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Title: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on January 02, 2010, 10:09:45 AM
Hi Folks,

I'm still relatively new to Warhammer and Warhammer-Empire. I was very glad to find this community where many talented modelers, painters, and strategists share their work. I would like to thank everyone that posts pictures of their projects, it is great fun and an inspiration to see what people are working on.

Here is my current project:
I am working on a Wissenland themed army on crusade in Araby. Ive got some spearmen and a couple of knights done for now, I'll keep the blog updated as often as I can,

Comments and advice are always welcome!

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05891.jpg)

The black and white standard and black/ white shields were inspired by some of Gabrionus's knights, which in my opinion are brilliant: (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=28199.0)
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05887.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05897.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05889.jpg)

The following knights are inspired by Otaku's excellent knights of the white wolf: (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31318.0)
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05893.jpg)

It would be very helpful to me if someone could offer advice about how to paint a more crisp Maltese Cross on this knights shoulder pad:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05894.jpg)

WIP Standard bearer
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05885.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: White Knight on January 02, 2010, 11:09:38 AM
It would be very helpful to me if someone could offer advice about how to paint a more crisp Maltese Cross on this knights shoulder pad:

Get one of those finetipped micron pens and outline the cross with black, it will pop more and look crisper. :-)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Aldaris on January 02, 2010, 01:01:15 PM
Looking pretty good so far, I like the unit of knights. I'd try to get some variation into the bases though, you might want to try some off-colored rocks or a few patches of grass to make them more interesting. It would also help to brush the sand a bit with a lighter color to give it more texture. For that you might want to start with a darker base color though.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Zak on January 02, 2010, 05:02:26 PM
Hey man welcome first of all....Second the army is looking good keep posting as you finish models ..this sight is great source if inspiration to me and it will help you as well..... :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Obi on January 02, 2010, 11:04:55 PM
It would be very helpful to me if someone could offer advice about how to paint a more crisp Maltese Cross on this knights shoulder pad:

Get one of those finetipped micron pens and outline the cross with black, it will pop more and look crisper. :-)
I was going to suggest painting over the 40k decals, but your freehand is excellent. So I'd go with above suggestion!

Great stuff, I like your use of the bretonnina knights, but also your version of the red and white armour. I'd break up the handgunner's grey though- maybe make his torso black or something. Right now he's very grey.

Keep posting!

Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on February 15, 2010, 03:47:44 AM
Here is the latest update, still very WIP, I wish I had more time to paint

I imagine that crusading armies would cary a great deal of flags, standards, banners, etc. I am building a unit of 5 knights who will all be carrying flags to represent this idea. Ironically I plan on fielding the unit without a standard bearer:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05910.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05908.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05903.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05906.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05912.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05914.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05918.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05920.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05911.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05922.jpg)

The top left (red-yellow-white knight shield) shield is inspired by Patsy02's excellent shields from the spearmen unit posted on WE, (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31791.msg467105#msg467105)
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05915.jpg)


Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Obi on February 15, 2010, 11:35:12 AM
Nice banners! The barding on the horses is absolutely stunning.

You could try to thin your paints a bit though for banner application- right now it seems a bit thick.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: GamesPoet on February 15, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
Some good creative stuff here.  Particularly like the barding with the yellow having red and white on the edges.

 :icon_cool: :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on February 15, 2010, 07:00:21 PM
Nice banners! The barding on the horses is absolutely stunning.

You could try to thin your paints a bit though for banner application- right now it seems a bit thick.


