498-1504_The-Paumgaertner-Alterpiece.jpg)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 12, 2014, 01:48:50 PM
I have actually seen that painting before, but never noticed that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 12, 2014, 02:30:38 PM
Here (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=47520.msg879120#msg879120) is one of Frederik Untermensch, Grand Duke of Talabheim (picture 3). 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 12, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
See W-E is even educational ....................   8-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 15, 2014, 03:59:55 PM
Some more heads :x

(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/l/t1.0-9/s720x720/10565244_621372104646846_5514534751742196154_n.png)


Michael is currently working on the dollies for the sword arms and the up-right pikes.

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 16, 2014, 10:32:56 PM
Some more heads :x

(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/l/t1.0-9/s720x720/10565244_621372104646846_5514534751742196154_n.png)


Michael is currently working on the dollies for the sword arms and the up-right pikes.

Stephan

Looking great! I'm tempted to say that the helmet looks very old fashioned and almost outdated - like something that was used during the hundred years war - but I'm sure you have a historical reference picture up your sleave, ready to point out that I'm wrong, so I'm not going to say it.  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Your Mother on August 17, 2014, 12:24:17 PM
That is very much a historical helmet for the period.
Here's one example from the Wallace collection.


(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p563/livolsiv/eMuseumPlus_zpsc126bfe5.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/livolsiv/media/eMuseumPlus_zpsc126bfe5.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on August 17, 2014, 07:14:35 PM
Yep, that's the one that Michael had in mind while sculpting the helmet  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 29, 2014, 06:02:53 AM
There be Space Marine alternatives.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DF_Valkir-Heavy-Troopers-1.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DF_Valkir-Heavy-Troopers-14.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DF_Valkir-Heavy-Troopers-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 29, 2014, 07:03:21 AM
Who from?

Look more like storm troopers than sm, but I like them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on August 29, 2014, 07:23:24 AM
Dreamforge games.

http://dreamforge-games.com/collections/all (http://dreamforge-games.com/collections/all)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 29, 2014, 01:55:13 PM
No 'Pro Gloria' update for 2 weeks now.   :icon_confused:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on September 03, 2014, 05:03:29 PM
Latest update:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10459039_634989786618411_7166371504660096824_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 03, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
Left head seems to big...might be the picture.

Middle one is perfect!!

right one...hmmm not too keen on the chest nor the head.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on September 03, 2014, 06:32:06 PM
Lovely stuff. The sculptor explained on the facebook page that the 'big head' is due to the angle of the photo, and posted these pictures:
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10557262_10152298289901440_7575802697690663661_n.jpg?oh=083ad3b4a0c5190710be39a5c4940221&oe=5462FC97)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/13982_10152298289701440_3756850534688678253_n.jpg?oh=86169a34181b5b2ec832f487917758a1&oe=547EEC2E&__gda__=1416451065_f5714d75e5c3dd29f40b74e09e97bfdd)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 03, 2014, 06:35:27 PM
So they don΄t have giant heads!

Great stuff happening...glad I didn΄t buy a single 8th edition state trooper.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on September 03, 2014, 07:59:32 PM
every single one is great :D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 06, 2014, 11:05:54 AM

@Pro Gloria Miniatures, question: Will the new landsknechts also have the option of having greatswords as weapons, because that would attract even more customers. something like these guys:(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fFzt04vvfW0/UqWnpzKLnxI/AAAAAAAAA3I/AwRMHn7G_CE/s1600/oldEd.JPG)

Titan forge has released these 10-5 pack space murines, and tehy look excellent and the price is even better.

(http://www.titan-forge.com/images/Sklep/prods/182/592.jpg)


http://www.titan-forge.com/sci-fi_miniatures_x-terra_space_force_terra_guardians_Unit_-10- (http://www.titan-forge.com/sci-fi_miniatures_x-terra_space_force_terra_guardians_Unit_-10-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: zifnab0 on September 06, 2014, 07:30:41 PM
Titan forge has released these 10-5 pack space murines, and tehy look excellent and the price is even better.

Those look like actual marines.

Spess Mehrens are supposed to look like robots.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on September 07, 2014, 10:28:51 AM
Does anyone have any familiarity with Otherworld Miniatures, shipping and scale-wise? I really like some of their Cleric figures for Warrior and some of the Hired swords for Mordheim.

http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 08, 2014, 02:29:05 AM
I bought the female cleric from (I think it was) Wayland Games.

A bit smaller than GW figures. I don't have any GW Empire figures, but I based it on a 20mm square base, so you can shrink the pic and see how big it is.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lEgxluBg0jI/U_DA-iFo-HI/AAAAAAAAC98/C5A75w1SFUY/s1600/IMG_8851.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on September 08, 2014, 10:34:24 AM
Hey, arjunstc Great mini! That's the exact model I was looking at buying; the scale shouldn't be an issue as the vast majority of my collection is Perry Miniatures too; with some Kingmaker Hussites and Fireforge models thrown in.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on September 08, 2014, 02:06:23 PM
Thanks for your kind words :) And yes, two-weeks no update because of the holidays from the sculptor :(

@Heads: They will have the exact same as our metal landsknechts. To judge 3 UPs is really difficult. You should always wait to see the finsihed miniature in true scale  :blush: But as said, I promise you that sizewise you won't see any difference between our plastics and metal miniatures. Once the tenth Landsknecht is finished (mid-week) I can show a group picture with all ten rank and file. michael will then sculpt ten upright arms plus around 14 new heads. Then he#s up for the command (you will love this for sure!)

@Greatswords: We will have a second box just after the kickstarter (Michael Anderson will immediately start working on the second box after the first box) which will contain many fighting posed with greatswords, hammers, more halberds, swords etc.

Here is Landsknecht Number 9. The visor is attachable and you do not have to use it. More common headwear soon.

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10686815_639314869519236_5022961951305694245_n.jpg?oh=9ace28c499ffd141eda3f4f2a245695e&oe=54A279EC)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on September 08, 2014, 03:00:57 PM
That's the exact model I was looking at buying; the scale shouldn't be an issue as the vast majority of my collection is Perry Miniatures too; with some Kingmaker Hussites and Fireforge models thrown in.

Get out!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VL3oB55G7_0/U_DBn4hjowI/AAAAAAAAC-Q/KgrDG35ZoHI/s1600/IMG_8850.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on September 08, 2014, 07:44:31 PM
Very Nice, fits in well with the unit. I've just finished painting 24 of the Hussite Halberdiers as a detachment for my Greatswords. Will definitely look into sorting an order out from otherworld at some point.

Also the landsknechts  are looking brilliant; I'll have to work more pikes into my army somewhere!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warhammer-Weib on September 15, 2014, 03:50:33 PM
El Soupolai, sculpted by Valentin Zak:

http://ammon-miniatures.com/shop/el-soupolai/ (http://ammon-miniatures.com/shop/el-soupolai/)

I'd love to paint this mini!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 15, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
El Soupolai, sculpted by Valentin Zak:

http://ammon-miniatures.com/shop/el-soupolai/ (http://ammon-miniatures.com/shop/el-soupolai/)

I'd love to paint this mini!  :happy:


Thank you for reminding me of that company! I forgot I wanted to pick up a few of their minis. Now if I can remember who was selling them in the US...

Edit: It was Fantization, but it appears they are no longer selling them.  :-(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on September 25, 2014, 06:04:18 PM
Time for an update again  :smile2: This time the first miniature of the command frame (total of two with many options for musicians, banners and a great variation of heads including helmets, hats and bare heads).

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10687343_647541828696540_114109060991440676_o.jpg)

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 25, 2014, 06:55:11 PM
Excellent  :eusa_clap: Now make a unit of ten full plate knights on foot, just like this one and you have a bestseller.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on September 25, 2014, 07:58:47 PM
Excellent  :eusa_clap: Now make a unit of ten full plate knights on foot, just like this one and you have a bestseller.

Well, the Perry Brothers just did that, and the box has 38 figures in it:

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/oscthumb.php?src=/images/0329-PM-FootKnights.jpg&w=540&h=360&f=jpg&q=95&hash=748aed481147de280484be77104ea3ff)

@Stephan - the command guy looks great!  Is that the 10th body, or is there another landsknecht body we have not yet seen?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on September 25, 2014, 08:00:13 PM
10th Landsknecht will follow soon :) You haven't seen him yet.

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 25, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Excellent  :eusa_clap: Now make a unit of ten full plate knights on foot, just like this one and you have a bestseller.
Well, the Perry Brothers just did that, and the box has 38 figures in it:

Yes, yes, I know, I was following their development, but alas they are more 25mm than 28mm, so not really so usefull, if you want to mix them with GW figs. On the other hand Pro gloria figs are very close to GW figs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fandir Nightshade on September 25, 2014, 08:26:41 PM
Really looking forward to order the overall set as I think they will really help with my Halberdier Hordes as I really dislike the GW ones.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on September 27, 2014, 11:43:45 AM
Another great miniature. Really looking forward to these.  :biggriin:
Will there be extra feathers, pouches and small weapons?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on September 27, 2014, 11:54:10 AM
Excellent  :eusa_clap: Now make a unit of ten full plate knights on foot, just like this one and you have a bestseller.

Not wanting to derail from Pro Gloria's awesome project, but I should have those covered (in metal at least) in the near future:

Now, with all the excitement about the Perry plastic knights on foot, I assume interest for these will be more limited, but I'm still getting on with the human footknights for my project, which will be somewhat closer to the correct bulk and timeperiod than the Perry's and good old classic metal.

Mick Darpa has finished the first of the body dollies, helmet blanks and weapons. The idea is to have the dollies and bits moulded and then have various different knightly orders and command sets sculpted on them. I will probably also make the body dollies available as such, for converters who want to use plastic arms and heads on them.

These are the first three. There will be more body variants (6 in all) and for those concerned about the first body not having fully armoured legs, there will be a fully armoured variant converted after moulding.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10574199_367080816789225_1759710340340183812_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10613086_367080820122558_491572098659606634_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10614123_367080843455889_8262540820984128775_n.jpg)

The helmets are just blanks at this point. After moulding, these will be decorated with various feathers, plumes and icons to reflect different knightly orders. The first knightly orders will likely reflect the ones I created for my Dwarf knights ("vanilla" Imperial knights, White Boar, Great Bear, Raven & skulls) though others may appear.

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10624931_367080856789221_4822136608177794499_n.jpg)

These are some of the weapons that will get used in the various sets. Where possible, I will try to make the weapon hand a separate part, so you can mix and match and aren't restricted to specific weapon options for specific knightly orders.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10639679_367080866789220_8402856056849874368_n.jpg?oh=a2b8a442e5dbd19f5c01ce7b5f8adebd&oe=54785FB3&__gda__=1417760729_3ac09d88b0ba22ca3a7052cb94b4c419)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on September 27, 2014, 06:16:54 PM

Not wanting to derail from Pro Gloria's awesome project, but I should have those covered (in metal at least) in the near future:


No worries; I for one intend to buy from both of you.   :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Pro Gloria Miniatures on September 27, 2014, 07:48:20 PM
@Sebastian: they look great! Do remind me of the Mordheim Capt'n.  :unsure:

@thorimm: yes, extra feathers, pouches, swords and other useful stuff.

Stephan
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on September 28, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Excellent  :eusa_clap: Now make a unit of ten full plate knights on foot, just like this one and you have a bestseller.

Not wanting to derail from Pro Gloria's awesome project, but I should have those covered (in metal at least) in the near future:



And I'm looking forward to it, for these kind of figs I prefer metal anyway.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 01, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
New Hasslefree mini - could easily be converted to a witchhunter.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/HF_Hasslefree-Resin-Master-Justice-Sedonte.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 05, 2014, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: Pro Gloria Miniatures
As the Crowdfunding-Campaign comes nearer and nearer, I wanted to show you one of the pledge-miniatures. This time sculpted by the very talented Paul Hicks.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10606055_651696828281040_3664704412698097997_n.jpg?oh=90dafc85fd875a6f878a9298e60fb908&oe=54AF9EEB&__gda__=1420931923_6c387a98c0f463f839c1f82f5827e852)

(https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/10649799_652621174855272_1286208912532432273_n.jpg?oh=bdc8160eff03e8f8136d2be5d185c9bb&oe=54BA4DA3)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 05, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
They're gorgeous. I love them, and will very likely try to get a hold of some.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 05, 2014, 05:11:43 PM
Looks great, I would love to get some firmer dates for when we can expect the crowdfunding.  Just for proper hobby-fund allocation.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 05, 2014, 06:35:15 PM
They are looking great. This kickstarter will be success, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 05, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
New Perry stuff on the workbench:

Light Cavalry:

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/workbench/LC_550.JPG)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/banners/mtd_archer.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/banners/mtd_xbow.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/banners/trumpet.jpg)

and for later this year ...........

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/d/Agincourt_MatA.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/d/AO_plastic_1.jpg)

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/d/AO_plastic_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 05, 2014, 08:10:07 PM

This might also be interesting as it has details of the helmets in the foot knights set I think:

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/d/Agin_MaA_3_revised.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 06, 2014, 12:39:55 AM
Man, they Perrys are coming out with some really great stuff.  Those men at arms look great!  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on October 06, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
The great thing about this is I can now seperate my big jumbled unit of metal perry men at arms from the agincourt and the war of the roses ranges into two separate units with the correct period armour. The joys of painting another 72 Greatswords for the sake of historical accuracy!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 08, 2014, 05:39:50 PM
(https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/1487860_654475654669824_1278159553480562628_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1525065_654044221379634_5401902401581943019_n.jpg?oh=b3bee4becc4de19238312befb92b7323&oe=54CC876F&__gda__=1422801234_f967a76c34dff5f200ac1dd0ada910ef)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on October 08, 2014, 06:19:20 PM
WOOOOOOOO!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 15, 2014, 01:56:18 AM
I'm liking those men at arms - those would make good variant greatswords or halberdiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 15, 2014, 02:16:11 PM
I do wonder how long it will take for Pro-Gloria to be shipping the plastic units after the kickstarter?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Realjuan on October 15, 2014, 02:35:25 PM
@ProGloria: Could you give us an update when your shop is online again. Looking forward to your indiegogo
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 15, 2014, 04:20:49 PM
I bought a couple of boxes of Perry Foot Knights at the SELWG show on Sunday.
They're really nice and they mix and match with th eprvious two sets as well - it's like we have Ed.6 Soldiers and Militia all over again.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 16, 2014, 12:18:37 AM
How well do the arms of those perry miniatures fit on empire miniatures? I'd love to see a picture of how well they fit on the GW greatsword bodies - has any one tried this?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 16, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
I think I would rather see it the other way around - GS bodies are hard to get hold of, but the arms are easier.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on October 16, 2014, 07:18:43 AM
How well do the arms of those perry miniatures fit on empire miniatures? I'd love to see a picture of how well they fit on the GW greatsword bodies - has any one tried this?

Not exactly what you're looking for but they fit perfectly on 6th edition state troops and vice versa
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 16, 2014, 07:58:11 AM
Perry minis tend to be slimmer and the weapons are realistic rather than "he could never even lift that let alone wield it" heroic.

As the Commander says it is probably best keeping the kit bashing to individual manufacturers.
I did put Ed.6 Soldiers of the Empire arms and heads* on Warlord ECW bodies a while back and it was ok-ish.

[*those heads are slightly smaller than current ones] 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 16, 2014, 10:10:18 AM
I do hope that Pro-Gloria landsknechte heads will look good on perry minis or I have to trim off their hats to bring a more unifying look to my future army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 16, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Pro Gloria
The looters roll by! All sculpting work by Paul Hicks again

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/10632601_659049694212420_3553008370595864954_n.jpg?oh=ee9070de0255ee04a412fb0f0837a27a&oe=54AE0088&__gda__=1421249626_30c5e5103ad977a13a7025a88c2eb24b)

I feel like Pro Gloria's attachθ to WE-com. I wonder if this position gets me a free blister of awesome Pro Gloria metal minis when I make a pledge in their campaign?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 17, 2014, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Pro Gloria
The last Landsknecht body was finished today - this time a banner bearer or casual standing halberdier/pikeman (if you switch the banner top with a pike or halberd head).

So now left is:

1. 10 upright arm-pairs
2. 10 alternate troop heads
3. Optional command arms
4. Optional command heads/ helmets
5. Drum and arms

The fantastic sculpting work is of course again from Michael Anderson

(https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/p526x296/1620585_659379680846088_4579484197604916579_n.jpg?oh=c26be5bd0116099576b9a1db9cc44d4c&oe=54A9E21F)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on October 17, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
Brilliant. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 17, 2014, 11:43:48 PM
That looks great. I need to start drawing banners.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 19, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
Quote from: Pro Gloria
This is the Indiegogo-Only miniature especially sculpted for this campaign by Paul Hicks Maximilian I in his best armour.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1899919_660308260753230_8068472601663073110_n.jpg?oh=3d8eecf8939898affe5927c1c1bd0f3f&oe=54B2F03B&__gda__=1424603068_d581c83777754f9b6c913170f600aaf4)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 19, 2014, 06:51:27 PM
These figures are glorious. Truly lovely figures. Cannot wait for the Indiegogo campaign to start
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on October 20, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
I hope I've enough funds for this. Wow.  :Ohmy:
This will lead to quite a few beautiful Empire armies, me thinks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 20, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
El Soupolai, sculpted by Valentin Zak:

http://ammon-miniatures.com/shop/el-soupolai/ (http://ammon-miniatures.com/shop/el-soupolai/)

I'd love to paint this mini!  :happy:
A different looking figure, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 20, 2014, 02:22:59 PM
Man, they Perrys are coming out with some really great stuff.  Those men at arms look great!  :eusa_clap:
True.  And those Light Cavalry look great too! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 20, 2014, 06:33:28 PM
I bought a couple of boxes of Perry Foot Knights at the SELWG show on Sunday.

Mids; there are 38 figures in the set - how many of those, do you estimate, could be made with some kind of two-handed "halberdesque" weapon?

I am thinking of getting a box and using them to make some halberdiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 21, 2014, 01:25:07 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMzAw/z/VLQAAOSwcu5UMr3z/$_57.JPG)

6 of this main sprue in the box and it looks like 4 two handed axes/hammer and 1 x two handed spear, and then a couple of two handed swords.
The box description talks about making fully armoured Swiss or Burgundian pike too with weapon conversion, or use of the pike arms from the Perry's earlier sets.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on October 21, 2014, 02:25:31 PM
Thanks, Mids - I think that box is right up my alley. Or, I could wait for the Agincourt Men-At-Arms being released later.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 25, 2014, 03:34:57 PM
Usefull and affordable  scenery:

http://www.plastcraftgames.com/en/laminas-texturizadas/724-irregular-stone-paving.html (http://www.plastcraftgames.com/en/laminas-texturizadas/724-irregular-stone-paving.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 29, 2014, 11:36:17 AM
A rather niyce looking hafling mini from Forlorn hope games

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-x3DeE5A_oHM/VE_p10SnNeI/AAAAAAAAmbU/AeGYmow5Me4/s1600/sim2770.png)

Theyc have ogres too

(http://www.forlornhopegames.co.uk/media/com_hikashop/upload/thumbnails/384x336/sim6669.png)

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2014/10/forlorn-hope-games-halfling-nobility.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WargameNewsAndTerrain+%28Wargame+news+and+terrain%2C+A+blog+dedicated+to+the+hobby+of+wargaming%21%29 (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2014/10/forlorn-hope-games-halfling-nobility.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WargameNewsAndTerrain+%28Wargame+news+and+terrain%2C+A+blog+dedicated+to+the+hobby+of+wargaming%21%29)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on October 30, 2014, 02:19:37 AM
I use their archers for Huntsmen:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bdMkVG2YrOc/VEM9kOHnpHI/AAAAAAAADEQ/ZOSnrMXfaXA/s1600/IMG_8935.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m5aAhRqiUGQ/VEM9VU6LzVI/AAAAAAAADEI/oETApaSQfNA/s1600/IMG_8937.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 31, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
wow, they look rather excellent.     :eusa_clap:    so would you recomend the Forlorn minis? How is the casting? How is teh customers service? I'm interested in their minotaurs, ( one never have enough of them.  :engel:)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on November 01, 2014, 02:00:33 AM
I have bought from both Vexillia and Forlorn Hope, and had good service from both. You may want to compare postage from your place to decide which to buy from.

This is how good Vexillia is: http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/2012/05/great-service-from-vexillia.html

The casting from both is fair. The metal they use is soft, so you can get flash between legs and arms and torso for example, but as the metal is soft it is easy to remove.

No mould lines, which are a pain to remove.

The Halflings are great, but the humans vary in their proportions, so look before you order.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 01, 2014, 09:29:53 AM
Good to hear that and a nice blog you run there. Those Forlorn minos are one step closer now.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on November 02, 2014, 08:05:31 PM
The Pro-Gloria campaign is finally live!!!  :happy: :biggriin: :closed-eyes:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/plastic-landsknecht-box

One box is 24 euro postage included worldwide... that beats the GW price quite handily!

I will start a new thread to discuss this campaign in more detail.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 23, 2014, 12:15:03 PM
new? Perry stuff:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E7GiwEY3hjQ/VHCP7UXg3YI/AAAAAAAAnM4/-XszY3yxCZY/s1600/Men_at_arms_frame.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ekAJTv1v4a8/VHCP8MAH87I/AAAAAAAAnNA/0V9XdBKCXHA/s1600/samples_English_Mta_1.jpg)

These would be a good supplement to the Republican guard, size wise and fashion:

(http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp34/dariusZero/Empire/Empire%20gallery/statetroops010.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on December 03, 2014, 03:43:55 AM
Just saw a notice on these. Looks like between White Knights set and this one we are going to have some excellent choices for foot knights and great swords. Personally I don't intend to choose, I'll be taking both as soon as I can get my greedy hands on them.

http://elcantodelasespadas.blogspot.com/2014/12/Last-sword-miniatures-reicgguard-reiksguard-warhammer.html

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a7WNJ2YZZ2Y/VH4pu2Q_NAI/AAAAAAAABtg/XaASgKHf0Hk/s1600/Caballero-%2BReichguard-Reiksguard-a-Pie-Knight-On-Foot-01.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v_EbY_VNTOw/VH4pwF4bs9I/AAAAAAAABt4/3h2mMx5em9M/s1600/Caballero-%2BReichguard-Reiksguard-a-Pie-Knight-On-Foot-04.jpg])

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on December 03, 2014, 08:03:09 AM
wow I like these very much! keep us up to date !!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 04, 2014, 11:13:35 AM
Stronghold terrain sells this miniature/diorama, and they are also very friendly to deal with:

(http://stronghold-terrain.de/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/265x265/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/h/thinker_pose_1_1.jpg)

http://stronghold-terrain.de/index.php/miniaturen/stronghold-terrain/miniature-thinker-pose.html (http://stronghold-terrain.de/index.php/miniaturen/stronghold-terrain/miniature-thinker-pose.html)

Spellcrow is another small but very friendly miniature provider:

(http://www.spellcrow.com/images/Gamir.jpg)

http://www.spellcrow.com/gamir-legendary-hero-p-75.html (http://www.spellcrow.com/gamir-legendary-hero-p-75.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 04, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
This ycould be an interesting alternative for the buff wagon ( Empire of the Dead, 28mm Steampunk Horror game and miniatures )          :

(http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/images/VOTD-10%20VAMPIRE%20COUNTS%20COACH.jpg)

http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=204_229&products_id=1677 (http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=204_229&products_id=1677)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on December 05, 2014, 12:26:10 AM
I need the stronghold guy when I construct my Brother Vinni and Hasslefree  Empire brothel.  :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 05, 2014, 12:39:56 AM
Could also put the Stronghold guy on the War Altar waggon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 05, 2014, 07:25:30 AM
Could also put the Stronghold guy on the War Altar waggon.

Epic win! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on December 10, 2014, 09:09:03 PM
Help me out guys: Is there a European supplier for CoolMiniorNot... err... minis?

The only one I know is Battlefield Berlin, and they don't have the mini I want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 12, 2014, 01:12:22 PM
Pro-Gloria has been sold to Warlord ...

http://theminiaturespage.com/news/?id=2052980698
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 17, 2014, 12:43:11 PM
warlord games have a whole range waiting to be released :

".........We’ve had lots of interest in the range already and like us, you’re eagerly awaiting the chance to get your hands on these glorious models. Fear not though – the range, including several new releases will be released early in 2015. You won’t be disappointed…"

(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Arquebusier-and-officer-600x450.jpg)

http://www.warlordgames.com/sneak-peek-16th-century-gendarmes-and-arquebusiers/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/sneak-peek-16th-century-gendarmes-and-arquebusiers/)

I just wonder if the horses will be compatible visually/size wise with Empire.  :icon_question:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on December 17, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
Pirazzo returns!  :happy:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on December 17, 2014, 04:17:38 PM
I really wish the morian had not become so identified with Estilia. Certainly in the real world plenty of Germans and other northern Europeans used them. That mounted arqubusier needs to be the foundation of my new pistolier unit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 20, 2014, 01:32:23 PM
I really wish the morian had not become so identified with Estilia. Certainly in the real world plenty of Germans and other northern Europeans used them. That mounted arqubusier needs to be the foundation of my new pistolier unit.

The recent warlord horses are a bit smallish.  :cry:

Steam ogres! We can field them as.....anything.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OqZ1rOK4Gz0/VJMcsiwQZfI/AAAAAAAAoRg/bamdpd-6jaY/s1600/370-1413-thickbox.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1506637_861342487230738_5952665858958042301_n.jpg?oh=5b247990284c3ce18cdde9e7a3672042&oe=55445355&__gda__=1426863132_2d113a773e821d315a80940694210d1c)

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2014/12/puppetswar-excellent-steam-ogre.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WargameNewsAndTerrain+%28Wargame+news+and+terrain%2C+A+blog+dedicated+to+the+hobby+of+wargaming%21%29 (http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2014/12/puppetswar-excellent-steam-ogre.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WargameNewsAndTerrain+%28Wargame+news+and+terrain%2C+A+blog+dedicated+to+the+hobby+of+wargaming%21%29)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on December 26, 2014, 03:11:03 PM
New Kislev Winged Hussars on Griffins. Coming soon from Werewolf miniatures.

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10881573_852315384841033_1555585169902845643_n.jpg?oh=3a7c959eba30fdb059e4f7c4584f82f3&oe=5538C6C0)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10858618_852208328185072_6897319926983633356_n.jpg?oh=a7b8081d7226ea611d049e19fa9e8c00&oe=5546AC0A&__gda__=1429932246_502ea63abeaa8429294b1704ea862961)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on January 06, 2015, 08:11:29 PM
How could we miss this?:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1207385459/twisting-catacombs-miniature-dungeon-scenery/

I don't have much of an intention to build a dungeon, but these scenery bits are great and I would have pledged.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on January 06, 2015, 08:38:43 PM
How could we miss this?:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1207385459/twisting-catacombs-miniature-dungeon-scenery/

I don't have much of an intention to build a dungeon, but these scenery bits are great and I would have pledged.

I didn't.  :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on January 06, 2015, 08:41:11 PM
I assume they'll have a shop where the bits can be bought
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on January 07, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
I had not heard of them before the Kickstarter, but they already have a store with some cool stuff.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on January 07, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
That is how to run a kickstart project. Not like pro gloria. Want 5500 got 122000!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 07, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
ProGloria's problem, I think, was that the Kickstart was pretty much just run as "pre-orders". And that's no way to do it - pre-orders are pre-orders, Kickstart needs to have more "oomph" to it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 07, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
Pro gloria’s problem was they asked for a stupid amount of money for a niche product of a niche army in a niche hobby, a product with most people playing that niche army in that niche hobby likely already had.

I can’t remember how much they asked for specifically, but wasn’t it something crazy amounting to like 1/8th of GWs operating profit last year?

Why was it even a kickstarter? Just produce them and sell them like normal models.

Kickstarter is weird.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on January 07, 2015, 03:28:27 PM
I can’t remember how much they asked for specifically, but wasn’t it something crazy amounting to like 1/8th of GWs operating profit last year?
GW would be bankrupt then  :-D
Pro gloria needed 30.000 euros for the campaign to succeed. That is for a plastic injection mold a reasonable amount of money, nothing extreme at all.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on January 07, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
Yeah, I think you might be confusing them with someone else, Finlay.

30K wasn't too high. Their problem - so as I saw it - was a lack of promotion, and not getting enough of a saving on a year-out pre-order. 1euro a figure is a good price ... for something I can take home that day / get delivered in a week. Not for something I've got a wait a year for. Many of us were willing to do that, but not all of us.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on January 07, 2015, 05:24:08 PM
I can’t remember how much they asked for specifically, but wasn’t it something crazy amounting to like 1/8th of GWs operating profit last year?
GW would be bankrupt then  :-D
Pro gloria needed 30.000 euros for the campaign to succeed. That is for a plastic injection mold a reasonable amount of money, nothing extreme at all.

i'm confusing them with that one which wanted to do video games and models combined.



30k for halberdiers is still too high, hence why they failed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on January 16, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
It seems the moulds have arrived in UK! As of today some of the older Pro Gloria metals are available from Warlord Games.
http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/landsknecht (http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/landsknecht)

£12 for 8 troops, or £7 for 4 command figures or specials.  :-)
Does somebody know what the previous price was? (At the moment the Pound Sterling/Euro ratio is rapidly increasing due to bad politics of ECB  :cry:)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 16, 2015, 04:52:48 PM
That looks like pretty good value to me, I was expecting at least £2 per figure.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 16, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
The original price for one mini was exactly: 1,86€ as you can see in this thread:

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=47276.msg849296#msg849296 (http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=47276.msg849296#msg849296)

Now it's 1,94€ which is 8 cents more expensive. Only it doesn't say if the figs are sold with or without pikes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on January 24, 2015, 04:28:32 PM
Another kickstarter project that some of you might find interesting:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806316071/conan?ref=category
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 24, 2015, 10:05:26 PM
It's 2015. Why in the world would any miniatures company *not* have photos of their miniatures on their web site?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 11, 2015, 01:03:42 PM
something differnet, Wrath od kings , from their kickstarter

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/180/872/893540483fd90dfdbe9c1bf9bda024ab_large.jpg?1381829751)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 11, 2015, 04:20:44 PM
I really like that dragon.  I was supposed to go in on my buddy's KS pledge to get one, but he ended up dropping the pledge.  The dragon is cool, but the rider is pretty lame, what with the macaroni helmet and all.

I almost went in on the WoK KS, but there were just too many crappy sculpts to try to balance out the average/mediocre ones.  They claimed to have the same talent as Rackham, but I didn't see it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 11, 2015, 07:04:31 PM
I agree, not too fond  of the rider. I really want to like the dragon, and it's mostly good... but the spines kind of ruin it for me. They are too small, dagger-like, and spaced too far apart. If they were a continuous (or near continuous) row, or bigger, had a wider base, or were some sort of continuous ridge or crest. Honestly, I think that it wouldn't be too difficult to convert it anyway. Just my opinion.

And spearing of unasked-for opinions, I sort of agree with Timbor about the sculpts. I don't think many of the sculpts are amazing, most are decent in my opinion. They're fairly plain, which I usually prefer to the style of figures that are loaded up with way too many details (skullz, jems, hour glasses, random objects stamped with your ruler's initials...) I think the painting is really great on most of the figures, which is what really makes them stand out. That and the tits & BDSM gear. And giant, physics defying headgear.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on February 11, 2015, 07:57:00 PM
yet another kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/shieldwolf-war-is-coming

this one has potential demigryph alternatives
but I like the ogre firebreathers particularly
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 11, 2015, 10:03:52 PM
I agree, not too fond  of the rider. I really want to like the dragon, and it's mostly good... but the spines kind of ruin it for me. They are too small, dagger-like, and spaced too far apart. If they were a continuous (or near continuous) row, or bigger, had a wider base, or were some sort of continuous ridge or crest. Honestly, I think that it wouldn't be too difficult to convert it anyway. Just my opinion.

And spearing of unasked-for opinions, I sort of agree with Timbor about the sculpts. I don't think many of the sculpts are amazing, most are decent in my opinion. They're fairly plain, which I usually prefer to the style of figures that are loaded up with way too many details (skullz, jems, hour glasses, random objects stamped with your ruler's initials...) I think the painting is really great on most of the figures, which is what really makes them stand out. That and the tits & BDSM gear. And giant, physics defying headgear.

