Topic: Other Manufacturers

[ZeroTwentythree]

I think when I order a box (or boxes?) I will pick up the pack of metal figures with the shoe seller - as a sign of where GW's state troops went wrong, and where these went right. 

[GamesPoet]

Forgetting the plastics for a minute,  MAX, GOTZ and GEORGE and  some new officers .
Things don't get better than this.

Those do look good!

[Naitsabes]

a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!

my offer still stands! The first picture of happy people with their merchandise have come up in my facebook. No scale shots yet though

[The Red Graf]

a big internet cookie for whoever posts them next to GW state troops first!

my offer still stands! The first picture of happy people with their merchandise have come up in my facebook. No scale shots yet though

I think Michael Anderson or Pro Gloria posted some back when they were first sculpted. Let me check.

Never mind, they were three ups weren't they. The mind plays tricks.

[Victor]

So .. it's been two weeks. Still no comparison pictures anywhere?

[Victor]

I found this quick review:

http://xulutec.blogspot.co.at/2017/07/warlord-landsknecht-box-short-review.html


Sadly, they are just as small as the old Pro Gloria metal miniatures. But it would still be great, if someone could post pictures of how well these plastic bits mix with GW miniatures.

[Naitsabes]

Thanks, Victor.

To me it looks okay'ish next to the plastic greatswords.

what's up with the tugging their belts in so much on these models? is that historical?  Looks even more painful than a corset.

[ZeroTwentythree]

More pics here:

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=56950.msg1273469#msg1273469

From what I can tell, I'll be OK with the size/scale. They will most directly be alongside older GW plastic & lead & Foundry lead. I think the onky ones that might look odd are the old spearmen from the WFB boxed game and some of the old lead - both of which already look large compared to the rest.

A little more bothered by some of the posing & detail critiques, but I'll still pick up a box to see for myself. (Though I've made myself a deal/goal - I have to paint the Fondry lead before buying more landsknechts, plastic or otherwise.)

[patsy02]

Second picture: Perry Hundred Year War body with GW head and arms to the left.

They're a bit weedy. If GW is 28mm, these guys are 25mm with heads that are slightly too large.

Anyway, I'm not really complaining, they look good.

[Sir Bone]

I have to say I am disappointed. These guys are way too small to fit into a pike/halberd box together with those of GW...

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

what's up with the tugging their belts in so much on these models? is that historical?  Looks even more painful than a corset.

That is indeed historical. Even the armour was waisted.

[Mathi Alfblut]

I have tried one replica of those armour plates. It is like a bloody corset, but it sure did not fit me well...

[patsy02]

I have to say I am disappointed. These guys are way too small to fit into a pike/halberd box together with those of GW...

They might fit with the 6th edition plastic soldiers, but not with militia or 7th ed infantry plastics.

[patsy02]

A little more criticism: Some the heads, the helmeted ones, look wonky when attached. The neck collar is so tall that they all end up looking downwards, as you can tell. This is fine for one or two guys, but it looks odd for all the helmeted heads. This is easily fixed by cutting off the top bit of the collar.

[Naitsabes]

They might fit with the 6th edition plastic soldiers, but not with militia or 7th ed infantry plastics.

how about a couple pictures of just that?

(and I am relieved to see that not all of them have corsets as bad as that first guy)

[patsy02]

See above. It's the arquebusier next to assorted 6th and 5th edition empire/mordheim models.

[Fidelis von Sigmaringen]

I have tried one replica of those armour plates. It is like a bloody corset, but it sure did not fit me well...

Still an opportunity not waisted, I guess

[Naitsabes]

See above. It's the arquebusier next to assorted 6th and 5th edition empire/mordheim models.

sweet. didn't realize the shooters had the same bodies. thanks.

[orcyboy]

This is bumbing me out. They almost seem as small as the way old Ral Partha line of landsknechts.

[patsy02]

Finished a few of them:



Right click and view image for more details.

I can really feel the impact of the slightly smaller scale when I'm painting eyes. Much less pronounced than GW.

[ZeroTwentythree]

They look great painted up! Thanks for the pic & painting!

The pose complaints I read about don't bothet me. The shoulders on some of the figures, mayb a little odd. Obviously scaling with other figures may be another thing altogether. But I think a full unit of those guys on their own would look pretty good!

[Victor]

Is there any chance that you can use these plastic heads (and arms?) on GW Empire plastic infantry miniatures? Would it look acceptable?

[Victor]

Talking about heads - has anyone tried using these heads from Milriton on GW Empire miniatures yet?

http://www.mirliton.it/index.php?cName=heads-medievalrenaissance





I guess they will be a bit too small - they could fit those Warlord Landsknecht miniatures though.(?)

[Sir Bone]

Is there any chance that you can use these plastic heads (and arms?) on GW Empire plastic infantry miniatures? Would it look acceptable?

Second this question.

patsy02, could you also make more photos of those guys together with GW's state troops of 6 and 7 edition?

[patsy02]

Two different Pro Gloria heads on 7th ed soldier body, and a 6th ed. soldier body.



Same Pro Gloria heads.
Left: 6th edition warmachine crew legs, 7th edition goldsword torso.
Right: 7th edition general legs with 6th edition starter set captain's torso.






Body: Pro Gloria. Arm: 7th edition goldsword.

1st picture: Head from 6th edition soldier kit
2nd picture: Head from 7th edition archer kit
3rd picture: Head from 6th edition militia kit
4th picture: Another head from 7th edition archer kit

Verdict:
Big beards, big hats, and big helmets make the head look larger than it actually is, regardless of manufacturer.

6th or 7th edition soldier body + bearded and helmeted Pro Gloria heads: go for it.
Pro Gloria body with certain beardless, hatless, smaller-looking GW heads: go for it, with precaution. (meaning some 6th ed. soldier heads and some 7th edition archer heads)

Other combinations: Avoid.