Yes thank you for that advice Obi, I think I will try thinning my paints down from now on. I have feared doing it, thinking it would take far longer to paint, but it will be worth a cleaner and thinner look. The strange thing is, the pictures make paint look so much thicker and more messy. On the models it doesn't look too problematic, but maybe that's because I'm looking from so far away.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Soulcaresser on March 04, 2010, 08:08:24 PM
I like the idea from you. Just as Obi said always thin down the paints! :eusa_clap:
As fore the different types of banners really nice perhaps have a look at some nice movies to do some inspiration. :smile2:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on March 05, 2010, 11:13:14 PM
A long overdue unit of five knights, I am working on the grandmaster, and there are 4 more undercoated ones that I probably wont get to until late spring:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05958.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05957.jpg)

Their shoulder shields have been simplified, I'm thinking about just adding a black Greek cross to all of them, simple and clean.
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC05960.jpg)

and, the banner knights which i have posted in, show us ...your banners:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/yes2.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/yes1.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: King on March 06, 2010, 09:00:36 AM
Cool knights especially the Maltese ones  :::cheers:::  I have to do something like that some time but I am waiting for some new Empire knight kits to come out first.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Valetus on March 06, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
the banner unit may be OTT
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on March 25, 2010, 08:41:51 PM
My first attempts at a wissenland banner, I'm happy with the result. I'm still learning how to thin down paints, I suspect I have more to learn... :happy:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05964.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05965.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05968.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05970.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05971.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05972.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05983.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Henerius on March 25, 2010, 08:49:48 PM
 :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:


thanks for sharing the WIP pictures as well  :happy:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Valetus on March 25, 2010, 09:24:02 PM
That new banner is looking quite good. Just on a second look though I would advise adding some dusty effects to the bottom of the barding on your first knights.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: GamesPoet on March 26, 2010, 01:08:42 AM
I like the banner, and it was neat to see how you did it.  Thank you! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: WallyTWest on March 26, 2010, 03:44:02 AM
There is somthing fantastic about this army concept. I will follow this. Good job, I love the knights.  :-)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: El Cody on March 26, 2010, 11:12:03 PM
Really good job on the banners! Your free hand looks amazing. The variety in the banners adds a good deal of character to the units
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Siberius on March 27, 2010, 12:16:45 AM
I didn't see the first unit of knights before. Really like the way you did them. They are not too fussy but look really mean and also... vibrant in a good way.

Your banner painting is impressive.  8-)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on March 27, 2010, 01:09:20 AM
Thank you everyone for the supportive comments. The knights have changed just a little bit, with black crosses now instead of red. As for banners, I had a lot of fun painting that one, I'm now planning how to include more and more in my army. I'm particularly fond of this idea: Have a Nuln Gunnery School Banner set up behind the cannons, maybe as a turn counter, but mostly as an excuse to paint a cool banner that otherwise might not make it into this army. 
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: GamesPoet on March 27, 2010, 01:57:45 AM
I like the idea of making a banner for a turn counter.  Keep in mind, with any luck the new WFB edition might include the use of objectives, and I suspect banners could work quite nicely for this, too. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: wissenlander on March 27, 2010, 01:18:24 PM
Awesome banner!  Quite good for freehand work.  Are you going to use the griffon in the crown on the other side?
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Your Mother on March 27, 2010, 05:47:20 PM
Good work. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on March 28, 2010, 02:33:19 AM
Thank you!

@ wissenlander, Yeah I am planning on the red griffon in the crown for the back. Although, the front side was very do-able because the checkers provided a nice frame of reference, for where all the bends in the lion should go. The yellow back doesn't have that sort of reference, so I am wondering if the griffon will look as good as the lion.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: wissenlander on March 28, 2010, 02:13:21 PM
I'd like to be able to help in that regard, but I have no pointers outside of trying to draw it on first with something instead of painting.  How that would occur, I have no idea.  But presumably you'd have better control drawing then painting I'd imagine?  Perhaps someone else can give you some advice on freehand banners? 
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: White Knight on March 28, 2010, 02:22:23 PM
I tend to draw with a pencil on the undercoat (white or light grey undercoat), block in the colours and then go over the drawing lines in black (if required).
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on April 05, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
The latest update:

A new flag. You will notice it is the same castle motif as in the corner of the old Wissenland flag above. I am planning on writting "Antiocha (or Antiochia) Invicta" in the scrolls. I have decided on some good crusading fluff: My army are Wissenlanders who settled in Upper Araby, on the very coast. Their city is Antiocha (or Antiochia, haven't decided yet,) and they call their province 'Imperial Upper Araby'.