We always love your opinions, 023  :happy:

The tits/BDSM thing really annoys me, which is what put me off of the range mostly.  That and they seem to have pulled a "this company had success with this style, so lets take that and stretch it to the extreme..."  This sort-of thing ends in figures that are usually too over-the-top for my liking.  In this case - too anime, too BDSM (c'mon, fat ladies wearing pasties?  People actually buy this?), their not-wolfen just don't have the appeal of the Rackham stuff, their weird big-head dudes don't compare to the rackham big-head dwarfs and are just too damn weird. 

Their underwater guys are kinda cool though, I am thinking of getting their giant octopus rider.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 21, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
Round bases are here; better be preparad, than surprised with your pants down. :engel:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fUZvhQ1eSWA/VOeHQ7joCcI/AAAAAAAAqlg/fJUOHfaRzgM/s1600/WG-BASE-28-25x50-round-bases-b.jpg)

http://www.warlordgames.com/new-warlord-games-lipped-bases/ (http://www.warlordgames.com/new-warlord-games-lipped-bases/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on February 23, 2015, 09:14:11 PM
Alionas Miniatures:
http://www.alionas.com/shop/shopmichel_online/index_en.html

I have seen their Warhammer-esque civilians before, but they got a couple of other miniatures as well, that some of you might like or find interesting (Dwarfs, Barbarians, etc.). They are reminiscent of 80s/90s GW. Oh, and they have Elvis-Elves ... !  :icon_lol:

(http://www.alionas.com/shop/shopmichel_online/data/img/106-001-02_max.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 23, 2015, 09:49:28 PM
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/f33bcc7ea1fcdb9f4f33c6e0f2c6f4ac.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on February 23, 2015, 10:05:28 PM
(http://www.evelknievelshirts.com/images/Evel-Knievel-edit.jpg)

This, or possibly this.

(http://footage.framepool.com/shotimg/qf/360924125-siegfried-fischbacher-albino-tiger-animal-las-vegas.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 24, 2015, 03:26:50 AM
The miniature of Evel Knievel is surpringly realistic, and who ever painted it using such a limited pallet of blacks and white is a genius.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 24, 2015, 01:12:37 PM
I just noticed that Sgt. Major Miniatures have some fantasy figures, including giant, halflings, and peasants. Sgt. Major is the current owner of the former Vendel range of figures (now apparently called Bloody Day), which have been previously discussed.

http://www.sgmm.biz/Roleplay_c_113.html
http://www.sgmm.biz/Bloody-Day-28mm-Elizabethans_c_17.html
http://www.sgmm.biz/Bloody-Day-28mm-Fantasy_c_23.html
http://www.sgmm.biz/Bloody-Day-28mm-Miscelaneous_c_20.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 24, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
Alionas Miniatures:
http://www.alionas.com/shop/shopmichel_online/index_en.html

I have seen their Warhammer-esque civilians before, but they got a couple of other miniatures as well, that some of you might like or find interesting (Dwarfs, Barbarians, etc.). They are reminiscent of 80s/90s GW. Oh, and they have Elvis-Elves ... !  :icon_lol:

(http://www.alionas.com/shop/shopmichel_online/data/img/106-001-02_max.jpg)

The last catalog is from 2007?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on February 24, 2015, 11:24:39 PM
What happend to foundry's fantasy range? I can't find their puff and slash mercenary orcs ??!!??
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 25, 2015, 01:40:34 AM
What happend to foundry's fantasy range? I can't find their puff and slash mercenary orcs ??!!??

I was looking for those also. I searched elsewhere for other sources, but without luck. I used to order from Caliver Books because it was easier than ordering direct and they didn't screw non-UK customers on both the exchange and postage like Foundry did.

It sounds like Foundry is still selling the orcs at shows. They also appear to have them listed on the "Foundry Official" Pinterest, but I don't have that app, nor do I want to install it and sign up for an account just to cater to a company that seems to be trying to make it as difficult as possible to order their product. :roll:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on February 25, 2015, 02:40:58 AM
Foundry is selling some of their fantasy range via an ebay shop: http://stores.ebay.com/Flyte-of-Fantasy
They have added quite a few models to the shop since the last time I have checked.

Talking about Foundry: I've wrote them around 1 year ago and suggested that they should also offer mounted models and their horses seperately. The reply was that they will consider it, but aparently the answer is 'no'. I just don't want to pay for all the horses I have no use for. Is there anyone here in need of Foundry Renaissance horses, or has some riders/knights from that range for sale by any chance?  :closed-eyes:

(http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/files/4313/8754/3390/REN017.png)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 25, 2015, 03:53:56 AM
As far as I can tell, the eBay store is all stuff that is available on their web site already. So, unfortunately, no puff & slash orcs.

Based on the prices at that eBay store, human & goblin sized fantasy figures would cost over $6/figure here in the US (including shipping.) Given that the old prices for the great orcs were at least (more?) than a standard pack of smaller troops, they would end up being over $30 each.

I had thought Foundry was turning themselves around in recent years, but the still seem to be a bit of a train wreck. I guess I'm not too bothered by the lack of great orcs after all, as I wouldn't pay that much for them anyway. Hopefully I can find the last few (trying to get 3 more) on the secondary market.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on February 25, 2015, 08:43:00 AM
It's a shame they got rid of their fantasy line. Their elf models were quite nice, and unique.

(https://sdtaylor.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/wargames-foundry-elves.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on February 25, 2015, 11:34:00 AM
Yeah, it seems they have dropped it, at least according to the FlyteOfFantasy eBay store; shame, that!! :-(
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on February 25, 2015, 04:25:28 PM
It really is kind of strange why they would drop these miniatures, especially when you have a look at some of the miniatures that they do actually have for sale - There are quite a few rubbish ones and I can't imagine anyone buying those.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 25, 2015, 05:13:51 PM
Yeah, Foundry made a good go at revamping, and I daresay they have re-established their historical ranges well, but the fantasy stuff has been languishing.  They keep saying they are planning to make a fantasy website and will restart the discontinued lines, but that has been quite some time in the works.  They also have a ton of new greenskin greens that have been posted on their 'warmonger minis' site, sculpted by kev adams:

https://www.facebook.com/warmongerminiatures

There is hope these things will see the light of day again.  I think part of the reason they have not brought many of them back is that the moulds were poorly organized, and thus were not that useful or efficient for filling orders, as there would be too many odd miniatures produced (I remember something along the lines of vikings and orcs sharing the same mould, or something similar.

I really wish I had gotten more of their regular orcs...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 25, 2015, 05:15:23 PM
Also, I am pretty sure if you find something you want from the ebay store and email Foundry, they could offer you a better price.  The ebay prices are probably 10% higher than the website prices due to the ebay fees.  So if you pay them outside of ebay, they should give you a better price.  That and the website has free worldwide shipping over 80GBP.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 25, 2015, 05:35:51 PM
That would help, the shipping has usually been a deal killer, which is why I've previously ordered through Caliver. I did see the Warmonger Facebook site when I was looking for their figures for sale, and they supposedly have a store via some Facebook app, but it doesn't work.

Honestly they should forget about eBay, Facebook, Pinterest, creating new sub-brands, etc. and just get their web site in order first. There's really no point in all the social media and marketing stuff if people can't buy your product.


Years ago, I drew up sketches for some renaissance orcs/ogres with the thought of trying to sculpt & cast a few. (Not that I am anywhere near as good as Kev Adams.) Maybe I should reconsider giving that a shot -- it's not like the competition is worth worrying about.  :lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 25, 2015, 06:34:09 PM
The Mercenary Orcs are still alive and well - especially well at the prices for them.

I have been in correspondence with them in recent weeks providing pictures from my collection of models they haven't found the moulds for.

Orcs are being repackaged singly and renumbered - I have some info which I can send anyone interested - at £7 each which I think is a bit steep and those that they have found have been available at shows since April 2014 Salute at least.
The ogres are more expensive at £9 or more.

I've been trying to get a full set for many years, having first bought bargain bucket blisters at shows with 3 orcs or 2 ogres at around £4 a pack.
Timbor and I have been at this for a while, but I found postage to Canada extortionate.

I do have some spares if anyone wants to trade.





 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 25, 2015, 07:15:15 PM
Hey Midaski,

Have they said much about the generic Kev Adams orcs?  I want to get some more of those... just painted some up recently, and I truly enjoyed them.  Just look at them!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vUOQbrrhJI0/VOvefSn6FVI/AAAAAAAAAmw/xWxp2djsz5k/s1600/Orcs%2Bfrnt.JPG)

I remember they had some units of these guys they sold, as well as individuals.  I would love to get ahold of some of those unit sets... think they sold them in sets of 16...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 25, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
I think the plan is to put everything of Kev's on the Warmonger site and sell from there.

However they do seem to take an awfully long time to sort things.

I have a couple of word documents they sent me with pictures of what they have found moulds for - everything seems to be in singles though.

How's your collection going?
I need to make a list of what I am missing - I have virtually all of the Orcs but am missing about 9 of the Ogres I think.
There are some 'muddied waters' though as there are figures I called Ogres that seem to be Orcs and vice versa ..............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on February 26, 2015, 02:50:26 AM
I haven't really added anything to the collection in over a year, most likely.  Just been waiting to pick up the stuff I am missing if/when they actually get the site up and running.  They had a couple singles on their facebook store that I did not have, but I did not want to put in an order for just two figures at their retail price.

Do you have a document with the different poses of the regular orcs, not the mercenary ones?  You still have my email?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 26, 2015, 12:56:41 PM
Thnaks for the info about the mercenary orcs, I would appreciate if you keep us informed, so that when they are available, the rest of us peasants can get them too.

Perry bros new cav:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GApJSuTRFEY/VO4Mdb9l5zI/AAAAAAAAqw0/8Dq3YOiO-Vo/s1600/LC_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on February 26, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
Haha, all the light cav troop types I've been converting or have already converted seem to be covered by the Perries. But these are not plastics, are they?

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 26, 2015, 03:39:17 PM
Oh Yes they are - due shortly. 12 figures per box.

(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/wr/frame_medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 26, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
Those look great. Nice that they've got bits to equip every figure with bow, crossbow, and/or spear.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 26, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
So, will these be available on Salute? I might order some, if the price is right. Will anyone be going on Salute?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on February 27, 2015, 04:10:05 PM
I love those Perry light horse. Mind you, I love everything they produce. The fact that there are options for the bows wrapped up in cloth while the soldiers ride between battles is a most excellent option (great for campaign thread photos). That set will, most definitely, be mine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 27, 2015, 09:26:35 PM
Haha, after all of my bitching I discovered a small stash of the Great Orcs at a local shop & I picked up enough to finish the minimum sized unit I wanted.  :roll:  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on February 28, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
Them Perrys will fill out the last hole in my DoW army nicely.

Ah, Foundry orcs......I think I have pretty much every one of the Puff-n-slash ones (there is an obscene amount of chaps with muskets!), but man, I'd really want them to re-release the common orcs, not to mention the dwarfs. I guess it will happen at some point.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on February 28, 2015, 03:00:45 PM
Yes, the light cav might be a succesfull product, I might get some to use either as Brets, mercs or empire light.

Other news:

Warlord has released the first metal Progloria vigneete.

(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/WGP-LS-40-Last-Rites-a-600x600.jpg)

Not bad, I believe they are even cheaper here than they were on Progloria, so at least this has improved.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on February 28, 2015, 11:34:38 PM
No knew word on the Pro Gloria plastics?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on March 10, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
Not that I've heard.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Cal1989 on March 26, 2015, 09:43:23 PM
I'm very tempted by the new Raging Heroes Kickstarter
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 01, 2015, 02:59:27 AM
Warlord is selling there landsknecht regiment deals at about 20% off.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 01, 2015, 09:39:28 AM
Forge world new character, looks 40k, but would work in Empire too, I think.

(http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/FW/Blogs/ZIM1E50FDS_SD42A53A.jpg)

And another robohorse:

http://www.coppermineminiatures.co.uk/kickstarter/4588432391 (http://www.coppermineminiatures.co.uk/kickstarter/4588432391)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XZ3V7Qiz2C8/VRrQqh1IzKI/AAAAAAAAsC8/Ht1CKIu5h2Q/s1600/Capture7a.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 01, 2015, 02:54:49 PM
Leather duster?
Goggles?
Non-functional surface mounted gears?

OK, looks like they've got the core steampunk cliches covered...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 01, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10384842_1025921010770134_5754279742716821059_n.jpg?oh=66ff7acd5c7c70fcc5a7e56c418254fc&oe=55A0F986&__gda__=1437974247_9810837bda21811991ba26ba657039fb)

New Game from Osprey and NorthStar - the latter producing metal and plastic minis for it???

Quote
The next project between North Star and Osprey Games will be Frostgrave.
 Frostgrave is a Fantasy Wargame. Teams of Wizards and their henchmen battle over lost magic artefacts in an ancient frozen city.
 We will be producing in partnership with Osprey a range of metal figures and, for the first time from North Star, plastic figures for the game.
 Lots more news to come of course, and there will be a Nickstarter pre-order program offering you lots of bribes and pressies to place your order early with us. This will start in May.
 Official release date for Frostgrave is July 2015.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 03, 2015, 11:50:10 AM
I have seen this too, I'm intrerested how will they go about the rules, could be usefull if the ninth ed goes bonkers and 8th goes way of a dodo.

""From Northstar Miniatures: "So this is serious and straight up, plastic fantasy/ medieval henchmen." and a preview picture of a possible plastic miniature dressd in winter gear and also useful for Game of Thrones!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3TocybUim2E/VR13G5flXRI/AAAAAAAAsHs/cL76oajffP0/s1600/11013345_1026210900741145_3980390356637018903_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 03, 2015, 02:25:12 PM
I was a playtester for Frostgrave.

http://corblogme.blogspot.sg/search/label/Frostgrave

It's more like Mordheim than WHFB, except the only person who advances is your wizard (and by extension his apprentice).

The rules are a lot of fun, however, and if you have a WHFB army with a couple of wizards you already have a warband ready to go.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 03, 2015, 04:06:15 PM
That sounds quite promising, I prefer games that don't take too much time to play.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 03, 2015, 04:49:32 PM
They're running a preview at Salute in three weeks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 05, 2015, 01:30:14 AM
I found this page on Facebook. Supposed to be running an Indigogo campaign in April.

https://www.facebook.com/warbandMiniatures/photos_stream (https://www.facebook.com/warbandMiniatures/photos_stream)

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11091157_996707430341341_4374599583956171660_n.jpg?oh=7ce9a0302dad25551c1f2377b67944c7&oe=55B7C0BC)

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11050223_995531963792221_4643339939241819025_n.jpg?oh=1a98a7af3e9343f8e86db6db73e990bc&oe=55B58695)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11069861_994309697247781_7193992614139064334_n.jpg?oh=afe1026a24e6358ae533b1431cc4cfbf&oe=559AC255&__gda__=1436994276_7e51e6b5fa9b05de7d02418517834cde)

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11075187_992252054120212_5998562129130515706_n.jpg?oh=9e5554023ba1bec94c7f112529937c94&oe=55B11837)

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/10922827_971768679501883_3758165688630759118_n.jpg?oh=5e27c4b5e69d79fb75db1660a1535d05&oe=559F32F1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 05, 2015, 02:04:17 AM
Very creative, original. Good to see more companies breaking new ground with original concepts.  :roll:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 05, 2015, 02:09:43 AM
Ah sarcasm. Not me, I'd rather see variations on themes I like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 05, 2015, 03:54:57 AM
I do to.... but only to a certain extent. It's one thing to see someone make their own interpretation of the "battle nun" concept, but this is flat-out, lazy copying of someone else's ideas. Even then, I could totally respect that as a personal fan/hobby project. I like seeing hobbyists doing cool conversions or sculpts for figures in existing games. But this appears to be someone trying to make money from stealing ideas.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 05, 2015, 04:11:46 AM
I like how it seems they are trying to see how close they can get to actually copying the GW IP (ie twin tailed comet, mordheim-esque text, etc).  I gotta agree with 023 on this one.  This seems like far more of a blatant copy than the Raging Heroes stuff, which genuinely feels like a unique take on a popular concept.  It's a tough line to tread though, as you can arguably predict that a small, unknown startup will have a very hard time just breaking even by offering something completely novel.  People tend to be like cattle, they like a set routine.  Same breakfast, same path to work, same daily pattern, same popular fantasy themes.  (except for some of us outlandish outliers  :closed-eyes:)

I wonder if the indiegogo will get cancelled due to a CnD from 'ol big brother GW?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 05, 2015, 04:14:27 AM
I don't know. GW is not supporting Mordheim and has not done so for a long time. The Mordheim community is pretty strong though. It seems logical that someone would step in and fill that niche. Not everyone has the time or the skill to convert or sculpt their own Sisters of Sigmar and god knows most of us can't afford to buy the originals.

You could argue that GW was the lazy actor here because they can't be bothered to support the game and don't respect there own product enough to allow healthy competition.

If the finished product is as good as these examples then more power to them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 05, 2015, 07:54:37 AM
Yeah, I agree with Red graf here, if GW don't want to support their own IP then screw them, I will suport whatever company that takes the ball and continues the range. It's not like they invented everything. NUns with knives, cmon, you can't IP licence that. Sometimes I have a feeling you guys work for the GW IP department. :roll:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on April 05, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
NUns with knives, cmon, you can't IP licence that.

If you could, the Catholic Church would have done it back in the 1400s.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 05, 2015, 05:07:49 PM
These aren't just "nuns with knives." A lot of companies have taken their own shot at that. These are sculpted in the exact same style as the GW figures, and are covered with cliche Sigmarite symbols. In fact, they arguably align with three specific characters from Mordheim.

Honestly, if they had even just left off the comets & lettering, I would have given them a pass on the "close but still generic enough."

Regardless, if GW it sitting on their IP, that's their business. They may have other plans for it, and it's their right to let a game sit idle for a while. They let Space Hulk go dormant for years at a time, but have brought it back. It doesn't give third parties the right to rip them off. The fact that not everyone has access to the old figures or can't afford the prices they fetch on the secondary market doesn't change that.

Believe me, I am far from GW's biggest fan. I buy figures from a bunch of different sources. The same IP laws that protect GW also (theoretically) protect small & independent companies that develop their own IP.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 05, 2015, 05:57:50 PM
Unless one of us is an Intellectual Property Lawyer on the GW payroll this whole discussion can be boiled down to I like them or I don't. I think we are all aware that you don't.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 05, 2015, 07:29:09 PM
I like them - but I think 923 is right about the IP - they'll get jumped on for the comet, probably the 'S' and the hammer.

I suppose 9th Ed might not use the comet ....................  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 05, 2015, 07:35:24 PM
And the comet thing is also GW IP, right? :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 05, 2015, 09:26:47 PM
The Comet is only a single tailed comet and S could stand for a lot of things. I think if GW couldn't get a decisive victory in the Chapter House case then they probably couldn't win on the merits here either. That being said this seems to be a real fly by night operation, GW doesn't have to win on the merits all it has to do is make the guy understand what his attorneys will charge him to take the case to trial and the problem is solved.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 06, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
I was browsing Gripping Beasts new website - which they told me was coming in a recent newsletter ..............

.....when I found some new product available at Salute, which they don't seem to have told many people about.  :engel:

LightCavalry

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/userfiles/images/sys/products/GBP06_Arab_Light_Cavalry_83661.jpeg)

Heavy Cavalry

(http://www.grippingbeast.com/userfiles/images/sys/products/GBP05_Arab_Heavy_Cavalry_32716.jpeg)

£22.00 a box
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 06, 2015, 09:15:54 PM
Are these plastic multi part kits?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 06, 2015, 09:28:08 PM
12 Multi-part plastic Arab Light Cavalry.

Comes with enough parts to make all 12 into javelin/spear armed or bow armed chaps.or, of course, a mix of both.
There are separate bow cases and quivers,
Many head variants and arms with trumpets and swords are included,




12 Multi-part Plastic Arab Heavy Cavalry and bases.

Comes with enough parts to make either 12 spear armed or 12 bow armed chaps or some mix of both!
Contains extra head variants, separate bow cases  and quivers, alternative arms with swords or trumpets.



All in all, jolly nice.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 06, 2015, 09:32:45 PM
12 Multi-part plastic Arab Light Cavalry.

Comes with enough parts to make all 12 into javelin/spear armed or bow armed chaps.or, of course, a mix of both.
There are separate bow cases and quivers,
Many head variants and arms with trumpets and swords are included,




12 Multi-part Plastic Arab Heavy Cavalry and bases.

Comes with enough parts to make either 12 spear armed or 12 bow armed chaps or some mix of both!
Contains extra head variants, separate bow cases  and quivers, alternative arms with swords or trumpets.



All in all, jolly nice.



Thanks, if these are close in size to GW they would make some cracking Araby cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 08, 2015, 12:38:47 PM
They looks like Araby cavalry to me. :icon_cool: :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 08, 2015, 02:41:53 PM
They're going to be a stock response like the Bret Pegasus.

Try these if you want Arab Cavalry ......................  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Quickbeam on April 09, 2015, 08:08:26 AM
Man those look like they would make some great Araby Cavalry  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warhammer-Weib on April 09, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
I've just taken a look at the Salute update of Black Scorpion miniatures ... lots of awesome minis I'd like to paint:

https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/ (https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 09, 2015, 07:39:25 PM
I've just taken a look at the Salute update of Black Scorpion miniatures ... lots of awesome minis I'd like to paint:

https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/ (https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/)

I was just wondering if I could give the Amazons weapons - most of the hands look accessible.
I have a few sets of theirs on my shopping list - only two weeks from this Saturday.
I'm having to catch a train this year, which seriously might hinder my carrying capacity.  :engel:
I usually run around and collect my pre-orders and then take them back to the car, have some lunch and then browse ..........

So far I have 4 boxes of Arab Cavalry, 2 Boxes of Mongol Heavy Cavalry, a few 4Ground bits. Then a couple of Boxes of Perry Mounted Light Cavalry ................ lovely multi-part plastic ..........  :biggriin:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sikander on April 09, 2015, 11:15:58 PM
Any body ever ordered from http://www.alionas.com/

they have some 'interesting' miniatures!

Some nice civilians including 'fierce step mother' and 'baker'
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 10, 2015, 02:21:45 AM
Optimized for IE!  :ph34r:

This site was mentioned somewhere else recently. Looks like it hasn't been updated in a little while. I'd try to contact them first.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 10, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
It sure looks crazy, new Eden mini, it has some potential for the display mini, plus it has some Empire vibe, I mean for the 9th edition  :engel:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11010528_292967557493583_193100158751313468_n.jpg?oh=6899f883a422f851cef9c348d4b6dc21&oe=55A4BCE8&__gda__=1437372275_299505289fe12de6e47865c1b8384bde)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 11, 2015, 01:14:55 AM
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/4/44/Krang_android.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100314150933&path-prefix=de)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 11, 2015, 08:19:35 AM
Why does he need two dudes for securing his legs?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 11, 2015, 08:20:50 PM
Why does he need two dudes for securing his legs?

It's hard to tell if they are putting on his armor or just fawning over him. In any case that is one seriously disturbing miniature.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 11, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
In any case that is one seriously disturbing miniature.

I have been to the Kingdom Death miniatures website - this doesn't phase me.  :ph34r:


For what it's worth, my first thought was that they were putting his armor on, which I thought was an odd pose for a gaming mini, who should probably be suited up before the battle. Fawning seems like it would be less awkward (if only slightly so.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on April 11, 2015, 11:23:12 PM
Proper fawning should be made up front.

Looks more like the minions are keeping him from collapsing during his delirious incantations, judging by the oddly bent left leg.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 12, 2015, 12:27:29 AM

Saw this was just posted at Lead Adventure:

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=77533.0

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/woah02)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 12, 2015, 02:50:01 AM
At first I thought that was an angry child with a crossbow. Halfling works better. Really a nice sculpt in that context.

For some reason the Kingdom Death stuff doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 12, 2015, 03:52:54 AM
At first I thought that was an angry child with a crossbow. Halfling works better. Really a nice sculpt in that context.

For some reason the Kingdom Death stuff doesn't bother me.

I'm honestly not "bothered" by any of it, and I think a lot of it is quite good. I just think some of their critters are a lot more bizarre than that priest/Krang.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 12, 2015, 06:50:27 AM
Getting that halfling for sure when it is released!

I am bothered by all humanoid figures which look like they can't wipe their own butts. That's my yardstick.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 12, 2015, 07:51:25 AM
Getting that halfling for sure when it is released!
It is a great figure!

I am bothered by all humanoid figures which look like they can't wipe their own butts. That's my yardstick.
You use a stick, from the yard, to wipe your butt?!!? What else do you use it for?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 12, 2015, 09:07:44 AM

You use a stick, from the yard, to wipe your butt?!!? What else do you use it for?
[/quote]

To shake at things which are in abundance; hence the expression "more [X] than you can shake a stick at".
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on April 14, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
sounds exciting!

Quote
FROSTGRAVE Fantasy Wargames in the Frozen City

We are officially announcing now the next project between North Star and Osprey Games.
It's called Frostgrave, and it's a fantasy wargame set in a frozen city.
Here's Ospreys description
of the game:

FROSTGRAVE Fantasy Wargames in the Frozen City

In this fantasy skirmish wargame, wizards battle amidst the frozen ruins of an ancient city, in the hopes of discovering the treasures of a fallen empire.
Players take on the roles of wizards from one of ten schools of magic, and build their bands of followers. While the wizard's apprentice will usually accompany his master, more than a dozen other henchmen types are available for hire, from lowly thugs to heavily armoured knights and stealthy assassins.

Wizards can build their magical knowledge by unlocking ancient secrets, with the potential to learn up to 80 different spells. As players gain power and wealth, they can develop their headquarters on the outskirts of the city, turning basic locations into bastions of their art and equipping them with alchemical laboratories, mystical forges, astronomical telescopes and other magical resources.
While individual games of Frostgrave are quick and can easily be played in an hour or two, it is by connecting these games into an ongoing campaign that players will find the most enjoyment. The scenarios given in the book are merely the beginning of the limitless, thrilling adventures that can be found amidst the ruins of the lost city.
FROSTGRAVE Fantasy Wargames in the Frozen City    The release date is July 2015

We will be producing a range of metal wizards and apprentices, 20 in all, for the game. We will also be making metal specialist soldiers, and for the first time ever, a box of plastic figures. The plastic figures titled Frostgrave Soldiers will allow you to build your own customised henchmen to explore Frostgrave. More details to follow of course, at the moment we're showing a Wizard a day on our Facebook page, make sure you have a look.
The release date is July 2015
The big thing to look out for in May is the Nickstarter pre-order program for Frostgrave, lots of great stuff exclusively for you guys who get in early.

FROSTGRAVE Fantasy Wargames in the Frozen City

(https://dub120.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=lMMkdRJDM8KIT6alasqpTyIaP3Z%2fG1MLq%2bjCRh98P4c%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2fdownloads.northstarfigures.com%2fnewsletter%2fimages%2fSummoner.jpg)
(https://dub120.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=lMMkdRJDM8KIT6alasqpTyIaP3Z%2fG1MLq%2bjCRh98P4c%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2fdownloads.northstarfigures.com%2fnewsletter%2fimages%2fWitch.jpg)
(https://dub120.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=lMMkdRJDM8KIT6alasqpTyIaP3Z%2fG1MLq%2bjCRh98P4c%3d0&url=http%3a%2f%2fdownloads.northstarfigures.com%2fnewsletter%2fimages%2fDSCN5846.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 14, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
@ FROSTGRAVE: The miniatures don't impress me to be honest.

Has anyone heard any news about the Pro Gloria / Warlord Games plastic Landsknechts lately? It has become awfully quiet. I have checked their facebook site and their forum, but there hasn't been a single update regarding them so far.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 14, 2015, 04:47:55 PM
If I remember I'll ask on their stand at Salute - I have them bookmarked for a visit.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 15, 2015, 10:49:59 AM
Frostgrave: not bad aaand metal

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6GmL5qpMwp8/VS1BE6TaC2I/AAAAAAAAsk0/9yvEl3Jii_M/s1600/11156308_1033473940014841_6974927736531752741_n.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xOzKMLQjCow/VS0_ODPtyeI/AAAAAAAAsko/b80akqaqhRc/s1600/DSCN5846.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 15, 2015, 10:56:34 AM
These minis would certainly make sense in the 40k faction, sci-fi civilians, once the kickstarter finishes:

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/507/087/41e40cbaba1f92f4d8138a8938236b9a_original.JPG?v=1427383781&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=f23bd77e9862011484c2501ef46b1bb4)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/62661939/colony-87-28mm-sci-fi-civilians/ (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/62661939/colony-87-28mm-sci-fi-civilians/)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 15, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
@ FROSTGRAVE: The miniatures don't impress me to be honest.

Has anyone heard any news about the Pro Gloria / Warlord Games plastic Landsknechts lately? It has become awfully quiet. I have checked their facebook site and their forum, but there hasn't been a single update regarding them so far.

I just asked about them and it looks like they will not be sent for tooling for at least a year and only a portion of what was originally planned will be released. Fewer figures and fewer options.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 16, 2015, 01:32:47 AM
@ FROSTGRAVE: The miniatures don't impress me to be honest.

Has anyone heard any news about the Pro Gloria / Warlord Games plastic Landsknechts lately? It has become awfully quiet. I have checked their facebook site and their forum, but there hasn't been a single update regarding them so far.

I just asked about them and it looks like they will not be sent for tooling for at least a year and only a portion of what was originally planned will be released. Fewer figures and fewer options.

Go Warlord Games! ...

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 16, 2015, 01:53:31 AM



Go Warlord Games! ...


[/quote]

Yeah I know. Still, I think the one year thing is from the point where they acquired the figures so part of that time is run. It's a damn shame Pro Gloria didn't get these out on their own.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 16, 2015, 08:11:16 AM
I quite like this one - would fit with my Sisters

(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/15897_1034597089902526_6652470855078204735_n.jpg?oh=d9178c9bcc461bbb8ac3a211bb2f8597&oe=5599F371)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 16, 2015, 08:14:19 AM
Have you not read what she has on her scroll, though? That's just rude!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on April 16, 2015, 02:05:06 PM
except the scroll os kinda floating in the air under her hand, like she dropped it
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 17, 2015, 01:51:50 AM
Apparently it is supposed to be floating.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 17, 2015, 04:02:04 AM
Magic! Go figure.  :wink:  I do like that figure.



Disappointing about the Pro Gloria Warlord landsknechts. Not that it will take a while to hit the market, I don't mind that. More disappointed at the more limited kit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 17, 2015, 06:40:32 AM
It's a pity, that the fingers are not well elaborated. could be perfect.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on April 17, 2015, 05:14:18 PM
new sisters of sigmar

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sisters-of-serens-fantasy-miniatures
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on April 17, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Gripping beast new cav:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RI9QQDxA6KE/VS7BnrVNeNI/AAAAAAAAspw/aO-zKn8tAnY/s1600/11083922_869859593059726_996939639042370894_n.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1M9bDfLePpo/VS7Bz21PdbI/AAAAAAAAsqA/yHDwnhUylCI/s1600/a632e9a9-2a59-4166-8e84-a1091dc29467.jpg)

And all these brands can't manage to make the same excellent horses as GW, which only shows how good sculpts are GW horses, hands down, they are probaly still the best on the market.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 18, 2015, 11:40:04 AM
except the scroll is kinda floating in the air under her hand, like she dropped it

You Unbeliever!   Burn Him

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11150277_1035514096477492_6156233507312498167_n.jpg?oh=fee2ceacefe296f647a0fc46bd550f2a&oe=559E633C&__gda__=1440942785_aea585d077a8319bb2c53992d930f00f)

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on April 18, 2015, 08:10:29 PM
You keep trying, I'm immortal :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 18, 2015, 11:07:05 PM
Dropping the scroll is like the medieval/fantasy version of dropping the mic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 26, 2015, 05:40:54 PM
Saw Kev Adams at Salute - apparently he'[s adding to his Mercenary Orcs and Ogres range:
Some 11 new sculpts being worked on:

One very dodgy picture of one he brought along:

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Miscellaneous/New%20Merc%20Ogre%201A_zps1fqjjwvy.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Miscellaneous/New%20Merc%20Ogre%201A_zps1fqjjwvy.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 26, 2015, 05:44:18 PM
Oh and while we're talking of Salute, and still on the same page - here's some 3-Ups of the plastic henchmen figures Renedra are doing for Frostgrave:

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Miscellaneous/Retainers%20Greens%20%203-Ups%204_zpsxqjusgro.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Miscellaneous/Retainers%20Greens%20%203-Ups%204_zpsxqjusgro.jpg.html)

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/Miscellaneous/Retainers%20Greens%20%203-Ups%202_zpsqpnjeh7j.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/Miscellaneous/Retainers%20Greens%20%203-Ups%202_zpsqpnjeh7j.jpg.html)


Dodgy pics from my phone, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 26, 2015, 05:53:03 PM
That guy top right looks like he is straight out of Ostland.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 27, 2015, 09:32:44 AM
I like those henchman dudes!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 27, 2015, 03:23:21 PM
They really are nice. Good for the more rural regions of the Warhammer World. Mind you, considering all the different RW periods my figures come from, I reckon you can incorporate all sorts of RL historical types.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on April 27, 2015, 04:17:25 PM
There is no warhammer world, Chaos consumed it all!!!!!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 27, 2015, 04:24:51 PM
That happens sometime in the high fantasy future. For me, at least.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 27, 2015, 06:03:05 PM
That happens sometime in the high fantasy future. For me, at least.

