Author Topic: Battalion Box and new Chaos Terrain (Read 32070 times)

Warlord · « **on:** May 11, 2009, 01:08:40 PM »

Here is a picture of the Battalion we have been hearing about:

And a picture of some new Chaos Terrain:

Nicholas Bies · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2009, 01:16:54 PM »

It's not a terrible box set to be fair but the loss of a Cannon saddens me.

At least you get a decent sized infantry block and really getting 2 of these is a very solid core for your army.

2x20 infantry
2x10 hand/cross
16 knights (so say 3x5 and use 1 as a general until you get a better model)
20 greatswords.

You could even make 1 unit of 25 infantry, 1 unit of GS and two detachments from the 15 spare infantry models.

I'm actually satisfied with this box set (apart from the loss of a cannon) no idea if the price will be worth it however.

Mogsam · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2009, 01:45:52 PM »

If it's £55 then it isn't bad. If it's anymore than that then the battallions will be ruuubsihly priced when they all go up.

Mogsam

Count Ratzinger · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2009, 05:00:49 PM »

Quote from: bies21 on May 11, 2009, 01:16:54 PM

2x20 infantry
2x10 hand/cross
16 knights (so say 3x5 and use 1 as a general until you get a better model)
20 greatswords.

Are you sure about that? The box appears to indicate but 10 Greatswords...

GamesPoet · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2009, 05:03:47 PM »

He was talking about what happens if a person buys two.

Count Ratzinger · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2009, 05:10:04 PM »

Alas, my poor eyes and fast fingers betrayed me, apologies! Indeed, it would make quite a solid core!

Merrick · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2009, 05:38:16 PM »

Hey, look! Yet more skulls!

Badwolf · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2009, 10:10:23 PM »

Quote from: Mogsam on May 11, 2009, 01:45:52 PM

If it's £55 then it isn't bad. If it's anymore than that then the battallions will be ruuubsihly priced when they all go up.

Mogsam

Looks like £60 is the pre-order (UK) price tag.

Mathi Alfblut · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2009, 10:14:54 PM »

Too pricey then. Well, then again I got plenty of minis to work with at the moment.

Aldaris · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2009, 10:16:22 PM »

Not as good a deal as it used to be, but still not too bad for about 50 minis.

patsy02 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2009, 11:00:30 PM »

Terrain is balls, batallion is good enough.

The soldiers still suck ass though.

Caralon · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2009, 12:37:09 AM »

Not that impressed.

The only things I'd like out of there are the Greatswords - throw some pistoliers in there and I'm sold, though.

Folken · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2009, 02:11:56 AM »

So rather then a "battalion" you would want a collection of our special choices?

Warlord · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2009, 02:15:03 AM »

Personally, here is how I would configure the new Battalion Box:

- 15 Greatswords w full command (use extra armoured bodies from the State Troop box, as well as both sets of champion greatsword arms).
- 20 Swordsmen w full command (use extra bodies from missile State troop box - those without posed arm)
- 5 Crossbowmen / Handgunners
- 5 Nilla Knights
- 1 Knight Musician
- 1 Captain on Barded Warhorse (certainly should have enough bits)
- 1 BSB on Barded Warhorse (again should have enogh bits)

In essense that is a 600+ point army in the box.

Add an extra box of state troops, a box of flagellants, a box of pistoliers and a war machine box (or two) and you are well on your way.

t12161991 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 12, 2009, 02:21:52 AM »

Sounds about right. I think the DE Batallion is about that much, and the WE one is 648 without any upgrades (champs, musos, etc.).

Merrick · « **Reply #15 on:** May 12, 2009, 06:08:24 AM »

I'll probably buy one off Wayland Games some time in the future.
No way am I paying full price for the individual boxes when the prices go up....

Shadowlord · « **Reply #16 on:** May 12, 2009, 06:26:22 AM »

Will get the terrain (but paint it better) but not the Battalion as it contain knights.

Lost Commander · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:28:18 AM »

Quote from: Shadowlord on May 12, 2009, 06:26:22 AM

Will get the terrain (but paint it better) but not the Battalion as it contain knights.

Well Shadowlord, does this mean that you are again considering supporting GW and start buying their products again

Shadowlord · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:02:27 AM »

Quote from: Lost Commander on May 12, 2009, 07:28:18 AM

Well Shadowlord, does this mean that you are again considering supporting GW and start buying their products again

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Um, well that's not exactly what I wrote before.

I ain't paying £25 for no Goldswords, but this terrain piece is quite decent in price.

jullevi · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2009, 09:11:06 AM »

Quote from: Warlord on May 12, 2009, 02:15:03 AM

Personally, here is how I would configure the new Battalion Box:

- 15 Greatswords w full command (use extra armoured bodies from the State Troop box, as well as both sets of champion greatsword arms).

You wouldn't even have to use state troop champion arms - the Greatsword sprue comes with about a dozen greatswords for every 5 dudes.

I would say it's a piss-poor battallion for both new and existing players. New players are getting unplayable amount of Goldswords. The options of enlarging the GS unit are neither tempting nor affordable. If they end up buying another battallion, they are still at least two cannons and unit of pistoliers short from playable army, and have too many knights.

Veterans might consider buying this if it had, well, anything but knights. To be honest, given the hype it's very surprising that the battallion does not have any Huntsmen in it. Veterans might be interested in battallion if it offered a chance to get both new plastic regiments (plus some extra state troops) for a reasonable price. Now they get neither.

The battallion does offers good savings if you accept the new, improved prices. I have heard rumours that some people don't.

Temple of Skulls is nice. It fits perfectly with 7th edition Empire imaginery.

vesrian · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2009, 09:31:18 AM »

Anyone know what the US price is going to be? It's not listed on the GW site.

If the US price is in line with the UK one, it seems like a reasonable deal assuming you want the contents. And it may be the only way to get greatswords at a decent price. Unfortunately the pressence of the knights is a deal breaker for me at almost any price. I get why they put them in, but i can't justify buying more knights that i never liked anyway.

Shadowlord · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2009, 09:34:46 AM »

Quote from: jullevi on May 12, 2009, 09:11:06 AM

You wouldn't even have to use state troop champion arms - the Greatsword sprue comes with about a dozen greatswords for every 5 dudes.

Really?

I was under the impression that it was one torso - one set of arms.

I intended to buy these for the arms alone from the beginning so if what you are typing is true, then they won't be as bad as I thought.

I'm so gonna scour Warseer for pics of the sprues.

Midaski · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2009, 10:15:42 AM »

Maybe they are trying to get rid of excess stock of knights ..........

I have noticed that the UK ebay price has dropped - I got a box for £12.00 last week.

Not necessarily to make knights though - you see I use the armoured torsos and left arms to kitbash Greatswords .................

t12161991 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 12, 2009, 11:46:39 AM »

Which reminds me that I have about 4 knight sprues left over. I've been meaning to use them...

Inarticulate · « **Reply #24 on:** May 12, 2009, 11:56:16 AM »

I.. like the Knights...

Tbh this isn't a bad buy. If it wasn't for those dire state troops models i'd buy it.

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Author Topic: Battalion Box and new Chaos Terrain (Read 32070 times)