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05991.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05992.jpg)

Hand-gunners painted for last months goal. I realized that I hate painting the same scheme over and over again, so I followed in the footsteps of Zerotwentythree (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=20815.75) and Wulf, (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139535&page=6) and made each one of the gunners a bit different. I did however maintain a pretty narrow palate.

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05993.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05994.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05995.jpg)

A WIP knight horse:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05996.jpg)

Finally, some magic, both still WIP:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC05997.jpg)



Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on April 05, 2010, 06:21:37 PM
These are just some flag concepts I have been playing with in paint, they would probably work well for Averland as well. Currently I am not planning on putting any of these on the reverses of my to WIP flags, but in the future maybe.:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/flagconceptsunited.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: GamesPoet on April 07, 2010, 01:46:07 AM
I'm beginning to like how you are developing the fluff, and it is gutsy to share the beginnings of such things as you develop them.  Can't say I do the same.

On the three flag concepts ... I like the bottom right one the most because it includes the keep on the blue field, except it might need something else on the yellow field.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on June 22, 2010, 06:24:27 PM
The army as it stand now:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06462.jpg)

The new formation for my handgunners, since we can now shoot in two rows. Thank you edition 8.
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06457.jpg)

My Captasus, inspired by Markw's excellent captain from his Averland army. (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31224.0)
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06464.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06461.jpg)

And a larger picture of the front. The flag is a slightly modified version of the Wissenland banners from the Uniforms & Heraldry of the Empire book,
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06458.jpg)


Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on June 22, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
Finally, two close ups of the flag. On the reverse it says "Antiochia Invicta" = "Antioch Unconquered" So for my lore, I have decided that these Wissenlanders have settled in a city in Araby called Antioch. I have read, on a recent thread about Imperial colonies, that there happens to be a Bretonnian colony called Antoch. I haven't decided whether my Wissenlanders are peacefully co-existing with their Breton neighbors in Antoch, (disagreeing perhaps only on spelling,) or whether this is a different Antioch all together. If anyone is familiar with the naming of cities 'Antioch,' the second alternative is viable. As 'Antioch' was a name given to several cities. It derives from the Seleucid emperors (as there were several with the same name) 'Antiochus.'

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06468.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06466.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Zak on June 22, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
wow looks good man!! :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on June 22, 2010, 08:31:11 PM
Thanks zak.

Also, I've been thinking, with the new allied contingents rule, it might make sense to include some bretonnians yeah?
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Wendersnaven on June 22, 2010, 08:53:43 PM
Just dropping a post so I can watch the good stuff in the future.  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Le Pistolet on June 22, 2010, 08:58:57 PM
Just dropping a post so I can watch the good stuff in the future.  :eusa_clap:

Same, always good to support my fellow Wissenlanders, someone's gotta protect the home front while you're off on crusade.

Keep up the good work for the Empire's best province and expand our influence worldwide.  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Obi on June 23, 2010, 09:02:03 AM
What a beautiful freehand.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Burgermeiser on June 23, 2010, 02:36:34 PM
Holy crap I wish I could paint like that! :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on September 23, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
Here is an update with the halberdier horde I am working on:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC06969.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC07985.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC07993.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC07990.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC07994.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/DSC07995.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: von Bildhofen on September 23, 2010, 07:35:28 PM
Looks good. Shouldn't ypur ogres be wielding massive halberds? :)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on September 23, 2010, 07:45:58 PM
Haha, yes, great point von Bildhofen. I thought about that after their pants were painted, so I decided against it for the time being.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on September 25, 2010, 09:08:25 PM
I decided after all to equip the ogres with halberds. So here is the first finished one. The shield idea I got from a photo in the 8th edition rulebook, page 285 or 6 I think:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/ogre1.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08014.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08013.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08012.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: ScionsofCadaith on September 26, 2010, 01:05:08 AM
As a fellow Wissenlander, I just love your post! I especially love your ogre...I did the same type of conversion to flesh out my second rank of ironguts in my OK allied army. Also planning on using Brets!
Keep the good stuff coming :icon_biggrin:!!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on October 27, 2010, 09:55:15 PM
Here are some things I have been working on. I have really started liking the red and yellow combination that I had on my old Wissenland flag. Hence, I have decided to carry the theme throughout the army. In terms of fluff, I am thinking that since these Wissenlanders are living in Araby, they left Wissenland long ago, and they are carrying an old Wissenland flag. (http://warhammer-empire.com/library/aisforaltdorf/the-grand-county-of-wissenland/) (Since the newer flag is red with a white lion.) This is how I am justifying using reds and yellows in Wissenland army.