There will always be an Empire and an Old World. At least at my gaming table.  :smile2:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 28, 2015, 03:39:29 AM
I like those. I wonder if they will mix well with GW militia/Mordheim bits.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 28, 2015, 08:15:20 AM
I like the paint job a lot - good choice of colours, like faded natural dyes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 28, 2015, 12:25:20 PM
There are some better pictures here.

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.be/search/label/Frostgrave

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on April 29, 2015, 03:15:51 PM
I like those. I wonder if they will mix well with GW militia/Mordheim bits.

They are supposed to scale well with the fireforge plastic medieval infantry, as they are sculpted by the same person.  I have some of the fireforge medieval troops, they are a bit finer in scale than the GW militia, but I do think you can mix them fairly well.  The GW militia are pretty bulky to begin with.  I would suggest the fireforge foot troops scale fairly well with the 5/6th ed plastic empire halberdiers/swordsmen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on April 29, 2015, 04:13:37 PM
There is no warhammer world, Chaos consumed it all!!!!!!

Some people are still in Egypt
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on April 30, 2015, 10:31:45 AM
Halfling knight?

http://torgaming.co.uk/2015/04/kapolop-knights/

(https://torgaming.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Knight-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on April 30, 2015, 10:33:44 AM
Angry chickens! Interesting.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on April 30, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
I love those little guys, very much remind me of the goblins in labyrinth.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 09, 2015, 10:47:17 AM
More pics of the Frostgrave stuff.

Artwork for the plastics henchmen box.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11180325_1046819465346955_5592209318159692439_n.jpg?oh=2ee849d0514d60d9399107cd0e18a842&oe=56084FF3&__gda__=1443413913_d086877f3d76f8eabc134baa52b5dd5a)


Quote
What is the Frostgrave Soldiers box set all about?
 This is a set of 20 plastic 28mm sized figures. Their role in the game is to accompany the Wizards into the frozen city, fight opponents and grab treasure. The player designs his own band of followers, and arms them as they wish. So our box set is designed to allow you to do that. In the box there are 4 'frames' of plastic. Each frame has:
 5 bodies
 10 heads
 25 different arms/ weapons
 2 shields
 + selection of bags & equipment.
 This means you can make 100's of unique figures, no two wizards band should ever be the same.

Group shot

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/t31.0-8/s720x720/11059594_1046820932013475_8430756109213526710_o.png)

Apparently there will also be some extra metal figures.

Quote
There are also a selection of 'specialist' soldiers a wizard can recruit in Frostgrave, each with their own abilities, but cost a bit more to 'employ'. We have eight metal models of these ready for the launch of the game, the two below are the Thief and the Barbarian that Mark Copplestone has made for the range.

(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10354587_1046822785346623_2274493343607946808_n.png?oh=e1877bc5ac7099f4b344b82a07339406&oe=56081DCE)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 09, 2015, 12:53:12 PM
This would be much more interesting if it wasn't for the winter theme. I really dislike their clothing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sig on May 09, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
I like the concept with these but something just feels off about the stance and proportions.. it's like they're all about to bust out some heavy squats at the gym. They also seem too heavy somehow. But it's a really good idea.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 09, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
I'm not convinced by the barbarian, but the general plastic ones look suitably covered in layers of clothing for a 'frosted' winter setting.

It is also some sort of 'composite' picture made up from the greens I posted earlier, so I think I will wait until I have seen the sprues, and maybe some actual 28mm scale figures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 09, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
That female (Empire) greatsword from Hasslefree miniatures is now available in metal:

http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=maika-von-ostwald~hfh094&category=fantasy-%26%0D%0Asteampunk~fantasy-humans

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFH094%20Maika%20von%20Ostwald%20composite.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 09, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
I think the plastics look very nice. I'm normally a huge Copplestone fan, but I'm not as fond of the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser looking metal guys.

Love the Hasslefree figure too. I would like to get one or two if I get a chance.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 15, 2015, 07:21:42 PM
Looks like Warlord Games are finally getting around to releasing those wonderful Arsenal Miniatures knights of Malta figures, which would make perfect Estalians:

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/WGP-18-WoR-Infantry-Regiment-c_1024x1024.jpg?v=1431591973)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/WGP-18-WoR-Infantry-Regiment-b_1024x1024.jpg?v=1431591972)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warhammer-Weib on May 18, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
I need an alternative for a GW vermin lord. Any suggestions where I could get one or what I could use to kitbash one?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 21, 2015, 05:24:56 PM
Finally, Kev΄s Orchs are back: http://www.warmongerminiatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 21, 2015, 05:45:28 PM
Finally, Kev΄s Orchs are back: http://www.warmongerminiatures.com/

Free postage, too!

Haha, I just came here to post that too! 15 min. too late, I see.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 21, 2015, 07:51:49 PM
The early Orch gets the can of worms.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on May 22, 2015, 01:15:01 PM
Finally, Kev΄s Orchs are back: http://www.warmongerminiatures.com/

Free postage, too!

Haha, I just came here to post that too! 15 min. too late, I see.

They seem very expensive or is the price per box?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on May 22, 2015, 03:01:22 PM
They are expensive, though to be honest they have always been.  Looks like they have reduced the price a bit though... before the website was up and running you could order them via phone/email and they were about 9GBP each.

Keep in mind that these figures are quite hefty.  The larger, ogre characters are easily 2 if not 3 times the volume of metal as a standard human figure.

That, and this is Foundry... not exactly a discount seller.  But they will have bulk discounts for larger orders.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 22, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
Yes, that's why the free worldwide postage seemed exciting. Because without that, the cost of getting them here in the US is even more insane.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 22, 2015, 04:39:02 PM
Bugger !
I paid £9 at the show, so no postage involved at all.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 22, 2015, 05:37:17 PM
Damn you english and your closeness to England!

Well, I've got all the ones put up on sale anyway. Looking forward to the new sculpts though...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 24, 2015, 05:20:04 PM
Looks like Warlord Games are finally getting around to releasing those wonderful Arsenal Miniatures knights of Malta figures, which would make perfect Estalians:

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/WGP-18-WoR-Infantry-Regiment-c_1024x1024.jpg?v=1431591973)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0288/8306/products/WGP-18-WoR-Infantry-Regiment-b_1024x1024.jpg?v=1431591972)

This reminds me of ... Eureka's Spanish and Portuguese conquistador figures.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on May 24, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
I prefer the longer standard poles of the older and some of the newer Empire stuff, but those are great pseudo-Estalians if you're desperate to play a DoW army using either the 5th Ed. DoW book, or the fan-made stuff posted over on the WarhammerFantasyBattleReporter forum.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 24, 2015, 08:56:54 PM
The fanmade DoW-book is wonderful, a really well-balanced thing which I use extensively. I already have enough pike though....ah, 50 more couldn't hurt, but I think that will be the Pro Gloria/Warlord landsknechts. Link to the latest Dow: http://warhammerarmiesproject.blogspot.se/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 24, 2015, 09:13:11 PM
I really wish they included a date or version number in their PDF files. How do we know if we have the current versions?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on May 24, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
I really wish they included a date or version number in their PDF files. How do we know if we have the current versions?
You could try saving the file to your Downloads folder and then comparing the two?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 25, 2015, 04:38:37 AM
I really wish they included a date or version number in their PDF files. How do we know if we have the current versions?

Follow my link. That guy writes these books, he does of course have the latest version.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 12, 2015, 12:37:27 AM
Just saw this upcoming Westfalia figure at LAF

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/babe_01)

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/babe_02)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 12, 2015, 12:53:25 AM
By Michael Anderson who is doing the Halflings for that range as well. He also did the Demigrifs for GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 12, 2015, 01:11:57 AM
I've got the resin (pre-release?) halfling and it's awesome. The only reason I haven't painted it up yet is that I'm indecisive about picking which weapon to give him. Looking forward to this whole range.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 12, 2015, 01:27:04 AM
Yes, the guy in the center. I've got him to, but in my case I suck at painting so he remains grey. The guy on the right is also by Michael Anderson. The one armed metal chap on the left is from our own White Knight's secret empire project.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a5/97/b0/a597b04ea17e05619aa25458a610eb75.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 12, 2015, 01:32:10 AM
I need that figure on the right. Where is it from?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 12, 2015, 01:53:27 AM
He was part of a project that Michael tried to get started at GW a number of years ago. There are a few unreleased copies of some of of the sculpts floating around. This one exists in at least four variants. I have seen pictures of two other versions. As far as I know the one above is the only copy in existence. There should also be a fourth version holding the beer stein and some other weapon, but I haven't seen it.

Here are the two variants I have seen. Unfortunately I don't own either, but if anybody does, send me a pm and I'll make you an offer.

(http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=197624&d=1406653021)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d103/DarrenLatham/PICT0099.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 12, 2015, 02:02:03 AM
Ah, that's why he seemed familiar. I've seen the one on bottom. All of them should be manufactured, they're really great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 12, 2015, 02:07:07 AM
Here are two more. I had a chance to buy these guys once but we couldn't agree on a price. I agree they need to be made, but my understanding is that they never will be.  :eusa_wall: GW has spoken.

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11180066_10206898624930000_1583334598_n.jpg?oh=e61e98360f35c16d5d5432c70877e568&oe=557C9E25)

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/11164093_10206898624889999_1093264058_n.jpg?oh=2a053049f78706424efee6311c112f50&oe=557C6EE4)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Timbor on June 13, 2015, 01:45:17 AM
Those are about a thousand times better than almost all of the recent ET releases for Fantasy.  At least two thousand times better than the stupid khorne whiphammer dudes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on June 13, 2015, 06:35:01 AM
GW must be mad ... those halflings are the best I've ever seen. Very nice figures, full of character ... almost 'real'.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on June 13, 2015, 10:54:48 AM
Just saw this upcoming Westfalia figure at LAF

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/babe_01)

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/babe_02)

That one looks pretty nice. Would make for a cool champion mini.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 13, 2015, 02:44:25 PM
Another one by Michael Anderson.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 14, 2015, 02:25:39 PM
My daughter is watching My Little Pony and one of the characters, Discord, was giving a villainous speech about bringing a "Storm of Chaos."

https://youtu.be/l0vRDXUTMeI

Now we know whos really responsible. Made me think of these in a chaos army...


(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg42/Bergil/SLAP%20MINIS/Painted%20Pewter%20Ponies/SOP2GROUP2_zpsb76799e6.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/Bergil/media/SLAP%20MINIS/Painted%20Pewter%20Ponies/SOP2GROUP2_zpsb76799e6.jpg.html)


http://www.slapminis.com/pewter-ponies-24-c.asp
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 15, 2015, 05:51:33 PM
Just saw this upcoming Westfalia figure at LAF

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/babe_01)

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/babe_02)

That one looks pretty nice. Would make for a cool champion mini.

do you have a link? where and when will she be available?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 15, 2015, 06:44:14 PM


She's from Westfalia Miniatures. Not sure what the release schedule is. I believe there is a Kickstarter coming up

http://westfaliafantasybattles.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Westfaliafantasybattles

The Facebook page seems to get quicker updates & has more pics.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 15, 2015, 10:09:40 PM
I think they said the kickstarter is in August and she is do to be one of the freebies for participating.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on June 16, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
damn them! now i will have to participate!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 17, 2015, 03:00:05 AM
Yesterday I was trying to compile a list of alternate manufacturers for my own reference. This thread is great, but the links are scattered throughout over 100 pages now!

I was thinking maybe if someone (nudge nudge) might update the OP with a full list...? Or is there a better way to organize it?

Given the upcoming changes to and/or death of both WFB and the Empire as we know it, I'm not sure if this whole endeavor becomes more relevant or less relevant.

For what it's worth, below is the very small list I've started based on the requirements that they fantasy figures fitting the popular variants of the Empire aesthetics, or are generally late 15th through 16th century European figures.


Perry Miniatures
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/

Artizan
http://www.artizandesigns.com

Wargames Foundry
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/

White Knight
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/

Black Scorpion
https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/

The Assault Group
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/

Front Rank
http://www.frontrank.com/

Old Glory
http://www.oldglory25s.com/

Renegade
http://www.renegademiniatures.com/

Graven Images
http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/new_page_6.htm

Reaper
http://www.reapermini.com/

Hasslefree
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/

Eureka
http://eurekamin.com.au/

Warlord Games
http://www.warlordgames.com/

Sgt. Major (former Vendal figures)
http://www.sgmm.biz/

Westfalia Fantasy
http://westfaliafantasybattles.com/

Warmonger (former Foundry figures -- Kev Adams puff & slash fantasy)
http://www.warmongerminiatures.com/

Frostgrave
http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=195&page=1

Lead Adventure
http://www.lead-adventure.com/

Werewoolf Miniatures
http://stores.ebay.com/Werewoolf-EU

Brother Vinni
http://www.brother-vinni.com/

Raging Heroes
http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Mirliton (old Grenadier Fantasy Warriors)
http://www.mirliton.it

Avatars of War
http://www.avatars-of-war.com

Ral Partha Europe
http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/

Victoria Miniatures
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/

Tercio Creativo
http://tienda.terciocreativo.com

Gamezone Miniatures
http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com

Freebooters
http://www.freebooterminiatures.de
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 17, 2015, 03:48:19 AM
Yesterday I was trying to compile a list of alternate manufacturers for my own reference. This thread is great, but the links are scattered throughout over 100 pages now!

I was thinking maybe if someone (nudge nudge) might update the OP with a full list...? Or is there a better way to organize it?

Given the upcoming changes to and/or death of both WFB and the Empire as we know it, I'm not sure if this whole endeavor becomes more relevant or less relevant.

For what it's worth, below is the very small list I've started based on the requirements that they fantasy figures fitting the popular variants of the Empire aesthetics, or are generally late 15th through 16th century European figures.


Perry Miniatures
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/

Artizan
http://www.artizandesigns.com

Wargames Foundry
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/

White Knight
http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.com/

Black Scorpion
https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/

The Assault Group
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/

Front Rank
http://www.frontrank.com/

Old Glory
http://www.oldglory25s.com/

Renegade
http://www.renegademiniatures.com/

http://www.monolithdesigns.co.uk/new_page_6.htm

Reaper
http://www.reapermini.com/

Hasslefree
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/

Eureka
http://eurekamin.com.au/

Warlord Games
http://www.warlordgames.com/

Sgt. Major (former Vendal figures)
http://www.sgmm.biz/

Westfalia Fantasy
http://westfaliafantasybattles.com/

Warmonger (former Foundry figures -- Kev Adams puff & slash fantasy)
http://www.warmongerminiatures.com/

Frostgrave
http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=195&page=1

Lead Adventure
http://www.lead-adventure.com/

Hasslefree has one, Brother Vinni has several, Raging Heroes has a few, also Werewolf has some.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 17, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
Good call. Hasslefree was already in the list, so I added the other three to my previous post above.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on June 17, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
There also is Mirliton (mostly old Grenadier)
http://www.mirliton.it

Avatars of War (some with hunters and a warrior priest)
http://www.avatars-of-war.com

Ral Partha Europe
http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/
some nice minis in the Schwarze Auge series.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 18, 2015, 01:05:37 AM
Added those to the list above, too. I hadn't finished putting the list together, but I can't believe they weren't in the first draft!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on June 18, 2015, 08:32:06 AM
And some more.

Victoria Miniatures (nice noble)
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/

Tercio Creativo (bit more fantasy humans, spanish)
http://tienda.terciocreativo.com

Gamezone Miniatures  (fantasy, spanish)
http://www.gamezoneminiatures.com

Freebooters (fantasy pirates, a few have puff and slash)
http://www.freebooterminiatures.de
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 18, 2015, 05:55:32 PM
All added, thanks!

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 09, 2015, 10:30:17 AM
Just got my Frostgrave Nickstarter box delivered.

Minis look fabulous - both the metal sculpts and the plastic figures.

http://nstarmagazine.com/FROSTGRAVE.htm

http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=195&page=1

The problem will be I cannot do them justice with my painting skills ...........  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on July 09, 2015, 10:39:26 AM
will you upload some of your pictures?  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on July 09, 2015, 02:29:46 PM
Just got my Frostgrave Nickstarter box delivered.

Minis look fabulous - both the metal sculpts and the plastic figures.

http://nstarmagazine.com/FROSTGRAVE.htm

http://www.northstarfigures.com/list.php?man=195&page=1

The problem will be I cannot do them justice with my painting skills ...........  :engel:

20quid for 20 multi part plastic minis? I call this fair and compared the AoS pricing, it's almost free!

I will definitely get one box of those.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 16, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
those halflings on page 108 are awesome!

I love the sword and shield dude.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 16, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
The fanmade DoW-book is wonderful, a really well-balanced thing which I use extensively. I already have enough pike though....ah, 50 more couldn't hurt, but I think that will be the Pro Gloria/Warlord landsknechts. Link to the latest Dow: http://warhammerarmiesproject.blogspot.se/
How come no birdmen of catrazza, or galloper guns? or marksmen? is there a separate PDF?

edit: just found it!

do you find the RoR pdf balanced and used as well akbar?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 16, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
The fanmade DoW-book is wonderful, a really well-balanced thing which I use extensively. I already have enough pike though....ah, 50 more couldn't hurt, but I think that will be the Pro Gloria/Warlord landsknechts. Link to the latest Dow: http://warhammerarmiesproject.blogspot.se/
Thank you for providing this link. :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 16, 2015, 03:34:21 PM
On the topic of halflings, more previews of the Westfalia fantasy range...

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/dudes)

(http://westfaliaminiatures.com/preview/boss)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 16, 2015, 03:51:45 PM
I'm buying some of those!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 16, 2015, 04:22:01 PM
Wow!  Those look great!

My Averland River Regiment is based in the area just to the west of the Moot, and I hope to have an army to represent the hobbits that live there.  These figures are now on the list of items to buy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 16, 2015, 05:45:38 PM
Those hobbits are amazing!  :Ohmy:

I approve of the lack of shoes even on the full plate one. I hate it when people make shod hobbits - they just look like small humans then.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 16, 2015, 06:53:12 PM
I don't like halflings, but they are very well done indeed. But I found this on their facebook page, which is more to my liking:

https://www.facebook.com/Westfaliafantasybattles/photos/a.380892888763498.1073741829.380614622124658/384770351709085/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on July 16, 2015, 11:50:45 PM
Those hobbits are amazing!  :Ohmy:

I approve of the lack of shoes even on the full plate one. I hate it when people make shod hobbits - they just look like small humans then.
someone on their facebook asked the sculptor to put shoes on him, and the sculptor replied

"Nothing touches a halfmans feet except the earth beneath them! wink emoticon"
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 17, 2015, 02:25:31 PM
someone on their facebook asked the sculptor to put shoes on him, and the sculptor replied

"Nothing touches a halfmans feet except the earth beneath them! wink emoticon"

Ha! Excellent.  :::cheers:::

I definitely want to buy some.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 26, 2015, 01:24:06 AM
Still no news on the ex-ProGloria plastic Landsknechts. But hey ... it has only been 7 months so far.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on July 26, 2015, 03:50:11 PM
To be honest, as much as I want plastic ΄knechts, I was not that crazy about the ones Pro Gloria put forth. I΄d rather see them remade. On another note I'd really want Warlord to release the spanish cavalry from Arsenal, and somr proper gendarmes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on August 03, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
Frostgrave had  a booth at Gen Con in Indianapolis USA, but failed to bring any product aside from rulebooks.  No demo.  No cool diorama. No sale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on August 09, 2015, 10:43:42 PM
Still no news on the ex-ProGloria plastic Landsknechts. But hey ... it has only been 7 months so far.

Too bad...
I was really looking forward to see them released.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 10, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Frostgrave had  a booth at Gen Con in Indianapolis USA, but failed to bring any product aside from rulebooks.  No demo.  No cool diorama. No sale.
Not a smooth move, had they and they'd have done better than GW! :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sceleris on August 10, 2015, 05:29:26 PM
This is the Frostgrave sprue courtesy of Syphon

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oKGiB5EnsNQ/VWsQvxBo02I/AAAAAAAAvRU/3aFcvh5TUw8/s640/11235391_1056762757685959_1872826856521533021_n.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcxPDMmBLLQ/VWpV3mcSoGI/AAAAAAABoNY/0Sk7sL7X3_E/s1600/11351121_1056762644352637_673370055581035207_n.jpg
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on August 10, 2015, 08:09:34 PM
This is the Frostgrave sprue courtesy of Syphon

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oKGiB5EnsNQ/VWsQvxBo02I/AAAAAAAAvRU/3aFcvh5TUw8/s640/11235391_1056762757685959_1872826856521533021_n.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rcxPDMmBLLQ/VWpV3mcSoGI/AAAAAAABoNY/0Sk7sL7X3_E/s1600/11351121_1056762644352637_673370055581035207_n.jpg

20 to a box, for my English compatriots, on North Star that translates to a quid per mini.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 11, 2015, 04:55:34 PM
Not sure if this one has been posted previously, and their website is in Spanish, but here it is ...

http://menhirgames.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on August 11, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
Still no news on the ex-ProGloria plastic Landsknechts. But hey ... it has only been 7 months so far.

I emailed them a couple of months ago -


Lorenzo Pala
said 2 months ago
Good afternoon Richard.

Thank you for your interest in our models and I am sorry for the delay in answering you.

I'm afraid I don't know of any definite release dates for plastic landsknechts at this time, while I can confirm that we have released most of the metal range, with just a few more models to be released soon.

Our release schedule is constantly changing (and often at short notice) so the best thing to do is to keep watching our Newsletter, Facebook Page, and Website for any further news or information on the models you want.

I'm sorry I couldn't give a more definitive answer at this time - however, I hope to have helped.

Kind regards,

Lorenzo


Which didn't sound amazingly promising! Fingers crossed though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on August 11, 2015, 06:16:17 PM
damn, since pikes are actually a good unit in KOW i am really looking forward to these models. Was this communicated by warlord or pro gloria?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 11, 2015, 06:35:06 PM
And did Pro-Gloria make metal figures?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Westfalia on August 11, 2015, 07:33:06 PM
And did Pro-Gloria make metal figures?

Lots and lots.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Toro_Blanco on August 11, 2015, 07:38:19 PM
I'm correct in assuming these units are all the same scale as Warhammer, and thus would be fully compatible with my current forces?

There's some GREAT resources here.  I also stared a thread to discuss alternatives and 3D printing which has had some great suggestions come to light.  Thread here: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,50955.0.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on August 12, 2015, 08:28:00 PM
damn, since pikes are actually a good unit in KOW i am really looking forward to these models. Was this communicated by warlord or pro gloria?

Warlord. I had hoped to hear something positive, like we have sent the moulds for tooling but it will be a while. Still will invest if theyare released.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 12, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
I have heard that Warlord has decided that the Pro Gloria plastics are too expensive and that they will only produce a cut down version fewer bodies, fewer heads etc. There were originally ten bodies and thirty heads. A damn shame.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 12, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
I'm wondering why it could be too expensive.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 12, 2015, 11:14:25 PM
My understanding is that the plastic molds are incredibly expensive. That the money that Pro Gloria was requesting in its KS was about a third of what was needed. Apparently every bit adds to the expense.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 12, 2015, 11:25:50 PM
Plastic models are hella expensive - steel molds, cut by machine, hand rolled by virgins etc. etc.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: arjunstc on August 13, 2015, 12:44:00 AM
Plastic models are hella expensive ... hand rolled by virgins etc. etc.

Surely those can't be hard to find among wargamers?  :?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 13, 2015, 01:13:11 AM
Plastic models are hella expensive ... hand rolled by virgins etc. etc.

Surely those can't be hard to find among wargamers?  :?

You really don't want to see what comes out of the molds if you offer Slaanesh the wrong kind of virgins.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 13, 2015, 01:54:00 PM


Plastic Frostgrave cultists due out in November!

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11895939_1098993376796230_8768549501321850544_n.jpg?oh=eb29c89edd4e71bc32c5eaa1e527e683&oe=5641238C)





Plastic models are hella expensive ... hand rolled by virgins etc. etc.

Surely those can't be hard to find among wargamers?  :?

You really don't want to see what comes out of the molds if you offer Slaanesh the wrong kind of virgins.

Like these molds? (Possible NSFW for some people.)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1473872769598664&set=a.1376456282673647.1073741827.100009278643005&type=1&pnref=story

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on August 13, 2015, 02:57:59 PM
I have heard that Warlord has decided that the Pro Gloria plastics are too expensive and that they will only produce a cut down version fewer bodies, fewer heads etc. There were originally ten bodies and thirty heads. A damn shame.


http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/



I still think that If they went to Kickstarter instead of indiegogo and did some better marketing they would have made it.
I didn't even wanted pikemen back then, I just backed to be supportive, now thanks to AoW I NEED pikemen. my obsessive-compulsive disoreder requires it
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 13, 2015, 02:59:36 PM


Plastic Frostgrave cultists due out in November!

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11895939_1098993376796230_8768549501321850544_n.jpg?oh=eb29c89edd4e71bc32c5eaa1e527e683&oe=5641238C)








Plastic models are hella expensive ... hand rolled by virgins etc. etc.

Surely those can't be hard to find among wargamers?  :?

You really don't want to see what comes out of the molds if you offer Slaanesh the wrong kind of virgins.

Like these molds? (Possible NSFW for some people.)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1473872769598664&set=a.1376456282673647.1073741827.100009278643005&type=1&pnref=story

No, those with a 45 degree bend in them and a few spikes bits.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 21, 2015, 09:05:12 PM
black cat bases have just emailed me saying theyve dispatched my order.

Which was about a year and a half ago!!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 21, 2015, 09:07:22 PM
Good grief! What did you order?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 21, 2015, 10:03:18 PM
some chickens!

they were going to be razorwing flocks in Deldar.

Don't need them now because GW nerfed them to oblivion.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 21, 2015, 10:07:09 PM
Kislev Hussar's riding demigriffs from Werewoolf miniatures.

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/1200x/ab/52/ad/ab52adf7e7702684df60335aed4d30da.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 22, 2015, 12:02:15 AM
Those figures look good, how much do they cost?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 22, 2015, 12:55:03 AM
Werewoolf hasn't said, but they sell all their stuff on eBay and usually for a reasonable price. They also previewed a new imperial ogre that looks quite nice. You can follow them on Facebook as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 24, 2015, 05:55:02 AM
I really like the look of the Werewoolf figures, and love the idea of getting a bunch of bodies to make use of all of the extra State Troop arms & heads that I've got. But at $4 each for just the bodies, they're a little too pricy for rank & file figures for me. I'd just as soon get figures from Artizan, Perry, and wait on the Pro-Gloria/Warlord landsknechts. It would be great if they did bulk/unit deals at better prices.

Speaking of expensive figures, I was looking through the Warmahordes page and found some more beautiful figures. At some point, I think I'd like to get this guy for my Undeadish project.

(https://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/file/view/lord_feast.jpg/32362929/lord_feast.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 24, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
I really like the look of the Werewoolf figures, and love the idea of getting a bunch of bodies to make use of all of the extra State Troop arms & heads that I've got. But at $4 each for just the bodies, they're a little too pricy for rank & file figures for me. I'd just as soon get figures from Artizan, Perry, and wait on the Pro-Gloria/Warlord landsknechts. It would be great if they did bulk/unit deals at better prices.

Speaking of expensive figures, I was looking through the Warmahordes page and found some more beautiful figures. At some point, I think I'd like to get this guy for my Undeadish project.

(https://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/file/view/lord_feast.jpg/32362929/lord_feast.jpg)

Yes, he would be perfect for that project. Also a very cool Frostgrave necromancer.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 24, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
wow. George Martin is gonna sue their ass.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 24, 2015, 09:17:06 PM
On what basis?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 24, 2015, 09:24:46 PM
A round one?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 24, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
On what basis?

People die during the game. GRRM has a very good case that is his trademark.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 24, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
But he stole that idea from Tolkien!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Toro_Blanco on August 24, 2015, 10:32:28 PM
On what basis?

People die during the game. GRRM has a very good case that is his trademark.

In that case, AoS should be a damned jackpot for him; GW killed off 30 years worth of beloved characters and hasn't bothered to finish writing their new story while telling it.  That's two trademarks for the price of one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: knightofthelance on August 24, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
If GW were to die before they finish AoS I don't think I'd be all that sad...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on August 24, 2015, 10:41:46 PM
I would be sad if they "died" before they realized the error of their ways and went back to live up to their potential.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on August 24, 2015, 11:28:55 PM
I would be sad if they "died" before they realized the error of their ways and went back to live up to their potential.

Warhammer Fantasy Battle really did (does) have lots of potential. So much of it unrealised, but always possible.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: knightofthelance on August 24, 2015, 11:43:55 PM
Yes. I'm just finding the AoS fluff to be mostly a story better left untold. To be fair I haven't read the latest bit, but the beginning wasn't enough to catch my interest.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 25, 2015, 01:31:08 AM
Wouldn't GW sue GRRM instead?  They've been at the whole dying protagonists,  feuding nations, surprise backstabs, knights in shining armor, encroaching hordes of undeath thing way before him. (I think the novel "Runefang" is a good sum up really)

Anyway, that warmahordes figure is really nice. The horns could use a touch-up though.

The  werewolf miniatures are top notch. :::cheers:::

Side query,  is there any models out there with feathered wide-brimmed hats? (Like something out of the three musketeers)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on August 25, 2015, 01:34:44 AM
I saw some Dwarf Musketeers just recently. Can't remember where.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Baron von Klatz on August 25, 2015, 01:43:16 AM
I think I saw those models as well, I think they're way too small though. I think that model line had something to do with the man in the iron mask. :?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 25, 2015, 09:27:57 AM
On what basis?
that's cold hands, surely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 25, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
But he stole that idea from Tolkien!
:icon_lol:  One one of these days you're going to catch me with coffee in my mouth while I'm reading one of your posts. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 25, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
If GW were to die before they finish AoS I don't think I'd be all that sad...
I would be sad if they "died" before they realized the error of their ways and went back to live up to their potential.
Warhammer Fantasy Battle really did (does) have lots of potential. So much of it unrealised, but always possible.
Since this is the "Other Maufacturers" thread, I'm going to reply to this in a different thread ...  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on August 25, 2015, 02:39:17 PM
I like this guy from Otherworld miniatures:

(http://otherworldminiatures.co.uk/figures/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/HH6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on August 25, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
That must be one of those really big Argos catalogues. He's pointing at what he wants, but tbh, I think he's got enough stuff as it is. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on August 25, 2015, 03:04:07 PM
Is Argos still a thing?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 25, 2015, 09:08:22 PM
(https://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/file/view/lord_feast.jpg/32362929/lord_feast.jpg)


I actually bought this figure today on one of my very rare trips to the FLGS. (I desperately needed a bottle of frequently used paint.) Now that I'm home and have it out of the package, I've got mixed feelings about it.

The sculpt is very nice, and he's pretty big. But he comes in 7 pieces, many of which are too small to pin, have only a small area to glue, and I imagine will break off easily if actually used for gaming. I get why some of the pieces are separate, but not others. I've been in the hobby a long time, and painted a lot of figures. My experience with sculpting, molding and casting is admittedly limited, but I really think this could have been done in just 3 or 4 pieces, with much better attachment joints. I was really looking forward to doing this figure next, but now that the pieces are on my desk, I'm not sure I've got the enthusiasm to figure out how to put the thing together in a manner that will hopefully resist breaking.

If/when I can work up the motivation to work on this, I think I will remove the sword (half of which is one of the separate pieces anyway) and replace it with a spear. Seems like a more appropriate weapon for a horned huntsman archetype.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on August 25, 2015, 09:49:14 PM
I was gonna buy that, thanks for telling me its in 7 pieces.

#fuckno
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on August 26, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
That must be one of those really big Argos catalogues. He's pointing at what he wants, but tbh, I think he's got enough stuff as it is.