Pistolier horses:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08974.jpg)

Great weapon knights, now 9 strong, jsut missing their champion:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08982.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08981.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08980.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08979.jpg)

Champion's horse for the white Reiksguard knights:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08983.jpg)

First 5 swordsmen  from the detachment to the halberdier horde. I have decided to carry the checkerboard theme that is on the halberdier flag, but to translate it into white/ red for the detachment:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08985.jpg)

WIP life wizard, who is going to be standing on a giant mushroom:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08987.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08988.jpg)

My first horde:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08990.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08991.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08995.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC08997.jpg)

The ogres from the horde, both acting as unit fillers, and to standardize the color scheme:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09000.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09003.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: red bull on October 28, 2010, 11:08:10 AM
Thiss is a beautiful thread. Infact, I think I'm going to go get some knights.

Where did you get the ehads for the red knights with greatswords?
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Kirgan on October 28, 2010, 12:54:51 PM
Like it very much  :happy:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Zak on October 28, 2010, 02:24:33 PM
very cool  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Generalisimo on October 28, 2010, 06:43:39 PM
Great work !!! keep going.
The dude with the like-Greek flag is my favourite,  him and the last knight unit.

Also a kinda silly question : What does WIP means. I see it all the time and don t get it  :unsure:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: White Knight on October 28, 2010, 07:35:36 PM
"work in progress"
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on October 28, 2010, 08:41:40 PM
Thanks very much for the kind comments everyone!


Where did you get the ehads for the red knights with greatswords?

Those knight heads are from the Bretonnian Knights of the Realm/ Knights Errant current plastic boxed set. I just cut the various animals off of the top, and cut off some ribbons, to make them look more like Templars.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on February 08, 2012, 05:17:58 AM
After a long (~1year+?) hiatus from Warhammer, I am back to work on my army. And it is exciting. Since this is a plog, I hope you can excuse the threadomancy:

The walter is under way. And I have abandoned the sphinx portion:
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09306.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09307.jpg)

Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: VonOttenheim on February 08, 2012, 08:42:12 AM
Now I am excited too.....

Cant wait to see that finished. Looks good so far  :::cheers:::

And...I like the army, the theme and everything. Very nice conversions.  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Darknight on February 08, 2012, 11:28:14 AM
That is a sweet war altar - really big and bulky!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Kirgan on February 08, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
Very nice I like it  :happy:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Zak on February 08, 2012, 02:38:02 PM
 :mellow: ooooh!! looks good so far!!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: DariusZero on February 08, 2012, 02:54:52 PM
Nice, where are the parts coming from?
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: The emperor 111 on February 08, 2012, 05:57:30 PM
Looks like screaming bell bottom ogre bulls pulling it and some. Familiers (?) or animal sprites(?) from. Dryad box .

Sweet work as well Barry as we say in s1 love knights and walter
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Delthos on February 09, 2012, 02:58:09 AM
Looks like screaming bell bottom ogre bulls pulling it and some. Familiers (?) or animal sprites(?) from. Dryad box .