You mean, as Bill Bailey put it, the Laminated Book of Tears?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 10, 2015, 08:34:46 PM
I have heard that Warlord has decided that the Pro Gloria plastics are too expensive and that they will only produce a cut down version fewer bodies, fewer heads etc. There were originally ten bodies and thirty heads. A damn shame.

Oh, that's quite a shame. I was really looking forward to them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 10, 2015, 09:28:36 PM
I have heard that Warlord has decided that the Pro Gloria plastics are too expensive and that they will only produce a cut down version fewer bodies, fewer heads etc. There were originally ten bodies and thirty heads. A damn shame.

Oh, that's quite a shame. I was really looking forward to them.

So was I. They would have been useful for Frostgrave as well as Warhammer. I hope they will change their minds, but I suspect that AOS has made their release even less likely. I asked about them on the Warlord forums and the silence was deafening. Still, perhaps if we all headed over and started demanding answers they might decide there was a market.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 10, 2015, 09:36:58 PM
Yeah, I think I will drop by there tomorrow and at least ask for some kind of status update. Still, if they do produce a plastic kit it could be easily kitbashed with a lot of other plastic kits and I wouldn't mind that. I'm mostly annoyed by the lack of information about anything since it kinda put my plans on hold.

At this point I might just end up buying a lot of metal landsknecht from Wargames Foundry instead because I'm getting the itch to paint.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on September 10, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
(Checks wife is looking other way) I would take five grand out of premium bonds and invest them in the moulds rather than see the project die so will be annoyed if warlord can the project rather than give it  good go on kickstarter
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 10, 2015, 10:02:33 PM
Yeah, I think I will drop by there tomorrow and at least ask for some kind of status update. Still, if they do produce a plastic kit it could be easily kitbashed with a lot of other plastic kits and I wouldn't mind that. I'm mostly annoyed by the lack of information about anything since it kinda put my plans on hold.

At this point I might just end up buying a lot of metal landsknecht from Wargames Foundry instead because I'm getting the itch to paint.

Kit bashing was a big part of my plans to.

I posted on the Pro Gloria guys facebook page. He was supposedly getting a consulting job with Warlord as part of the buyout. If he responds I will post here.

I will head over to Warlord and post as well. If you get there first I will just post on your thread.

(Checks wife is looking other way) I would take five grand out of premium bonds and invest them in the moulds rather than see the project die so will be annoyed if warlord can the project rather than give it  good go on kickstarter

Yeah, there may not have been enough of us to make the project happen, but I think those of us that were on board wanted this project to succeed pretty badly.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 10, 2015, 10:19:54 PM
I mostly want the plastic kits because I want to use historical minis such as the Perry knights and I have grow fond of the more realistic look. Even though the Empire models are mostly nice, the heroic scale clashes quite badly when put next to proper 28mm scale.

The GW prices is also a big reason.

I also have to wait for my account to be activated so you might as well create a thread and I will show up to post in it.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 10, 2015, 10:26:14 PM
Will do, I'm the Red Graf there as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 10, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
I have heard that Warlord has decided that the Pro Gloria plastics are too expensive and that they will only produce a cut down version fewer bodies, fewer heads etc. There were originally ten bodies and thirty heads. A damn shame.

Oh, that's quite a shame. I was really looking forward to them.


I would really love to see the full kit released, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Luckily I've got plenty to keep me busy painting while I wait for them to be released.

I would also really love to see a set of plastic gendarmes as well. Was there ever any discussion of that possibility, either under Pro Gloria or Warlord?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 10, 2015, 11:21:15 PM
I have heard that Warlord has decided that the Pro Gloria plastics are too expensive and that they will only produce a cut down version fewer bodies, fewer heads etc. There were originally ten bodies and thirty heads. A damn shame.

Oh, that's quite a shame. I was really looking forward to them.

I would really love to see the full kit released, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Luckily I've got plenty to keep me busy painting while I wait for them to be released.

I would also really love to see a set of plastic gendarmes as well. Was there ever any discussion of that possibility, either under Pro Gloria or Warlord?

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/946052_394707100646682_2087060324_n.jpg?oh=0c5b245f6cb2b38320f368dd0e6f61b5&oe=56A942C7)

Pro Gloria was working on Gendarmes, I don't think they were plastic. No idea what happened to them. I have kicked around the idea of commisioning some plain gothic barded warhorses of the same scale as the latest Empire War Alter horses, but I was going to have them made in resin. Still not sure how many I could sell.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 11, 2015, 12:02:45 AM
Buy a commercial license on pre-sculpted horses, then add armour?

http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/horses.htm



I like the design of the Foundry gendarmes, but I wish the horses were a little larger.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 11, 2015, 12:09:38 AM
Buy a commercial license on pre-sculpted horses, then add armour?

http://www.ebobminiatures.com/products/horses.htm



I like the design of the Foundry gendarmes, but I wish the horses were a little larger.

If I do it I am going to do it from the ground up. Five new sculpts from a sculptor I really like. I have talked to Michael Anderson about doing the sculpts and he is willing, but backed up until some time next year.

The Foundry guys were nice but small. I mixed two in with my old metal pistoliers. On GW horses you couldn't tell the difference, but I would hate to see them on the new outrider horses. They would look like hobbit knights.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 11, 2015, 12:11:02 AM
So what are their scale like compared to the Perry plastic knights?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 11, 2015, 12:43:32 AM
So what are their scale like compared to the Perry plastic knights?

You mean the Foundry guys? Like this.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/02/e7/5f02e78bd9dfdb0dcb2aa0e41be71ef4.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 11, 2015, 05:52:31 AM
I'll have to get a few of these for future warrior priests of Manann.

(https://www.crocodilegames.com/content/storeImg/WGO-102b.jpg)

 https://www.crocodilegames.com/store/itemDetail.cfm?prodID=528&catID=36

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 11, 2015, 09:02:22 AM
So what are their scale like compared to the Perry plastic knights?

You mean the Foundry guys? Like this.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/02/e7/5f02e78bd9dfdb0dcb2aa0e41be71ef4.jpg)

Yeah, I think those are the ones. Seems like a good match in scale.

Also, I made my post over at the Warlord Games forum. Maybe someone over there will read the thread?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Westfalia on September 13, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
I have serious 28mm horse masters and I'd be happy to pass them on to you for a minimal fee or possibly reselling rights of what you're planning to do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 14, 2015, 06:56:45 PM
Well, after sending of an email to Warlord Games I was told that they are still planning on releasing the plastic landsknecht, they just don't seem to have a schedule for them.

Quote
I can confirm that there are plans to release the plastic Landsknechts.. the models are simply too nice not to release them... but unfortunately this is as far as I know at the moment, there are no certain release dates set yet.

Guess we might find something out next year then and I will be buying some metal ones in the meantime.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 16, 2015, 05:17:20 AM
Black Cat Bases, your source for...


...Crazy Cat Lady...

(http://blackcatbases.com/bmz_cache/9/93cc80b496b2913f32b2d4b1b305e1cf.image.262x300.jpg)

http://blackcatbases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=437_457&products_id=2169


...Chaos Toilets...


(http://blackcatbases.com/bmz_cache/f/ffbee507d5b3ac31a6db97536115d708.image.277x300.jpg)

http://blackcatbases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=437_604&products_id=3270


...and other hard to find miniatures.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on September 16, 2015, 06:57:16 AM
They have an excellent pirate range though !


But I think they went out of business ?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on September 16, 2015, 07:30:38 AM
The guy who runs it seems to have a serious illness. It can take months for him to process your order and only after some serious pushing.
My order from half a year ago was processed only after I filed a claim with paypal.
I think he tries his best but he's not very reliable.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 16, 2015, 09:23:40 PM
I'm not sure it's a 'he'.
When they were at shows it was fronted by a lady - and the name Jo has been used in connection with them and that could be either male or female.
There was a report of the male regularly attending a local club gaming night.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 22, 2015, 11:10:18 PM
Imperial otter!

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/548/921/a5cb4b75c15ce9393ee1f378a5b2761b_original.jpg?v=1442959580&w=639&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=2a34e9a23761276afbaf4ea63d4da3cc)

Currently kickstartering away.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/oathsworn/burrows-and-badgers-freelances-anthro-animal-minia
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 23, 2015, 12:13:17 AM
Bummer that their site is closed currently.  can't even see the previous products ...

http://www.oathswornminiatures.co.uk/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 23, 2015, 01:33:56 AM
Maybe you otter try again later.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: warhammerlord_soth on September 23, 2015, 08:58:08 AM
Or maybe you can find it on an otter site.... :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on September 23, 2015, 10:41:22 AM
I have inadvertently incited puns!  :ph34r:

I really like otter landsnecht, and some of the other animal people are good too. I asked about the possibility of a wombat, but apparently it would be too large.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 23, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
If I only had an otter link to the otter site, then I'd otter try again. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 30, 2015, 06:01:16 PM
Just had an email from Foundry and they have set up a new website for all the miniatures produced 2006 - 2012 when 'Family Ansell' wasn't involved.

http://www.castingroomminiatures.com/

Free delivery for the rest of this year and minis seem to work out at £2.00 each for infantry, £4 for cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on September 30, 2015, 06:12:12 PM
Just had an email from Foundry and they have set up a new website for all the miniatures produced 2006 - 2012 when 'Family Ansell' wasn't involved.

http://www.castingroomminiatures.com/

Free delivery for the rest of this year and minis seem to work out at £2.00 each for infantry, £4 for cavalry.

Was this during the period when they did the elves? I always wanted the Bronwen female fighter.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 30, 2015, 06:13:42 PM
Oh, cool. I might pick up some greatswords then.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 30, 2015, 07:43:34 PM
Just had an email from Foundry and they have set up a new website for all the miniatures produced 2006 - 2012 when 'Family Ansell' wasn't involved.

So... they created a new company to sell the stuff that they don't want to be associated with their main, "premium" brand? Good move, I guess. Maybe they can make some money off of those ranges, but not dilute the Foundry name with sculpts that don't measure up to their previous standards.


Free delivery for the rest of this year and minis seem to work out at £2.00 each for infantry, £4 for cavalry.

Unfortunately too much for those sculpts, in my opinion. Many of them look outdated. I really don't think they can compete in the current market. The figures I was looking at -- medievals, renaissance, undead, halflings, and a quick browse through some of the other fantasy ranges -- all have much better alternatives at that price. Yes, I realize that's subjective to a certain extent. But compare the medievals to those from Perry Miniatures or Front Rank, or the renaissance compared to Artisan or even Foundry's own Perry-sculpted landsknechts, etc.

Although, to be fair, I would be curious to see some of those figures painted by other people. They may be suffering a bit of the GW thing where some of the studio paint jobs just don't sell the figures well. Not sure. Some of the poses and proportions are.... questionable.


I hate feeling like I'm picking on Foundry again, but it's just disappointing. They have/had some of the best figures around. Although it seems like they're trying to get back on track, is also seems like they keep fumbling with just about everything... new sculpts, availability of some of the ranges, the web site(s) & marketing, pricing/packaging, etc.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: thorimm on September 30, 2015, 07:45:01 PM
Those Giant Trolls though, expensive, but they look amazing.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 30, 2015, 07:55:35 PM
Those Giant Trolls though, expensive, but they look amazing.  :ph34r:

Ah, good call. I had meant to mention that I do like some of the figures, like the trolls. As far as price, I think that would depend on how large they are.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 02, 2015, 07:09:22 AM
Ooh I  like these.  :biggriin:

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/t31.0-8/12091245_1069459173073406_2471450032047485886_o.jpg)

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/src/thumbs/c6db11a71571f6269d8aa754fc40212f_720x480.jpg)
Fireforge Games

Not sure if these are the same kit or separate.
I had heard Crusader Archers was the new set, and thought it was a plastic one.

My first reaction was different heads and bits so you could make them for different themes, but then I couldn't see that the bodies were the same.
The top picture appeared on FB and it seems they are resin, which is what they have done the recent Mongol heavy cavalry in..
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Westfalia on October 02, 2015, 07:33:16 AM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/t31.0-8/12091245_1069459173073406_2471450032047485886_o.jpg)

*Scratches the 'armies of Arabia' stretch goal from his planned campaign*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 02, 2015, 10:16:07 AM
I've got a couple of boxes for that project already, buried under other boxes under my office worktops.   :biggriin:

When I say boxes I mean Really Useful 4L (A4+ size) boxes with two 15 compartment craft trays.

(http://www.reallyusefulproducts.co.uk/images/onlineshop/rub/fullsize/b04_0litreHobbyBox.jpg)

Each compartment will take 8-10 infantry figures and when I say "a couple" I mean 4, and that's the metals, because I bought some of the Gripping Beast plastics too.

Artizan Moors and Andalusians, Black Tree Saracens and Warriors of Islam, Perrys Crusades, Gripping Beast metals, Magister Militum, Musketeer Caliphates, and some Crusader ..................

I'm just a hopeless addict ........
 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on October 02, 2015, 10:42:32 AM
http://www.castingroomminiatures.com/

Hey, there's a robot bull. I feel like I need one of those. Not sure if I like this one or not though.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0976/0688/products/WG434_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1442063228)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 02, 2015, 10:58:18 AM
Wasn't there someone who had that as the mount of an engineer around these parts?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 03, 2015, 08:08:31 AM
Just had an email from Foundry and they have set up a new website for all the miniatures produced 2006 - 2012 when 'Family Ansell' wasn't involved.

http://www.castingroomminiatures.com/

Strange that they put the Goblins here. Why not on Warmonger?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2015, 05:59:42 PM
Just had an email from Foundry and they have set up a new website for all the miniatures produced 2006 - 2012 when 'Family Ansell' wasn't involved.

http://www.castingroomminiatures.com/

Strange that they put the Goblins here. Why not on Warmonger?

I haven't looked at them, but I suspect that they're not Kev's.
Warmonger was supposed to be all Kev's old minis - so before 2006 - and new ones he/they is/are sculpting now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on October 03, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
No, I don't think they are Kevins either, but they make the cut for quality fantasy. And since they are not releasing the old dwarfs in Casting Room, you might expect them to show up on Warmonger, then why not the Goblins . Ah well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 08, 2015, 10:26:11 PM
Has anyone bought heads from puppetswar by any chance? They have some interesting sets and I was wondering how well they would fit on Empire minis.

Example: http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=474
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on October 09, 2015, 03:08:46 AM
Their Arabian heads attached to flagellants are great.

(https://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/47a4dd06b3127cce98548e5518f200000035110AbOXDRkzbMmWA)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 09, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
Just stumbled across Black Chapel Miniatures. How have these guys not been flooded with CanD letters?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 09, 2015, 11:56:58 AM
Link?  Not that I can't google it, but sometimes us kids these days can get lazy. :icon_wink: :icon_lol:

And Von Kurst ... those heads look very good!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 09, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
Lazy GP.

This is the page of their human faction called Altreich:
http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich)

Take for instance their warrior priest.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/183-large_default/warrior-priest.jpg)

One of their captains.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/63-large_default/capitan.jpg)

While I realize it's hard to copyright a setting, the feel of these humans are incredibly similiar to that of our own beloved hobby.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 09, 2015, 03:30:36 PM
Lazy GP.

This is the page of their human faction called Altreich:
http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich)

Take for instance their warrior priest.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/183-large_default/warrior-priest.jpg)

One of their captains.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/63-large_default/capitan.jpg)

While I realize it's hard to copyright a setting, the feel of these humans are incredibly similiar to that of our own beloved hobby.

Which is in turn based on European History. It is kind of hard to claim history is your intellectual property unless you are god.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on October 09, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
And they are metal!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 09, 2015, 10:36:51 PM
Lazy GP.

This is the page of their human faction called Altreich:
http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich)

Take for instance their warrior priest.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/183-large_default/warrior-priest.jpg)

One of their captains.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/63-large_default/capitan.jpg)

While I realize it's hard to copyright a setting, the feel of these humans are incredibly similiar to that of our own beloved hobby.

Which is in turn based on European History. It is kind of hard to claim history is your intellectual property unless you are god.
.

Who do you think I am..?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 09, 2015, 10:50:14 PM
Syphon?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 10, 2015, 10:16:34 AM
Oh, this is is pretty great. I wanted an engineer, but I was not entierly fond of many of the options I had.

(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/59-thickbox_default/engineer-altreich.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 10, 2015, 02:27:26 PM
Syphon?

That pretentious prick! You may call me SuperKamiSyphon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 10, 2015, 02:48:35 PM
Does he manufacture other miniatures? :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 10, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
Lazy GP.

This is the page of their human faction called Altreich:
http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich (http://blackchapelminiatures.com/en/7-altreich)

Take for instance their warrior priest.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/183-large_default/warrior-priest.jpg)

One of their captains.
(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/63-large_default/capitan.jpg)

While I realize it's hard to copyright a setting, the feel of these humans are incredibly similiar to that of our own beloved hobby.

Which is in turn based on European History. It is kind of hard to claim history is your intellectual property unless you are god.
.

Who do you think I am..?

I'm an Agnostic actually, but if absolutely forced to choose a deity I would go for Aphrodite. If you're her then pictures or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 10, 2015, 09:00:55 PM
Fine.

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11259243_718771794901958_518139287_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 10, 2015, 09:07:10 PM
Remember ... this thread is for Other Manufacturers' figures, and the other stuff might be ok for the Back Table. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 10, 2015, 09:10:27 PM
Syphon may perhaps be confusing Aphrodite with what brought her froth...euh... forth..
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 10, 2015, 09:18:45 PM
I'm seeing lot's of confusion currently. :icon_wink:

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 11, 2015, 12:46:42 AM
Well, the birth of Aphrodite was some kind of other manufacturing than the standard method if that counts for something.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 11, 2015, 12:55:25 AM
I have never really known this thread to be that tightly controlled as to topic.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 11, 2015, 03:23:04 AM
Well, the birth of Aphrodite was some kind of other manufacturing than the standard method if that counts for something.
:icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 11, 2015, 06:01:16 AM
I wonder if the hand is giving a hint...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 13, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
Two new female Warrior Priestesses out today.

The first, and by far my favorite of the two is from Kev White at Hasslefree.

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12079511_1696126800607098_2851187128641283778_n.jpg?oh=3dafa2046a843fd21f42cf054df12b4c&oe=56CBD4EB)

The second is from MomMiniaturas.

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Warrior-Priestess1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 13, 2015, 09:49:30 PM
The lady from HF is kickass, despite the silly breastplate.

I'm not a fan of the spiky hammer shaft, but maybe that's just the picture.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sig on October 13, 2015, 09:57:19 PM
Apart from the boob plate, totally awesome. Can't see a spiky hammer shaft, but even if it was it adds a slightly unhinged penitent feel to it all, and isn't overdone.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 13, 2015, 10:01:02 PM
Gender benders. What is the Empire coming to? 

On a side note: I am disappointed (but not really surprised) that nobody seems to have appreciated the hint. I am too smart by half.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 13, 2015, 10:12:42 PM
Well I can't post that monkey gif every time you say something, can I?

Okay, once more:

(https://img.pandawhale.com/94941-monkey-sigh-rimshot-gif-drums-K5UJ.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 13, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
That does not count: you are too smart by half too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 13, 2015, 11:29:16 PM
If it wasn't for the breast plates, they might pass as dudes.  Sorry doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 13, 2015, 11:54:01 PM
Which is pretty much the case for real women in armor, except for the breastplates.

Here's Kristen Stewart (definitely not a dude) in "Snow White", wearing lighter armor than the one above:

(http://www.snowwhiteandthehuntsman.com/splash/images/gallery/img17.jpg)

With full plate, there will be little to no difference.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 13, 2015, 11:58:03 PM
Which is pretty much the case for real women in armor, except for the breastplates.

Here's Kristen Stewart (definitely not a dude) in "Snow White", wearing lighter armor than the one above:

(http://www.snowwhiteandthehuntsman.com/splash/images/gallery/img17.jpg)

With full plate, there will be little to no difference.

And who would want that?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 14, 2015, 12:07:18 AM
Me, especially if she's the only one covering my back while I'm fighting orcs. :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 14, 2015, 12:27:24 AM
Yes it is true that Women don't need breast on their breastplates, but they might want them anyway.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/373072407_d1c46fe098_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4035/4219522544_d50cb94087.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3078/2530698046_e185596c2a.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on October 14, 2015, 07:41:53 AM
Yes it is true that Women don't need breast on their breastplates, but they might want them anyway.

[\quote]

No they would not. the whole point of armour is that it can deflect blows. Boobs don't deflect blows.
Those piece you show were propably mostly ceremonial, a fashion trend or (thinking out loud here) ment to be used on horseback (?)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on October 14, 2015, 07:43:12 AM
Yes it is true that Women don't need breast on their breastplates, but they might want them anyway.

[\quote]

No they would not. the whole point of armour is that it can deflect blows. Boobs don't deflect blows.
Those piece you show were propably mostly ceremonial, a fashion trend or (thinking out loud here) ment to be used on horseback (?)


anyway the first model still looks striking! nice for a sisters of sigmar warband ... :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 14, 2015, 07:43:27 AM
Come on guys ..... what is this Rock, Paper,  ............










It's Fantasy so they need to show they have boobs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 14, 2015, 12:45:39 PM
Which is pretty much the case for real women in armor, except for the breastplates.

Here's Kristen Stewart (definitely not a dude) in "Snow White", wearing lighter armor than the one above:

(http://www.snowwhiteandthehuntsman.com/splash/images/gallery/img17.jpg)

With full plate, there will be little to no difference.
And who would want that?
I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on October 14, 2015, 12:54:50 PM
Yes it is true that Women don't need breast on their breastplates, but they might want them anyway.

They wouldn't because unlike the pictures posted a boobplate is a danger to the wearer where as large codpieces [which were never used on battle armour] don't make the armour worse
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 14, 2015, 12:56:59 PM
I wouldn't kick her out of bed.

Would that be a bed of mails, then?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 14, 2015, 04:48:43 PM
Yes it is true that Women don't need breast on their breastplates, but they might want them anyway.

They wouldn't because unlike the pictures posted a boobplate is a danger to the wearer where as large codpieces [which were never used on battle armour] don't make the armour worse

Yeah, if you fall on your stomach with a boobplate it might break your sternum. It might also guide a blow right to the center of your chest. Both are easily avoided with a smooth armor.

Boobplates are fun, though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 14, 2015, 05:46:55 PM
I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
Would that be a bed of mails, then?
:icon_lol:  A bed of mail, that's a new one.

Well, definitely not nails. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 14, 2015, 08:05:05 PM
Yeah, if you fall on your stomach with a boobplate it might break your sternum.

I never thought about that - good point.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 14, 2015, 08:10:39 PM
Which is pretty much the case for real women in armor, except for the breastplates.

Here's Kristen Stewart (definitely not a dude) in "Snow White", wearing lighter armor than the one above:

(http://www.snowwhiteandthehuntsman.com/splash/images/gallery/img17.jpg)

With full plate, there will be little to no difference.

And who would want that?

That's actually pretty sexy.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 14, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
Actually, there's a very simple reason for boobplate. If a woman with large mammary glands wishes to wear armour, she has to either have boobplate or tie the whole circus down with tape or something. It's the same reason why I need a codpiece and a gutplate.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 14, 2015, 08:39:00 PM
I sincerely hope that was sarcasm, otherwise I would have to make a rather impolite comment about your knowledge about human anatomy. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 15, 2015, 08:58:17 PM
I've dissected and vivisected plenty of people, thank you very much!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 16, 2015, 04:04:50 AM
I've dissected and vivisected plenty of people, thank you very much!


(http://images4.alphacoders.com/493/49394.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 18, 2015, 05:45:20 PM
http://www.dixon-minis.com/shop/flodden-1513/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 22, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
I don't remember if anyone has posted the Diehard kickstarter yet...  :::cheers:::

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/diehardminiatures/diehard-miniatures-oldhammer-fantasy-miniatures

I can't believe I'm saying this, but... I really want just pledged for those Slann Eru-Kin. No idea what I would do with them, but I like the figures nonetheless.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 22, 2015, 07:33:02 PM
Bitz sites! Anybody? I'm 100% done with bitzbox.co.uk. They never have anything in stock even though they always claim to have restocked.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 22, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
I usually get what I need from eBay, but Horde of Bitz gets a lot of my business.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 22, 2015, 08:39:24 PM
I assume you mean Hoard o'  Bits?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 22, 2015, 09:44:17 PM
I assume you mean Hoard o'  Bits?

I assume the same thing.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Warhammer-Weib on October 23, 2015, 05:26:12 AM
Bitz sites! Anybody? I'm 100% done with bitzbox.co.uk. They never have anything in stock even though they always claim to have restocked.

Or you all could just PM DaTroll and tell him what you need. He's got a huuuuuuuge pile of bits boxes of all kinds of armies he wants to get rid of.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 23, 2015, 12:54:04 PM
I don't remember if anyone has posted the Diehard kickstarter yet...  :::cheers:::

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/diehardminiatures/diehard-miniatures-oldhammer-fantasy-miniatures

I can't believe I'm saying this, but... I really want just pledged for those Slann Eru-Kin. No idea what I would do with them, but I like the figures nonetheless.


Aaaaaannnnnnd.... it's cancelled. Email says they are reconsidering their goals & will be starting a new KS in early November.

They had over $10k in pledges, I would think that should be plenty enough to put those figures into production, so hopefull it works out next time.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 23, 2015, 01:44:35 PM
Had a quick look at the campaign and it seems like they were overly ambitious with their stretch goals and the campaign success in general. Most minis didn't look that good to be honest.

About the bitz sites: bitzbox.co.uk is really not that great. I did manage to order twice from the guy and that worked fine for the most part, but usally everything is out of stock for months. With the introduction of AOS, the number of offered bitz from WHFB kits was halfed, which doesn't make the site any more attractive either, but I think that's a problem that all bitz-selling sites and shops have now.

Hoard 'o Bitz was great, before the US post drastically increased the shipping cost to Europe, which makes ordering from the US pointless.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 23, 2015, 02:58:19 PM
Hoard 'o Bitz was great, before the US post drastically increased the shipping cost to Europe, which makes ordering from the US pointless.

Noticed that too. For an order of 27 dorra, I had to pay almost 15 dorra in shipping. So 42 dorra together...
I ultimately went for Megabitzshop, a German page. They sell whole mounts, not that single bit crap other sites do.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on October 23, 2015, 03:30:26 PM
I don't know where you live, but I'm pretty sure that you would also have to pay import taxes in this case already - That's the next big problem when ordering from the US (or from any non EU country in my case).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 23, 2015, 03:53:13 PM
I don't know where you live, but I'm pretty sure that you would also have to pay import taxes in this case already - That's the next big problem when ordering from the US (or from any non EU country in my case).

Possibly. Depends on how they ship it. It seems completely random at times. I did have to pay import on a game from the US, Dead of Winter (have NEVER played it...) but when I imported a rare video tape from Australia, no fees. Same for bitz from America, oddly enough.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on October 24, 2015, 09:57:45 AM
Any news about those Pro Gloria landsknecht sculpts?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on October 24, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
Any news about those Pro Gloria landsknecht sculpts?


They will be produced. Warlord Games just doesn't seem to have them scheduled in any recent future. Maybe they will be out 2017 at this rate?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Westfalia on October 26, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
Stefan, the former owner of Pro Gloria, told me that they'll reduce the number of models to save some money during mold making. can't really comment on the release date. :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 28, 2015, 05:37:01 PM
This outfit has a 35% off sale on the figures ...  a mixture of fantasy and sci-fi items ...

http://tinminis.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 28, 2015, 09:02:12 PM
This outfit has a 35% off sale on the figures ...  a mixture of fantasy and sci-fi items ...

http://tinminis.com/

I found them a bit small to really field them with anything but Red Box or some of Hasslefree's smaller offerings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 28, 2015, 09:12:14 PM
Good to know, so probably more like the old Ral Partha series of 25mm figures, eh?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 28, 2015, 09:37:50 PM
The site states they are 32mm
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 28, 2015, 10:35:27 PM
I know that the Shieldwolf Ogres & lion riders have been posted here before. I was looking into the rest of their figures and when I saw these, they made me think of followers of Morr:

http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=13
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 29, 2015, 03:35:30 AM
The site states they are 32mm
Yep ...
Quote
Welcome to Tinminis.com! Drawing our main inspiration from early 20th century science fiction, fantasy, and pulp literature, our goal at TinMan Miniatures ltd. is to provide a unique, quality alternative to the usual fare of minis available in the 28-32mm range. Our miniatures are made from a lead-free pewter alloy. They are not intended for children but are instead meant for collectors, painters, and gaming enthusiasts. Though we have several one-piece models, many others are sold as multi-piece kits and require some assembly and removal of flaws caused by the molding process. A minimal degree of modeling skill is recommended. Unless listed otherwise all of our miniatures are in 32mm scale where a six-foot tall man is about 32mm from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. Miniatures shown on our catalog pages have been inked and lightly brushed to bring out the details.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 29, 2015, 03:44:23 AM
20% off discount code at Ral Partha Europe. Good til Nov. 5.

http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 29, 2015, 08:27:48 AM
I let GP get away with a one-off, and now you're following suit.   :engel:

We have a sticky for these special offers, just a couple of threads up ............. 

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,33589.0.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 29, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
I goofed, my apology.  Saw that site with the fantasy/sci-figures for the first time, and partially because I'd picked up the sale that was running elsewhere.  Besides, I'd forgotten about the other thread.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 29, 2015, 12:48:27 PM
20% off discount code at Ral Partha Europe. Good til Nov. 5.

http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/

Oh sweet. Always wanted me some Ral Partha stuff. They mix quite well with GW stuff, I hear.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 29, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
I know that the Shieldwolf Ogres & lion riders have been posted here before. I was looking into the rest of their figures and when I saw these, they made me think of followers of Morr:

http://www.shieldwolfminiatures.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=13

Not enough skulls. Why don't sculptors get it right?  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on October 29, 2015, 03:12:47 PM
Come to think of it, neither skulls nor codpieces. And certainly not skull codpieces.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on October 29, 2015, 03:14:41 PM
I let GP get away with a one-off, and now you're following suit.   :engel:

We have a sticky for these special offers, just a couple of threads up ............. 


Sorry, just moved it there. I somehow hadn't noticed that thread, but will follow it from now on.


Oh sweet. Always wanted me some Ral Partha stuff. They mix quite well with GW stuff, I hear.


Some yes, some no. Some was even sold by GW at one point.

One of the other good things about Ral Partha Europe is that they've expanded beyond the old Ral Partha ranges and also include figures from Das Schwarze Auge, Heartbreaker and others.

But with that in mind, I think the scale of the figures varies a bit.



Not enough skulls. Why don't sculptors get it right?  :wink:

When you're enough of a badass to wield two scythes, your minimum skull quota is lowered.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 29, 2015, 08:58:39 PM
It was only a gentle jibe guys - Darius created the thread and I stickied it as I thought we should all help each other to enjoy bargains.

In fact I am all for them being promoted in as many places as deemed appropriate so this thread qualifies too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 30, 2015, 12:14:47 AM
Cool! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on October 30, 2015, 12:43:31 AM
Cool! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::

Careful GP, you're gonna spill that beer if you keep bashing the pots like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on October 30, 2015, 01:19:16 PM
 :icon_lol: :icon_exclaim:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 31, 2015, 12:23:06 AM
Not exactly Sisters of Sigmar, but they could fit into the Empire I believe.

(http://i.imgur.com/LWUd3tc.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ozpNzRu.jpg)

Raging Heroes Sisters of the Orphanage
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 31, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
Verily. I want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 31, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Here's a couple of close up of the individual figures

(https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/i28EK6i2TjINxej3kPJDY0LOX2rCb_GWRFyuz6g1C_--yLTv5eOf8zi_9b2p7LokEfVbVEOvkPgWnUitP12CQIpDaOKPBO_PGdCkGEC7D-fhGEQ21csRa3_A1Pa5qTlUSnD8HrYwXFsAyn6x_9Vvuv1FnhgmJPvuBWs0v-FZ_WUQ4OJfXVMtKWOEJY752Qe78317J7K-kJyDsSAoPnZST3E00QioVmu42Z9-7NLJnGuxOcdQ8OPAYjQXpdLHzlwn=s0-d-e1-ft#https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/805/109/55c08c03cd282f76894ed1e5b2f4c4a5_original.jpg?v=1446243221&w=700&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=27c0c7b9917d38bb244873239d8d464f)

(https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/xWHycFBmW1wf6a629cOlB9yEz4D1TbTJmafhLzFbxvGqKW-TLAmVhaa341Z65FFWfbKrimSrDojRop2DtOCvEV5VcSXvJzuiQaE-_K8jECzv806R3Ubgc1nSQTvNZVIf2vbBQBx99xLEq3FWc_rvCKJiPzBhPFISd2I3Kjv9pwS8REiV8JFyVsnHhBV8uqHBdgHG63GGPeXicFi70-RIwNv5h4lxWq2PVqfs3_Umy5gW_sddvKR3XIN6B5YetqfL=s0-d-e1-ft#https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/805/223/245d481cd1165eb05b44e54ec54b52aa_original.jpg?v=1446244378&w=700&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=849ea9b8c4b867274aa752ab97932209)

(https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/dxqG7-ChAhQy0kadqLS4ALrAPYjCTG8SXE1z3KYTmSgmBVJlYkdMaDkk450rvtvBwwHttVW6MvpzEjXGgtkd6t9N6Ha0Y4vGvbf-6Rxd-P5tDhpvJthqn8bdb92stRYhpRn6bMIzBFnC8ywDoos7H_IpDqzkbRtQ1so8I1fuLXNNKMkmuMhkAGJm9Y3h7N7pRka4pZNsBirBPdJSYQvKow6lpYSLCI03f5VCVfrTpDD2ADhlVpmbKSfLIDP2oBLb=s0-d-e1-ft#https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/805/244/3edebed37222537acc31480e0b3edb93_original.jpg?v=1446244562&w=700&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=7927657d9b457bcb2f38faa782bbe677)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on October 31, 2015, 07:29:34 PM
Thank you!

Stupid heels. Otherwise great.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 31, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
Thank you!

Stupid heels. Otherwise great.

I would agree with you if I hadn't spent a lot of time in Eastern Ukraine in winter. There is usually about four inches of ice on the sidewalks, but the local ladies all walk around in boots with four inch heels and they don't just walk they strut as if they were walking across the most solid surface imaginable. I have only seen two falls and they were both men in sensible winter shoes.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on October 31, 2015, 10:35:22 PM
It is a relieve to hear that, contrary to the clichι, there are few fallen women...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on October 31, 2015, 11:12:32 PM
It is a relieve to hear that, contrary to the clichι, there are few fallen women...

My wife's Uncle has a very amusing story of an English friend of theirs who went out for a drink one night and ended up in the wrong place. He asked the taxi driver to take him to a Public House which is what they call a whore house in those parts. He realized his mistake when he opened the menu and it was full of pictures of girls.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on November 01, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
It is a relieve to hear that, contrary to the clichι, there are few fallen women...

My wife's Uncle has a very amusing story of an English friend of theirs who went out for a drink one night and ended up in the wrong place. He asked the taxi driver to take him to a Public House which is what they call a whore house in those parts. He realized his mistake when he opened the menu and it was full of pictures of girls.

But he could still eat out if he wanted to. :-P
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on November 01, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
Your cunning lingers on...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2015, 01:05:08 PM

But he could still eat out if he wanted to. :-P

(http://getoffmyinternets.net/gomipress/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/smileyvault-puke.gif)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on November 01, 2015, 04:54:11 PM
I'm not too great a fan of the Raging Heroes stuff - too stylized for me. But those nuns I really like, even after a second look.

But he could still eat out if he wanted to. :-P

Very good!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on November 01, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
I don't like them either. I mean, really, skintight habits?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on November 01, 2015, 05:46:21 PM
Why not?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on November 01, 2015, 05:51:51 PM
Some prefer them to have loose habits...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on November 01, 2015, 05:56:35 PM
That's nunsense.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 01, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
You can make a bad pun like that once in a while, just don't get into the habit....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on November 01, 2015, 09:43:05 PM
You can make a bad pun like that once in a while, just don't get into the habit....

I hear it's habit forming.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on November 01, 2015, 09:57:38 PM
We already had "habit".

Honestly, this forum could do with a little more censership.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on November 01, 2015, 11:29:47 PM
We already had "habit".

Honestly, this forum could do with a little more censership.

I can tell you're quite incensed about this.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 02, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
We already had "habit".


Point of order.

Original 'habits' referred to clothing.

Second usage was the 'custom' meaning.

The Pun Judge rules it valid, to stop this thread disappearing into the abbess .....................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on November 02, 2015, 12:41:21 AM
Good to see that professed.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 02, 2015, 01:24:42 AM
Take heed. This is how the thread ends, not with a bang, but a wimple...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 02, 2015, 02:18:15 AM
... to stop this thread disappearing into the abbess .....................
Different spelling, yet back on track .... here is Alyscia of the Abyss ... warning: not rated for young'uns ... might pass as a dark elf ...

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/swords/latest/03323

... oh, and manufactured by Reaper.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on November 02, 2015, 11:21:44 AM
Could be used as a witch if you shave the excess arms off, but really? I don't like it. I'm well past the point where naked boobies make me giggle or excited.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 02, 2015, 12:08:42 PM
It's not the best figure, and I've never giggled or been excited by a naked figure.  However, I do like how the sculpter has modeled the spell that is being cast.  At the same time, it was more being put up because of the word "Abyss" in it's title.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on November 02, 2015, 03:49:50 PM
Could be used as a witch if you shave the excess arms off, but really? I don't like it. I'm well past the point where naked boobies make me giggle or excited.

Dead eh?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on November 02, 2015, 09:13:14 PM
Could be used as a witch if you shave the excess arms off, but really? I don't like it. I'm well past the point where naked boobies make me giggle or excited.

Dead eh?

Yeah. Earlier tonight I couldn't find my heartbeat.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 19, 2015, 06:52:58 PM
Black chappel minis still exist and are now in making of the new dwarfs:

(http://blackchapelminiatures.com/221-thickbox_default/axe-thrower.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on November 20, 2015, 12:36:46 PM
Oh, sweet. Does Mordheim include rules for thrown axes? I can imagine him being right at home there.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on November 22, 2015, 07:57:43 AM
Just got my first mantic models from the dungeon saga kickstarter. They aren't too bad but the detail is very soft so faces are a challenge to paint. Lots of bent weapons etc. The plastic looks and feels like that used for toys rather than gw quality. The best of the bunch are the skeletons which are very good anatomically. I am fifty fifty as to whether I would buy any more. Certainly they are not a good substitute for gw as a replacement for fantasy going forward.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on November 22, 2015, 09:09:35 AM
Just got my first mantic models from the dungeon saga kickstarter. -- -- I am fifty fifty as to whether I would buy any more. Certainly they are not a good substitute for gw as a replacement for fantasy going forward.

Mantic Undead r&f are good, most of the rest is mediocre to poor. But isn't the whole idea of KoW using quality gw models to play a balanced army-level battle game? The r&f can be obtained second hand from eBay etc., usually for a very reasonable price - because the market is flooded with generic fantasy plastics in 25...32mm.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 22, 2015, 04:22:31 PM
Does anyone here own a box of perry M@A or similar? I have been wondering for a long time how well the arms of this kit work with GW Empire troops. I have searched the web a couple of times, but could never find a satisfactory result (only GW arms on Perry models etc.). I would really appreciate if someone could make a mock-up and photo of said combination.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on November 22, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
I have had a box of Perry knights arrive last week with the intention of adding to my empire knights so when I have made and painted one I will do a comparison photo. My first impression is that they will look very different scale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2015, 12:05:46 AM
I dont have the MAA, but the command figures from the other sets should be pretty much the same. I can try sticking an arm onto a plastic Empire figure when i get a chance
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 23, 2015, 04:48:54 AM
No, not manufactured by GW, but ... new knights ...

http://www.lead-adventure.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 23, 2015, 05:42:55 AM
5th ed. WFB plastic Empire with arms from the WotR command sprue.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/minicomps/perrymaagwemp_zpseembh0hb.jpg)

They fit a bit awkwardly, and would need a bit of putty at the shoulder. That would help get the arms into a better position (higher) too. (I just put a tiny drop of glue to hold them temporarily.) Unfortunately, I think the arms are just too small for these old Empire bodies. Not sure about the newer kits.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 23, 2015, 02:12:51 PM
I don't know, from the pic, they look just big enough, and fit the breastplate in style. But why would one do this, does the wotr sprue offer extra arms?

No, not manufactured by GW, but ... new knights ...
http://www.lead-adventure.com/

Not bad, but I wonder if they are worth that much, and shipping is high too, I doubt they will sell a lot of them.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 23, 2015, 02:32:56 PM
Lead Adventure prices do seem to be a bit high.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on November 23, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
The Perry arms on GW figures look ok to me. Just fine. Now I will begin experimenting with the kits I have. Well, continue experimenting, but now with knowledge of extra possibilities.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 24, 2015, 02:22:15 AM
If you notice in the front a rear photos, the top of the shoulder on the GW torso is roughly level with the outer surface of the armour (not the flange) on the Perry arm. So at the very least, they need to be moved up a bit. That's where the putty or infill I mentioned before comes into play. The arms are recessed under the armour, so this was the best I could do for a temporary assembly.

The other issue I have with scale is considering the arms inside of the armour are going to be much smaller than the legs. So it will either look like they have shriveled up arms, or extremely meaty thighs/calves/ankles (the puff & slash parts help hide this, but not the rest.)

I'm not trying to tell anyone else what to like. Just explaining my own issues with mixing them.  :wink:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 24, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
Thank you for the photo 023!  :::cheers:::

I agree with your views regarding scale. I want some armoured arms for my plastic greatswords, because I feel like their standard arms are rather bad for the most part (in scale and design), but I haven't found a satisfying solution yet. I'm afraid that these arms might be too skinny, as the plastic greatsword miniatures are quite sturdy in comparison to the 5th edition plastic troops and especially to the Perry plastics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 24, 2015, 11:17:33 PM
I used knights arms for some of my kislevite greatswords.
The one on the right looks best.

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/Midaski/WIP/DSCF0090.jpg) (http://s771.photobucket.com/user/Midaski/media/WIP/DSCF0090.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on November 25, 2015, 03:09:14 PM
Interesting..what parts are those sir Midaski?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on November 26, 2015, 10:56:42 PM
There is a battle brush studios kickstarter up for bear riders, anyone know how they scale to gw models (as demigryph alternatives?).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 28, 2015, 08:33:56 PM
"your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"

(https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12289758_947209575371704_6848564683521597576_n.jpg?oh=c95e008bfa5b568e93fca5ddce8523e0&oe=56F6EA7F)

https://www.facebook.com/Studio-Miniatures-303037089788959/?fref=photo



Apparently there was a kickstarter some months ago:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/687110463/medieval-mayhem-28mm-knights-versus-zombies-miniat/description
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 28, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
Quite the miniature there. :icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 28, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
Some cool stuff going on here ... even though it isn't 28mm ...

http://www.valdemarminiatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on November 29, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Just built my first Perry knight - horse pretty close to warhammer but the rider looks like a midget unfortunately.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on November 30, 2015, 12:11:54 AM
Only on account of GW knights having insane proportions when put next to something with regular proportions in the scale. The Bretonnian knights all look like massive body builders when compared with historical minis.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 30, 2015, 12:46:21 AM
Just in case folks missed this carroccio by Perry, and the oxen, and the figures for it ...

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,33589.msg968858.html#new
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on November 30, 2015, 05:58:18 AM
Just in case folks missed this carroccio by Perry, and the oxen, and the figures for it ...

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?board=8.0

Wrong link GP. I have the figures but made my own caroccio. The figures are lovely.
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_64&products_id=2748&osCsid=cpjd0n61hk4l8cmlj51hm10380
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on November 30, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
Only on account of GW knights having insane proportions when put next to something with regular proportions in the scale. The Bretonnian knights all look like massive body builders when compared with historical minis.

Compared to the present crap they spew, they are pure gold. You should be thankfull.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 30, 2015, 02:49:37 PM
Just in case folks missed this carroccio by Perry, and the oxen, and the figures for it ...

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?board=8.0
Wrong link GP. I have the figures but made my own caroccio. The figures are lovely.

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_64&products_id=2748&osCsid=cpjd0n61hk4l8cmlj51hm10380
Ah!  Thanks for letting me know. I've changed the link to this ...

http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php/topic,33589.msg968858.html#new

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on December 09, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
It has been a year now since Warlord Games bought the Pro Gloria miniature range. Still no plastic Landsknechts. No news, no updates, not even any mention about the miniatures during the whole year. Well done.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on December 09, 2015, 08:20:11 PM
Worse, now they own the designs no chance of a successful kickstarter
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 09, 2015, 10:54:46 PM
Maybe write a letter? I myself would like to see them in real too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 10, 2015, 05:08:05 AM
Someone else should do some new sculpts and a kickstarter and beat them to the punch.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 10, 2015, 03:30:34 PM
It has been a year now since Warlord Games bought the Pro Gloria miniature range. Still no plastic Landsknechts. No news, no updates, not even any mention about the miniatures during the whole year. Well done.

Warlord games has a packed schedule. They might be released within a year or two.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on December 10, 2015, 09:10:39 PM
I actually asked them today, but their speedy answer was essentially what Ursa wrote above.

"I can confirm that there are plans to release the plastic Landsknechts.. the models are simply too nice not to release them... but unfortunately this is as far as I know at the moment, there are no certain release dates set yet."

They'd like to release the Landsknechts, but their release schedule gets altered often, and it seems the Landsknechts are often being pushed back the line. No dates, which I take to mean they don't have even started to plan to invest in the molds.

My speculation, but I'm afraid it will take at least another year before anything might happen.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on December 10, 2015, 10:22:38 PM
A bit ridiculous. I thought the whole point of them buying Pro Gloria was that they had the resources and potential to produce the miniatures in a timely manner. Apparently they don't. I will just erase the whole Pro Gloria thing from my mind then.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 11, 2015, 09:16:28 AM
My guess is that there wasn't a solid plan for any sort of "timely manner." More likely they were just picking up projects that looked profitable without a plan on how to fit it in between all the WWII and sci-fi stuff.

Although, I notice they did release some AWI figures. Good move, since they're only competing with two other companies with plastic AWI figures already on the market. But I suppose success is a "sure thing" with beauties like these...

(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/AWI-Continental-Cannon.jpg)

(http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/AWI-British-Cannon-600x382.jpg)

 :ph34r:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 11, 2015, 10:19:24 AM

.... but how can they do a deal to sell the Wargames Factory stuff which is average at best, and neglect the Pro Gloria plastics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 11, 2015, 12:13:56 PM
I'm not a fan of Warlord's AWI cannon crews.  Although I'm not doing AWI in 28mm, but 40mm instead.  The quality of what is coming out in 40mm is excellent and way above some the quality of the newest 28mm releases.

And when checked last, I didn't see Wargames Factory on their site yet.  Besides, it seems bizzare that they'd be selling those.

Perhaps with the Pro-Gloria plastics, they haven't seen decent enough interest in their Italian Wars line of figures?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 11, 2015, 12:41:36 PM
Here be some cool looking trolls and goblins ...

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=22&cat=158&page=1
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on December 11, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
I don't know how well the proportions will fit with warhammer models, maybe they are worried the fantasy players will see the finished result next to an empire infantry model and decide to pass?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on December 11, 2015, 02:06:48 PM

.... but how can they do a deal to sell the Wargames Factory stuff which is average at best, and neglect the Pro Gloria plastics.

I asked them about the issue and here's their answer:

""Thank you for your message - and your interest in the Landsknechts range.

I can confirm that there are plans to release the plastic Landsknechts.. the models are simply too nice not to release them... but unfortunately this is as far as I know at the moment, there are no certain release dates set yet.

Our release schedule is constantly changing (and often at short notice) so the best thing to do is to keep watching our Newsletter, Facebook Page, and Website - as soon as we have any further news or information on the models you want.

I'm sorry I couldn't give a more definitive answer at this time - however, I hope to have helped.""


Maybe if more people show their interest, they will hurry up the process!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 11, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
And when checked last, I didn't see Wargames Factory on their site yet.  Besides, it seems bizzare that they'd be selling those.


http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/american-war-of-independence-1776-1783/products/liberty-or-death-american-war-of-independence-battle-set

They've reboxed them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 11, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
Ah, no wonder I don't like those figures, and they didn't look like Warlord's other AWI offerings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 11, 2015, 07:35:25 PM
Interesting, I didn't realize they were WGF figures, but I can see it now. So I guess my first impression was right? They're focusing their own production on WWII & scifi?

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: oak_prince on December 11, 2015, 09:16:22 PM

.... but how can they do a deal to sell the Wargames Factory stuff which is average at best, and neglect the Pro Gloria plastics.

I'm really concerned that Warlord will become The Borg and gobble everyone else up. They're distributing for WGF and seem to have some sort of noncompete arrangement with Perry Miniatures. I'd rather see some healthy competition, y'know?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 11, 2015, 10:23:23 PM
I went looking for the announcement - it was August 7th and on both sites WG and WF.
Supposed to be Warlord doing all of WF's sales worldwide.

It said it would start in October, but there doesn't seem to have been much integration.
If you look under Hail Caesar in the shop, that covers up to 1500AD and mentions the Dark Ages, but I could find some re-boxed Germanic Tribes which I think is WF, but no Vikings or Saxons.
Also couldn't see Skeletons, Zombies, & the Apocalypse Survivor sets, and even the AWI cannon set GP mentioned.

The WF announcement back in August was from I guess a Chinese gentleman which supports the suggestion that they were getting their product made 'overseas'.
Maybe there is no WF Sales or even Company in the USA anymore, and the Chinese factory is just looking for an outlet for its sprues.


 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 11, 2015, 10:54:34 PM
Not sure I like the sound of that, yet when clicking the article in the upper right hand corner of the WF site it takes a person in to an article where there is clearly a Chinese name listed as CEO for WF.

One thing after another has occured with WF that I stay away from ordering anything from them, and the problem with Warlord is they seem to jack up the price when they take someone over and sell the captured product.  The latter and as witness, the increase in costs of all things Immortal Miniatures.

As for the AWI cannon sets, I suspect those are coming from the Warlord boxed sets, and haven't seen them sold seperately anywhere else.  Not that I care if they were or weren't, because the crews just don't look good enough for me to want, and in fact look more like cheap toys than military miniatures of quality.  I doubt the Chinese company producing that plastic junk cares either, and in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 11, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
The WF announcement back in August was from I guess a Chinese gentleman which supports the suggestion that they were getting their product made 'overseas'.
Maybe there is no WF Sales or even Company in the USA anymore, and the Chinese factory is just looking for an outlet for its sprues.


From what I recall of the history, the overseas manufacturer did take ownership of the company, and replaced the original owners/staff with their own (still here in the US.) So it's entirely possible that they wanted out of the sales/management portion of the equation and sticking with manufacturing.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 11, 2015, 11:36:37 PM
I wouldn't want to work for them or with them, and wonder how long the agreement with Warlord might last.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 12, 2015, 01:44:26 AM
If Warlord is just selling, then they probably have very little to lose, even if the artangement doesn't last.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on December 12, 2015, 02:49:04 AM
I'm gonna take a guess that they have a hard time fitting them into the schedule because they didn't have any plans to buy up Pro Gloria to begin with and the owner of Pro Gloria had to sell for sudden personal reasons.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 28, 2015, 07:32:28 PM


Ogre Mercenary Bagpiper from Werewoolf

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/281895972797?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VhIAAOSw5IJWgXll/s-l1600.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 06, 2016, 03:56:13 AM


Alternate robohorse?

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/closeout/microartstudio-wolsung/snorri-rottstein-on-golemic-flea-1.html


(https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/media/catalog/product/m/a/mas-w00006b.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 07, 2016, 06:10:03 PM
New landsknechts from The Assault Group ...

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/index.php?article=274
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on January 08, 2016, 11:39:28 AM
http://www.momminiaturas.com/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Syphon on January 08, 2016, 12:28:42 PM
Children of the Lion, children of the Gryphon? Hmm...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on January 08, 2016, 12:33:21 PM
they have some really cool dwarves and "barabarians" though for not much money :)
and a cool banner dude :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 08, 2016, 02:09:36 PM
I agree, some nice figures and the price seems good (not sure about that once shipping to the US would be included.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: DariusZero on January 13, 2016, 11:39:56 AM
http://www.momminiaturas.com/

the only figure of which the sculpting and the casting look decent is the banner bearer. mybe some day.

The new  robogriffin, Saint Mary from the Dark age I think:

(http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/000-Saint-Mary-Forsaken-Paint-Header.jpg)

from the tutorial on Bols: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/draft-dark-age-painting-saint-mary-part-1.html (http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/draft-dark-age-painting-saint-mary-part-1.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 13, 2016, 02:15:03 PM


(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/ZeroTwentythree/personal/robogriffincover_zpsd062g8cw.jpg)


(I feel a little guilty, since a lot of time and technical skill obviously went into it. But I can't help thinking it looks like '70s rock art/cover.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 29, 2016, 10:25:29 AM
Apparently Avatars of War have gone bankrupt - is that old news or new news  :icon_question:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on January 29, 2016, 01:31:03 PM
It's new to me. Damn.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 29, 2016, 03:58:09 PM
They'd run sales middle of last year and into the fall (bought a Perry carraccio with oxen and crew on sale), and the number of products they were selling was decreasing.  Then they seemed to fall off the map, yet I hadn't seen nor heard anything regarding bankruptcy.  Did they really file for bankruptcy?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 29, 2016, 05:20:10 PM
That's a shame. Although none of the AoW stuff was of personal interest to me, it was very nice. It was also good to see a talented sculptor strike out on his own and do well -- at least for a time, it seems. I hope that we have not seen the last of either the figures or the sculptor.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 29, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
Looks like I'm seeing other info on this today.  A letter from the owner has been posted on a couple of other websites regarding the failing of the business, and various viewpoints are being expressed.

If it is as bad as it appears, maybe the rights for making and selling the various products can be sold to help alleviate some, if not all, of the situation.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on January 29, 2016, 11:28:37 PM
That's sad. Felix is very good and I hope that he finds an employer who lets him use his skills.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on January 30, 2016, 07:46:24 AM
@Gamespoet can you provide a link? My google fu is weak

I liked the sculpts but never really trusted AoW after the indigogo and the pre-order delays
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on January 30, 2016, 09:42:42 AM
They wanted to create their own range of Fantasy Battles type of game, and entered the hard plastic business. The costs of hard plastic + the splintering of the FB scene might have hit.

But nothing yet on their own website, or forum, or on facebook. Indeed, I could find nothing. Where is this discussed?

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 30, 2016, 04:12:06 PM
North Star had a post up on their twitter page on Thursday/Friday - they have been running a January Sale and the post said:
"Now AoW have gone bankrupt this might be your last chance to get ....( various models in the sale which finished Friday morning UK time)"

After the sale finished I looked Friday evening and the post had been taken down.  North Star have their finger on the pulse of the hobby and are usually pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 30, 2016, 04:32:48 PM
@Gamespoet can you provide a link? My google fu is weak

I liked the sculpts but never really trusted AoW after the indigogo and the pre-order delays
Try Lead Adventure and TMP forums, both site's have threads going on those, and search functions.

AoW seemed to have some quality products, yet when I was at a historical gaming convention or two, I didn't get positive feelings from those behind their booth.  They carried Perry products and I purchased a couple of small boxes of WotRs metal figures, but beyond that I typically bought Perry plastics from other folks.  I own one or two of their scenery products, and would have liked to obtained more, yet the cost usually got in the way.  I really liked their fortification structures, and it is a bummer I didn't get to pick one or two of those, yet it is what it is.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on January 31, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
You're talking about Architects of War?

I thought it was Avatars of War. No wonder, then, that I couldn't find anything. :)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on January 31, 2016, 07:04:18 PM
I thought you guys were talking about Age of Wigmar.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on January 31, 2016, 07:18:17 PM
Ah - my bad - I saw AoW and didn't realise / know the difference.

I thought Avatars were a manufacturer as I have some of their minis, so wondered why people were talking about someone selling Perrys stuff.
But then North Star had Avatars figures in their sale, and he was talking about possibly being the last chance to buy them.

All a bit confusing. 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 31, 2016, 11:15:57 PM
I thought you guys were talking about Age of Wigmar.
:icon_lol:  Suspect many would like to see that one go out of business. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on February 03, 2016, 02:38:44 AM
MomMiniatures has a new unit of pikemen coming out which should raise some interest here.

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Human-Captain.jpg)

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Pikemen-2.jpg)

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Pikemen-1.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8crrp2IqtRg/VlIe_oW9F5I/AAAAAAAB9LU/w1KWu2Ad4Cg/s1600/DSCF7668.JPG)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on February 03, 2016, 09:56:04 PM
Nice. Seems a bit bulky mayhaps...they might mix up nice with Gamezone's.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 03, 2016, 10:13:05 PM
Very promising!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 04, 2016, 03:22:17 AM
Here is a halfling kickstarter ...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/497254986/classic-oldhammer-halfling-miniatures-in-true-28mm/description
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on February 04, 2016, 10:30:54 AM
phew, such confusion. I was afraid avatar sof war has gone bankrupt. I don't know Architects of war so can't really say much about that. What a relieve ;)


those mom pikes look good! to bad their facebook is all in spanish
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on February 04, 2016, 07:56:04 PM
I assume the pikes will be metal rather than plastic? Any idea of how well they scale with warhammer?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 04, 2016, 08:11:38 PM
Here is a halfling kickstarter ...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/497254986/classic-oldhammer-halfling-miniatures-in-true-28mm/description

tempting, but i think dont match the halflings i bought
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 04, 2016, 08:41:24 PM
The pikemen look great! The extra detail would make them good for front rank if they scale well with others, or maybe their own unit of veterans if they don't.


Am I missing something on the halfling KS? Some of the pledge levels include one of each stretch goal, but I don't see any stretch goals listed. They look like they would go well with some of the old halflings I've got -- which seems to be the point. I've already sunk my gaming budget into the Westfalia halflings, but still might like to get a set of these to round out the old figures if I can scrape together the funds.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 05, 2016, 03:11:55 PM
Small world. Realized that I've met the guy running the halfling KS & been to his shop. I spend part of my work week right around the corner, so maybe I'll try to get a peek at the figures & ask about the stretch goals.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 05, 2016, 04:54:26 PM
Small world. Realized that I've met the guy running the halfling KS & been to his shop. I spend part of my work week right around the corner, so maybe I'll try to get a peek at the figures & ask about the stretch goals.
That will be interesting.
I had a look but wasn't sure whether I was keen.

The figures look small and so a size comparison would be interesting - there was a vast difference between the very early Citadel halflings and the later ones in the late 90s and which were similar scale to the Lumpings DoW unit

I also didn't think it had excited a lot of interest, just squeezing past the 2000$ mark.

Plus it is just a small number of figures - not something you would necessarily build large units from - so the compatibility with other ranges is important.



Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 05, 2016, 07:10:25 PM
Compatibility has always been an issue, and is why they may be of some use to me. The small number of halflings I've already got are all over the scale. These look like they would fit with some of the middle-sized old halflings I have from Citadel and Grenadier, and maybe some of the (newer) ones from Goblin Factory. I don't like the style of these as much as the Westfalia figures, but again -- they look like they match the style as well as the scale of those other figures I've already got.

Not necessarily building an army, but maybe I can at least round up enough of similar scale for a militia unit now. If not, they end up as civilians, either in the towns/farms or guarding the baggage -- similar to some of the human civilians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on February 09, 2016, 12:02:43 AM
Based off of Kev's excellent female Warrior Priest (Priestess?) Hasslefree released Sister Morrigan today.

(http://www.hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/H127%20Sister%20Morrigan%20composite.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on February 09, 2016, 11:14:36 AM
Oh, that looks like it would be great for Mordheim.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 09, 2016, 10:18:18 PM
Stoopid boobplate. Otherwise awesome.

How about this guy for the Frostgrave crowd?

(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/t31.0-8/s720x720/12710742_1731878150365296_5380640429830955055_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: FR1DAY on February 09, 2016, 10:27:27 PM
How big is he?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 09, 2016, 10:32:06 PM
I don't know, but he's supposed to be a half ogre: http://hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=resin-master-%252d-grond-skyclad~hfmaster-m034&category=fantasy-%26%0D%0Asteampunk~fantasy-monsters-%26-animals

(Penis alert.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on February 10, 2016, 01:27:09 AM
I liked him better before Kev put the helmet on him.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on February 10, 2016, 10:12:30 PM
Ah, yes. The "uncut version".
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on February 12, 2016, 09:12:06 PM
WIP plastic tower kit from Renedra:
http://www.magabotato.de/tabletop/item/preview-the-tower
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on February 15, 2016, 05:23:41 PM
Apparently Avatars of War have gone bankrupt - is that old news or new news  :icon_question:


I think if they are bankrupt they are handling it magnificently as they just posted pictures of a new release on their Facebook page. :biggriin:

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10981743_10153963325640990_5477444551561375176_n.jpg?oh=d96ad9eefee2e7e94220c5ab6f0008ff&oe=57248039)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on February 15, 2016, 05:33:23 PM
Because why wear trousers, if you don't have to.... /s


seriously though, what a horrible model.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: commandant on February 15, 2016, 05:36:05 PM
Stoopid boobplate. Otherwise awesome.

I don't think she is wearing metal armour, it looks to me like it is a leather tunic with a gorget.   A little silly but not as bad as the boob plate
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on February 15, 2016, 07:02:57 PM
Wouldn't the boob plate just direct the sword blow towards her sternum?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on February 23, 2016, 11:48:41 AM
Westfalia promo-halfling!

(http://westfaliafantasybattles.com/preview/bugger.jpg)

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?PHPSESSID=6293421545df3efb02cd874d795d1e8d&topic=87590.0

For Salute, apparently. I really want one.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 23, 2016, 05:02:49 PM
I go to Salute every year .............. I already have my ticket for this year ............... I know what Kawe looks like ..............

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 29, 2016, 03:47:08 PM
"Time Robbers" from Northumbrian Tin Soldier.

http://ntseshop.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=185

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5psZnXSEsJU/VsxI8blRJQI/AAAAAAAAIgw/9LXDQg4kYfQ/s1600/Group%2Bpic%2Bby%2BAndy%2BTaylor.jpg)


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 29, 2016, 04:27:48 PM
Well those look interesting! :icon_cool: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on February 29, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
Where's "Stinkin' Kevin"? (Lifted from my favourite line in the wonderfully silly fantasy film.)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on February 29, 2016, 05:16:24 PM
Wally: Lads! Here's to stinking rich!
All: Yeah!
Fidgit: And to Kevin.
All: Yeah, Kevin!
Og: Stinking Kevin.

(https://storage.googleapis.com/vidsums/c6712032-1bdd-4622-98db-da7091feffa8_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on February 29, 2016, 05:19:48 PM
Well, we got some kind of update on the Pro Gloria plastic landsknechts on Warlord's forum.

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Hi guys,

Sorry for the delay in getting a response to you - the plastic Landsknechts are coming... however we don't have a release date set yet.

The plastics still require some work prior to release, and are being worked-upon around various other projects... I did ask for an update on them earlier this week - I'll see if I can get some more detailed news to you...

Rich.D

So I'm thinking maybe in a year then?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: red shift on March 01, 2016, 01:52:58 PM
Some news is better than none. I just hope they scale well with my empire state troops.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on March 01, 2016, 06:57:55 PM
That's great news, I hope they release the full set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 05, 2016, 08:06:11 AM
This looks like it is going to be Gripping Beast's plastic box release for Salute this year.

(http://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/userfiles/images/sys/products/GBP09_Late_Roman_Infantry_plastic_44_82755.gif)


They already have their Dark Ages boxes and this would make a fine addition. Interesting that Crusader have also added more sets to their "Sub-Roman" range.

http://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=4&sub=62&page=1

It's an historical era that I have always been attracted to, and have lots of figures for - unpainted of course.  :engel:


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 05, 2016, 05:06:45 PM
Ooh, I like those. I wish I had an excuse to start playing Late Roman period again.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 09, 2016, 07:40:43 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/536771983/armoured-knights

16th century foot knights.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/494/529/c1d5d2ae230ceaa89d9a429278b0d4a1_original.jpeg?v=1457438023&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=7cbbce3106ac908d8159cb26e5986029)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 10, 2016, 07:17:02 PM
And here's a link directly to their site with the figures currently available ...

http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/products/15th_century_nobles
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 18, 2016, 04:43:07 AM


I'm can't remember if we've covered Battleforge before. (I really think we need a wiki format for an "Other Manufacturers" database.)

http://www.thebattleforge.co.uk/28mm-wargame-miniatures-248-c.asp

Halflings, Ogres, a giant, baggage & wagons...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 25, 2016, 12:35:44 AM
Here is a halfling kickstarter ...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/497254986/classic-oldhammer-halfling-miniatures-in-true-28mm/description

Small world. Realized that I've met the guy running the halfling KS & been to his shop. I spend part of my work week right around the corner, so maybe I'll try to get a peek at the figures & ask about the stretch goals.