If you are talking about the little Gryphons, those are from the Fortified Manorhouse, Watchtower, and Chapel kits. I also see Space Marine purity seals, modular movement trays, various books and scrolls from Flagellants kit, Laurels from the Greatswords, old style shields, I'm guessing those standards are Vampire Counts, and some other small bits I'm not sure on like the side banners. I believe the icon on the side that is cross with a skull in it is a Terminator Honour, but I'm not positive.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on February 09, 2012, 06:14:44 AM
Thanks for all the good words everybody. Delthos has nailed almost all of the bits (glad that you saw the movement trays). The emperor got the screaming bell bottom. The banners are from chaos warriors. Man, it was fun reading that bit guessing game, so here are some more to guess:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09309.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09311.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09308.jpg)

My alternative to the Golden Griffon (Probably. Also, not yet glued together so it is a bit lop sided.)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09313.jpg)

Just a couple of other pictures that I never posted:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09315.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09314.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09318.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Oxycutor on February 09, 2012, 09:02:16 AM
Nice Standard Bearer!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Silver Wolf on February 09, 2012, 05:26:05 PM
Yes, the standard bearer is really eye-catching.  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on March 17, 2012, 07:44:42 PM
Thanks for the compliments! Any criticism/ tips on how to thin paints are welcome. In pictures I start noticing that my paints are still really thick. Here some new stuff:

Knights panther on foot (greatswords):

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09396.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09395.jpg) (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09394.jpg) (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09397.jpg)

My second horde of 50 halberds. A bit more uniform than the last horde:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09398.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09399.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Your Mother on March 18, 2012, 03:18:25 AM
wow, nice work. Im really liking the barding on the pistoliers. :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: JensDk on March 18, 2012, 09:56:36 AM
Looking great.
I really like the idea of detailing your waralter with tons and tons of stuff, most war-altars end up looking a little under-detailed for my taste, yours seem certainly to steer well clear of that problem =)
If you are interested you should know that you can get cake-pillars that work well as greek-marble pillars for scale for your golden griffon.

I kinda hope the mushroom unitfiller is a joke? It seems a bit ad odds with the rest of your great swords, whom btw,. look awesome with their converted helmets.
I like the idea of a knight as unitfiller in the halbardiers, very invocative and makes fora  more interesting unit =)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on March 20, 2012, 02:48:22 AM
The mushroom is just a base for my life wizard :)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/main.jpg) (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09413.jpg)
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09412.jpg) (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09414.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Quickbeam on March 20, 2012, 03:03:44 AM
 :-o very nice! is that one of those Foundry mushrooms? And where is that wizard from??
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: nuttunen on March 20, 2012, 12:06:08 PM
Most wizards that I've met have been high on mushrooms like that.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Midaski on March 20, 2012, 05:56:52 PM
Very nice ..........


..... some fungi can be smaller and the wizard might find there's not mush room on top ...................     :closed-eyes:

Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Alleton on March 20, 2012, 06:51:39 PM

..... some fungi can be smaller and the wizard might find there's not mush room on top ...................     :closed-eyes:



*Slap*

I'm sorry Midaski...It had to be done. You were out of control :P
Title: Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on April 16, 2012, 03:17:35 AM
A small update on the war alter. My biggest worry with the new release was that I would like the new alter more than the one that I have been building. Well, the new girffon is great, but I prefer my old base to the new one:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09605.jpg) (http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09599.jpg)

Just a close up of the base, I think this is my favorite base that I have made
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09598.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Slavik on April 16, 2012, 04:42:21 PM
Hey, nice to see this blog back in action!  As been said, that BsB guy looks really nice! Really like the banner.
That base lookking very nice as well.


 :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: theforgefather on April 16, 2012, 08:18:49 PM
now thats how a war alter should look!
not the tiny-chariot like old one,  or the double decker bus of a new one.
but best of all, is GW legal!
 :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on April 17, 2012, 04:50:09 AM
Thanks guys! It is coming along, a little bit each day. The top portion will be painted separately. As will the griffon, flags and Arch-Lector.