I never made it to the shop like I said I would, and missed out on the Kickstarter. But I'm out in the area today & tomorrow, so I stopped by a little earlier. He's in the process of casting up the halflings (as well as a sci-fi Kickstarter) right now, so I got a little peek at the figures & greens from both. The halflings looked good. I didn't have a side by side comparison, and it's been ages since I've seen the Lumpin Croop figures, but I'm pretty sure these are a little smaller. I think they should fit with some of my other oldschool halflings. (Admittedly, the old GW & Grenadier halflings were all over the place in terms of size/scale, so it would be difficult not to fit with at least some of them. :wink: ) I'm going to save my nickles and go back in a couple of weeks and see if I can buy some.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 26, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
Never got around to that kickstarter to participate.  Too many Westfalia halfmen coming anyway.  Plus I had a trip to Cold Wars planned, and that was fun.  Played C&G with Naps and GNW, plus a Galipoli game, and two Herero Wars games, too.  Took a lesson on painting horses as well.  But I digress. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on March 30, 2016, 02:30:11 PM
More knights were added to the kickstarter:

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/615/180/1b7e920c3cbcd0f1a3135a848ae1f7f1_original.jpeg?w=639&fit=max&v=1459285604&auto=format&q=92&s=f8d2ae357316ed8cc62ec59efa064907)

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/615/172/602fff3630d715ca76deed4c5383abe9_original.jpeg?w=639&fit=max&v=1459285537&auto=format&q=92&s=a5678a2495ac78e95eeca175d8136dc4)


I'm very tempted to get some of those, but I'm still unsure because of scale (I reckon they are slightly smaller than your standard GW Empire miniature). The guy posted some comparison pictures with Perry miniatures, but that's of little use to me. Is there someone here who has already backed the project or is registered on kickstarter and could ask for the exact size (in mm) of the smallest and largest miniature from head to toe? That would be great and much appreciated!  :-)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 31, 2016, 04:09:34 PM
Those knights really look great!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 21, 2016, 04:17:11 AM
I've got some mixed opinions on the whole Chaos Wars/Ral Partha/Ironwind Metals re-release thing. I'm going to keep most of that to myself right now, other than to mention that their second Kickstarter is live, that it's a real task to look through it all (seriously, set aside an hour or two,) and although they are mostly old/vintage/whatever figures, there are a few real gems hidden in there. Also -- mostly unrelated to Empire armies. But I thought there might be some other things a few of us might like. There are some humans further down, etc.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1050509756/ral-parthas-chaos-wars-dwarf-undead-troglodyte-min
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Commander Bernhardt on April 21, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
agreed. nice minis but ... idk feels outdated
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on April 22, 2016, 03:31:18 AM
I've got some mixed opinions on the whole Chaos Wars/Ral Partha/Ironwind Metals re-release thing. I'm going to keep most of that to myself right now, other than to mention that their second Kickstarter is live, that it's a real task to look through it all (seriously, set aside an hour or two,) and although they are mostly old/vintage/whatever figures, there are a few real gems hidden in there. Also -- mostly unrelated to Empire armies. But I thought there might be some other things a few of us might like. There are some humans further down, etc.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1050509756/ral-parthas-chaos-wars-dwarf-undead-troglodyte-min

I wont keep my opinion to myself, I think this kickstarter sucks.

They had me jazzed up over re-releaseing the Tom Meyer troglodytes (even though they are or were available). But with their "easier" buy-in format I have to spend 5 bucks on a figure I dont want and the basic Trog set isnt particularly a good deal price wise.
And why the heck would anyone want to buy these signed limited edition packs at double the price and who are they signed by Stifler's mom or that beardy guy that runs the place?

They have old videos on youtube showing their work bench assembly line for making new molds which they apperantly do on a regular basis as part of their business. So why do they need a kickstarter to do something that they do as part of their normal business?

Feels more like a gimmick then a real kickstarter. I'll wait till its over to buy the Trogs, judging fron their last kickstarter the price stays the same and at least I wont have to pay extra for a figure I dont want.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 22, 2016, 07:47:40 PM
That's a lot of what I was thinking. Including wanting those trogs! It does seem a bit gimmicky. I'm not even sure I understand that, though, because I haven't seen them promoting it around forums, web sites, groups, etc. like other manufacturers do. (I only found out because I follow their FB page.)

I'm not sure on the price, though. It looks like the big trogs end up around $3 each, and the small ones are $2.50. On the IWM web site, though, similar sized figures as the big ones are around $5 each, and the few small trogs (as well as similar size goblins, etc.) they already have listed are $3 each. (Although some are available in groups for cheaper.) So it does seem cheaper on the KS -- maybe? I agree the $5 vamp is dumb -- but the impact of that becomes less depending on how much you spend.

Some of it, though... like I can buy the skeleton giant right off their web site right now for $6. Or I pledge $10 for one on their KS. WTF?

If I had the money to blow, I would probably go ahead and get a bunch of trogs. But there are other things I'm more excited about that I'm going to wait on. I mean, I've waited 30 years to get more of these, what's a little longer.  :icon_lol:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 22, 2016, 08:59:59 PM
Any helpful ideas for miniature birds and dogs?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on April 22, 2016, 09:10:58 PM
Any helpful ideas for miniature birds and dogs?

I dunno, these comes to mind.
http://store.warlordgames.com/products/wild-dogs/
http://store.warlordgames.com/products/ancient-celts-warhound-pack/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on April 22, 2016, 09:13:15 PM
What kind of dogs?

From out of my head, there's Hasslefree's Hamlet...

(http://hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/HFN024%20Hamlet%20web.jpg)

...Chip...

(http://hfminis.co.uk/img_cms/product_images/M035%20Chip%20composite.jpg)

...Malifaux's Guild Hounds...

(http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/41716-large_default/guild-hounds.jpg)

...and of course the old Mordheim Witch Hunter dogs.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 22, 2016, 09:17:36 PM
Want it to be friendly looking and small. Regular dog style for a hobbit tracker, not a huge war dog

Hamlet might be funny, bigger than the halflings!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Karl Voss of Averland on April 22, 2016, 10:49:24 PM
Findlay, your halfling should ride the first dog, hassle free hamlet, and paint him like Scooby-Doo
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 22, 2016, 11:03:19 PM
That top dog looks like Scoobie Doo.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 22, 2016, 11:53:44 PM
Any helpful ideas for miniature birds and dogs?


http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/bird

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/dog

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 22, 2016, 11:54:45 PM
Also...

http://www.sgmm.biz/Animals_c_83.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 05, 2016, 01:11:09 AM
Works in progress from Dark Maenad Games. The sculptor is Olivier Bouchet.

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/13059430_10209076919951093_719418061_n.jpg?oh=e4fafea9553ebf09562adae5494ba3d7&oe=572CBC85)

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/13084068_10209076919911092_2127375688_n.jpg?oh=1b372d330960e8461f40ed8ba013b721&oe=572D0C2A)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 11, 2016, 05:19:39 PM
unimpressed by resin and metal castings of some companies i've used recently.

Don't feel so resentful of scraping plastic GW mould lines now...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 11, 2016, 08:09:52 PM
Oops, I guess you can't post an image from that source. Let's try that again with some updated work in progress shots. Two female fighters, works in progress from Dark Maenad Games. The sculptor is Olivier Bouchet.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/54/9d/f3/549df3de31a2fddf76479119abca5521.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/13/61/b6/1361b6ded56e4f7a739f92528887a9b0.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a1/ac/9b/a1ac9bd9124a0fba9e8337dd1ffd1987.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 19, 2016, 07:49:04 PM
Almost finished. These will be resin multi part figures. The idea being that you can mix and match and more options will be added as the line expands.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e2/98/b9/e298b9ab0697c465fe09443bc8bf40ea.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/be/f1/c6/bef1c6f511675d334b76e4a03cb0f626.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c7/4a/c6/c74ac60f7ad635df2358ad2908f6b81c.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bb/a9/8a/bba98af5c515210c86c5bceff96e2ecd.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zak on May 19, 2016, 08:01:11 PM
wow I love them and I like the fact they are all fighty without being nude, boobs hanging out etc.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on May 19, 2016, 09:31:08 PM
The weapons are too clunky for me - rapiers would have been better. Otherwise I agree.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 20, 2016, 12:26:44 AM
The weapons are too clunky for me - rapiers would have been better. Otherwise I agree.

Thanks guys, I am very excited about this project. I have no illusions about making much money, but I would like to make some cool miniatures.

Gneisenau, the girl with the sword and dagger was supposed to be carrying a schiavone and a main gauche. My understanding from Olivier is that once the greens have been baked the swords will be polished up. I don't think a rapier is very feasible in resin though I would like to be able to be able to produce some. As I said the arms will be swapable so if I can manage it down the line you can change out the weapons.

Zak, that's what I was shooting for, glad you like them.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on May 20, 2016, 04:38:20 AM
Agree on the need to make the sword smaller, but I'd consider them for my 16th century skirmish project. Sensible female sculpts are in short supply.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 20, 2016, 09:40:31 AM
Would be good for DoW duelists!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on May 20, 2016, 10:22:54 PM
Thanks guys, I am very excited about this project. I have no illusions about making much money, but I would like to make some cool miniatures.

It's your project? That's great! I must have missed that.

You're probably right about the resin. Anybody who wants a smaller blade can use a sewing needle or something similary.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 21, 2016, 01:07:27 AM
Thanks guys, I am very excited about this project. I have no illusions about making much money, but I would like to make some cool miniatures.

It's your project? That's great! I must have missed that.

You're probably right about the resin. Anybody who wants a smaller blade can use a sewing needle or something similary.

I was playing that bit close to the vest, but yes it's mine.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Westfalia on June 14, 2016, 05:26:14 PM
When can we buy the little beauties?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 21, 2016, 12:12:23 AM
When can we buy the little beauties?

Olivier sent them to GRX last week. I am not sure how long casting will take.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on June 21, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
Keep us posted!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on June 21, 2016, 08:30:39 PM
Keep us posted!

Thanks, I hope to find out tomorrow when I will have them in hand.

FYI I have contracted with Olivier for three more figures. I am thinking about one being a Highlander girl in kilt and maybe a Russian/Kislev girl.

Also, MIKH is doing a female mage and her apprentice. I told him something very Baroque, like a 40K inquisitor except for Fantasy. These will not be available until next year though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 28, 2016, 04:26:29 PM
New KS from Oathsworn

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/oathsworn/sensible-shoes-2-female-gaming-miniatures


Including an Owlbear    :biggriin:
 
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/012/831/088/d123be34195a6090147f0c5e7d53e0d4_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1466632694&auto=format&q=92&s=814ba7d1838113d3ad0e58ba423c3c90)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 05, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
From the Frostgrave dynasty:

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This will be followed in November by Forgotten Pacts, another print supplement which focuses on demons and the barbarian tribes that live in the mountains to the north of the Frozen City. And yes, the rumours are true, the book will be supported by a new box of plastic barbarian miniatures. (I have seen the 3-ups and they are awesome!).

Looking forward to those.

Quote
http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/frostgrave-state-of-play-and-contest.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on July 05, 2016, 09:10:49 PM
New KS from Oathsworn

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/oathsworn/sensible-shoes-2-female-gaming-miniatures

Not overwhelming, but I like the concept, and you cannot argue with the price. 12 GBP for three minis is a good offer.

*insert Brexit joke*
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 31, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
This might be interesting. Osprey seem to have produced some reasonable new rules sets working in partnerships over the last few years.
Lion Rampant, Dragon Rampant, On the Seven Seas, Ronin, Frostgrave to name a few.

(http://northstarfigures.com/images/2/img8572.jpg)

Quote
The Roman Empire rules the civilised world with an iron fist, seemingly all-powerful and limitless. And yet, the power of Rome is secured not by its mighty legions, but by small bands of warriors and agents fighting a secret war. Tasked by the Emperor to explore ancient temples, forgotten labyrinths and beast-haunted caverns, they seek out artefacts hidden by the gods themselves, hunt creatures of myth and face enemies that would use dark magic against the empire.
 Broken Legions is a set of fantasy skirmish rules for a war unknown to history, fought in the shadows of the Roman Empire. Various factions recruit small warbands to fight in tight, scenario-driven battles that could secure the mystical power to defend - or crush - Rome. A points system allows factions to easily build a warband, and mercenaries and free agents may also be hired to bolster a force. Heroes and leaders may possess a range of skills, traits and magical abilities, but a henchman's blade can be just as sharp, and a campaign can see even the lowliest henchman become a hero of renown.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 31, 2016, 03:33:43 PM
Sounds interesting. I had been considering a home-brewed  fantasy Roman game set in Germania a while ago. Think I'll have to check this out!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 31, 2016, 12:23:37 AM
Knights.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/536771983/mounted-rennaisance-knights/rewards
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on August 31, 2016, 12:27:34 AM
So lovely, but so expensive. Aargh! Not happening.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 31, 2016, 12:37:23 AM
Return of White Knight's renaissance hobbit & gobbos. They get around more than...  :engel:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/482044771/shortwars-halfling-and-goblin-tabletop-war-game-mi/description
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 31, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
Knights.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/536771983/mounted-rennaisance-knights/rewards
Those look great! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 31, 2016, 03:35:10 PM
Return of White Knight's renaissance hobbit & gobbos. They get around more than...  :engel:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/482044771/shortwars-halfling-and-goblin-tabletop-war-game-mi/description
And this looks great, too! :icon_cool: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 02, 2016, 07:00:24 PM
Giant Lovers  :icon_question:

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Myths%20of%20Albion/1_zpsclrmvwz6.jpg~original)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Myths%20of%20Albion/6_zpsdmzemuwa.jpg~original)

More info here ..........

http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47894
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: steveb on September 02, 2016, 07:03:51 PM
nice giants! steveb
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on September 17, 2016, 01:29:56 PM
Not Empire related, but they are very well designed and might be of interest to some:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/554542735/greenskin-wars

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/013/679/846/a1b9dd28a230c26a40a556a3234c0020_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1473512948&auto=format&q=92&s=a46b950a27578491014e609cf50b97d1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on September 17, 2016, 03:49:36 PM
Knights.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/536771983/mounted-rennaisance-knights/rewards

Some painted examples of the foot knights from the previous kickstarter including a size comparison:

http://chrisfigurines.blogspot.co.at/2016/08/steelfist-16th-century-knights.html
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iV9IT6c-KQw/V6mTjv4cvQI/AAAAAAAABXM/U-xs4tEsF0g4XzbExUIk74NRwqnv6uQgwCLcB/s1600/DSC_0298.JPG)

http://xulutec.blogspot.co.at/
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9Xt7pKr7V-8/V8KJF5rVvqI/AAAAAAAABxo/u4YsfWvbPG46sE9d1tTI8l_zfsMNb6ZGgCLcB/s640/DSC06002.JPG)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Iinsut2m67k/V6DxC9ETaGI/AAAAAAAABv0/izEXzBYH_AkPWBvWw80QjJq9tSf38lJQQCLcB/s1600/IMG_1892.JPG)
from left to right: Foundry, Pro Gloria, Steelfist, Pro Gloria, Steefist
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on September 20, 2016, 11:39:09 AM
Artwork for the new plastic Barbarians kit from North Star


(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14359092_1373963579299207_5197058420071110940_n.jpg?oh=41c5d886e31fe7f27d495c9623bfda33&oe=5866721F)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Ursa Doom on September 22, 2016, 01:01:04 PM
Here is a preview picture of them.

(http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/gallery/13836-220916125834.jpeg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 16, 2016, 01:25:55 PM
...... and here are the sprues ...............


(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Barbarian-Sprue-1-394x380.jpg)

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Barbarian-Sprue-2-394x380.jpg)

5 Bodies
10 Heads

So many more uses than just for Frostgrave.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 24, 2016, 05:34:47 PM

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14708384_1407543539274544_7666999270547322195_n.jpg?oh=7d6ce66d3313c70ac3dfd00204251ede&oe=58A3CEBD)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14590464_1407543685941196_480479633187072669_n.jpg?oh=67c7046db7badea28727723d748e76ef&oe=58A76144)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 06, 2016, 12:45:41 AM
Sorceresses by puppets war - probably inspired by The Witcher games.

(http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Female-Adventurers.jpg)

(https://puppetswar.eu/img/p/612-2184-thickbox.jpg)
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=612

I think I will have to get those.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on November 06, 2016, 05:48:09 PM
Good find! Some of them look quite badass.

Speaking of which, does anybody have a suggestion where I might find female heads with the faces half-shrouded? Like this famous lady: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KitanaMKXRender.png
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 06, 2016, 07:22:45 PM
I would suggest just getting some heads and using greenstuff. Such a scarf is rather easy to do - even for beginners.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 06, 2016, 08:46:45 PM
Statuesque models do some lovely female heads.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on November 06, 2016, 11:52:34 PM
I've got a couple of sets coming out after the first of the year. One with elaborate hair and the other with carnival masks.

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/14182277_1096772000415178_886063501_n.jpg?oh=203f399750650ee90e35cee05361019f&oe=5821C57D)

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/14877675_1155513561207688_673341137_n.jpg?oh=257f6a0b3276e4ab33b001f88c293ad7&oe=5821D6C1)

https://www.facebook.com/Dark-Maenad-Games-510801642436345/ (https://www.facebook.com/Dark-Maenad-Games-510801642436345/)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 07, 2016, 12:30:16 AM
FB page followed! When can we order your stuff?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on November 07, 2016, 12:34:03 AM
FB page followed! When can we order your stuff?

Thank you,

Hopefully the first two girls within the next two weeks. I have really struggled with the best way to sell them. At the moment I am thinking about selling them directly through the Facebook page. Annie Norman has graciously offered to sell them through her shop, but Annie is so busy I have had a hard time communicating with her.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 07, 2016, 01:55:42 AM
I use http://www.storenvy.com for selling custom vinyl toys, painted minis, and art. If you just use basic functionality and decline being included in their Marketplace, it's totally free (minus your usual PayPal fees.) Easy to set up, you can track stock, print invoices, and get use of simple discount codes. If you sell via the Marketplace, they take a percentage, and if you want add-ons (more discount codes, marketing tools, etc.) you pay a fee.

Depending on your technology comfort level, you can also set up sales buttons right in PayPal, then copy & paste the code right into a web site, blog, etc. (Speaking of which, there are a few options for cheap & easy sites/blogs, if you're interested.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 07, 2016, 02:00:08 AM
If you have access to website hosting with .php and SQL functionality, and a DB backend, I have code for a very nicely featured store I can let you have.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on November 07, 2016, 02:15:39 AM
Thanks guys, I am painfully inept at webdesign. ZeroTwentythree, that sounds like it's worth taking a look at, I'll check it out.

I will also be taking some size comparison shots between my girls and the usual suspects and posting them soon.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 07, 2016, 03:41:53 AM
Also, forgot to mention, there is a Storevy app on Facebook. You can add a Store tab on FB, and it will display items and "buy" buttons from your Storenvy shop.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Akbar on November 07, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
Looking forward to the release!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on November 26, 2016, 10:45:07 PM
"9th Age" Albion pegasus knights from Fireforge...

http://www.fireforge-games.com/webstore/9th-age/foot-sergeants-16-details

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/IMG_2415.jpg)

Didn't know that Fireforge were getting into Fantasy, but it makes sense for them to step into the Bretonnian void medieval fantasy market.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on November 28, 2016, 02:32:57 PM
Well, thankfully there's a tired joke ruined . . .
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on December 04, 2016, 08:48:31 PM
Two more things from Puppet Wars that might be interesting to some:

Bodies usabel for Priests/Flagellants/Acolytes/Monks
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=614

A cathedral
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=419

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 14, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
Apparently Fireforge are working on some Scandinavian Infantry ..............................

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/src/thumbs/475699d297afae315ef802312426354e_720x480.jpg)

Don't tell Mathi ............................

and they released these at Crisis in November - not sure if we have discussed their Medieval Archers set already ...............

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/src/thumbs/7e64c4d2a4a242251ffdaa790b21fa01_720x480.jpg)


and whilst we're in Fireforge mode, not sure if we have mentioned these Russians?

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/cache/4147ca3af8bf81f64b5d738c371bfecb_XL.jpg)

I bought some at SELWG in October and they are really good. Bit skinny for matching with GW size plastics, but good historical figures to match up with all the other Dark Ages/Medieval plastics out there from Gripping Beast, Perry, Northstar etc.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 14, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
The Scandinavians could be Nordland, Ostland, maybe even Middenland.

The archers look more like Brets.

The Russians could be Kislev.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Gneisenau on December 14, 2016, 09:47:04 PM
The Russians could be Kislev.

Don't give them ideas!

The models look nice, though.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Artobans Ghost on December 15, 2016, 01:26:56 AM
Like those Scandinavians.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on December 15, 2016, 03:43:44 AM
The Russians could be Kislev.

Don't give them ideas!

The models look nice, though.

They are rather small, significantly more than the Sergeants. The Firecast resin minis though are near spot on to GW scale 28mm humans, or at least the Russian militia ones. The material is very similar to finecast though a bit better some of the casts on the feet are not so good. Using them to make Kislev Streltsi, ideally I'll have so pic up before the new year after the pre-Christmas rush dies down.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 17, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
A good bit expensive, but they look good ...

http://www.steelfistminiatures.com/products/16th_century_knights
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 21, 2016, 08:42:52 AM
Anybody short of a skull or two ......................................

(http://northstarfigures.com/images/6/img8816.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on December 25, 2016, 02:16:34 AM
Needs more skulls.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 25, 2016, 03:05:17 AM
On that note....

http://skullandcrown.blogspot.com/2016/12/on-workbench-introducing-triumph-of.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5CxHmZZgbvI/WFTizqb2E7I/AAAAAAAAE64/XV1R8HV63qwlGZxObGxlQKUOdmSoDBq0gCLcB/s1600/Triumph%2Bof%2BDeath%2BSkull%2Band%2BCrown%2B3%2Bhalberds%2Bfront_01.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0BCGXEWNmoc/WFTmvWlhLNI/AAAAAAAAE7I/BCYhalU8Gncl6w0FPjERDAfLySygcfx7ACLcB/s1600/Totentanz_04.jpg)

Upcoming skeletons inspired by 16th century art.

Skeletons. Landsknechts. My two major projects. Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on December 25, 2016, 09:33:05 AM
Those skeletons are the best I've ever seen, because of their inspiration. Amazing work.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 26, 2016, 10:42:51 AM
WHAT! Scandinavian medieval infantry! With kettlehats!

And NO ONE HERE told ME!

There will be torching..

 ::heretic:: ::heretic:: ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 26, 2016, 12:39:20 PM
I said "Don't tell Mathi"     :biggriin:

They're not released yet and I don't want you getting over excited with your new woman and everything...............
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 26, 2016, 12:46:25 PM
I am so going to make a Brotherhood army for Kings of War out of them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Konrad von Richtmark on February 14, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Those "Scandinavians", when I first saw them, my thought was "Normans whose assimilation into French has progressed about 37%"
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 17, 2017, 05:22:04 AM


https://www.deadearth.co.uk/product-category/sc/

Stag & Bear riders.... demi-griff and/or Kislev alternatives?  :-D

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 11, 2017, 03:59:21 AM

Ral Partha Europe pirate dwarfs. I think Marienburg may need a few of these.

https://www.facebook.com/RPEMiniaturesAndGames/photos/pcb.1152658478178316/1152656611511836/?type=3&theater


(https://scontent.fcmh1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17264162_1152656611511836_4093691877268186229_n.jpg?oh=54b8fb2918a282d997a077d26ce02e94&oe=592DEB45)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 11, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
I like them, yet wonder if they are the standard Ral Partha size, because if they are, then it'll be more like 25mm at best than 28mm or GW 28mm.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 11, 2017, 03:06:14 PM
I think most of the more recent RP & RPE stuff has been closer to the usual "heroic" scale stuff. It's mostly the older stuff -- like the re-released "Chaos Wars" stuff -- that that looks out of scale.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 12, 2017, 06:28:34 AM
Ah, good to learn.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on March 17, 2017, 07:15:37 PM
Here they are - someone tell Mathi
(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17361979_1572991066063123_3900503136217624357_n.jpg?oh=5fa169668007aa94fa3e517b84388254&oe=5967BA9E)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Artobans Ghost on March 17, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
These guys are fantastic! 👆
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on March 18, 2017, 06:14:14 AM
Seems like a broad range of shield styles. They look a bit small, even compared to some of  the other historical figures. Would be interested in a scale shot. Still, they look good - I like the sculpting quality.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on March 18, 2017, 04:33:21 PM
Seems like a broad range of shield styles. They look a bit small, even compared to some of  the other historical figures. Would be interested in a scale shot. Still, they look good - I like the sculpting quality.

My guess is they used the same cores as the Russians, all the pics of seen suggest as such, meaning they will be rather small. Of the Fireforge stuff I've picked up these are the smallest, their Resins are on par with even GW 28mm and the Men at Arms are close to true 28mm but the Russian plastics considerably smaller and with oddly large plastic stands for some reason. I might pic there fellows up, heads might work well to diversify my Kislevites.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on March 18, 2017, 06:51:14 PM
Here they are - someone tell Mathi
(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17361979_1572991066063123_3900503136217624357_n.jpg?oh=5fa169668007aa94fa3e517b84388254&oe=5967BA9E)
The one on the far right almost looks like Mathi! :icon_eek: :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Baron von Klatz on March 31, 2017, 05:15:14 AM
I rarely go outside the GW range but I saw this posted of ex-citadel models.

https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/collections/ex-citadel

Not sure if this is news or not.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on March 31, 2017, 06:21:59 AM
Oh, 'tis news for me at least!

I knew of the Blandford warriors (where are they now?), but the Fishmen, Wixards, Militia & Beasts of Burden I didn't know about.

Seems the Warmonger miniatures have really launched, very good website, nicely painted minis.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 05, 2017, 03:12:04 AM
I posted about this before, but the KS just went live.

I'm torn... I really like these figures and want to back it. But I feel like I'm going in too many directions lately and my purchases are outpacing my ability to make use of figures. They could easilly find a home as mercenaries for Marienburg, though...  :unsure:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/550360615/captain-redbeards-pirate-dwarves

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/016/081/259/e6cdb804596c4f39c704ddf2d7095565_original.jpg?w=1024&h=576&fit=fill&bg=000000&v=1490973909&auto=format&q=92&s=3b99d79a38877830a867a2f727bce39c)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 10, 2017, 07:46:35 PM
Not my cup of tea but it might appeal to some, and particularly 023

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Myths%20of%20Albion/Revenants_zps0xunawe4.jpg~original)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad342/Conquest_Games/Myths%20of%20Albion/Revenants%20Mtd%202_zpszxjpbp38.jpg~original)

Conquest Games - Myths of Albion range
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on April 11, 2017, 10:32:13 PM
I rarely go outside the GW range but I saw this posted of ex-citadel models.

https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/collections/ex-citadel

Not sure if this is news or not.

Me either, but its so cool!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 13, 2017, 02:15:10 PM
North Star are making plastic dwarfs for some reason.

(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17861544_1607501032612126_8696385876529115204_n.jpg?oh=3a62704c6d0d857e421cf71f8e63a849&oe=5989B98F)

(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17903642_1607500605945502_8640040568083277795_n.jpg?oh=8a9ac7b0843357a90e724fb7ce83fc83&oe=59988DF8)
Looks like you can arm them with bows, hand weapons or spears from each sprue.

Elves and Goblins to follow apparently.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 13, 2017, 02:49:57 PM
weird
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 13, 2017, 03:33:54 PM
It's a tie up with Osprey, so maybe there is a game involved as well.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on April 13, 2017, 05:40:35 PM
Very nice plastic dwarfs there. Promising!

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on April 15, 2017, 03:49:22 AM
I think Northstar is trying to fill the gap in generic fantasy plastics, as Osprey does the same with games. I haven't looked into Rogue Stars yet, but it sounds like a similar story -- generic/open sci-fi.

Not sure what it is about them, but I'm not fond of the skeletons.

Hey... double dwarf pirate time! Another KS -- this one from Macrocosm. They've also unlocked a pirate halfling crew stretch goal.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2076383099/old-salt-28mm-pirate-dwarves

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 27, 2017, 09:13:28 AM
New quick intro to the next Frostgrave plastics.

https://www.facebook.com/northstarmilitaryfigures/posts/1625544834141079

It's a short video format which I cannot extract into pics format.  :biggriin:

I did get a couple of the new dwarf sprues at Salute - look good at first hand. They're leaner and taller than other dwarfs, and I have a suspicion some of the arms would transfer to the other Frostgrave plastic sets quite nicely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 27, 2017, 10:35:29 AM
yeh, the NS dwarves are fine, but just don't fit the dwarves i want or already have.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 27, 2017, 10:41:43 AM
yeh, the NS dwarves are fine, but just don't fit the dwarves i want or already have.

I haven't tried to build one yet - you can look at the sprue later tonight ..................  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on April 27, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
 :::cheers:::

I quite like those pirates, but alas too late. Good thing as I probably don't need more dwarves or halflings really!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on May 11, 2017, 10:53:57 AM
I find it weird that there are still no news about those gorgeous plastic Pro Gloria Landsknechts.
I can't even remember who bought them anymore. Was it Warlord games?
Maybe Renaissance miniatures don't sell that well, or maybe they just wanted to flush out the competition...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 11, 2017, 11:09:56 AM
I find it weird that there are still no news about those gorgeous plastic Pro Gloria Landsknechts.
I can't even remember who bought them anymore. Was it Warlord games?
Maybe Renaissance miniatures don't sell that well, or maybe they just wanted to flush out the competition...

Warlord Games, yes. Sadly, there hasn't been much, if any, news in the last couple of months/years about them. There is a thread on their forum, were people estimated the possible release date to be in late 2017 or sometime in 2018. I certainly didn't expect it to be that long (will be 3-4 years after the kickstarter campaign).

http://www.warlordgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=22130&start=30
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 12, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
I think that having a project like this -- with appeal to both historical and fantasy gamers, plus the ability to slip into the post WFB gap like some of the other manufacturers have done -- just disappear from the market like this is a real shame. Especially given how developed it was, and supported by an initial batch of metal figures.

Still, there are great metal figures available -- Artizan, Foundry, TAG, etc. Even the Old Glory landscknecht pikemen are among their better figures, in my opinion. (I regret selling the ones I painted...)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 12, 2017, 02:48:10 PM
I gave up waiting and bought one each of the metal regiment deals, then a few of the smaller packs when I got a 15% voucher off them.

They are nice, and I have several of the others 023 mentioned - except Old Glory.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 13, 2017, 01:59:34 AM
I believe I may have posted about these before, but the KS just started. "Triumph of Death" renaissance inspired skeletons:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/23535743/renaissance-skeleton-army-28mm-miniatures-for-game

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DCbYhlQ1cpE/WOrjUcrpR8I/AAAAAAAAFQE/M37M-3K7Eh4iEtSRdGAx-xLFO0DNS-uKgCLcB/s1600/Skull%2Band%2BCrown%2BTriumph%2Bof%2BDeath%2BSkeletons%2Bfight%2BLandsknects%2Bside%2B01.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 13, 2017, 11:28:08 AM
Tempting!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Finlay on May 14, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
I like those a lot, cool skellies!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 14, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
Those skeletons are incredible.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 18, 2017, 11:23:23 AM
El Cheapo teutogen guards (+ other Empire miniatures):

http://norbaminiatures.com/es/26-imperio

(http://norbaminiatures.com/651-thickbox_default/guardia-teutona-teutogena-imperio.jpg)


Sulpting and casting quality is a bit too crude for my taste, but the price is quite decent (especially when compared to ebay prices for the GW teutogen guard miniatures)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 18, 2017, 11:57:51 AM
From another Spanish miniature company:

El Cheapo Reiksguard knights (?) (+ other Empire/Estalian miniatures) :-D: 

https://www.momminiaturas.com/miniaturas-fantasia/hijos-del-grifo/

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/MOM_Ritter.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 18, 2017, 12:06:17 PM
I'm not a fan of the riders, but the horses look somewhat interesting. The miniatures have a baroque theme going on, which is a nice change I suppose.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on May 19, 2017, 10:53:14 AM
Those are mounted on 25x50mm bases? They barely fit, so the figures must be absolutely huge even for 28mm 'heroic'. Maybe mounting them on 50x75mm bases would result in good substitute for the GW chickens.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: White Knight on May 21, 2017, 10:14:35 AM
I don't think I've ever posted my own stuff to this thread.

Since I've got bills to pay, now seems like a good time...  :engel:

http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.be/search/label/Getting%20Some%20Humans (http://whiteknightminiatureimperium.blogspot.be/search/label/Getting%20Some%20Humans)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OOV3hWDHLOU/WPTuBPgI1uI/AAAAAAAADQY/0SSujpyBP_ISK3ZK5p_-xYEEYYMFk02tACLcB/s1600/wk-witchhunters.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w198/svennnthedhnut/1-DSCF0888_zpsfqoa2nca.jpg~original)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y18yXdAnCGM/VETpRX6buSI/AAAAAAAABw0/i7Kd1SVLHDU/s1600/hackbut%2B010s.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XmaDoGd4KZg/V6W79VvSbEI/AAAAAAAACiM/wegJyIMgyfI4dPROmE6CxlMNGICEB8XhgCLcB/s1600/priest.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ztqrvWzgmXE/WR3rNdCekOI/AAAAAAAADSo/Hopmtd0n_QUsUb_Lkko3ztIp9aopZ_6MwCLcB/s1600/gbf4.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-27L3tBQFsmw/WR3rMy_yReI/AAAAAAAADSc/bB361qEN30AoPxAV3L20xokYHwxe7uhJQCLcB/s1600/gbf2.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iOAg6q7cjtU/WJjcqaiN4ZI/AAAAAAAADOc/KVnnA4mF0s0QlyoBQi-G-GgMJWchiyS9ACLcB/s1600/WKM-18.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZmLJL8egtdo/VsYMP71-_CI/AAAAAAAACV0/rllV4bJcj8U/s1600/dk0.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-999mze_8vLU/VwfIaRr2W_I/AAAAAAAACXI/iTzAIoP7Nec_bXanvAzvW60n_i4Mw8poQ/s1600/wkm10a.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RmyC4-Ww7E4/VsBPtJXAjzI/AAAAAAAACVQ/hxrMFL5lb_cCOvNoipz7osLw4hgKZE8qA/s1600/boars5.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g-GM7WINHvc/Uef8FnM0lvI/AAAAAAAABPw/0fkDeJr5W2Q/s1600/b.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8UULjNnZcEM/VXxNLzrrZ4I/AAAAAAAACCo/-UmcniD5bP4/s1600/WKH0211.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zFBMvmQ-Gtg/VQ2HQZSaKMI/AAAAAAAAB4c/4VFVnMghyRo/s1600/WKH0106.jpg)

etc...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 21, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
I am currently building around 40 on my desk  right now - they really are fabulous, and the knights go so well with the Marauder Reiksguard on foot.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 25, 2017, 02:22:59 PM

(http://www.fireforge-games.com/media/k2/items/cache/7e58113966c67085953dd45e2ed189c9_M.jpg)

Plastic Byzantines
So new they're not even on the Fireforge site yet ..................
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Artobans Ghost on May 25, 2017, 09:45:38 PM
Nice units!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on May 26, 2017, 10:53:18 AM
Plastic Byzantines
So new they're not even on the Fireforge site yet ..................

Hmmm looks like another set using the Rus/Scandinavian cores with new heads and arms most likely.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 16, 2017, 01:06:01 PM
See this:


The wait is nearly over!   

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/71ca505c950f8867eb0fa9748/images/3b6d3b94-5457-42ce-acca-183278a9b54e.jpg)

Today's Warlord Games newsletter

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on June 16, 2017, 04:54:39 PM
Alaarrm! Alaarrm! Alaarrm :-o :-o :-o :-o
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on June 17, 2017, 08:46:42 AM
Now this is news!  :-D

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on June 17, 2017, 11:19:49 AM
Wooohooo! I have no need whatsoever for these! I will take three boxes!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on June 19, 2017, 04:25:30 AM
so wait, could someone spell it out for the rest of us: are these the sculpts from the failed pro gloria kickstarter?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on June 19, 2017, 07:13:03 AM
so wait, could someone spell it out for the rest of us: are these the sculpts from the failed pro gloria kickstarter?

Yes!

Not all the sculpts, though. It seems they've chosen ten bodies to fit a single frame, while Pro Gloria had more bodies sculpted. It also seems they've done some armament/gadgets in addition to those shown in the Pro Gloria Kickstarter.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on June 19, 2017, 11:09:15 AM
Are there any new pictures yet?

I just hope they will be somewhat compatible with Empire plastic kits and won't be quite as small as their metal miniatures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Konrad von Richtmark on June 19, 2017, 11:12:02 AM
Warlord plastic Landsknechts. I'll be damned. I bought a bunch of metal landsknechts from Warlord, Artizan and Foundry a bit ago, but have gotten nowhere near painting them. Will be interesting to see what they're like.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Alex-bbr on June 19, 2017, 08:55:14 PM
See this:


The wait is nearly over!   

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/71ca505c950f8867eb0fa9748/images/3b6d3b94-5457-42ce-acca-183278a9b54e.jpg)

Today's Warlord Games newsletter

I wait for ythese guys since so many time... can't wait to buy them! 3 box too.  :biggriin:

Do you have a link of the warlord games newsletter ? I dind't find it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 19, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
I've forwarded the email using the address you have listed here.

@msn.com

It is strange - I cannot find it anywhere on their site either.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on June 20, 2017, 06:05:22 AM
Looks like the info was only included in the letter they sent to their registered customers (who have ordered the newsletter). Then one site had a little bit more info because they knew people. Still, no pictures of sprues or exact list of contents.

I guess Warlord wants to sell as much of their metal stock as possible before releasing the plastics. Or, rather, they want the fans to build up the hype for them - a proven concept of zero budget advertising. :)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on June 20, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
I have waited more than 3 years for these - I'm done buidling any hype. I want some solid infos.   :dry::closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 20, 2017, 12:39:56 PM
No waiting here, and recently bought a slew of other landsknects, not sure if I'll buy any of these or not.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 20, 2017, 01:02:44 PM
You can never have too many Landsknechts  :engel:

Basically you can paint them in multi-colours, so no real restrictions on which army they can fight for.   :biggriin:

Amongst others, I have metals from Artizan, Foundry, the Warlord Games (Pro Gloria) and like GP some due shortly from a recent Adam Holmes KS.
The ones I have already all match sizewise pretty well, and so I expect the new plastics to fit too.
It will be interesting to see if they are solely Italian or whether there will be bits to make Swiss for example.

I have some Pendraken which are a bit chunky, and not my favourites, but I have 'lost' them in rear ranks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Alex-bbr on June 20, 2017, 02:32:49 PM
I asked on the warlord game forum few month ago to know where were these landsknechts. I had an answer one month ago :

Quote
I spoke to John Stallard on this a couple of months ago. At that time he told me that they'd just gone in for moulding. The plan was to have a sprue with 10 bodies on it. These could all be made up as pike or (I *think*) up to 2 could be made as arquebus/handgunners. At the time I had that conversation I was told that they expected to be able to release them in about 5-6 months.

I hope they have shortened the release date.  :-D
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on June 20, 2017, 05:48:59 PM

It will be interesting to see if they are solely Italian or whether there will be bits to make Swiss for example.


Italian?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 20, 2017, 06:40:10 PM

It will be interesting to see if they are solely Italian or whether there will be bits to make Swiss for example.


Italian?

Warlord Games have the Pro Gloria metals in their Pike & Shotte - Italian Wars section.
I am speculating that it is where they are likely to add these new plastics.  :engel:

If they have cut the original designs to 10 bodies that may make them less 'flexible' than the first plans.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on June 20, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
That doesn't necessarily mean that they are Italians. The Landsknechts were primarily German mercenaries who fought in conflicts all over western Europe. The Italian Wars were a series of conflicts over the course of several decades and almost all of the Western-European powers were involved in some way or another.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 20, 2017, 07:24:11 PM
I bow to your knowledge.
I admitted  elsewhere I was somewhat ignorant of this era.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on June 20, 2017, 07:28:36 PM
Indeed. The Landsknechte were competitors to and often mortal enemies of the Swiss mercenaries (Reislδufer).
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Konrad von Richtmark on June 22, 2017, 07:04:00 PM
The Italian Wars were Italian primarily in the sense that Italy was the theatre and the prize fought over. The main contestants were the House of Habsburg and the House of Valois, and the main prize was the Kingdom of Naples. Actual Italian states played a secondary role, engaging in their usual games of thrones in the shadow of the clash between these two royal dynasties.

While pretty much all European states started raising similar kinds of pike and shot armies at some point during the Renaissance, Landsknechts refers specifically to the German kind, wearing the extravagant puff and slash style we know from the Warhammer Empire. They and their Swiss equivalent were indeed mortal enemies, with the Landsknechts having originally been chartered by Holy Roman Emperor Maximilian von Habsburg as a specific counter to Swiss pike, in an (unsuccessful) attempt to put an end to Swiss independence. During the Italian Wars, Swiss pikemen were often in French employ, and thus repeatedly ended up clashing with Landsknechts in battle. Pushes of pike between Swiss and Landsknechts became particularly infamous for being bloody in the extreme, with a combination of exceptional discipline and sheer hatred negating the inhibition against marching straight into a spiky pointy formation of doom, making them instead go full ham at each other.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on June 23, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
.... making them instead go full ham ....

(https://i.imgflip.com/1rdosn.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/1rdosn) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 23, 2017, 05:44:38 PM
Now the back of the box.

(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/71ca505c950f8867eb0fa9748/images/29e006ff-dc07-44fd-8f38-c9589ab50792.jpg)

Not sure if you can read the text, but it does say that:
Quote
     
"The figures in this boxed set can be used to represent the Landsknechts raised in Gerany or the Tyrol as well as early Swiss pike regiments"
 

Quote
Plastic components to make either 30 pikemen, or 24 pikemen and 5 arquebusiers.

Command Sprue with options for officers, standar bearers , drummers, etc.,

Background guide with 5 colour flags 

Not sure about the maths of 24+5 but we'll see.

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on June 23, 2017, 08:41:04 PM
Finally!

I will be getting a box for sure.  :happy:

Any speculations about the price? I've never ordered anything from Warlord games so I have no idea about that.
I've seen prices around 20$, but I don't think those were multipart kits.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on June 24, 2017, 02:35:54 PM
Several for me I think. Soon, oh so soon, I will conquer the world! HAhahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on June 28, 2017, 01:35:55 AM
Quote
Plastic components to make either 30 pikemen, or 24 pikemen and 5 arquebusiers.

Command Sprue with options for officers, standar bearers , drummers, etc.,

Background guide with 5 colour flags 

Not sure about the maths of 24+5 but we'll see.
Hmmm ... obviously 30 does not equal 24 + 5. :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on June 29, 2017, 08:35:52 PM
Maybe one of the pikemen is made from 5 arquebuses, cunningly assembled a la Voltron.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 29, 2017, 08:52:23 PM
Sounds like a conversion that needs to happen...

Alternately, one of the pikemen simply is an arquibus who is needed for one of the five firing arquibusiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on June 30, 2017, 08:22:57 AM
Sounds like a conversion that needs to happen...

Alternately, one of the pikemen simply is an arquibus who is needed for one of the five firing arquibusiers.

Surely that still leaves you with a spare body, that supposedly you cannot make a pikeman or a arquebusier out of yet you can make 30 pikemen.

I am guessing the 24 is a misprint  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 30, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
No, no... I'm almost certain one of the pikemen can replace his pike with the body of one of his comrades and fire him like a gun.

 :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Westfalia on June 30, 2017, 11:26:09 PM
Really, Michael outdid himself with this set and I am truely happy to see this happening.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 04, 2017, 03:50:46 PM
Do we have a confirmed released date for the ProGloriaWarlordPuffySlashDudes?

Because . . .


I asked on the warlord game forum few month ago to know where were these landsknechts. I had an answer one month ago :

Quote
I spoke to John Stallard on this a couple of months ago. At that time he told me that they'd just gone in for moulding. The plan was to have a sprue with 10 bodies on it. These could all be made up as pike or (I *think*) up to 2 could be made as arquebus/handgunners. At the time I had that conversation I was told that they expected to be able to release them in about 5-6 months.

I hope they have shortened the release date.  :-D

That quote (I found the original) is from April 24th. "A couple of months ago" should place the conversation with John in late February. Six months from then would be late August.

Anyone have any more information on it?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 07, 2017, 09:56:46 AM
Available now!

http://www.warlordgames.com/new-landsknechts-landsknecht-officers/

https://us-store.warlordgames.com/products/landsknechts-pikemen
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: rufus sparkfire on July 07, 2017, 10:25:25 AM
Those are nice!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Trinkenessen on July 07, 2017, 11:29:15 AM
Forgetting the plastics for a minute,  MAX, GOTZ and GEORGE :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: and  some new officers :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:.
Things don't get better than this. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Darknight on July 07, 2017, 01:21:27 PM
Those are nice!

They are the Pro-Gloria ones from the Kickstarter many moons ago - I agree, they are very nice. I do not need more Empire infantry, but I will admit to being tempted :)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 07, 2017, 02:20:37 PM
I agree, they are very nice. I do not need more Empire infantry, but I will admit to being tempted :)

Same here. I'm sure I will pick up at least one box.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 07, 2017, 06:03:48 PM
About time! Edit: Just ordered a set.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on July 07, 2017, 09:03:14 PM
a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Alex-bbr on July 08, 2017, 07:52:28 AM
I do not need more Empire infantry, but I will admit to being tempted :)

We always need more Empire infanry!  :biggriin:

2 box ordered. Finally, FINALLY, we get these box!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Alex-bbr on July 08, 2017, 07:52:44 AM
Error. Please supr!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 08, 2017, 01:15:08 PM
a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!

Yes, please!

Sadly, they apparently got rid of some head, body and arm variants that were originally planned:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/plastic-landsknecht-box#/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 08, 2017, 01:48:07 PM
I think when I order a box (or boxes?) I will pick up the pack of metal figures with the shoe seller - as a sign of where GW's state troops went wrong, and where these went right.  :wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 09, 2017, 02:54:04 AM
Forgetting the plastics for a minute,  MAX, GOTZ and GEORGE :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: and  some new officers :biggriin: :biggriin: :biggriin:.
Things don't get better than this. :icon_cool:
Those do look good! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on July 18, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!

my offer still stands! The first picture of happy people with their merchandise have come up in my facebook. No scale shots yet though
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on July 18, 2017, 05:14:55 PM
a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!

my offer still stands! The first picture of happy people with their merchandise have come up in my facebook. No scale shots yet though

I think Michael Anderson or Pro Gloria posted some back when they were first sculpted. Let me check.

Never mind, they were three ups weren't they. The mind plays tricks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 22, 2017, 03:08:26 AM
So .. it's been two weeks. Still no comparison pictures anywhere?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 26, 2017, 12:22:01 PM
I found this quick review:

http://xulutec.blogspot.co.at/2017/07/warlord-landsknecht-box-short-review.html
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YpRlela_ZBw/WW5bpNVLoGI/AAAAAAAACJA/btrEJ07yJEcYHjb_QGLM1sL69ivU8wEZwCLcBGAs/s400/DSC06288.JPG)

Sadly, they are just as small as the old Pro Gloria metal miniatures. But it would still be great, if someone could post pictures of how well these plastic bits mix with GW miniatures.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on July 26, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
Thanks, Victor.

To me it looks okay'ish next to the plastic greatswords.

what's up with the tugging their belts in so much on these models? is that historical?  :icon_wink: Looks even more painful than a corset.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 26, 2017, 11:59:27 PM

More pics here:

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=56950.msg1273469#msg1273469

From what I can tell, I'll be OK with the size/scale. They will most directly be alongside older GW plastic & lead & Foundry lead. I think the onky ones that might look odd are the old spearmen from the WFB boxed game and some of the old lead - both of which already look large compared to the rest.

A little more bothered by some of the posing & detail critiques, but I'll still pick up a box to see for myself. (Though I've made myself a deal/goal - I have to paint the Fondry lead before buying more landsknechts, plastic or otherwise.)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 27, 2017, 05:01:30 AM
(https://2opivw.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4m6AxyYgX3u27SRO4MaiFO0i2QoRcTIQBrImV_iloxC7GzdmHfmLZ2Nsa-NhOv_rHE-SgmGsIoPzTug7R-CTP6pwb4gn1iD1v1e54NVGNF9LaJo5lJIyXHk8T9cJC_oZWRBrdCXNxXx3RA7BVk4-PQ53UObudqhiSw6CvSozVopXKyJy6bPl8uEIkao1jYqIOXy0OJyssoroIMlRLYPSDMaQ?width=1024&height=578&cropmode=none)

(https://adpoqg.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4mCWtXA1bZN7VMcucHAl0EBG9r7p7vjiTV39uMbQlZGYLuG34Y1Yx9b8CyNrwni3Lyj1aPskVjwIcOohEphGa2DRHjkeK3e9FGe0l9pGcaHbmVhucMyBND_fqW1Lip5zAn2xQJx6UiHRqj_6VoaATFUrilmWV3VGoaG1_w8PWLeSrRmwrI1_pH0ugZNG3q-FSZIlRaHNGa1TtfwunTdmGBYw?width=1024&height=578&cropmode=none)

Second picture: Perry Hundred Year War body with GW head and arms to the left.

They're a bit weedy. If GW is 28mm, these guys are 25mm with heads that are slightly too large.

Anyway, I'm not really complaining, they look good.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bone on July 27, 2017, 07:11:36 AM
I have to say I am disappointed. These guys are way too small to fit into a pike/halberd box together with those of GW...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on July 27, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
what's up with the tugging their belts in so much on these models? is that historical?  :icon_wink: Looks even more painful than a corset.

That is indeed historical. Even the armour was waisted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on July 27, 2017, 03:42:06 PM
I have tried one replica of those armour plates. It is like a bloody corset, but it sure did not fit me well...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 27, 2017, 03:52:36 PM
I have to say I am disappointed. These guys are way too small to fit into a pike/halberd box together with those of GW...
They might fit with the 6th edition plastic soldiers, but not with militia or 7th ed infantry plastics.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 27, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
(https://0zyekg.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4mT0HiIIbTRLWgaogoiSsfsw5JkJU3Pxo8qMXsTIGXw6xnWGAAkGX35KEBpqldmk9y_UuCVkySf6kRzPXstpU7FlEFnbJTIr1UrBhgelXwaK5YXx7xr4w0rIlai6_mmZ0ZuFnJKVyWstHIXIRmvQFEWEdU0KsiO1AV5ojQVKuwGUUdJFKPwphj4Kow98e33YP5HNVFMnAhFi2DTkGpLAKB-w?width=1024&height=578&cropmode=none)

(https://nij3hw.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4mDKyFO9nYPoKUxsOnPFpZ1ld9ca7ieP9944qNBAdMQGGBsAY-2cAhqFnoDiLl8tugMsKm04dUkSsMnzTVzsCtdjvtL2gPedltan7iO6Frg9oBedeyUmNUMJvUy-J0GckXdXmpqjvxd34FUWG_4VweXefBKF6WoyCwFQ39lZwOTPWmZYczc_QrFjvD_noFbdhbeXJiNpTJkQ-SXiaDATNesw?width=1024&height=578&cropmode=none)

(https://m7np5q.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4msMxDTthkyk31AbkufwQydHOT1LKofA0w0M6G3fHYom_A__hJdTUiwzT2a5PcvJHzRSIn1-ALXqTDAzWSdxc0TGq2Ca1HGP84s1jgfCCRKSf66DgBlDZyJfr9SQvW8YokNLtt0PYDDEieGSH8Fd35g6JbMwpoKYEPDG7VxnWpq4DiHGMIO2TepwkWaQE5wqux-hRQtdJxUaNEzrnvJ-3q_w?width=1024&height=578&cropmode=none)

A little more criticism: Some the heads, the helmeted ones, look wonky when attached. The neck collar is so tall that they all end up looking downwards, as you can tell. This is fine for one or two guys, but it looks odd for all the helmeted heads. This is easily fixed by cutting off the top bit of the collar.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on July 28, 2017, 12:00:47 AM
They might fit with the 6th edition plastic soldiers, but not with militia or 7th ed infantry plastics.
how about a couple pictures of just that?

(and I am relieved to see that not all of them have corsets as bad as that first guy)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 28, 2017, 12:36:08 AM
See above. It's the arquebusier next to assorted 6th and 5th edition empire/mordheim models.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on July 28, 2017, 07:55:07 AM
I have tried one replica of those armour plates. It is like a bloody corset, but it sure did not fit me well...

Still an opportunity not waisted, I guess
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on July 28, 2017, 10:44:25 PM
See above. It's the arquebusier next to assorted 6th and 5th edition empire/mordheim models.
sweet. didn't realize the shooters had the same bodies. thanks.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on July 29, 2017, 05:00:38 AM
This is bumbing me out. They almost seem as small as the way old Ral Partha line of landsknechts.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 30, 2017, 02:07:44 AM
Finished a few of them:

(http://i.imgur.com/hBZoSLg.jpg)

Right click and view image for more details.

I can really feel the impact of the slightly smaller scale when I'm painting eyes. Much less pronounced than GW.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 30, 2017, 02:25:16 AM
They look great painted up! Thanks for the pic & painting!

The pose complaints I read about don't bothet me. The shoulders on some of the figures, mayb a little odd. Obviously scaling with other figures may be another thing altogether. But I think a full unit of those guys on their own would look pretty good!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 30, 2017, 11:11:46 AM
Is there any chance that you can use these plastic heads (and arms?) on GW Empire plastic infantry miniatures? Would it look acceptable?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 30, 2017, 11:16:51 AM
Talking about heads - has anyone tried using these heads from Milriton on GW Empire miniatures yet?

http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=heads-medievalrenaissance

(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/ACH025.jpg)

(http://www.mirliton.it/images/catalog/ACH028.jpg)

I guess they will be a bit too small - they could fit those Warlord Landsknecht miniatures though.(?)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bone on July 31, 2017, 06:51:58 AM
Is there any chance that you can use these plastic heads (and arms?) on GW Empire plastic infantry miniatures? Would it look acceptable?

Second this question.

patsy02, could you also make more photos of those guys together with GW's state troops of 6 and 7 edition?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 31, 2017, 08:47:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wY7OzHb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FBlyJUT.jpg)

Two different Pro Gloria heads on 7th ed soldier body, and a 6th ed. soldier body.

(http://i.imgur.com/pQCf6s1.jpg)

Same Pro Gloria heads.
Left: 6th edition warmachine crew legs, 7th edition goldsword torso.
Right: 7th edition general legs with 6th edition starter set captain's torso.

(http://i.imgur.com/6Fnvld4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/J4vPfbD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NWBCB4F.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gnuuZaW.jpg)

Body: Pro Gloria. Arm: 7th edition goldsword.

1st picture: Head from 6th edition soldier kit
2nd picture: Head from 7th edition archer kit
3rd picture: Head from 6th edition militia kit
4th picture: Another head from 7th edition archer kit

Verdict:
Big beards, big hats, and big helmets make the head look larger than it actually is, regardless of manufacturer.

6th or 7th edition soldier body + bearded and helmeted Pro Gloria heads: go for it.
Pro Gloria body with certain beardless, hatless, smaller-looking GW heads: go for it, with precaution. (meaning some 6th ed. soldier heads and some 7th edition archer heads)

Other combinations: Avoid.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Sir Bone on August 01, 2017, 06:54:46 AM
patsy02, this is great, thank you so much!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Konrad von Richtmark on September 13, 2017, 12:08:07 PM
I was thinking of buying a couple of the Warlord plastic landsknecht boxes, but now I'm not so sure. The (metal) landsknecht pikemen I have bought so far are all with their pikes leveled for assault, or at most at a 45deg angle. I mean to use them as Empire halberdiers and spearmen, thus the issues a long, leveled pike would cause do not apply. Looking at the Warlord plastic sprue, it does not look like they could be sensibly assembled with leveled pikes. I might buy one box to use for kitbashing components though, those bodies look rather generically useful.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: SDPalmer12 on November 30, 2017, 03:32:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ooya1MI.jpg)



Need to base yet, but first unit of Warlord Landsknecht.  :smile2:

Scale wise they are a smidge smaller than the GW models, but they look fine as a whole unit next to the others.

War of the Roses Halberdiers and Archers to paint next....
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 30, 2017, 04:48:08 AM
I can see why they'd get by as Empire soldiers.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: SDPalmer12 on November 30, 2017, 02:04:52 PM
They definitely look thinner and slightly shorter than GW models, but are a fantastically good value buy.

I'll post a pic of the handgunners when completed
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 02, 2017, 12:31:46 AM
The criticisms I've read about the minis seem very minor now, seeing them ranked up like that. That's a fine looking unit of Empire soldiers!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: SDPalmer12 on December 04, 2017, 12:58:25 PM
^^^ thank you!

I quite like the lack of skulls blazoned all over them, and I think you get a good range of poses to utilize. I've not got 2 pikemen with exactly the same arms / head / torso out of the 24.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 23, 2017, 11:45:45 AM
New plastic knights from Conquest.

16 - YES 16  in a box - £20  ............ BUT only £15 on pre-order until Jan 2nd.

(http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/images/Medieval%20Knights.JPG)

(http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/images/11web.jpg)

http://www.conquest-games.co.uk/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 23, 2017, 02:12:54 PM
Those are good!  Thanks for posting!  What a value! :::cheers::: :::cheers::: :::cheers:::

Bought 2 boxes! Merry Christmas to me! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on December 27, 2017, 11:26:33 AM
I need more value for money minis to rebuild my Stirland/League of Rhordia army.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 27, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
Those knights are more like Bretonnians than Imperials.  However, Perry has some great figures for early renaissance knights and light cavalry.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 27, 2017, 12:22:05 PM
I buy stuff for its versatility these days.
28mm that fits more than one usage.

They are 'historical' as they are aimed at a certain medieval period, but as with Conquest's previous Norman Knights set you can get creative and some little work with greenstuff ribbons around the heads and you can quite easily have Andalusian knights for El Cid period.

Generally these may have a Bretonnian feel, but they are useful for lots of games - KOW or 9th Age, and then Lion Rampant, Dragon Rampant, and the aforementioned Warhammer Historical El Cid, as well as various other rules sets such as Swordpoint, Open Combat and others.   
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 27, 2017, 02:03:48 PM
I agree.  Can't wait for those Conquest medieval knights!

I'm imagining them as cavalry for a Day of Battle Italian Commune army.  But they'll be available for so much! :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on January 14, 2018, 12:32:08 PM
From Antediluvian Miniatures:

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Antediluvian-Miniatures-Previews-Januar1.jpg)

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Antediluvian-Miniatures-Previews-Januar2-e1515774643230.jpg)

Secondary Source: http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2018/antediluvian-entdecker-und-konquistadoren-preview/


(http://www.kinofilmer.de/wp-content/uploads/aguirre-der-zorn-gottes-1.jpg)



That DaVinci Wizard is especially good I think.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on January 14, 2018, 01:10:17 PM
I like 'em. :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on January 14, 2018, 05:42:38 PM
I like all of those.

Looked up Antediluvian and their fantasy range is definitely interesting. Once the minis above are released, I may have to place an order.

https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/shop-fantasy-range/

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 13, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
The new Archipelago expansion is out, and range of figures to match includes plastic Snakemen (or even lizardmen)  :icon_exclaim:

(http://downloads.northstarfigures.com/newsletter/images/DSCN3490.jpg)

(http://downloads.northstarfigures.com/newsletter/images/DSCN3497.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Von Kurst on February 18, 2018, 05:51:52 PM
Nice  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on February 19, 2018, 01:11:44 AM
Ha!  I like the idea of "snakemen". :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on February 23, 2018, 02:17:42 PM
and there seem to be loads of Vikings around at the moment.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/020/292/140/ecdbb805471af5ee1440fc8c4009de47_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1519100027&auto=format&q=92&s=b7cc0221e0d358d4c861874d725171a3)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/404694339/northmen/description

I bought some Pirates and Barbarians back in 2011 from the sculptor - lovely minis.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 21, 2018, 08:54:44 AM
Various new 28mm Landsknecht by Steelfist Miniatures:

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product-category/italian-wars-1494-1538-product_cat-19/

(https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/assets/uploads/2018/01/IMG_5515-600x600.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 22, 2018, 11:01:29 AM
Ugh, more landskneckts to buy. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: hamster on April 30, 2018, 02:33:56 AM
just found these on warlord, new additions to the landsknecht ranges

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0309/8965/products/202016002-Landsknechts-with-Zweihanders-01_1024x1024.jpg?v=1523618155)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0309/8965/products/202016002-Landsknechts-with-Zweihanders-box-front_1024x1024.jpg?v=1523618155)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0309/8965/products/202016003-Landsknechts-missile-troops-box-front_1024x1024.jpg?v=1523618138)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0309/8965/products/202016003-Landsknechts-missile-troops-01_1024x1024.jpg?v=1523618138)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 30, 2018, 03:22:11 PM
Interesting. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 30, 2018, 08:17:41 PM
If only they were a little bit bigger ...  :dry:

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Naitsabes on April 30, 2018, 08:49:33 PM
so for the halberds and zweihaender, since they say plastic and metal components does that mean it is the same exact plastic sprue as for the pikemen (i.e. with the pike arms) and then in addition metal halberd arms? those extra arms would be quite usable on some of the GW bodies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: hamster on May 01, 2018, 01:39:02 AM
so for the halberds and zweihaender, since they say plastic and metal components does that mean it is the same exact plastic sprue as for the pikemen (i.e. with the pike arms) and then in addition metal halberd arms? those extra arms would be quite usable on some of the GW bodies.


will say as soon as I get my hands on them
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 05, 2018, 08:07:50 PM
Got mine today.

To recap the Pikemen box:
It says 30 Pikemen and you get 5 sprues with 6 bodies and 9 heads - BUT you also get a half-size command sprue with bits to make an extra body so 31 in total as far as I can see.


The Zweihanders box has 4 sprues - the same armoured bodies (24) of the pikemen and the same choice of 9 heads. 2 Sprues are straight from the pikemen box, but you get 2 sprues where the pikes are changed for plastic two-handed swords. There are 6 sword arms on each sprue so maximum 12 zweihanders in total.
There are 12 separate metal halberd right arms.
No command sprue.
So you could do 12 and 12 and have 12 pikearms (right) left over BUT you have to use the left arms for the metal halberds - however I suspect some Edition 6 Soldiers of the Empire left arms will work with other plastic bodies one might have  :engel:


The Missile weapons box has 5 sprues with 6 different bodies (unarmoured) - again 9 heads BUT only 4 of them are the same as on the pikemen and zweihander sprues.
You get 6 crossbows and 6 handguns on each sprue so you can make however many you like up to 30 in total.
No command sprue.

So there is some flexibility with 14 different heads across the sets. I think I am going to do some research on the different 'looks' of Pikemen and Landsknechts.
Warlords say they cover German/Tyrol and Early Swiss on the box, but I also have metal Foundry, Artizan, and even Warlord's ECW plastic pikemen with morion helmets and it may be interesting to see if the heads from that set could be interspersed with these latest Italian Wars ones.

I am also waiting - along with GP - for the figures from a Kickstarter which also come into the reckoning. So I have about 200 figures to sort into appropriate regiments and styles.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 19, 2018, 05:03:28 AM

Just learned that the Goblin Factory halflings are once again available. (As well as their other small ranges.)

http://slave2gaming.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=72

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 22, 2018, 10:45:42 AM
These look quite good - Victrix Vikings

(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33094478_2063831883645703_2520273593678430208_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=9836f200ef56e87d551966817b81a724&oe=5B7C7EFE)

Plastic - the bodies all look the same though. Maybe back rankers to build up units?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 23, 2018, 05:15:58 AM
I read somewhere that this is just one of several bodies that will be in the kit.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on May 23, 2018, 08:04:59 AM
I read somewhere that this is just one of several bodies that will be in the kit.

Ah - good.
It did seem slightly unusual in these days of versatile plastic kits to go with one body, 2 heads and 3 weapon arms  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 23, 2018, 09:34:04 AM
Goblin Factory has made quite the range of "shortling" back there!