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09608.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09612.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09614.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09615.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09616.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Zak on April 17, 2012, 12:50:02 PM
 :::cheers::: very nice so far!!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on April 22, 2012, 03:58:47 AM
more wip pictures

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09622.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09623.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09626.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09628.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09629.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09630.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09632.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09634.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09635.jpg)

After the outline the suns are a bit messy, I will have to clean up the red and white fields
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09637-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Darknight on April 22, 2012, 10:55:59 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on April 22, 2012, 09:29:16 PM
Onwards!

Cleaned up the suns a bit
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09639.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09641.jpg)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: King on April 22, 2012, 09:32:07 PM
Very original and much nicer than the new GW war carriage thingy................this radiates the power of sigmar out from it  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: The Ol Perfesser on April 22, 2012, 11:26:15 PM
Nice work on the sun symbols!  That is really coming along nicely! :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: von Mecklenburg on May 31, 2012, 07:18:48 PM
Nice to see such a well-made Crusade! The fluff was interesting too, keep investigating Antiochia  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on August 26, 2012, 04:36:41 PM
At this rate, the walter might get done by mid-2014, but its getting there   :smile2:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC00515.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC00516.jpg)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC00512.jpg)

Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Quickbeam on August 26, 2012, 04:41:34 PM
Looks darn cool  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Gorgash Redfang on August 26, 2012, 11:00:49 PM
Great blog  :eusa_clap:

I just noticed when you were painting the Waltar, Do you undercoat your parts :icon_confused:??????

It looks like you dont as i saw some parts still bare plastic when the rest was painted.

Still a very nice looking army and great fluff...... LOVE it :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on August 27, 2012, 02:31:39 AM
Thanks kindly.

I do undercoat, but I undercoat with gray: http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=35372.msg551644#msg551644

Also the walter was painted in three different stages and then assembled. That's why some parts are gray most likely. (I just set them on one another to mock up for photos) 
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on November 03, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
In progress projects:
-Flags
-Araby spearmen detachment (detachment for 50 halbs)
-General on griffon
-Cavalry part of the army
-Artillery
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/flags-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/flags-1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/spears3-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/spears3-1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/spears-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/spears-1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/spears2-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/spears2-1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/griff-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/griff-1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/cav2-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/cav2-1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/Wissenlanders/artillary-1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/Wissenlanders/artillary-1.png.html)

Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Warhammer-Weib on November 03, 2013, 05:01:07 PM
Great WIP pics, keep up your good work!  :::cheers:::

The banners come out nicely, and I like your colour scheme for the spearmen.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: thundercake on November 05, 2013, 03:45:01 PM
Are those high elves with militia heads on them?
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: arselus on December 02, 2013, 06:24:53 AM
Are those high elves with militia heads on them?

Yes

Knights of the Blazing Sun:

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/DSC09393.jpg) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/DSC09393.jpg.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/kotbs3.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/kotbs3.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/kotbs1.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/kotbs1.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/kotbs2.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/kotbs2.png.html)

(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae217/arselus/kotbs4.png) (http://s973.photobucket.com/user/arselus/media/kotbs4.png.html)
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Zjivago on December 02, 2013, 02:36:49 PM
A unique army, and very well painted, thumbs up!  :biggriin:
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: GamesPoet on December 02, 2013, 04:19:26 PM
Got some seriously good looking stuff going on here! :eusa_clap: :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: lambobolt2 on December 02, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
Looks great!  How did you do your bronze colors, like on the griffon and the knights of the blazing sun?  and what are their helmets?

keep it up, looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: thundercake on December 03, 2013, 04:53:31 PM
I think the helmets are from 40k sanguinary guard, though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: somegeezer on December 03, 2013, 06:30:18 PM
I think the helmets are from 40k sanguinary guard, though I could be wrong.

They are - and they make those knights look bloody terrifying  :::cheers:::
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 03, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
Knights of the blazing sun?!?! are you kidding me?!?!

Those are bronze colored Cybermen!!!!!  You fool, you don't know what you've done!!!!
Title: Re: Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
Post by: Syphon on December 04, 2013, 12:43:42 PM
You gave me a hobby boner. Damn you!