With the Vikings from Victrix, that'd be terrible if the figures all looked like that.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 20, 2018, 06:49:19 PM
The sprue for the new plastic Oathmark humans from NorthStar

(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37511267_2197707750258660_2145328489245442048_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=667a5c48c0a5721efc9b641f726dfcd3&oe=5BE85CAB)

Looks like all the options of weaponry are available for all 5 bodies.
I also assume these will work with previous Frostgrave plastic figures - should lead to some wonderful conversion options
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 20, 2018, 11:01:16 PM
Looks good! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 22, 2018, 03:21:20 AM

Looks like all the options of weaponry are available for all 5 bodies.
I also assume these will work with previous Frostgrave plastic figures - should lead to some wonderful conversion options

Looking forward to these. Saw a comment on FB that they will work with Frost grave bits. Not crazy about the rectangular shields, but I like everything else and have plenty of other options for shields.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on July 22, 2018, 11:30:30 AM

Looks like all the options of weaponry are available for all 5 bodies.
I also assume these will work with previous Frostgrave plastic figures - should lead to some wonderful conversion options

Looking forward to these. Saw a comment on FB that they will work with Frost grave bits. Not crazy about the rectangular shields, but I like everything else and have plenty of other options for shields.


……….. but you are not allowed to buy any new models  …………………..  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 23, 2018, 11:22:07 AM
I'll make myself a deal, if I get rid of something else, then I can get a box of these. It's all about the balance.  :wink:

Besides, there's always Christmas and my Birthday. I received a miniature Nas a gift for the first time last year (granted, it was only because of Stranger Things) so anything's possible...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 23, 2018, 06:15:15 PM
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37511267_2197707750258660_2145328489245442048_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=667a5c48c0a5721efc9b641f726dfcd3&oe=5BE85CAB)

Looks good, but aren't the shields out of place with the style of the rest of the kit? They look like ancient eastern shields of some kind.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on July 25, 2018, 08:26:51 AM
The shield design got my eye too.

Best to think they're context shields in the setting. Sort of low-tech Roman square shields. Or target shields of the squareish type. Or some eastern/Chinese style shields. But I would have preferred round shields. I think they would have been more universal, and would have increased the general appeal of the set. The Frostgrave mercenaries come with a round and a heather shield. I think that would have been a better combination for the human infantry too.

Another thing that struck me was the total lack of mail. Mail armour has been super common among all Eurasian cultures from the mid/late antiquity to the late medieval. Why wouldn't these warriors use it?

The shield type and lack of mail make me think these are rather poor militia guys. Maybe we will see a more professional looking soldiers kit later?

All of this said I do like the set. The only thing that keeps me from buying it immediately is that I have some thousands of unpainted minis already...

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 25, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
I like that they're lightly armoured. There are a lot of armoured or more "soldier" looking kits from Perry, Warlord, Gripping Beast, Fireforge, etc. I like the Frostgrave minis, but the winter garb & cultist robes didn't fit the look I wanted. I think this kit fills a gap.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: patsy02 on July 26, 2018, 02:08:34 AM
The lack of mail is fine. It's a style choice, and mail can be covered entirely by clothing. I just think the shields don't go very well with medieval european style bodies.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on August 05, 2018, 05:27:35 PM
Just realized they all have brigandine jackets, so are actually well armoured! :)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on August 06, 2018, 10:28:40 AM
Question: does anyone own the Black Tree Designs skeletons, specifically spearmen and halberdiers? If so, do the shields come separate or are the moulded as part of the figure. I want to convert them into pikemen but that won't work if they have shields.

I have e-mailed Black Tree but they are not renowned for speed of reply.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Shadespyre on August 06, 2018, 12:04:22 PM
The ones which Zero Twentythree bought last year came without shields, I'm 95% certain. Really nice miniatures, too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on August 06, 2018, 01:11:23 PM
I have just scoured zero 23's old posts and I agree it seems 95% likely.

(edit) Now I have checked 023's blog and am 100% convinced (https://www.zerotwentythree.com/2017/02/jtc-crossbow-for-now-more-undead-for.html)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 13, 2018, 11:33:27 PM
Firefore Games are preparing for a new kickstarter and are working on some ... let's say "Game of Thrones inspired" miniatures. Some of those minis are looking quite nice so far and seem to be very close to GW mini scale:

https://fireforge-games.com/content/13-forgotten-world

(https://fireforge-games.com/img/cms/pages/forgotten-world/scale.jpg)

(https://fireforge-games.com/img/cms/pages/forgotten-world/northmen-bowmen1.jpg)

(https://fireforge-games.com/img/cms/pages/forgotten-world/northmen2.jpg)

They are also working on various undead, which look decent ... for undead ... you know what I mean. Certainly a million times better than the old GW Zombies.

(http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/FFG-Fireforge-Untote-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zak on August 13, 2018, 11:54:09 PM
I love these sooo much
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on August 14, 2018, 12:05:42 AM
The undead are ... erm ... delicious??!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 14, 2018, 08:41:48 AM
The Oathmark humans from Northstar are launching today.

Compatible with the Frostgrave sets - so Soldiers, Cultists, Barbarians, Crewmen - the mind boggles at the conversion opportunities.

(http://northstarfigures.com/images/9/img12299.jpg)


(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38869712_2188011914561032_4244569939295338496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=989027691d20ae23277b5be09d2e084a&oe=5C11BAEA)

Interesting helmet ………………
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39098043_2193634357332121_7092954338326216704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1299ebf59d0e4095208d3e0d1b708f9d&oe=5C0BD9EF)




It seems we have a veritable feast of new human soldiers - now we just need a good big battle rules set .  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on August 14, 2018, 08:44:42 AM
Fireforge is really improving both the quantity and the quality. These are really nice models, a huge improvement on their historical line.

Again, I have a slight problem with the infantrymen's armour. I guess you can do quilt like that, but I hope the box has bodies with other armour types too. Like mail... :)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zak on August 14, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
The Oathmark humans from Northstar are launching today.

Compatible with the Frostgrave sets - so Soldiers, Cultists, Barbarians, Crewmen - the mind boggles at the conversion opportunities.

(http://northstarfigures.com/images/9/img12299.jpg)


(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38869712_2188011914561032_4244569939295338496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=989027691d20ae23277b5be09d2e084a&oe=5C11BAEA)

Interesting helmet ………………
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39098043_2193634357332121_7092954338326216704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1299ebf59d0e4095208d3e0d1b708f9d&oe=5C0BD9EF)




It seems we have a veritable feast of new human soldiers - now we just need a good big battle rules set .  :engel:




why does all the best nerd stuff come from England!! love these models  :dry:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 15, 2018, 08:02:07 PM
Wargames Foundry is (re-)releasing some more of the old Citadel/GW Human Fighters.

https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-models

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1505/0474/products/wa10_1024x1024.jpg?v=1533866053)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1505/0474/products/wa9_1024x1024.jpg?v=1533865547)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: orcyboy on August 16, 2018, 05:36:24 PM
Wargames Foundry is (re-)releasing some more of the old Citadel/GW Human Fighters.

https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/ex-citadel-games-workshop-models

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1505/0474/products/wa10_1024x1024.jpg?v=1533866053)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1505/0474/products/wa9_1024x1024.jpg?v=1533865547)

But it also looks like they dropped a couple sets I was just about buy as well... bummer.  :eusa_wall:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 17, 2018, 07:57:04 AM
Ask them - they have a huge number of models and don't seem able to show all of them online.

Pretty sure they would be able to find the moulds for you.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on September 05, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
https://madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_10&products_id=368

(https://madrobotminiatures.com/images/HH-93.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on September 27, 2018, 07:11:15 AM
Nice heads! They really have detail & character. :-)

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zak on October 02, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
Nice heads! They really have detail & character. :-)

-Z


Ditto  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 03, 2018, 06:17:36 PM
New plastic set coming from NorthStar - designed for Frostgrave, but mix-n-match with their other previous sets.

(https://i0.wp.com/www.wargamesillustrated.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/North-Star-Frostgrave-Soldiers-II-0.png?zoom=1.5625&resize=860%2C281&ssl=1)

(https://i2.wp.com/www.wargamesillustrated.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/North-Star-Frostgrave-Soldiers-II-7.png?zoom=1.5625&w=182&h=267&ssl=1)

Female warriors!

It also looks like there will be some accompanying metal female characters for the latest Nickstarter.

(https://i0.wp.com/www.wargamesillustrated.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Frostgrave-Female-Soldiers-Metal-4.png?zoom=1.5625&w=250&h=287&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on October 04, 2018, 08:25:06 PM
Looks like all the options of weaponry are available for all 5 bodies.
I also assume these will work with previous Frostgrave plastic figures - should lead to some wonderful conversion options
How many dudes can you make using the North Star Oathmarks, @Midaski? I know that's one sprue, but how many sprues per box?

And @Victor, are those barbute heads in resin?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on October 06, 2018, 05:54:14 AM
@Noble Korhedron, did some googling for you:

How many dudes can you make using the North Star Oathmarks, @Midaski? I know that's one sprue, but how many sprues per box?

The Humans (males) box has 30 figures, so six sprues of five figures. This is the same for all the races, so I'd guess the females will be the same. From the preview above, it seems they come five per sprue.

And @Victor, are those barbute heads in resin?

Yes, Mad Robot bits are cast in resin.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on October 07, 2018, 08:03:14 AM
Females Sprue - Pre-orders next week in a Frostgrave expansion Nickstarter

(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/43207478_10157846085947782_1794531645160685568_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&oh=ba8fe89a3ae766e7a39d1deb67557bd7&oe=5C4FD295)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on October 07, 2018, 06:40:43 PM
@Noble Korhedron, did some googling for you:

How many dudes can you make using the North Star Oathmarks, @Midaski? I know that's one sprue, but how many sprues per box?

The Humans (males) box has 30 figures, so six sprues of five figures. This is the same for all the races, so I'd guess the females will be the same. From the preview above, it seems they come five per sprue.

And @Victor, are those barbute heads in resin?

Yes, Mad Robot bits are cast in resin.

-Z
@Zygmund, you totally rock!!

Also, checkout the Warlord(?) Landsknechts with Zweihanders, and Landsknecht missile troops on page 65 of this thread; they are the most Empire-esque troops I have seen from just about any manufacturer that is not GW!!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 18, 2018, 07:57:50 PM
Steel Fist has released more Landsknechts ... including 2 sets carrying arms upright, a set of zweihanders, 2 sets of command, and 2 sets of arquebusiers ...

https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product-category/italian-wars-1494-1538-product_cat-19/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 24, 2018, 07:51:33 PM
Can someone tell me, who makes these minis here? The guy says "Gamezone miniatures", but I don't think that is right.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2clH_HlI4zo/VZURrE3dFVI/AAAAAAAABww/hgvBOAbGacU/s320/DSC02299.JPG)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tM31kMBwdPA/VZURrWkKFXI/AAAAAAAABw8/wnMQ_Z2dRI0/s320/DSC02301.JPG)

http://deadkingsrise.blogspot.com/2015/07/more-28mm-gamezone-alternative.html
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on November 24, 2018, 10:11:15 PM
Reaper Miniatures

Sir Richard the White
Lord Strongheart
Praying Paladin
Sir Justin the Green
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on November 24, 2018, 10:27:27 PM
Thank you! Reaper would have been my guess too, but finding something on their site is quite tricky!

Edit: There are more - quite decent looking knights I have to say:

(http://forum.reapermini.com/uploads/monthly_09_2016/post-13860-0-43451300-1474759383.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 24, 2018, 10:40:35 PM
Those look like some cool minis! :icon_biggrin: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Noble Korhedron on November 25, 2018, 05:13:48 PM
A bit too much of Brettonia about them for my taste, though...


Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 25, 2018, 06:26:35 PM
Definitely more Bretonian in nature.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on November 25, 2018, 09:09:07 PM
Lord Strongheart might fit Empire - if you clip his wings...

But perhaps Victor is looking for models for a Bretonnian army?  ::heretic::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 05, 2018, 06:59:33 PM
Tribal Warriors - plastic set - Ghost Archipelago

(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/47369266_2360935327268689_1814576287595888640_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=68b651eb3b82a8dcb59a5d9a97cabaa5&oe=5C6625AB)

Coming January
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on December 05, 2018, 07:02:43 PM
Have you seen these from Shieldwolf?

Female Reiksguard?  Pack 20

(https://dqzrr9k4bjpzk.cloudfront.net/images/10152787/952420189.jpg)

Sprue

(https://dqzrr9k4bjpzk.cloudfront.net/images/10152787/952428966.jpg)

and there is a bit of crossover with the bodies for a Sci-Fi set

https://badsquiddogames.com/shop?mc_cid=cb799e5390&mc_eid=526fb279ff#!/Sisters-of-Faith-20/p/125941430/category=32497086

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on December 13, 2018, 03:51:22 PM
Silly female armour. But definitely works for alternative Sisters of Battle.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on February 17, 2019, 04:01:31 AM
Frostgrave plastic wizard kit. Follow the link for examples of painted minis.

http://downloads.northstarfigures.com/newsletter/newsletter174.htm

(http://downloads.northstarfigures.com/newsletter/images/DSCN5279.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Mathi Alfblut on February 17, 2019, 10:39:51 AM
Now that looks nice!
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on February 17, 2019, 08:08:13 PM
Now that's a set for bits!

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 04, 2019, 11:45:11 AM
Claymore Castings has released some brilliant miniatures during the past year. They are historical minis, about the size of Perry Minis, but a bit bulkier. Not so much suited for the Empire, but worth a look non the less. Amongst them, probably the best archers I have seen thus far! The dynamic poses are simply great!

http://claymorecastings.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home

Images were taken from a blog: http://saxondog.blogspot.com/2019/04/claymore-castings-archers.html
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C9SGfJjJpnI/XK-ZZTwIvvI/AAAAAAAAFeQ/BsiABZg6gPA48weCJUPva2hhbBOCZ-qBACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190411_184046.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jVeDyXjawRE/XK-ZcsuAUUI/AAAAAAAAFeY/tggxBuB6fxEI22T760mgASfTdVk5PTpogCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190411_185650.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on May 04, 2019, 11:48:32 AM
I could not agree more.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on May 04, 2019, 02:22:00 PM
All CC figures I've held in my hands have been superb models.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on May 06, 2019, 01:02:39 AM
I've been following them on FB for a while. They have some of the most animated & dynamic figures I've ever seen. Super clean looking sculpts. At some point I'll make some excuse to order some. ;)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 07, 2019, 02:02:38 PM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/024/916/635/ab64118bb13c9b74cf9786ab6e93c0ec_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&crop=faces&w=1024&h=576&fit=crop&v=1556302705&auto=format&frame=1&q=92&s=6220c4da6723b9031bff7ad944e13474)

If you're looking for some Imperial chaos cultists, we've got you covered. Are just some female fighters if the stretch goals work out.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/024/918/599/8f4ec2bd9e2591c2198a57e23d091e96_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1556313732&auto=format&gif-q=50&q=92&s=218ce5200eed34ccff28f5a518f2369e)

Kickstarter is live.  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darkmaenad/the-nameless-thirteen?ref=project_build (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darkmaenad/the-nameless-thirteen?ref=project_build)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on May 08, 2019, 06:55:58 PM
Am I seeing this right, that this is your kickstarter project? I'm normally not such a fan of 3D sculpted miniatures, but these designs are looking very good! I wish you good luck with this endeavour!  :eusa_clap:

(I have been fantasising about my own small miniature range for years already - you are living the dream!   :icon_wink:)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: The Red Graf on May 08, 2019, 07:25:45 PM
Yes, it’s mine. Thanks a lot for the kind words. I think you might be impressed with the quality of the finished product. There are a few painted examples on the Kickstarter and I will be adding more.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on May 09, 2019, 12:21:33 AM
Claymore Castings has released some brilliant miniatures during the past year. They are historical minis, about the size of Perry Minis, but a bit bulkier. Not so much suited for the Empire, but worth a look non the less. Amongst them, probably the best archers I have seen thus far! The dynamic poses are simply great!

http://claymorecastings.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home

Images were taken from a blog: http://saxondog.blogspot.com/2019/04/claymore-castings-archers.html
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C9SGfJjJpnI/XK-ZZTwIvvI/AAAAAAAAFeQ/BsiABZg6gPA48weCJUPva2hhbBOCZ-qBACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190411_184046.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jVeDyXjawRE/XK-ZcsuAUUI/AAAAAAAAFeY/tggxBuB6fxEI22T760mgASfTdVk5PTpogCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190411_185650.jpg)

Excellent! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on June 03, 2019, 07:46:56 PM
http://www.grim-forge.com/product-category/30mm/okgd/mercenary/?fbclid=IwAR29dQOsjk9rQqgWli4amcEIjLq59Cj3Xh332yTQ3Qq7dX4ElVUF8zi-QkQ

(http://i2.wp.com/www.grim-forge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/BUNDLE.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: S.O.F on June 05, 2019, 03:44:27 AM
That is an impressive level of Lost Legion homage.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 20, 2019, 04:17:57 AM
I broke down an ordered a box of Oathmark humans. I consider it my reward for finishing the Old World Army Challenge. A bunch of minis painted -- time to add some back to the unpainted pile.  :engel:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jAwgNthqkFQ/XTKEZmybgJI/AAAAAAAAIAo/Fm41wODhgX8SbfEQmniU1lH2vUGNs-axgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_20190719_223953.jpg)

I've been wanting some humans to fit into various roles as bandits, Wastelander militia or rebels, or medium weight mercenaries. These seem like they'll fit the role. They are a little shorter than the old plastic Soldiers of the Empire and Empire Militia, but they are still bulky enough that I think the heads will be easily swapped between the three kits. Possibly some of the other bits as well. I think the Perry WotR plastics (which I also have) will be a little to lean to mix with the rest, though.

Pros: good mix of weapons. You can make all sword or hand weapon armed, all archers, or all spearmen -- of mix as you like. They look like they have a nice balance of detail and "quick-paintability". A good low fantasy look that is still non-historical. Cons: I wish there were more bare-headed heads.

One issue... it's going to be tough fitting them on 20mm bases. I may either multi-base them like I did with many of the middlehammer skeletons, or I may just go with 25mm bases. The latter is a convention picked up from playing WAB and other games in which lighter infantry fight in less dense formations. Depending on the rules being used, this can have a small impact on gameplay -- which may be a good thing depending on the particulars.

I'm also looking for some heavy cavalry to represent both Bretonnian "younger sons" out seeking their fortunes, or heavy mercenaries. I'm eyeing the Perry French Agincourt knights for those. (I have other plans for the Perry WotR knights.)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on July 20, 2019, 11:30:30 AM
A cheap Steam-Tank knock-off. :-D

https://www.norbaminiatures.com/es/inicio/199-tanque-de-vapor-imperial.html

(https://www.norbaminiatures.com/1288-thickbox_default/tanque-de-vapor-imperial.jpg)


There are some more miniatures: https://www.norbaminiatures.com/es/26-imperio
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 20, 2019, 12:07:01 PM
That sprue of Oathmark humans reminded me of the militia box.  Although dressed differently, they do look very variable. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 20, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
I really like that tank.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on July 20, 2019, 10:07:58 PM
I'm not a fan of the square turret.  Must be a Tilean design. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on July 20, 2019, 10:15:38 PM
The whole thing seems rather coarse, but perhaps it looks better when painted.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on July 21, 2019, 03:45:40 PM
The whole thing seems rather coarse, but perhaps it looks better when painted.

Exactly my thoughts. It's clearly a substitute. Their other, bulkier STank has some character of its own.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on July 21, 2019, 04:34:27 PM
I agree, I like the larger one because it's not a reproduction of the GW kit. And although it's not a bad model, I don't think it is as good as the original. The larger one has a look (just the basic shape) of a steam version of the A7V.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/German_tank_AL25_000122.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on July 21, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
I never owned the original, and so am not intimate with its 'lines'. My own tank is a particularly useless Tilean version, scratchbuilt. I do like the look of this one, though, which must mean I would like the original one too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2019, 02:53:46 AM
What happened to my Halfling File thread? Just updated it over the weekend and came back to add some links to some of the new/upcoming sources hit it's gone.  :-(

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/westfaliaminiatures/the-third-breakfast

http://www.warlordgames.com/warlords-of-erehwon-halfling-warband/

https://www.beastsofwar.com/news/fur-footed-halflings-wargames-atlantic/

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1662635043/haflings-gone-bad-volume-one (Ended, but I'm sure they'll be added to the figures already in their web-shop)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 05, 2019, 12:17:02 PM
I saw your thread, and can't find it either.

It caused me to go pledge on the Third Breakfast campaign.  Bad me! :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 05, 2019, 12:24:39 PM
You mean this one? http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=39720.0
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 05, 2019, 01:38:06 PM
Yep, that is the one! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::

I didn't look in the area where it is.  Wouldn't think to look there for that kind of thread.  More likely in Elector's Forum or Count's Tavern.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 05, 2019, 06:05:17 PM
It should have been in the CT  ………………. and now it is  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 05, 2019, 09:59:55 PM
It should have been in the CT  ………………. and now it is  :engel:

 :::cheers::: Thanks. Not sure why I could find it one day, but not the other.  :eusa_wall:

It caused me to go pledge on the Third Breakfast campaign.  Bad me! :icon_lol:


I'm in on that one too.  Im already reconsidering whether I planned for enough archers or whether I need to increase my pledge.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 05, 2019, 11:55:04 PM
At first I signed up for early bird raiders level.  Then I said, "what the heck, going to need more than that to make proppa units!", and then I upped my pledge to an early bird garrison level.  Might buy a few add-ons on top of that, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 06, 2019, 07:48:27 AM
I have already got loads of his stuff, so I am mainly looking at the new figures which are quite a small part of the KS. I suppose I will have to pledge something and then boost it when we see exactly what other new units get added.

I am not sure I like the concept of not being able to plan how much you will invest, or at least get some idea, from the start.

I wonder if he is motivated for a 'relaunch' due to Warlord's forthcoming Halflings for Erewhorn (or whatever it's called  :engel: )
I've looked at their £150 starter deal, but it's hard to see the detail or get a size comparison.
As this thread proves there can be quite a difference in figure size with halflings.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 06, 2019, 02:53:04 PM
I'm mostly in the KS for the new figures too. I'm still waiting on an order of the old figures from earlier this year, which should round out all of the regiments I've already started.

I wonder if he is motivated for a 'relaunch' due to Warlord's forthcoming Halflings for Erewhorn (or whatever it's called  :engel: )
I've looked at their £150 starter deal, but it's hard to see the detail or get a size comparison.
As this thread proves there can be quite a difference in figure size with halflings.

Given that some of the reward levels reference playing in "Nowhere" that's a possibility.  :icon_lol: (reverse the word  :wink: )

I should take a new halfling comparison photo when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 06, 2019, 04:00:35 PM
I got to dig out the halfmen I got after the first breakfast.  Never made it to the second breakfast.  I was already too full.

The third breakfast seems to be better timing.  I'm after halfknechts mostly, and a few cavalry I missed, plus a couple of artillery pieces.

Not sure how the newer figures with the pledge levels triggering their production, but I may need to add those on afterwards.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 06, 2019, 04:44:20 PM
Seems like there are more halflings being released than proper human fantasy miniatures.  :closed-eyes:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 06, 2019, 05:31:32 PM
 :icon_lol: :icon_exclaim:

And GW is discontinuing some of their best ones. :icon_rolleyes: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 06, 2019, 06:23:11 PM
So, is the glass now halfling full or empty?
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on August 07, 2019, 10:49:14 AM
The third breakfast seems to be better timing.  I'm after halfknechts mostly, and a few cavalry I missed, plus a couple of artillery pieces.

Not sure how the newer figures with the pledge levels triggering their production, but I may need to add those on afterwards.  Maybe.

Messaged Kawe yesterday - Page is a bit out of date - the Stretch goals are unlocked up to the Halfman Hoplite.

Some of the new figs should be pictured soon. (The bowmen pic is existing figures actually) and the War Wagon and old Cannons sound like they are going to also be available.

I suspect I will pledge basic level and then add value for the new stuff at Pledge Manager time.
Some of the new units at C$5 are  very cheap - KS Bargain time  :biggriin:


 
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 07, 2019, 11:03:20 AM
So, is the glass now halfling full or empty?

Fidelis of Sigmaringen, Master of Puns h.c.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 07, 2019, 11:30:37 AM
The pun is mightier than the sword.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 07, 2019, 11:54:05 AM
The third breakfast seems to be better timing.  I'm after halfknechts mostly, and a few cavalry I missed, plus a couple of artillery pieces.

Not sure how the newer figures with the pledge levels triggering their production, but I may need to add those on afterwards.  Maybe.
Messaged Kawe yesterday - Page is a bit out of date - the Stretch goals are unlocked up to the Halfman Hoplite.

Some of the new figs should be pictured soon. (The bowmen pic is existing figures actually) and the War Wagon and old Cannons sound like they are going to also be available.

I suspect I will pledge basic level and then add value for the new stuff at Pledge Manager time.
Some of the new units at C$5 are  very cheap - KS Bargain time  :biggriin:
Yes, I might get the war wagon too.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: lt dougheim on August 08, 2019, 12:16:42 AM
I got one of the early bird army pledges. Im also waiting for my shipment of undead halflings from ttcombat. Ttcombat is having another kickstarter launch this Friday. Its going to focus on elves and tomb kings, plus more halflings. Depending on what goes on there I may have to up my pledge for westphalia.  Also there are a ton of pictures for the ttcombat halflings on their kickstarter called halflings and friends.  One of the pictures show a scale next to a halfling. The model was 19mm tall. Ttcombat made the halflings that are going to be part of the warlords launch.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 08, 2019, 05:00:05 AM
Seems like there are more halflings being released than proper human fantasy miniatures.  :closed-eyes:

Oathmark, Frostgrave, Fireforge... And there's plenty of historical figures that work well too. Warlord's landsknechts, Perry WoTR & HYW for plastics. A few older manufacturers if your're into metal, and a few newer & smaller manufacturers if you don't mind resin.

:icon_lol: :icon_exclaim:

And GW is discontinuing some of their best ones. :icon_rolleyes: :icon_lol:

Not sure why the militia set was ever cancelled. Didn't sell as many of those as they sold of he giant chickens or Empire magic-wagons I guess?


So, is the glass now halfling full or empty?

 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on August 08, 2019, 05:09:41 AM

GW seems to be phasing themselves out of largescale production and mainstream/generic fantasy and instead positioning themselves as a smaller manufacturer of niche fantasy figures. Like they're shedding their mass market success to downsize & follow in the footsteps of Privateer Press or Wyrd Games. Mantic, Warlord, Northstar (Oathmark & Frostgrave), Fireforge, etc. provide the large scale mainstream fantasy figures now.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on August 08, 2019, 11:02:26 AM
I'm planning to snap up whatever boxes of the older Empire figures I can find.  Might pick up some of the others too.  Before none of it is being sold.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 08, 2019, 11:14:37 AM
Seems like there are more halflings being released than proper human fantasy miniatures.  :closed-eyes:

Oathmark, Frostgrave, Fireforge... And there's plenty of historical figures that work well too. Warlord's landsknechts, Perry WoTR & HYW for plastics. A few older manufacturers if your're into metal, and a few newer & smaller manufacturers if you don't mind resin.


I'm extremely picky and none of those work, either because of their scale and/or the design. But it's not like I don't own enough miniatures already, which I will probably never get painted up in my life time.  :roll:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on August 08, 2019, 11:49:57 AM
To paraphrase Caesar: Victor, pictor, picky...
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on November 18, 2019, 06:19:27 PM
New Goblin Wolf Riders for Oathmark - plastic.  due Jan 2020

(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70980450_3089626334400126_5481066542500151296_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQkhonuNpIJ0w7ffvAKq5zWJB7uTXsft-0N_B71zPYMXZeQPpecsrfJiKA8WCX0zIqk&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=763386bff06a5fd0d683a36c49336cff&oe=5E5651E5)

(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77420029_3089627264400033_2105362341087412224_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQnWyU0wkWYY3c6DSG6VIYrU-94bFEK-5nzk5gQkp37JfdIWW0HYTQGVVZTmpmKrtBE&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=eace0cb4bd61a131ef7c061d6ab16a82&oe=5E473F76)

(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/71683037_3089628311066595_8016535343924772864_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_oc=AQn1IMGK-oZBoFINqEAfl5UWPL7kV3unZ8_1jj33e2wVwlFYDFbtPBB_rfDaOpi93k0&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=340f105cfcf0eb221735ef96da2b4bf3&oe=5E56B78E)

(https://scontent.flhr3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/74692432_3089632711066155_6728837984612777984_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQmES4e_d04RYtMXqe6S_DEHwrqHrduIMnpKxjpqAzBDo06JydaZJ4WtmsyqNCkWx8s&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-2.fna&oh=a6bf8a3521f43034a293154e6cd0c495&oe=5E4D2058)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on November 18, 2019, 07:12:36 PM
Not sure if I like the faces or not from those views.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Zygmund on November 19, 2019, 05:36:47 AM
They're cool looking models for sure! Tempting.

Not sure if I like the faces or not from those views.

I can see what you mean. I might want to sculpt real pointy noses for them. Yet I also like the snouty ones, less the piggy ones. The sprue seems to have more heads I find passable.

-Z
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on December 21, 2019, 04:40:15 PM
https://fireforge-games.com/northern-kingdom/370-folk-rabble.html

Fireforge folk rabble up for preorder, available Feb 2020. I didn't get in on the Kickstarter, but this was the kit I really wanted.

I think it will fill a big gap in the market. I've got misc. metal civilian figures (and a couple of cheap PVC) from a variety of manufacturers, but a multi-part plastic kit will be a good way to build a mob of civilians/levy with a lot of variety on a tighter budget. I assume this wil be great for conversion opportunities.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Fidelis von Sigmaringen on April 02, 2020, 04:30:24 PM
No fitting models for the Empire, but most other races:  https://lubart-miniatures.com/
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 17, 2020, 09:50:21 AM
New Oathmark plastic Elves Light Infantry sprues.

(http://downloads.northstarfigures.com/newsletter/images/DSCN8300a_small.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on April 17, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
Really disappointed they didn't include spears. I'm fed up of having to kitbash everything.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on April 17, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
These look like "light" wood elves, using swords and bows when staying in the woods, where such is more agile than carrying a spear. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Midaski on April 17, 2020, 04:39:21 PM
Really disappointed they didn't include spears. I'm fed up of having to kitbash everything.

Yeah - the spears are on the previous box already released.
They do mix and match well though.

I've been making up some of the Oathmark goblins - 5 bodies per sprue, and you get 5 of each weapon choice - spear, hand weapon or bow - as well,  so you have two sets of weapons left over.
What I find interesting is that the hands on the weapon arms could easily be human - so even more kitbashing possibilities with the Oathmark Humans and even the Elves.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on April 18, 2020, 12:05:10 AM
Black Scorpion Miniatures: https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/index.php  :ph34r:

(https://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com/images/usm1/Toad7web.jpg)

Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on August 31, 2020, 09:44:05 PM
Gripping Beast:

https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/SOM01_Grand_Commander_of_The_Order_Militant--product--6072.html

(https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/thumbnail/500x500/userfiles/images/sys/products/SOM01_Grand_Commander_of_The_Order_Militant_26875_0.jpg)

https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/SOM04_Order_Militant_Fanatics--product--6075.html

(https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/userfiles/images/sys/products/Order_Militant_Fanatics_43544_0.jpg)


Grim Forge:


https://www.grim-forge.com/categoria-prodotto/28mm/accessori/

(https://www.grim-forge.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/MG_7017.jpg)









Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 01, 2020, 01:53:02 PM
Some nice finds there, thanks for posting! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: ZeroTwentythree on September 03, 2020, 01:04:08 AM
Really disappointed they didn't include spears pikes. I'm fed up of having to kitbash pikes onto everything.

Fixed.  :engel:
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 03, 2020, 01:26:33 AM
 :icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Padre on September 03, 2020, 11:05:36 PM
Hey! I was still hurting from kitbashing 30 halfling pike. I had to get it out of my system. And at the same time I couldn't even type the word 'pike'. Too much pain.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on September 04, 2020, 01:01:31 AM
 :icon_lol: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Victor on June 08, 2021, 05:23:04 PM
Found this on ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324660951612?hash=item4b974cfa3c:g:tssAAOSwx6Jgut2y

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~pIAAOSwN4Bgv6bJ/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: Silver Wolf on December 21, 2021, 02:05:44 PM
Hello everyone.

I made some weapon conversion bits that folks using Warlord games landsknecht models might find useful.
They're spear and halberd heads and they're already scaled to fit on top of the poles.

(https://i.ibb.co/stWDhSV/1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/stWDhSV) (https://i.ibb.co/dKsLKhF/2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dKsLKhF)

Here's the link:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5170597

I also offer printing services for a small fee in case you want them but your don't have access to a resin printer.
Title: Re: Other Manufacturers
Post by: GamesPoet on December 21, 2021, 02:32:27 PM
Those look good!  And thanks for the offer! :icon_cool: :::cheers:::